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lol
working on a s15 livery rn still not 100%
@little cape
šØ"Almost all" of Bungie didnāt know Destiny 2 was ending active development until it was announced yesterday, per @PaulTassi
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Delightful management
Not ok wtf
Best way to demoralize people
Either the one leaving or the one staying
I am not an expert in economy but I dont understand sony bought bungie for like 3 billions
I dont understand how they woulnt have 100 or 200 millions to create a destiny 3?
Blame sony
It is like someone buying a ferrari and not using the car because gazoline is too expensive
Ever since Nishino took over SIE after Jim Ryan, management turned into mismanagement 
Sony has huge dreams about live-service, but if it's not immediately as big as Fortnite, it's a failure 
at the meantime they need to understand that coming out with a good live service game take time
marathon I am sure has not been tested at all
no way given how difficult the game is
you almost cannot do some quest in solo
they should have taken at least until the end of the year and tested it in open beta
but sony probably wanted the game out as fast as possible
it doesnt work that way irl
jim ryan is the guy who fucked sony in the first place with his 12 ls game plan
then noone wouldve bought it
<@&1098943457654997093> someone wants a ban
Why am I not surprised.
The condition for bungie to stay independent under Sony was to be highly profitable, Sony wouldāve probably put more money in if they were given the option to have more input into the company
So now I assume they will absorb most of not all the people there into other projects is my guess
seems like a move to kill morale and have a bunch of people quit by themselves, so they dont have to fire them and possibly pay out severance packeges n shit
I wonder if they'll eventually remake the core campaign of Destiny 1/2 as a series of single player games? PlayStation exclusive while we're at it.
Bungie had $1.2B set aside in the acq for employee retention and they still laid off several hundreds to keep profitability afloat to stave off control being taken over by sony long enough for the stock to vest, so this isnāt just Sony being stingy
Apparently they had pitched for Xivu Arath stuff but it got shut downā¦..all that cool lore built over the years just not continuing https://fxtwitter.com/destinybulletn/status/2057806940961374220
šØFormer Destiny 2 senior narrative designer Robert Brookes says a proper Xivu Arath campaign and raid were pitched multiple times for Destiny 2:
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ļøļø"You'd be surprised how many times this was pitched for D2" - thegamepost.com/former-destiny-2-dev-xivu-arath-campaign-raid-pitched-multiple-times-destiny-3/
theyve not made a cent of profit in years. idk its not surprising its going downhill
Yeah itās been years of bad decision and burning through cash
If they had not insisted on retaining independence thereās a chance it wouldāve worked out much better, though not guaranteed of course
hindsight is 20/20
Yeah it might also not have changed anything and people wouldāve blame the takeover
why?
This stuff makes me feel so fortunate that both of the live services i play are run well and arent completely mismanaged
ok I have now 120 hours in marathon
I think this game is not bad but not good either
I hope they bring new things soon
For Honor and Siege

guys did you know that alan wake 2 is not on steam
they do that to force people to go to epic
I prefer not playing the game than going to epic shit
Ok
I do not respect ubisoft
I think the craziest part is how Bungie fragmented their own player base
The Destiny players are more than likely never ever going to touch Marathon because it caused the game to die
I'm not shocked, this has been said before.
Hell even dmg went on a rant about it when he left for that year
Idk if you saw but people wanna hop on D2 on June 9th to show Bungie that they chose the wrong game
It's annoying because Xivu Arath and Savathun are cool
I saw that too but that's not gonna do shit
This is obviously Sony
I think itās more of a āyou dug your own graveā kind of deal
We like to joke in my friend group that the game started to die because one of my friendās got the Euphony
And then we all stopped playing the next day
Marathon didnāt kill d2 it was a attempt to keep bungies independence while they couldnāt manage to make destiny profitable
cz most wouldve already played it enough to not buy it. the free week before release already hampered sales greatly. but it made it so that people who woulda bought, quit quickly and then leave a negative review, didnt get to
Extraction games are such a niche, it confuses me every time they chose such a game for their big bet
idk about niche seeing how big tarkov was and all other serious entries did kinda well as well even aside arc raiders insane popularity
I feel like if you want to make a live service today you either need unlimited money you can inject until it gets enough players to sustain itself/is good/done (fortnite, deadlock, poe 2, soulframe, overwatch) and/or you need to keep the initial release as cheap and small but good as possible so you dont need a massive amount of players to sustain your game
you just need to make a good game that people want to play. everything else is either fluff or what you need when youre incompetent
Arc raiders is very recent example, when they started development on marathon all theyās have to look at would be tarkov and maybe like dark and darker
Not even really true, you just need enough runway to make it good over time
the whole idea of taking the name of a 40yo ip and then use it to make smth it wasnt.. in my mind it was gonna be a huge failure from the start even before we saw a single png about the game
Eh i could see a world where it was successful
it already starts at an obviously idiotic position of abusing a name to gain popularity for something completely different. i have 0 faith in smth like that because its an obvious disingenuous attempt of extracting money from people based on IP
it could but i find it unlikely
I dont think that idea is it at all
Most people that play marathon now probably never heard of the originals
whats that have to do with the original idea. theres literally no other reason to use an old IP other than name recognition
Apparently I'm playing the stupid idiot international version of Gothic
marathon clearly wasnt conceived from a place of wanting to make a great product. it was conceived and produced in what corpos think is a way to make money in the gaming industry. you take an old ip and you take whats currently the fotm
and it didnt pan out
I dont think it was that cynical
The reason it didnt pan out was cause aaa has the idea that you can spend unlimited money on something and get unlimited money times 5 out of it
thats part of it as well
They are too stuck in their ways and dont look at the fact that they have to support their game for 5 years+ even if not that many people play it
Word of mouth is the strongest kind of marketing and even if your live service game only has say 5000 players, if they are all happy and the game is good, you will attract new customers over time
You just need to have enough time to get to that point
Thats why i said, if you want to make something big from the beginning you need unlimited money like valve, riot, epic etc all have
well youre also always competing vs all other live service games. so you could have all the time in the world, your game needs to compete for peoples time vs the best ls games there are. and that includes games from other genres as well
Lots of medium to small bets is better than one big bet in live service
also you used the biggest ones as examples that mostly made good games from the getgo and didnt need to struggle in limbo to improve the game
and even they straight up trashed games that didnt do well
Yes but they all had ages to develop their game
And a guarantee that they could support those games for over 2 years even if they werent a big hit right away
epic abandoned paragon and unreal tournament after fn, valve abandoned underlords and artifact, riot abandoned their card game and what ever else im not thinking of
But yeah, as long as the core of the game is good, it doesnāt really matter how big it is, as long as the game is so good that your players will return with every update
None of those games were as big bets as marathon
You dont wanna go all in on your live service
has bungie ever done anything that wasnt mp/live service
Dunno
because during the free week before the launch the game was not ready at all
But yeah the writing was on the wall for d2 even years ago
right. in the 2 days they massively changed the game for the better for launch
And they should have put marathon on the backburner to fix it, and/or bring in new blood to revive the shambling corpse of destiny 2
honestly I dont like fps game apart extraction shooter so yeah I get it might be niche but when you are bungie you know your game has to reach a wide audient dont make it a pain to play for newbies
I think the free week for marathon was what killed it, because 90% of gamers they targeted saw that it was bad
Instead they went all in on marathon and look where that landed them
not at all the game was awful at launch it still is
I play it because I am into this genre
now I wouldnt advice people to get the game right now
its kind of hard to say. ye it was bad for sales but it was good for reviews and whats lets say 5x the sales matter if all of em quit within week 1
cz whoever didnt buy it after testing the week, wasnt gonna stay anyway
Honestly
this game need an insane amount of work when it comes to matchmaking, readability, tutorial and such
Charging for a live service that needs a lot of players to be successful
What an insane way to shoot yourself in the foot
Idk i think most of my extraction shooter friends wouldve bought it to test it out if not for the free weekend completely turning them off from it
even for free people wouldn't play it because dying 20 times in a row is just a miserable experience
Sure they wouldve quit 1 week in, or maybe battled through it cuz pricey game, but it wouldve been a sale nonetheless for bungee
ye.. and theyd have left just as quickly, with 40 bucks less in their bank account and more negative reviews because of that on the game 
I tell it marathon is way more difficult than tarkov. No way to play stealth loot and extract in marathon you need to PvP and the ttk is so short you die a lot
So many layers and layers of incompetence at bungie
the first sale doesnt really matter for a live service game. the cost of servers and devs will completely make it irrelevant within a short amount of time. you need players to stay and have them spend to make money on it
Whut
for me this game needed 6 months more of internal testing
Ttk in tarkov is literally 0.1 second sometimes
I agree with your conclusion, but not with your reasoning. I think the same is true for Highguard. In both cases, their mistake was offering the game to an audience far broader than the target audience. By doing so, they got a lot of players who would never have been interested in the game in the first place and for whom the game wasn't made, shouting their meaningless opinions into the void. This contributed significantly to its perceived perception, and that kills games that require momentum.
I play both tarkov and marathon my exfil rate in tarkov is way higher than marathon
even if ttk is also short in tarkov
I dont think they had the option
I dont have to fight half of the lobbie in tarkov in marathon wow it is crazy
yeah probably because of the pressure of sony
Yeah my point requires more nuance, what you wrote is what i was too lazy for 
i dont think itd have mattered if they had 6 months of 5 more years to cook on this. it was all conceived from a bad spot with clearly incompetent people making decisions at the helm
I guess if you play away from fights, but both in tarkov and marathon i go towards fights
joe ziegler is quite good and understand exactly the issue in marathon
he wrote something for the future of the game quite transparent and reasonable
Itās crazy for me that these companies dont consult people that successfully ran live services to get bigger over time
no need, the suits clearly know the formula to make money. nostalgia + fotm + a lot of money
if i want a short version ill put it into ai
GET DOWN MR PRESIDENT
I tell you guys marathon PvE could be D3
They perfectly understand the issue of the game they say:
WHAT WE'VE LEARNED
- Marathon is overwhelming to learn.
- It's easy to hit a wall if you're not spending lots of time, don't have a consistent crew, or are not super skilled.
- Still figuring out the balance mix of the endgame.
- Sometimes you don't want to sweat.
With 1 2 and 4 you cannot attract casuals
Nah it was the hate campaign and the Destiny players that refused to play it
You legit had streamers being harassed because they liked Marathon

honestly no the game did sell quite well when it launched
people just gave up on it because the game is done for sweat
you had people harrassed for playing hogwarts legacy by fucking weirdos and it was still a huge success. this twitch or social media shit doesnt matter for most people
the "hate" campaign is not responsible for bungie making a game for sweat who are not a very large group
Iām one of those players that thinks teaming up once in a while is cool, but nothing like the Care Bear lobbies on Arc Raiders
That shit is straight up larping
the sweat issue you keep harping on is a deeper issue that most players didnt even get to experience
there is a middle group between getting bored in arc and being killed 20 times in a row trying to do contract in marathon
even the developper themselves recognize the issue
read the text I posted a little bit earlier
it is by bungie themselves
more like they accept that their players think its an issue and thats why theyre changing it
cz clearly they didnt think it was an issue before
it wouldnt be an issue for a small studio with 10k players
it is an issue for bungie and sony
I love killing players in Extraction shooters 
I can be stacked with loot and Iāll still go and kill you for the love of the game
same but up to bungie to make the experience more enjoyable for a larger group of player
idk thats the game. you cant stop pvpers from pvping..
they need to do some design change in the game to avoid making the experience miserable for casuals
the genre by definition just isnt casual friendly. thats like saying you gotta make br less miserable for casuals when there can only be one winner
I already told one of the issue is that map in marathon are quite small so you always encounter other player. In tarkov maps are larger there is more room for playing stealth and enjoying getting good loot and exfil
marathon needs two larger map
and also more vertical maps
honestly I am rather casual and I enjoy it but I understand people giving up out of frustration
I almost dropped the game several time
and extract shooter are one of my favorite genre

I am just saying bungie need to focus with only one idea: ok we got feedback that the game is way too difficult for casuals, how can we keep the player base while reaching people who bought it but gave up on it
and I think a PvE mode with raids a la destiny would be interesting
marathon has such a deep and interesting universe
if you read the codex entry it seems like a scifi novel
I just think it would be bad if they kill such an unique game
I dont want all the video game to look the same

What about the yearly/seasonal gear wipes since thats a whole thing, people dont like losing their cool gear
FOMO is healthy for gaming
All i know is my fireteams gonna be on d2 for the final update
Weāre doing pantheon
You aināt gonna get it
Just sayin
I hope crown is in the pantheon
That raids mechanics are so underrated, challenging and fun asf
OMFH YESSSSSS XXDDD THIS IS AMAZING
Omg the debate this sparked
That if the entrance was the front or the back
Entrance is back
Wrong 
141 go š®
National news talking about Motorslice
Nice clips
Way ahead of you pal
ok, guess bugthesda also doubles for bugmolesta based on this design 
Have you ever done it in general?
Btw @proper basin my friends would be up to getting raids sorted for you so I'll dm an invite but we do go by a schedule
We arrange runs etc
Ye it's pretty fun
I doubt they'll bring back old raid encounters
thx
I need to rework my aim and movement since I don't played valorant for 1y
But i'm trolling a bit, because i'm in diamond currently bruh
I'm using
I just copy florescent settings since i'm used to it, same sens, same mouse, same mousepad ( gigantus v2 pro and artisan daidai orange ), same rt settings, and same lod
honestly, i always gotta wonder how people won't get absurd headaches all the time with that much aim trembling
I was trolling, like I wanted to told to the mate, for rotate by moving left to the right
Because they wanted to push the site, when it was not the good idea
When u play in immo / rad lobbie, u get something like natural instinct, understanding when to force a site or not, and you calculate every second to know when a player will arrive from a certain place on every map / timing, so I know when we can enter, or if it's a bad idea, and here, since they're platine, they don't think that way so it's frustrating but idk
I want to play again in immortal lobbie, but my lvl is shit currently, i'll up it in soloq, and just practice again, like I have more game sense than aim currently
Iāve done last wish
Never tried Petraās
wait so you DON'T play on almost everything 0.1 like a maniac???
whatttttt thats crazyy
I dont think I have any crazy recent clips
I'm not crazy at valo I'm very mid, I do want to improve though
I got a few swift clips
thats enough lmao
:P
real
the ai got that anger in them
They really do
Nah it's inconsistent
I punish him a bit
and trolling him XDDDDD
He wanted 1 meter
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isn't val just another game where you hold angles ?
It is š
It's the main goal of valorant since it's tactical shooter

So I laugh so hard when I read him š
" U slow and u hold angle "
It's the main goal of valorant, u will not do footstep when u will peek someone š
i can sense that he isn't left his room for days
Valorant is cs go version children
So u have to deal with these type of kids everyday
Like baby sitting
we love babysitting
0.1 is consistent too but like genuinely it's only because I poured hundreds of hours on 0.1 most likely over a thousand tbh š
Real asf
These mfs just be teleporting
they be pissing me off the most when I'm genuinely trying to get shit done
It's not bad, what I mean is in my case for example, i prefer to stay consistent, than have the lowest actuation point because I know than a day I can be good with it, and a other day press too high and do bad strafing
Ill just be drifting and one will spawn sideways inside of my car š
it's like the sens for aiming
Sometime u can play with high sens, sometime u shit with it
Better to find the optimal settings for consistency
Honestly I feel the most consistent when I'm on my ADHD meds 
but I get where you're coming from though
I really don't feel that way at all, must be a person to person kind of thing
with aim yeah
but with movement it all feels the same
Same for this, I have to take xanax for anxiety since I take it for 4y, and when I don't take it, I can't focus on valorant
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@cold anvil
I used 0.1 for a while, but I feel, for prefire and stuff like this, you can do bad input in clutch if you're angry or anxious
Sometime it's not u the problem, but if your team mate trashtalk or scream
It's hard to be consistent
I take a med called Vyvanse, honestly w/o I'm fine in valo but veryyyy inconsistent but in games like osu where you need your attention at all times thats where my brain falls apart. everything kinda looks and feels like a blur
and I feel like 5x slower
this is why i use .3
I was top 1 fr in catchthebeat when I was kid on osu
and #49
Playing 14h a day with south korean lololol
fuck if only those poles werent there
but thats fucking clean drift
The poles were the target
Wanted to tap em all without hitting the wall
Now i'm 50 in France XDDD
oh i see
I think another thing that has helped me tremendously with 0.1 is the fact that to prior owning my 80he I had a membrane keyboard, no mechanical. that legit all I had lmao
thats pretty insane feat tho
It's bad when I know than I was #1 š
But I stopped to play it in 2018
Because I was bored of osu
Peppy " the creator of osu " reward was osu supporter 1y
And our eyes was literally fcked, to fc hardest beatmap in cwc
I peaked like 1,800 world wide in beatsaber like 2 years ago man I get the feeling
osu is not a bad game but more u play it, more u have anger issue and lose fun
When u get the best rank
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_8FGiiad6U peak cwc map
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Grand Finals Tiebreaker
Yooh - Eternity
Map Link
https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/2402789#fruits/5211146
Song Composer
Yooh: https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmaps/artists/218
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It's like u don't play for the music, but u play to fc the map
ehh Im kinda there still
totally...
It's hard no ?
beatsaber is one of the hardest rhythm games out there and I stand by that
Fuck those signs in particular
28 miss, I corrected the old score with S 98,08
Replay : https://ufile.io/dda3a
When my eyes was not fcked as now
Like gdct and osu / sdvx / beatmania brhh
almost 2400 hours 
these videos games need too much times
the only game I spend more than 7000h is black desert online
mmorpg
forgot you could do this but this is my highest pp play
https://replay.beatleader.com/?scoreId=14089703
skip to like 2:25
the thing that made beat saber so difficult is how score is calculated
it's not only the accuracy of hitting the notes in the middle but you would get score on swing angle too
U don't get pain in your arm ?
To get the full 100 points for swing angle you only need to swing 160° total, so you can stop a little earlier and still get full score.
For the last 15 points you need to hit the center.
arm and for fore arm muscle is key to it but thats not what you should be worried about
beat saber is an absolute wrist killer
because of the weight of the vr controllers
you kinda need to balance arm and wrist and dependinding on map style or map segment you would use more or less of either
but to like put in a basic perspective
Wrist = Speed
Arm = Acc
not to mention there's countless controller grips
not like accessories but ways to hold the controller
When I would play beat saber I would hold my controllers like this
I remember someone in the community made a whole google doc on grips and controller settings for specific grips
for like a basis and you'd tune it on your own
thank you mod hidden in the shadows
@maiden tulip if you were a snake how would you drive a car
Mouth
Thank you
Hi guys is it okay if i advertise some games here? hehe
against the rules
i thought this server is the one im joining for the past months
Thanks and im sorry hehe
Ah yee so not for me šš
I have a new disc for hernia c5 c6
Im not authorized to force in gym
And do some stuff
Oh damn thats rough
love me some ghosting
how do your games look so bad
like you're not the only one who'S shown me awful ghosting
dlaa
tmw im using taa and it looks better than this
i find taa too pixelated
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Taa is always smoothed af btw
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Its also doing it for me
Not all the time and only on some cars ive noticed
What aa are you using
Idk
I set it to extreme and turned on amd dlss thing
I can ss my settings when im off work
Also havent bought lossless scaling yet
Will get thst when I get paid
its kinda shit in this game
usa taa
that will just make the game blurrier
Switch your Stadia Controller to Bluetooth mode to keep gaming wirelessly on your favorite devices and services after Stadia shutsĀ down
bless people who did this (archived it)
just a shame it has no xinput
translation software is an option on windows
Ill do this, on my way home rn
Which keyboard would be most comfortable to play geometry dash with im looking into playing extreme demons and want the best keyboard I can get
Ur asking in a wooting discord, the answer will most likely be wooting, so uwu or 80he?
Obviously a wooting lol mainly asking 60he v2 or 80he
whatever layout you prefer more
there is no best keyboard
Ill go with the 80he after some thought hope wooting enjoys my 300$
Added font
:-D
why we adding hybrid maps in 2026
Waifu kings row
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Neat. Near universal support for all disc based console discs.
ye been running it and its quite nice. especially that i dont need a kreon drive for 360 games anymore
i wanted to get a second maybe third of the same external drive i have anyway as backups
IGN: Mixtape 10/10
IGN: Pragmata 8/10
bruh wtf... i cant even rn
you only need 178 button presses to beat Mixtape :')
Ok now you measure game quality in button presses per time you beat it?
Clearly making the point that it's a mildly interactive movie and it's a stretch to call it a game at all
Mhmm.
hope wii and gamecube get full support
would be dope to finally have 1 drive that does it all
Also IGN along with practically every game reviewer out there has wildly inconsistent scoring schemes for the immense variation of games, making their ratings practically worth it
What makes games good to them has little to no bearing on what makes games good for me, with exception of the most basic levels of "does it run"
In the Maslov's Heirarchy of Good Games Need, IGN and Me overlap on the base and that's about it
Are hybrids the capture then push payload
Or is it those shitty 2 payload ones
are the reviews even by the same person? and idk mixtape but personally think 8 is a bit high for pragmata tbh
Haven't played either, neither appeal to me
I think the combat in Pragmata looks especially dumb, but I'd give them points for creativity at least
this was my pragmata summary
start and end of the story was really nice, and as you said after the first few times the combat is really dumb, they did make some good boss fights with it, but thats too little of the game
yes
tried pragmata. its ok but after finishing the 2nd area a couple hours in i dont really feel like continuing
im not to keen on the main mechanic with the hacking stuff
push peak mode
yeah thats fair, the mid section of the game is really boring gameplay wise
Yahoo
I actually really hope it wins Geoff's marketing show just because it would be hilarious to see the anger over it
Alan wake reminds me of resident evil 4
Enemies are insufferable
Wtf too many of them they are annoying
Who told the developper than putting a fight every 30 sec with these enemies would be good
Well at least in alan wake enemies dont talk
The decision to end support for Destiny 2 and move at least some amount of resources over to Marathon was made earlier this year. Work continued on future Destiny 2 content, including future expansions like Shattered Cycle, and did not stop immediately when this decision was made.
This was because the vast majority of Bungie did not know about Destiny 2 support being dropped right up until it was publicly announced.
There were certain teams within Bungie that did know what was coming, some who were working on āfinal" Destiny content for the June update, some who had already been moved to Marathon.
These people ābegged" leadership to tell more people and keeping so many people in the dark divided the studio, and these in-the-know teams felt extremely isolated.
I hope there are well paid to deal with this
Kind of situation where you go to work you dont even want to work
Honestly it sucks because they seem extremely passionate.
Not telling people is really not ok
A lot of ex devs have come out saying similar stuff, even dmg when he stepped down from being a CM vented his frustration.
Devs wanting to do everything players wanted, make new content, do out of the box stuff
Always shut down.
Welcome to game dev under huge publisher
They will take you, burn you out from both ends, squeeze as much money as they can from your work and then leave you alone
Remind me some years ago where I had to train the person replacing me at work I was young so I considered it might be normal but years later I realized it was not normal at all
I get this but Bungie in particular is pretty gross
And on a much worse scale
If we consider the last 3 years
Especially
Live service games are getting super greedy and gross in practices
It's not old Bungie anymore
Now Bungie executives are interested only in squeezeing as much money as they can from studio and from people
They muted me from the marathon discord for no reason given I suspect it was because I said the marathon community should show some solidarity with the d2 one (even if I never played destiny) and what bungie was doing was not ok
Wait so they had people work on stuff that was destined to be thrown out? Why? That seems like a really poor use of human resources
No one thought it was
No offence Cals but like, most people from the outside don't know what they are talking about and just wanna hate rather than actually discuss facts and real Insights.
Honestly I just wish there was another extract shooter I liked I would just drop marathon
Saying welcome to big punisher doesn't contribute at all to this topic.
And disregards a lot of the problems at its core, it's beyond normal big publisher/dev company nonsense.
Nah, I know how it looks like in corpo side of things
I had a lot of my work thrown out too, and I get to know about huge changes from coworkers, who heard it from other coworker, etc. and not in an official way
Often when a studio is bought by a big company it becomes awful for employee and gamers
It's not as simple as work being thrown out though.
The more layers of management there is, the worse is working for that company, it's just as simple
Bro they should let the community host their own servers
Bungie is a study case of how a studio can turn to shit when bought
Bungie created Halo!
They abandoned the game years ago and planned to sell to Sony and deliver bare minimum till they could bail and keep money.
It happened before bought, the being bought was the start of upper managements grand plan to bail ship.
Well sony bought them for 3 billions that is how out of touch this company is
Seriously they buy a studio 3 billions but dont have 100 millions to develop d3?
I dont understand how these companies think
It's frustrating because when they let devs do what they want during panic when the player count nose dived before final shape and general hatred they made some of the most fun/best content in meer months to help with the delay.
Bungie fucking cooks when under pressure, especially when they needed to drag it out another 2 years so they can bail and keep their buyout money.
They were scrambling so hard
Marathon itself was never a properly developed game either.
It was always a proof of concept and remade multiple times, they delivered the bare minimum to show value in the company.
Marathon had a lot of issue during development that is why it ended up costing so much
All they had to do was bring back Wrath of the Machine and give us a Siva subclass
Again it was always to drag it out.
Not even just a publisher we know lots of stuff got rejected while bungie was still on their own post activision, bungies always been this way
It's a miracle it released in the state it did.
Personally I enjoyed Marathon but then again I love extraction shooters
To be clear I'm not blaming devs here
Sadly it didnāt do anything really unique imo
It was in an abysmal state before launch
At least before the last two closed and open betae
I never got into any of the betas
I remember you told me and that had me worried
It's a different game vs betas
Beta is right now tbh
I remember a dev came out about this bug, they had a fix but management delayed it.
And it was like a single digit or letter in the code a random user fixed
Well, tbh the perks are pretty neat 
But ye treatment to passion was horrible
Issue is that doing this the risk is you end up with talented dev leaving
And starting their own studio
Like the dev of clair obscure
Not a chance
There's to many devs at Bungie and most of them are in minor positions, anyone in the position you're on about are part of the problem.
Hasn't the ex Bungie line been used before
I heard the OG bungie is now rich or something
Bro Pete bailed as soon as he legally could lmao
He isn't original Bungie in my eyes though
Since he inserted himself during the early Ms days
Oh ok
That's kinda my point
It was all dragged out to death for the sake of being able to stick around till payout
Like that money Sony spent didn't go into pockets of management till after so long.
But sony, if they want to make money with bungie, should just change completely how the studio is managed. I dont see how it can last for a long time like this
I just don't see a future for Bungie
They are going from disaster to disaster
Maybe another studio under Sony with all the current devs.
Bungie after leaving MS have always been up and down and up and down
I have a question is naughty dog owned by a big company?
They did terrible, we are so back, they did terrible, we are so back.
Looking back they will just fire half of the people and sell the studio to the lowest bidder
Look what happened to Evolution 
I canāt wait to see all the stuff thatās gonna come out about Bungie when the layoffs happen
Uhm hello..??? UE6??? Whats up with that????
nothing really, ue6 has been soft announced a while ago, with a main focus on multi threading for the engine
Destiny 2
- Base game, a mess.
- Curse of osirus absolute š©
- Warmind better....
- Forsaken praise the fucking Lord Bungie cooked but oh right Activision had to give them a second studio to save their ass
- Shadowkeep, absolute š© but we'll cut em a little slack since it's their first post Activision split
- Beyond light, better but fuck content vaulting, player base drops a lot.
- 30th anniversary micro expansion, absolutely cooked. Even now still fun.
- Absolute fucking masterpiece, Bungie absolutely fucking cooked, player base boomed all year.
- Lightfall, the first expansion where most devs moved to marathon and Lightfall was horrendous, if it wasn't for strand it would be the worst expansion to date, players tanked.
- Into the light emergency micro expansion absolutely cooked in just a few monthss
- The final shape, the final nail in the coffin imo, they self sabatage themselves, people loved it but left very very quickly, personally I hated the story though.
and like anything next gen likely focuses more on neural rendering as a main option
Ah so UE5 but supposedly more optimized?
Personally I wasnāt a fan of Forsaken
For now it's been just a short clip from Rocket League 
The fact that the barons were adventures was dumb as shit
any UE version is just an arbitrary cutoff from the previous one with more features that were decided to land there
Oh it had its flaws
Old Bungie would have turned each one into a Strike
But the content amount was insane
Ok š
because at some point it makes sense calling it UE6 instead of 5.12
Yeah that makes sense
But ye I didn't like the baron stuff either
There have been quite changes to rendering pipeline between UE4 and UE5 though
generally they make that with an editor layour update and pull some things in that are in a preview state like lumen isntead of having it launch a version later
yeah sometimes it has some extras that combined just make sense to have it be the main focus for a mainline update
Yeah the 30th anniversary was amazing that was Dares of Eternity right?
UE6 should automatically fry your computer if you can't apply Lumen and Nanite properly and just slap it on top of the game 
I'd say that UE5 is a slop engine, if not for so many games where UE5 works wonderfully 
Bro I hated nimbus such a dumb fucking character https://youtube.com/watch?v=SAB5nDQJ-eY&si=njdrqF1Pm9-aj_1z
Poor tax payers
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its the same with ue4 most features launching with an engine just need more improvements to properly use them and too many studios use the tools without enough knowledge to properly handle them
Dungeon, dares, xurs treasury place, really fun exotics/quests
Also halo x destiny
Unfortunately anyway
I hate him more than the fortnite dude on cosmadrone
Put some respect on Shaw
No
He's a blueberry in disguise that somehow defied the games very universal laws.
The twat has super end game gear, more than one exotic on and his job is I'm a new dude who lost his fire team for stupid reasons.
When Satisfactory moved to UE5 they actually handled the move really well, and now game is working even better
And it's an indie studio 
Oh and getting his ass beaten
While again somehow being the only guardian to wear multiple exotics, again from end game content.
He literally has the Ahamkara Spine though!
yeah many cases of either devs thinking they can just lumen/nanite with vaniall settings, some management saying we need it, and any combination of the two
The best strike in D2 will always be Savathƻn's Song
but cant really say and only release features once they are toddle proof either, that would make no sense from a engine side
Exactly
And last wish fear
Gear
And an exotic chest piece
so why did you play it for so long
Because at its core it's an amazing game
Nothing feels as good as destiny 2 gunplay.
It was such a fun game and no other game has gunplay as satisfying as Destiny
Nothing
If you know you know
I love Warframe before someone says
I guess... would be nice if game studios actually took a bit of time to use engine features correctly though 
Warframe gets boring though
Iāve been playing it for like 14 years 
On and off
Destiny would just do something to my brain and have me mindlessly grinding for days
But also I barely played for years, id login for new story, log off and play 1-3 hours a week with my buddies because social life is poop
If it wasn't for them I would have stopped 100% years ago
Tbh destiny 2 runs with my friends got me through the 6 months in hospital, it was the one thing I had control over and let me escape.
Worst time in my life.
And it helped relieve it, even if I was using moonlight on 10mb/s down lmao
Destiny 2 got me through a lot of rough shit in my life, or well the friends I've been playing with for 6 or so years every week.
Same saw a lot of friends come and go through Destiny
Just like how games line WoW or RS are very important to people even now.
Itāll always have a special place as much as I love to bash on it
We all have a special game we can't fully let go of.
Ye
It's a game I've always loved deep down but at the same hated and can't recommend to anyone.
I remember for Witch Queen I maxed out the faction rank in one night doing a stupid chest glitch lol
Witch queen is my favorite expansion
Destiny will always be the series that could have had a lot of potential if Bungie had done something with it
Ye
Fighting Savathun with 3 people was hell for the legendary campaign
That's what makes it so frustrating
It's an amazing game that doesn't actually get any treatment until they have no choice.
And when they do it's a blast
I soled the entire thing, always have done.
The story journey for me has to be solo haha
Ever since d1
I would complete it with friends on one class and then do it with the others solo
It's MY story
lol
People found Savathun so difficult but honestly
I found it pretty easy
Even when I did it again in a group
I think I do my best work when solo and I just kinda become relaxed and casual in a group unless it was flawless/master/pantheon
Bro Im not kidding, I did pantheon on my steam deck streaming from home.
I still don't know how
Now that destinyās gone weāre ALLL moving to warframe, amirightguyz????
I donāt think anything will ever fill the Destiny vacuum
Dw on everyoneās soul here they stopped destiny 2 to make destiny 3
I love Warframe regardless
I always come back for a burst of a week or two and get annoyed hahah
Sometimes a month or so
I play every once in a while, never enough to make meaningful progress but I like the thought of making progress lmao
I know you're joking 
https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2026/05/22/with-destiny-2-gone-no-destiny-3-is-coming/
I remember when we were doing Grasp of Avarice flawless and my friend killed my other friend by swinging his sword at him and killing him against a wall with the momentum
I miss sword killing
So so so much
I remember on Mars we would all pull out the telesto and shoot people to make their game crash so we could get as many of our clan members to do the escalation protocols lol
Escalation Protocol was so fun imo
Slammin afk raid members into the wall with swords just to see if theyd go flying or die
Nothing more fun than obliterating my fire teams spines because I sworded them against a wall
Haha
Tbh whats most likely true is that they wanted full focus on the development of marathon as itās their latest live service title
Over 9 hours in day one deep stone hearing STATUS: CALAMITOUS in your sleep after all was said and done
Gender Sector reassessment: Orbital platform active
Company??? Greed??? Nahhhh that would neverrr happennn
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The Deep Stone Crypt Playlist:
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Then after that encounter hearing the peak that was deep stone lullaby and āAre you enjoying yourselves, intruders?ā
Context for anyone, always sounds like Clovis is saying gender re assessment
Haha
unreal 6 announced fake or not chat?
Nothing more satisfying than beating day 1 caretaker tho
That boss was a WALL
I gave up
Oh wait caretaker was a different raid
I didn't attempt it as I was taking a break
Deep stone I gave up after 14 hours because we always had one spot people kept leaving.
Such a good raid
It really is
Rhulk was better than witness imo
Witness had less personality than atrax
Never got to go that raid sadly
Only raid i didnt complete
And i beat day 1 ron lol
Did that one with lfg
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okay im not crazy i saw that but from an unrealiable source
One moment
FH6 has this game breaking bug, you guys should look out just in case because this is very serious.
Could already tell it was Calsy with that reaction without mousing over the emote 
I already used this against @maiden tulip


Huh, is Steam having issues today?
why
That's very slow.
oh i see the sonic game is downloading too fast
yeah i wonder why its not slower tbh
would save a lot of souls from the gruesomeness of these games
Yeah Steam's CDN is just kind of slow today, how strange.
sonic 3d games should legally be limited to 25kbps download speeds
make it 28.8kbit/s to get that 90s feeling
nekros moment
what mission is this 
it says conduit so i thought disruption but i dont think there's a ||spoiler planet|| disruption mission
syndicate
i see
also im after a melel
i got mausolon and it was good enough for all content i want to do with archwing
ah
yeah i just shoot everything 

maybe a little overkill
nvm its a gun
my artch setup is a joke
that is a bit of a problem
im just struggling to kill a golum
@narrow juncoIs helios prime shit these days? i never see anyone use it
yeah i ran out of things to min max
its ok but nautilus better when it comes to mechanical companions
sure i got nothing better goin on
MrPleasant_exe#988
ill
@narrow juncoit seems finishing that quest unlocked the deadlock protocol so your timing with advice was impeccable lol
very nice
yeah i try to refrain from giving too much specific advice but that one bothers me cause selling that item is such a bad mistake and it's such an easy mistake to make
Had to stop playing, it reached 29c in my office.
understandable
i should open my windows wide
but i am listening to music (loud) so i dont wanna get up from my chair
yeah understandable
no, nobody plays nekros
it's alright with the correct build
He's my second fave xD
But also i meant more sitting there and doing nothing because powers
Not even good for that
Your mirage is way lower maintenanve for much more kills in that clip for example
Is it possible to make Sonic Adventure 2 run at a higher framerate than 60?
be glad it's even running at 60 instead of being hardwired to 30, going by how it's a port/remake/whatever of a 25 year old game š
:|
a framegenerator could be used on it ig
That wouldn't make anything better.
How about anything to do about the bug in Neon White where it won't always capture the cursor?
Mods are the way i believe
Dunno if sa2 gets funky with higher frame rates like unleashed does
That's a latter game, so probably.
Neon White is so good but man the bugs are so frustrating.
ngl that game confuses the shit out of me
What about it
@pulsar prism https://youtu.be/wVAgJ-83M2w?si=M6x2oI889YcR8LRX
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@ivory dune titania build, can swap preparation for power drift and higher level pistoleer would be good, i just dont have one atm
Thanks
pistol build, this assumes you are using archon continuity
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here, you can also use magnetic might over expel grineer
up to you
I don't even have shards unlocked yet
yeah dont worry about that yet
i think they started as like days the bank was closed by law and are now just public holidays like christmas, easter etc
banks close on those days in other countries as well
yeah but in france it is because it is a catholic holiday
in other countries too I think
having a public holiday for bank seems so odd to me
Thatās⦠thatās not what bank holiday means
As Tony said itās a colloquial term for every day that banks are closed outside the regular week schedule
Don't think about it, enjoy day off 
I, for one, am enjoying the extra paid day off of work.
i for one am melting
Trailblazer ruined by a Barn Find in Forza Horizon 6 š
Quoting QNDZY (@QNDZYcom)
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it just means that business etc arent operating
The weather
christmas is a bank holiday
That one is celebrating Yule, this one is celebrating the weather
dropping a yule log
I finished Gothic 1. It's a good game though the second half is nowhere good as the first
Scam Citizen
best part is, that those jocks are calling it "donations" when in reality it's targeted milking of investors and gamers alike š
but if they can really write it off as donations it would end up tax free, which makes the entire matter even worse
Donations are only tax free to specific types of charities, if I recall correctly 501c
pretty much all i know about donation/gift taxation š
if the scam citicen devs actually get taxed over it tho, then it's all the better in my book, yea
nobodys calling it donations anyway..
well, that X post clearly did
yeah, so nobody 
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twitter posters arent real people
I remember when I worked with that guy who was bragging to me about having spent like 1K or 2K on a ship. I just stared at him like I didnāt know what Star Citizen was
ok, WTF google, since when is this a thing? O_o
years
pfft ok, never saw this strange animated ball icon here in the search results until today and i've been looking up some pokemon every other month or so to check some stats or whatever 
I had so much fun in the free flight, I really wanna buy this game
The ace sound is so good
Val :(
the devil and his temptations 
lowkey i would still be playing val if the trash anti cheat didnt try to break my system every time i launched the game (Back when i was on my am4 build)
I donāt think Iāve had a single issue with the anti chat
for example
needing to restart the system when you launch the game
every val player has done it
Yeah that is true, I havenāt had the pop up in ages though
Its more of a minor inconvenience if anything imo
No for sure I understand
Also idk how people have so many interferences with vanguard, just donāt have the anti cheat open š
āErm.. guys.. Bf6 is telling me to uninstall valorantā¦.āMAYBE DONāT TRY TO HAVE 2 GAMES OPEN AT ONCE YOU BRAINDEAD MORON
sounds to me like bf6 is just based and you cant handle it
no the issue is vanguard is active even when the game is closed
because it has to be started on sytem boot
was gonna say. that root kit is running all the time
though that was iirc only an issue during beta, so now its only showing that error when the game truly is open
how dare they when my pc is trying to POST
ah yeah I was mixing up vanguard and the cod anti cheat fighting bf6
vanguard never had it if valorant wasnt open, nvm
Is it invisible?
I genuinely wasnāt able to create the same pop up that random twitter user had unless I had valorant open before opening BF6
also annoyed its been like 6 years and I never got my yearly stats..... 
devs too busy moaning in game chat
sorta? it tends to not do anything if you arent starting a vanguard protected game
but yeah, seems like you do infact need to have the game active for bf6 to not work, so uh, yeah not an issue
I understand peopleās issues with Kernel Level Anti Cheats, I just dislike when thereās misinformation on it cause people are so quick to believe it without a second look
This is very true I can confirm
Some people may not like it
thats when i prepare the slurs in game chat
"You listen here you little auto tune temu T-Pain-"
after having hung out in vr chat talking about phantom sense for 3 hours they move to val
thats the next level
phantom pain maxxing

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imagine
okay chat imagine
releasing another engine when your current slop hasnt been out for more than 4 years
couldn't be epic, right? š
its okay though! Since its coming to rocket league you can have frame drops while flying through the air 
well current counter argument could be "the devs need to learn how to utilize the tools and optimize their games āļø š¤ "
? its basically the same timeline as form ue4 to ue5
6 years after launch they tease the next one, then 2 years later the first engine build becomes available to people
in tandem with console launch cycle
I mean there's a lot of well optimized games on UE5
No matter what, if you give a good carpenter a hammer to drive screws in, you can't expect a good final product, and that's what PMs and execs want from game devs nowadays
how tf did it copy the link beneath the twitter link I coped
this site is becoming worse and worse as well each day
which ones are optimized well i would like to play them

arc raiders
very true
Satisfactory 
val but dont touch the cancer 
Split Fiction runs on UE5 too
Did you see recon 2.0
I @ād you
i much prefer an actual recon 2.0
and whyd they add buttplugs to the bundle

8900 vp
If itās anywhere near kuronami 2.0 prices thatās just a big no š
It should be premium rarity
recon hits different but this doesnt have that effect
in the case of arc raiders and the finals they took out all the ue5 tech that made it run badly basically
Really solid game, played it twice through now with different people
was ok
Does that invalidate the point? Seems more like it strengthens it; devs are capable of making it work while displaying a beautiful game
after grinding dune i'll play it with my gf
rn we grinding dune and i just researched the dune buggy

optimizing implies you make shit run good. not that you leave it out
It implies both
aight then theres no issues with ue5 agmes. just play it on 3x5 pixels and put everything to low
I think. Ue5. Should be easy to work with. And more optimized. Off the bat. When developers start a project. 
im coping that ue6 means that the tech theyve been adding on over time will be better integrated and run more efficient from the get go or smth 
The hyperbole is unconducive to meaningful discussion...
Canāt wait for the oblivion remastered ue6 update
the point stands that when speaking about optimizing a game, people dont usually mean just leaving out features
no shit if i leave out lumen, the game runs better
they dont use lumen and nanite? thats not the only features of ue5
The dev's job is to make games look good and run good, whether or not all the bell's and whistles are utilized is immaterial
like, you can remove lumen and nanite and ue5 is still substrantially different than ue4
I love oblivion remastered so much, if the game ran like 20% better it wouldāve been good enough for me š
has this been confirmed or copium ?
the engine isnt even out for another 2 years for non epic projects
Assumed 
ye but if the only thing you did was take out lumen and nanite, itd already run better than before
Copium, game hasnāt been updated since last Julyā¦. BUT THEYRE DOING A FUCKING SWITCH 2 PORT INSTEAD OF OPTIMIZING THE GAME
and?? whats your point
Don't you want that? looks at name
I think that the point is at the end of the day Fortnite will still be massive in the next decade
That's not assured
ā¦.
Yes.
It's already struggling
my point is that i dont think its apples to apples to claim a game is super optimized when its missing features the other games didnt leave out
On the metric of revenue received verse spent, which is the only metric that matters to the game
I personally think fortnite has struggled countless times and always somehow manage to get back on their feet, they fired those employees for no reason though idk why they did that
Probably ai
valorant just upgraded to ue5 too no? lmfao
Because the game was burning more cash paying developers compared to microtransaction sales
Yeah, so they can add new features
the question was optimized ue5 games, thats an optimized ue5 game

yeah probably take a while for them to upgrade to ue6 unless...unless....VALORANT 2
Creative 2.0 and the ability to make money from it was their worst update, literal slop fest
Ik this is a joke but Valorant is definitely just gonna be like LoL where they kinda just keep adding onto it
Ergo, there's no guarantee that it will be around for the next decade
I mean yeah
Which is a shame, because then the gaming community is going to have to find a new game to leave the kids at daycare with while the adults go play other games
very true i prefer upgrades to the original game than cheap shortcuts and money grabbing tactics as releasing a second game
The children yearn for the mines
cough Destiny 2 cough
This one is already dead

But heyyy play marathon right now!! And you get nothing in return
Your favorite game is gone for good!
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What cod game is this?
blops 7
I am so sorry for your wallet
not really, loaded.com exists so its cheaper
I donāt mind cod games I just donāt like how quick they are to move on
black ops is every 3-4 years and modernwarfare is every 1-2 years iirc
I think allkeyshop is pretty good, gets info on all the major key sites to get you the best deals
i always use key sites rather than direct purchases from steam etc
If itās something minor or something Iām not truly confident in sure but if thereās a steam sale going on or if itās a game I really care about I donāt mind using steam
i mean i bought the game on winter sale
always look for the sales
plus BO7 is pretty much MW23
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