I guess it'll be working fine then
#🎮│game
feral ferry
ornate cedar
Atleast something should notify the user to confirm the enb has injected itself successfully
ornate cedar
You are indoors, which is not known to be good with most ENBs
fading spade
ornate cedar
RTFM? thread locked.
User banned for asking something on the forum.
Nobody ends up knowing what the answer was.
fading spade
tells me to set this to my GPU ram amount
hmm its not working, I get flickering when I run and the water glitches
ornate cedar
Delete the game, to fix any problem
ornate cedar
(by default)
fading spade
`(by default)`
It's a clean install of this mod.... It's not going to different
feral ferry
And they might unveil something Half Life related
fading spade
Oo
feral ferry
Valve's back to making games
fading spade
Yes
ornate cedar
There are some big news
You have found the tea?
fading spade
Half Life: Alyx 2
feral ferry
Half Life Barney
fading spade
Xd
feral ferry
The game we all want
fading spade
Half Life: Combine
feral ferry
Not even kidding there is a cult following for half life barney
ornate cedar
Do you have your passport, gordon?
feral ferry
He's in stasis, mysir..
willow quiver
Half Life Barney
what an absolutely horrible day to remember half life blue shift
fading spade
Oh
I'm using a version that's too new
keen urchin
Valve's back to making games
Or consoles. Gabe hinted at hardware
ornate cedar
Still were able to sell the Index just fine. 🤷♂️
feral ferry
ornate cedar
Im feeling disney was not happy with their sales figures.
exotic knoll
considering getting the wooting 2, does anyone know if it works for controller mode in modern warfare or blackops cold war?
feral ferry
Prolly
fading spade
small comet
why did u instantly buy the gold edition
small comet
at the time?
fading spade
It was on sale
small comet
more than 2 weeks ago?
fringe salmon
march25 has been a while
small comet
gl on that refund
fading spade
I have under the hours played
small comet
so?
fading spade
they allow up to 5 hours
fringe salmon
uhhh
fringe salmon
also it's 2 hours not 5 unless that got changed recently
ripe tendon
depends on if you're lucky enough to get an idgaf rep
fringe salmon
well yeah
small comet
thats why i said gl dane
ripe tendon
haha but yeah march is kind of a while ago
small comet
usually the rule is owned less than 14days AND less than 2hrs playtime
just checked the official site
updated nov 2020
ripe tendon
yeah I was slightly over 14 days for requesting a pubg refund and got denied
womp womp
odd remnant
anyone like geo dash? 🥸
small comet
the fuck is geo dash
fading spade
My cousin was addicted to that game for way too long
fading spade
Geography :')
fading spade
Light is the best new block in 1.17
<3
OOOO You can farm arrows of slowness now using powered snow
The item command replaces the replaceitem command
Thats a hard one to say
feral ferry
Refund window for steam has always been 2 hours
Furthermore
New Battlefield is set in 2042 apparently
fading spade
Future themed Battlefield
Hmmmmmmmmmm
Will it have wall running and double jump like Black Ops 3?
Cause if so, I feel that wont work well with the more slow paced gameplay
feral ferry
No
Nothing overly futuristic
Drones and shit will be there
I think I also heard of exosuits
fading spade
So realistic to what could be possible?
fading spade
Ahh
feral ferry
Not inventing the wheel but taking currently existing experimental stuff
And making it "standard issue"
ornate cedar
Double jump is never possible no matter how technological advanced you are. Unless you count rockets boosters. You need something to push against to jump. 
fading spade
Yepp
ornate cedar
Most significant advancement in conventional infantry combat, will be the replacement of biological soldiers or at least lowering exposure to danger. First steps could be camera as the scope. Which would allow someone to check a corner without exposing the head as well. Makes it also cheaper to make night vision, thermal vision or whatever to be more standard issue. As it can use that camera scope idea. After that, remotely controlled humanoid machines. Dont imagine they would have an AI without human fail-safe to intervene. It could go as far to auto target and get ready to fire. But it will most likely need trained human operators around to make that decision to fire or hold.
orchid prism
Double jump is never possible no matter how technological advanced you are. Unle...
But... I constantly see martial arts people do this 😛
trim rock
DUN DU DU DUN DUN
trim rock
tfw will never get 2143
fallow bronze
that last soldier jumping of the building is gonna smak against the chopper :p
fading spade
Im just saying
If the main characters in BF4 can survive a dam exploding on them and falling through a multistory building that is currently exploding
Then that soldier can survive getting hit with a heli
fallow bronze
Or maybe he gonna jump into it
true 😄
ornate cedar
Eh bro watch yo jet
feral ferry
Release date: October 14th 2021
7 maps at launch
No traditional class system, each specialist will have 2 abilities, which will define roles.
"Welcome to A World Transformed"
"U.S.A. and Russia stand at the brink of war. Proxy wars have waged for decades, generating experienced but displaced combat veterans. These Specialists use their skills to shape the future — a future worth fighting for."
"Battlefield 2042 introduces 7 vast maps for up to 128* players. From Seoul’s cities to Egypt’s deserts, every map offers a unique experience based on the natural environment."
"Customize weapons, gadgets and vehicles in-battle to tip the scales in your favor. Summon a robotic dog built for battle, employ a grappling hook or don your very own wingsuit."
"Choose your role on the battlefield and form hand-tailored squads through the new Specialist system. Based on Battlefield’s four Classes, Specialists have one unique Specialty and Trait – but the rest of the loadout is fully customizable."
Hmm, another U.S vs Russia game
I kinda started to miss those 
fading spade
Oh, those Russians
ornate cedar
Still using ak-47s
fading spade
I was refering to RA RA RASPUTIN but ok then xd
barren pewter
"Welcome to A World Transformed"
"U.S.A. and Russia stand at the brink of war. ...
FFS
back to the futuristic games
fading spade
"Battlefield 2042 introduces 7 vast maps for up to 128* players. From Seoul’s cities to Egypt’s deserts, every map offers a unique experience based on the natural environment."
That isnt unique??
feral ferry
back to the futuristic games
No
wind quest
it's only 21 years
barren pewter
specialists, robot dogs, grappling hooks?
feral ferry
21 years in the future? Nah
feral ferry
specialists, robot dogs, grappling hooks?
All of those already exist
trim rock
Now look at how things were 21 years ago
wind quest
robot dogs are happening right now. it's just current tech a bit better i guess xD
feral ferry
Literally what the new game is, is taking conceptual or experimental tech from our days
barren pewter
All of those already exist
well, yes, but not combat or even mainstream use ready
feral ferry
When aren't you
unborn spruce
About what? @barren pewter
feral ferry
Cause they didn't make another WW1 game
barren pewter
;-;
unborn spruce
Oh well, WW1 battlefield is garbage anyway.
feral ferry
I'm actually glad they are returning to BF3ish battlefield
unborn spruce
Trench combat is only so entertaining, has barely anything in replay value.
fading spade
At least this time there wont be karens triggered by seeing black people in the french army like in BF V
barren pewter
Oh well, WW1 battlefield is garbage anyway.
to be fair, it was actually quite good
feral ferry
At least this time there wont be karens triggered by seeing black people in the ...
That is realistic though
barren pewter
it's BF V that was truly bad
fading spade
That is realistic though
I know!
barren pewter
At least this time there wont be karens triggered by seeing black people in the ...
colonial forces
everyone had them
unborn spruce
@fading spade Mate, the bit that pissed us all off was them claiming historic accuracy and doing that stupid shit.
fading spade
<@361968952592826378> Mate, the bit that pissed us all off was them claiming his...
But its accurate
barren pewter
it is
unborn spruce
No no, the stories.
unborn spruce
They made up, invented, heaps of them.
barren pewter
fair
feral ferry
What pissed me off the most, was reflex and holo sights IN WORLD WAR 2
unborn spruce
Why even?
fading spade
Who tf plays FPS games for historical accuracy?
feral ferry
Who tf plays FPS games for historical accuracy?
Me
unborn spruce
There are literally thousands of amazing stories from that time period. Why not use them?
Like that pissed off polish woman who purchased a tank and joined the army.
fading spade
I get it, for accurate weapons and whatnot
but it doesnt matter for the story IMO
unborn spruce
She was one of the best tank commanders at the time.
fading spade
oo :D
feral ferry
The game should clearly say it's a pseudo-realistic or a fantasy incarnation of our reality
barren pewter
they reinvented the Arditi to match their goals of having a heavy infantry based story
when in reality, they were highly mobile shock troop, mainly fighting with handgrenades and melee weapons
unborn spruce
Her husband got killed so she sold her house, purchased a tank, and donated it to the polish army in exchange for being allowed to command it.
What followed was years of dedicated service and a LOT of kills.
barren pewter
not heavy armour and german MGs 
unborn spruce
Idk why nobody wants to make a game about her. She was utterly legendary.
barren pewter
to be fair, the actual Arditi were seriously cool
unborn spruce
I just want someone to make Battlefield; Toyota War...
feral ferry
Anyways get out of my game lair
barren pewter
who would win:
-Libyan army with modern equipment, airforce and more
-some chads in pickup trucks with milsurp AKs
unborn spruce
Absolutely.
barren pewter
that would legit be the game of the century
unborn spruce
Just the memes of them being the Chadinian forces...
barren pewter
you have two totally different styles of play right there
feral ferry
Chads vs libtards?
Anyways battlecunt 2077 reveal starting in 40 mins
PAYDAY 3
Official reveal in Koch Media conference during E3
barren pewter
👀
payday 3
tbh, payday 2 was awesome, but after my ultimate edition, with ALL DLC stopped getting... all the DLC coming out, I lost interest
fringe salmon
well I know someone who will like that game 
fringe salmon
a friend
feral ferry
Who?
feral ferry
Ah okei. But who?
barren pewter
3k hours
fringe salmon
why does it matter lol, friend of mine who likes the game
unborn spruce
Plot twist, it’s just his 4th alt account.
feral ferry
why does it matter lol, friend of mine who likes the game
But who though
fringe salmon
nah im at
unborn spruce
You mean 3473 hours? 
fringe salmon
no 😛
unborn spruce
Could never get into Payday.
fringe salmon
yea
barren pewter
seriously
the best missions in GTA online require at least 2 players, most require 4
fading spade
barren pewter
weak
fading spade
:P
barren pewter
cyberpunk is my most played game on steam atm
126.5 hours
coulda sworn I've played fallout new vegas at least twice as long already
bleak pike
Anyways battlecunt 2077 reveal starting in 40 mins
Wot
fallow bronze
you.. you shower?
ornate cedar
What is that?
fallow bronze
well i know what it is , but i wasnt sure Callum did
barren pewter
What is that?
some western concept designed to fill the pockets of the rich
we don't do that here
ornate cedar
trim rock
Battlefield Livestream: Countdown to Reveal Trailer
Watch it just be a countdown stream
Counting down to EA event or whatevs
slim token
it does say countdown on the title, so no
barren pewter
bleak pike
it does say countdown on the title, so no
Well ye but the YouTube link itself had a countdown xD
slim token
understandable, have a nice trailer
barren pewter
barren pewter
slim token
when the teaser is longer than the full trailer
feral ferry
Tbh E3 is just around the corner
bleak pike
Ofc there are secret messages etc in the countdown
feral ferry
Ofc there are secret messages etc in the countdown
Succ dicc pls for money thx ,- EA
barren pewter
feral ferry
I'd suck a dick for money not even going to lie
I'm a poor ass student hoe with no cash
bleak pike
Depends how much
feral ferry
About a grand would be fine
slim token
people saying use 2X speed on the countdown he
feral ferry
people saying use 2X speed on the countdown he
Yeah that doesn't work like that
slim token
Yeah that doesn't work like that
yeah no shit
feral ferry
Oh shit it does
slim token
stream lag
barren pewter
people saying use 2X speed on the countdown he
these kids growin' up in the internet age
feral ferry
Are retarded
barren pewter
you said it, not me
feral ferry
Meh I am retarded so
slim token
while i wait, it's cephalopod time
bleak pike
The position of the right car disturbs me
barren pewter
shittiest cop ever
fallow bronze
its blocking the road
barren pewter
should have shot that guy
in the back of the neck
no need to pull him over at all /s
(that was a joke about american cops)
fading spade
I got a map free a while ago
I just opened it up and THE VOICE ACTING IS HILARIOUS
fallow bronze
minecraft bedrock is a strange place
fading spade
Yes
I wish there was a way to preview a map before buying it
cause you cant get refunds if the map is shit
fallow bronze
youtube i guess
fading spade
yeah maybe
ornate cedar
Spas-12 it looks like
fading spade
I meant I knew what would happen in the video
feral ferry
Nice gj proud of you
fading spade
ornate cedar
feral ferry
Hoe-kay
The what
The shit is this copy
I literally went to Battlefield stream, "share" and "copy"
This is the link?
I am confused
ornate cedar
feral ferry
I am confused with how I actually copied that mess of a text
Eh some questions don't need to be answered I guess
Last minutes
@barren pewter 30 sexs
Watch you cunt
ornate cedar
offering sex huh
barren pewter
Watch you cunt <:lul:576475280303063096>
no
ornate cedar
fortnite
feral ferry
JESUS CHRIST THE AUDIO
slim token
that guy got fucked
ornate cedar
Noobs
slim token
fighting in the icecaps lmaoo
ornate cedar
Just nuke your enemy bro
slim token
what the actual fuck was that plane thing
ornate cedar
Who needs air-to-air missiles when you can use a missle laucher
feral ferry
Knew it, Jun 13 gameplay
slim token
you smell that
fallow bronze
haha the rendezook
ornate cedar
10>km action range? eh who needs that
slim token
the memes
feral ferry
E3 time
slim token
they are being born
feral ferry
But yeah natural disasters, sick
feral ferry
Thag jet moment
Made no fucking sense but is fucking cool
fallow bronze
what yes ofcourse it is
trim rock
I know that reference!
feral ferry
That is literally a throwback to BF3-4 era
bleak pike
Because its such a Battlefield thing
fallow bronze
and it is something that you can do
bleak pike
Ye
feral ferry
The jet looked kinda similar to F-35
fallow bronze
ingame rendered footage
bleak pike
Anyway fun trailer but I don't like rendered trailers much
fallow bronze
it looked amazing though
ornate cedar
Technology has regressed quite somewhat compared to today i see
fallow bronze
lets wait for the real gameplay trailer
feral ferry
Jun13 is only 4 days away
trim rock
The digital Battlefield 2042 Gold Edition contains:
Early access to game launch Year 1 Pass: 4 New Specialists (1 per Season), 4 Battle Passes (1 per Season), and 3 Epic Skin Bundles (”Blistered Earth”, ”Tempest”, and ”Cold Blood”)
Yay battle passes
ornate cedar
yay nothing of value
ornate cedar
ornate cedar
p2keepplayingsomewhat
barren pewter
I'd happily pay for a gold edition if it came with all the content
bleak pike
Less content more expensive garbage that used to be part of the game
barren pewter
usually it's game plus all DLC in a gold edition
and the ultimate edition is the same thing, plus cosmetics and bonuses
ornate cedar
untill they expire again
barren pewter
🙄
feral ferry
You people lost the plot
feral ferry
and the ultimate edition is the same thing, plus cosmetics and bonuses
This applies to normal games
feral ferry
Live services work completely differently to normal game
ornate cedar
So a keep paying for the same product, give money
feral ferry
- Seasons come with game updates
- New season, new game pass, new cosmetics, one new operator
barren pewter
sounds like R6S
feral ferry
That's how it is in most of these games
barren pewter
🙄
feral ferry
Only one that doesn't do that is Destiny with its DLCs
ornate cedar
EA is going to be ea and take em all back again when your accesspass expires
barren pewter
why not just have 4 classes, plus vehicles, new maps, new weapons, new cosmetics being added with each major update
feral ferry
Furthermore, it was already leaked that GAME SHIPS WITH 7 INITIAL MAPS
feral ferry
Rest to be added with updates
barren pewter
Furthermore, it was already leaked that GAME SHIPS WITH 7 INITIAL MAPS
ok, that isn't as good as BF 1
still not bad
feral ferry
why not just have 4 classes, plus vehicles, new maps, new weapons, new cosmetics...
Longevity
You put too much, balance goes through the window
Also you run out of stuff to put in the game
ornate cedar
Buy a new car *engine not included, and 3 wheels, and the frame.
barren pewter
Buy a new car *engine not included, and 3 wheels, and the frame.
and the steering wheel is a paid add-on
same with the ignition system
feral ferry
Buy a new car *engine not included, and 3 wheels, and the frame.
Doesn't make any sense when it comes to this context
ornate cedar
You get what you get and the rest are cosmetic
feral ferry
That, again, is not really how this works
barren pewter
still, paying for content, year by year, ain't right
if I buy the gold edition, I expect all DLC content unlocked when it launches
feral ferry
Before you would ship a game, get a cash influx, and the game would die off and be unprofitable so you kill the servers
Now it's long term support
barren pewter
🙄
feral ferry
Add in incremental updates for long time cash influx
barren pewter
make a game good enough to constantly get new players
ornate cedar
community servers are a thing
EA will kill it anyway if it aint profitable like most games they pushed with the model
feral ferry
Don't think you can't play Star Wars Battlefront 2
Profitable? Not really
Still works though
feral ferry
at least with R6S, the paid stuff was cosmetic only
Nah you can pay for the ops
But nobody really does that
barren pewter
exactly
the important shit is not pay to win, or even pay to play, beyond the base game
ornate cedar
More profitable than the other games it can run on the server. When the contracts are up, does support get dropped or extended
barren pewter
but people pay for the cosmetics, and R6S is still making money for Ubi
feral ferry
Anyways the game is supposedly coming to Game Pass
So that's good
Also HOPEFULLY if they slap an entry tag on the game, they can make it actually Pay2Play
And not Pay2Win
FreetoPlay is cancer
Unless properly executed
ornate cedar
Knowing EA aint gonna happen
feral ferry
Ehhh
feral ferry
There exists EA before 2020 and post 2020 EA
I have a tiny amount of hopes for EA
They are starting to give devs freedom
The SP Star wars game
Squadrons
feral ferry
No
barren pewter
I'm gonna treat this the same as starfield
verdict will be passed after I play it
till then, I don't expect anything
feral ferry
K sure whatever
feral ferry
Buy game pass when the game is announced
barren pewter
like any normal person
feral ferry
Actually
ornate cedar
ornate cedar
Que whining its not fair
feral ferry
fading spade
I bet I wont have disk space for this :')
ornate cedar
144p small text
ornate cedar
Unless you get ripped off
feral ferry
Anyways this kinda confirms the "cosmetics only" thing
fallow bronze
one thing i also noticed, there were a LOT of soldiers in all the shots
ornate cedar
And getting ambushed constantly
trim rock
Well yeah cause 128 players
remote yoke
Battleroyalefield 2042: Siege of Duty
make sure to purchase your season passes, battle passes, game passes, ass passes if you want more than 7 maps!
wind quest
i don't think they will split the player base with maps again. like BF4 and such. i guess the year 1 pass is maybe weapons or characters
ah yea
Year 1 Pass: 4 New Specialists (1 per Season), 4 Battle Passes (1 per Season), and 3 Epic Skin Bundles (”Blistered Earth”, ”Tempest”, and ”Cold Blood”)
remote yoke
EPIC
SKIN
BUNDLES
trim rock
Why not just only have epic skins, like who's ever gonna use common or uncommon trash skins
barren pewter
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1517290
vexxy
I'm hype
but if they start selling multiple passes instead of one for all the DLC, fuck no
wait
year one pass
they are
ffs
remote yoke
yeah boy
barren pewter
these thundercunts
remote yoke
get yer year 2 pass, year 3, and after all of them it MIGHT have almost as much content as games used to have on day 1!
barren pewter
I'll just do what I do with most shooter games nowadays
skip em and play bioshock 2's multiplayer mode (which they omitted from the remaster for whatever reason) instead
remote yoke
how will you live without battle passes?!!!
barren pewter
I do already
besides, shit's nothing but skins
I'll pay for more maps, gear and guns, at the rate of 50 bucks max for a pass with ALL DLC on an 80 dollar game
remote yoke
I'll stick to paying $60 or less and getting a lot more content on day 1 plus free added content over time
barren pewter
yep
for fallout 4, I bought the game for $80 including DLC
if $80 is just enough to get my foot in the door and get shafted when the first content update comes out, fuck no
I'll just wait till I can buy the game with ALL THE DLC for a reasonable price
which is $120 CAD or less
hell, every triple A game sells for $120 CAD at most including DLC at launch
so spending any more than that is highway robbery
feral ferry
Why not just only have epic skins, like who's ever gonna use common or uncommon ...
Me
feral ferry
these thundercunts
Normal practice nowadays
feral ferry
I'll stick to paying $60 or less and getting a lot more content on day 1 plus fr...
And that's how it should be done
barren pewter
Normal practice nowadays
and I don't support it
feral ferry
And nobody cares
feral ferry
The fuck are you talking about
It's hard to explain to you how it will actually work since we don't know the monetization strategy but judging by what is said
- Base game, you get access to playing the game
- Year passes. You get the new operators, bunch of exclusive cosmetics and battle pass access
- Battle pass access. Your typical battle pass
Operators can be purchased or EARNED
Like they always have been
trim rock
I expect something like BFV
remote yoke
Sidorovich, would you please explain to me what a battle pass is?
feral ferry
There is no fucking caveat as to why you wouldn't pay here
Maps and weapons come AS FREE UPDATES
CAUSE LIVE SERVICE
barren pewter
Maps and weapons come AS FREE UPDATES
so, the only thing the passes offer are cosmetics?
barren pewter
inb4 "most likely yes" becomes "most definitely not"
feral ferry
But nothing exclusive
I sincerely doubt they will sell guns
Obviously they might
But they won't sell what can't be earned
Or you just end up losing on a massive player population who are die hard against p2w
barren pewter
look mate, I'm fine paying for post launch content
in one bundle
$50 max
not "year passes"
barren pewter
I sure hope so
barren pewter
Sidorovich, would you please explain to me what a battle pass is?
pay for access, play to "level up" pass
unlocking levels usually unlocks cosmetics, but could be used to paywall in-game bonuses
barren pewter
I just hope it doesn't turn into this
wind quest
It will be a Siege like system most likely. you will have all content, grind for specialists or buy them, battle passes for some exclusive cosmetics. and grind or buy the other cosmetics.
which is fine i think
wind quest
could be
feral ferry
It will be a Siege like system most likely. you will have all content, grind for...
Siege system is great
feral ferry
Specialists are probably just like cod
And no
Specialists have their own abilities
Game launches with 4 specialists with 2 unique abilities each
wind quest
but i think there COULD be a system for specialists with abilities. like a radar guy, like UAV in his backpack. with a cooldown, drone guy, squirrelfly guy
feral ferry
They haven't properly showcased terraforming and destruction
bleak pike
Ye but j mean
wind quest
on top of the recon, support, assault and medic
barren pewter
Siege system is great
it's a proven system as well, so why would EA not want to use it?
bleak pike
Skins for each specialist class
feral ferry
it's a proven system as well, so why would EA not want to use it?
I got no clue why did you add the question to the end, but first part, yeah
A great system in fact
wind quest
hmm yea, that is an odd one indeed. how will a specialist work for the classes
feral ferry
Earns money, and doesn't break balance
barren pewter
hmm yea, that is an odd one indeed. how will a specialist work for the classes
classes and subclasses? like specializing in vehicle maintenance and use or ammo resupply and SAW use for support?
feral ferry
Unless you add camouflage skins
feral ferry
Yeah you are wrong
Sorry but you are wrong
I don't even play that much, I have a shit ton of creds saved up for multiple seasons ahead
Anyways
Battlefield 2042 in Game Pass basically confirmed
wind quest
Play religiously or pay
they did 'fix' it by making older operators cheaper over the seasons. there is a lot of content to catch up to if you havent played in a while. i agree
bleak pike
25 hours
feral ferry
Microsoft eh?
wind quest
Battlefield 2042 in Game Pass basically confirmed
oooh nice. steam too
feral ferry
Did BF3 and 4 have MTXs?
feral ferry
I feel like it'll be the same thing as those games
bleak pike
How is 12-25 hours per operator OK?
wind quest
I wonder if BF 2042 will support NVIdia Reflex and DLSS
should be
feral ferry
How is 12-25 hours per operator OK?
12-25 hours of grind to get an operator?
That is perfectly ok
Cause you have 3 MONTHS to grind out 25 hours
wind quest
xD
feral ferry
Sometimes even more
wind quest
it is a lot of time tho
barren pewter
ye
feral ferry
Much bad
barren pewter
still way too much imo
bleak pike
Holy fuck
barren pewter
should be about half that
feral ferry
still way too much imo
Siege has one of the friendliest grind systems that exists
Can't complain at all
bleak pike
This implies you aren't a casual player
barren pewter
casuals in R6S is a no go
feral ferry
I mean, I got literally every operator in the game
wind quest
some people, which i am not a part of, don't have much free time. and for them to play a game like that 'casually' it's almost impossible to start playing now and get all operators.
but again, you really don't need all operators.
barren pewter
that game is so toxic in my experience
wind quest
the older ops are so much cheaper now tho
feral ferry
Per season just in 2 operators
1
barren pewter
I remember using my renown to buy Jager, and when that op was taken and I had to play recruit
bleak pike
I said max
barren pewter
my team killed me
bleak pike
Based on your comment
barren pewter
each and every round
bleak pike
This also implies you already have every operator
feral ferry
Again what @wind quest said, old operators get cheap
bleak pike
Which you don't
bleak pike
It's a lot of grind or just pay up
feral ferry
Y3 20k
wind quest
I remember using my renown to buy Jager, and when that op was taken and I had to...
oof, that hurts. but now the deluxe edition i believe. gets you all the basic ops
feral ferry
Y4-current 25k
feral ferry
IT IS NOT
bleak pike
You dense mother fucker
feral ferry
The fuck are you talking about
wind quest
lol
feral ferry
Go play the fucking game first
wind quest
fight fight fight
barren pewter
oof, that hurts. but now the deluxe edition i believe. gets you all the basic op...
it wasn't having to play recruit
bleak pike
Tell me how long it takes to unlock every operator
small comet
Go play the fucking game first
do i need to play more than 2hrs to get a new op?
fringe salmon
barren pewter
it was my team killing me for only being able to do that
wind quest
it wasn't having to play recruit
when?
bleak pike
For someone who has every operator and has to deal with 1 per season
Sure 25 hours might not be a lot for you
But for someone who doesn't play religiously who has to unlock multiple years worth also
barren pewter
For someone who has every operator and has to deal with 1 per season
a lot of them are throwaway
wind quest
this was forever ago, on my xbox
yea, if you bought it in the last year or so you will get all basic ops or like 4 from year 1. depends on the editions. which are a real clusterfuck
barren pewter
and recruit is perfectly servicable anyway
wind quest
you don't need to own every operator
barren pewter
still, way too fucking much for what you get
wind quest
if you have like 4 operators, you will really be fine
fringe salmon
if you don't play a lot, do you plan on changing operator every single game and thats why you need all of them after 2 hours?
wind quest
and you can enjoy the game
feral ferry
if you have like 4 operators, you will really be fine
This
A lot of the ops aren't even meta anymore
Or never have been
barren pewter
glaz, for example
bleak pike
I'm saying the grind is to much I'm not saying it shouldn't exist
wind quest
a lot of the basic ops are even really viable options
barren pewter
great early on
bleak pike
It's designed to pressure people into laying for the passes
barren pewter
but now...lol nope
feral ferry
What passes
barren pewter
straight up replaced with kali
feral ferry
Kali sucks
bleak pike
Not pass
wind quest
sure, but it's almost a f2p game right now, with the game price at like 5 bucks
feral ferry
Glaz > Kali
barren pewter
Kali sucks
glaz more so
bleak pike
Year pass things
barren pewter
wait
feral ferry
He's actually good
wind quest
they need to pay for the content somehow tho 😛
bleak pike
they need to pay for the content somehow tho 😛
I hate this argument
It's fucking delusional
feral ferry
Callum doesn't like playing games
go figures
He likes paying for shitty Destiny 2 DLCs
feral ferry
Not the DLCs though
fringe salmon
I'm a bit confused how you need all 60 operators, when you say you dont play a lot, so you don't even have the actual time to play all even once
feral ferry
You don't, and they aren't hard to grind
feral ferry
I mean it's cool to have all of them
wind quest
sure
feral ferry
Sometimes you just want to go memeing with cav
barren pewter
Sometimes you just want to go memeing with cav
go memeing with mr mounted LMG
unless they ruined that as well
feral ferry
Mounted lmg is dead
wind quest
go memeing with mr mounted LMG
no mounted lmg anymore
barren pewter
feral ferry
Now it's a SHOULDER MOUNTED LMG
bleak pike
It's pure greed not "they gotta make money somehow" hur hur
small comet
said the destiny nerd
wind quest
well, i don't mean to be offensive :), but if you have a studio full of people and you sell a game like baguettes. for 5 dollars. how will you pay for the new content. they do have a lot in reserve. but yea
small comet
imagine not liking the game
bleak pike
They made fucking $150k in 24 hours on a single emote
small comet
and then seeing the stuff a destiny fan calls grind
bleak pike
Yet they beg for money
wind quest
They made fucking $150k in 24 hours on a single emote
?
bleak pike
And constantly nerf people who grind in game for their cash market shit
bleak pike
well, i don't mean to be offensive :), but if you have a studio full of people a...
Lmao you think the devs get the money?
And you think they make peanuts?
🤣🤣🤣🤣
wind quest
well, they need to be paid yes. development costs a lot of money and people
they don't work for free no
small comet
ya but they get like
fringe salmon
could they sustain R6S with less monetization? yes absolutely
could they continue on expanding so future updates get better without it? not really
could they expand+ have money to do other projects to fund so we could get another cool game maybe? 100% not
small comet
the small crumbs falling of the cake
fringe salmon
the income is not to sustain a game without growth
bleak pike
Devs don't get any of the money
wind quest
which game gets as much content 6 years from release?
small comet
sallery is money
wind quest
but salary isn't free?
bleak pike
Omfg
small comet
unless u meant the similarly named vegetable
bleak pike
The amount of money ubisoft get their sallery is pennies
small comet
seleri
bleak pike
You don't support devs
wind quest
haha
fringe salmon
adding more people to a project so more content can get also isn't free
small comet
but celery is
feral ferry
Sometimes with good sales performance employees get rewarded with bonuses
small comet
almost
wind quest
of course not. but a game costs money to develop, to test, everything. sure they keep like 80% for the company.
fringe salmon
Is this a crusade against ubisoft now? thats a bit weird since they are one of the best big studios when it comes to paying their devs
small comet
Sometimes with good sales performance employees get rewarded with bonuses
ya got a new porsche from my employer
feral ferry
Cool story bob
bleak pike
But it's not enough
They want every single person spending money to skip grind or shit like skins which is a clear physiological choice
Worded that poorly
wind quest
mtx is a bad industry. i agree, but having the option to OR grind OR pay is already great
bleak pike
Nothing is done because "we need the money" it's pure evil greed going above and beyond
fringe salmon
well of course they would prefer people spending money, nobody argued against that, but compared to most other big options it's is a lot easier to get things without paying for them
bleak pike
$440m
From siege in 2018
And what did thst get you?
Few operators
A map or two?
Greed and nothing else
A system designed to pressure people into paying money to skip the grind
fringe salmon
erm, did you ever consider breaking down how much that actually ends up to if you were to pay all of that as salary to the devs?
fringe salmon
and suddenly realise it's not actually a lot leftover for "greed"
bleak pike
Lool
How can you be so delusional
You're a dev
And you are OK with these companies?
wind quest
maybe you don't enjoy the game, but a lot of people do. they try to improve the game every season. but I haven't seen a game that has been supported this long and don't see any stop to it quite soon
fringe salmon
I literally just asked you if you broke down how much that would be per dev on it
barren pewter
how many people work on R6S, I bet it's a few dozen at most rn
wind quest
no marketing and such
fringe salmon
dev cost is not including salary usually when that term is used
small comet
u realize they prob have at least 100 people working on it just programming wise prob
bleak pike
The game has made $1.1 billion alone apparently on sales
small comet
and another 100 designers prob
wind quest
but fair question, how would you keep money flowing in if you were to be made ceo?
fringe salmon
ok but total numbers are saying absolutely nothing, if a 1 million game has 1 million devs, they would make shit all
and if R6 had 150 people working on it during development of the first version
wind quest
big companies need to become bigger. rich people become richer. sure
small comet
i mean id reasonably assume ubi to have 200-250 people working on r6s
fringe salmon
that number is a lot higher by now
small comet
with at least 2-3k per month salary
fringe salmon
ok and how many are on it now
if you dont know how many people are working on it or at least a somewhat accurate estimate, how are you supposed to know if the money they make is more than they need or not
small comet
also doesnt r6s run their own server hardware?
wind quest
200-250 people in total it says 3 years ago
bleak pike
I'm not saying irs cheap to make a game I'm just saying the practice is out of greed
Not to "keep the lights on" or "earn something for their work"
fringe salmon
how can you say greed when you dont know if 50% or 99% of the income are needed to cover salaries?
wind quest
but your company should keep healthy and needs money for future projects and experiments too
small comet
na u dont need money to start a new game development project
just pay it with the first sale of the game
wind quest
oh
ornate cedar
Salaries are notoriously bad for game development.
wind quest
can't we get an ubisoft dev invited over here for a Q&A xD
bleak pike
Can almost gurentee the profits are insane
wind quest
oh yea
bleak pike
That's the point
wind quest
70 million unique players/sales in 2020
ornate cedar
Except CEOs and high ranking staff. Which get bonusses no matter what
fringe salmon
no because unlike EA ubisoft is paying well and probably in my top3 places I wanna work at
im not saying they dont want to make money
small comet
Can almost gurentee the profits are insane
u do realize that big companies like ubi, ea etc publish full earnings reports which do list expenses for r&d etc
right?
wind quest
there was that whole sexist and abusing environment at ubi tho
bleak pike
You mean the same ubisoft that has a hostile environment?
small comet
its no mystery how much they make and expense
fringe salmon
you mean the same ubisoft that has a studios near me that I visited and know people that work there? yes
ornate cedar
Ah just fire a few people and give them generous severence packages and a new position in another daughter company
fringe salmon
not saying they are perfect or anything, but just throwing a big number in the room without context when they also have big costs, just isn't helping making a good point
yes 440million is a lot, I would be lazy as fuck if I had even a fraction of it
but they are not going to 1 person alone
wind quest
not sure if this is correct
small comet
looks to checkout with their earnings report
fringe salmon
probably accurate since they are a publicly traded company so would be weird to not just use earnings report numbers
small comet
the net income before any expense was 2.2bil in 2020-21
the heavily invest on r&d and selling product
and as quin said
wind quest
damn
small comet
we know exactly how much such big companies make in net profit
so saying devs dont get anything is just plain wrong
like no one said their selling tactics or recycled games are good business practice or great for the consumer
but it works as we can see
wind quest
the recylced games, are coming to an end. luckily. there was a high dev-manager person who made all the decisions for the games. like the tower-systems, no female characters as protaganist (because this doesn't 'sell').
so i guess after like 2 years we will get the new generation ubi games
with new systems
ornate cedar
Having a monopoly on oil production is not good for the consumers but exorbitantly good for business.
fringe salmon
personally im just excited about them releasing snowdrop to the public potentially soon
ornate cedar
Riders on the sun 😎
wind quest
it's basically steep 2 with bikes
small comet
also doesnt bungie have the issue that their game is now self published
they dont have parent company actibliz anymore to pump in millions for dev etc
wind quest
dont know actually
small comet
psure bungie took it from actibliz in 2019
wind quest
i do know actibliz got like 90% of their revenue from candy crush
wind quest
psure bungie took it from actibliz in 2019
ah cool, is that a good thing tho?
feral ferry
also doesnt bungie have the issue that their game is now self published
I mean bungie paid their freedom off yeah
And what changed? Nothing
Game's still shit
feral ferry
With the amount of DLCs they have been pumping out
I guess finances ain't no problem for them
wind quest
ah yea
feral ferry
Literally Destiny but better
wind quest
but
feral ferry
And actually free to play
wind quest
you get all the content if you buy it?
ornate cedar
And has a self-consciousness
feral ferry
you get all the content if you buy it?
No
small comet
Game's still shit <:lul:576475280303063096>
ya cause now they have to pay for everything
wind quest
ooh
small comet
ah cool, is that a good thing tho?
nope
feral ferry
Forsaken Shadowkeep Beyond Light are full price DLCs
Like 30$ a piece iirc
Jesus christ 69.99
wind quest
ooh damn
small comet
no an exapnsion
ornate cedar
They even disabled some feature because someone was spending too much money for their liking. (warframe)
small comet
tbf wow is the worst offender with this
feral ferry
They even disabled some feature because someone was spending too much money for ...
That's old WF
Warframe nowadays is falling off
ornate cedar
rip
wind quest
actiblizz is the number 1 of milking their customers imo
feral ferry
rip
Too many censorship issues
Can't say this or banned, can't say that
Game updates are grind grind grind and more grind
wind quest
Sims is worse hahah with the expansions
small comet
actiblizz is the number 1 of milking their customers imo
u mean the number1 in out of season april fools jokes
ornate cedar
Trying to appeal to china too much?
feral ferry
Trying to appeal to china too much?
Ah yeah they are doing that China thing
ornate cedar
Anything that is China edition tell you how cringe their censors are
small comet
no pfsense router could ever hope to be so good as the great firewall
slim token
reminds me of ubisoft trying to delete skulls in siege to make it into the chinese market
wind quest
haha yea lol
ornate cedar
Losing their entire playerbase instead
small comet
why worry about hundreds of millions if u have the prospect of billions
feral ferry
They don't need skull and bones in games
They teach those in Uyghur castration camps
So yeah China got you covered
wind quest
but wow china edition. literally all meat is replaced with bread. dungeon full of bread. skeletons are removed. no showing bones on zombies, so just pale humans. a lot more which are so lazily done too
wind quest
They don't need skull and bones in games
so the game skull and bones will also not be released in china 😉
feral ferry
Nop
ornate cedar
Chinese censorship laws are weird sometimes
wind quest
yea
ornate cedar
red blood is forbidden, any other colour is fine
wind quest
oh yea that was a thing too
ornate cedar
Anything religious or vaguely reminiscent of it also banned. Which is why skulls gets banned
wind quest
wow
ornate cedar
Cant have that cult of personality if you already believe in another
ornate cedar
Its also forbidden to mention suicide. cant have them getting any ideas now. can we. The nets can hold so many people
wind quest
oof. yea, and the worst: tiananmen square. nothing happened there...
ornate cedar
Ironically most commonly known for how much it is censored
ornate cedar
Also anything vaguely sexual is banned
wind quest
I jumped into a rabbit hole last week. a pro-china subreddit I found didn't have any downvote buttons, you get banned within a minute of mentioning something 'censored'
ornate cedar
If you are not with us you must be then against us. 