EC and ME had exchanged nukes
#🎮│game
hot spire
That's what scared the US public into the fear of nuclear war
And jumpstarted the vault program, as well many other projects
orchid prism
US nukes itself
The rest of the world just somehow collapses completely, in spite of the US having several organisations seemingly thriving...in a nuclear wasteland
hot spire
The mini nuke war stated after a terrorist organization nuked te aivi, funded by the middle east
novel umbra
what
still spire
Actually all current Fallout lore supports the rest of the world is pretty much okay
And just the USA is fucked
hot spire
Which resulted in EC nuking then back
novel umbra
Actually all current Fallout lore supports the rest of the world is pretty much ...
china should also be fucked?
hot spire
Only to find out ME had ran out of oil anyway
hot spire
Actually all current Fallout lore supports the rest of the world is pretty much ...
Where?
Oil ran out
That's what sparked the rapid decline of the entire world
orchid prism
Actually all current Fallout lore supports the rest of the world is pretty much ...
And I once again argue that if this were the case, the US would have been invaded long ago by literally anyone outside of it.
orchid prism
Sticks and stones, wind power et cetera.
hot spire
China was on the verge of collapse which is why they invade Alaska for oul
But they can't sustain that front
hot spire
Sticks and stones, wind power et cetera.
Across the ocean?
vapid lintel
The US has a pretty large moat in the form of the Atlantic and Pacific oceans
orchid prism
Across the ocean?
The vikings crossed the sea, Ion.
vapid lintel
Dozens of them xD
hot spire
Totally enough to export oil
orchid prism
You don't need oil to take over what remains of the US
orchid prism
And you can scavenge a ton of tech and resources BOS style.
hot spire
You forget that things like veribrids and fusion cars are only in the US
orchid prism
There's this former superpower that nuked itself, which has a ton of tech we could totally use
No sorry, it's a long trip. Not worth the prospect of literally becoming a superpower in our non nuked homeland
hot spire
Hard to do when you can feed your people
orchid prism
Of course you can.
orchid prism
What population? The US is a nuked out wasteland.
Agriculture is not an atomic age concept.
hot spire
The nation that is sending troops to the us
You have to spend months sailing across the ocean
orchid prism
Weeks.
Those nations famously not living in a nuked out wasteland, meaning they can actually grow crops.
orchid prism
That is LITERALLY HOW CIVILIZATION BEGAN
hot spire
Yes
And how many farms would it take to sustain a city like London by hand farming?
Everything was being propped up the promise of the future that didn't come
So the rug got pulled out that was oil
And electric/nuclear didn't catch most of the world
orchid prism
Ion. Did humanity exist before oil?
novel umbra
thing is pre 76 most of the games showed to US as being pretty infertile
orchid prism
Yes be they didn't have the urban build up like we have
And yet that is literally how the entire civilized world worked pre-oil.
novel umbra
Yes be they didn't have the urban build up like we have
thing is how did that happen
basically only because agriculture required less and less manpower
hot spire
Population has always been tied to food supply
novel umbra
realistically humanity would not go back to being hunter gatherers unless all information got wiped out
orchid prism
Yes - and starvation can happen without ending civilization.
hot spire
Dropping that supply by orders of magnitudes is going to be bad
hot spire
Yes - and starvation can happen without ending civilization.
It will takes a lot long than a few hundred years to recover
orchid prism
If only they had... say... decades or even hundreds of years to recover.
Without the downsides of living in a hostile, nuclear wasteland.
hot spire
Without oil it would take a long long time
still spire
Well no one wanted to invade the USA because the radiation was so bad
hot spire
I mean the entire world wasn't hit
orchid prism
Well no one wanted to invade the USA because the radiation was so bad
You invade for the tech.
And you wouldn't invade - You'd do the same thing as the BOS have been doing. Setting up a basecamp and doing expeditions to collect artifacts and knowledge.
hot spire
And the bos can barely cover the us
Which is all connected by land
And they have access to power armor and veribrids
orchid prism
And the US was NUKED
hot spire
And Russia wasn't much better
orchid prism
Try harder.
hot spire
They also have no proof the US is destroyed and not some elaborate ploy
orchid prism
hot spire
Before the great war the us was in the same position it is in real life. The undisputed top of the military food chain
China would be the only nation that would try to intervene
But with the capture of Alaska they have no reason to push though Canada
Once they lose Alaska it was all over for them
fading spade
https://www.dexerto.com/tech/steam-deck-owner-rents-theater-to-play-games-on-massive-screen-2668109/
small comet
thats not even a good use of the screensize
grizzled bramble
Was the rumors of the SD2 for a release of 2025/26?
fringe salmon
nope no rumors for SD2 dates
only that based on what apus is out that time could fit but nothing else
grizzled bramble
Ok 👨🏫
languid plinth
getting this from a game dev is kinda hilarious
(tldr having issues w their game / controller support and saying wooting is the cause of the issue and they won't fix it cause its obscure)
orchid thicket
🤔
still spire
I mean it technically is obscure
If you got by volume of PC gamers using keyboards, wooting probably isn't even 0.1%
dreamy rain
If you got by volume of PC gamers using keyboards, wooting probably isn't even 0...
Its probably razer with %5
rotund solar
I suspect based on the sheer volume of prebuilts sold, the most common keyboard is whatever Dell or hp comes with.
I’m not sure what a 1st party keyboard would be otherwise.
Third party just has more brands.
still spire
pulsar prism
At this point blizzard just can't help but shovel out trash
pure bear
qol patch as season lmao
still spire
Stellar Blade is now the highest rated PS5 game of all time. (By User Score)
fallow bronze
Good to know that sex still sells
still spire
orchid prism
User score is literally pointless.
Can't trust your average user to understand the nuance between on a ten point system.
There's a good reason why Steam has it boiled down to a yes or a no.
still spire
So is critics score
orchid prism
Perhaps. But at least those are made with some amount of thought process and justifications.
still spire
Vtuber pre-order bonus lol https://www.gematsu.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/EDF6-Date_05-01-24_Pre-Order.jpg
still spire
orchid prism
Oof.
still spire
orchid prism
People pay for nexusmods?
small comet
some people who download gbs of mods do for the premium features
some people also just bought permanent premium ages ago when nexus was new
orchid prism
I downloaded 9GB just fine the other week for Bannerlord (holy mother of unoptimized modding)
orchid prism
some people also just bought permanent premium ages ago when nexus was new
I did that... And it vanished. So eff em 
orchid prism
Yup. Took a couple of hours to grab it all
small comet
yeah thats why people pay for premium usually
also on your case if you have the receipt id contact them
still spire
Yeah. I can get like 200MB/s, cause I panic bought the "Lifetime" sub thing for 60$ before they got rid of it. Can't really say if it was worth it, but FOMO and all that.
It's certainly nice not having to wait hours for mods
But I don't do muc hmodding these days
lol
small comet
when i bought lifetime i still modded tons and it was worth it
still spire
Yeah I remember downloading mods before bed so I could wake up to em downloaded, now it's a click and done. I dunno, not a total wate of money.
orchid prism
also on your case if you have the receipt id contact them
Meh... whatever. Most mods I download there are tiny, so they're done in a second or two.
still spire
And the biggest mods usually have a torrent as well
bleak pike
Meh... whatever. Most mods I download there are tiny, so they're done in a secon...
Same
burnt spear
I downloaded 9GB just fine the other week for Bannerlord (holy mother of unoptim...
I have premium because my modlists are almost a 1TB lol
novel umbra
mine didnt
same
quiet vault
Twitter
fallow bronze
40 is already a lot better than 30
bleak pike
Yup
small comet
uncapped only on vrr?
pulsar prism
Now if only they could bring out an update that makes the game good 
frosty dew
gonna try here:
are people able to point to me to ressources to create one's own map and possibly even missions as a modification for gta v? (or 4 also works, i guess)
grizzled bramble
gonna try here:
are people able to point to me to ressources to create one's ow...
pulsar prism
Something about cities not being shit?
have about 0 faith that bethesda would manage to turn the game around from the state it's currently in, maybe if they fired all their writing team and remade the entire game on an engine that doesn't require loading screens every 5 seconds
burnt spear
Starfield is fundamentally just not good. Its premise from the ground up needs changing for me to entertain it.
I say this as someone who has spent more time on Bethesda games than any other franchise or dev combined
drifting rose
barely anyone plays it lol
burnt spear
barely anyone plays it lol
I played it like 10 hours and uninstalled
The most disappointing launch of all time for me personally
trim rock
Where mod tools
pure bear
Where mod tools
couldnt even make the one thing that makes their games popular
burnt spear
Where mod tools
Mods can't fix it
grizzled bramble
Friends recommended No man's sky instead lol
trim rock
Probably but I want to see what some lunatics will do
burnt spear
Friends recommended No man's sky instead lol
If you wanna explore space, sure. if you want a role playing experience? hell nah lol
drifting rose
I played it like 10 hours and uninstalled
can't wait for grifters in 10 years presenting it as a misunderstood, underrated gem
burnt spear
"Why starfield was actually genius"
drifting rose
4 hour video
grizzled bramble
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1574260/My_Friendly_Neighborhood/ ''Sesame Street crossed with Resident Evil.'' lol
Hellblade is cheap and Hellblade II can be bought now
vapid lintel
Hellblade is cheap and Hellblade II can be bought now
Ooeh nice, excellent game, terrifying though
sudden prawn
someone finally say down and did the numbers, but 15-20K daily players is still decent for a life-support game
bleak pike
Ooeh nice, excellent game, terrifying though
Even better in VR
young hill
bleak pike
Think of how many 3d printers you could get with that.
still spire
Twitter
still spire
It should, should go to all paltforms
fading spade
https://www.pcgamer.com/games/priest-accused-by-cops-of-spending-over-dollar4000...
....at least it's on innocent shit , unlike most priests 
still spire
So far.
orchid prism
Candy Crush is a gateway drug for catgirls and uwu
dark veldt
Candy Crush is a gateway drug for catgirls and uwu
Fr I wanted to start playing the game soon
upbeat oracle
catgirl preist?
upbeat oracle
heavy gull
Riots new anti cheat
https://x.com/LSXYZ9/status/1785483391422570773
Twitter
trim rock
Nice
orchid prism
Context? Is Vanguard fucking with your BIOS now?
pulsar prism
"yeah, not having uefi and tpm 2 enabled normally doesn't let you install vanguard but hey, small indie company working on league... can't blame them"
heavy gull
In this guys case it totally bricked his computer after updating league. They introduced a new anti cheat
Or both of his computers I guess
orchid prism
Okay - But how exactly?
still spire
pulsar prism
from what I can see you need UEFI and TPM2 to boot after the update installs and forces you to restart your PC on W11
normally it wouldn't let you install it under those circumstances but looks like it got missed
orchid prism
So Vanguard force enables both? That is uhh.... very suspect.
And even if it doesn't, it still has no business preventing your OS from booting. It can refuse to launch the GAME, sure. But anything beyond that is a lawsuit waiting to happen.
heavy gull
Yea it’s conflicting with lots of things as well, like someone on Reddit said the game refused to launch because of fan control software lol
orchid prism
And that's fine - Refusing to boot your OS however is a different beast.
heavy gull
They will probably just excuse it of as unintended behavior bot this anti cheat is ridiculously invasive
heavy gull
And that's fine - Refusing to boot your OS however is a different beast.
Yea for sure
I’m sure they’ll fix that but very strange it even made it to relate in this state
fallow bronze
Riots new anti cheat
https://x.com/LSXYZ9/status/1785483391422570773
"bricked" untill you install a new os
thats not bricked
fringe salmon
Denuvo also had an issue that caused my bios to act up so I had to clear cmos
So this isn’t something only vanguard with ring0 access could cause and won’t spawn a lawsuit either
orchid prism
thats not bricked
I mean that is functionally bricked for your average PC user.
If you need to send it in for repair, that's "bricked"
fallow bronze
remind me not to play competitive games
fringe salmon
Eh it’s just riot games you should avoid
trim rock
I don't need any additional reasons to avoid them
still spire
Let's sacrifice Arcane season 2 for Vanguard to go away
orchid prism
still spire
Oh yeah
still spire
What's the twist? You need to drink blood or die?
orchid prism
Everything is harder.
And do you know how raid bosses in MMOs have a hard mode with more mechanics?
orchid prism
vapid lintel
The twist is a dance that was inspired by rock and roll music. From 1959 to the early sixties it became a worldwide dance craze, enjoying immense popularity while drawing controversies from critics who felt it was too provocative. It inspired dances such as the Jerk, the Pony, the Watusi, the Mashed Potato, the Monkey, and the Funky Chicken, but none were as popular.
still spire
Thanks MarkGPT
quiet vault
orchid prism
still spire
No Rest for the Wicked has some of the worst inventory management nonsense I've seen in a game in forever. In ARPG Soulslike, they've decided you use boss souls to upgrade stuff like "Extra Ring slot" or "Hold 5 more Apples"
Not even sure why this is a thing. There's nothing strategtic about it, it's just obnoxious. Take mining for example, I mined some coal earlier and got 5 coal. Now I mined some Iron, I can't pick up the iron because the coal is taking up my 5 resources slot.
I can beat a boss and upgrade it so I have 10 resource slots however
RNG that though that they drop their soul for me to upgrade inventory
still spire
bleak pike
Bruh
still spire
I think all the weapons are feeling a little too samey at this point
Just keep adding and it doesn't feel unique. New armor looks badass though.
nimble current
would prefer some system for more customization of weapons rather than having to pick a whole new weapon for a particular type of ammo or usecase
sure you get a fair bit of options on sights, firing modes etc while ingame but still
orchid prism
Politics!
Not that kind!
nimble current
those brainrot comments are on every steam post the devs make
devs quite clearly doesn't want to, so stop spamming about it
wheat kraken
Which is surprising since the devs ban anyone who even mentions that kind of shit
nimble current
they do on their discord at least
wheat kraken
Yea.
fringe salmon
mistake to add politics
Will never not be funny to see people outing their IQ is too low to understand the setting of HD2/starship troopers and that there are already hints of it in both helldiver games anyway lmao
nimble current
well am not saying these people understand this nor am I trying to defend their whining, but its pretty difficult to write lore for most games without some form of in-universe politics
the point I reckon would be keeping current real world societal issues and movements out of it
in the end I wish people regardless of opinions would let the creators do whatever the fuck they want to with their creation
fringe salmon
Yeah but 90% of people who complain about woke stuff can’t even define woke and the games already have inclusive things like same sex pairs
trim rock
Duality of man meme
nimble current
its funny how these basement incels goes on about how HD2 is anti-woke when its developed in what in their eyes would be one of the wokest cities and societies in the planet, stockholm sweden
fringe salmon
Also makes for great ways to trigger the shit out of people, when I still played dead by daylight I would always run the rainbow keychain because you can notice how people focus you more so I just would run perks to outrun the killer and so many times they lose the game to tunnel me or ragequit xD
trim rock
Makes sense only the most degenerate of degenerates play that game
drifting rose
remake OR remaster? how much you wanna bet it's more of a re-release
drifting rose
oh neat. I can finally ditch the prepare to die edition and enjoy cool moody lighting in a stable port
deft bloom
looks good
orchid prism
Tomorrow I'll share how to bypass the manual code for Civilization I
fading spade
Hmmm
deft bloom
the day after that: how to bypass the age verification of leisure suit larry
fringe salmon
after that I'll share what I had as breakfast because I think it's just about as relevant
unique bane
@fringe salmon https://www.twitch.tv/joppavash
fringe salmon
oh neat
unique bane
He's started streaming gamedev lately xD
fringe salmon
yeah its nice sometimes but I try to not follow work stuff when off work hours usually xD
but sometimes its nice if the game is interesting enough
unique bane
Haha I can see that, easily lose fun from gaming
Thankfully hes a designer not coder
fringe salmon
nah thats not an issue, I just like to keep work at work haha
unique bane
Ah, lots of other streamers at times too. NDA is lifted so can expect more just gameplay footage
Its seasons based now with no downtime
The Alpha
unique bane
Im waiting until Ranger & Summoner are done 😄
fringe salmon
finishing raid before dawntrail and then dawntrail this summer will keep me busy enough still haha
unique bane
FF is pog but maybe youll yearn for more HC game in a few years 😄
not saying FF raiding isnt HC
fringe salmon
I mean doing 60hours of this ult and we are at like 2/3rds is good enough for me for now xD
unique bane
tf lol
I could never do that after work 😦
good game launch neeeds a sabbath year from work!!
fringe salmon
its 2-3 hours tuesday and 3 hours sat/sunday
dreamy rain
its litteraly the same as any keyboard
grizzled quarry
algs player
Wonder how many of the kbm pros use wooting
grizzled quarry
Rip Timmy stuck on a higround keyb
willow quiver
its litteraly the same as any keyboard
What do you mean? This is top tier
still spire
feral drum
ok, i don't understand why Ubisoft doesn't get it, but an FPS Lock is a deal breaker for many these days
including me...
the graphical options for Crew Motorfest are also a fucking joke...
good thing i've only run the trial version
still spire
They get it, they just don't care.
nimble current
figures sony couldn't help but go and do a sony all over this game too
man japanese corporations really hates consumers
fringe salmon
.. do people not read? That was on the store page since day one was it not?
nimble current
are you suggesting people read terms and conditions?
even like tinier mentions of things
trim rock
Are you suggesting people read anything?
nimble current
if sonys service wasn't so dogshit and insecure I wouldn't be so hesitant
April 2011: Hackers Access Personal Data of 77 Million Sony PlayStation Network Users
May 2011: Personal Details on 25 Million Sony Online Entertainment Customers Stolen
June 2011: Sony Pictures Website Hacked, Exposing One Million Accounts
November 2014: Hackers Steal 100 Terabytes of Data from Sony Pictures
August 2017: Hacker Group Accesses Sony Social Media Accounts
September 2023: Sony Investigates Alleged Hack
October 2023: Sony Notifies Employees of Data Breach
söny pls
fringe salmon
Sure but like, you make an account with no useful info, link it, forget about it nothing happens
still spire
Helldivers 2 should require a Steam account on PSN then
nimble current
well sony ultimately owns the ip so they have the last say in all this
you bet ur ass they're going to exercise every inch of authority they can in this
still spire
Yeah, Sony is terrible for gaming, I know :p
nimble current
sony simps be like pc gamers so whiny and needy they should be thankful our gracious gods at sony even allowed them to play their game on pc at all
still spire
Pretty much how reddit is taking it
fringe salmon
Yeah it doesn’t make sense but if I was on PlayStation and would need a steam account I’d just call it dumb, make an empty account and move on
So I don’t quite get people strongly caring either way
nimble current
well data security aside there are places in the world where you literally can't register a psn account
which will essentially brick the game for a considerable group of people
still spire
Yeah, Helldivers 2 is now essentially unplayable in Russia
fringe salmon
Hey now I like this change
fringe salmon
So let me get this right
They want you to link psn which you can just sign up for free without using any real data right? So it’s a 2 minute process and then you can move on? Or am I missing something? And that’s what everyone is raging about?
trim rock
Yes people hate having to make accounts
still spire
Because it's Sony especially
Sony makes games exclusive often, like Stelalr Blade. Which was originally coming to PC, Xbox, AND PlayStation. But after PlayStation agreed to pay for marketing costs for the game, bam, PS exclusive(Timed obviously). Shit like that gets people upset. Meanwhile Microsoft is just bringing their games to everything.
pulsar prism
feel like it's always in the platform which isn't leading sales best interest to add things like that
fringe salmon
I mean aside from Sony publishing this game and funding it and whatnot, you don’t have to give Sony money or data so I still don’t understand this issue
fringe salmon
feel like it's always in the platform which isn't leading sales best interest to...
Also Sony is so far ahead of Xbox sales this isn’t the case certainly either
pulsar prism
Also Sony is so far ahead of Xbox sales this isn’t the case certainly either
I was talking about this part of his sentence "...Meanwhile Microsoft is just bringing their games to everything."
fringe salmon
Ohhh my bad misread your intent then
pulsar prism
i think the main issue people have with this is that they are adding it now, if it had been required at launch I don't think anybody would have cared
fringe salmon
Yeah if they had said in the beginning it’s needed to do crossplay nobody would have cared
still spire
Yeah I mean according to their own stats, Helldivers 2 is highest selling on PC
fringe salmon
Might make more money on PlayStation though
No 30% cut if your publisher is the store owner
pulsar prism
also apparently you can't make a sony account in the Phillipines, the Baltics or Russia
so anybody from those countries now won't be able to play the game at all
orchid prism
Also... Sony has a bad rep for having account info stolen 😄
fringe salmon
that goes back to it doesnt matter if you just put random jank in it and not your actual real name
trim rock
Good
narrow timber
orchid prism
Indeed. Shame it fails at the one thing players expected - being an outlaw.
RIP Kerbals
orchid prism
It also fails at not just being a shitty console port with garbage M/K interface
Kind of yeah? It has a first person mode, but you genuinely don't want to try the game like that.
It is an amazing game, but it really fails on providing some of the experiences you'd expect given the story.
Can't rob a bank, can't rob a train (without a REALLY specific, really immersionbreaking approach) or a ton of other things that the story otherwise would imply.
Though this is not an RDR2 only failing - GTA V had the exact same issue with the lack of heists. They were only available as part of the campaign, not something you could ever plan organically.
And the MMO version is a terrible, parasitic "you must play every day to have a minimum of progress, otherwise you start over" progressions system, with jobs that no one wants to do, because the winning move is to wait for others to try them - and then rob their shit seconds before they deliver stuff.
orchid prism
vapid lintel
1983 movie, War Games. Highly recommended
grizzled bramble
https://clan.cloudflare.steamstatic.com/images//44237048/e2bb0ad1ffc434724fa7cc37945b389026c3a1ac.jpg Hellblade II specs
vapid lintel
Nice I meet most of the recommended specs
heavy gull
Likewise that’s nice
pure bear
https://clan.cloudflare.steamstatic.com/images//44237048/e2bb0ad1ffc434724fa7cc3...
my pc finally feels outdated 
digital dawn
Yeah it doesn’t make sense but if I was on PlayStation and would need a steam ac...
tmk you are required to add an address when making a PSN account
fringe salmon
so select a fake one
digital dawn
true
it still is a pretty big issue with people that physically cant make a PSN account
and regardless its a stupid change months after the game has been released
fringe salmon
I mean sure but it was just something that they at the start disabled because of issues so this isn't something they suddenly decided to add...
idk I get its annoying but man people get way too upset at it imo
digital dawn
yes but there was no warning that it would be required down the line
fringe salmon
I mean they kinda did say at the start that it's temporarily not needed
so I always expected it to come
but no I dont have a link to the original statement or sentence that I'm thinking of because I didn't think it a big deal worthy enough to keep safed lmao
digital dawn
I do think people review bombing HD2 are going too far tho
fringe salmon
"oh server issues at launch so they try anything to make it play better, cool, anyway back to playing" was my thought process about it back then ¯_(ツ)_/¯
digital dawn
I do think people review bombing HD2 are going too far tho
you're just hurting the devs imo
fringe salmon
I guess the coomer brains also are still mad for the "insane censorship" in stellar blade so I guess they just see sony and think evil
I fucking hate gamers sometimes (often)
digital dawn
im just gonna set my PSN account address to sony HQ NY and call it a day
fringe salmon
like this is what I see get posted in other discord and if you had no clue you would think they made every weapon cost money or something that actualy affects the game
fringe salmon
replace it with sony and its still just as wrong
like yes I think its a bad idea and would voice my feedback but people wanting refunds and raging around for it just makes me facepalm again
digital dawn
yeah I agree
its a stupid idea but its not like the game is ruined and unplayable
well- for most
hopefully they actually do what they said they were going to do with PSN accounts being required and start banning griefers
fringe salmon
yeah I'll just continue to play with friends who have it on playstation anyway so changes jack shit for them
that and I hope it makes them add cross progression for playstation peopel wanting to play on pc or vice versa
bc for that it makes perfect sense to have the requirement
trim rock
Warframe did what wrong?
digital dawn
Warframe did what wrong?
they took years to add cross progression even though they kept promising that it was coming soon
trim rock
Soon is relative
fringe salmon
also found it on someones video how the listing was there since forever so its not a new but ¯_(ツ)_/¯
feral drum
i don't get why everyone's going crazy about it...
as if 3rd part accounts are anything new
fringe salmon
gamers™
bleak pike
https://clan.cloudflare.steamstatic.com/images//44237048/e2bb0ad1ffc434724fa7cc3...
At least this is without dlss
bleak pike
https://store.steampowered.com/news/?emclan=103582791473678397&emgid=41968685298...
But I don't want to make a psn account
feral drum
i'm not surprised about the Hellblade 2 specs actually
given that a shit ton of people upgraded their rigs in the last few years
bleak pike
I mean tbh
It looks incredible
Just no idea how they will get it working on the Xbox
feral drum
i doubt it's going to be like the next big GPU killer game
feral drum
Just no idea how they will get it working on the Xbox
uh... you realize the PS5 and xBox actually use almost the same hardware?
their GPU in fact is the exact same
bleak pike
Ok?
That doesn't really effect my statement.
I'm just saying it looks incredible so idk how they are going to get it running on the Xbox
Maybe 30fps?
barren pewter
fringe salmon
cmond <@&490097707487330305>
barren pewter
brb gonna redeem that 50 schmekles
bleak pike
Done
barren pewter
...asshat
Pleasant
you're officially uninvited from my birthday party
forever
fringe salmon
annyway how are you wondering how the xbox can run it when pc min specs are below the xbox specs?
bleak pike
I mean I guess but what we see in the trailers is like super good
I think it's stupid what Helldivers are doing tbh
Why's not just disable cross play for people who don't want to make a psn
barren pewter
cope seethe and mald
bleak pike
What
fringe salmon
its not about crossplay that works without psn..
feral drum
it's a Sony IP after all and Sony wants to milk your personal data for some sweet, sweet cash, that's all there is behind it
vapid lintel
So who here is going to watch Trackmania's Deep Dip 2? 🏎️
maiden tulip
But I don't want to make a psn account
It was clearly listed as required from launch
reading is easy
Also it was required for the first few weeks
Then shit broke
Nico had to make a psn
On launch day
It was not skippable
This is as dumb as buying an EA game then being like i dont wanna make an origin account
fringe salmon
you expect people to read
maiden tulip
Then just... dont but the ea game with the big yellow banner
Saying
Third party account required
And drm nprotect
maiden tulip
you expect people to read
Pretty basic when spending money on a product
fringe salmon
we are talking about the average gamer™
maiden tulip
But hey people buy 300$ wootings and ask questions after buying it
pure bear
But hey people buy 300$ wootings and ask questions after buying it
step1: buy 60% keyboard step2: wonder where the missing keys are
feral drum
step1: buy 60% keyboard step2: wonder where the missing keys are
step 3: request refund, because you found icons on the PCB
pure bear
i understood that reference
digital dawn
step 3: request refund, because you found icons on the PCB
wait did this actually happen
feral drum
yep, check the 80HE channel
digital dawn
yep, check the 80HE channel
LMAO
you uh- wont even see them when the board is assembled
fringe salmon
bruh thats enough internet for the day for me
feral drum
you uh- wont even see them when the board is assembled
that's literally what i told him
orchid prism
Just casually optimizing my Rimworld mods. It's been going for an hour now.
I regret everything
proper basin
Peaking
pure bear
Just casually optimizing my Rimworld mods. It's been going for an hour now.
cozy space heater
proper basin
Not enough
orchid prism
cozy space heater
Gotta get that 1080mm worth of radiator space a workout now and then.
orchid prism
How many mods is that 😂
It's currently re-encoding all of my 140 mods texturefiles to optimize them. At 35% now
forest thicket
jesus, rimworld always looked fun just never checked it out. I see why you would want texture files for that game for sure haha
small comet
i mean technically.... gaming is also working
proper basin
Definitely feels like it
fringe salmon
uhhh
how is this a talk again
that has been known for years
and I don't even play any of their games
bleak pike
you expect people to read
I understand that.
And i did.
Im just saying i wish it stayed the way it was.
fringe salmon
thats fair and was mostly towards people who said it was a "bait and switch" or similar
orchid prism
https://www.unknowncheats.me/forum/anti-cheat-bypass/634974-vanguard-taking-scre...
This was mentioned yesterday as well during the "Vanguard bricked my OS" talk.
drifting rose
literal malware
fringe salmon
that same forum had people talk about this 2 years ago lmfao
orchid prism
Freedom!
proper basin
grizzled bramble
Hellblade II soon 🧑💻
burnt spear
Definitely feels like it
live service games be like
proper basin
nimble current
It also fails at not just being a shitty console port with garbage M/K interface
wasn't that bad imo, certainly not worse than any prior rockstar title
still spire
Twitter
From 83% to 48% in a day
Oh shit it's blowing up hard lol and Arrowhead is not handling it well
Also they updated the page
Changed to this: https://i.redd.it/tpht9tvh5ayc1.jpg
proper basin
I at least got a laugh out of this from the situation
still spire
A normal user saying that is fine enough, but when you represent a company you can't be that passive aggressive.
Making a PSN account is a big deal in the UK https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1cjc5kw/just_use_a_throwaway_email/
You need to provide photo ID
lol
burnt spear
https://preview.redd.it/2jxkwdyfhbyc1.jpeg?auto=webp&s=5186083326ae0fcb63c5ea9dd...
this basically comes out tomorrow
and it's the first ive heard of it. hope its good.
But kevin hart?!!?
still spire
Try and find Jack Black
burnt spear
clap trap I hope?
burnt spear
based
burnt spear
Also Tiny Tina is like 30 lmao
lmao
kind of odd because it would also be weird if they got a child to do it
still spire
Eh, never seen Kick_ass?
burnt spear
maybe like someone that can be convincgly a young adult but also a teenager at the same time
still spire
Just do that
burnt spear
Eh, never seen Kick_ass?
true, but that was more of an exception.
still spire
pure bear
heh
still spire
I expected like, a 3% drop
Maybe 10% tops, if being very optimistic
But it's actually heading to overwhelmingly negative
fallow bronze
Gamers are such entitled princesses
still spire
Eh? It's a legitimate thing to be upset about. Nerf after nerf and unpopular updates, and then this.
Kinda like the final straw that broke the camels back
fallow bronze
Eh? It's a legitimate thing to be upset about. Nerf after nerf and unpopular upd...
K, I haven't kept up with the controversies.. Sounds annoying
still spire
Twitter
still spire
bleak pike
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/410208622778384385/1236215642026278922/ne...
Jokes aside but that's actually fucked up if you think about it.
still spire
It is
fringe salmon
Is it though? Can you make an origin, epic games, uplay etc. account in every region?
bleak pike
It's fucked yes because you're locking someone out of a game they bought.
still spire
Is it though? Can you make an origin, epic games, uplay etc. account in every re...
Previously it was not a requirement for 3 months, so it didn't matter. So say they bought it in those regions, which Steams support, it no longer does
Their produced was rendered nonfunctional after the fact. It's not like they bought it knowing this.
orchid peak
Twitter
this one
is the funny change
🗿
optional to may require
It‘s just bad behavior from devs
you can do it right and do it wrong
Devs be allowing them selfs too much
bleak pike
The CEO said "as you can see it's an old version of the site* lol
unique bane
Pantheon MMO free playtest this weekend if you sign up with CohhCarnage promo key
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vital wyvern
😒
nimble current
It‘s just bad behavior from devs
its sony, not the devs
bleak pike
nimble current
it is though
bleak pike
TBF the CEO of arrowhead was not fond of UK peeps having to make accounts and verity their identity.
When they found out.
nimble current
they hold the IP to helldivers, its their call
nimble current
I mean arrowhead had to play ball with it sure, but if you're at the mercy of your publisher you have little to no choice
orchid prism
https://youtube.com/shorts/ODo4Qwd6pgw
For those who don't know wtf is going on
nimble current
imagine they just demanded it from day one instead of selling a billion copies in countries without psn first
orchid prism
Sony specifically changed their rules because of this ALL OF A SUDDEN
PSN account optional suddenly turned into MAY require
proper basin
Delicious data
nimble current
and I don't think they'll get away with that in a lot of regions
fringe salmon
it was a day 1 requirement that they lifted in the first week to help with server issues
orchid prism
Unfortunately all that'll happen is a lot of refunds
fringe salmon
this isnt something new
nimble current
afaik you can't sell someone a product with one agreement and then change it down the road after people paid
fringe salmon
imagine they just demanded it from day one instead of selling a billion copies i...
aka they did that
nimble current
aka they did that
it said it was optional in the agreement tho
which they now have changed
fringe salmon
it was listed on the store page as mandatory since day one
bleak pike
I swear it said it was required for cross play when you launched the game
fringe salmon
and it was not optional and you could not skip it on the first days
orchid prism
I'm just glad I can tune it all out. Fuck em all 😄
orchid prism
it was listed on the store page as mandatory since day one
If it was listed properly, then we wouldn't be here with such a huge backlash
nimble current
I'm just glad I can tune it all out. Fuck em all 😄
and all it cost you was not playing the game of the year 
fringe salmon
If it was listed properly, then we wouldn't be here with such a huge backlash
it was and people didnt read
nimble current
If it was listed properly, then we wouldn't be here with such a huge backlash
right, sony were about as clumsy with this as you could possibly get
orchid prism
it was and people didnt read
If that many people don't read, the people aren't the issue. And that is what consumer rights orgs are for 😛
fringe salmon
here a screen from february for example
orchid prism
and all it cost you was not playing the game of the year <:mm:638142954841833512...
They made a third person shooter. They never had a chance with me to be fair.
fringe salmon
now we can agree on it wasnt communicated well enough etc.
or that it isnt needed and now should not be enforced
bleak pike
People don't read that unless it lists denuvo
fringe salmon
but it doesnt change the facts how it was listed from the start
orchid prism
here a screen from february for example
Claims to require things, doesn't require thing, suddenly requires thing months later - when people can't normally refund any longer
I think you'll find anyone demanding a refund given that will get it 😛
fringe salmon
I am not arguing that point
I am saying it needs it, day one or week one you needed it and it was then lifted to help with server issues or general issues at launch
bleak pike
Tbh I didn't see that originally and when I launched the game it just said a sony account was needed for cross play
I just ignored it
orchid prism
You have to scroll down the steam page to even see the warning, you are not given a warning when buying.
Valve won't stand a chance as far as "but we told y'all" if push comes to shove.
nimble current
if its required then why have a skip button
pure bear
required but having a skip button might not fly
nimble current
sending kinda mixed messages
fringe salmon
yes that button was added later while it was disabled
orchid prism
Skip button.
Also "wasn't there for quite a while"
bleak pike
skip
fringe salmon
you needed it on day one
orchid prism
you needed it on day one
Right - Because no one bought it at a later date
fringe salmon
jesus christ people read what I am saying, I'm not defending sony for just readding it, I'm just saying it its not something unexpected or something they said otherwise at first
orchid prism
jesus christ people read what I am saying, I'm not defending sony for just readd...
Except we keep pointing out that it WAS unexpected. Jesus christ quin 😄
fringe salmon
I am not saying to blame people who skipped and assumed you dont need it
no it only was when you didnt pay attention
fringe salmon
I agree that is not well communicated and thus not good enough
orchid prism
People will get their refunds. And that's that
fringe salmon
again, I am not arguing against that, you are missing my point
nimble current
saying its required then letting it slip makes people unsure what to believe, am sure some assumed it was just some text that was there by accident because sony
since they could still ignore it and play
fringe salmon
yes and that is totally fine to assume
fringe salmon
Sony specifically changed their rules because of this ALL OF A SUDDEN
I'm saying this statement isnt true because it wasnt a sudden decision to add this
orchid prism
No. You're trying to argue that people ignored warnings - And we are telling you that the warnings were either not clear enough, or possible to outright skip.
Both of which are strong pro-consumer protections against naugthy companies. "Reading comprehenstion" this is not.
nimble current
they did change the "login to psn account optional" to "mandatory" in the written ToS
fringe salmon
but I am not saying they were clear enough
nimble current
and they did that change yesterday
fringe salmon
I said I agree it was not clear enough
but that if you were to look at it closely it was always there since day one, thats all im saying, not that it makes it clear enough to customers
just because I think one argument is flawed doesnt mean I support the other side xD
bleak pike
Obviously you just love them
orchid peak
its sony, not the devs
devs not making it better by having their CMs making fun of people
nimble current
tbh after looking into the helldivers discord yesterday I don't blame them for losing it
shitstorm doesn't begin to describe it
bleak pike
devs not making it better by having their CMs making fun of people
They pulled a Mansen
nimble current
also these things are always a matter of perspective
nimble current
you got like 5 billion people hurling abusive shit in a chat and then some CM snaps back and everyone be like "OH NO HE DIDNT"
bleak pike
Yes but at the same time.....
You need to learn to back off.
I've had my fair share of moments here, some really bad moments but at the end of the day I represent a company and that holds weight.
You need to learn to control yourself and when not to waste energy on people.
nimble current
I do think they can handle things better in places, but these are people like everyone else
and its a bit unfair that its arrowheads team that has to pick up the pieces from a mess sony created
orchid peak
well sadly enough devs and publishers are just allowing themself too much, Tarkov and other games in the last 2 years too
this kind of extreme backlash is the only thing that seems to produce change
nimble current
least I hope so, would hate to see the game die or significantly lose players over some greedy japanese boomers that should be in the grave long ago anyways
bleak pike
Looks at Bungie who recently made top tier content because they were backed into a corner due to lots of backlash and people not pre ordering
Funny how companies put work into things when they have no choice.
nimble current
I know how hard arrowhead has worked for this break, they've gotten fucked over by bad publishers in the past and now its happening again
fringe salmon
idk man, I think this is just unlucky, imagine if they had EA as a publisher and it would need an origin account to launch
what are the chances EA would have allowed them to pause linking while servers were not working in the start
orchid peak
idk man, I think this is just unlucky, imagine if they had EA as a publisher and...
well i think the issue is that you didnt need a account before and now you are cutting out like 90 countries from accessing the game they bought and can‘t refund anymore
fringe salmon
you needed an acocunt in the first day(s)
bleak pike
My issue personally is being forced into making a PSN account which is a completely different system platform.
feral drum
EA is worse in many ways actually... Instead of just requiring an EA account, no, you also need THEIR fucking launcher
bleak pike
Well ye I agree
pure bear
fuck publsihers
feral drum
just to play a single player game like Last Jedi
fringe salmon
My issue personally is being forced into making a PSN account which is a complet...
psn isnt just for PlayStation, you also can do ps+ on pc
bleak pike
psn isnt just for PlayStation, you also can do ps+ on pc
Still
I used my friend's PSN for that 
orchid peak
Like I said for all I care we can piss on all of the publishers legs and devs. Because there has been so much anti consumer things happening it‘s insane
still spire
EA is worse in many ways actually... Instead of just requiring an EA account, no...
Well, Sony is launching a Launcher
fringe salmon
sure but I think its a waste to have such backlash over something like this
still spire
And it's gonna become mandatory no doubt
orchid peak
sure but I think its a waste to have such backlash over something like this
it‘s not a waste tho it prevents it from happening again
or at last makes them thing twice
still spire
Ghosts of Tsuhima will launch with Sonys new Launcher which has stuff like PSN Achievements tied to it
fringe salmon
yeah so we dont get psn link but more p2w warbonds (hypothetical), great
still spire
orchid peak
yeah so we dont get psn link but more p2w warbonds (hypothetical), great
just because something gets backlash it doesnt mean other things get neglected
we need more harsh blacklash for all this shit devs/publishers been doing
fringe salmon
sure but I also dont see this amount of angry gamers for something I think matters more
orchid peak
i think it has been a lot more in recent times
but yea it still could be more
single player games having a online requirement needs to be nuked
all this stuff is anti consumer
fringe salmon
especially since most people only later discovered psn is limited in some countries so thats not the reason they got mad, then people jumped to conclusions how it was a bait and switch when it was bad communication and (badly) said since day one its mandatory
fringe salmon
if it would have started with people saying no because it limits who can play the game, that's totally valid and I think more people would have gotten behind it even
orchid peak
well sony changed their policy on if it‘s required just recently
still spire
It will start off not, but then become so. Probably be like Rockstar Launcher
fringe salmon
well sony changed their policy on if it‘s required just recently
it was required on launch day, server issues came, they said they will temporarily remove the requirement, now it's back
still spire
No, it said i was optional on launch day
fringe salmon
is there a image/video of that? because I can only find it being called mandatory
fringe salmon
inlcuding this from last nights discussion
orchid peak
is there a image/video of that? because I can only find it being called mandator...
Twitter
fringe salmon
I dont care about what a sony page says I care what the helldivers site said
bleak pike
Poor quin is about to give up on life
fringe salmon
again, it was mandatory on launch
orchid prism
stokes fire with second paragraph
proper basin
EA is worse in many ways actually... Instead of just requiring an EA account, no...
I’ll always hate their stupid launcher
fringe salmon
there is no point arguing what sony makes mandatory for all PSN games and if that changed or not when it was originally mandatory in the game
if it says sony isnt making it mandatory and I make my own game and force people to use PSN that would also not allign with sonys page then but would still be how it is
orchid peak
idk why you are trying to defend a publisher stealing 1000s of peoples money
orchid prism
Refunds, refunds, refunds
fringe salmon
I'm not defending them I'm saying by all means try and get a refund but the point people arguing is false 
bleak pike
I would if I could
fringe salmon
I can say an argument is stupid without having to support the site that profits from that
bleak pike
orchid peak
well no they bought a game that was working and then they enforce something that removes the ability to play the game and you can‘t get a refund
nimble current
I mean I'd make a damn account and all its not that, but how do I know my credit card info won't be in hackers hands a few months later given sonys infamous cyber security incompetence
small comet
eu courts will have fun with this one
fringe salmon
I'm not arguing against that fact either or if this is the right way to do it or not, or that it was communicated well enough
orchid prism
Here's the neat thing. Even if I had bought the game, fully knowing that it did state it required a PSN account, when it wasn't enforced - I'd still be in my full right to complain over this. For myself and anyone who lives in a location who can now not play a game they used to be able to.
Just because the Devs want better banning tools.
fringe salmon
yeah and I fully agree with/support that point
bleak pike
I don't want to give the Sony and the company they hired for verification my face.
nimble current
helldivers does have an issue with malicious kicking and other types of griefing so I can see how they'd want to adress that, but this is a poor excuse for it
still spire
The thing is about the PSN requirement doesn't do anything in regards to cheaters / banning tools
It's just old fashioned data harvesting
orchid prism
The thing is about the PSN requirement doesn't do anything in regards to cheater...
They actually admitted as much. It gives them access to better ban tools.
fringe salmon
I just think that a) some points people argue are just false b) some people who have 500 hours and want to refund when they are in a place where making PSN doesnt require any ID or similar are wayyy too mad about having to spend 2 minutes on making an account
orchid peak
Even if everyone had access it‘s still anti consumer. Just let me play the game with just my steam account. Ik other games do it to but maybe this will the example that other publishers need to know okay maybe better of not having people make 27 accounts using 6 launchers
orchid prism
Sony can have my data, when they can prove they give the tiniest shits about protecting it.
Their servers are leakier than a sieve.
fringe salmon
that argument doesnt hold if you dont need to give sony any data
nimble current
I just think that a) some points people argue are just false b) some people who...
not even that mad about the make an account part, its more the horrible security of sony or the fact that a lot of regions get locked out from it that gets me down
orchid prism
that argument doesnt hold if you dont need to give sony any data
I need to create an account. That's information.
nimble current
or just how they handled this whole shitshow
still spire
orchid prism
Sneakily (and failing) to change a terms page to cover your ass, is always a great way to show you care about customers.
orchid peak
Like I said even if people can create account there is no reason to support this. There is 0 benefit for the consumer
It‘s all for the benefit of sony
nimble current
Sneakily (and failing) to change a terms page to cover your ass, is always a gre...
am actually amazed someone at sony was stupid and careless enough to think people wouldn't notice that in all this drama
fringe salmon
not even that mad about the make an account part, its more the horrible security...
the people in not affected countries that got mad are not mad because other regions got locked out, 90% of them didn't know about that and also couldnt know how they respond when the first mad comemnts came out
orchid prism
They're angry about the wrong thing, and that's somehow worse than what is happening
Moving on.
orchid prism
am actually amazed someone at sony was stupid and careless enough to think peopl...
Especially after that exact page was linked to by the helldiver Devs.
orchid peak
Like I said even if people can create account there is no reason to support this...
^ To go further what happens if sony services are down? can I now not play the game anymore?
bleak pike
I mean
bleak pike
No?
nimble current
^ To go further what happens if sony services are down? can I now not play the g...
now that you mention it that kinda worries me too, sony is known for shutting down old games
will they do the same here when they decide its not worth the expense
orchid peak
No?
I mean idk how they are linked and if it cross checks the link on game boot.
it‘s a question
still spire
Either way, I agree it is not a big deal, but that it SHOULD be optional.
Just disable crossplay if you don't link accounts, simplest shit
fringe salmon
you can link it and make it so it only needs to contact the psn server so and so often so a downtime wouldnt affect it for example
linking it doesnt directly tie it to needing the service be online 24/7
and if it does allow them more moderating tools to ban people for griefing as someone said (idk what exactly) that is at least more than 0 upsides
orchid peak
you can link it and make it so it only needs to contact the psn server so and so...
Well idk what sony intends on doing🗿 Ik they could do that. Will they do that? 🤔
fringe salmon
*They're angry about the wrong thing, and that's somehow worse than what is happ...
and yes I think it can very much hurt your argument, favorite example is people got mad at epic games for it allegedly indexing your entire pc when the person finding that had no clue it was something else, instead of complainging about something egs was/is doing worse ¯_(ツ)_/¯
or in this case if people would have from the start argued this removes peoples option to play the game in multiple countries, it would have been a much better argument than just saying they dont want to spend 2 minutes making an account
fringe salmon
Well idk what sony intends on doing🗿 Ik they could do that. Will they do that? ...
idk cant really guess that
orchid peak
just review bomb the game in to the gutter so sony changes it
orchid prism
PROPAGANDA INTENSIFIES
bleak pike
Be nice if they released the second one day
orchid prism
Hell no. Trash that pos
bleak pike
What why
orchid prism
That trailer had nothing to do with BGE at all. It was like if some British hip-hop artist got ahold of it, and hadn't read the script at all.
feral drum
*PROPAGANDA INTENSIFIES*
uh... a bit early, isn't it?
orchid prism
It's not out yet
feral drum
i don't see a reason to buy the anniversary crap anyway when there are tons of mods for it
proper basin
Rayman 4
opaque forge
hi, sorry if im asking in the wrong place but does anyone have any good settings for overwatch 2?
feral drum
"you played 4 games of the series"... my ass, i played all of them
even have rogue and AC1 on steam
the only ones i don't have are Valhalla and Odyssey, because fuck them
mirage was a great game tho, really well done, but a tiny bit too short
and the desert was meh... but Baghdad? god damn, was it fun to play there
ubisoft can do some decent and nice games, if they want to
still spire
Yeah they did a decent job with Ghosts of Tsushima
feral drum
i'm actually scared of Outlaws...
still spire
The police will protect you I'm sure.
feral drum
i mean they didn't show us any gameplay and the trailer's only cutscenes from the game itself
but if Lucas really has its hands in that IP, like the rumors say, it could be a decent game
still, i'll wait for the reviews before pulling the trigger
fallow bronze
As you should always
still spire
Dude, I would be flabberghasted if they removed the requirement
calm quartz
hi, sorry if im asking in the wrong place but does anyone have any good settings...
5043d661533b67bc438b35f061525784bab3
It's analog. Have fun
still spire
Yeah, when you represent a company you can't act like you would privately
orchid prism
5043d661533b67bc438b35f061525784bab3
It's analog. Have fun
The profile itself isn't enough. You have to explain to someone that they need to rebind movement to left analog stick, and force PC UI icons.
still spire
orchid maple
nooooo apex legends is frame dropping againnnnnn
after 4 months, its back again
time to reinstall windows i guess
what
wait, nvm lets see if new driver will do it
but i dont think so
dreamy rain
orchid maple
nah its still happening
ffs time to reinstall windows
idk how the fuck apex runs better on linux
dreamy rain
What are you using, spec wise
orchid maple
11900k 7800xt
dreamy rain
Then you dont need to reinstall windows
It’s probably the game or a driver that needs updating
orchid maple
the game doesnt need update
and i just updated the gpu driver
windows doesnt need a update either
this happens every few months to me somehow
this is the longest ive played untill random frame drops happens again
also, it only happens in Apex, i was playing OW earlier, nothing happens
dreamy rain
Are you running frames uncapped
dreamy rain
Its the game then, try running it on a different launcher
dreamy rain
Does epic have apex ?
orchid maple
no
feral drum
i'm pretty sure i ran my Apex just an hour ago at 300 FPS the entire time
fading spade
WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT HOLY SHIT
KEITH DAVID WAS THE VOICE ACTOR FOR SERGEANT FOLEY IN COD??????!!!!
orchid prism
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tall anchor
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orchid prism
bleak pike
WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT HOLY SHIT
KEITH DAVID WAS THE VOICE ACTOR FOR SERGEANT FOLE...
May I suggest you next time say
"Holy shit I just found out Keith David was the voice actor for xyz"
fading spade
Yeh xd
jolly forum
who plays? 👀
fringe salmon
linking the game instead of doing self promotion (against the rules) would help people knowing the game
deft bloom
I paypal'd Arden so you're safe to post again
tall anchor
jolly forum
linking the game instead of doing self promotion (against the rules) would help ...
it only exists on private servers sorry ser
still spire
Oh my god
Lmao
They delisted Helldivers 2
People who previously purchased the game in these countries can NO LONGER PLAY A GAME THEY PAID FOR
And it's only months ol
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Twitter
fringe salmon
well yeah if psn isnt supported there thats the expected outcome?
also can grummz just fuck off
like no shit people go private their private accounts to not get doxxed and harassed for something they have no influence over because of people like him who enocurage these attacks
bleak pike
What a piece of shit
still spire
Grummz is a piece of shit for sure
still spire
well yeah if psn isnt supported there thats the expected outcome?
So they bought a game 3 months ago and can no longer play it?
That's not the expected outcome
fringe salmon
I'm saying if PSN doesnt work in their region, this doesnt change anything for them anyway?
and its PurchaseRestrictedCountries so if you have it before you should still be in your library I'd guess
like keeping a game up to buy and then you cant play it seems like it would be worse
still spire
They weren't restricted til now
They were able to buy and paly it for months, and the restrictions are new.
fringe salmon
well yes but we had the talk that psn isn't supported in countries so I'm just trying to understand what this changes when we know psn link is now needed/going to be needed
I'm not like arguing against or for anything it just seems like it's the exact same thing for people in these places aside from they cant buy it and then start to see they cant play it?
young crow
People who previously purchased the game in these countries can NO LONGER PLAY A...
that’s fine, steam refunds that game regardless of play time
still spire
It's not really fine... But ok
still spire
My dude you are in a Discord about a Keyboard. 😛
proper basin
I can let my keyboard touch the grass outside for me
pulsar prism
it's a refund to your steam wallet?
rancid hearth
sadly
still spire
Wow apparently if you're in a country that got delisted you also can't get a refund
dreamy rain
Wow apparently if you're in a country that got delisted you also can't get a ref...
Thats beyond a scam robbery
young hill
People had this game for quite a while, honestly I do not see the issue in making a burner PlayStation account just for this game
still spire
Because they can't.
rancid hearth
People had this game for quite a while, honestly I do not see the issue in makin...
literally against sony tos
still spire
Burner account or no, people just lost the game they paid for and aren't getting anything.
dreamy rain
If you wanna spend money on the game it causes issues in the future
young hill
Because they can't.
In those countries?
still spire
So say you live in the Phillipenes and were playing HD2 last week.
This week you can't play Helldivers 2 anymore
And you're still out of your money
young hill
Well that is messed up
still spire
Hence why it's blown up so much
young hill
I guess at the very least then people will look at sony games with different perspective now. Probably not close to how incredibly angry some people get at the epic games launcher
still spire
Meanwhile in about two weeks Sony launches their PSN Launcher on PC
Included in Ghosts of Tsushima
Dark times. Dark times.
young hill
And this is the problem with companies being able to just change anything on a whim
dreamy rain
And this is the problem with companies being able to just change anything on a w...
At least theres good backlash from the community
Instead of people complaining and still playing the game
Obviously some people are still gonna play
young hill
Well unfortunately it will not change the words this agreement can be changed without notice
still spire
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rancid hearth
30 seconds damn
pure bear
nice try denuvo marketing twitter
fading spade
You could say Sony are making this game helldive real quickly
fading spade
Sony: going diving
Sony: "OH SHIT, THE PC PLAYERS ARE ATTACKING"
fast idol
Mission report: time 1 second
fading spade
:')
orchid prism
Lovely to see Sony being scum and doubling down.
fading spade
This also means people in countries that can't make an account need to use a VPN and possibly break some law related to this shit
orchid prism
Or you know... just ask for a refund.
fast idol
Or you know... just ask for a refund.
Was about to say
Better to ask for a refund
And give a negative review
Don’t think the hate is justified for the devs and cms
orchid prism
I do - They fucked over their fans.
fast idol
I think its better to blame sony
fading spade
^
fast idol
I do - They fucked over their fans.
The devs of hd2 didn’t make the psn account system
orchid prism
Arrowhead could have taken an equally nuclear option and just detatched crossplay from the base game.
Want to play with your console buddies? Get a PSN account.
fading spade
I think that would be a better option maybe
fringe salmon
You can do crossplay without a PSN account on pc
orchid prism
Sony seems to disagree with that notion 😄
fringe salmon
So I disagree that arrowhead are to blame for that
Yeah but isn’t on arrowheads devs/cm
orchid prism
We'll never know, because all of this debating goes on behind closed doors. I'll argue that they were aware of Sony's rules before release.
Get that refund while you can and abandon sheep
still spire
Or you know... just ask for a refund.
They can't
orchid prism
Yes they can.
still spire
The refund option was removed for these people
orchid prism
No it wasn't.
fringe salmon
We'll never know, because all of this debating goes on behind closed doors. I'll...
Ok now you are changing your argument though, you said it’s fine to hate on both because arrowhead could have done it different, but they did do it different from what you assumed
orchid prism
Ok now you are changing your argument though, you said it’s fine to hate on both...
No. It's fine to hate on Arrowhead, because they are entirely culpable in knowing this situation would come.
Also I am - so - done discussing Helldivers with you specifically, Quin. As are most folks here at this point 😄
still spire
The CMS should've reacted in a professional manner befitting their roles as those who are to interact with the community. No matter how the community acted, they should've brushed it off.
fringe salmon
Arrowhead could have taken an equally nuclear option and just detatched crosspla...
But you literally said they could have prevented it here when they did exactly that and Sony is just enforcing it anyway
still spire
orchid prism
still spire
That overwhelmingly negatives gotta sting
desert remnant
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bleak pike
W I D E
proper basin
Indeed it is W I D E
pure bear
some nutjob is going to recommend a 247:3 screen to get a 0.001% competitive advantage and then everyone copies it
yes that is just my point
orchid prism
Ultrawide is amazing for games that support it. But stretching is never the solution.
And expect to need a GPU upgrade as well 😄
fringe salmon
in competetive games it should not give you a bigger view because then you get to the point where better hardware lets you be a better player which is silly
well yeah it's not making you go up 2 ranks instantly but if you compare how much more information you can get from just seing someone when they cant see you, vs some mouse having 1ms lower latency
orchid prism
Ban 4:3 - Cause it's not the most commonly adapted resolution ratio.
Ban anything above 1080P - it could potentially give you a benefit.
SETTINGS? Can't have that - Someone might be able to look through some grass that doesn't render exactly the same for everyone.
bleak pike
4:3 is dope
On iPads anyway
I miss it A LOT
I used my old iPad again after getting used to 16:10
fringe salmon
I think it should be obvious a higher resolution is not the same as having a 25% wider fov where you can literally see what they cant
orchid prism
Unless I'm specifically playing some kind of ranked, tournament style gamemode, don't limit what my hardware can do.
fringe salmon
that is literally what I am arguing for, in competetive games like cs