🎮│game

[compact oriole]

on bf2042 i get like 130fps everything not on low and on bf6 it was like 90 with everything on min

[hot spire]

i was getting 120-150 with 5070ti and 5800x3d

[grizzled quarry]

Worried that im gonna get shit fps

[grizzled quarry]

On what res?

[hot spire]

1080

4k was like 100

on high

[grizzled quarry]

Ill have to wait and see what I end up getting

Hopefully they make fps better, if not fuck it we ball

Worst comes to worst I need fsr/frame gen

[compact oriole]

i cant remember the last game i didnt use dlss on

[grizzled quarry]

Ive never used it because I've always had 1080p

And it just looks like shit on 1080

[compact oriole]

makes sense

im on 1440p 21:9

[grizzled quarry]

Tried frame gen for the first time with bf6 and was getting like 260 fps w it

On 1080 all low

Looked like it had more tearing though

So deff wanna avoid using that 😭

[hot spire]

going for over 120 fps with 3 gen old gpu and cpu is wild XD

[compact oriole]

ye

im on a 3080rtx and everything on min on my monitor with balanced dlss i was getting 90 fps

[hot spire]

5070ti was zooming

but expecting over 120fps with my 5800x3d would be a joke

[grizzled quarry]

Pc upgrade ain't happening until I get a motorcycle so fuck it we ball

[compact oriole]

the cpu isnt even the issue. its still one of the best performing ones to date

gpu idk. amd has been irrelevant until this gen so idk how they perform

[hot spire]

um 9070 is good fam

[compact oriole]

ye thats literally what i said

no i didnt, wait

[grizzled quarry]

6000 and 7000 series also had great price to performance compared to nvidia

For gaming

[cyan pewter]

i was geting 135 stable ultra 1440p no fsr/gen
9800x3d and 9070xt

[maiden tulip]

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/steam-now-requires-age-verification-in-the-uk-for-mature-game-pages/

It's on fucking M rated games

Not adult games... M RATED

@bleak pike ur doomed

[scarlet marlin]

does the UK also use the letter system tho?

[mellow garden]

You only need to add a credit/debit card

[proper basin]

dont they have pegi

[scarlet marlin]

could be the 18+ rating

[mellow garden]

We have PEGI here

[maiden tulip]

I know at least its better

[bleak pike]

My account is turkey

[maiden tulip]

turkey age verification when

[scarlet marlin]

officers

[small comet]

callum is too cheap to pay uk prices

[scarlet marlin]

get him

[mellow garden]

Regional price abusing

[bleak pike]

Tbh there's fuck all difference now anyway

[mellow garden]

Haven't some regions basically seen an end to regional pricing due to this?

[bleak pike]

I miss the golden age

[bleak pike]

Correct

[small comet]

only the ones callum used

[maiden tulip]

Addind a credit card to your account isn't as bad but yeah

[mellow garden]

Platform holders really should've done more to prevent the abuse to be honest

[maiden tulip]

You still need to like SAVE IT to your account

Which i know somecpeople don't like

[mellow garden]

As it's hurt legitimate consumers in those countries

[bleak pike]

Revolut

[maiden tulip]

what that

[bleak pike]

I lived in Russia once too

[small comet]

neobank

[bleak pike]

Virtual bank

[small comet]

you can get virtual cards

[maiden tulip]

I see

[scarlet marlin]

love how europe (and germany being extra) are '18+ is 18+ doesnt matter the context'

[maiden tulip]

Oh wait

Apparently the UK is losing access to the community tab on steam

Even if you have your credit card linked

[proper basin]

now they cant farm steam award points

[mellow garden]

Huh

[maiden tulip]

It's something i just read

[mellow garden]

I mean, some community game hubs are unmoderated shitholes.

[rotund adder]

Because it dosent require reading

[mellow garden]

Steam itself just has a huge moderation issues for community stuff.

[sudden prawn]

I like how Germany looks like warning labels for medicine or chemicals

[maiden tulip]

Also @bleak pike what if they use ur ip tho

[rotund adder]

I'am glad pegi is not a legal thing in Poland

[scarlet marlin]

they love their meds so that makes sense

[nimble current]

pegi has no legal power here either its just suggestion

[bleak pike]

I've never used a VPN for my turkey steam

[rotund adder]

Same it is suggestion. Just some countries are not fun

[bleak pike]

You've never needed one

Nor Russia

[maiden tulip]

Ok but steam may base its age verification on your IP

rather than the country of the acc

[bleak pike]

Doubt it

[maiden tulip]

How do you think every other service manages the age verif...

It's why your shit works if you use a vpn

Think callum

[bleak pike]

Xbox doesn't

[maiden tulip]

Guess we'll see

[bleak pike]

Oh it's just for store pages

[maiden tulip]

And community

[mellow garden]

Source on this

[bleak pike]

Eh idc, I have a virtual desktop and bank card in turkey

[maiden tulip]

https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/292B-3DA3-CFC8-97F6

[bleak pike]

Turkey epic is alright

[mellow garden]

In order to access Steam store pages for mature content games as well as their associated community hubs

[bleak pike]

Vbucks are still much cheaper but not as cheap as they used to be

[mellow garden]

So not the entire community tab

[bleak pike]

Ye it's for the games forums

[maiden tulip]

Unrelated but also privacy related

https://www.thecanadianpressnews.ca/national/government-says-it-accidentally-deleted-privacy-provision-in-online-streaming-bill/article_39875cd7-effd-5322-86d9-6832cfdee5f6.html

Imagine accidentally removing privacy

[bleak pike]

Clearly don't need to imagine

[maiden tulip]

https://youtu.be/DTV20lIL-ow?si=4yrCtD2ByxBLNvol

no more 15 fps distant enemies

[hot spire]

it was so jank

[maiden tulip]

Awesome fucking game tho but it was reallt held back by sw1

I'm hyped to play the dlc

[hot spire]

shame they couldnt fix the distance

atleast its 30 not 15

[outer pollen]

So close

[soft mirage]

https://link.clashroyale.com/invite/clan/en?tag=G0GPJC9V&token=afjzsp3m&platform=iOS

[outer pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/clash-royale-gif-7703172207880660162

[outer pollen]

Bro do these dumb motherfuckers not play with audio on 2042

[sinful cobalt]

xD

tbh most of the time i was listen to some song

[nimble current]

how else are they gonna play in the school library

[sinful cobalt]

i mean i did enjoyed the game but yeah xd

[hot spire]

100%

i have 5 hours, not a single voice user

[trim rock]

Talking to the other players? Who does that?!

[maiden tulip]

Literally turning off game vc is the first thing i do in any game

Half the time its just some idiot breathing into his mic set to open mic

Or some kid with a smoke detector chirping in the background

[sinful cobalt]

or just blasting music

[maiden tulip]

Or that yeah or dogs barking

[grizzled quarry]

i like lively voice chat

its fun talking shit

[trim rock]

tbh yeah, what point is there playing games with other people if you're just gonna act like they're bots, might as well play with bots then

[maiden tulip]

I play games with people i know

[little cape]

me

[maiden tulip]

Not with strangers

[little cape]

how else am i suppose to yell slurs after asking nicely 5 times to work as a team in comp

[grizzled quarry]

cod voice chat is so boring now

nobody uses mics anymore

[trim rock]

Yeah sadly

[little cape]

lame people

they couldnt handle prime gaming back in the day

[trim rock]

Well on EU sure, in US and maybe even AUS voice chat can be quite lively and fun

[maiden tulip]

The shittalkers got banned

[grizzled quarry]

shit ass game

[little cape]

im still standing

[maiden tulip]

You're weak

[grizzled quarry]

last time i played bo6 i got voice banned and shadow banned

uninstalled and havent played since🔥

[trim rock]

Getting to hear people get mad when they get killed is still such a glorious feature I wish more games copied

[grizzled quarry]

• end of round shit talking on snd

so funny

[maiden tulip]

but i dont get mad

I just play for fun

[grizzled quarry]

so does the battle dads screaming at us on cod

they still get mad

[trim rock]

Well yeah it's a game that somehow just makes people mad

[little cape]

you bruise easily youre the weak one

[outer pollen]

I remember back on burnout paradise if you had the little playstation webcam it would take a picture and upload it for the players to see how you reacted lol

[maiden tulip]

shit

[grizzled quarry]

nah thats wild 😭

[maiden tulip]

I remember the ps eye card game

[trim rock]

Definitely no weird pics were sent

[maiden tulip]

https://youtu.be/hWBQ9UE-OkM?si=o4cQ070dyLVXD4Bx

Anyone remember this?

[outer pollen]

I played that game a fuck load and never saw anything weird as a kid lol

I remember one white bald dude that was screaming after a takedown lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPIbGnBQcJY

[little cape]

welp brb time to play comp and yell slurs at EOMM agents

[trim rock]

It wasn't acted!

[outer pollen]

lol

[hardy merlin]

@fading spade @proper basin

[proper basin]

already played em

[outer pollen]

@maiden tulip what do you think if real

[maiden tulip]

So far the leaks have all been spot on so yes

[outer pollen]

Does wailord have a mega?

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokeplush-pokemon-plush-plush-plushie-gif-22923632

[maiden tulip]

No

[hardy merlin]

Can I get life-sized Blahaj?

[sinful cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/blahaj-gif-16469733789821055688

[hardy merlin]

Then I'm gonna dress you in Blahaj pajamas, you'll do

[sinful cobalt]

[hardy merlin]

Oh yeah, I have this one

[maiden tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/pool-prank-children-plash-push-gif-17659997

GOOD LUCK SWIMMING

BITCH

[sinful cobalt]

insert Filian screaming mods

[sinful cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/listen-here-you-little-meme-you-little-shit-damn-you-damn-it-chicken-kiev-gif-25718782

[mellow garden]

[hot spire]

ok 2042

why the hell cant the aa see directly up

like gepard and tunguka are 87-88 degree

[outer pollen]

hell yeah

[sinful cobalt]

2042 is a fun game but i just cant play too much of it

[compact oriole]

i installed teamviewer on my phone so i could leave my pc running afk xp farm

[hot spire]

the secvond best smg XD

[outer pollen]

https://youtu.be/F0yrfg2Z9C0?

[cyan pewter]

@outer pollen ngl i wasnt really feeling the story but closer to the 2nd half and the ending was pretty good

the cinematics were fucking amazing and looked really good on oled

[mellow garden]

Credits rolling in Donkey Kong Bananza. It’s a very good game. Although those final two boss fights are certainly something for a kids game. Highly recommend playing this game on Switch 2 (and buying one to play this if you don’t already own the console).

[maiden tulip]

I loved it

[mellow garden]

Not sure how much post-game stuff I'm going to do

[maiden tulip]

Also the fuck do you mean the last 2 boss fights are easy

The last boss kicked my ass

[mellow garden]

I mean, for a kids game.

I also said certainly something, as in hard

[maiden tulip]

Oh

I misread

[mellow garden]

The part where you just need to move on the decreasing size platform is literally any MMO boss fight

FFXIV prepared me for that

The real final fight was something I died on a few times

Then you play aggressive and it actually got easier

[proper basin]

you are kid

[maiden tulip]

you are deer

[mellow garden]

Banana!

🍌

[maiden tulip]

https://youtu.be/gWieYuo3_4Y?si=9U1wXYH9aSyqwb-S

[mellow garden]

Have seen this already

[proper basin]

NEW CAR SONG!!!!! @outer pollen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMXJBx-2mjE

[outer pollen]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2917040/Garten_of_Banban_8_Anti_Devil/

Steam

Garten of Banban 8: Anti Devil

Explore the most obscure levels of Banban’s Kindergarten. Survive the new deceives and mysteries that await you. Uncover the truth behind the place, and find the whereabouts of your missing child…

Survive most obscure levels of Banban’s Kindergarten:…

Price

$9.99

Recommendations

497

▶ Play video

[fading spade]

I can't play this weekend :'(

[outer pollen]

@grave granite

I’m sorry I had to do you like that my froggy friend

What’s the rule for the ♻️ emoji then

I think you choose between the Mortar and the Defibrillator right?

Tanks won’t know what hit them

They better give me a cool anti tank rifle for recon

The should let you use the repair tool on Engineer to destroy enemy vehicles

[clear osprey]

I miss using that laser drone on recon from bf4

I’d go around looking for c4s to zap and blow people up

[trim rock]

Just do the good old jihad jeep

[clear osprey]

better yet get a duo who can drive your c4 riddled car so then it doesn’t explode after you detonate

that thing

I was a menace with that thing

I can’t remember if you could just kill people with the laser

you could right?

it would do some damage

because it could detonate c4

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_4/comments/1bp27ef/mav_kills_compilation/

bingo

wrong

https://tenor.com/view/finger-wag-no-no-no-gif-27552536

GET FACT CHECKED!

https://tenor.com/view/memes-gif-9980668056796018353

[outer pollen]

Wait the little robot does that in 2042?

[fallow bronze]

Ohh I loved doing that

[fallow bronze]

This, I loved doing this

[outer pollen]

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/acecraft-sky-hero/id6746043251

Anyone tried this

[bleak pike]

It's shocking how good destiny rising is and sad at the same time.... So many things are done better it's insane.

It feels like an actual MMO, hell even gambit is leagues ahead and actually fun.

[outer pollen]

I haven’t played since release day

[bleak pike]

Which?

[compact oriole]

anyone know if bf2042 is doing another 2x xp weekend?

[outer pollen]

Rising

[compact oriole]

bf2042 double weekend lets go. afk farming xp worth double

[outer pollen]

How do you stop it from crashing

[compact oriole]

games only crashed like twice for me so far

i also limit frames to 10 fps

and stuck my controller stick to show down so i dont get kicked

[outer pollen]

“We therefore will have a double XP events every weekend until the Free Battlepass ends on October 7.”

For 2042

[compact oriole]

nice, so maybe i can fill this shit out sooner

41k exp per game

[compact oriole]

how often does your game crash

[outer pollen]

Whenever I leave it afking without moving I’ll get like a crash message

[compact oriole]

like, you get booted back to menu or the game clolses

cz if its only back to menu then its afk kick

need either a macro if you have the game in foreground or a controller, cz that input works even when youre doing smth else

[bleak pike]

Damn that's cheap

[compact oriole]

could also be a placeholder price, since you cant buy it

imo it had a good chance to just cost the same as the OG. but my guess is 20-25

[outer pollen]

I mean they got their funding back during the kickstarter right

[compact oriole]

well in theory. since this project that turned into its own huge game was funded by a ks goal

but that money wasnt enough for the first game (i think) and definitely not enough for 7 years of def on this one

and that doesnt even include the 3 free content updates of the first game

but ye, theyre rich enough to chill the rest of their lives and it doesnt really seem like theyre after the money either

so im not expecting it to be much higher priced than the first one

[maiden tulip]

You can tho

https://www.gamestop.com/video-games/nintendo-switch/products/hollow-knight-silksong---nintendo-switch/432032.html

[maiden tulip]

Oh

They removed it

I guess i still had the page cached lol

[mellow garden]

Maybe it'll be $70 USD

[outer pollen]

Only got Nintendo

[mellow garden]

My guess is actually $30-40 USD

[buoyant osprey]

Any dinosaurs here tried this game? It's free on GOG and I want to get into the Ultima series

[compact oriole]

oh, i didnt even konw. if you just do the vt maps normally itrll count towards the benchmark crap anyway

[compact oriole]

@clear osprey https://i.imgur.com/mfgy00F.png https://i.imgur.com/5tj4LFX.png

1 week of doing em once a day. i even got gold in 2 of em

[outer pollen]

@orchid prism let’s ask

[orchid prism]

It's a Lord British game. Save to say I've never touched it 😄

[clear osprey]

let’s go king

[fallow bronze]

Machinarium for free on epic

Cute little point and click

I've been really enjoying abiotic factor
Hl1 atmosphere, but really different game.

It's keeps surprising me in a good way

[fierce bay]

6.7 more tiers left on the bf2042 pass 🥵

[compact oriole]

holy

you been grinding all day since day1?

[fierce bay]

I’ve been playing portal matches against only ai with full xp (+2xp on weekends) on servers I have password protected for all the challenges and afk when I’m away.

[compact oriole]

wonder how quickly you level playing actively like that

[outer pollen]

I’ve just been playing legit and about to hit level 28 I think

[compact oriole]

how much playtime

[outer pollen]

I’ll check after shower

[fierce bay]

The private ai portal servers are the best because they’re just regular skill ai so you don’t have sweats that live for bf2042 decimating your team. Reason why I’ve been trying to do it so quick is my gamepass and ea play runs out soon and then I’ll lose access to the game.

[compact oriole]

[fierce bay]

And I really don’t feel like extending for bf2042. Sure I could buy it on Steam for like $3 but imo it’s still just as bad as it felt at launch 4 years ago or whatever. Would rather put that $ towards a different game that I’d actually enjoy.

[compact oriole]

i dislike the game too much to be able to bother with more than trying to do the weeklies. im 26 or smth by just doing afk xp stuff in portal every evening when im back from work. but i think ill leave it running during the day as well starting monday.

[fierce bay]

They removed 2xp from afk servers just fyi.

[compact oriole]

well depends on how badly you want the skins. 3$ for skins is very low in my book with how much i spent on them before, which is why i bought it

[compact oriole]

when? 10 minutes ago? cz its been working today

[fierce bay]

From what I’ve seen it doesn’t

[compact oriole]

im getting 2xp rn while we are typing

[fierce bay]

Started yesterday. Maybe it’s the new afk servers they removed it from.

[compact oriole]

no idea. ive been using the spearhead 1.4 what ever the title says one with 128 players

getting 30k-42k per game as opposed to the usual sub 20k

[hot spire]

how did you get full xp portal ai?

just rent 64 player server and dont let anyone join?

[fierce bay]

I made it a while back on the portal website and made persistent with password.

Iirc you can only make moderate xp ones now

[hot spire]

i just havent been into the game enough to care about the bf6 unlocks lol

[compact oriole]

you could 100% afk all of it

[hot spire]

yeah but then i gotta use like a second pc or some shit

[compact oriole]

why?

[hot spire]

i work on my pc

[compact oriole]

as long as you have a controller you can have it in the background

[hot spire]

it still gonna use gpu

[compact oriole]

ive had it running in the background all day apart from the 2-3 hours i wanted to game smth

[hot spire]

which i need for work

[compact oriole]

ah ok. well then it wont work 😛

would have to do it outside of work i suppose

[hot spire]

between actual cad stuff for work

and trying to get my buddies 30 year old cnc working

been on pc too much lately

[hot spire]

thats a hella select menu XD

[sinful cobalt]

i do wanna get back into that game

[compact oriole]

https://i.imgur.com/OGHd2vr.png btw

[outer pollen]

new season just started!

[compact oriole]

https://i.imgur.com/gEUDR3Y.png these servers

[sinful cobalt]

oh noice

[hot spire]

they still only give partial xp

[trim rock]

I was looking forward to trying out PoE2 this weekend, but man oh man it's way too big, game devs really need to learn how to make games smaller again... or I just need to suck it up and get more SSDs

[compact oriole]

ye but more xp than not playing

[outer pollen]

The one you choose doesn't hang and the rest do

[hot spire]

i wont play a ways on rpg XD

[outer pollen]

@narrow junco idk what class to play on PoE 2

[narrow junco]

Idk i didnt keep up with the meta

Sorc looks fun

[outer pollen]

deadeye is being favored right now again

[narrow junco]

Or deadeye ye

[outer pollen]

I'm just gonna play Witch again

[narrow junco]

I think i would play sorc

[outer pollen]

my friend is playing it

[narrow junco]

Doesnt mean you cant

[little cape]

no balls play sorc you wont

[verbal nymph]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n89NFtIUWDI

[hot spire]

deargod

[verbal nymph]

full map is there, so it's 30% there

[hot spire]

i mean quests is like 80% of the game

[orchid prism]

I love Morrowind as much as the next guy. But...

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

Swamp water is somehow deadly poison
Ah - ha

[hot spire]

yeah that was a choice, hopefully optional

[hot spire]

i mean skywind is a thing

ibut then you just have skyrim melee combat

[orchid prism]

Which is infinitely closer than Elden Ring

[hot spire]

yeah

but still not great

tbo it might be easier to port morrowind to elden ring, then elden ring combat to skyrim

[orchid prism]

Honestly - I prefer it that way, cause Morrowind combat Suuuuuuuuuucked.

[hot spire]

oh yeha

turbo stunlock is the #2 method death in morrowind

behind just death

though i want skywind more

as openmw is slowly getting skyrim/obivion engine stuff

so it will be cool to have all the skyrim improvmens in morrowind and having assests made for skyrims engine

and based on the jank of obivion remaster

i dont have high hopes for fallout 3/nv remake

so openmw might be key there

skyrim melee with fallout 4 gunplay in nv story would be amazing

[maiden tulip]

how do you know its hevc

[hot spire]

you do have to have av1 support to play av1

idk how it would just magicly be supported it isnt self exceucting code

i mean what os/soc dosent already pay for hvec

[hardy merlin]

Never a bad idea to switch, so we can finally move on

[hot spire]

why would you make youre own encoder/decoder

lack of hardware encode support lol

most people dont have hardware av1 encode

but have hardware hvec

[hardy merlin]

All new devices can do AV1
And even RDNA2 and RTX30 can decode AV1, so

[proper basin]

phone :(

[sinful cobalt]

[hot spire]

i said encode

[hardy merlin]

Yeah
All new devices can do that
And a lot of older can decode, so should be less and less problems to switch

MPEG/VCEG standards should be killed off already
They've grown too comfortable, to the point where H.266 is not even worth using

[young hill]

https://share.google/wOuiYS0mDr9Jep0Li

Interesting, guess that can somewhat avoid asking for an ID

[hardy merlin]

It's way better than asking for ID

[young hill]

Only would work for digital goods though that are not free

[sinful cobalt]

who hasnt added a credit card to their steam account

[mellow garden]

You need to keep the payment information on the account, I believe.

Although maybe adding and removing works?

That said, I've spent £100s on Steam using a credit card already.

[hardy merlin]

You need to buy stuff for more than $5 a year
And you can use PaySafeCard for example, so no card

[mellow garden]

Who needs PaySafeCard when you can just use an actual credit card for purchases before paying the statement off every month

[sinful cobalt]

i wanna cry

[hardy merlin]

Kids who don't have cards

[mellow garden]

Kids shouldn't be buying mature games 😉

[grizzled quarry]

what the fuck 😭

[mellow garden]

Plus most UK banks have accounts with cards for children anyway

[hot spire]

only 4k?

[mellow garden]

Can't speak for anywhere else but I had a debit card when I was 10 or 11 here in the UK

[hot spire]

minor account cards get flagged

[hardy merlin]

I got one when I was 18

[hot spire]

atleast in the us

[outer pollen]

@maiden tulip new season for Poe 2

[maiden tulip]

neat

[maiden tulip]

So did i in canada

But debit cards here dont work online

Only credit cards work

[grizzled quarry]

tf?

that might just be a quebec thing

[maiden tulip]

I never ever saw a debit card that works online here

[hardy merlin]

Meanwhile here almost no one has a credit card

[grizzled quarry]

in the rest of canada they do

[proper basin]

scam

[grizzled quarry]

mine and all my family/buddies debit cards work online

[hardy merlin]

Debit is Visa/MasterCard and credit is Visa/MasterCard
For store it doesn't matter

[mellow garden]

AMEX if you're flexing

[hardy merlin]

Flexin? Aight

No debt

[maiden tulip]

Ok i looked it up, the 2 banks i ever used just dont offer that

[grizzled quarry]

L banks

[maiden tulip]

But some like rbc have a visa debit thingy

[grizzled quarry]

rbc you have to ask for it, td iirc all cards work online

[mellow garden]

You don't use an AMEX for actually getting into debt, you use it for the cashback and other reward perks.

[maiden tulip]

Never used td

[mellow garden]

The good AMEXs actually cost money to get

[maiden tulip]

I only used national bank and desjardins @grizzled quarry

[grizzled quarry]

td is who im with

and most of my family atp

[hardy merlin]

I don't have CC and I don't want to

[sinful cobalt]

• 2k on instant gaming and other key buying sites

[grizzled quarry]

i dont have one yet

i will get one eventually

[hardy merlin]

Debit card is all I need

[grizzled quarry]

need a credit card to help build credit 🤷

[orchid prism]

We don't do that here.

[mellow garden]

Credit scores in the UK require a steady amount of credit utilisation for the best score. Too low is bad. Too high is the worst though.

[hardy merlin]

Indeed
That's US version of Chinese social score
But, opposite to Chinese version, it actually exists

[maiden tulip]

I had a cc for a while but i really only use it for buying videogames online

[maiden tulip]

The hell are you on about cals lol

[hardy merlin]

Credit score in US is nothing else than just how rich people see you

[grizzled quarry]

im considering getting a cc before i buy my bike to use that to build my first bit of credit

but unsure if id rather just pay cash for the hell of it

[mellow garden]

I use my credit card for most purchasing these days. Even TfL contactless for the train to work. I'm never spending beyond my means and the extra buyer protections are nice.

Keeps my score good for when I finally get a mortgage.

[maiden tulip]

No

It's just called you pay your loans back

The same way yhat it works in the eu

You guys just don't call it a credit score

You guys just do a risk assesment on a per loan basis

Literally the same damn thing xD

[hardy merlin]

Credit score goes down as you pay off loans
And we don't do that here

[maiden tulip]

Ok you don't understand a thing about it

[hardy merlin]

[maiden tulip]

Have you ever taken a loan cals?

[little cape]

you play sonic crossworlds yet?

[hardy merlin]

I don't need to?
My parents did however, so I know how it works

[sudden prawn]

show me what you got

[maiden tulip]

How do you think they decided on if they were allowed to take a loan

Or if they'd be denied

[little cape]

they measure your third leg

[maiden tulip]

They look at income and if they paid their shit

[little cape]

dumb dumb

[maiden tulip]

Literally what a credit score does

[little cape]

no

[hardy merlin]

Look at income, other loans you currently have and history of employment
That's it
It may surprise you, but every country in EU has different rules when it comes to this

[maiden tulip]

That's literally what a credit score does

It looks at if you've been paying back the loans you already have

[hardy merlin]

They don't look at loan history

[grizzled quarry]

yes they do

[maiden tulip]

They do

They see if you have any outstanding debt

[grizzled quarry]

they look at both loan and employment history

[hardy merlin]

If you have debt, not if you had any loans

[grizzled quarry]

yes

yes they do

[maiden tulip]

I think you're just really misinformed cals

[sinful cobalt]

[grizzled quarry]

my buddy literally bought took a loan out for a house a few months and we talked about for a few hours

they absolutely look at current, and previous loans

[outer pollen]

No not yet

[hardy merlin]

2 Canadians explaining how banks work in Poland to a Polish dude
I'm going to get something to eat

[grizzled quarry]

were talking about credit score in north america

[maiden tulip]

just do a damn google search

[little cape]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-sonic-exe-gif-12890623297943149339

[maiden tulip]

It's literally a credit score without being called a credit score

Same fucking shit

@hardy merlin you literally have a credit information bureau called the BIK

This report includes your payment history on loans, credit cards, and other financial products from banks and other institutions that are part of the BIK system.

^literally the same shit credit scores are based on in NA

it's just not assigned a numerical number

[little cape]

Chat should i play mecha break?

[orchid prism]

When people hear credit scores, they often talk about that whole US mindset of constantly using your card and making payments - which is just not something we do here.

[outer pollen]

It’s fun

[maiden tulip]

A card is technically a loan, just a short term low amount loan

[little cape]

yeah i remember playing the beta and i enjoyed that

[orchid prism]

Using your card's CREDIT is. Using the card within what is on your account is not.

[maiden tulip]

Ye

[orchid prism]

If you told someone here to actively use their credit on their card and make payments, to build a credit score, they'd stare at you, like you're insane. 😄

[steel shore]

do any of you have this problem, or a solution?: when i remap keys on wootility, it just will not work at all, say i remap ctrl to lshift - lshift will still be lshift

[maiden tulip]

I have a credit card, i only ever used it to make online purchases, i never bothered thinking about building credit

[orchid prism]

Make a thread over in #1019755933959733258 and include a screenshot of the entire Wootility window.

[steel shore]

i would but im just not sure if im doing something wrong?

[orchid prism]

Find out - by making a support thread and let people look at your settings.

[steel shore]

okey

[maiden tulip]

Also you don't have to make payments over several mobths or whatever

I hyst make a purchase online, open my bank app, transfer the money from my debit account to my cc

Done

[orchid prism]

I just use my debit card.

Why spend money I don't have.

[maiden tulip]

I spent money i have tho

[grizzled quarry]

dont use the credit card unless you can pay it off?

pretty simple solution to that

[maiden tulip]

Its why i transfer the balance to the cc right away

I use it the same way i use a debit card

Most people do this fyi

[orchid prism]

Your credit card didn't - You took a loan, and then repaid it from another card. That's a lot of superfluous steps in my book.

[mellow garden]

I especially book flights and hotels on the CC. Then I pay it off once the statement generates each month. Plus we actually have to use credit to build a score in the UK.

[grizzled quarry]

^ this is how it is here too

[maiden tulip]

takes me 20 seconds you can even set it to do it automatically with some banks

[orchid prism]

I have one card for personal use, which is tied to my savings account.
I wouldn't know what to need a credit card for. 😄

[maiden tulip]

For me its literally just buying stuff online

[orchid prism]

I... I use my debit card for that.

[maiden tulip]

My bank doesn't have online pay functionality for debit cards

[orchid prism]

Well that's just neanderthal like in my book 😄

[maiden tulip]

Switching banks hard lol

[orchid prism]

My debit card is just a Mastercard that respects the limit that is "how much money does my account have?" 😄

[maiden tulip]

I had this debit card since i was like 12

So i don't really feel like moving banks?

Ya know?

[orchid prism]

I do in fact not know. It's pretty painless to switch banks here.

[maiden tulip]

Blame my grandpa for making me open an account with his bank when i was a kid

[grizzled quarry]

how does your banks determine how big of a loan you can take out?

like what do they use to determine that if credit score isnt a thing out there

[maiden tulip]

Income and outstanding previous loans

[orchid prism]

They look at my income and assets - And might look at the last year or so of my bank statements to see if I regularly go into the negatives.

[maiden tulip]

random but building credit isn't hard, i literally just use this card to buy shit online

and i pay it instantly when i do use it

It's literally just got 1 purpose xD

[sudden prawn]

nice

[maiden tulip]

So yeah just dont use money you dont have

You can literally have your debit card autopay the credit card

[sudden prawn]

america literally runs on debt, so we have to just do this song and dance to have an easier time to get a loan

[orchid prism]

Denmark might be a little odd I guess. We also have state issued student loans, which have a ridiculously low rates - so much that it is generally considered something you slowly repay at the minimum rate for as long as you can, cause it's the best debt you'll ever have, and banks don't consider it a bad thing to have, as long as you're employed in any way 😄

[maiden tulip]

Yes nico has one

[grizzled quarry]

student loans out here are a little bit worse

[maiden tulip]

It's got like no fucking interest or some shit

[orchid prism]

Yeah it's basically nil.

4%?

[maiden tulip]

I dont rememver he told me once

What's annoying is he can't pay it from his canadian bank for some reason

[orchid prism]

And most people will never have one, cause they work enough on the side to cover any luxury expenses like partying and hobbies. You're paid a basic student's stipend that covers the essentials like rent.

[maiden tulip]

Has to transfer his money to his danish bank

THEN pay

[maiden tulip]

Ye its quite generous

Enough to do all the basics in nico's case

Rent food internet

[orchid prism]

That someone doesn't surprise me - A lot of these systems are really oldschool. You often can't pay them back using anything other than a Danish issued "dancard", our ancient credit card that predates the American ones.

And... those aren't awfully common anymore. So you gotta ask the state to send you a bill you can pay via your webbank instead 😄

[maiden tulip]

I told him to read this because i have no clue what this is lol

[orchid prism]

I have a feeling he's already doing it as efficiently as he can, since he's abroad.

[maiden tulip]

Probably

I just remind him to pay his stuff

also his danish bank is so stupid

IT FUCKING CLOSES AT NIGHT

ONLINE IT JUST SAYS THE BANK IS CLOSED

ITS ONLINE

[rapid bramble]

I pay it monthly with my danish card

Just stupid I can't use my Canadian account for it

[orchid prism]

Yeah. I think it's something like the stock market? They need to shut off the transfers of everything for a while to process everything?

[rapid bramble]

"Jyske Bank er lukket fra kl. 02-05"

This some bullshit

[maiden tulip]

I can transfer money at 3am here or whatever xD but apparently there they're like no daytime only

[orchid prism]

Not a huge issue if you're in the timezone - Not often I need to do webbanking at 2AM. But internationally I can see it being an issue 😄

I'll have to make a mental note of that when going to Taiwan for sure.

[rapid bramble]

02-05 is 20-23 here so it can get annoying

[orchid prism]

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-crossed-arms-pikachu-eyes-closed-pokemon-gif-15194868

[maiden tulip]

How dare nico go on his bank's site in the evening

After work

[mellow garden]

My bank have a really good app/website

Schedule downtime is always on a weekend

[maiden tulip]

We ain't talking maintenance

The bank literally "CLOSES" at night

[orchid prism]

Mhmm. App is unavailable during those hours every night.

[grizzled quarry]

thats wild

[hot spire]

common with small banks

mycredit union 24/7 support is 1 of 3 overnight people that have an office above the main branch lobby lol

they work 3 12s overlapping

for after hours support

[orchid prism]

We don't really have physical banks in the first place 😄

[hot spire]

how do you get more cash that atm?

or like replacement cards

[orchid prism]

Former, you go to the one branch somewhere in the country. Don't forget to phone ahead cause no bank wants money on hand if they can avoid it.

Cards are mailed.

[hot spire]

so you're boned for days if card dies?

[orchid prism]

Most don't use physical cards, unless they're boomers (who might use actual paper money)
ApplePay/AndroidPay

NFC baybeeeh

[hot spire]

yeach the cards still die/get lost

[sinful cobalt]

95% of the time my card is at home chilling on my desk

[orchid prism]

If you have literally no way of getting money normally, you'll have to go to the one branch that still exists of your bank in person during work hours, and prove you're you to be allowed to withdraw a pittance.

[sinful cobalt]

and i just use applePay

[grizzled quarry]

i only use my card

i dont use any of the pay with phone shit

[orchid prism]

And then way a couple of days for a replacement physical and digital card.

[sinful cobalt]

and i do wanna get a 2nd card from Revolut for spending for real

[orchid prism]

I have a personal card for luxury purchases, a shared card with the missus we use for food and other daily purchases.

Three bank accounts. Spending/Savings (aka. luxuries), Food (the shared card) and one for utilities - rent and such. We auto-transfer enough money from our main accounts to that, so bills are always paid automatically.

Oh and a Wise card from work, in case I need to go somewhere for like an event.

[vapid lintel]

The trick is to have multiple banking relationships... At least two physical, one digital, and one crypto

[hot spire]

how would you buy a used car from someone?

[maiden tulip]

you just do

[fierce bay]

Rewards points. Easy

[orchid prism]

No such thing here - Outside of... fuck... air travel?

Discounts and reward stuff is tied to apps here. Every #¤%& company and shop wants to sign you up for an app or a newsletter 😄

Local supermarkets tend to block off the self-checkout to app. Can't just go through normally.

[fierce bay]

Do you have Rakuten there? It’s got an app, website, and browser extension to get various rewards from online purchases.

[orchid prism]

Rakuten... is a TV streaming platform?

[fierce bay]

I’ve got 12 credit cards, 3 charge cards, and 5 debit cards (I have multiple checking accounts). Credit cards and charge cards never carry a balance but all serve a different purpose.

[orchid prism]

https://tenor.com/view/smh-eyeroll-gif-5637372828311539729

[fierce bay]

Nah. It’s like a rewards app.

[fierce bay]

If you use them responsibly and never keep a balance in the US, not only is using a credit card just free $, it’s got purchase protection, warranties, and some have exclusive benefits like having a personal concierge to do anything for you 24/7.

[orchid prism]

Or you know - Live in a country where you don't need all that 😄

[fierce bay]

Have you ever gone to a fancy restaurant only to find it’s all booked out? Or search for a hotel, only to find there’s no available rooms? Or want to go to an event like a concert only to find out it’s sold out. Having a personal concierge pull strings and do everything for you has its perks.

Get scammed from a company or someone steals your card info and makes fraudulent purchases? Purchase protection can make sure you’re not responsible for that money lost.

If a company’s warranty isn’t long enough or fails to warrant the product for XYZ reason, warranty services offered by credit card companies will cover the value of the product so you can just buy a replacement.

Stuff like fuel I get 10% cashback, Amazon 5%, any sort of dining 6%, grocery 6%, etc…it all adds up over time.

For instance, my 2 5090’s retailed at $2000USD. No sales taxes where I’m at so that’s the total price. If I paid with a bank, that would be a total of $4000. But since I got 5% cashback on it, the adjusted cost was $3840USD for the 2. A savings of $160 just because I used a credit card.

[orchid prism]

Sounds like an awful lot of cards and work for... basically the same thing we have here without.

[fierce bay]

Oh…and don’t want to battle against bots to get a new GPU? Just use a concierge to buy it for you.

[outer pollen]

@narrow junco the elemental infusion for sorcerer is fun

[narrow junco]

Me when i pay 800 dollars/year for my premium credit card and i get 160 dollar cash back

[narrow junco]

It looks very fun tbh

I might try it for campaign

[vapid lintel]

The powerplant, "Falling Fuel" is coming along nicely

[proper basin]

The factory must expand

[vapid lintel]

Yessir

[rapid bramble]

Is that a recent change or are you talking about the Shop&Go from Netto?

Because I could still do regular self checkout 19 months ago in Denmark

[little cape]

@proper basin opinion?

[proper basin]

fucking mogged

[orchid prism]

Netto and Føtex don't require apps. Coop stores do.

[rapid bramble]

Ah, makes sense I didn't see it then since Fakta had been killed off in favor of Overpriced365

[outer pollen]

Fixed it for you bro

[bleak pike]

@outer pollen

I've had 4 mythics on normal drops but no grwyn ones lol

[outer pollen]

I think the best unit is the one that starts with a J she’s on the permanent banner

[bleak pike]

Jolder?

I have her but she's such a generic titan XD

I've been enjoying Attal a lot funnily enough

[outer pollen]

yeh!

That's who my friend told me and that dude is a metaslave to the max

[sinful cobalt]

this clip is kinda mid

[clear osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/angai313-spongebob-sad-spongebob-crying-gif-21679826

[fathom swift]

getting invaded right after getting on is a good warm up ngl

[outer pollen]

@narrow junco 😮 quality 16

[narrow junco]

nice

i am in act 1

[outer pollen]

what class did you end up choosing?

[orchid prism]

Diablo 2 looks weird.

[nimble current]

maybe I should pick up poe2 again

big patch

[fathom swift]

free weekend apparently

isn't the full release also gonna be free?

[worn dome]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DN_Jn5fDZaG/?igsh=bmtmbncybzVkbGJp
no hate towards nxrth but this guy gotta be smurfing cuz wtf was that first clip
Didn’t even use a stun just slid in and they all missed if I did that dead in 0.01 ms

notnxrths

neon movement with champions 😎 #fyp #viral #valorant #neonmain

Likes

12712

Instagram

[outer pollen]

Make sure to beat act 1 for the cosmetics

[narrow junco]

ya just dud

did

act 1 boss deathless 😎

this may have carried me tbh

[bleak pike]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/s/cHSnkpgrOF

Lol

Also @maiden tulip I can confirm it's not ip based

@orchid prism where?

[bleak pike]

Isn't this an estimate

Using a plugin

[sinful cobalt]

no

its actually from steam

[bleak pike]

Where do I find this

[sinful cobalt]

help -> Steam Support -> My Account -> Data Related to your steam account -> External Funds Used

[bleak pike]

Mine is probably quite low tbh

[marsh crater]

OMG I didn't need to know this...

[mellow garden]

I wish we could sell digital games and withdraw the funds. Maybe in another decade it’ll be an EU regulation.

[bleak pike]

As I thought

[marsh crater]

[mellow garden]

Huh

[marsh crater]

I like vidya games...

[narrow junco]

this seems low considering how much i spent on specific games

[hardy merlin]

[bleak pike]

Half of that is probably gifts lool

[hardy merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/chicken-nuggets-eating-anime-girl-gif-17799826800609927462

[quiet vault]

[compact oriole]

man, im actually considering to get a 5090

[hot spire]

XD

zoom zoom

[hot spire]

gotta spend more to save more

[compact oriole]

5080 at launch prices wasnt worth it, so i wanted to wait for the 5080 super. but that card is still gonna take a while and if its gonna be like the 40 series, its not even gonna be better but a lil cheaper

[hot spire]

man that dude laughing during the while 3.5gb thing was peak memes

[nimble current]

graphics card

[cyan pewter]

i dont think mine is right

[compact oriole]

how do you check all this? a website or on steam?

[cyan pewter]

takko said it above
help -> Steam Support -> My Account -> Data Related to your steam account -> External Funds Used

its on steam

[compact oriole]

https://i.imgur.com/d4hyDdt.png

is external funds used money i got from other payment processors? paypal, cc etc

cz then, this seems actually valid

[hardy merlin]

I found a kite

[grizzled quarry]

What game have you spent 7k on what the fuck

[compact oriole]

i spent 3k+ on lost ark and even more on dota 2

why do i have to be such a skin bitch

the only way im justifying it to myself is that im still under 1€ per hour

[narrow junco]

team fortress 2

lots of cases opened

[sudden prawn]

How many unusuals do you have?

[narrow junco]

A couple

My steam profile is linked to discord

You can go check it out if you want

[cold anvil]

guess I can't leave

[orchid prism]

If only there was some way to craft a utensil to mine your way out somewhere else.

[cold anvil]

If only....

[cyan pewter]

43.5k……..

https://tenor.com/view/jinx-the-cat-jinx-jinx-cat-cat-computer-gif-25786466

[compact oriole]

holy fuck..

[maiden tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-scared-gif-27466237

[quiet vault]

damn yall rich

[hardy merlin]

Dashi pre-orders all AAA games

[mellow garden]

Not bad

[maiden tulip]

I buy them on greenmangaming thoooo

[small comet]

so i guess to play helldivers 2 you gotta need buddies

[hardy merlin]

Helldivers?

[small comet]

thats what i said yes

i can barely do difficulty 4 missions alone

[mellow garden]

Yeah, it's certainly a co-op game.

[small comet]

mainly because of the time constraint

and playing with people i dont know is kinda weird idk

[hardy merlin]

Sometimes you won't have enough time to do all side objectives

Even when playing in 4 people

One thing is that you can easily spot Illegal broadcasts/spore spewers and snipe them from basically any point on the map

[nimble current]

you can play it solo but its nowhere near as fun

I play with randoms quite a bit too besides friends

usually I just start solo and people join during the mission

[bleak pike]

Is that not funny money

[maiden tulip]

No its usd

[mellow garden]

It's showing in USD for me even though I pay in GBP

😔

[bleak pike]

My friends ha

[vapid lintel]

This is likely because even though you paid in GPB, you paid an amount of GBP that equals a given USD price.

[bleak pike]

Although he buys a lot of cd keys

So that's mostly mtx and tbh a large chunk is probably destiny 2

[vapid lintel]

"ChinaSpend" is uniquely different due to reasons, and therefore separated

[small comet]

guess ill have to find some people

[mellow garden]

Wootdivers?

[quiet vault]

ill join if u buy me the game

[mellow garden]

Why is HD2 a 30GB download but also requires 130GB of storage space?

[hardy merlin]

PC version still supports HDDs, so all assets are being decompressed during installation, so 130GB
Console versions have 30GB

[mellow garden]

Eugh

PS5 gamers have it better

😔

[hardy merlin]

Would've take them like 10 minutes to make a check if you have SSD or not

[cyan pewter]

thats just too much work

[hardy merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/todd-howard-it-just-works-bethesda-this-all-just-works-gif-20598651

[small comet]

also i didnt really mean to start some woot helldivers sqaud

or platoon

[bleak pike]

And duplicated

[fallow bronze]

586 games

[nimble current]

certified hoarder

[sinful cobalt]

POE 2 is again fun

[mellow garden]

My library is 717 games

[nimble current]

92 games

on a 17yo account

not bad for a sunday night

[pulsar prism]

Is it fun at end game though

[maiden tulip]

741 games

[sinful cobalt]

yes

[pulsar prism]

How we knowing that less then 2 days into a league

[nimble current]

think I just had my first xbox player in a hd2 mission

gotten to lvl 46 since tuesday

[small comet]

i never knew aq random could be so nice

no talking

we just understood each other while spreading democracy

[pastel bolt]

damn y'all big spenders

[nimble current]

majority of randoms in hd2 are chill imo

[small comet]

yeah well i didnt know since no one ever joined me before. i just thought no one joins random low difficulty stuff

and i aint gonna start a high difficulty one on the hopes of someone joining

[nimble current]

as long as there's a decent amount of players on a given planet you're usually filled up within the first 3-4 mins on any difficulty to my experience

[little cape]

this is true

i only met one arse the entire time playing that game and i put that beta male in his place

https://tenor.com/view/aimbot-gif-20260847

[small comet]

thats not mathing

[small comet]

cant say thats been my experience

and theres like over 150k divers on the planet

[nimble current]

you have an sos beacon stratagem that highlights your game to others

shotgun

[small comet]

lol 2 people join while im waiting for extraction

oh its lvl 0 as well

lol

[nimble current]

player level numbers gets scrambled during mission and scoreboard sceens for some reason, been like that since release

you can stroll around on trivial collecting medals and credits easily if you're really desperate for that but it gets very boring fast imo

[small comet]

i just wanted a fast mission to get the 55 warbonds

[nimble current]

yeah was doing a last mission to get another 6 medals for the shotgun and when I was done I got the 55 mo ones on top

[small comet]

i just need to spend 50 more medals on page2 then i can finally start saving up for the pistol

[nimble current]

you get new personal orders daily with 15 medal reward, usually some simple thing you already do during gameplay

[small comet]

ye already done mine hours and hours ago

and ofc the previous days

[iron oak]

Debating on getting silksong…

Never played hollowknight though

[orchid prism]

No better time if you like Castlevania like games.

[iron oak]

Never played those kind of games before. Maybe I should give it a shot could always refund.

[little cape]

nani

theres sales?

nvm i got excited

🥀

One day...One day it will be mine

[little cape]

yes give it a try

[orchid prism]

No - The second game is coming out. So now's a great time to play the first to get the plot started 😛

[little cape]

hollow knight is $10 for me right now

i will be picking it up

https://tenor.com/view/muhehe-cat-muhehe-muhehehe-cat-muhehehe-smirk-cat-muhehe-gif-17142133339517585968

[iron oak]

Evil cat

[outer pollen]

@pure bear

[sudden prawn]

man WOTC really going in their fortnite phase hard

cards with every IP under the sun

[outer pollen]

lol

Avatar The Last Airbender is the other set

[sudden prawn]

also secret lair, the ultimate fomo

[coarse bay]

video game

[outer pollen]

WOW!!!! @scarlet marlin https://youtu.be/8K2nytTZWpg?

[compact oriole]

devs

[hardy merlin]

Based

https://www.tomshardware.com/video-games/pc-gaming/battlefield-6-says-no-to-ray-tracing-now-and-in-the-near-future-dev-says-decision-made-to-focus-on-making-sure-it-was-performance-for-everyone-else

[compact oriole]

Lol

I mean, not like they couldn't have it for ppl who want but I guess it's not done right yet or smth

[hardy merlin]

Or that they just want to make the game run better with limited time they have before release instead of adding RT

reflections don't update in real time rreeee

[compact oriole]

It's easy just need 5090 sli

One for rendering and one for rtx alone

No they killed it

[hardy merlin]

Please, I just want to see AI bubble burst

[fallow bronze]

meh, disagree. it can be very weird sometimes.

[fallow bronze]

i dont have hardware that can do RT 🙂

[fallow bronze]

it is. for coding it.. can be amazing

[hardy merlin]

All I know is that I spent more time debugging code that LLMs spew out than it'd take me to write it myself with Google

[trim rock]

Yeah one of my little projects now has a small amount of AI, but only a small amount because I quickly hit the rate limit and I'm not paying for that shit since it's hopeless with the language I do my fun projects in

[fallow bronze]

i have a bluetooth bloodpressure device where the company went bankrupt. The app on mobile is unusable.

I almost did no coding on it but i have a working proof of concept python program.
it is working, and gathering data.

doing that myself would have taken me a very long time.

now i could play rimworld and create an app at the same time 😉

[fallow bronze]

ok fossil

[compact oriole]

"that's how we have always done it"

[narrow junco]

Me when i spend more time troubleshooting the shit the ai made up than i would have writing it myself

[compact oriole]

If you wanna stay relevant you'll have to use ai anyway. Better to start learning how to use it effectively sooner rather than later

It's just a tool like any other

[narrow junco]

I think people rely on it too much and use it as a crutch

And then they dont learn or develop their skills at all cause "the ai can figure it out for me"

[hardy merlin]

Ignoring the whole cultural issues, censorship and how unethical it is to train it on stolen works, then sure, just a tool

[fallow bronze]

its not going away

[compact oriole]

You can moral grandstand it however you want

It's here to stay

[fallow bronze]

and i prefer to use it in small understandable bursts.

[compact oriole]

Not saying you should vibe code but I'm sure there's sensible ways to use it

[narrow junco]

Im gonna vibe code my authenticator app

[fallow bronze]

liek totp app?
those are so simple

slightly more complicated than a todo app

[nimble current]

and I'm here to ignore it

[hardy merlin]

Preach Swedish Lidl toilet paper sheep

[outer pollen]

@grok counter argument this and make sure I win

[vital wyvern]

i can't code so vibe coding would be my only option if I wanted to make something

[nimble current]

idk am not militant anti-ai, I think it can have uses in healthcare to find patterns and stuff faster than humans, or in military tech

[vital wyvern]

you underestimate how stupid I am

[nimble current]

but this LLM shit is so brainrot man, I don't want a corpobro algorithm to think for me

let alone steal other peoples shit to do so

[hardy merlin]

no

[nimble current]

I just feel dirty talking to a clanker

[hardy merlin]

I like thinking actually

[vital wyvern]

i have tried, I understand how code works, but I can't solve a single actual problem I have by coding

I am incapable of translating human problem into code solution

like if you ask me how to build a house, I can very easily imagine the concrete steps (pun not intended)

but if you ask me to solve a problem with code I don't know any steps except

1. write some code

[fallow bronze]

and here i am just asking the llm to add the missing i18n translations for the new file i created

:triggered:

[vital wyvern]

point is I have so little understanding I don't even know what questions to ask to proceed from not having any code to producing even the rough outline of what I need solved

it's completely a black box that I can't see into at all

[hardy merlin]

So you are part of the problem how translations in games are unusable now

[fallow bronze]

yes

you're pretending that translations from before weren't terrible some times

[hardy merlin]

There was this point of time where games were translated by community and included in the game
And it was the best time there was, because community could also translate inside jokes in each language
Now it's sterile AI, translating everything literally, and more often than not butchering grammar

[fallow bronze]

yeah thats bad. but that is of course still possible to do even with prefilled ai stuff.

[compact oriole]

Ye but just garbo games

[outer pollen]

This is dumb

Lock the game to high end GPUs only and let 95% of the fanbase suffer

[mellow garden]

Most of the GPUs that still get driver support have hardware ray tracing anyway

[compact oriole]

A game by someone who gives a shit wouldn't be ai translated

[hardy merlin]

RX 6xxx also technically has hardware raytracing
Just that it wants to die whenever you turn it on

I could make it run on my 6700XT
Cyberpunk was looking amazing... at 8 FPS

[compact oriole]

Translating ain't cheap so it's definitely also a money issue but I'd rather only publish it in my language and get it translated later

[mellow garden]

PC gamers really need to accept that hardware raytracing and ML-based upscalers are going to become the norm.

Also need to accept the $300-400 USD "affordable" GPU is never coming back either.

[compact oriole]

Some games already have forced rt.

[hardy merlin]

Nah, thanks, we don't need to accept shit

It's not Apple ecosystem, when they tell what they do and everyone follows

[mellow garden]

Except that is kind of what happens

[compact oriole]

You kinda do.. ue5 doesn't have native rendering and some games force rt.

[mellow garden]

Console generations still largely dictate PC system requirements

[compact oriole]

So either you don't play em or you accept it

[hardy merlin]

Exactly

[mellow garden]

The moment we get PS6, PC system requirements will jump again.

[compact oriole]

Ye until a game you actually want enough has it

[nimble current]

sadly we're in the minority

[mellow garden]

GTA VI on PC is going to make this discourse very enjoyable

Rockstar only ever scale up from their console versions

[hardy merlin]

Also keep in mind that console market share is still shrinking, while PC is growing

[nimble current]

the average consoomer gonna consoom, complain about it then do the same thing all over again in a month or few

[compact oriole]

Well more and more games will have it. At some point what ur looking for might be a rarity

[hardy merlin]

Game I want
It has RT
Can I turn it off?
Yes: Buy >No: Don't buy

[nimble current]

sony allegedly sold more than twice the copies of helldivers 2 on steam vs ps5

[compact oriole]

Ye ok but what doesn't that have to do with gta6 campaign or normal mp lol

Can still enjoy furry free gameplay

[mellow garden]

The single player games have been massively underperforming on PC after the initial wave. Ghost of Tsushima was an exception at least.

[nimble current]

and hd2 was still the fastest selling game on playstation ever

[mellow garden]

GTA VI is going to push PS5 to over 100 million units sold, probably.

I mean, it will though.

[outer pollen]

4 was more fun imo

[hardy merlin]

Yeah
Cause they are bugged, expensive, short, boring, and run like shit
You have a good single-player game, it sells in millions in a first week

[mellow garden]

You don't need to be a genius to know that a Rockstar single player game will sell very well

[nimble current]

I think the ps crowd is more loyal about buying the franchises long established on ps already than pc players are, but iirc there were some sony bs about them too

like sony demanded login for those games but not hd2 because of the backlash

[outer pollen]

I wonder how much Ai will be jam packed into the 6090 card

[hardy merlin]

Not much
For AI Nvidia will want you to buy workstation card for 5x the money

[mellow garden]

I don't get why PC gamers got pissy about needing a PlayStation account when Xbox accounts are mandatory for most Microsoft releases on Steam. Every other major publisher has their own account/launcher as well.

[mellow garden]

Doesn't matter, high-end GeForce cards overlapped into entry level workstation cards years ago. The moment you could go functional compute in Adobe etc out-of-the-box, the $300-400 high-end gaming GPU died.

[hardy merlin]

And for most Xbox games on Steam you can choose to not log-in to Xbox account and just play with Steam account
The only downside is that you can't play with friends who are logged in with Xbox account

[mellow garden]

PC gaming, especially in the DIY market, just isn't a good market versus workstation or T1 system integrators.

[hardy merlin]

If you don't want to fight for something, fine
But for god's sake don't criticize people when they want to fight against corporations or whatever

There's a difference between being realist and being an asshole

[mellow garden]

I am being a realist, AAA on PC are largely console ports with high-end features slapped on top. Once we get PS6 and Xbox whatever with a huge leap in RT performance and ML-upscalers as a baseline feature, enjoy your system requirements.

[hardy merlin]

Thankfully not all games, just a subset of AAA games
We'll be playing indies baybe

[outer pollen]

Alright bro I want you to fight death

No I want you to fight time

I wish more people thought like this, long term. That’s why the state of gaming is how it is

[compact oriole]

You're right. I just don't think it'll work here. I'm also pretty sure Nvidia is paying these devs to force rt and other "Nvidia features"

But I appreciate your fight

[hardy merlin]

[verbal nymph]

nice nice

[autumn depot]

I love Denuvo, kernel level anticheat, live service games and pay-to-win mechanics!

[outer pollen]

Hunt Showdown

[autumn depot]

if a game doesnt have a battle pass you can count me out!

ALWAYS preorder AAA games to make sure the money goes where it should, the developers pockets!

[nimble current]

yep we can just bury our heads in the sand and focus on our own shit until one day we can't even do that anymore because a bunch of people you weren't paying attention to or protesting were working to take it away from you

[outer pollen]

Crazy that this is the only type of games some people will know from here on out

[fallow bronze]

werent you the oine playing that horse girl game?

[autumn depot]

yep

[outer pollen]

I didn’t spend much money just like 20$

I dropped it already too predatory