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manic owl
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@cyan pewter they done and gave me a bro dozer

manic owl
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working on a s15 livery rn still not 100%

grizzled quarry
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lil bit of proximity

grizzled quarry
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@little cape

outer pollen
orchid prism
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Delightful management

stiff fiber
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Not ok wtf

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Best way to demoralize people

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Either the one leaving or the one staying

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I am not an expert in economy but I dont understand sony bought bungie for like 3 billions

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I dont understand how they woulnt have 100 or 200 millions to create a destiny 3?

sinful cobalt
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Blame sony

stiff fiber
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It is like someone buying a ferrari and not using the car because gazoline is too expensive

hardy merlin
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Ever since Nishino took over SIE after Jim Ryan, management turned into mismanagement hanaSit
Sony has huge dreams about live-service, but if it's not immediately as big as Fortnite, it's a failure SwitchySippy

stiff fiber
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at the meantime they need to understand that coming out with a good live service game take time

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marathon I am sure has not been tested at all

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no way given how difficult the game is

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you almost cannot do some quest in solo

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they should have taken at least until the end of the year and tested it in open beta

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but sony probably wanted the game out as fast as possible

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it doesnt work that way irl

compact oriole
compact oriole
compact oriole
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<@&1098943457654997093> someone wants a ban

quiet vault
fringe salmon
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The condition for bungie to stay independent under Sony was to be highly profitable, Sony would’ve probably put more money in if they were given the option to have more input into the company

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So now I assume they will absorb most of not all the people there into other projects is my guess

compact oriole
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seems like a move to kill morale and have a bunch of people quit by themselves, so they dont have to fire them and possibly pay out severance packeges n shit

mellow garden
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I wonder if they'll eventually remake the core campaign of Destiny 1/2 as a series of single player games? PlayStation exclusive while we're at it.

fringe salmon
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Bungie had $1.2B set aside in the acq for employee retention and they still laid off several hundreds to keep profitability afloat to stave off control being taken over by sony long enough for the stock to vest, so this isn’t just Sony being stingy

outer pollen
# bleak pike Why am I not surprised.

Apparently they had pitched for Xivu Arath stuff but it got shut down…..all that cool lore built over the years just not continuing https://fxtwitter.com/destinybulletn/status/2057806940961374220

🚨Former Destiny 2 senior narrative designer Robert Brookes says a proper Xivu Arath campaign and raid were pitched multiple times for Destiny 2:
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︀︀"You'd be surprised how many times this was pitched for D2" - thegamepost.com/former-destiny-2-dev-xivu-arath-campaign-raid-pitched-multiple-times-destiny-3/

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compact oriole
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theyve not made a cent of profit in years. idk its not surprising its going downhill

fringe salmon
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Yeah it’s been years of bad decision and burning through cash

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If they had not insisted on retaining independence there’s a chance it would’ve worked out much better, though not guaranteed of course

compact oriole
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hindsight is 20/20

fringe salmon
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Yeah it might also not have changed anything and people would’ve blame the takeover

stiff fiber
narrow junco
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This stuff makes me feel so fortunate that both of the live services i play are run well and arent completely mismanaged

stiff fiber
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ok I have now 120 hours in marathon

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I think this game is not bad but not good either

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I hope they bring new things soon

stiff fiber
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guys did you know that alan wake 2 is not on steam

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they do that to force people to go to epic

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I prefer not playing the game than going to epic shit

fringe salmon
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Ok

narrow junco
outer pollen
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I think the craziest part is how Bungie fragmented their own player base

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The Destiny players are more than likely never ever going to touch Marathon because it caused the game to die

bleak pike
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Hell even dmg went on a rant about it when he left for that year

outer pollen
bleak pike
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It's annoying because Xivu Arath and Savathun are cool

bleak pike
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This is obviously Sony

outer pollen
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I think it’s more of a ā€œyou dug your own graveā€ kind of deal

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We like to joke in my friend group that the game started to die because one of my friend’s got the Euphony

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And then we all stopped playing the next day

fringe salmon
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Marathon didn’t kill d2 it was a attempt to keep bungies independence while they couldn’t manage to make destiny profitable

compact oriole
# stiff fiber why?

cz most wouldve already played it enough to not buy it. the free week before release already hampered sales greatly. but it made it so that people who woulda bought, quit quickly and then leave a negative review, didnt get to

narrow junco
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Extraction games are such a niche, it confuses me every time they chose such a game for their big bet

compact oriole
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idk about niche seeing how big tarkov was and all other serious entries did kinda well as well even aside arc raiders insane popularity

narrow junco
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I feel like if you want to make a live service today you either need unlimited money you can inject until it gets enough players to sustain itself/is good/done (fortnite, deadlock, poe 2, soulframe, overwatch) and/or you need to keep the initial release as cheap and small but good as possible so you dont need a massive amount of players to sustain your game

compact oriole
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you just need to make a good game that people want to play. everything else is either fluff or what you need when youre incompetent

narrow junco
narrow junco
compact oriole
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the whole idea of taking the name of a 40yo ip and then use it to make smth it wasnt.. in my mind it was gonna be a huge failure from the start even before we saw a single png about the game

narrow junco
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Eh i could see a world where it was successful

compact oriole
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it already starts at an obviously idiotic position of abusing a name to gain popularity for something completely different. i have 0 faith in smth like that because its an obvious disingenuous attempt of extracting money from people based on IP

compact oriole
narrow junco
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I dont think that idea is it at all

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Most people that play marathon now probably never heard of the originals

compact oriole
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whats that have to do with the original idea. theres literally no other reason to use an old IP other than name recognition

buoyant osprey
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Apparently I'm playing the stupid idiot international version of Gothic

compact oriole
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marathon clearly wasnt conceived from a place of wanting to make a great product. it was conceived and produced in what corpos think is a way to make money in the gaming industry. you take an old ip and you take whats currently the fotm

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and it didnt pan out

narrow junco
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I dont think it was that cynical

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The reason it didnt pan out was cause aaa has the idea that you can spend unlimited money on something and get unlimited money times 5 out of it

compact oriole
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thats part of it as well

narrow junco
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They are too stuck in their ways and dont look at the fact that they have to support their game for 5 years+ even if not that many people play it

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Word of mouth is the strongest kind of marketing and even if your live service game only has say 5000 players, if they are all happy and the game is good, you will attract new customers over time

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You just need to have enough time to get to that point

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Thats why i said, if you want to make something big from the beginning you need unlimited money like valve, riot, epic etc all have

compact oriole
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well youre also always competing vs all other live service games. so you could have all the time in the world, your game needs to compete for peoples time vs the best ls games there are. and that includes games from other genres as well

narrow junco
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Lots of medium to small bets is better than one big bet in live service

compact oriole
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also you used the biggest ones as examples that mostly made good games from the getgo and didnt need to struggle in limbo to improve the game

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and even they straight up trashed games that didnt do well

narrow junco
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Yes but they all had ages to develop their game

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And a guarantee that they could support those games for over 2 years even if they werent a big hit right away

compact oriole
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epic abandoned paragon and unreal tournament after fn, valve abandoned underlords and artifact, riot abandoned their card game and what ever else im not thinking of

narrow junco
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But yeah, as long as the core of the game is good, it doesnā€˜t really matter how big it is, as long as the game is so good that your players will return with every update

narrow junco
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You dont wanna go all in on your live service

compact oriole
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has bungie ever done anything that wasnt mp/live service

narrow junco
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Dunno

stiff fiber
narrow junco
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But yeah the writing was on the wall for d2 even years ago

compact oriole
narrow junco
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And they should have put marathon on the backburner to fix it, and/or bring in new blood to revive the shambling corpse of destiny 2

stiff fiber
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honestly I dont like fps game apart extraction shooter so yeah I get it might be niche but when you are bungie you know your game has to reach a wide audient dont make it a pain to play for newbies

serene orbit
narrow junco
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Instead they went all in on marathon and look where that landed them

stiff fiber
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I play it because I am into this genre

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now I wouldnt advice people to get the game right now

compact oriole
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cz whoever didnt buy it after testing the week, wasnt gonna stay anyway

narrow junco
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Honestly

stiff fiber
narrow junco
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Charging for a live service that needs a lot of players to be successful

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What an insane way to shoot yourself in the foot

serene orbit
stiff fiber
serene orbit
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Sure they wouldve quit 1 week in, or maybe battled through it cuz pricey game, but it wouldve been a sale nonetheless for bungee

compact oriole
stiff fiber
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I tell it marathon is way more difficult than tarkov. No way to play stealth loot and extract in marathon you need to PvP and the ttk is so short you die a lot

narrow junco
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So many layers and layers of incompetence at bungie

compact oriole
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the first sale doesnt really matter for a live service game. the cost of servers and devs will completely make it irrelevant within a short amount of time. you need players to stay and have them spend to make money on it

stiff fiber
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for me this game needed 6 months more of internal testing

serene orbit
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Ttk in tarkov is literally 0.1 second sometimes

vapid lintel
# serene orbit I think the free week for marathon was what killed it, because 90% of gamers the...

I agree with your conclusion, but not with your reasoning. I think the same is true for Highguard. In both cases, their mistake was offering the game to an audience far broader than the target audience. By doing so, they got a lot of players who would never have been interested in the game in the first place and for whom the game wasn't made, shouting their meaningless opinions into the void. This contributed significantly to its perceived perception, and that kills games that require momentum.

stiff fiber
# serene orbit Whut

I play both tarkov and marathon my exfil rate in tarkov is way higher than marathon

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even if ttk is also short in tarkov

narrow junco
stiff fiber
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I dont have to fight half of the lobbie in tarkov in marathon wow it is crazy

stiff fiber
serene orbit
compact oriole
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i dont think itd have mattered if they had 6 months of 5 more years to cook on this. it was all conceived from a bad spot with clearly incompetent people making decisions at the helm

serene orbit
stiff fiber
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joe ziegler is quite good and understand exactly the issue in marathon

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he wrote something for the future of the game quite transparent and reasonable

narrow junco
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Itā€˜s crazy for me that these companies dont consult people that successfully ran live services to get bigger over time

stiff fiber
compact oriole
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if i want a short version ill put it into ai

narrow junco
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GET DOWN MR PRESIDENT

stiff fiber
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I tell you guys marathon PvE could be D3

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They perfectly understand the issue of the game they say:
WHAT WE'VE LEARNED

  1. Marathon is overwhelming to learn.
  2. It's easy to hit a wall if you're not spending lots of time, don't have a consistent crew, or are not super skilled.
  3. Still figuring out the balance mix of the endgame.
  4. Sometimes you don't want to sweat.
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With 1 2 and 4 you cannot attract casuals

outer pollen
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You legit had streamers being harassed because they liked Marathon

stiff fiber
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people just gave up on it because the game is done for sweat

compact oriole
stiff fiber
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the "hate" campaign is not responsible for bungie making a game for sweat who are not a very large group

outer pollen
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That shit is straight up larping

compact oriole
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the sweat issue you keep harping on is a deeper issue that most players didnt even get to experience

stiff fiber
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there is a middle group between getting bored in arc and being killed 20 times in a row trying to do contract in marathon

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even the developper themselves recognize the issue

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read the text I posted a little bit earlier

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it is by bungie themselves

compact oriole
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more like they accept that their players think its an issue and thats why theyre changing it

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cz clearly they didnt think it was an issue before

stiff fiber
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it wouldnt be an issue for a small studio with 10k players

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it is an issue for bungie and sony

outer pollen
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I can be stacked with loot and I’ll still go and kill you for the love of the game

stiff fiber
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same but up to bungie to make the experience more enjoyable for a larger group of player

compact oriole
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idk thats the game. you cant stop pvpers from pvping..

stiff fiber
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they need to do some design change in the game to avoid making the experience miserable for casuals

compact oriole
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the genre by definition just isnt casual friendly. thats like saying you gotta make br less miserable for casuals when there can only be one winner

stiff fiber
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marathon needs two larger map

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and also more vertical maps

stiff fiber
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I almost dropped the game several time

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and extract shooter are one of my favorite genre

outer pollen
stiff fiber
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I am just saying bungie need to focus with only one idea: ok we got feedback that the game is way too difficult for casuals, how can we keep the player base while reaching people who bought it but gave up on it

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and I think a PvE mode with raids a la destiny would be interesting

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marathon has such a deep and interesting universe

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if you read the codex entry it seems like a scifi novel

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I just think it would be bad if they kill such an unique game

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I dont want all the video game to look the same

outer pollen
proper basin
proper basin
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We’re doing pantheon

outer pollen
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I’m gonna do Petra’s run

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Solo grapestare

proper basin
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You ain’t gonna get it

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Just sayin

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I hope crown is in the pantheon

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That raids mechanics are so underrated, challenging and fun asf

abstract venture
fading spade
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OMFH YESSSSSS XXDDD THIS IS AMAZING

outer pollen
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That if the entrance was the front or the back

proper basin
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Entrance is back

outer pollen
proper basin
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Nu uh

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My fireteam didnt even do back or front callouts lmao

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You dont need em

proper basin
stiff fiber
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141 go 😮

sinful cobalt
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Casual 141gb

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Im not even surprised

buoyant osprey
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National news talking about Motorslice

cold anvil
cold anvil
scarlet sail
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ok, guess bugthesda also doubles for bugmolesta based on this design havo

bleak pike
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But fun

bleak pike
proper basin
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final encounter is intense with shooting the hands lol

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very fun

bleak pike
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Btw @proper basin my friends would be up to getting raids sorted for you so I'll dm an invite but we do go by a schedule

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We arrange runs etc

bleak pike
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I doubt they'll bring back old raid encounters

abstract venture
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I need to rework my aim and movement since I don't played valorant for 1y

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But i'm trolling a bit, because i'm in diamond currently bruh

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I just copy florescent settings since i'm used to it, same sens, same mouse, same mousepad ( gigantus v2 pro and artisan daidai orange ), same rt settings, and same lod

scarlet sail
abstract venture
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Because they wanted to push the site, when it was not the good idea

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When u play in immo / rad lobbie, u get something like natural instinct, understanding when to force a site or not, and you calculate every second to know when a player will arrive from a certain place on every map / timing, so I know when we can enter, or if it's a bad idea, and here, since they're platine, they don't think that way so it's frustrating but idk

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I want to play again in immortal lobbie, but my lvl is shit currently, i'll up it in soloq, and just practice again, like I have more game sense than aim currently

outer pollen
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Never tried Petra’s

bleak pike
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Skrub

cold anvil
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whatttttt thats crazyy

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I dont think I have any crazy recent clips

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I'm not crazy at valo I'm very mid, I do want to improve though

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I got a few swift clips

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thats enough lmao

fading spade
cyan pewter
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the ai got that anger in them

cold anvil
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They really do

abstract venture
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and trolling him XDDDDD

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He wanted 1 meter

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😭

sinful cobalt
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isn't val just another game where you hold angles ?

abstract venture
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It's the main goal of valorant since it's tactical shooter

sinful cobalt
abstract venture
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So I laugh so hard when I read him 😭

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" U slow and u hold angle "

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It's the main goal of valorant, u will not do footstep when u will peek someone šŸ’€

sinful cobalt
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i can sense that he isn't left his room for days

abstract venture
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So u have to deal with these type of kids everyday

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Like baby sitting

sinful cobalt
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we love babysitting

cold anvil
grizzled quarry
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These mfs just be teleporting

cold anvil
abstract venture
grizzled quarry
abstract venture
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it's like the sens for aiming

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Sometime u can play with high sens, sometime u shit with it

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Better to find the optimal settings for consistency

cold anvil
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Honestly I feel the most consistent when I'm on my ADHD meds dogekek
but I get where you're coming from though

cold anvil
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with aim yeah

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but with movement it all feels the same

abstract venture
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šŸ’€

grizzled quarry
abstract venture
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Sometime it's not u the problem, but if your team mate trashtalk or scream

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It's hard to be consistent

cold anvil
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and I feel like 5x slower

abstract venture
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Osu it's normal

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Depending on the time u spend, the ar feel slow or fast

abstract venture
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I was top 1 fr in catchthebeat when I was kid on osu

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and #49

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Playing 14h a day with south korean lololol

little cape
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but thats fucking clean drift

grizzled quarry
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Wanted to tap em all without hitting the wall

abstract venture
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Now i'm 50 in France XDDD

little cape
cold anvil
cold anvil
abstract venture
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It's bad when I know than I was #1 😭

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But I stopped to play it in 2018

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Because I was bored of osu

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Peppy " the creator of osu " reward was osu supporter 1y

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And our eyes was literally fcked, to fc hardest beatmap in cwc

cold anvil
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I peaked like 1,800 world wide in beatsaber like 2 years ago man I get the feeling

abstract venture
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osu is not a bad game but more u play it, more u have anger issue and lose fun

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When u get the best rank

sinful cobalt
abstract venture
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It's like u don't play for the music, but u play to fc the map

cold anvil
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totally...

abstract venture
cold anvil
bleak pike
abstract venture
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When my eyes was not fcked as now

grizzled quarry
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Had to get rid of em

abstract venture
sinful cobalt
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almost 2400 hours SwitchyLife

abstract venture
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these videos games need too much times

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the only game I spend more than 7000h is black desert online

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mmorpg

cold anvil
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skip to like 2:25

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the thing that made beat saber so difficult is how score is calculated

abstract venture
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Ah yee

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Need a good reading

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Look like osu mania but with vr

cold anvil
little cape
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till this day i never got my valorant yearly info

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riot is ass

abstract venture
cold anvil
abstract venture
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Since it's vr based compared to keyboard and mouse

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So body movement

cold anvil
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beat saber is an absolute wrist killer

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because of the weight of the vr controllers

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you kinda need to balance arm and wrist and dependinding on map style or map segment you would use more or less of either

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but to like put in a basic perspective

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Wrist = Speed
Arm = Acc

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not to mention there's countless controller grips

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not like accessories but ways to hold the controller

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When I would play beat saber I would hold my controllers like this

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I remember someone in the community made a whole google doc on grips and controller settings for specific grips

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for like a basis and you'd tune it on your own

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thank you mod hidden in the shadows

cold anvil
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@maiden tulip if you were a snake how would you drive a car

cold anvil
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Thank you

maiden tulip
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@outer pollen

quaint ferry
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Hi guys is it okay if i advertise some games here? hehe

quaint ferry
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im sorry

maiden tulip
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against the rules

quaint ferry
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i thought this server is the one im joining for the past months

quaint ferry
maiden tulip
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do you even dinosaur outfit gang

abstract venture
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I have a new disc for hernia c5 c6

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Im not authorized to force in gym

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And do some stuff

cold anvil
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Oh damn thats rough

quiet vault
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love me some ghosting

maiden tulip
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like you're not the only one who'S shown me awful ghosting

quiet vault
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dlaa

maiden tulip
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tmw im using taa and it looks better than this

quiet vault
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i find taa too pixelated

maiden tulip
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at my res it looks good

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but yeah it is more pixelated

mellow garden
novel umbra
small comet
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default avatar gang

novel umbra
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Taa is always smoothed af btw

fading spade
grizzled quarry
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Not all the time and only on some cars ive noticed

maiden tulip
grizzled quarry
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Idk

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I set it to extreme and turned on amd dlss thing

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I can ss my settings when im off work

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Also havent bought lossless scaling yet

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Will get thst when I get paid

maiden tulip
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usa taa

maiden tulip
bleak pike
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bless people who did this (archived it)

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just a shame it has no xinput

young hill
grizzled quarry
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Meant to reply to lossless yhing*

grizzled quarry
vagrant sapphire
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Which keyboard would be most comfortable to play geometry dash with im looking into playing extreme demons and want the best keyboard I can get

serene orbit
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Ur asking in a wooting discord, the answer will most likely be wooting, so uwu or 80he?

vagrant sapphire
young hill
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there is no best keyboard

vagrant sapphire
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Ill go with the 80he after some thought hope wooting enjoys my 300$

young hill
grizzled quarry
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Until they sneak in something like knife trade ups dogekek

vital wren
green dune
quiet vault
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why we adding hybrid maps in 2026

fathom swift
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Waifu kings row

orchid prism
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Neat. Near universal support for all disc based console discs.

small comet
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ye been running it and its quite nice. especially that i dont need a kreon drive for 360 games anymore

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i wanted to get a second maybe third of the same external drive i have anyway as backups

fading spade
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IGN: Mixtape 10/10
IGN: Pragmata 8/10

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bruh wtf... i cant even rn

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you only need 178 button presses to beat Mixtape :')

narrow junco
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Ok now you measure game quality in button presses per time you beat it?

vapid lintel
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Clearly making the point that it's a mildly interactive movie and it's a stretch to call it a game at all

orchid prism
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Mhmm.

small comet
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would be dope to finally have 1 drive that does it all

vapid lintel
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Also IGN along with practically every game reviewer out there has wildly inconsistent scoring schemes for the immense variation of games, making their ratings practically worth it

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What makes games good to them has little to no bearing on what makes games good for me, with exception of the most basic levels of "does it run"

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In the Maslov's Heirarchy of Good Games Need, IGN and Me overlap on the base and that's about it

grizzled quarry
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Or is it those shitty 2 payload ones

fringe salmon
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are the reviews even by the same person? and idk mixtape but personally think 8 is a bit high for pragmata tbh

vapid lintel
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Haven't played either, neither appeal to me

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I think the combat in Pragmata looks especially dumb, but I'd give them points for creativity at least

fringe salmon
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this was my pragmata summary

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start and end of the story was really nice, and as you said after the first few times the combat is really dumb, they did make some good boss fights with it, but thats too little of the game

compact oriole
compact oriole
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im not to keen on the main mechanic with the hacking stuff

grizzled quarry
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So long as its not push

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Fuck push

quiet vault
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push peak mode

fringe salmon
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yeah thats fair, the mid section of the game is really boring gameplay wise

maiden tulip
verbal nymph
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Yahoo

buoyant osprey
stiff fiber
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Alan wake reminds me of resident evil 4

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Enemies are insufferable

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Wtf too many of them they are annoying

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Who told the developper than putting a fight every 30 sec with these enemies would be good

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Well at least in alan wake enemies dont talk

bleak pike
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2026/05/23/more-details-about-the-end-of-destiny-2-from-inside-bungie/

The decision to end support for Destiny 2 and move at least some amount of resources over to Marathon was made earlier this year. Work continued on future Destiny 2 content, including future expansions like Shattered Cycle, and did not stop immediately when this decision was made.

This was because the vast majority of Bungie did not know about Destiny 2 support being dropped right up until it was publicly announced.

There were certain teams within Bungie that did know what was coming, some who were working on ā€œfinal" Destiny content for the June update, some who had already been moved to Marathon.

These people ā€œbegged" leadership to tell more people and keeping so many people in the dark divided the studio, and these in-the-know teams felt extremely isolated.

Forbes

With Destiny 2 ending, that raises questions about the future of Bungie, and here's some more information from inside the company.

stiff fiber
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I hope there are well paid to deal with this

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Kind of situation where you go to work you dont even want to work

bleak pike
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Honestly it sucks because they seem extremely passionate.

stiff fiber
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Not telling people is really not ok

bleak pike
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A lot of ex devs have come out saying similar stuff, even dmg when he stepped down from being a CM vented his frustration.

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Devs wanting to do everything players wanted, make new content, do out of the box stuff

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Always shut down.

hardy merlin
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Welcome to game dev under huge publisher
They will take you, burn you out from both ends, squeeze as much money as they can from your work and then leave you alone

stiff fiber
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Remind me some years ago where I had to train the person replacing me at work I was young so I considered it might be normal but years later I realized it was not normal at all

bleak pike
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And on a much worse scale

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If we consider the last 3 years

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Especially

iron oak
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Live service games are getting super greedy and gross in practices

hardy merlin
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It's not old Bungie anymore
Now Bungie executives are interested only in squeezeing as much money as they can from studio and from people

stiff fiber
trim rock
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Wait so they had people work on stuff that was destined to be thrown out? Why? That seems like a really poor use of human resources

bleak pike
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No offence Cals but like, most people from the outside don't know what they are talking about and just wanna hate rather than actually discuss facts and real Insights.

stiff fiber
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Honestly I just wish there was another extract shooter I liked I would just drop marathon

bleak pike
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Saying welcome to big punisher doesn't contribute at all to this topic.

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And disregards a lot of the problems at its core, it's beyond normal big publisher/dev company nonsense.

hardy merlin
stiff fiber
bleak pike
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It's not as simple as work being thrown out though.

hardy merlin
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The more layers of management there is, the worse is working for that company, it's just as simple

bleak pike
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That's the problem

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There were never layers

outer pollen
stiff fiber
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Bungie is a study case of how a studio can turn to shit when bought

outer pollen
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Bungie created Halo!

bleak pike
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They abandoned the game years ago and planned to sell to Sony and deliver bare minimum till they could bail and keep money.

bleak pike
stiff fiber
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Well sony bought them for 3 billions that is how out of touch this company is

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Seriously they buy a studio 3 billions but dont have 100 millions to develop d3?

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I dont understand how these companies think

bleak pike
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It's frustrating because when they let devs do what they want during panic when the player count nose dived before final shape and general hatred they made some of the most fun/best content in meer months to help with the delay.

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Bungie fucking cooks when under pressure, especially when they needed to drag it out another 2 years so they can bail and keep their buyout money.

outer pollen
bleak pike
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Marathon itself was never a properly developed game either.

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It was always a proof of concept and remade multiple times, they delivered the bare minimum to show value in the company.

stiff fiber
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Marathon had a lot of issue during development that is why it ended up costing so much

outer pollen
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All they had to do was bring back Wrath of the Machine and give us a Siva subclass

bleak pike
proper basin
bleak pike
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It's a miracle it released in the state it did.

outer pollen
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Personally I enjoyed Marathon but then again I love extraction shooters

bleak pike
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To be clear I'm not blaming devs here

outer pollen
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Sadly it didn’t do anything really unique imo

bleak pike
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At least before the last two closed and open betae

outer pollen
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I remember you told me and that had me worried

bleak pike
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It's a different game vs betas

stiff fiber
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Beta is right now tbh

bleak pike
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Honestly

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Even lightning alone was vastly different

stiff fiber
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But still doesnt change the fact that bungie treat employee badly

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And fanbase badly

bleak pike
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I remember a dev came out about this bug, they had a fix but management delayed it.

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And it was like a single digit or letter in the code a random user fixed

bleak pike
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But ye treatment to passion was horrible

stiff fiber
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Issue is that doing this the risk is you end up with talented dev leaving

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And starting their own studio

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Like the dev of clair obscure

bleak pike
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Not a chance

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There's to many devs at Bungie and most of them are in minor positions, anyone in the position you're on about are part of the problem.

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Hasn't the ex Bungie line been used before

stiff fiber
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I heard the OG bungie is now rich or something

bleak pike
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Concord

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For example

bleak pike
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He isn't original Bungie in my eyes though

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Since he inserted himself during the early Ms days

stiff fiber
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Oh ok

bleak pike
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That's kinda my point

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It was all dragged out to death for the sake of being able to stick around till payout

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Like that money Sony spent didn't go into pockets of management till after so long.

stiff fiber
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But sony, if they want to make money with bungie, should just change completely how the studio is managed. I dont see how it can last for a long time like this

bleak pike
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I just don't see a future for Bungie

stiff fiber
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They are going from disaster to disaster

bleak pike
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Maybe another studio under Sony with all the current devs.

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Bungie after leaving MS have always been up and down and up and down

stiff fiber
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I have a question is naughty dog owned by a big company?

bleak pike
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They did terrible, we are so back, they did terrible, we are so back.

hardy merlin
outer pollen
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I can’t wait to see all the stuff that’s gonna come out about Bungie when the layoffs happen

cold anvil
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Uhm hello..??? UE6??? Whats up with that????

fringe salmon
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nothing really, ue6 has been soft announced a while ago, with a main focus on multi threading for the engine

bleak pike
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Destiny 2

  • Base game, a mess.
  • Curse of osirus absolute šŸ’©
  • Warmind better....
  • Forsaken praise the fucking Lord Bungie cooked but oh right Activision had to give them a second studio to save their ass
  • Shadowkeep, absolute šŸ’© but we'll cut em a little slack since it's their first post Activision split
  • Beyond light, better but fuck content vaulting, player base drops a lot.
  • 30th anniversary micro expansion, absolutely cooked. Even now still fun.
  • Absolute fucking masterpiece, Bungie absolutely fucking cooked, player base boomed all year.
  • Lightfall, the first expansion where most devs moved to marathon and Lightfall was horrendous, if it wasn't for strand it would be the worst expansion to date, players tanked.
  • Into the light emergency micro expansion absolutely cooked in just a few monthss
  • The final shape, the final nail in the coffin imo, they self sabatage themselves, people loved it but left very very quickly, personally I hated the story though.
fringe salmon
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and like anything next gen likely focuses more on neural rendering as a main option

cold anvil
outer pollen
hardy merlin
outer pollen
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The fact that the barons were adventures was dumb as shit

fringe salmon
bleak pike
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Oh it had its flaws

outer pollen
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Old Bungie would have turned each one into a Strike

bleak pike
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But the content amount was insane

fringe salmon
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because at some point it makes sense calling it UE6 instead of 5.12

cold anvil
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Yeah that makes sense

bleak pike
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But ye I didn't like the baron stuff either

hardy merlin
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There have been quite changes to rendering pipeline between UE4 and UE5 though

fringe salmon
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generally they make that with an editor layour update and pull some things in that are in a preview state like lumen isntead of having it launch a version later

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yeah sometimes it has some extras that combined just make sense to have it be the main focus for a mainline update

outer pollen
hardy merlin
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UE6 should automatically fry your computer if you can't apply Lumen and Nanite properly and just slap it on top of the game neko_lurk

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I'd say that UE5 is a slop engine, if not for so many games where UE5 works wonderfully cnisanyHeart

fringe salmon
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its the same with ue4 most features launching with an engine just need more improvements to properly use them and too many studios use the tools without enough knowledge to properly handle them

bleak pike
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Also halo x destiny

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Unfortunately anyway

bleak pike
outer pollen
bleak pike
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No

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He's a blueberry in disguise that somehow defied the games very universal laws.

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The twat has super end game gear, more than one exotic on and his job is I'm a new dude who lost his fire team for stupid reasons.

hardy merlin
bleak pike
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Oh and getting his ass beaten

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While again somehow being the only guardian to wear multiple exotics, again from end game content.

outer pollen
fringe salmon
outer pollen
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The best strike in D2 will always be Savathƻn's Song

fringe salmon
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but cant really say and only release features once they are toddle proof either, that would make no sense from a engine side

bleak pike
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And last wish fear

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Gear

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And an exotic chest piece

small comet
bleak pike
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Nothing feels as good as destiny 2 gunplay.

outer pollen
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It was such a fun game and no other game has gunplay as satisfying as Destiny

bleak pike
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Nothing

outer pollen
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If you know you know

bleak pike
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I love Warframe before someone says

hardy merlin
bleak pike
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But it's a different game

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They shouldn't be compared

outer pollen
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I’ve been playing it for like 14 years buh

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On and off

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Destiny would just do something to my brain and have me mindlessly grinding for days

bleak pike
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But also I barely played for years, id login for new story, log off and play 1-3 hours a week with my buddies because social life is poop

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If it wasn't for them I would have stopped 100% years ago

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Tbh destiny 2 runs with my friends got me through the 6 months in hospital, it was the one thing I had control over and let me escape.

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Worst time in my life.

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And it helped relieve it, even if I was using moonlight on 10mb/s down lmao

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Destiny 2 got me through a lot of rough shit in my life, or well the friends I've been playing with for 6 or so years every week.

outer pollen
bleak pike
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Just like how games line WoW or RS are very important to people even now.

outer pollen
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It’ll always have a special place as much as I love to bash on it

bleak pike
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We all have a special game we can't fully let go of.

bleak pike
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It's a game I've always loved deep down but at the same hated and can't recommend to anyone.

outer pollen
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I remember for Witch Queen I maxed out the faction rank in one night doing a stupid chest glitch lol

bleak pike
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Witch queen is my favorite expansion

outer pollen
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Destiny will always be the series that could have had a lot of potential if Bungie had done something with it

bleak pike
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Ye

outer pollen
bleak pike
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That's what makes it so frustrating

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It's an amazing game that doesn't actually get any treatment until they have no choice.

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And when they do it's a blast

bleak pike
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The story journey for me has to be solo haha

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Ever since d1

outer pollen
bleak pike
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It's MY story

outer pollen
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lol

bleak pike
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People found Savathun so difficult but honestly

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I found it pretty easy

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Even when I did it again in a group

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I think I do my best work when solo and I just kinda become relaxed and casual in a group unless it was flawless/master/pantheon

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Bro Im not kidding, I did pantheon on my steam deck streaming from home.

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I still don't know how

cold anvil
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Now that destiny’s gone we’re ALLL moving to warframe, amirightguyz????

bleak pike
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This was my view

outer pollen
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I don’t think anything will ever fill the Destiny vacuum

cold anvil
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Dw on everyone’s soul here they stopped destiny 2 to make destiny 3

bleak pike
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I always come back for a burst of a week or two and get annoyed hahah

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Sometimes a month or so

cold anvil
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I play every once in a while, never enough to make meaningful progress but I like the thought of making progress lmao

bleak pike
outer pollen
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I remember when we were doing Grasp of Avarice flawless and my friend killed my other friend by swinging his sword at him and killing him against a wall with the momentum

bleak pike
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So so so much

outer pollen
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I remember on Mars we would all pull out the telesto and shoot people to make their game crash so we could get as many of our clan members to do the escalation protocols lol

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Escalation Protocol was so fun imo

proper basin
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Slammin afk raid members into the wall with swords just to see if theyd go flying or die

bleak pike
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Nothing more fun than obliterating my fire teams spines because I sworded them against a wall

cold anvil
proper basin
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Over 9 hours in day one deep stone hearing STATUS: CALAMITOUS in your sleep after all was said and done

outer pollen
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Bungie the company that had it all but their greed blinded them

bleak pike
cold anvil
bleak pike
proper basin
bleak pike
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Context for anyone, always sounds like Clovis is saying gender re assessment

latent oracle
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unreal 6 announced fake or not chat?

proper basin
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That boss was a WALL

bleak pike
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I gave up

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Oh wait caretaker was a different raid

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I didn't attempt it as I was taking a break

proper basin
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Ye thatwas vow

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Outbreak perfected shined very bright for that encounter

bleak pike
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Deep stone I gave up after 14 hours because we always had one spot people kept leaving.

proper basin
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Yeah for dsc we stopped at atraks

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But vow we got to rhulk

bleak pike
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We did VoW flawless the other day for a team mate.

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Pretty easy now lol

proper basin
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Such a good raid

bleak pike
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It really is

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Rhulk was better than witness imo

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Witness had less personality than atrax

proper basin
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Never got to go that raid sadly

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Only raid i didnt complete

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And i beat day 1 ron lol

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Did that one with lfg

mellow garden
latent oracle
cold anvil
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One moment

mellow garden
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Could already tell it was Calsy with that reaction without mousing over the emote om

hardy merlin
bleak pike
outer pollen
quartz wing
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i love my wooting

green dune
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Huh, is Steam having issues today?

small comet
green dune
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That's very slow.

small comet
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oh i see the sonic game is downloading too fast

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yeah i wonder why its not slower tbh

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would save a lot of souls from the gruesomeness of these games

green dune
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Yeah Steam's CDN is just kind of slow today, how strange.

small comet
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sonic 3d games should legally be limited to 25kbps download speeds

scarlet sail
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make it 28.8kbit/s to get that 90s feeling

bleak pike
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Warframe in a nutshell tbh

narrow junco
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nekros moment

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what mission is this Arksus

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it says conduit so i thought disruption but i dont think there's a ||spoiler planet|| disruption mission

bleak pike
narrow junco
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ah

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i never do syndicate so it makes sense i didnt know what that is

bleak pike
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im trying to make a archwing wep

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the schematics are sold by syndicates

narrow junco
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why not just use mausolon

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or kuva grattler

bleak pike
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because i used google

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im struggling on a mission so i need a new wep xd

narrow junco
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i see

bleak pike
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also im after a melel

narrow junco
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i got mausolon and it was good enough for all content i want to do with archwing

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ah

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yeah i just shoot everything OMEGALUL

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maybe a little overkill

bleak pike
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nvm its a gun

bleak pike
narrow junco
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ah

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well

bleak pike
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my artch setup is a joke

narrow junco
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that is a bit of a problem

bleak pike
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im just struggling to kill a golum

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@narrow juncoIs helios prime shit these days? i never see anyone use it

narrow junco
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yeah i ran out of things to min max

narrow junco
bleak pike
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lol you can help me kill this boss if ya want

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xd

narrow junco
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this is best companion tho

narrow junco
bleak pike
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MrPleasant_exe#988

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ill

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@narrow juncoit seems finishing that quest unlocked the deadlock protocol so your timing with advice was impeccable lol

narrow junco
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very nice

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yeah i try to refrain from giving too much specific advice but that one bothers me cause selling that item is such a bad mistake and it's such an easy mistake to make

bleak pike
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Had to stop playing, it reached 29c in my office.

narrow junco
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understandable

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i should open my windows wide

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but i am listening to music (loud) so i dont wanna get up from my chair

bleak pike
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I have cats so i cant haha

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only up until the safety lock

narrow junco
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yeah understandable

novel umbra
novel umbra
bleak pike
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But also i meant more sitting there and doing nothing because powers

novel umbra
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Not even good for that

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Your mirage is way lower maintenanve for much more kills in that clip for example

green dune
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Is it possible to make Sonic Adventure 2 run at a higher framerate than 60?

scarlet sail
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be glad it's even running at 60 instead of being hardwired to 30, going by how it's a port/remake/whatever of a 25 year old game šŸ˜„

green dune
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:|

pure bear
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a framegenerator could be used on it ig

green dune
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That wouldn't make anything better.

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How about anything to do about the bug in Neon White where it won't always capture the cursor?

proper basin
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Mods are the way i believe

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Dunno if sa2 gets funky with higher frame rates like unleashed does

green dune
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That's a latter game, so probably.

green dune
tawny sable
narrow junco
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What about it

sudden prawn
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pulsar prism
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Yeah saw that

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Kinda crazy

outer pollen
outer pollen
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She’s so cool

grizzled quarry
vivid wharf
grizzled quarry
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perfectly executed and intended backflip

narrow junco
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@ivory dune titania build, can swap preparation for power drift and higher level pistoleer would be good, i just dont have one atm

ivory dune
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Thanks

narrow junco
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pistol build, this assumes you are using archon continuity

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||archon shards are: 2g for + max corro stacks, 1r for + str , 1 yellow for cast speed, 1 orange for shield gain on blast kill (idk if this one is that good, i was testing it at the time)||

narrow junco
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up to you

ivory dune
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I don't even have shards unlocked yet

narrow junco
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yeah dont worry about that yet

quiet vault
stiff fiber
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UK is a crazy country

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they have a special day for banks?

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šŸ¤”

small comet
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i think they started as like days the bank was closed by law and are now just public holidays like christmas, easter etc

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banks close on those days in other countries as well

stiff fiber
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yeah but in france it is because it is a catholic holiday

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in other countries too I think

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having a public holiday for bank seems so odd to me

fringe salmon
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That’s… that’s not what bank holiday means

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As Tony said it’s a colloquial term for every day that banks are closed outside the regular week schedule

hardy merlin
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Don't think about it, enjoy day off PPalLazy

mellow garden
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I, for one, am enjoying the extra paid day off of work.

pure bear
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i for one am melting

stiff fiber
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but what are people celebrating on bank day?

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nothing?

quiet vault
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😭

pure bear
vapid lintel
pure bear
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christmas is a bank holiday

vapid lintel
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That one is celebrating Yule, this one is celebrating the weather

pure bear
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dropping a yule log

vapid lintel
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Just did thanks

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Late start to the day = late coffee = late Yule logs

outer pollen
buoyant osprey
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I finished Gothic 1. It's a good game though the second half is nowhere good as the first

scarlet sail
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best part is, that those jocks are calling it "donations" when in reality it's targeted milking of investors and gamers alike šŸ˜„

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but if they can really write it off as donations it would end up tax free, which makes the entire matter even worse

vapid lintel
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Donations are only tax free to specific types of charities, if I recall correctly 501c

scarlet sail
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pretty much all i know about donation/gift taxation šŸ˜…

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if the scam citicen devs actually get taxed over it tho, then it's all the better in my book, yea

fringe salmon
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nobodys calling it donations anyway..

scarlet sail
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well, that X post clearly did

fringe salmon
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yeah, so nobody havo

scarlet sail
#

šŸ˜…

fringe salmon
#

twitter posters arent real people

outer pollen
# vapid lintel Scam Citizen

I remember when I worked with that guy who was bragging to me about having spent like 1K or 2K on a ship. I just stared at him like I didn’t know what Star Citizen was

scarlet sail
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ok, WTF google, since when is this a thing? O_o

pure bear
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years

scarlet sail
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pfft ok, never saw this strange animated ball icon here in the search results until today and i've been looking up some pokemon every other month or so to check some stats or whatever SwitchyThink

cold anvil
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The ace sound is so good

proper basin
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Val :(

little cape
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the devil and his temptations SwitchyUltraMad

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lowkey i would still be playing val if the trash anti cheat didnt try to break my system every time i launched the game (Back when i was on my am4 build)

cold anvil
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I don’t think I’ve had a single issue with the anti chat

little cape
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for example

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needing to restart the system when you launch the game

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every val player has done it

cold anvil
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Yeah that is true, I haven’t had the pop up in ages though

little cape
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fair

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i remember it being a huge thing in 2022 or 2023

cold anvil
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Its more of a minor inconvenience if anything imo

little cape
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yeah

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not a huge issue but definitely annoying

cold anvil
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No for sure I understand

little cape
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same PTSD as signing into third party launcher when i bought the game on steam

cold anvil
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Also idk how people have so many interferences with vanguard, just don’t have the anti cheat open 😭

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ā€œErm.. guys.. Bf6 is telling me to uninstall valorant….ā€MAYBE DON’T TRY TO HAVE 2 GAMES OPEN AT ONCE YOU BRAINDEAD MORON

little cape
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could be anti virus or vpn in the background

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who knows tbh

compact oriole
fringe salmon
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no the issue is vanguard is active even when the game is closed

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because it has to be started on sytem boot

compact oriole
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was gonna say. that root kit is running all the time

fringe salmon
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though that was iirc only an issue during beta, so now its only showing that error when the game truly is open

little cape
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how dare they when my pc is trying to POST

fringe salmon
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ah yeah I was mixing up vanguard and the cod anti cheat fighting bf6

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vanguard never had it if valorant wasnt open, nvm

cold anvil
little cape
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also annoyed its been like 6 years and I never got my yearly stats..... SwitchyUltraMad

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devs too busy moaning in game chat

fringe salmon
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but yeah, seems like you do infact need to have the game active for bf6 to not work, so uh, yeah not an issue

cold anvil
cold anvil
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Some people may not like it

little cape
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"You listen here you little auto tune temu T-Pain-"

compact oriole
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after having hung out in vr chat talking about phantom sense for 3 hours they move to val

compact oriole
#

thats the next level

little cape
#

phantom pain maxxing

hardy merlin
#

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little cape
#

imagine

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okay chat imagine

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releasing another engine when your current slop hasnt been out for more than 4 years

scarlet sail
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couldn't be epic, right? šŸ˜„

little cape
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its okay though! Since its coming to rocket league you can have frame drops while flying through the air smile

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well current counter argument could be "the devs need to learn how to utilize the tools and optimize their games ā˜ļø šŸ¤“ "

fringe salmon
#

? its basically the same timeline as form ue4 to ue5

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6 years after launch they tease the next one, then 2 years later the first engine build becomes available to people

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in tandem with console launch cycle

hardy merlin
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I mean there's a lot of well optimized games on UE5
No matter what, if you give a good carpenter a hammer to drive screws in, you can't expect a good final product, and that's what PMs and execs want from game devs nowadays

fringe salmon
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how tf did it copy the link beneath the twitter link I coped

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this site is becoming worse and worse as well each day

little cape
fringe salmon
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arc raiders

hardy merlin
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Satisfactory neko_lurk

cyan pewter
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val but dont touch the cancer SideEye

hardy merlin
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Split Fiction runs on UE5 too

little cape
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ty for reminding me i gotta play that

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it takes two was PEAK co-op

cold anvil
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I @ā€˜d you

cyan pewter
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and whyd they add buttplugs to the bundle

cold anvil
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I think the new bundle looks

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It all depends on price tbh

cyan pewter
cold anvil
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If it’s anywhere near kuronami 2.0 prices that’s just a big no 😭

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It should be premium rarity

cyan pewter
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recon hits different but this doesnt have that effect

cold anvil
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I think the rogue bundle looks clean

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And finally more bandit skins 😭

compact oriole
vapid lintel
compact oriole
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was ok

vapid lintel
little cape
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rn we grinding dune and i just researched the dune buggy

compact oriole
vapid lintel
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It implies both

compact oriole
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aight then theres no issues with ue5 agmes. just play it on 3x5 pixels and put everything to low

cold anvil
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I think. Ue5. Should be easy to work with. And more optimized. Off the bat. When developers start a project. SwitchyClueless

compact oriole
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im coping that ue6 means that the tech theyve been adding on over time will be better integrated and run more efficient from the get go or smth COPIUM

vapid lintel
cold anvil
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Can’t wait for the oblivion remastered ue6 update

compact oriole
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no shit if i leave out lumen, the game runs better

fringe salmon
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they dont use lumen and nanite? thats not the only features of ue5

vapid lintel
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The dev's job is to make games look good and run good, whether or not all the bell's and whistles are utilized is immaterial

fringe salmon
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like, you can remove lumen and nanite and ue5 is still substrantially different than ue4

cold anvil
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I love oblivion remastered so much, if the game ran like 20% better it would’ve been good enough for me 😭

little cape
fringe salmon
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the engine isnt even out for another 2 years for non epic projects

vapid lintel
compact oriole
cold anvil
little cape
little cape
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all i know is halo ce remake is garbage

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there will be hell to pay

cold anvil
vapid lintel
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That's not assured

cold anvil
vapid lintel
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It's already struggling

compact oriole
vapid lintel
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On the metric of revenue received verse spent, which is the only metric that matters to the game

cold anvil
# vapid lintel It's already struggling

I personally think fortnite has struggled countless times and always somehow manage to get back on their feet, they fired those employees for no reason though idk why they did that

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Probably ai

little cape
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valorant just upgraded to ue5 too no? lmfao

vapid lintel
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Because the game was burning more cash paying developers compared to microtransaction sales

cold anvil
fringe salmon
little cape
cold anvil
cold anvil
vapid lintel
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Ergo, there's no guarantee that it will be around for the next decade

cold anvil
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I mean yeah

vapid lintel
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Which is a shame, because then the gaming community is going to have to find a new game to leave the kids at daycare with while the adults go play other games

little cape
cold anvil
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The children yearn for the mines

little cape
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cough Destiny 2 cough

vapid lintel
little cape
cold anvil
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But heyyy play marathon right now!! And you get nothing in return

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Your favorite game is gone for good!

sinful cobalt
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@lone cosmos havo

cold anvil
lone cosmos
cold anvil
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I am so sorry for your wallet

lone cosmos
cold anvil
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I don’t mind cod games I just don’t like how quick they are to move on

lone cosmos
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black ops is every 3-4 years and modernwarfare is every 1-2 years iirc

cold anvil
lone cosmos
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i always use key sites rather than direct purchases from steam etc

cold anvil
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If it’s something minor or something I’m not truly confident in sure but if there’s a steam sale going on or if it’s a game I really care about I don’t mind using steam

sinful cobalt
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i mean i bought the game on winter sale

lone cosmos
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always look for the sales

sinful cobalt
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plus BO7 is pretty much MW23

fringe salmon