🎮│game

[vapid lintel]

Sure

[little cape]

mr akbar speaking facts

[vapid lintel]

I'm not against updates at all, I'm against people trusting in them

[scarlet sail]

or you simply adapted to todays standards or forgot how games back in the day NEEDED to be shipped in working condition with developer paid closed betas to make sure of that, meanwhile the customer is also replacing paid testers nowadays, which is yet another corner most studios are cutting yet not delivering the saved costs to the customer

[proper basin]

unless your from bethesda

[hot spire]

my guy i play games made 4 decades ago weekly

[hot spire]

yeah morrowind is one of those games XD

[verbal nymph]

I just play rhythm game, most of them are old and the update usually work as paid dlc, but at least the base game is filled with enough song/content to satisfy me to buy da dlc while being worth the initial purchase.

[scarlet sail]

then you should see a clear difference to the slop that get's sold as "premium stuffs" nowadays

[hardy merlin]

• digital distribution instead of physical one
• in most studios a lot of in-house work is being done by 3rd party, for example engine, as a lot of games just uses UE5
• wages are stagnant, and in most cases costs of development went most likely even down, because majority of the work is done by a contractors, to whom company doesn't pay any benefits and for whom they don't pay any taxes
• and with wider availabilty of tools and ease of access there's way more developers now, so wages go down again
• and ease of use of tools means there's less need for specialists, so employment costs go down again
  Inflation only argument is very shallow and doesn't stick there, because game dev market is nothing like it was during N64 days

[hot spire]

again stop buying shitty games XD

[scarlet sail]

i'm not even buying most games anymore simply because 90% of the games out there are shit and need to be actually tested before spending and if the game proved to be worth my time i buy them

[hot spire]

then play the 10% and stop compaining about the 90%

shitty games have always been around, its just easy to get them now

[unique bane]

95% games are shit not because theyre badly made or dont look good.. It's just that they lack vision, soul, call it whatever you want.

[scarlet sail]

finding the 10% good ones can be a struggle of it's own, finding the few titles in that bunch that actually fit your genre preferences is another can of worms 😅

[unique bane]

This is the decade of remakes/reboots

[fringe salmon]

I mean I didnt say it should cost 105$, but aside from physical distribution everything else is still costing more, even if you outsource 90% of the development those devs arent getting paid minimum wage either and the rest is just mostly neutral because better tools just means you get to do more stuff rather than purely saving the cost

wages are not 1:1 with inflation but they are very much not stagnant lol

[scarlet sail]

you seem to forget that developing games has gotten substantially easier compared to 2-3 decades ago thanks to a crapton of development tools that do huge chunks of the job

[hot spire]

nah

[fringe salmon]

yeah it get 50% easier and you need to do 250% more work total because you need more content

[hot spire]

you used to be able to sell games made in basic

[fringe salmon]

yes you dont need 15 expert coders anymore because now you have 5 coders and 150 artists to make a modern game

[unique bane]

Wages are stagnant, but that doesn't mean they haven't followed inflation. They have just stagnated real purchasing power wise and the their gap to productivity is getting wider every year

[hot spire]

you forget all the rpgmaker and game stuido slop in the 90s

then all the source engine slops

[verbal nymph]

da doom clone

[fringe salmon]

if a game is shit yes it doesnt deserve a higher price tag but uh, if we take an arbitrary average game these days vs back then yes the cost to make it has gone up, even excluding the insane outlier of GTA and such

[hot spire]

there has always been slop

[ivory dune]

As someone who works in the industry. Really?

[hot spire]

the main issue is all the best games are passion projects and the larger the team the hard it is to get that passion

[scarlet sail]

ok, you want it that way then also count in the 5-10 times higher sales amounts and no need to pay for cd/dvd/bd printing, packaging AND paying store cuts, which all got reduced to just digital store cuts which are WAY less than the complete physical route 😅

[orchid prism]

RPGMaker is still going strong.

[ivory dune]

Tools and advances in technology have not "substantially made it easier". That's utter ignorance to even say such

[hot spire]

steams/ms/sony/nin digtal cut isnt low

[scarlet sail]

tell me any studio that had access to even a fraction of the nice tools that are literally standard environments nowadays

[hardy merlin]

If you go by statistics, then sure, but there's one thing about average and median wages
And also form of employment, having a stable contract in game dev nowadays is like finding golden Wonka ticket
In most cases devs and especially artists are now on salary - studio doesn't care about benefits, about taxes, about insurance, even about overtime, because they are being paid agreed upon amount no matter how much time they put in
So statistic wages are one thing, real employment costs are very much different thing

[vapid lintel]

Y'all are arguing past each other about prices, cost, and how times have changed when the reality is that there has never been a point in time when games were generally made to the standards you expect. You have rose tinted glasses, looking nostalgically back at the best of history while actively suppressing memories of the garbage.

There will always be business whose primary motivation is profit, which becomes apparent in the lack of effort and care put into developing them. Similarly, there will always be businesses whose primary motivation is creating something beautiful, which becomes apparent in the overwhelming passion and love put into developing them.

[fringe salmon]

I know I already said that int he beginning when I said from the 105 inflation adjusted value we can subtract some amount for that since now its just the 30% steam cut

[ivory dune]

You do realise the tools don't magically create games, right?

[hot spire]

you can make games today with the same tools as 20 years go

and it will be just as fun if the game is good

[verbal nymph]

90's game can be released/shared with a piece of floppy disk. Unless it has video, it doesn't need CD.

[scarlet sail]

far lower than the price for CD/DVD/BD printing, packaging AND 30% retailer share, steam has max 30% retailer share and no other costs involved, if you sell well enough the share goes down to 20% even

[scarlet sail]

sure, but they make it quite a lot less time consuming

[hot spire]

not they arent

[hardy merlin]

Why the latter is seemingly an anomaly nowadays though...

[ivory dune]

The fact you claim it's just easier and less time consuming is idiotic. You are literally criticizing my job with zero knowledge on the subject

[hot spire]

unless you are using ai vibe code and assets

[vapid lintel]

It was anomalous back then, too

[fringe salmon]

yes but its not like 2022 still had most sales as physical copies, this was a thing that dropped price like after the N64 cartridges and in the years coming after, that isnt a factor that keeps lowering cost every year anymore

[vapid lintel]

Though the barrier to entry has dropped which does contribute to the sheer volume of shit

[unique bane]

Look game dev has definitely gotten easier, but requirements have grown so now u instead spend 100000x on polish and overall graphics, sound etc.

So a lot more total edits

[hot spire]

no it really hasnt

[unique bane]

ofc it has gotten more expensive

[scarlet sail]

oh so having macros for most commonly used syntax, auto correction and error finding etc isn't making it far easier than having to type everything manually and then check every single digit manually as well? 🤔

[hardy merlin]

Anyway
I go and will have a nice evemimg
Fuck late stage capitalism, love ya all

[ivory dune]

If anything, it's gotten much harder to create a AAA game. The knowledge required to control these tools alone is exponentially larger

[fringe salmon]

I mean I mostly just think its funny the 60$ price tag had been arbitrarily chosen as the definitive price and decided as something that should always be the right price

[hot spire]

very few 90s games are floppy size

doom 1993 is 4 floppies

[ivory dune]

I'm done with you dude, you make the most asinine assumptions.

[verbal nymph]

I see, maybe I mistaken it for 80's and older

[unique bane]

As opposed to making your own engine while creating the game and hardcoding everything? big doubt

They were for a reason passion projects

[fringe salmon]

its not making it easier its a necessity for these big projects to even be doable these days

[hot spire]

myst was the best selling game in 1993 and it was cdrom

[ivory dune]

I assure you it is. But hey lets keep criticizing someone elses job without knowledge on the subject.

[scarlet sail]

careful, he'll block you as well for having a clear opinion that isn't aligning with his "my job keeps getting harder" attitude

[unique bane]

Yeah expectations have gone up hence the need for the tools

[fringe salmon]

cdpr isnt going from red engine to ue5 because its making it easier, its because they would not be able to make witcher4 and the following up games anymore if they had to maintain their engine

[unique bane]

None of that have made the games better lol, just better looking

[fringe salmon]

yes it helps but at no point is it making it easier than it has bene in the past

[ivory dune]

This alone leads me to believe you know squat man. An engine isn't just a drag a model in and done.

[hot spire]

you can 100% release a 20+ year old looking game today and sell well

even 30 year old

[unique bane]

oke bruv

[hot spire]

you still have to make it a good game

[orchid prism]

I'd argue graphics mean less today than it used to. The gameplay is key - story even.

[hot spire]

shit dosent have to be aaa to sell a 100k copies these days

[ivory dune]

I agree. Wholeheartedly

[hot spire]

like d1 was 30 years ago

any game that looks that good can sell

[fringe salmon]

we have tools that allow more people to make games yes, and lower budget can now make something, but the big games that need to set a non 30$ pricepoint have not become easier to make

[orchid prism]

I believe it. If an indie dev made a Diablo 1 inspired game that looked and played similar, it would have a cult following.

[fringe salmon]

obviously if we are talking about games at the highest price point it makes 0 sense to now add in comparisons with games a single dev makes that gets an indie following

[hot spire]

unreal is only 28 years old

[verbal nymph]

fr, if super mario bros is released on steam today rather than back then for $10 I guess, I'll still enjoy it

[hot spire]

indie now is 100k+ copeis though

some times millions

[fringe salmon]

doesnt matter thats not what this was about

[hot spire]

goty 30 years ago was a million

[ivory dune]

It was about "It's easier", for me

It's easier to make absolute slop, maybe

If you ask Grok to write it for you

[ivory dune]

Half Life my beloved

[unique bane]

Somehow the AAA or the 100's of millions havent changed how much a game has content (usually 50 hours or so), so where is the cash going? I dont need realtime raytraced quantum animations and quantum-timed music/sounds that psychologist timed to get maximum dopamines from me

[scarlet sail]

yet we got grim dawn which could essentially be called D3 but in good and it's an indie title^^

[verbal nymph]

So like, it's easier to make slop game today than back then, but it's harder to make non-slop game today than back then.

[fringe salmon]

if the point is should AAA cost 60$ or more then how easy it is to make vampire survivors doesnt matter because thats not relevant to the main point

[hot spire]

its the same

its easier to PUBLISH a slop and market it

its the same to make it

[ivory dune]

It's literally the same difficulty to create a good game

[verbal nymph]

Okay I see, good to see clarification

[ivory dune]

The times have just changed how we make them

[unique bane]

AND NO improvement to the amount of content in 30 years

[fringe salmon]

accesibilty to enter has gotten lower and making indie stuff has gotten easier yes

[ivory dune]

I can't write the game with my knowledge like they did 30 years ago

But those people 30 years ago can't make what I make either

With their knowledge

[unique bane]

give me an example what u make that cannot be made then?

[ivory dune]

I worked on BG3

Why do I have to explain myself to you, who just called my job easier

[unique bane]

u claimed this

its jusst all words then ig

[hot spire]

carmak could porbly XD

[ivory dune]

I am a technical artist. I create the intermediary pipeline between the artists and the programmers. Specifically, I worked on the landscapes of BG3 and how they are made, laid out and how the different assets come together to form a seamless entity

Bg3 isn't just a box with entities placed into it like HL1 or DOOM

They are the games that got me started on my careerpath back then and I adore them

And no, I cannot make them from scratch

[buoyant osprey]

Have you ever played BG1/2?

[ivory dune]

Yeah

[fringe salmon]

nah carmak is too busy larping as le epic redpiller on twitter

[unique bane]

See, overall graphics & expectations. Some rando nerd developer back in 90s coded everything from graphics to landscapes to non-seamless loading between zones and gameplay

[ivory dune]

I can do that, hell, I went to university for learning how to do that

[unique bane]

But yeah they couldnt do exactly what you do 😛

[ivory dune]

Am I ground zero dev? No, not at all. And I adore and look up to each and every veteran in the industry

[unique bane]

I'm just mad there is no improvement to the amount of content for $50 in 3 decades despite hunders of millions of more budget.

[ivory dune]

But saying it's easier or harder, they don't even themselves agree with your statement

Since a lot of these devs are still working on stuff to this day, they too, evolved

It's not a curve of difficulty, it's a timeline

I do however apoligise for coming at you like that

I realise my reaction, written, is more aggro than I'd like to be

And that's on me

[unique bane]

No need, no offense taken. I'm more to blame for taking offensive at someone's job.

Game developer is mostly a thankless job so thanks for keeping at it 😄

[ivory dune]

It's also a fun job if you're in the right position

I enjoy relative freedom and can be somewhat picky about my jobs, which is a luxury my colleagues in full-on stylised art do not have

They are fighting with a dozen for a single job opening unfortunately

I think any job sucks atm, to even get into one

It's rough out there

[unique bane]

Definitely, times are rough seems everywhere

[proper basin]

@orchid prism in the finals

[orchid prism]

[bleak pike]

https://insider-gaming.com/rockstar-confirms-data-breach-says-theres-no-impact-on-company-or-players/

Lol

Not as bad as last time apparently though

[serene orbit]

Wonder how much they have to actually defend themselves against cyber criminals lol

[hot spire]

third party means it wasnt R

it was a thirdparty that had access to R data and that third party got hacked

[mellow garden]

Lord of the Tar Lake has been slain

Reasonably fun Giant BT fight in Death Stranding 2

Keep on keeping on

[orchid prism]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTZHtlzz6Ng
I really need to get into Songs of Syx. It's like the bastard child of Rimworld and Dwarf Fortress.

[vapid lintel]

Yearning for the mines, eh?

[orchid prism]

[mellow garden]

Absolute sent a Fall Guys round

Won

I’m the superior bean

[vapid lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/banana-dance-gif-5477721

[ivory dune]

Johners going insane after quitting wow

[mellow garden]

I'm genuinely still tilted

Doesn't help that Arsenal lost

April curse once again

Gonna bottle a 9 point lead

[young hill]

3 days til final atomic heart expansion

[pure bear]

i would love to dig a mine in my backyard

sadly i have soft silky lil artist hands that bruise easily 😔

[cold anvil]

Just get a big machine to do it for you

[stiff fiber]

Honestly arc is an issue for my gaming life

I play so much this game that I forget to play everything else

I should just uninstall it for some month

[novel estuary]

Bonus points if you manage to get your country to move your neighborhood because of the mining operations

[pure bear]

you're gonna give me an excavator for my birthday?

[cold anvil]

Yeah sure let me get done with it first

https://tenor.com/view/colinfurze-colinfurze-spin-colinfurze-digger-gif-8988692068592161404

[hardy merlin]

If ya want a good co-op, have spare 4 hours and 2€ - this, holy shit, amazing game https://store.steampowered.com/app/1801110/BOKURA/

Steam

BOKURA

Are you and I really seeing the world the same way?

An exclusively two-player puzzle adventure game that makes you question your reality.…

Price

$1.64

Recommendations

10142

[maiden tulip]

i like coop

Is it couch coop or online or both @hardy merlin

like do i need 2 copies

[mellow garden]

You should finish Death Stranding

[maiden tulip]

I never played that

And i got it for free

[hardy merlin]

Online/LAN co-op, you need 2 copies

Many of game mechanics rely on it too

[maiden tulip]

its annoying how so many games dont have local coop anymore

[vapid lintel]

I just picked up two copies, let's see

[maiden tulip]

But its basically 2 copies for the price of 1

[hardy merlin]

The game mechanics kinda work in a way that you can't play couch co-op

[maiden tulip]

I see

[hot spire]

my dad rented one for my 8th birthday, but i had to install the new driveway rocks

[vapid lintel]

Fun game, cool concept and curious story

Got about halfway but getting sleepy

[scarlet sail]

speaking about cool games, in case any of you is interested in ARPG/survival games i can warmly recommend getting soulmask, for about 1 month they're offering a 1.0 release discount and are packing their major DLC (which is effectively a full expansion) on top for free 😇

[cold anvil]

There’s something peculiar about this screenshot…

[fathom swift]

Why, is something breaking? not in a bad way necessarily

[stiff fiber]

ok I just uninstalled arc raiders I will go back to it in some months

this game take me too many time and I dont play other games

[orchid prism]

Welp... Draenor's Garrison system is bugged. Guess my Warlock won't be doing any leveling today then 😄

[mellow garden]

🏛️ 🚬

[stiff fiber]

Ok I play beyond good and evil such a beautiful game 😍

I love the characters the story the universe

[hasty belfry]

One of the worst things they ever added to the game, you spent entire expansion inside the Garrison...

[orchid prism]

Right now I can't spend any. Cause I can't use it

[hardy merlin]

Kojima while doing motion capture for DS: - Hmmm, yes, make sure that the camera is right in Margaret's face, we have to capture everything, every single smallest movement, she will constantly zoomed in to whole screen during her cutscenes

[mellow garden]

He does this with feet

Elle Fanning's feet make several full screen appearances in the second game

[hardy merlin]

Of course he does

Also 16 hours in and I just discovered that map UI moves along with gyro in DualSense

[fading spade]

O.o

[cold anvil]

I feel like a child waiting for christmas as I wait fo that new Tomodachi Life Game

[grizzled bramble]

Kinda excited over the Mouse game which is releasing soon
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2416450/MOUSE_PI_For_Hire/

Steam

MOUSE: P.I. For Hire

MOUSE: P.I. For Hire is an action-packed first-person shooter that draws inspiration from the classic cartoons of the 1930s. Its black and white rubber hose visuals are drawn by hand, frame by frame, delivering a striking vintage aesthetic. Unravel layers of corruption with a thrilling noir-fueled detective story, lively environments to ex…

Price

$29.99

Release Date

Apr 16, 2026

Welp got a ban for spamming games, the ones I linked was Moomintroll : Winter's warmth , Jigrift & No wings required, if someone like such games

[bleak pike]

It's looking great

It took to long XD

[cold anvil]

Something else comes that day too.

[cold anvil]

Yeah I was expecting it to come out much sooner but it looks like development only started as soon as the copyright disappeared

[bleak pike]

Aye, it'll be the first game I might buy on release or well a few days after cos reviews, usually I just wait for sales lol

[cold anvil]

Im sure there will be a release sale goin for it

[cold anvil]

The first game I got on release was Pokemon Moon all the way back in 2016

I was but a wee boy

[bleak pike]

I should say the first game in a long time

I don't count dlc

[grizzled bramble]

Would buy the Mouse game day one but I've got some work related stuff going but might be able to play during the weekend

[bleak pike]

The first steam game I got on release was tomb raider I think, I played at midnight, didn't sleep and went to college.

Same with BioShock infinite but I um didn't buy that one oops

[cold anvil]

Dude I got nothing going on for like the next 2-4 weeks, I’m waiting to see if I get accepted into Uni

[bleak pike]

I have nothing going on but depression stops me

[cold anvil]

[bleak pike]

Oh and kitties

[cold anvil]

Kitty :D

[hardy merlin]

Ohnooooo, now MULEs have guns, they are bad terrororists, ohnooooo
I have a better name for them - roadkill

[bleak pike]

What

[hardy merlin]

How come trucks are just horses from Skyrim

[cold anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/jackass-donkey-funny-funny-animals-funny-donkeys-gif-5309728

[hardy merlin]

Deamth Strandimg

[cold anvil]

I see your name every time I clean my keyboard

[little cape]

i wonder what would give you that idea

[bleak pike]

Yo where's my invite

[little cape]

https://tenor.com/view/wizarding-world-harry-potter-jk-rowling-warner-bros-pictures-hogwarts-acceptance-letter-gif-25739222

also got this mod

https://tenor.com/view/scooby-doo-scooby-doo-where-are-you-hanna-barbera-productions-cbs-scooby-dooby-doo-gif-2286207465677491436

[compact oriole]

what?

[cold anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/mii-miis-nintendo-tomodachi-life-tomodachi-collection-gif-12667921229167014517

[maiden tulip]

@outer pollen https://youtu.be/Wsf1jVeBVXU?si=7hC79Ap_HOxTU8ya

[mellow garden]

Doesn't solve all the problems when they're still expensive

Plus slower than internal storage by a mile

@ivory dune we killed Belo'ren HC

[bleak pike]

Ur slower

[mellow garden]

No

[scarlet sail]

i'm honestly still surprised that there's still people giving the slightest damn about that cancerous console company to begin with, like every console of them is basically on par with decade old hardware and most of their efforts actually go to their lawsuits instead of getting any decent games out (or at least slightly improving older series instead of making them worse and worse)

[mellow garden]

I like Nintendo games

[ivory dune]

Me too

[compact oriole]

i dont like nintendo either. id say some of their games theyve been making are actually good. but if you dont give a shit about the mobile hardware factor then youre right. its just shitty hardware

from what ive seen i think almost anything pkmn related is hot garbage tho

not counting ditto game cz ive not seen anything about it

[scarlet sail]

honestly, they kept milking the series without ever getting any kind of innovation actually making it better, like ever since gen2 it was a slow but sure downwards spiral that kept going faster the longer it went on

[compact oriole]

its crazy the biggest franchise in the world makes games worse than indie productions

[verbal nymph]

Old hardware is fine as long as the game is fun. Cant say that for pokemon but at least other seems fine.

[scarlet sail]

eh, can't say that any of their other exclusive games did fare any better in my opinion and every non-exclusive game plays far better on literally any other platform 🤷‍♂️

[stiff fiber]

Let’s be honest apart from botw a long time ago what really amazing thing nintendo done?

[scarlet sail]

their track record of underhanded lawsuits^^

[stiff fiber]

Yeah for years now they do not produce amazing game anymore

[scarlet sail]

like filing patents AFTER the competition already has an established game, still gotta wonder who they must have bribed to get those patents they tried to sue palworld with, since they clearly filed them right before the lawsuit instead of having them before palworld existed

[stiff fiber]

They really felt badly

[proper basin]

Xenoblade is still some of the best jrpg series currently

[stiff fiber]

Apart from the nostalgie of people offering a switch to their children I dont see why nintendo is doing so well

[proper basin]

Cals dont you no me

I SPEAK TRUTH

[stiff fiber]

Sure if I had children I would prefer them to play zelda than gta but there are not the company of years ago

[compact oriole]

yall just ready to shit on nintendo cz dashi aint here

[hardy merlin]

XC3 dialogues though
Or JRPGs overall

[scarlet sail]

just get them something like stardew valley instead and get them accustomed to PC instead of any of those inferior hardware DRM boxes that press money out of their customers wherever they can (best example needing a sub for basic online functionality) 😅

[verbal nymph]

Rhythm game on switch is quite nice. Although maybe lacking in content compared to their android/ios version, it has none of the mobile game pains that I hate.

[compact oriole]

emulators

[proper basin]

Do you actually mean 3 or do you mean 2 cause xenoblade 3s dialogue is far more consistent

[lone cosmos]

wii bowling was peak

[scarlet sail]

that as well, but i wouldn't want my kids to go straight for that, but if i'd want to play any nopetendo game at all emus would be my #1 choice as well^^

[proper basin]

Rhythm heaven soon

[hardy merlin]

XC2 is in a class of its own, it's beyond all JRPGs

[proper basin]

That is true it has zeke

HANDLING A MANS TURTLE

https://tenor.com/view/xenoblade2-turters-zeke-gif-13831246

[stiff fiber]

Yeah it would work too

[verbal nymph]

I would go for nintendo since at least I can be half assured children wont be exposed to gambling on roblox. Plus I can curate games for them. Not fool proof though, but at least I can easily see/understand what they're playing.

[proper basin]

At most they get addicted to fortnite

[stiff fiber]

Yeah nintendo is way more secure for children tbh

[compact oriole]

i mean.. you could also curate them not being on roblox

[hardy merlin]

When I was a kid I just got a cheap PC, because it was justified that it's needed for school stuff
None of that consoles things
So I was 6, the only games I had on PC were GTA:SA, CS Condition Zero and NFS Hot Pursuit 2

[scarlet sail]

you could also curate their games on steam, add them to your family and bam, they only gotta play what you allow them to without suckling it up to nopetendo shenanigans

[hardy merlin]

If parents let their kids play Forklift it's a clear indication they don't love them, and prefer spending time by themselves

[scarlet sail]

only gotta add the proper parenting software going and youjr pc would be just as children safe if not even more

[stiff fiber]

Well tbh I dont have children

[compact oriole]

[proper basin]

True they should get them into pikmin

[stiff fiber]

But I think I would do my best for my children to not be on live service game I dont want them to communicate with strangers

[proper basin]

Every child should know the fear of losing their pikmin due to their choices

[compact oriole]

you never talked to people in games or teamspeak or what ever as a kid?

[stiff fiber]

Nah I am old when I was a kid we didnt have all of that

[compact oriole]

how old

[stiff fiber]

34

[compact oriole]

bro acts like hes ancient. there was already games like cs and voip tools around when we were young

[verbal nymph]

I see

[hardy merlin]

I didn't even had internet as a kid
We got it when I was like 15 already

[scarlet sail]

i've been playing the original CS back when it launched as a mod while i was still only 11, it made me learn english more or less on my own over a year before we actually had it as a subject in school and all thanks to "communicating with strangers" 😅

[stiff fiber]

First online game I played was starcraft and there was no microphone. Same with wow

[compact oriole]

i prolly wouldnt want a preteen kid unsupervised talking to strangers. when i got into pc online gaming i was like 15

[scarlet sail]

lol, you not having a mic is one thing, but the tools were readily available already^^

[stiff fiber]

Well 15 is ok I guess

[stiff fiber]

Oh yeah I guess so but never used them at the time

[scarlet sail]

just gotta have a bond with your kid so it'll talk to you about what's going on and you shouldn't have anything to worry about

[verbal nymph]

I was talking to peeps when I was 11 lmao. Playing tf2 and sheet.

But still grew up with nintendo cause I have 3ds

[compact oriole]

well times were also different. so were the kinda people who would play online and so was the internet

[stiff fiber]

But when playing wow we were chatting with keyboard and we met a girl. Then when I went to Paris for passing for some exams we met

[compact oriole]

back then playing games and joining voice was a very nerd and niche thing. nowadays the internet is more real than actual reality and almost noone isnt part of it

[stiff fiber]

First time I met an online person was after meeting on wow

[stiff fiber]

Back in time if you were saying you talked and met with someone from the internet people would say you were risking meeting a psychopath

Now it is like normal behavior

[compact oriole]

id be more scared these days to let a kid meet online strangers than back then ngl

[orchid prism]

Xbox 360 shooter voice Comms be like

[stiff fiber]

Same but because I realized after certain news from a certain guy from a certain island that there are more twisted people than I imagined @compact oriole The sad part being that we end up in a society where noone trust noone

[compact oriole]

that shit was a whole other breed of mental illness

[orchid prism]

Like learning a whole new language, with the shittiest mic money could buy.

[fallow bronze]

I played Hl1 mod firearms with voice

[proper basin]

I GOTCHA static YOUR SUCH A static door creaking CAN YOU KEEP IT DOWN IN HERE YOUR SUPPOSED TO BE IN BED

[orchid prism]

[stiff fiber]

I learned english by talking on forum with people about video game

Never learned english in school

[orchid prism]

I learned English from playing video games. I had a basic understanding before I started school.

[compact oriole]

i learned english from joining an international clan in cod4. improved my english grade from almost failing to almost best

[stiff fiber]

That is why my oral english is broken since I only learned it on the internet in my head I pronounce every english word as if I was reading them in french

[ivory dune]

I learned english from pokemon red

And french from pokemon jaune

[stiff fiber]

A friend of mine went really into wow he played for years in a clan and they all met in a nice holiday place several years later

[scarlet sail]

pfft, meanwhile my wow community during classic had 2-3 community weekend meetings a year where usually about 200 out of over 300 members showed up, one of our mates was owning a lil camping ground, some others were butchers and would bring an ox spitroast on most of the mettings, was really the best time of my life back then 😅

[stiff fiber]

What about german with pokemon rot?

[stiff fiber]

Honestly that sound amazing

I dont know if people are still doing that these days

[scarlet sail]

it was, should've seen the face my mom was making when she drove me there the first time and everyone was jokingly doing a salute-row, she nearly lost her mind from shock until someone explained her that they simply wanted to embarrass their community chief 😂

[stiff fiber]

Honestly we underestimate the effect wow had on society

So many stories of people meeting through this game

[scarlet sail]

well, i met the best people through it just like some of the worst (looking at my ex fiance i was together with for 7 years before she went batshit crazy)

[stiff fiber]

Yeah wow really had a huge influence on your life but at the end people on wow are also people irl. No better or worse

[scarlet sail]

yup, took my mom about a decade to finally accept that fact, that whenever i'm talking about friends online i'm talking about real people that i could trust to lend me a couch for a week if i'd happen to strand near them^^

[stiff fiber]

I wonder if these days there are such communities around game

I could totally see that happening in arc if there was a clan system

[scarlet sail]

well, there sure are some communities/clans still around that meet up and stuffs, but they definitely became rare when compared to the player counts

[stiff fiber]

You know I bought wow the exact day it came out

Played for 4 months with friends, then I noticed it badly affected my grade and I gave up on it

Honestly this game was taking all my time

[bleak pike]

https://kotaku.com/ashes-creation-kickstarter-nefasqs-youtube-sharif-2000686976

https://tenor.com/view/blackjack-bender-futurama-hookers-gif-25729729

[scarlet sail]

heh, i played it before that during the CBTs and got a free entry into the main game afterwards, and yea, i sure spent A LOT of time in it (during the ~6 years from release to the release of cata i had like 2,5 years of playtime logged on all my chars combined), but my grades didn't really get affected by it, still finished school, with a 2+(B+) which is decent enough imo considering i had a 5(E) in biology since that subject simply didn't interest me in the slightest and in turn nothing ever stuck with me 😅

[trim rock]

Shocking

[bleak pike]

Scam citizen but on a mini scale

[trim rock]

Atleast Scam Citizen is still technically delivering a game that gets updated fairly consistently

[scarlet sail]

and that's monetized in the most ridiculous way imagineable (for a western game at least)

[stiff fiber]

Sadly these days blizzard is not the company it was anymore

Same for ubisoft btw I was playing beyond good and evil today such a nice game

Ubisoft is unable to produce this kind of fresh and fun game anymore

[ivory dune]

Yet things like the cosby room happened as well

[stiff fiber]

Cosby room?

[ivory dune]

Google blizzard cosby room

[stiff fiber]

I didnt follow this

[trim rock]

Yeah game studios in general were a lot wilder back then, although some still are

[ivory dune]

It was a sexual harassment case and abuse of power

[stiff fiber]

Issue is gaming went from a craft to an industry

[stiff fiber]

Oh I am not surprised

These companies start by people passionated about what they are doing to random huge companies with everything bad happening in these organization

[ivory dune]

They would bring fans from blizzcon floor to their hotel room dubbed the cosby room, with a framed bill cosby

The latter being a convicted sexual abuser

[stiff fiber]

Wtf

[scarlet sail]

it was mostly the fact that gaming companies were mostly nerds/enthusiasts back then that wanted to create what they love for people to enjoy vs nowadays they just got dollar signs in their eyes and everything that would require effort or taking a risk either get's shrugged of to the customers or simply ignored^^

[ivory dune]

A lot of the perpetrators got fired and they tried to change the work culture for the better but

Blizzard had a "frat house" environment

[stiff fiber]

It is not a surprise that huge success these recent years come from small companies I think like expedition or arc

All I ask from a video game company is doing the best game possible with passion and love for video game. And then I think gamers know when a game is made with passion in mind

[scarlet sail]

if only the arc devs would finally listen to the community and open up a separated PVE mode, then their game would actually reach new heights, just gotta look at how shocked the tarkov folks where about how more or less right after they added PVE as a DLC (basically the only reason i didn't get that game yet, having to pay nearly twice the games price for wanting half the game to play is bogus) they had more pve players than PVP players 😅

[stiff fiber]

Honestly in arc with abmm if you dont shoot at other people you end up in lobby where people play the game as PvE

I tend to play PvE and maybe 1 game out of 10 someone try to shoot at me

[scarlet sail]

except that there's more and more complaints about rats getting literally everywhere^^

[stiff fiber]

I swear after 250 hours of game I have been ratted once in stella montis

[scarlet sail]

so yea, instead of taking the risk of that happening i'll simply pass on the game until it actually delivers a true PVE mode

[stiff fiber]

I dont want to convince you otherwise but I think you miss a good game for unjustified fear

Just play it you will see 99% of people are nice

There is a lot of cooperation in arc

[scarlet sail]

like as if it would be that difficult to do, just add a checker at the character creation setting you as PVE permanently which makes everyone unable to harm you and you won't be able to harm others, done

[stiff fiber]

I tell you you can play the game as PvE 99% of time

[scarlet sail]

with my luck? i already smell rats on the very first lobby 😄

[stiff fiber]

Nah

If you play solo no

Trio it is reversed

Honestly I would strongly advice to play the game if you are interested in it and you only hesitate because PvE. If you dont shoot at people you will end up in lobbies where people dont shoot at people

It is because the matchmaking is based on agression level

Non agressive people are in lobbies with non agressive people

And the reverse

Also some maps are more prone to PvP

Stella montis there are more chance to meet psycho

But after 250 hours only happened to me once

A rat in stella

But I uninstalled the game today will be back in some month I need a break and also I spend too much time on it

[orchid prism]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/tvdwI-_uN6o

Cat café hotel

[scarlet sail]

well, i wouldn't play solo, if anything it would be duo or trio (or heck if there's a quad option i'd probably go for that) 😅

[compact oriole]

bro if you buy a 50s gpu these days you get re9. man i feel scammed for having gotten bl4

[clear osprey]

pov you are an a10 warthog

[maiden tulip]

i dont really care, im gonna buy digital it's cheaper :)

and i dont like dealing with physical shit anyways, ill only buy physical if i get a deal and finding deals on cartridges has always been a pain where i live so i dont care

[bleak pike]

https://tenor.com/view/umm-wait-nathan-fillion-gif-4809231

I like how you reacted on the last part, you underestimated how much you needed to flick haha

[stone steeple]

any real horror game recommendations?

[young hill]

Resident evil

[cold anvil]

somone has already dumped the tomodachi life living the dream nsp to the public today, someone at nintendo isnt gonna be happy

[stone steeple]

not real horror for me. same with silent hill or dead space

i want something like amnesia

[outer pollen]

SOMA

[stone steeple]

this one could be good, i played a bit maybe 10 years a go

[cold anvil]

Im checking this out rn I totally forgot

[clear osprey]

happens

[fallow bronze]

Fear

[compact oriole]

layers of fear I heard was actual horror

[thin junco]

hi this games free on steam and active within your regions evening hours!! (usually)
https://medal.tv/games/warfork/clips/muTJLBrdQJvRpKU6O?invite=cr-MSxjZ1YsNTQ2MzQxMDE3&v=120

[buoyant osprey]

Penumbra

[buoyant osprey]

[compact oriole]

https://fixupx.com/XboxWire/status/2043675706836553845

Xbox Wire (@XboxWire)

Get ready for the world premiere of Metro 2039, the next entry in 4A Games’ beloved post-apocalyptic FPS series, presented by Xbox this Thursday: news.xbox.com/en-us/2026/04/13/metro-2039-xbox-first-look-how-to-watch/

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FixupX · Apr 13, 2026, 1:00 PM

[trim rock]

Interesting

[teal temple]

https://x.com/WootingKB/status/2043688530358960446

Wooting (@WootingKB)

April of 2026, nearly 5 years after we've posted this and despite Epic implementing their own version of double movement, our keyboards are still banned from the pro-circuit.. @FNCompetitive @Fortnite

X · Apr 13, 2026, 1:51 PM

[bleak pike]

I need to play exodus, my save kept getting reset because of steam sync 😭

[trim rock]

It's cuz you don't support pickup macros obviously

[scarlet sail]

best fix is to simply disable the steam cloud as a whole, like the only stuff it ever did was waste my time by setting progress back by hours to days^^

[fallow bronze]

steam sync has been pretty much flawless for me thankfully

epic games store ate my save once.

[bleak pike]

What

[bleak pike]

It's a well documented issue with metro exodus but I found out way to late

[trim rock]

That's at these keyboards being banned in forkknife tournaments

[bleak pike]

Oh

[nimble current]

tldr tim sweeney is an asshole

[pure bear]

probably the reason yeah

[cold anvil]

Hypocrite too!

[compact oriole]

Bro is right. Macros when

[stiff fiber]

the guy is giving games for free on epic yet people dont want to touch it

[bleak pike]

It's just a fortnite launcher

[stiff fiber]

you know the thing I hate on fortnite

the design

[compact oriole]

Kids?

[stiff fiber]

this game looks awful

[bleak pike]

No it doesn't

When's the last time you played

[stiff fiber]

the way the character look like i ptsd inducing

last year of something

[bleak pike]

Because idk it's a very pretty game after the huge UE5 overhaul

[stiff fiber]

I am talking about the character design

how the style of the game is

[manic owl]

fortnite has a distinct artstyle cant fault it for that

[cold anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/tomodachi-life-true-meme-tomodachi-life-living-the-dream-nintendo-gif-847994611808331005

[compact oriole]

I think design is ok. But it's kinda overused by all the devs copying the style

[nimble current]

fortnite artstyle is just bland to me

[compact oriole]

And I hate that all FN has become is collabs with everyone and their dogs. I think it's lame AF and I thought it was better when it was still original shit

[stiff fiber]

yeah I hate it. It is like if I was forced to endure having brat kids around while I dont even have kids

Imagine parents forced to buy pyjama and shit with this artstyle

😵‍💫

[manic owl]

idk to be honest in the genre fortnite is the only game that tries something

[cold anvil]

No it doesn’t they’re not even using the original art style anymore they strayed away from it to use more of a corpo style to appeal to companies for collabs

[manic owl]

only mechanic i do not care for is the building, imo its annoying when you shoot on a guy and bro starts building the chinese wall

[stiff fiber]

just play in no build

[cold anvil]

Current style bad, old style good

[cold anvil]

Like this isn’t even nostalgia it’s objectively better and had more soul

And it was stylized

[manic owl]

thats what i do yeah

[stiff fiber]

The only nice thing about fortnite is that it contains kids over there

[cold anvil]

I feel like the “game for children” take is so stupid and annoying. Weren’t we saying the same thing about Minecraft a few years back?????

[manic owl]

idk i like to play a round or grind a battlepass here and there fortnites biggest issue is that everybody was chasing its success messing up live service games

[manic owl]

to me alone from some collabs its obvious that fortnite appeals to all age groups hence the predator and alien skins etc

[compact oriole]

Ye it's the same as Disney adults. It's for Kids but some people never grew up

[stiff fiber]

I am not saying it is a game for children, I am saying a lot of children are in this game

[bleak pike]

I'd say it depends on the character thhb

[stiff fiber]

but I am too old for all of this I dont want to have anything to do with this game and the culture around it

[compact oriole]

Avg age in FN is lower than probably almost any other live service game

[manic owl]

roblox exists i mean

[compact oriole]

Do you know what almost means :3

[bleak pike]

A lot of people have grown up with fortnite also tbf

[cold anvil]

I would argue animation is for everybody but tbh Disney adults are super annoying so I can’t defend them

[bleak pike]

But idk id say a lot more adults started when no build was added

[compact oriole]

Ofc. We old AF watching fucking shonens

[bleak pike]

You see a lot and I mean a lot of comments about adults starting to play because they couldn't cope with ADHD kids building mansions in 2 seconds

[cold anvil]

Fortnite’s style officially died in my heart when they started adding pores to Fortnite collab skins

[manic owl]

im an adhd adult and i get mad when someone builds the chinese wall

[compact oriole]

I liked FN building until they added a mode where you could specifically practice it for 25 hours a day

[bleak pike]

You mean fn creative or whatever it's called?

[compact oriole]

Doing that became the meta to be able to conpete

[bleak pike]

Because then game modes weren't really made by epic

[cold anvil]

Zerobuild is for the kind of people who want to casually play a battle royale but realize every other br is shit now

[compact oriole]

Ye when ever they started adding custom map possibilities

[bleak pike]

I mean ye but also no

People just don't wanna deal with the bullshit building

[cold anvil]

So all the way up to chapter 1 season 7?

[manic owl]

this genuinely i think fortnite is the least shitty battle royale around

[compact oriole]

Sounds about right. I'm not sure

[bleak pike]

I like how chill fortnite is and I especially love how much pve it has built into it

That's probably what keeps me coming back every so often

Although the collabs are taking the piss

https://tenor.com/view/zoey-zoey-fortnite-griddy-griddy-emote-kpop-demon-hunters-gif-8690485199969578712

We were blessed sometimes though

The kpop demon hunters mode was genuinely fun

[manic owl]

yeah i remember playing that it was interesting

[buoyant osprey]

Fortnite turned into Roblox where you just have all kinds of character style clashes everywhere and so the primary thing they have in common that unites them as being Fortnite characters is the cartoony look

[bleak pike]

It was a modified version of a past game mode to be clear

But it was still fun

[bleak pike]

Probably started when they added shaded characters

[cold anvil]

There is no bullshit building, it’s part of the game and people who complain don’t bother to practice even though it’s just the same as playing and learning any other game. Thats like playing a hero shooter, complaining about the abilities then asking for a gamemode without the hero shooter abilities

Thats how I see it atleast

[bleak pike]

I will say though, the Simpsons season was probably the most fun I've had in games in a long long long long time

It was an absolute blast

[bleak pike]

It's

Bullshit

[manic owl]

well no build exists for a reason

[bleak pike]

It's when I started playing aye

[cold anvil]

Nothing wrong with zerobuild, fortnite would absolutely be dead without it

[manic owl]

imo the issue is that you can just build as fast as you can spam buttons

[buoyant osprey]

Roblox:

[bleak pike]

There is nothing fun spamming walls etc

[stiff fiber]

I just noticed that since fortnite came out the world went mad

[bleak pike]

You're just delaying the inevitable, avoiding combat or overwhelming your opponent with ADHD abominations

[cold anvil]

Nah it was post covid

[bleak pike]

That being said obviously people enjoy it

But there's a reason zero build is so popular

[stiff fiber]

yeah and fortnite just came out before covid how odd is that

[cold anvil]

Maybe youre onto something..

[stiff fiber]

it just opened a gate I think

[cold anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/dipper-pines-gravity-falls-double-dipper-point-gif-12502186813085418166

[bleak pike]

Literally everything blew up during COVID

But fortnite was stupid popular before regardless

[stiff fiber]

fornite came out in 2018 I think

[cold anvil]

It was all those gosh darn liberals faults!

[bleak pike]

And I wouldn't say COVID was why it blew up lol

[cold anvil]

Sep 2017

Thats when br came out

[bleak pike]

Doesn't count

No one played it then

[cold anvil]

I did :(

[bleak pike]

I did

Or well tried it

Even then I hated the building

Well hate no

[buoyant osprey]

I remember the days before Fortnite released. It looked really meh as it was just some childish zombie game

[bleak pike]

Didn't enjoy it sure

[buoyant osprey]

Definitely had flop written all over it

[bleak pike]

It was a lot more tolerable

[cold anvil]

I wasn’t all too crazy for Fortnite until season 4 but I played semi consistently

[bleak pike]

Well it's free now and technically received updates

[stiff fiber]

fortnite is just hypnotizing people

honestly ban fortnite and robloc

[bleak pike]

Zero build is literally when I started playing, I saw the news about them disabling build mode entirely and I tried it and got addicted

It's just such a damn blast

Even none BR modes I love, I absolutely adore the music modes.

I've spent ages in party royal too

[cold anvil]

My biggest issue with Fortnite is how they have a strong start to a season, have 0 mid season content which renders the season “boring” to most (including me). Then end the season in a big blast event like it mattered at all.

[buoyant osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/tuff-gguh-ai-baby-sona-meme-gif-15767759709245242383

[bleak pike]

It does feel like it drags sometimes

Ngl a lot of my time now is afk farming exp for passes

I love that I've never had to buy a pass again.

I wish more games did that

[stiff fiber]

if I was president of the world first thing I would do is ban fortnite

[buoyant osprey]

Does horror as a genre need to be scary or try to be scary to be horror?

[trim rock]

I love how it seems the newest AMD graphics driver just made the game crash on startup, pretty based

[bleak pike]

I wouldn't be mad but I would be sad because of how much I've spent

[stiff fiber]

the only reason for horror should be to be scary

[bleak pike]

Just don't tell epic I don't live in Turkey

[stiff fiber]

well you would have more time to play other games

[bleak pike]

I barely even play fortnite

Lol

Even destiny 2 I stopped playing

[stiff fiber]

wtf you are talking about it like it is your favorite game

[nimble current]

fortnite artstyle was AI bland before AI came along

[bleak pike]

Fortnite?

[stiff fiber]

I dont know for me the artstyle is associated to kids

[stiff fiber]

yes

[bleak pike]

Nah I just really appreciate it and have fun whenever I play if I ever play it.

Haven't touched it much in months

I hop on every so often for a few games.

[stiff fiber]

I desinstalled it

plus I dont like anticheat

these software are too intrusive

[cold anvil]

Videogame devs are unlucky I don’t have a job, there’s about over 200 wishlists on my steam account waiting to be bought 😭

[compact oriole]

You looking for a job?

[cold anvil]

Nah, trying to get into University

[bleak pike]

Tbh I prefer EaC over the other options

However I'm against all kernal level anti cheats

[cold anvil]

Job isn’t out of the question just prioritizing one thing over the other currently

[stiff fiber]

I have a theory on anticheat

[bleak pike]

rip valorant play time

Also how old are you

[stiff fiber]

I think they created anticheat to spy on people these games are run by intelligence agencies

[cold anvil]

18 turning 19 this year

[bleak pike]

No wonder you like build mode

You're a child

And are a Fortnite baby

[cold anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/bob-esponja-i-am-cool-im-cool-spongebob-gif-6649018125851883424

[bleak pike]

And based off your valorant clips probably actually do have ADHD XD

Not that its a negative thing to be clear

[cold anvil]

Yeah I’m actually diagnosed with ADHD and Autism lmao

[bleak pike]

I'm special myself

[cold anvil]

No worries I understand

[stiff fiber]

too much tylenol growing up

[cold anvil]

Yeah if it weren’t for liberals I’d be normal >:(

Now Im not normal and have to take my normal normie pills

🥹

[manic owl]

damn you got hit with the double combo. adhd is bad as is at times

[cold anvil]

Yeah life isn’t in my favor

[bleak pike]

From what I've been told and read most people who have one usually have the other or symptoms of the other.

Since they share a lot.

[compact oriole]

what degree you tryna go for

[cold anvil]

Computer engineer

[bleak pike]

Can't play Fortnite and do a degree after the first year

[cold anvil]

Noooo why didn’t I think of that before I applied

[manic owl]

oh yeah id consider adhd to be simmilar to autism in terms of how it affects people , just different symptoms

[bleak pike]

Not necessarily no, they can share symptoms

[cold anvil]

Adhd and autism while playing video games is a double edged sword, you’re either gonna have the best session of your life or the worst. No in between 😭

Not to mention trying to tackle your backlog with adhd is absolutely awful

Unless its something you really want to play

[bleak pike]

I struggle with TV shows

Easily get stressed and overwhelmed if I have like 5 shows with new episodes

[manic owl]

i mean both alter how you percieve and interact with the world and people i guess i should have clarified

[quiet vault]

https://www.streamdatabase.com/twitch/global-badges/winston-overwatch/1

omg

[cold anvil]

Same, which Is why I end up dropping certain shows

And why I prefer long term ones or weekly releases

Like invincible

[bleak pike]

Weekly ones are what stress me

If I don't watch when they come out

[cold anvil]

Whats stresses me is when too many overlap on the same day

[manic owl]

i tend to binge watch i hate weekly releases

[bleak pike]

I managed to catch up a little

[cold anvil]

I dislike binging, only do it if the show is already out and I didnt hear about it until now, I would never deliberately wait for a show to finish unless I’m overwhelmed by other shows I’m watching currently at the time

[bleak pike]

But I know for a fact I probably won't watch American dad or family guy for two weeks XD

[cold anvil]

Those the kinds of shows you put on when you’re bored or just as background tbh

Atleast anything after s10 of family guy

[bleak pike]

Eh not for me

I'll usually eat my dinner and watch them

[cold anvil]

Taking notes on that

[compact oriole]

cz of your adhd

[manic owl]

i need to keep up on the rookie tbh im at season 7 rn

[compact oriole]

all this new shortform content made adhd so much worse

people barely able to concentrate on any subject for more than acouple secs

cant even watch fucking movies anymore without phone in hand

[manic owl]

imo it does not make adhd worse , but "normal" people get worse

[cold anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-cat-meme-meme-meme-cat-gif-14470917232397934693

Yeah…

[vital wren]

Depends on the show for me, I binge watched Bloodhounds season 1 and 2 on 2 days

[manic owl]

i tried to binge the boys ... after a while it gets a bit heavy ngl

[vital wren]

I don't like the boys.. I don't know, I can't sympathize with it

[quiet vault]

https://youtu.be/UO6gGCKJzjI?is=zIlaWj5r_qfx_iea

[cold anvil]

Got the dump for archival purposes, still gonna wait for the full release to come out before touching it and testing out the limitations (not a serious save). These next couple of days are gonna be difficult avoiding spoilers!

don't let the Nintendo Lawyers know

[compact oriole]

i thought it started really good but then its just like gore, cussing and dick jokes

[buoyant osprey]

Game of Thrones

[manic owl]

and gore involving dicks that certainly was something (they won a bafta award for that)

[compact oriole]

dont remind me of that fucking mess

[buoyant osprey]

I wonder how many decisions involved in the later seasons of Game of Thrones were based on «how will those people in that bar react if we do this?»

[compact oriole]

once the books were over and those hacks took over the show sucked. i havent even read the books and it was so painfully obvious when the material ran out

[buoyant osprey]

It felt noticeably worse to me when season 4 came out

[compact oriole]

books ran out s4 or s5 iirc

[maiden tulip]

You own the game who cares

[compact oriole]

the game already leaked?

[buoyant osprey]

Nintendo cares I assume

[compact oriole]

being able to play a better version before actual release. id be hyped af if i cared

[cold anvil]

you could show nintendo indisputable proof that it's your game and they would still find a way to screw you over lmaooo
also I much prefer official hardware over emulation and that I also wanna have my first playthrough and experience on my switch 2 which is why I'm gonna wait anyways

[compact oriole]

i mean, you posted incriminating evidence. so thats on you

[cold anvil]

and I intrust you all to be civil and hide this secret.

[bleak pike]

Don't worry we won't snitch

[maiden tulip]

i need to be arrested for all the gba roms that match the pile of gba carts i have

I'm a criminal

[cold anvil]

aren't we all?

[maiden tulip]

@cold anvil idk if you care about overtrash

Switch 2 releasing tomorrow

[cold anvil]

Tbh idrc all too much, I’d like a Valorant switch 2 release tho!

[buoyant osprey]

@cold anvil

https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/s/4kNTiGMajy

Possibru this isn't a reliable source though since no evidence is given

But RE0R having co-op has been suspected for a while

[bleak pike]

What's RE0R

[barren pewter]

resident evil zero remake

[bleak pike]

Oh

[barren pewter]

@maiden tulip
you
me
shooting dogs on a train

[maiden tulip]

we gaming

[barren pewter]

*gayming

[maiden tulip]

OwO

Reminds me its monday @barren pewter

[barren pewter]

all day, yes

[cold anvil]

it feels like so many remakes are being "leaked" its quite difficult to trust which rumors might be true

[quiet vault]

[sudden prawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_xO3puW1QA

warhammer version of vampire survivors

[hot spire]

a whole ass tank is wild

[cyan pewter]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb8hpYnHmYg

[quiet vault]

gotta watch

[cyan pewter]

online section was pretty short

it mostly talked about spec racing

[hardy merlin]

Can I make v12 Kinder egg again?

v12 BMW Isetta is essential for Horizon experience

[scarlet sail]

how the F would you even fit a v12 into a damned isetta and still be able to sit in it and drive?

[hardy merlin]

I have no idea, but it worked in FH4 and FH5

[hot spire]

sit on v12

[hardy merlin]

After ~80km/h the speed was more than the grip could handle and you flew off

[hot spire]

also like most v12 race engines are tiny

[scarlet sail]

so is a bmw isetta^^

[hot spire]

the real issue is transmission

[scarlet sail]

so yea, where would you even put that v12 or like you said, the transmission etc into 😄

[hot spire]

engine is fine

also you know its based on a real car

granted it was a body swap 3 door isetta

[scarlet sail]

wth kind of 3 door isetta you talking about there? O_o

[hot spire]

the actual v12 isetta

[scarlet sail]

that's an Alsetta, not an isetta^^

[compact oriole]

alsetta corsa

[mellow garden]

@ivory dune I need to do my Academy +10 tomorrow

Plus three other Mythic dungeons for the weekly quest

Free heroic raid loot

[hardy merlin]

https://videocardz.com/newz/valve-customs-record-suggest-first-large-shipment-of-2026-stream-controller

[outer pollen]

https://youtu.be/e-KAA6b2qWQ?

Real

[mellow garden]

Soon™?

Can't wait to rub my trackpads

[hardy merlin]

I hope it launches before Steam Machine
I'd like GabeCube, but I can wait until hardware prices will normalize

[sinful cobalt]

That controller still ugly for me

And looks uncomfy

[hot spire]

i doubt

[mellow garden]

I'd like GabeCube, but I can wait until hardware prices will normalize
Boy do I have news for you

It's not getting cheaper

[hardy merlin]

Steam Deck is very comfy to hold and use
This is just Steam Deck but with screen cut out

[hot spire]

they dont want to risk not haveing stock when machine launchs

they mgiht also throw them in with early units

[outer pollen]

Especially with the killswitch case

[hot spire]

dram is already dropping

consumer module prices will come next

[compact oriole]

what would you even want it for

[trim rock]

Gaming, probably

[hot spire]

stock trading ofc

[compact oriole]

[hardy merlin]

Small HTPC/gaming/streaming cube

[mellow garden]

Gooning

Probably

[compact oriole]

i dont see it being sub 900 maybe 800 bucks

[hot spire]

and?

[hardy merlin]

[compact oriole]

idk kinda expensive for a cut down pc

[hot spire]

the pc are just as much XD

[mellow garden]

Who doesn't love a good gooning session?

[trim rock]

I would like one to do the funny; put windows on it just to have a dedicated ready to go machine for when someone wants me to hop on some anti cheat infested slop game

[compact oriole]

i feel like the biggest usecase for the gabecube is a secondary pc for your tv but with the price it is kinda leaving that realm for most people

[hot spire]

i mean gpu ram and cpu cost you like 700 bucks to be in the same

[hardy merlin]

First thing to be put on it is of course Moonlight
Steam Link says that quality of connection is low on my Android TV box, when it's connected by 1gbit ethernet to the same switch as PC

[hot spire]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wnHBZQ

940 for a pc with the same specs using the cheapest possible componets

missing wifi though

so if the machine is 1500 its not a bad buy

[compact oriole]

right. so why would i get a gabecube

[mellow garden]

WiFi etc are part of the specs

Therefore, it's not the same specs for 940

[hardy merlin]

cube smol

[compact oriole]

if i can get a legit pc for the same price and it can play all the games that linux cant

[mellow garden]

[hot spire]

i was simply to lazy to see if a mobo with wifi or a wifi card was cheaper

[hot spire]

machine can run windows

[hardy merlin]

Even if I would get a small PC instead of Machine it wouldn't run Windows

[mellow garden]

Get the base spec Mac Mini with the educational discount for £499

[hot spire]

that extra money goes into the formfactor and support

[compact oriole]

i think the gabecube out of everything theyre tryna release already was gonna be the worst seller but before the part crisis it still was gonna dominate the secondary pc TV market. now its so expensive that most people dont consider dropping almost a grand on smth like that

[hot spire]

youd be suprised

it was never going to be sub 1000

[compact oriole]

i would be if it actually turned out to do really well

it was. it was never gonna be ps5 pricing tho

[hot spire]

ps5 pro is now 900 bucks XD

[mellow garden]

Steam Frame will be the worst selling piece of hardware, VR is too niche.

[hot spire]

just from tarrifs

[mellow garden]

Steam Machine has a broader use case.

[compact oriole]

ye but it wasnt before. what do the price hikes everywhere have to do with tariffs

unless you mean the tariffs of the billions sony lost with their shitty live service decisions

[mellow garden]

Most people aren't buying the PS5 Pro, they're buying the base spec.

[compact oriole]

we paying the sony tax for all the money they lost on concord, bungie and the 9 other games they cancelled mid dev

[mellow garden]

Even with the price increases, the PS5 is still a good deal.

[compact oriole]

well since all hw went up, it still is a "good deal"

[mellow garden]

No PC is getting GTA VI whenever it initially releases, it's effectively a PS5 exclusive given how dead Xbox Series hardware is.

[compact oriole]

since you cant get a pc for 650 bucks with the same perf

thats just me but i wouldnt enjoy gta6 with 30fps at varying res going 720p-1080p

actually nvm. pssr exists so its prolly gonna run somewhat better

[mellow garden]

PSSR2 on PS5 Pro is very good

[hardy merlin]

I had a blast with GTAV on PS3 barely running 720p30

[hot spire]

again the way valve has been with pricing it was always going to be at or over 1000

[compact oriole]

ye but we were talking about base spec

[mellow garden]

Sucks for base PS5, but you can blame AMD for being late to the party with upscaling solutions.

It'll only be FSR3.1 on base PS5

[buoyant osprey]

Feels crazy knowing we are close to PS6. PS5 was such an underwhelming generation

[mellow garden]

Unless Rockstar are going to bake their own upscaling solution for the non-Pro consoles.

[hot spire]

the non pro is already being taxed to hard to also upscale

[compact oriole]

it was never gonna be 1000+ before the hw crisis hit. they said its not gonna match console pricing. (impossible since console pricing is losing money to get people into your eco system) 1000+ wouldve been doa before

cant wait for them to sell gta6 on ps5 to then have you pay the full game again or an upgrade on ps6 a year later

[mellow garden]

We know people are going to do it

Many millions, probably

[compact oriole]

ofc

its partially the same people who buy cod and fifa every year

[hardy merlin]

People were buying all 5 language version of FireRed and LeafGreen ports on switch to "support Nintendo"
Average consumer is an idiot

[compact oriole]

im telling you. when people have been eating shit for long enough they start craving it

in what world does nintendo need support for rereleasing the same fucking game for the 6th time

gta 6 might be getting people to buy ps5 more than any single first party sony title

but thats not really surprising seeing how few first party titles sony released with ps5

[hardy merlin]

There was only one game that got me interested in PS5, but it be on Steam now

[little cape]

what game?

[hardy merlin]

Demth Stamdimg 2

[little cape]

I gotta play the first one

🙂‍↕️

[hardy merlin]

I'm close to ending first one

[compact oriole]

only ps5 game i wanna play is demon souls

[little cape]

right now im playing ghost of tsushima and|| i lost my horse || spoiler

[unborn jolt]

Anyone here play rust

[little cape]

https://tenor.com/view/eita-vishcat-gif-7290652885757373527

[bleak pike]

I started metro exodus again.... NGL I kinda forget most of the storyline with past metros lol

[fringe salmon]

nope its a laptop zen4 chip and a laptop 7600 so not same specs

people really speculate about the price with the wildest ideas lmao

like the gpu would be so cheap you cant find a better deal because they are essentialyl getting amds leftovers

the price without ram exploding would've been A LOT lower

[hot spire]

its not completly a laptop chip, what laptop 7600 has as 120w tdp gpu.

[fringe salmon]

The 7600m has a default tdp Setting of 90w but many oems have set it to 110-120 valve wouldn’t be the fist

It’s a 7600m and uhh don’t remember of the closed Laptop CPU is a 220 or 240 with npu disabled

its a 220

[willow quiver]

Spam on sayo feels nice

Excuse the muted sound,unfortunately my phone doesn’t pick up audio well.

[ivory dune]

For a few months

[willow quiver]

At that point I’ll have a Wooting so

[grizzled quarry]

Not anymore im no longer a masochist

[hasty belfry]

"Why does it take 100 years for the boss to die???"

[mellow garden]

[ivory dune]

New belt for the mog

[hasty belfry]

Which part is the belt? 😄

Too retaily!

[hasty belfry]

💀

[ivory dune]

Thoridal in classic?

That's pretty wild

[hasty belfry]

I prefer the TOGC 10m Frenzystrike bow but doesn't fit the color scheme :/

[orchid prism]

I need to unlock more sets. All I have are old ones from Legion or prior. 😄

Warlock feels... odd. Not a fan of the constant summoning and imploding imps. Shaman is ... also weird. Since when did we lose 2 handed weapons? Tsk.

[hasty belfry]

Never really played warlock, I leveled one to lvl 20 in classic for summons but that's as far as I got.

[buoyant osprey]

Anyone else tired of the words larper and tourist?

The new big trendy thing

[hasty belfry]

Larper to me is someone doing live action role playing and nothing else.

[ivory dune]

Yeah haha

[compact oriole]

New?

[buoyant osprey]

Yeah they have exploded in popularity now

But of course you can find people saying them a long time ago

[verbal nymph]

Don't see it enough for now

[compact oriole]

Been used as a derogatory way to convey someone is doing smth you don't approve of in recent years as well

Or rather implying that smth someone is claiming to do isn't what they're actually doing

[hardy merlin]

Like Americans claiming they are Italians or Irish or whatever, despite only having like a grandma from there, and they never been there before, nor do not know culture or language?

[sudden prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/paulie-gualtieri-walnuts-good-morning-gif-16057745

[compact oriole]

Sopranos

[buoyant osprey]

I will defend heritage Americans by saying that obviously when they say these things they are not saying they are indistinguishable from these people. It's often just a shorthand way of saying Irish-American etc.
And ironically heritage Americans seem to often preserve certain traditions from their heritage countries better than the natives, such as how Norwegian-Americans seem to often be more engaged with rosemåling (rose-painting) than Norwegians themselves

[iron oak]

https://tenor.com/view/soprano-gabagool-silvio-dante-gif-14540200936614248664

[nimble current]

ova heeee

[cold anvil]

Man star citizen is so cool, absolutely devastated knowing I lack the funds to purchase this game whenever the free flight is over

The game has one massive issue, and it’s the economy.

The amount of people doing handouts is insane and I hate it

Not to be a party pooper but that’d just ruin progression in the game

Like I get a sum of like maybe 10 mil creds to get a nice start

But my friend got handed over a billion the other day

And he also acknowledged that it’s way too much

So he just gave it away too

Also its kinda funny seeing certain things be premium access so you’d have to pay real life money to get it or just wait a couple of years to be put into in game stores
No way in hell I’m paying $50 for a UTV

Even though it’s so cool.. and I could carry storage crates in it..

Video game devs hate to see me without a job on god!!! 🗣️🔥🔥🔥

[trim rock]

Yeah, the economy right now is a meme. Which is good, makes testing easier! There will be more wipes in the future, hopefully when the economy is a bit more sane

[cold anvil]

Thats good to hear, I don’t really mind the bugs all too much in the game they pose more as weird and kinda funny inconveniences

Hold on lemme get a clip

@trim rock

[bleak pike]

The whole "game" is a meme

[trim rock]

Yeah it happens, in the good old days you had to be very careful with where you quantumed since it would sometimes just send you through a planetoid resulting in instant death

[bleak pike]

Just play elite thingy

Forgot the name lol

[cold anvil]

I really like the game, I now understand why 30-40 year old gamer dads love it.

[cold anvil]

I haven’t had what happened in the clip happen again lol

What I really like about star citizen is the amount of detail they put into models aswell as the graphical fidelity

Seems like they improved on it over the last decade

[trim rock]

And random explosions still happen every now and then, not too recently I had spent some effort into setting up my ride and then a couple meters out of the hangar boom

[cold anvil]

Makes it really feel like it’s gonna be one of those long term games

That last almost forever

[cold anvil]

My friend blames me for this because I didn’t let him know we were approaching a very thin barely visible pole

[ivory dune]

I own a reclaimer in that game 💀

[trim rock]

Original backer, spent the bare minimum (like 28 €). Worth the money already tbh

[cold anvil]

This is probably my favorite clip, it was the first day of the free flight and we were figuring things out

[cold anvil]

Investment of a life time holy

[trim rock]

Yeah it was in the early days of gaming crowdfunding before people starting being extremely skeptical of all those

[cold anvil]

I can’t imagine playing the game as content drops came out, the vast worlds are so overwhelming now

Honestly the only thing I’m struggling now is where to go, and how the healing works or what effects I get in the game

Rn I’m mainly trying to focus on going to like enemy outposts?? Igg?? And looting up for armor sets and valuables

I tried last night and everything was going well

Until I overdosed on medpens

In the middle of sorting my inventory

[trim rock]

Damn you must have taken a lot of hits

[cold anvil]

So I lost everything

And respawned naked

I know I couldve gone back but I was too lazy to make the trip

[cold anvil]

I only took like 2-3 medpens lmao

Only used them when I really needed to because they are basically insta heal

The enemies with weapons are pretty alright to fight

Very average difficulty but it isn’t like easy though

[trim rock]

Damn, I feel like I use a lot of them and still never come close to overdosing. Only time I did struggle with that was years ago during the siege event as that was a very long FPS section and the AI was pretty scary at times

[cold anvil]

It’s just enough to where you have to pay attention to where they are so you don’t just take a lot of damage

I do struggle with seeing some of the enemies ngl and thats due to my 1080p display being upscaled from dlss quality

[cold anvil]

I think I just got unlucky

Or there were other factors at play I had no clue of

[mellow garden]

Taken a small break from ACNH and I’ve missed the birthdays for two of my favourite villagers.

[trim rock]

How rude

[cold anvil]

Dont worry, I’ve been there 😔

I haven’t played in a long while, dont think I can get back to ACNH for the time being.

Tomodachi Life drops soon and that’ll be the next thing taken over my life for the next few months

It comes out tomorrow at midnight

The 16th

[verbal nymph]

mmm, 12 hours left

[cold anvil]

More like 36 lmao

[verbal nymph]

Oh, I thought yesterday was 15 lmao

[nimble current]

there are detoxpens for the medpens and other stuff that dopes you up

[mellow garden]

Skye and Melba didn't deserve to get treated like this

[nimble current]

the medgun heals you using less drugs but its a bit unreliable

[nimble current]

yeah it sucks but they've also taken away most of the best gear from the stores so you can't really buy your way to everything, you have to loot for it or do missions

but I agree the broken ass economy is annoying

it also makes people charge ridiculous sums for pretty easily available stuff

[swift forge]

About to extend my recent gd skillboost because im switching from my lenovo laptop keyboard to an uwu😍

I will make it my mission to ruin the lrr list

Holy autocorrect AND I cant edit this is huge

Skill boost*

[orchid prism]

By the nine, Blizzard support has grown incompetent 😄

I have gone through 2 GM tickets, one web ticket - And they still glance over and ignore what I'm trying to tell them, providing clear screenshots.

And instead being served useless Reddit threads that are completely unrelated, and having my tickets closed without the ability to reopen them.

[mellow garden]

Yeah, a friend of mine has been hacked multiple times and support takes a long time to resolve it.

It's also wild that the hackers will phone French or German support to gain access to his account.

Jokes on him for being a mount and pet collector.

[hasty belfry]

It's criminal how bad it is, when it was Cataclysm classic I opened a ticket and the average wait time was 54 days.

There is no phone number you can call, there is no way to request to talk to a human, it's actually insane how shit it has gotten compared to what it used to be, I thought it was bad before but since Microsoft bought this turd it's gotten even worse.

Your first reply will always be an automated reply by some shit AI agent because I refuse to believe the first reply you get is from an actual heman being, then you have to escalate the ticket like 2-3 times then MAYBE you get a human reply.

The worst thing is if your issue doesn't fall under one of their pre-set categories, then you're extra fucked.

[orchid prism]

Mhmm. As it stands I am still unable to use the garrison mission system. Completely. Fun 😄

At least Legion's system isn't fckuded at this time (fingers crossed it stays that way)

[hasty belfry]

Garrison is not current content, even if it is a bug that affects everyone they wouldn't put any manpower into fixing it.

[orchid prism]

It's still core content for the expansion storyline unfortunately.

[scarlet sail]

sounds like the average MMO support these days, just gotta think back how one of the war thunder moderators refered to GPU drivers when i was asking for help about the tank movement being fucked up when using axis inputs

[hardy merlin]

I want to be racist

What would be some nice arcade racing game to play

[hot spire]

didnt know you where norwegian

my favorite racist is norwegian

[hardy merlin]

Hmmm... maybe Midnight Club emulation

[hot spire]

have you played the nfsu2 remake?

[hardy merlin]

There is one?

[hot spire]

its fan made but yeah

[hardy merlin]

Still work in progress
But looks great

[hot spire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QudwBp-wrk

[buoyant osprey]

Are you talking about me or someone like Petter Solberg

[hardy merlin]

Maybe I should splurge for TM sub

[hot spire]

you can play all the main game stuff withouth a sub

subing unlocks new offical content, but after the sub runs out you still get access to it all

jusd not new

need a sub for player made stuff though

[orchid prism]

Curse you Epic.

[buoyant osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRgyggAsta4

Wtf is going on

[bleak pike]

?

[bleak pike]

He made a fuck ton from iron lung

[buoyant osprey]

That was Marksepticeye

[compact oriole]

is that his twin?

[buoyant osprey]

They are the same genre of YouTuber

[fringe salmon]

I can see that absolutely flopping

The reason iron lung works as a move has like no overlap with bloodborne

[bleak pike]

Oh ye lol