I'm using ultrawide myself I dont want to fuck my own usage xD
#🎮│game
fringe salmon
orchid prism
CS isn't competitive - A gamemode within is.
I never played a single game of Ranked Overwatched, only casual mode. And I was still stretch limited.
fringe salmon
now you get into issues like having to change technical limits for the main gamemode to accommodate others which is a bit more tricky
bleak pike
Never
orchid prism
It's hypocrisy and laziness at its finest.
Ultrawide is considered an unfair competitive edge, but allowing players to run the game at 360hz isn't?
Being able to disable settings that would otherwise render foliage and other stuff? That's been an issue in shooters for a long time.
fringe salmon
you think 25% larger view vs 15ms shorter rendertime is the same?
orchid prism
It doesn't have to be the same - They're both benefits. Either commit or loosen restrictions.
fringe salmon
one can change how you need to play the game the other doesnt
orchid prism
Categorically disagree.
fringe salmon
ok, example, on cs you are holding a point, without ultrawide you can see one entrance with ultrawide screen you can see two, if I want to go in I would need to play differently knowing if the guy could see both or is limited or it's a 50/50
if its a 60hz vs 360hz screen the play I would do is the same
orchid prism
Overwatch didn't - which is what I played. It forced stretching.
fringe salmon
ok, example, on cs you are holding a point, without ultrawide you can see one en...
or am I mistaken here and higher hz does the same as wider fov here? or is there a scenario where higher hz does the same as a bigger screen I cant think of?
fading spade
oh, thought this game had a different graphical style
it looks like a slightly more poly version of roblox
orchid prism
fading spade
massively more polygons actually
orchid prism
The way your brain works is fascinating at times.
It looks like Roblox, except not at all
fading spade
if Roblox was more HD-ified
orchid prism
So... a completely different game? 😛
pure bear
every game is minecraft with smaller blocks duh
fading spade
xd
orchid prism
Minecraft looks like Halflife, except more blocky.
Halo looks like Quake, except it's more... and so on
orchid prism
Roblox looks nothing like Subnautica - no more than literally any other game out there.
fading spade
it has the same plasticy mobile game look to it
orchid prism
Roblox is an engine, not an art style (aside from the godawful avatar characters)
nimble current
at this point am convinced sony would rather see their playstation branch go bankrupt than do the slightest thing that would benefit or help their customers
they really are that moronic
fading spade
Yeah...
fallow bronze
Subnautica was very heavy on cpu and had terrible hickups for chunk loading. They fixed a lot of that with later updates and.. General hardware improvements helped a lot
nimble current
why do japanese "entertainment" companies hate fun so much
bleak pike
fallow bronze
And tbf, the SteamDeck has a decently powerful cpu
fading spade
Half Life Alyx is a great for VR also, so many amazing custom maps <3
fringe salmon
at this point am convinced sony would rather see their playstation branch go ban...
I mean they are expanding games to sell on pc now too I think they just do it in the wrong way if this is how they expand, but imagine the fail if HD2 would never have been on pc at all
nimble current
yes, sony is recreating this scenario as we speak 
fringe salmon
I just hope they can fix the other bad decisions they are making
orchid prism
Well as far as Sony's homeland is concerned, Helldivers 2 doesn't exist on PC.
fading spade
what?
orchid prism
Japan is on the list of countries HD2 is not sold in as of today.
nimble current
they had a huge hit on their hands, the game was a fucking cultural phenomenon which does not happen often, yet they still couldn't see past their own donkeyheaded idiocy
fading spade
Japan is on the list of countries HD2 is not sold in as of today.
🤦♀️ ooohh
nimble current
there ain't enough facepalms in the world
nimble current
if they keep treating their players and studios like this they'll have 0 ps explusives for their next scamstation
fading spade
and then the Sony Ponies will have no arguements for the PS5
saying how PS5 is better cause it has exclusives
and how Xbox is killing itself by releasing its games on PC day one
fading spade
:')
fringe salmon
you vastly overestimate how many consoles players would follow this topic, gta6 release on ps5 first and so many people will buy it that dont even know what helldivers is 
fringe salmon
xbox sales are in the ground while ps is going as the previous gen still, so even if they completely fuck up and dont revert or fix this, it's not going to change anything for the console ecosystem
fading spade
yeah
nimble current
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/602362713863094322/1236635982963544196/im...
ahh yes, my other favourite game
which also was close to be axed because of the whole unity shitshow
good fucking god can we just have some games to enjoy without a corporate shitstain trying to kill it with profit
fading spade
it doesnt help that most indie games are either farming sims. 2d platformers, metrodvanias or isometric turn based combat
or horrorengine spooky puzzle games
feral ferry
xbox sales are in the ground while ps is going as the previous gen still, so eve...
I gave some thought to the topic, and with newly releasing hardware, I think the whole console concept is dead
Xbox could profit SO much more by releasing a console-priced PC
fading spade
Xbox Deck when?
feral ferry
Stuff a Strix Halo into it lol and price it as cheap as possible, will be as effective at gaming a midrange PC
It is possible, and I see the market for it so much more
Release games under "Xbox optimized" label which are basically PC games just guaranteed to run at like idk, 4K60 on a strix halo medium/high?
You lose nothing in effect, but gain so much more
nimble current
japanese entertainment company not sodomizing their customers challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
fading spade
Geforce Now is Beta on Steam Deck....interesting, didnt think Nvidia, who dont want to help Wayland devs fix issues with their drivers, are willingly putting effort into making it easy to use Geforce Now
young hill
Xbox Deck when?
Just use xcloud
orchid prism
Shame it's AI generated.
hot spire
fading spade
Valve found their formula and it works
and they just letting it roll on its own!
Everyone is trying to climb to their height and bringing themselves down
mainly cause software issues, the thing Valve knows is the winning factor
Epic are trying to get people to use their launcher via free game promos and locking new games to their launcher for a year before they can go onto Steam and its not working, just ruining the game's potential sales for the studio who made it and making more people angry that Epic Launcher is so barebones that it doesnt even support controllers in their launcher
pure bear
its really ridiculous how far you can get today if you qre just not doing beancounting
still spire
My thing is, all these guys abandoned PC decades ago saying it was not a viable place for video games
They come back, and they want to stand next to Valve in the space with none of the legwork
fading spade
yep...
Nah, that piracy quote from Gabe is everything you need to know about why Valve is where it is today
and their actions to prove they meant that quote
quiet vault
Lazy a company
fading spade
maybe thats a good thing, they already have a seemingly infinite source of income, what else do they need?
and they know that
quiet vault
they should care more about their games maybe
fading spade
They can get lazy, they have the winning formula already, eveyrthing else they do is a side project to them at this rate
Though
The Deck is their new baby
And I feel they'll be doing this long term
Every couple of years a new Deck
Not that bad
And lots of software support between models like the current ones
still spire
Deck-ard.
pulsar prism
The revenue per employee ratio at valve be crazy
trim rock
Well yeah that's what their internal emails were talking about
fading spade
Or is that holiday already over?
pulsar prism
I know old Gabe spent couple years in NZ during covid
fading spade
OMFH LOL
I didn't know that they would bring extended family too
That's so awesome 💜
still spire
Valve is a fantastic place to work I've heard, just not if you want to make video games that release.
fading spade
Xd
fading spade
Candy bar?!
still spire
yes
They had a candy bar
They got rid of it due to health concerns or something. Free for all employees it was of course
You know, the diabeetus
pure bear
I would die
still spire
Same
https://youtu.be/AhJVC3qeiio?si=a21qOui-37KxwJc0&t=338 You can kinda see some of it here, I can't find the exact video of the candy bar though, it's been so long
trim rock
Big pink cookie
still spire
orchid prism
It skips Japan. Tsh
fading spade
fading spade
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/380707718266355712/1236672939949162537/ru...
suddenly katyusha
why is it a thing for AAA publishers to try to race to see who can enshittify their games the fastest?
trim rock
Because the business people want to see bigger numbers
fading spade
true...
nimble current
I doubt they'll actually profit from this move 
its more about pride for jp companies like nintendo and sony
young hill
https://i.pinimg.com/1200x/a0/66/ed/a066ed2882def726a69537a9656e6f68.jpg
I miss that, so much changed due to covid paranoia
Now most shops you can only buy a box not any less.
still spire
proper basin
Garden warfare 2 will always be one of my favorite third person shooters
nimble current
back when mobile game developers hadn't fully grasped the profitability of the market and still cared about making actually fun games
nimble current
wow they published these games I don't care about and removed the one I did, good guy sony
fading spade
Damn, Ponies be snuffing that copeium
Injecting it right into their viens
at least they used the right they're
hardy merlin
Meanwhile me who thought making a PSN account was mandatory when I launched the game first time 
fringe salmon
yeah it used to be
that argument is still bs, the issue is now people in countries who got the game cant play it anymore
if psn was available in all regions this wouldnt be an issue really imo
hardy merlin
Sure is, "somehow" game works perfectly fine without PSN...
fringe salmon
it was mandatory on launch but got disabled by them due to server issues
hardy merlin
I started playing about 3 weeks after release, I'm not sure if it was then
fringe salmon
idk when it was changed as I started when it was not needed
hardy merlin
Anywho, I won't refund, as I got a key 
nimble current
yeah never had to do it either
hardy merlin
My negative review won't do nothing either... because I got a key
pure bear
this is your brain on console fanboyism
pulsar prism
I refunded it but I had only played for 90 minutes anyway
pure bear
i just wanna see sony get shat on
nimble current
really depressing to see what its doing to the game though
hardy merlin
You don't kill a goose which lays golden eggs
But some shareholders seem to have a craving for foie gras
proper basin
Shareholders seeing a number go down a single digit panicking
Now we going down multiple digits
hardy merlin
I think it's not about the money
My bet is that moving with live service to PC was to make account number go up, to show that the platform is worth investing in
Other than that HD2 would be a corporate wet dream - paid game, live service, microtransactions, monthly paid DLCs and excellent player retention
fringe salmon
looking at it now I think it's just a result of a unfortunate chain of events not something super malicous
it was supposed to launch with psn account being needed, to make crossplay and cross progression a thing
and supposedly better moderation/ban tools
then it got disabled bc issue at launch and now after it works most people think it was a bait and switch
pure bear
but why did it ever get sold in countries taht cant have PSN if it was always supposed to have it
that is plain scummy
from someone
hardy merlin
Cross-play worked just fine without PSN account, and you could connect your PSN account for cross-progression anytime you wanted
And they'd go with it through Arrowhead first if it weren't to be malicious
fringe salmon
the listing could just have been an accident, miscommunication and if they had kept psn lock I imagine they would have had people complain about it and then they would have delisted it back then if I were to guess
since it did say that on day one and I can't really imagine them sitting there cackling how they can scam a few peoples money by not listing it correctly and dealing with refunds once those people notice they cant play
hardy merlin
Nah, they weren't about scamming people
More about account number goes up, but not fast enough
fringe salmon
I mean they clearly did not expect the amount of people that they got so it would not have been that much of an expected increase as of the lower numbers that would have only been a subset of people
too many things where I can just see this or that being a mistake than an intentional thing
bleak pike
dreamy rain
Stop being a pansy
pulsar prism
Classic console wars holding onto their exclusives so they have something to justify they made the correct choice 👌
hardy merlin
orchid prism
nimble current
its truly fascinating how there's people still simping for major corporations in 2024
like these companies couldn't give less of a shit about them
bleak pike
<:hanapouting:814818681678594069>
But but preservation
hardy merlin
But discount
It's the same on Steam, devs give free patch to download on their website 
Huh, that's a new one https://store.steampowered.com/app/983870/FOUNDRY
heavy gull
i was looking at this one, still undecided hm
dreamy rain
Looks like a 2D version of satisfactory
hardy merlin
I'll wait until it's a bit further in EA, doesn't look like something more than Factorio or Satisfactory
bleak pike
Huh, that's a new one https://store.steampowered.com/app/983870/FOUNDRY
It's so shit
I tried it
hardy merlin
Oh
That saves me 120zł
bleak pike
Then again that was like two or three months ago
But it was just so not nice to play
Me and my friend ironically just ended up thinking huh shall we play SF again and went onto playing that instead.
heavy gull
in that case ill just stick with sf as well
fallow bronze
Makes sense for an Ai character
slim token
much prefer an assertive artificial voice over humans trying to simulate it with their own acting
makes me recoil a bit
echo cedar
https://imgur.com/MRmRbij
I just played 11 rounds of 2v5 lmao
https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/BaldFatUglyShort%23Jover/matches?playlist=competitive&seasonId=4539cac3-47ae-90e5-3d01-b3812ca3274e
novel umbra
Looks like a 2D version of satisfactory
you mean a 3d version of factorio?
was looking at it mainly because I don't like satisfactory
since to me building shit doesn't feel good in it
fading spade
burnt spear
if psn was available in all regions this wouldnt be an issue really imo
nah, sony is notorious for being hacked and shit, I dont want them having any of my data
fringe salmon
you wouldn't really give them any data
uk aside you can just make an account with false info
burnt spear
And then have that account linked to my steam.
fringe salmon
just like for origin or uplay etc.
burnt spear
I dont like it
its icky
I dont use uplay or origin
for those exacxt reasons
Why does sony NEED me to create a PSN so bad?
there is no technical reason
they just want to collect data to make $$, they can fuck off
but unlike sony, uplay and origin don't get hacked every monday.
burnt spear
to moderate more efficiently apparently
they gotta say something for all the bootlickers to parrot
even if it makes no sense and is not true lol
nimble current
I mean they coulda just programmed features like that into the game by other means, but sony likely insisted on having their shitty services handle it
fringe salmon
moderate and cross progression
nimble current
so it nescessitates registering to their network
burnt spear
I dont own a playstation, I don't need cross progression.
fringe salmon
but yeah I agree with the arguments its not needed etc. but sony security isn't really a reason when you dont lose any data
burnt spear
And they can ban my steam account if I say some racist shit in chat.
I don't understand why I need to link my steam to PSN
burnt spear
but yeah I agree with the arguments its not needed etc. but sony security isn't ...
It is a reason.
fringe salmon
I guess, I would say a reason that doesnt affect you isn't a valid complaint
burnt spear
Your security is only as strong as it's weakest link.
What do you mean it wouldnt affect me?!
the fuck
fringe salmon
imagine there is a data breach
burnt spear
and my psn account is out
nimble current
but yeah I agree with the arguments its not needed etc. but sony security isn't ...
I'd just prefer not having my data ending up in hackers hands
nimble current
and that risk seems exponentially higher with sony than with many other services
fringe salmon
imagine there is a data breach
and they get that you said you are Joe fakename living at fakeRoad 123, that doesnt change anything
nimble current
if sony actually showed they're taking the security criticism seriously and strived towards making improvements I wouldn't be so quick to call bs lies on their security arguments
fringe salmon
I'm not advocating for it, I'm saying it doesnt really undermine your security even if something happens
your steam account can be found by just any bot going through all steamids, the psn doesnt have any more info to it
burnt spear
Easy to say it's fine and it is fine until it isn't because someone found a loophole or a work around or some form of process or technique to shit on your day.
Id personally rather just avoid the headache entirely
fringe salmon
work around of what
burnt spear
I do not like linking random accounts to each other, its just bad practice.
nimble current
I like this game too much to give up playing it, its just really depressing to me what this is doing to the games community and its future
burnt spear
That's just my personal philosophy on privacy and security.
hardy merlin
No loophole
Just your steamID is being assigned to PSN account
You have to login only to verify that it's your account, just like you'd connect to any site that needs login through Steam
And all information is publicly available anyways
fringe salmon
Well yes I dont disagree there but I dont see how anything changes if sony gets hacked every other year vs them never getting hacked in this case
burnt spear
Its the principal.
hardy merlin
If it's the principal...
fringe salmon
that is fine then but then it's not relevant how often sony gets hacked
if its for principal they could have a world record in not getting hacked and it would be the same
burnt spear
that is fine then but then it's not relevant how often sony gets hacked
because the more often sony's system gets comrpromised, the more concerning it is that I am forced to use their services for no reason.
Using fake PSN data is dumb
fringe salmon
what is concerning though
burnt spear
just don't make me use it, the fuck.
bleak pike
Using fake PSN data is dumb
Sadly I can't lol
burnt spear
Sadly I can't lol
thats also what quin is missing, you literally need IDs and shit to create a PSN
and in some countries you cant even do it
hardy merlin
Ok then, but don't say it's about security or privacy, but about choice
If it's for privacy principle, I'll just say that you using Windows is more of an privacy issue than linking accounts 
burnt spear
Ok then, but don't say it's about security or privacy, but about *choice*
If it'...
It's about a lot of things.
fringe salmon
again I'm not saying they should use it, I'm arguing them being notorious or not for being hacked shouldnt change if you want to link it or not
and its the other way around, you can make a psn without an id except in the UK
there I understand it
but for anyone else who doesnt have to send in any data? what can be compromised?
burnt spear
again I'm not saying they should use it, I'm arguing them being notorious or not...
A company notorious for being hacked forcing you to give them your info shouldn't change my decision? Smooth brain take
burnt spear
If there is no info involved, why do they need me to make an account.
I don't need to be in the UK for it to be a stupid policy man
fringe salmon
because they want to entice people to use psn and make numbers look good
burnt spear
forcing people to use something is not enticing
fringe salmon
no but in the UK an ID is needed, elswhere not
by enticing I mean have them make an account and entice using it for others, thats why they want people to use it
burnt spear
use it for what?
I don't have a playstation
clearly ive gone years without needing a PSN
fringe salmon
ps+ lets you play ps games on pc
burnt spear
No it doesnt
not if you dont own a playstation already
I can't just get PS+ now and play spiderman 2 or god of war 2 on PC
still spire
Lol
burnt spear
Anyway, we are getting sidetracked nad moving goal posts.
still spire
No he said they should add it as enticement
fringe salmon
I thought they let you have older consoles games? but yeah besides the point
burnt spear
TLDR fuck sony and fuck PSN
I dont really need to explain why I think its icky
I think its stupid so I wont do it, and I will voice my opinion on it.
fringe salmon
my point is you can totally say that and I agree, but if you dont give them data, their hacking record isnt relevant
burnt spear
my point is you can totally say that and I agree, but if you dont give them data...
we are just going in circles
hardy merlin
Sure, fuck Sony, I'd refund if I could
But still - this has nothing to do with security or privacy (well, unless you need ID to create an account)
fringe salmon
well you arent saying what data you could lose
burnt spear
Sure, fuck Sony, I'd refund if I could
But still - this has nothing to do with s...
needing an ID to create an account is a bad precedent
now its the UK
before we know it
fringe salmon
you dont need an Id outside the UK
still spire
Psn ate my baby
burnt spear
because people like Quin encouraged the world to use fake info, we are now all going to be forced ot use our IDs
yall stupid if you don't see that changing
fringe salmon
and its not because of sony its because of UK rules
burnt spear
Theres similar rules being cooked in Canada
and we are back to the same argument of I dont wanna give my data to sony for no reason
burnt spear
My Identity is data
my email is data
my use of their service and every move I make is data
still spire
Data is alive
hardy merlin
Just use a throwaway mail
burnt spear
Just use a throwaway mail <:PeepoShrug:1060552102457380984>
it's absurd that yall are just saying "use fake info and fake email"
fringe salmon
any email allows you to make alias or other emails if you dont want to use a main email
fringe salmon
ok that is a fair point
hardy merlin
It's not absurd, just reality on the internet
I have around 30 mailboxes, it's obvious I won't use my main one for everything
burnt spear
you don't say yes daddy
burnt spear
It's not absurd, just reality on the internet
I have around 30 mailboxes, it's o...
I'm aware, I'm the same way, and I do not want to use yet ANOTHER email, especially when I am getting NOTHING out of it and only potentially have something to lose.
still spire
hardy merlin
Fair
burnt spear
Besides, today it's just Helldivers, tomorrow it's if am playing a third party game and I want to play cross platform, suddenly I need to link PSN too for "moderation reasons"
still spire
Got
Ghost of tsushima comes with the new PSN overlay and requires a PSN account to play online even if it's not cross platform
unique bane
Sony will be getting nice IP's soon with the Paramount buyout. New Indiana Jones game anyone??
burnt spear
Ghost of tsushima comes with the new PSN overlay and requires a PSN account to p...
isn't that a single player game?
unique bane
Star Trek as well.
still spire
Mostly, but it does have an online element
burnt spear
Can you just NOT do the online element and not use PSN or is it forced on you?
still spire
What they ned to do is make PSN optional, apologize profusely, and then put the game on 50% discount with a free weekend, double XP/Credits AND Supercredits and I'd say they could earn back a lot of good will.
bleak pike
Just removing PSN required alone is enough
still spire
I tihnk they need to go extra to get people back into it, they got a new BP coming out in a few days
People are actually trying to organize a mass "No play" day on it's release
Probably won't do anything
But a neat idea
hardy merlin
Given they took away access to the game from about a half of playerbase...
fringe salmon
Probably won't do anything
yeah I doubt much would happen, never forget mw2
nimble current
feelsbadman when its the first game I've genuinely gotten hooked on in like 3 or 4 years and then sony does this to it
still spire
Yeah I hadn't really played in over a month but I was excited to go back eventually after some more content had been released, now they nuked the game pretty much
nimble current
I still play almost daily for a few hrs a time at least
pretty much unlocked everything there is everywhere
maxed out my samples
fringe salmon
yeah I mean I mostly play with people who are on playstation so nothing changes for me but now knowing that psn is not available in so many places does leave a sour taste
nimble current
was really looking forward biting into the new warbond
now its gonna feel all gloomy 
fringe salmon
like if it was just an account you could make anywhere I wouldn't have any issues with it more than I already do but I still made a uplay account for siege etc.
nimble current
yeah that and sonys horrible security, other than that it would mostly be a few mins nuicance and nothing more
fringe salmon
I mean I aint arguing that point again xD not using any real data so couldnt care less about their security
nimble current
but now its nuking a considerable part of the playerbase from orbit
and leaves a bad taste in everyones mouths, current and new players considering it alike
fringe salmon
it is sad to think about that if they would have not made the decision to remove the link at the start to fix servers this would have never gotten to this point
still spire
nimble current
or actually selling the game in 100+ regions where they shouldn't have for months
they created this chaos from the start
still spire
it is sad to think about that if they would have not made the decision to remove...
Well actually this part is damning
The account linking had to be bypassed for the game to be playable apparently
bleak pike
https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2024/05/01/stellar-blade-is-now-the-highe...
I'm falling for the hype everyday
still spire
So...that's kinda a point against not having account linking required?
bleak pike
I need waifu
still spire
If the system literally prevented people from playing because there were too many people playing, seems like a bad system...and everyone works just fine without it?
fringe salmon
I mean idk what happened at the start but I imagine if there was something said about it need some time to fix people would have been understanding at that point still
nimble current
https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2024/05/01/stellar-blade-is-now-the-highe...
typical of todays society, something is either the best thing EVAR OMG or like the worst that's ever been so bad its literally hitler and cancer combined
there's no middle ground in public discourse
fringe salmon
it's a bit too much""what if" though but just interesting to see that they only ended up here by trying to ease launch issues
still spire
Stellar Blade x Helldivers crossover
Let's goooo
Big Booty Helldivers, Eve in a Helldivers uniform.
bleak pike
Yes
still spire
lol
nimble current
no staining democracy with jrpg filth
still spire
Bruh have you seen the OFFICIAL Twitter posts about Eagle-1?
nimble current
the fanart?
nimble current
sure
bleak pike
Thanks I hate it
still spire
lol
bleak pike
Doesn't remotely look like her
still spire
Lol no, that's quite the mixup
We'll have to wait for the PC version, then someone can make her a Helldivers outfit, if the game is still around by then
bleak pike
If we get the pc version
hardy merlin
More when, not if
Sony is very careful to specify everywhere that it's PS5 console-exclusive, not PS5 exclusive
Same was with Horizon Forbidden West and they changed information on Ghost of Tsushima the same way - those are PS4/PS5 console-exclusives now
still spire
Also, it's 100%
they had a PC version already done before launch
- It's UE4. 2. It was originally going to come to PC. 3 It's a sony game like mentioned so of course.
hardy merlin
- More money
still spire
I mean it's dickish we don't get it at launch, especially considering Sony didn't buy the studio, doesn't own the IP, and didn't fund the game
Though 99% of reddit comments are "Sony should buy the studio, they'd do well at Sony"
fading spade
hardy merlin
2 hours is automatic refund time, you can still ask for it after that time
And it looks like they booted Spitz, the CM who suggested downvoting and asking for refunds... https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1cl3a4o/spitz_its_gone/
fading spade
Bruh
dreamy rain
Looking to upgrade my mouse, what type of mouses do you guys use
proper basin
Using the beast x 8k now
severe compass
Community managers are probably trying to force Sony to remove the PSN requirements
fading spade
I didn't even know Sony were involved in this game when it first came out
Then all this shit happens
dreamy rain
These look like they cost more than they do,was surprised to see how affordable they were, gonna arrive today by night
dreamy rain
Logitech g305
Saw that one in stores and thought about it
fading spade
It's legit so damn good
Didn't even need to replace the battery yet since getting it
dreamy rain
What type of batteries does it take
dreamy rain
Damn, actually gonna plan to get it then, i got 8 rechargeable double A’s just lying around
Thank you for recommending it
fading spade
Oh nice!
Just keep in mind
It can't be used with a cable
Wireless dongle only
Which isn't a problem for me cause it's really fast
I think sometimes it's faster than the wired mouse I had before it
dreamy rain
Thats fine, gonna be plugged in all the time
Dongle is gonna be right next to the mouse
fading spade
Ahh
Ok
Nice!
It does come with an extension cable too if the dongle is plugged into the back of a PC or whatever too
dreamy rain
Thats neat
fading spade
The left and right buttons are a tad loud though
Like a mechanical keyboard press level of volume
So maybe see if you can test it at the shop first
dreamy rain
Are they like viper mini type of loud
fading spade
I have no idea!
dreamy rain
its alright, ill check them out before i buy it
fading spade
Apparently the mx Master has silent clicks
But it's bulkier too
Also
Fake transparent background
Ughh
rancid hearth
Apparently the mx Master has silent clicks
only on the S version
the orginal 3 is not dampened
pulsar prism
Yeah I have the 3s, good office mouse 👌
Don't recommend for gaming since it maxes out at 125hz polling though
Battery lasts like half a year though
rancid hearth
Don't recommend for gaming since it maxes out at 125hz polling though <:dogekek...
eh I still use it
in the end skill triumphs all
pulsar prism
eh I still use it
Man that mouse is unplayable outside of casual gaming, the sensor latency is baddd
pulsar prism
I don't have to look at the stats to know this mouse feels unresponsive and laggy when using it for gaming, idk what to tell you it literally polls 8x slower than a standard gaming mouse
rancid hearth
stats can also increase the amount of potential placebo felt, which causes bias
realistically if we compare it to the g502 lightspeed it doesn't look bad
what matters is consistency, as that means you'll be able to adapt to it
pulsar prism
My brother it is a terrible mouse for gaming I don't know what to tell you the stats you're linking are 2-4x better still
proper basin
Beast x nice
rancid hearth
lol
orchid thicket
Apparently the mx Master has silent clicks
I would 100% use this mouse but the latency is pretty bad from what i've heard
bleak pike
I was just about to post this
still spire
Sony walked back
still spire
This never happens
Like all the previous review bombs and protests or whatever?
Nothing came of them
But this one was apparently different
still spire
Let us help our PlayStation brothers next
bleak pike
And a letter apology
still spire
Let us make Sony have PS+ not be a requirement for online games on Playstation
I wish, that'd be a real major win
pure bear
this is really something new
novel umbra
Let us make Sony have PS+ not be a requirement for online games on Playstation
i'd understand it if they actually hsoted the servers for said games
orchid prism
https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1787331667616829929?t=NhwAEm4fGpVJj-UyI1l...
Nice nice nice.
Shame it has to come at the cost of cross play (I assume)
hardy merlin
It is
Everything goes through HD2's servers
orchid prism
I have a strong feeling this whole thing came at a cost of Sony's cooperation.
hardy merlin
SNOY 
I think so? Not sure what Sony plans to do next, but the game is well balanced now, content and balance patches are going strong, they don't seem to care about patching farming premium currency...
still spire
Shame it has to come at the cost of cross play (I assume)
Nope
Crossplay still works
orchid prism
Lets not make such conclusions until the dust actually settles. Pretty sure the game is still not for sale in all of the aforementiond countries.
hardy merlin
Volvo has to remove the purchase restrictions
I hope it's just a matter of time, but yeah... I wonder what Sony is cooking now
deft bloom
something else
elder totem
figured out a good use case for abusing wooting's capacities
dashing in gunz
the basic idea is to abuse the fact that gunz can let you map two buttons for each input you can do
Button config has both 2 and W set to forward movement
first lap around the platform, is doubletapping W like normal
second lap is sliding from 2 to W to get an instant forward dash
so combine that with 0.1mm actuation and 0.15mm release and you get instant dashes with slide inputs
elder totem
what's DKS
elder totem
if that enables the key to bind "press, release, press again" then to me that crosses the barrier into macro territory
small comet
thats the whole debate since it needs to be pressed to certain depths for it to work
on one hand its a single key on the other hand you have to pass some of the 4 actuation depths to get certain behaviour depending on configuration
elder totem
it would also require me to get better at partial presses and that's a whole other can of execution worms
in the above video, the only execution i have to do is a curlback with my finger
like a scratch motion
still spire
Man if gamers had just been pushing back against Sony, Microsoft and others decades ago, we'd be so much better off now
elder totem
i basically would have to get used to doing partial presses in order to press W for forward without dashing
and then only do a full press to get press, nothing, press
small comet
and thats why some argue its not a macro
elder totem
it's extremely shaky territory but i would rule it as a macro and not allow it in competitive play
if I were a TO
that's too much extra witchcraft to be fair
small comet
meanwhile others would judge it increases the skill ceiling as you now need precision control of the depth of press and not just spamming keys
so to say a third dimension ot using a keyboard
elder totem
which would be a fair argument to make if you were designing a game with the assumption that players were going to use analog keys in the game and everyone was going to be on an even playing field
narrow junco
I think it really depends on the game and how "unfair advantage" is defined
elder totem
having a higher skill cieling to use macro witchcraft doesn't mean it isn't a qualitatively different input that, when made equivalent to the type of input most controllers have to do, will make multiple inputs per singular input comparatively
small comet
it also depends on how analog moves forward
elder totem
which is what puts it into macro territory for me
small comet
more and more keyboard implement their own DKS
narrow junco
Wdym "nah"
elder totem
it's far harder to argue what i posted is cheating, and not just a natural consequence of optimising the performance of an existing peripheral
instead of adding qualitatively different features
small comet
dks would also just be optimising the performance of an existing peripheral though
we didnt make it for the game
narrow junco
Some games consider rapid trigger to be illegal in tournament setting, some think dks is cheating and some dont think either are a problem
Up to whoever runs the game at the end
elder totem
rapid trigger is def an advantage but it's hard justifiably say how it's cheating
hardy merlin
Counterpoint - macro has always consistent timing
For DKS you can set depths, not timing, so you still need skill to invoke time-precise actions
If we're going this rabbit hole, then rapid trigger is also an unfair advantage, since you can send inputs faster than other players
small comet
but yeah ultimately i think no matter what you do as wizard said you will always have to either ask the devs or hope you know what they want
small comet
rapid trigger is def an advantage but it's hard justifiably say how it's cheatin...
well its a feature traditional keyboards cant have so you pay to win essentially
and a lot of people make that argument
elder totem
the only consistent option is to have standardised equipment for a tournament
small comet
just like DKS the issue is that RT is sort of bleeding edge keyboard tech rn
elder totem
Counterpoint - macro has always consistent timing
For DKS you can set depths, no...
that arg against rapid trigger doesn't work since that argument would equally apply to having a better quality wire, or better polling rate, or other optimisations that don't add anything qualitatively different. so a different argument would have to be made
small comet
it doesnt matter that DKS has been in keyboards since 2016. it also doesnt matter that RT is on keyboards since a few years since the main issue is mass adoption of such features
getting a 1khz board is easy for low money
so the barrier of entry isnt spend 160eur or more
hardy merlin
Then argument against DKS doesn't work either, since some keyboards/mice straight up allow for creating hardware macros, auto-clickers etc.
UwU is €50, does have RT and DKS 
small comet
good point we do have a low cost device
elder totem
Then argument against DKS doesn't work either, since some keyboards/mice straigh...
I'm not sure how that follows, since you could easily just ban the use of the features of those hardware macros and autoclickers.
A ban on macros is inclusive on both software and hardware macros
The point regarding consistent execution timing on macros was a better point that requires some thought to make a point against
nothing is coming to mind now though. just pointing out that the other arguments don't work
small comet
well all of the arguments work
elder totem
i'm not talking about banning a peripheral because it has a feature, i'm talking about banning the use of the feature
small comet
it depends on what arguments the dev thinks are valid
for all we know they do the same as some big games do where hardware macros are ok cause we can disallow configuration software for the keyboards most people use while AHK and such would get you banned
elder totem
if they allow hardware macros but disallow software macros then that's wack lol
narrow junco
Depends on the game
small comet
happens in a lot of games
narrow junco
Ik poe bans all macros and probably also dks
small comet
yeah it really depends on the game of what is banned and what isnt even if the ToS would imply all macros are banned
same for modding online games
some games are less strict with enforcing it than others
orchid prism
if they allow hardware macros but disallow software macros then that's wack lol
You can't ban (i.e. block) hardware macros, you can try to DETECT them however.
elder totem
note, i come from a fighting game background so when i talk about banning i'm talking about tournament rulesets
not about what's feasible to detect for competitive matchmaking
orchid prism
Sure. And I'm talking about the actual blocking of such.
I agree that banning one but not the other on paper rules is silly.
small comet
even in tournament settings its hard to determine hardware macros unless all staff enforcing rules are cheacking each keyboard and know the software etc
theres a lot of hoops to go through if youd want to do this properly
orchid prism
I guess there's a reason why they ask players to lock up keyboards between games 😄
small comet
correct
elder totem
Yes. The risk would be, if they are eventually found out, they're banned from competitive play.
small comet
its also why they dont bring their own PCs and such
small comet
Yes. The risk would be, if they are eventually found out, they're banned from co...
which isnt a risk for a lot of pros apparently since some still use hacks during qualifying matches for LANs and such when playing from home
and then also the people who used steam workshop maps for csgo to load cheats
never underestimate people who are deadset on hacking/cheating
elder totem
gosh. the culture in those bigger games is quite different to what i'm used to lol
small comet
well its more the general size and that it often goes corporate
so times short and having people play as much as possible for engagement etc is key (at least that what it looks like)
still spire
Lol
bleak pike
I saw this before and chucked
But then you sent that fake tweet screenshot and it made me rethink it
fading spade
id rather link my account to a known crypto scammer than to Sony's network
Charlie - 2024
:')
hardy merlin
orchid prism
small comet
<:dogekek:1134256020156317706>
the obvious name would be orbital precision strike
cause thats what sony got
clever elk
the obvious name would be orbital precision strike
Nah we 380MM orbital strike’d their ass
orchid prism
Sony tried to burn the land with napalm. It did not work.
hardy merlin
Sony used napalm
It's not very effective
small comet
Sony used napalm
It hurt itself in its confusion!
clever elk
community used review bomb
it’s super effective
Sony and other publishers learning PC players won’t deal with their bullshit
fading spade
the BS is the 170+ regions that can no longer play the game because of this stupid not needed account
hardy merlin
Cannot buy
Thankfully the full mandatory PSN account update wasn't introduced at all
clever elk
Well it’s over turned now so they’ll probably change that
still spire
Perhaps.
hardy merlin
If that's Valve's decision then they'll do so
If Sony then... eh... maybe?
fading spade
Why would making a Sony account mandatory be Valve's idea?
still spire
"Sony has decided that due to lost revenue from PC ports, all PC ports will cost 10$ over standard MSRP"
fading spade
is that real? cause I believe that
still spire
No, but it'd be very Sony like
"No accounts eh? Then pay extra!"
I posted that Sony should remove PS+ as a requirement for online play and my responses have been overwhelmingly negative on r/PS5 and I was just trying to say they should fight for their rights too lol.
The best argument so far is "Microsoft charges, Nintendo charges, why not Sony?!"
We are lost
hardy merlin
Why would making a Sony account mandatory be Valve's idea?
We don't know who restricted purchases on Steam, Valve or Sony
hardy merlin
That's... what we talked about, yes
Wakey wakey, it's 11 already 
narrow junco
Crop out opera gx next time pls
fringe salmon
fading spade
Crop out opera gx next time pls
true
fading spade
No, I didnt. I just never saw the official post they made confirming it
I just took other peoples word for it
fringe salmon
given it was some YouTube comment it was probably an old video she was watching while everyone else posted memes about it being over
nimble current
holy crap sony actually backed down
fringe salmon
I did call it
fading spade
Yeah, they backtracked cause a significant portion of their playbase would no longer legally be able to play it and then they would have to spend money to give refunds and they dont wanna spend refund money
all the backlash they got made them revert, they wouldnt do it otherwise
fringe salmon
Did I say anything that disagrees with that?
fading spade
no
hardy merlin
To be fair Pilestedt did a great job about communicating with players
So did some CMs (some other not so much...)
nimble current
yeah they could do some tidying in the CM ranks over there that's for sure
fading spade
idk if the game is ever going to get most of the playbase back though, most people already refunded it, I dont know if/when its gonna get added back to steam or if it will, or will it be only available on sony's website
nimble current
sony apparently hasn't reverted on pulling the game from certain markets yet though, I hope that's coming still
without psn it shouldn't be an issue
fading spade
:/
nimble current
unless sony plans another switcharoo down the line
hardy merlin
yeah they could do some tidying in the CM ranks over there that's for sure
Twinbeard is a real OG, Spitz helped a lot too, Baskinator was only spreading some bs
nimble current
yeah no, maybe a few percent at most refunded
fringe salmon
Look an Internet outrage is never representative of the real numbers when half the people play with friends and don’t Reddit or anything about it
nimble current
like the playercount barely dipped at all during these turbulent days
fringe salmon
Active playercount didn’t even dip much when this went on
Also what are you talking about added back to steam it was never gone
The places where the buy button vanished are not countries where most players are from either
orchid prism
It was indeed.
fringe salmon
Yeah that’s different from removing it from steam for the intent of having to „add it back to steam“
orchid prism
That's an assumption on your part.
fringe salmon
No.. that are things you can see from the public steam api?
hardy merlin
Delisted, but not sure whether by Sony or by Valve to avoid more kerfuffle
orchid prism
No.. that are things you can see from the public steam api?
You're assuming it's getting relisted.
fringe salmon
Lana talked about it only being available on Sonys website… when all they could do is sell steam keys?
So yes it would be relisted?
hardy merlin
If it was delisted by Valve then it'll be once Sony releases official statement about it, not only a Twitter post
If it was delisted by Sony, then it may or may not be relisted
fading spade
nah, they can host the game itself there
fringe salmon
And host steam integration without running steam? That’s news to me how that would work
hardy merlin
Free stuff, yes! I like free stuff 
orchid prism
The sheer implied entitlement
fringe salmon
Like no, most people did not refund most people did the same thing they did the day before this started
still spire
nimble current
ahh yes, console fanboy brainrot
sony simps probably seething out of their eyeballs now that their corpodaddy failed to force the pc crowd into their cult
hardy merlin
Gotta love people on r/playstation
- Just create an account lol
But you can't create PSN account in most countries on the world, so you can't play the game here
- I don't give a fuck lol
fading spade
fucking copium
does that mean if you buy a playstation in one of those regions, you basically cant use it?
hardy merlin
Not sure if you need PSN account to update disc game
But multiplayer/PS+ is certainly out of window
narrow junco
You have to pretend your playstation is somewhere else
still spire
Which violates Sonys ToS and they may ban you and you lose access to all your games
fading spade
^
fringe salmon
You can just use it offline and play disk games
So you can use the console and everything singleplayer
fallow bronze
dont a lot of games require day one patches?
fringe salmon
Eh not really on consoles because they mandate the discs to ship a playable version
And as cal said I think updates also work without PSN
still spire
Cyberpunk 2077
orchid prism
That doesn't sound like Sony at all. Given their dislike for jailbroken consoles.
fringe salmon
Correct me if I’m wrong but I think that’s been the case for all PlayStations that you could just use them offline?
And yes cp77 is one noteworthy exception xD
hardy merlin
I'm 100% certain you could update games without PSN account on PS3, not sure about PS4/PS5
still spire
No Mans SKy
No youc an'
You can't
I own a PS5
and when logged out of PSN, it says I need to login to update
fringe salmon
But does it say that when you never log in on the console on setup?
I don’t remember because I made a PSN account to claim my free god of war copy lol
orchid prism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCO-4tF-Wys
Half-life meets survival crafting games. Unironically looks kind of fun.
It even has those classic Half-Life style NPCs with the dialogue.
fading spade
🤔
fading spade
😅
nimble current
Gotta love people on r/playstation
> - Just create an account lol
> > But you ca...
shows they don't care as long as you suck up to daddy sony like they have
fading spade
ISTG Sony hardcore fanboys are the most copium induced people ever
fringe salmon
That’s just console fanboys in general
fading spade
Ive seen more shit takes from Sony Ponies than Xbox fanboys so far
fringe salmon
Did you miss the entitlement and then enrages when starfield got removed from PlayStation due to the Bethesda buyout only to be released on it after some time since they failed so hard?
Xbox fanboys acted the exact same way xD
fading spade
I didnt say that Xbox fanboys dont react like sony fanboys
they seem to do so far less
narrow junco
fringe salmon
I mean they did the literal same things when that happened
narrow junco
They were shitting themselves crying when microsoft decided to put some games on ps
fringe salmon
yeah
fading spade
LOL
deft bloom
more for you = less for me
fading spade
Meanwhile pc players stay winning
do we though? we always get the port with shitty performance and whatnot
and kernel level anticheats
hardy merlin
Nixxes does an amazing job with ports of PS games
deft bloom
glazing on anything is equally annoying, be it pcmasterrace shitheads, sony dickriders or xbox munchers
fading spade
yee
hardy merlin
And Xbox is just Windows PC in a trenchcoat, so...
fringe salmon
if anything I would say xbox fanboys are even higher on copium, ps fans can at least point to some thing sony is doing well, wtf is xbox doing? releasing another redfall and starfield?
fringe salmon
actually what were the l idk last 3 or 5 big games that xbox studios made that werent a total fail
fading spade
not sure tbh LOL
fringe salmon
halo was fine I think? forza and gears of war maybe
novel umbra
halo was a fail
fading spade
which one?
hardy merlin
Forza Motorsport is a shitshow
novel umbra
didn't count mcc
fading spade
so MCC is not a fail?
fringe salmon
yeah im just trying to look at the most recent ones not deacde old ones
novel umbra
so MCC is not a fail?
wasn't that high budget
fading spade
oh right, mcc is a bundle of older ones
did they make them work with controller and whatnot though or it just a copyof the old files?
novel umbra
was thinking of the high profile ones, that being 5 and infinite
and neither one performed well
small comet
actually what were the l idk last 3 or 5 big games that xbox studios made that w...
do we count AoE2: DE?
novel umbra
horizon 5 probably did really well
fringe salmon
oh found a timeline lets see https://www.reddit.com/r/XboxGamePass/comments/17lj3sc/xbox_firstparty_studios_roadmap_as_of_november/#lightbox
hardy merlin
Newer games... Um... Uh... Grounded is pretty cool...
fringe salmon
grounded, hi fi rush
small comet
flight sim
novel umbra
grounded, hi fi rush
neither of which were super high profile
but still performed well
flight sim did well considering it is niche
fringe salmon
I know but if we only look at high profile we can find even less xD
novel umbra
yea
fringe salmon
I'm trying to give xbox the best shot
hardy merlin
Hi-Fi Rush was Bethesda's, not Xbox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_Game_Studios_video_games
small comet
also forza motorsport released last year
novel umbra
Hi-Fi Rush was Bethesda's, not Xbox <a:d_nyaffienod:1107800153567535204> <https...
bethesda is xbox
hardy merlin
Bethesda/Zenimax is Microsoft Gaming, not Xbox
novel umbra
also forza motorsport released last year
don't think motorsport did that well
maybe it sold decently but people hated it
to the point where people recommended you to play GT7 instead
fading spade
o.o
fringe salmon
pretty sure phil is head of xbox and MS games studios no? so im counting that as the same thing
novel umbra
ow2 is still shitting the bed I think
doesn't really make a difference in the end
just corpo bs
would count it as the same
fringe salmon
im just trying to be extra generous and see what we could find to attribute to the xbox brand that the fans could cope about
novel umbra
ow2 is still shitting the bed I think
to the point where they are making all heroes f2p again
fringe salmon
I guess sea of thieves is going strong
novel umbra
somehow
small comet
Bethesda/Zenimax is Microsoft Gaming, not Xbox
isnt that just cause its still zenimax and microsoft gaming is just their new parent for having all the big studios under? as in microsoft gaming literally just has xbox game studios, zenimax and actiblizz directly under it?
novel umbra
I feel like that is one of those games that is only popular with people that don't play other games
just like dead by daylight
small comet
ye
novel umbra
ngl
kinda funny they put goldeneye on there
considering that both ports that we got were worse than the original in some aspects
and absolutely worse than the leaked 360 build
hardy merlin
I guess sea of thieves is going strong
Sea of Thieves is great, but get stale fast
Should they put more content and somewhat working PvP arenas it'd be really good
fringe salmon
so anyway, console fanboys are stupid, including nintendo fanboys, but at least I guess nintendo and sony have good games that can be argued for, I really struggle to see the reasoning for xbox fanboys lol
yeah I know, I made the mistake of playing it at launch lmfao
novel umbra
Sea of Thieves is great, but get stale fast
Should they put more content and som...
anything resembling permanent progression
fringe salmon
fucking blank game at that point
novel umbra
so anyway, console fanboys are stupid, including nintendo fanboys, but at least ...
tbh just as a plattform the xbox is prob the best of the 3 (imo)
but for exclusive titles it's not that great
fringe salmon
its fine in the sense of you can have it instead of a pc and not deal with pc issues
pulsar prism
I use to be a xbox guy back when halo was good 
fringe salmon
but like, if you have a pc it makes no sense
small comet
ngl i cancelled my gamepass cause i just stopped playing games from it
fringe salmon
and if you want to buy games and not gamepass I also struggle to see why one would get a xbox over a playstation
small comet
the last game i played was skywalker saga but steam sold it for 13bucks with all DLC so i got that and was done with it
novel umbra
yea on pc it makes less sense
pulsar prism
I also canceled my game pass seems like one of those things you subscribe to like once a year and when you're caught up on the games you just unsub again
novel umbra
you gotta consider that you need to subscribe to play online anyways
small comet
on an xbox yes
hardy merlin
I'm glad they put Forza Horizon on Steam
Somewhat annoyed they didn't bother with cross-saves, but oh well
small comet
ngl i have more xbox 360 games i wanna play than new xbox games
still need to replay dantes inferno, more viva pinata and shit
small comet
I'm glad they put Forza Horizon on Steam
Somewhat annoyed they didn't bother wit...
i had to use some community made tools to transfer my safe from xbox lego skywalker to steam
novel umbra
ngl i have more xbox 360 games i wanna play than new xbox games
oh yea, good backwards compatability
where even 360 games get improved versions
meanwhile bloodborne still runs like on a launch ps4
pulsar prism
Halo 3, those were some good times
small comet
i dont trust xbox and backwards comp
their "og xbox backwards comp" on 360 was enough of a blow for me
hardy merlin
i had to use some community made tools to transfer my safe from xbox lego skywal...
Doesn't work with Forza though
Turn10 patches every single exploit with it
While cheaters are running rampant
hardy merlin
It's nice to turn on once in a while to zone out
And I'm not really sad about my MS Store save, I got everything on Steam pretty easily again
Still, I think I prefer Test Drive Unlimited over FH
new TDU game will be good
small comet
i just want underground/underground2 but in a modern setting
let me tune up my car in a cool visual way
not just hd mod but also mdoern cars
novel umbra
just play the rtx remaster
novel umbra
<:giggle:765259312746070086> just play the rtx remaster
(it looks shit btw)
small comet
im more hopeful for the UG2 remake in unity or unreal or what it was
novel umbra
fading spade
Have the lights on the right stopped working or what?
pulsar prism
Need that midnight club 3 remaster 
hardy merlin
not just hd mod but also mdoern cars
Modern cars? It's not UG if you're not racing in a beater Dodge Neon
small comet
or mixing ug and carbon for those uber customizations
wanna change your tire with customization sliders? sure
novel umbra
fading spade
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/515720762749878273/1229554547459096656/...
Turrets when I play portal
proper basin
So floppy
deft bloom
cars cars cars
fading spade
Cars 3
proper basin
Gas gas gas
novel umbra
I can't wait for the inevitable borderlands 4 for it to be shit again
small comet
pls no
deft bloom
almost on-topic of the channel, but just bought this bad boy
small comet
human trafficking is illegal
deft bloom
nah the car just goes so fast the knees ripped off
hardy merlin
Yotota
fading spade
+:kek:
novel umbra
almost on-topic of the channel, but just bought this bad boy
is that a power lead for a battery tender hanging out the front
fading spade
Really
- Reacting doesn't work on phone???
deft bloom
is that a power lead for a battery tender hanging out the front
yeah it is, some ghetto shit
proper basin
almost on-topic of the channel, but just bought this bad boy
Im gonna eat it
small comet
is that a power lead for a battery tender hanging out the front
its for charging the blinkers
novel umbra
yeah it is, some ghetto shit
always a good sign
hardy merlin
Oh, it's a plug
Must be an EV
novel umbra
Oh, it's a plug
Must be an EV
it's a plug in hybrid
anyways, have fun replacing your alternator
fading spade
Imagine converting an old ass car to electric
deft bloom
huehue it's actually for a block heater, the car didn't have one originally so some mods had to be done
hardy merlin
Tesla with LPG installation
novel umbra
Tesla with LPG installation <a:d_nyaffienod:1107800153567535204>
why tf would you wanna go LPG
novel umbra
huehue it's actually for a block heater, the car didn't have one originally so s...
guh
why do you have a block heater
canada?
deft bloom
it's a necessity in the winter
hardy merlin
It's a meme in Poland
If it drives you can add LPG installation to it
deft bloom
finland
novel umbra
ah
fading spade
It's a meme in Poland
If it drives you can add LPG installation to it <:dogekek:...
What is that?
novel umbra
right
small comet
What is that?
lets play games
novel umbra
What is that?
conversion to car gas
fading spade
Oohh
hardy merlin
It's never done right 
small comet
maybe in poland
deft bloom
why do right if you can just do
novel umbra
It's never done right <a:nod:1167999126735167641>
have had multiple people in my family with converted cars and all were done right
hardy merlin
They weren't converted around here, that's why
novel umbra
you just gotta buy cars that had good kits done by people that know wtf they are doing
fading spade
lets play games
You just made me think of an idea
Putting a gaming PC into a car and playing games on the dashboard display ....
fading spade
:') oh ofc doom
hardy merlin
You can put GeForce Now onto Tesla's dashboard...
fading spade
O.o
novel umbra
You can put GeForce Now onto Tesla's dashboard... <:duck_sip:1103326776308019362...
you could actually play games natively on some teslas
deft bloom
and then post a pic of you on a random discord
are you calling me out now
fading spade
you could actually play games natively on some teslas
... Oh?!
small comet
are you calling me out now
just encouraging others to do as you did
fading spade
Are Tesla the only cars where the main interface isn't a laggy mess then?
novel umbra
Are Tesla the only cars where the main interface isn't a laggy mess then?
they might be lol
fading spade
Wow
deft bloom
ah
fading spade
Cause every video I see of other EVs
The touchscreen console seems so laggy
Or it has no animation to make the illusion of no lag
fading spade
But Teslas's ones are full of animations and they don't seem to lag
novel umbra
cconsidering how little computing power would be required
fringe salmon
Tesla also has much stronger hardware than you find in a car usually
novel umbra
fair point
fading spade
Even though the other EVs are much more expensive?
novel umbra
but something the level of a raspberry would be enough
fringe salmon
Teslas have zen+ apus usually car hardware is like 2 nodes behind that still
fading spade
I still don't like the concept that cars these days are just computers that you can drive
I just wanna have music playable from my phone
Answer calls
And show my Google maps on the center display
novel umbra
the embedded version of a galaxy s7
novel umbra
an ioniq 5 uses an atom x5 A3930💀
fading spade
2017
novel umbra
an ioniq 5 uses an atom x5 A3930💀
not like the car doesn't have other stupid decisions
heavy gull
only bearable os & screen ive come across in a car is tesla, for the rest id just use android auto or carplay tbh
novel umbra
for some reason they decided that it behaves like an automatic and just starts rolling if you push no pedals
unless you activate ipedal
but you have to activate ipedal each time you start the car
and if you go into reverse it also ignores the ipedal setting
and if you were relying on your car standing still because you were in ipedal it just starts rolling backwards immediatley
fading spade
only bearable os & screen ive come across in a car is tesla, for the rest id jus...
Yeah that's what I've seen too
I've seen so many Tesla in videos and on the road while driving but I've never gotten to sit in one
ashen lark
Now that Sony rolled back their decision I am curious to see how many people will actually change their review
pulsar prism
I've seen so many Tesla in videos and on the road while driving but I've never g...
i sat in one recently, actually embarrasses pretty much all the competition
fading spade
The UI yeah for sure
heavy gull
i took my driving lessons on model x and 3, they were great cars
fading spade
.....
pulsar prism
although to be fair I haven't really tried any other EVs
hardy merlin
Now that Sony rolled back their decision I am curious to see how many people wil...
They said they'll roll back their decision
But HD2 is still unavailable to buy for the half of the world...
fringe salmon
Don’t think we know if it was Sony or steam that blocked sales there
It it was valve they are asleep probably at this time
ashen lark
Nice to see that the voice of people was able to change this tbh
novel umbra
it was a psyop to make people less angry about eft
ashen lark
Well I’d think so too, but then it means that in future there will be an expectation uproars will work which may make them more likely to happen
hardy merlin
Oh, EFT
So currently €150 EoD edition is more P2W than €250 Unheard one and they're still trying to make it work
fading spade
🤔 sheep
clever elk
Gotta love people on r/playstation
> - Just create an account lol
> > But you ca...
They just used to being bent over by corporate lords, and then only cause an outrage when booba souls isn’t lewd enough
hardy merlin
Booba souls is one thing
They were outraged because of cleavage in FFVII
clever elk
So they moan because cleavage in one game but then moan because another doesn’t have enough
Seems fine to me
hardy merlin
More that in both there isn't enough...
clever elk
Ps5 so shit they need tits to try nake their purchase worthy enough
Avg console fanboy 
clever elk
Nice
light gust
nice.
proper basin
nice.
dreamy rain
Verily, I am upon my journey forthwith, making haste toward my destination with all due dilligence and resolve.
clever elk
hardy merlin
fringe salmon
Nice