Since box prices + Cosmetic MTX?
#🎮│game
still spire
vital wyvern
lots of people are saying that the pass is shit anyway and the weapons aren't better so it's not pay-to-win
I don't know the first thing but if so then it would seem like a review bashing on p2w would be in the wrong
pure bear
oh the good old "how is it p2w if it's pve" argument
dark crown
Hi. Has anyone here tried tekken on a wooting 60he? The rapid trigger can be useful if trying to wave dash or ewgf.
It’s the reason i bought a wooting over a hitbox
Oh but socd works on normal keebs but not on wooting?
still spire
I don't know the first thing but if so then it would seem like a review bashing ...
Mostly people who don't understand DPS metrics
The burning shotgun does like 40% less damage, but has a 60% larger clip + DoT. It can be hugely lifesaving.
That's in the premium
The dominator is only in the Premium pass and can 1-shot many of the high level cyborg enemies, no other primary can do that
vital wyvern
The dominator is only in the Premium pass and can 1-shot many of the high level ...
interesting, I don't play games like this anyway or games that have passes and whatnot, I think just the concept of launching a game with day 1 DLC/paid content is insane
still spire
Yeah it's definitely not the worst otu there and why everyones accepting of it, but it's so weird how they defend it.
Like I'll accept it as a modern evil required for gaming apparently, but I don't defend it.
vital wyvern
i dunno, just makes me not want to play a game if I'm basically required to first pay more on top of the game price on day 1 already, and additionally then bother to grind to complete a pass or something
it's both not fun AND makes me poorer
so I just leave games like this on the shelf to begin with
vital wyvern
ah, something to watch while I eat breakfast
still spire
My god, Neebs calling in a resupply after using a single mag - each time...And Appsro not being able to read. Unlike them honestly.
https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-2-helldivers-gif-16054619589639246419 When playing fetch goes wrong
nimble current
I swear I hate how bouncy the damn grenades are
still spire
Yes it's pretty obnoxious
lol
My biggest annoyance is Stalkers
They have WAY too much HP. An entire shotgun magazine doesn't kill them, and they ragdoll you / one shot you
nimble current
the hulks are pretty painful too
very small weakpoints and almost impossible to damage elsewhere, and torches you in seconds when it gets close 
still spire
Grenades are annoying for bug hoels, you have to make sure they go down to the bottom, not just inside. And since it's the best way to destroy them and you got al imited amount, I find it tedious as hell
vital wyvern
butthole?
still spire
Yep
still spire
Big jiggly butts
vital wyvern
perfect for grenades
still spire
Ugh I hate the bounciness of strategems, need to a destroy a building but hey all bounce off, nades and rocket launches don't work either
Getting one to land on top is near impossible
Stupid matchmaking
Can't complete an objective because the games weird bullshit
Should at least offer a free Hellbomb
vital wyvern
do you have to play this game as a party of 4?
vital wyvern
been watching the video here, it looks like an alright game for a few hours of fun
not something I'm interested in paying for though
maiden tulip
do you have to play this game as a party of 4?
Yes
vital wyvern
one says no and one says yes
maiden tulip
Well the servers are broken
It only works if you actually have friends
Nico and I have been duoing the missions mostly
vital wyvern
yeah that's what I'm mostly asking
maiden tulip
And finding people here and there for our 3rd and 4th players
vital wyvern
can you go in as two
maiden tulip
Like quickplay is broken but invites work
maiden tulip
We generally just play us 2
Unless we play on suicide mission difficulty
That is really tough to duo
But anything under duoing is perfectly fine
vital wyvern
doesn't look like a bad game at any rate, something I'd play for an evening, put down and then forget to ever play again though 
still spire
Yeah, a clear lack of love put into the game by the devs, feels like it needed another year or two baking
maiden tulip
doesn't look like a bad game at any rate, something I'd play for an evening, put...
Probably will be good for you if its on a sale someday
maiden tulip
Yeah, a clear lack of love put into the game by the devs, feels like it needed a...
I mean the core gameplay is just pure fun but yeah i wish things were more polished
The game lacks optimization both in terms of performance and servers
At least the crashing's been fixed now
Haven't crashed a single time after the patches
still spire
Lmao I just
Fucking crashed as you said that
At extract
I know why this is such a clusterfuck now too. Arrowhead just did an interview where they said Sony called in Bungie to help them out.
While developing the games MTX
I want to love this game but it's up there with the other bad releases we had in 2023
maiden tulip
Crashing happens at extrraction a lot
People on x3d cpus seem to get that
I know someone with a 7800x3d always at extraction
still spire
Arrowhead needs to do a 2x XP and 2X Supercredits / Samples month at this rate, no weekend.
maiden tulip
But I never had a crash at extract on my 9700k, nico never had one on his 9400f
I really have a feeling like it's something with 3d vcache
Also i know someone with a 7900x (no 3d) not crashing
still spire
So one of the most popular CPUS of the last 2 years is a problem? That itself is a big problem for the game.
maiden tulip
So one of the most popular CPUS of the last 2 years is a problem? That itself i...
I know
still spire
5800X3D has a very high market share
maiden tulip
Also the 7000 series from amd was borked with ssgi on at release
Amd did release a driver to fix that tho so
orchid prism
Have personally had zero issues with my 7800X3D so far - Though I obviously don't play HD
still spire
Yeah this is in the case of HD2
maiden tulip
Have personally had zero issues with my 7800X3D so far - Though I obviously don'...
Yeah this is specifically a hd2 issue
still spire
It's funny, Darktide got a lot of flak for it's release's technical issues and it was miles ahead of this.
Same Engine
orchid prism
It is very interesting if it's an engine issue though - First I've heard of this.
still spire
Yeah never had crashing issues in Darktide and Vermintide 2
And the fact it always seems to happen around extract would more point to a problem with the game itself.
novel umbra
darktide tied so quickly
still spire
Darktide died because it had similar performance problems and way wrose MTX
It's probably the anti-cheat
There's thousands of reviews of people who can't boot the game because of it
And the game doesn't even tell you why
Like "Close / Uninstall this" ect.
orchid prism
or the anticheat <:giggle:765259312746070086>
One and the same. The anti cheat is there to protect the microtransactions.
still spire
First game was a lot of fun, had offline and couch-op. It had a lot of DLC to be sure, but the core was solid.
Also they packaged all the DLC into a bundle and put it at 90% off during sales so it wasn't an issue for long
orchid prism
novel umbra
still spire
Gamers Workshop really will give the license to anyone
novel umbra
man I really can't not read that name as milkbride
played 2 rounds solo yesterday
didn't even get how to do the objective in the first round
and it spawned so many enemies that I could spend no time figuring it out
fringe salmon
Evacuation civilians missions I guess?
novel umbra
yes
fringe salmon
Yeah had the same and only barely managed to get it done in time still
novel umbra
still got no clue what I would have had to do
fringe salmon
Press interact on the console next to the bunkers
novel umbra
well
would have prob been tough solo
considering how much the enemies clapped me
fringe salmon
They have a yellow or green light and then let 3 civs out and they run to the safety point
Depends, I did solo on normal for that and it was fine
And I still just have the starting gear
fringe salmon
Oh yeah they definitely vary in mission difficulty, probably not as much once you have Auto turrets and such those seem to help a lot on defense missions
But it’s been fun so far I just hope they manage servers and bugs in a reasonable time
novel umbra
also might have been difference between enemy types
first one was robots
the bugs can't really shoot at you as much 
fringe salmon
Yea
still spire
feral ferry
But where's the new SteamOS ISO
fading spade
All we got for now is SteamOS Recovery ISO
hardy merlin
Where's good ol' Debian-based SteamOS? 
fading spade
Archived and abandoned maybe
feral ferry
Archived and abandoned maybe
Good, keep it that way
fading spade
Yeah :')
hardy merlin
bleak pike
DVD iso? Xd
willow quiver
thats not kevin heart is it
willow quiver
bleak pike
Yes it is
willow quiver
why tf is he in every bad comedy movie and shit
still spire
I don't get why people like him
Like he was funny in a couple things but now he's just so ridiculously overused
And he's not even bothering to act anymore
lament ledge
Is Katt Williams voicing Claptrap?
willow quiver
thatd be funny
orchid prism
How do we feel
I feel... nothing. Haven't cared about that franchise after the first game tbh 😄
willow quiver
50cent?
still spire
Someone of her tier being in a movie like this
bleak pike
I feel... nothing. Haven't cared about that franchise after the first game tbh �...
2 was good
orchid prism
Not a fan of the genre as a whole. 1 was plenty.
still spire
It is 11:00 AM EST, a Tuesday morning, and HD2 is full servers
lol.
In 2024
Are they trying the Eric Cartman method here?
fringe salmon
I just don’t see how a movie about it could be not shit
bleak pike
I wasn't the biggest fan of the first
lament ledge
I feel... nothing. Haven't cared about that franchise after the first game tbh �...
I honestly didn't even care enough to finish the first one. Rage did the whole barren wasteland setting better. And that's not much.
hardy merlin
It is 11:00 AM EST, a Tuesday morning, and HD2 is full servers
Looks like they still didn't patched AFK camping... 
still spire
I'm almsot tihnking it's intentional
Steam is down to half it's number last night
Still can't get in
PS5 counts but still
Most people should be at school or wrok
I work nights
Still can't get in :p
fringe salmon
Work is over in European countries
still spire
It's kinda at a point where I think they are actively keeping people out in a weird FOMO to get people to buy it
fringe salmon
Nah I don’t see that
Twitter
This thread from the quoting person is a good read about servers at launch
still spire
Dauntless was kinda an awful game though.
fringe salmon
Which means even more players makes the problems even bigger :p
still spire
Yes but Dauntless was a no name studio of a dozen dudes
Arrowhead has prestige indie studio with decades of experience and 100+ people
fringe salmon
But it’s a good writeup nonetheless, and even arrowhead doesn’t have decades of experience with this large user counts
The thread goes into how they had people from Xbox PlayStation epic and co in a call 24/7 as well so it’s not like the tale of 2 devs doing more networking than they ever did before
Sure could have been made better from the start but it’s not that simple
still spire
An offline mode could've helped a lot
feral ferry
Dauntless was kinda an awful game though. <:duck_sip:1103326776308019362>
I remember getting some early access stuff
It was a really really boring game
fringe salmon
Kinda, but that doesn’t really work well when the premise of the game is coop on a global scale and world maps that update etc. based on what players do
still spire
Kinda, but that doesn’t really work well when the premise of the game is coop on...
Hey you know what? The first game had the exact same system.
And it had offline and local co-op.
You'd simply re-sync your efforts back up to the galactic war when you re-connected.
However, due to the introduction of MTX, they said they couldn't do offline anymore. So this pain is entirely self-inflicted.
fringe salmon
Where did they say that
still spire
Trying to find the interview now, but they talk about it being a deterent to people hacking and getting the DLC Weapons for free ect
By keeping your stuff server side
And thus no offline mode
It's anti-consumer no matter how they defend it
fringe salmon
Ehh I was going to type I could see it as a reason if they saw people cheating the system too much
still spire
I mean the first game did just fine, I played like 50-60 hours and never had any issues with hackers / cheaters
Played a decent amount of offline mode too
It's a simply for profit thing here that is negatively affecting paid customers
fringe salmon
It’s not a competitive pvp game but if the global campaign is going to become more than just a random map I could see it be a valid reason, but don’t know enough about the plans or the first game to draw my conclusions
still spire
The global campaign functions 100% identically to the first game, at least so far.
pure bear
https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1avhrz6/i_thought_gameguard_was_mea...
haha
hardy merlin
Years ago we used to use various multihacks in Metin2
Lest to say it used the same anticheat
pure bear
common drm L
pure bear
Years ago we used to use various multihacks in Metin2
Lest to say it used the sa...
metin2 
i used to troll the forums
still spire
It's just shitty when they put in this awful anti-cheat that hurts the paying customer and doesn't affect cheaters.
pure bear
as is tradition
fringe salmon
How does it hurt the customer here though also the poster clarified it was a capped payout
hardy merlin
EAC and BattlEye aren't much different
Top Apex ranked are rampart cheaters, item vacuuming and RMT is booming in Tarkov...
still spire
How does it hurt the customer here though also the poster clarified it was a cap...
Capped? They still got way more than normal
Those 100 they got at the end, capped? Would've porbably taken them like 40-50 hours to get
still spire
How does it hurt the customer here though also the poster clarified it was a cap...
WEll you can't use SpecialK, some people can't use MSI AB, some people can't use OBS, and some people the game won't launch at all and it won't tell them why
But it it's GameGuard that's blocking them
hardy merlin
metin2 <:calderpog:984103948170444850>
Drachenmacht Schamane main here 
Still remember when we used to play in German, because the game wasn't updated to version with Polish on certain private servers
pure bear
oof
fringe salmon
also started the game just now and got in directly lol so dont think it's that full
novel umbra
big numbers are such good brain stiumlation
orchid prism
You gambler, you.
novel umbra
Balatro is so great
willow quiver
Does anyone know how to make ping limit on CS2 MM less than 25?
hardy merlin
mm_dedicated_search_maxping doesn't work?
hardy merlin
Why? 
unique bane
my mm ping is always 10
fringe salmon
the ping it shows on your scoreboard or the actual ping
unique bane
but location specific thing. Most servers are prob somewhere nearby for me
hardy merlin
My ping is around 3 Fiber and Volvo most likely uses the same ISP as I do in Poland
fringe salmon
I bet if you type ping in console it will be higher
hardy merlin
I dunno, my brother plays CS, not me, I'll ask him next time
fringe salmon
bc the ping they show you on scoreboard is fake
like shows 20 for me but its really 46 or something
unique bane
bc the ping they show you on scoreboard is fake
scoreboard shows ping and the other roundtrip prob lol
fringe salmon
nah
I forgot what it was its been too long since i played tf2 and cared about their network code
unique bane
I havent cared after 1.6
willow quiver
unless you put a lan cable into the servers
Netherlands is 7 ping for me
I want to avoid the 25 ping servers
fringe salmon
are you sure thats 7 ping for you when you type ping into the console?
because I'd imagine they look at that and not the scoreboard fake ping for connections
fallow bronze
Back in the day when I played HL mods single digit pings did happen frequently
trim rock
Yeah I get like 3 or 7 depending on which server I get matched to
tbh I'm too casual to notice much of a difference compared to 20, or even 100
fallow bronze
Will 20 and 100 is noticeable imho
trim rock
Like if I could I would happily choose to not match in Europa just to avoid all the cancerous russki
Even if it meant giving up this
Wonder why loss is so high
pure bear
weeb
orchid prism
motion blur
natural
Pick one.
pure bear
john madden, fixer of the moon
feral ferry
Afaik no new games
pure bear
maybe they finally figured out how to update SV graphics to gamecube levels
at a 60$ price tag of course
feral ferry
Only on Switch 2
pure bear
does it have an apu from 2018 or what is that power
vapid lintel
feral ferry
Respectable hardware for a new Switch tbf, they won't be on the current gen or future gen, but pretty modern
Orin's not bad
pure bear
that would be a huge stepup for nintendo
feral ferry
Yes
And people are thinking there's no way it can do 4K lol
I think it'll definitely be able to upscale to 4K30
feral ferry
1080p60 base, if we are EXTREMELY lucky they'll do 120
feral ferry
but how confirmed is that
There are rumours they ran Zelda TOTK at 4K in a conference
I think it was TOTK?
Just look up VGC's article on that
small comet
wasnt it TOTZF?
feral ferry
TOTZF?
small comet
tears of the zelda fans
pure bear
ah yes
feral ferry
tears of the zelda fans
Tbf it was a bit of a shit game lol
It ran like ass at least
small comet
im personally no big fan either mostly cause its no new land to explore like every other zelda before was
feral ferry
Idk how 15FPS is acceptable
pure bear
im personally no big fan either mostly cause its no new land to explore like eve...
really weird that one
I have never seen anything about it beyond the goofy crafting system
but it is nintendo so it was immediately GOTYYYY
small comet
well its literally breath of the wild but later and now with caves under the map and sky islands
pure bear
waow
small comet
so you start TOTK in a cool new environment and then... you are back in BOTW map but without any of your BOTW progress
feral ferry
But CAVES
And.. shitty underbaked crafting/sticking parts together system
And.. SKY ISLANDS... that are mostly empty
hardy merlin
Idk how 15FPS is acceptable
It's not
Even Nintendo nowadays makes games that only work good on emulators
small comet
id have rather liked to see a twilight princess remake tbh
feral ferry
I went into TOTK hoping for a Besieged type of experience
Like, stick a bunch of stuff together, make a tank or something
Massive war blimp
10 part limit
I couldn't even make a simple war balloon
At 15FPS as well
Like, piss off
hardy merlin
And yet, they wanted to patent it
Despite the fact Garry's Mod did it over 10 years earlier, and better...
feral ferry
That little ultrahand thing isn't anything impressive
If anything it's a major disappointment how underbaked it feels
Idk the game for me just felt fine for an underpowered system
But a lot of wasted potential they could have left for Switch 2 and expand the systems
hardy merlin
BUTIT'SNAMEDAFTERCLASSICNINTENDOTOYULTRAHANDDON'TYOUUNDERSTAND?!
feral ferry
I don't even hate Nintendo that much lol
But BoTW while I also found boring, actually seemed like a better game
I just want to play Pokemon games lol, that is the only franchise I care for from Nintendo
small comet
I just want to play Pokemon games lol, that is the only franchise I care for fro...
yikes you are worse of than zelda fans then
hardy merlin
The only beef I had with BoTW was ending
Like... defeat Ganon... a cutscene... and game reverts back to a moment before a fight?
I'd love to at least see some small changes to the world or something...
small comet
poor soul
feral ferry
Tbf I finished the past 3-4 mainline Pokemon entries, they were all pretty damn fun
I for one welcome the new 3D open world era of Pokemon
small comet
imo they are all trash
pure bear
the oopenworld 3d is fine
the fact it runs and looks horrible isnt
and dexit I will never forgive
feral ferry
Eh I don't mind that
pure bear
HIGH QUALITY ANIMATIONS
feral ferry
I still play PSX games from time to time
small comet
for me it sort of went down around the time ORAS came out
feral ferry
So graphics don't matter much
pure bear
for me it sort of went down around the time ORAS came out
yup
small comet
and while i love 3rd gen... ORAS for me was a disappointment
pure bear
So graphics don't matter much
not graphics per se but it came a tthe coist of style
feral ferry
What was wrong with Alpha Sapphire?
pure bear
oras was okay for me
small comet
first id still have loved an emerald edition, id also loved to have the clothing system of BW2 (which came out before it) but we didnt get that, battle tower vanished into nothingness
overall disappointing for endgame
feral ferry
My first Pokemon game was actually Y
Played it like 2019 on waifu's 3DS
I don't like at all the linear Pokemons
small comet
but they are all linear
feral ferry
Sword and Shield was like a weird linear/open world mix and that was so much more fun
feral ferry
but they are all linear
In terms of world design
I kinda just like, let's say in Scarlet, going into the level 60 pokemon areas right off the bat at game start and trying my luck catching high end pokemon
Cause that's fun, and I don't want to bother with the story
feral ferry
Idk what that is
feral ferry
I have not heard of it
small comet
it is the hardest pokemon rom out there
feral ferry
Ehh I don't like souls games either
feral ferry
As in, hard games
small comet
instead of just long arm everyone with higher levels
feral ferry
I kinda like to fuck about in sandboxes
maiden tulip
Sword and Shield was like a weird linear/open world mix and that was so much mor...
Sw/Sh was fun
But i like S/V better
feral ferry
I didn't play the expansion pack, with the little ice themed world
I wonder if that's fun
maiden tulip
Also 3ds wise sun/moon was the goat (besides alpha ruby cuz well remake)
maiden tulip
I didn't play the expansion pack, with the little ice themed world
The expansion packs were dope
Loved em
feral ferry
They should just make a Pokemon MMORPG
Give us yearly expansions or whatever
(Tbf, that already exists, unofficially, but an official one)
small comet
idk i had enough of pokemon mmo after playing certain ones that combine gen 1 - 3
hardy geyser
does wooting really make a diffrence in fortnite compared to other mech key boards
hardy geyser
yea i already ordered it. is the lower latency really noticeble
maiden tulip
does wooting really make a diffrence in fortnite compared to other mech key boar...
it will make you victory royale #1
in lego fortnite
feral ferry
yea i already ordered it. is the lower latency really noticeble
Yes
Buy it
Now
hardy geyser
its on its way
maiden tulip
It's a nice keyboard
hardy geyser
what is the ms on it
maiden tulip
But honestly it's not a keyboard that's gonna make you win at fortnite
Peripherals won't make you win
Lol
Skills will
Does it feel nice to use tho yes
It's probably better than what you were using previously tho
hardy geyser
i know but i have like 5 yr old mech keyboard and was wonderin is the diffrence really noticble
hardy geyser
It's probably better than what you were using previously tho
ok
maiden tulip
It feels way better than my old mech keyboard from 2019
If that's what you want to know
Made me regret not getting it sooner
Feels good
I'm just saying tho a peripheral won't make you win if that's what you're sayibg
hardy geyser
yeah
proper basin
Peripherals won't make you win
I dunno maaaaan my fortnite festival scores are at their highest 
maiden tulip
I dunno maaaaan my fortnite festival scores are at their highest <:blaaaaaah:100...
o shit
i see a furry
proper basin
pure bear
I'm the resident furry trash
do you have a fursuit
maiden tulip
pure bear
that is a cat
maiden tulip
yes
proper basin
1 assigned per server
maiden tulip
but she's made out of fursuit material
maiden tulip
<:DripSweat:955864735662878730>
only thing that allows for more than 1 is if the 2 furries are together and my husband @rapid bramble is already here
gotta find another server now i'm sorry
proper basin
orchid prism
#🐸│memes is your destination.
rapid bramble
Oh woops
maiden tulip
Nico say thanks to the nice man who did your rma
rapid bramble
Thanks for doing what the rest of the company couldn't xd
fringe salmon
ff14 flashbacks of them literally stopping sales till servers got fixed lmao
proper basin
Oh my god my favorite discontinued moba is coming back
bleak pike
maiden tulip
Bungie is a meme nowadays
lament ledge
Bungie has always been overrated.
severe compass
The saddest part is despite Bungie's constant fuckups theya re still better then 90% of the AAA industry.
Really tells you just how bad the industry has gotten
feral ferry
Ah right I don't remember anyone posting this
Tomorrow
Some games were confirmed by leakers
Old school game remakes I guess? Never heard of them
Seems like a cool direct, heard that Gamefreak might have an appearance
feral ferry
OI
Twitter
IT'S HAPPENING
EVERYBODY STAY CALM
What the fuck is the size of this DLC
hardy merlin
feral ferry
It's been 2 years
hardy merlin
Time to almost throw Deck at the wall again, less go 🥳
feral ferry
Tbf I barely played Elden Ring lol
It was my first souls title and I quit just after the first boss
The whole "die until you can defeat the boss" is just not fun
fringe salmon
just dont die to it then
feral ferry
You can frick off
hardy merlin
I dunno, there's something to it
I didn't like Dark Souls either, but there was something in Elden Ring that kept me playing
On the contrary Sekiro got boring when I figured out you can steamroll through the game by just spamming attacks
feral ferry
If I could make received damage like.. 4x less, I might have fun
feral ferry
With Elden Ring I just went exploring and find cool shit, and you get ambushed by overpowered shit, or backstabbed by scripted encounter
Then you have to go back there to get your runes back
lament ledge
If I could make received damage like.. 4x less, I might have fun <:havo:97582161...
NG+ makes you feel like a bad dude
feral ferry
And die anyways losing your progress
lament ledge
But that first playthrough is a bitch
feral ferry
Meh, I get the entertainment, but I don't like souls games
I'd rather play sandboxes
lament ledge
Oh I get it. I literally snapped my copy of Bloodborne
And I have Sekiro but haven't played past that first hour or so.
feral ferry
Unironically? Bloodborne was so damn captivating visuals wise
Died a few times to some rabble, killed first boss on first attempt, and got bored
Why's it a souls game
Make it an RPG
young hill
still spire
If bloodborne is an RPG then your yearly CoD is an rpg
You kill enemies, get XP and level up. You get new gear and you take on the role of a character
It's an action RPG perhaps due to real time combat
maiden tulip
Waiting for hd2 queue
still spire
But it's not an OLED, so why bother
Also you can actually play that one offline, the superior game
maiden tulip
Also you can actually play that one offline, the superior game
Yes
maiden tulip
But it's not an OLED, so why bother
I could go grab my vita downstairs lol
still spire
Lol
still spire
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/b8ZiLahOrDg/maxresdefault.jpg Need to add these guys back ASAP.
still spire
lol
maiden tulip
I did it yesterday because it was my day off and nico's day off
maiden tulip
To be fair we only stayed logged on for an hour
We just went to the store to get groceries
still spire
That's an hour two other people could've played.
maiden tulip
Arrowhead
still spire
It's Arrowhead.
maiden tulip
Sorry
still spire
Next patch they said
maiden tulip
Also ps5 players are staying logged in accidentally
maiden tulip
Yep
But some people left their game on for like
Multiple hours
Thats rude
An hour at most i think is fair
maiden tulip
It takes like 30 mins to an hour
To get into the game
From our experience
Could have logged off and queued back in immediately
Leave for an hour
Came back
rapid bramble
with how awful the servers are, I'd say 30 min
still spire
30 minutes, anything more would just be too much
still spire
Not bad
maiden tulip
I'm just saying it would be more fair for everyone
rapid bramble
it was like 50 minutes, they just need to fix their servers
The game will die if they don't very fast
maiden tulip
YOu lost all right to complain, AFKing for an hour 😛
Sorry i had to get food so we don't starve
And to be fair i thought it would take 30 mins tops
rapid bramble
also we expected to be gone 20 min
rapid bramble
yea but can't change the past
still spire
Sony called Bungie in to "Help" Arrowhead with helldivers 2 development.
maiden tulip
Lol
still spire
Bungie has been shit for decades
rapid bramble
if I go to the store I'll close it, but if I'm taking a shower I won't
maiden tulip
But yeah the afking is bsd some people afk for like
Their whole work day
Its insane
still spire
I was playing earlier, managed a party. Got some guy who was level 47
Like jesus christ
How much has he played since launch
maiden tulip
rapid bramble
jesus, i'm lvl 28 with 60 hours
still spire
Yeah ait gets exponentially more XP
The higher you go
He was also a prick we ended up kicking cause he sat around the whole time typing about how boring the missions were and asking if we were done while he sat at extract
"cause "it was too easy" being on Suicide when he wanted Helldive, but he was the one joining us 😛
rapid bramble
yikes
still spire
Well, we were doiong it with a 4 man team so it wasn't bad
But then he just gave up
And started bitching at us for not doing Helldives
Like we don't even hacked it unlocked
lol
maiden tulip
I widh yhr game had lan
lament ledge
I widh yhr game had lan
What
lament ledge
Uh huh
still spire
Yeah, be fantastic if it did
It'd take a lot of pressure off the servers
But hey, it's now a live service game so...yeah
lament ledge
Why is everyone dick riding this Helldivers game?
still spire
Because flavor of the month
lament ledge
I figured
still spire
Honestly it's strange, this game is the same as the first game, but a shit ton more grindier -
With cosmetic MTX
But, it switched to the third person from top down
And yet it's over 100x more popular in terms of player count
still spire
Goes from peaking at like 10K with PC + PS3/PS4/Vita to 500K+ with PS5/PC.
And this is after heavy hitters the last few months in terms of games. Really surprising
rapid bramble
With cosmetic MTX
but you can get the paid currency by playing, unlike most games
maiden tulip
Why is everyone dick riding this Helldivers game?
People are stupid
still spire
True, but at a truly awful rate
lament ledge
People are stupid
Said the fox who is always on
rapid bramble
true, but slow and grindy is better than not at all
still spire
Warframe allowed you to grind out it's premium currency at a much beter rate.
better*
maiden tulip
Said the fox who is always on
The game is good but i've played the previous game a lot on the vita
newcomers bad
they ruined my game by taking up server space
And sony bad for mtx
😛
rapid bramble
newcomers bad
maiden tulip
https://tenor.com/view/ill-see-myself-out-im-leaving-bye-baby-yoda-gif-21233230
yeah shame on nico
The game is appealing now that it aint top down
rapid bramble
I didn't know the game's existence until the day it came out lol
maiden tulip
I tried to make him play HD1 and he was like no lets do something else 😦
still spire
THems the rules.
lament ledge
You've already logged 66 hours in less than 2 weeks...
maiden tulip
You've already logged 66 hours in less than 2 weeks...
yes
still spire
To be fair, Steams number count is kinda bullshit.
maiden tulip
nico and i are addicted
still spire
Steam says 37 hours for me. But HD2 in game says closer to 23-24 hours
maiden tulip
We've spent our weekend playing
lament ledge
To be fair, Steams number count is kinda bullshit.
Depends on of you don't close it
still spire
And no way in fuck was I at the ship for 10+ hours
maiden tulip
Steam says 37 hours for me. But HD2 in game says closer to 23-24 hours
I can see in game?
still spire
Nah
yeah the in game has a nunmber
But some games counter are weird
Take SteamVR. For some reason it counts every 1 hour as 2
Not sure why some games are like this
rapid bramble
In-Mission Time: 34h19m
rapid bramble
No way i spent half my time on the ship
And trying to even get into the ship
still spire
Which is absurd
maiden tulip
And trying to even get into the ship
Lmao
I think servers broke and didn't count some stats
When it all went down with no rewards
We kept playing
I feel like that time didn't get tracked
If the server can't make the mission appear completed
Like we'd be stuck restarting the same sector over and over again
lament ledge
You two are funny
maiden tulip
Because of it
still spire
You two are funny
Replace the n's
lament ledge
That too
maiden tulip
You two are funny
lol
maiden tulip
Furries are fun everyone knows that
lament ledge
Furries are fun everyone knows that
Uuuuuuhhhhh
maiden tulip
Shit updates forever
I only played it a little and i have like too many hours due to that
still spire
Like I remember when I booted up VRChat, I'd play for like 2 hours and it'd say I played for 6
Some games have weird behavior
lament ledge
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwww
maiden tulip
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwww
What's wrong with having played a flight sim a little
maiden tulip
https://tenor.com/view/furry-cosplay-fursuit-scream-meme-gif-25192826
Murder
still spire
Well fur is murder, so it makes sense furries are murderers.
rapid bramble
faux fur go brr
still spire
In on the first try. Laptop power usage go brrr.
lol
Yeah, I undervolted too, but it works well enough at work
This game just pushes more than a benchmark
That's all
Not many game s can push a 4090 and a 5800X3D to 100% usage at 1440p, but this game can
my Laptops 13900HX and 4080 Mobile are tryin their best
Seriously my 4080 mobile seeing almost 100% usage on the ship despite using their disgusting upscaling filter
Like what the hell lol
trim rock
Next gen
maiden tulip
@still spire wanna play?
still spire
I'm at work, mobile hotspot, not a good idea really.
still spire
Yeah but I mean GPU usage is still way too high for this game
It's not using raytracing lmao
maiden tulip
Yeah im generally at like 96% gpu usage constantly
At max
60-70fpa
W bugs/combat
still spire
Even without
trim rock
But look at the graphics it's insane
still spire
lol
maiden tulip
Same as wgen i have no enemies around lol
trim rock
The next Crysis
rapid bramble
I drop to 24 fps on suicide with explosions
maiden tulip
If i lower settings i can get more fps but then as soon aa bugs show up back to 60-70 lol
So im just cranking my graphics
Game engine never reaches above 96%
Gpu
Its basically capped at that
still spire
Yeah it is bad
maiden tulip
Stuck at that %
still spire
But if I don't use it at my laptop I can't even do 90 on an empty screen lmao
maiden tulip
Wow
still spire
maiden tulip
Wtf
But yeah my 9700k @5ghz holding up decently
Nico's 9400f tho
Its struggling on higher difficulties
With more enemies
still spire
Game badly needs DLSS and FrameGen
maiden tulip
Diring fight
9700k 5ghz + 7900xtx + 32gb 3600 5120x1440
Ultra
Its intense on both
Especially cpu
To am insane level
Generally its not noticeable but this game holy shit xd
willow quiver
guys M9 or butterfly
maiden tulip
Normally because of my hi res i'm gpu bound even on this older cpu
I'm planning on upgrading when zen5 releases tho
Newer games starting to push cpu more
still spire
Yeah but this game straight out is unoptimized aand isn't getting called out on that fact in reviews
Abit frustrating
maiden tulip
So far this and cp2077 PL w max crowd setting) are the 2 cases i noticed it in
WIth cp2077 just having crowds set to medium fixed it
still spire
This laptop can run many better looking games at 120 no problem, but this one, not a chance.
maiden tulip
Besides that im not held back
Nico will be happy going from a 9400f to my 9700k when i upgrade tho
He's my parts bin, he takes what i leave behind
Like my 2080 lol
maiden tulip
This laptop can run many better looking games at 120 no problem, but this one, n...
The AC does random cpu spikes for no reason
I'm sure its related to that
rapid bramble
Yeah but this game straight out is unoptimized aand isn't getting called out on ...
it isn't getting called out yet because people are focusing on the other issues
maiden tulip
^^^^
People are more focused on getting in servers rn
And the game is fun despite it's bad optimization
Dont have atmos but the surround is good
Imo
Ask @still spire he's more of an audio person than i am
still spire
No idea about Atmos ,but surround mix is actually good
It separatelys properly spatially
Separates*
It's one of the best uses of spatial sound I've heard in a long time actually
Echo and reverb are there as well
That said there seems to be a blind spot for audio as enemies get closer to you, almost like a cone. i.e, Stalkers are invisibile but they make a distinct noise as they approach, and yet as soon as they get close they're muted, but other players can still hear them making that sound. It's quite weird. Same with smaller bugs and enemies, but it's only if they;'re really close.
Really hoping for FrameGen honestly, only because that takes some pressure off the CPU which is one of the main battlenecks on my Desktop.
Bottlenecks*
Boo
Not trivial? A lot of devs add it to their games in a week or less
And Darktide is using the same Engine as this, has DLSS and FrameGen, as well as FSR and XeSS
willow quiver
Really hoping for FrameGen honestly, only because that takes some pressure off t...
What’s your specs
still spire
My Desktop is a 5800X3D and 4090. Running at 3440x1440p.
My Laptop is a 13900HX and a 4080, running at 2560x1600p. Both targetting 120.
willow quiver
stretch res?
maiden tulip
@still spire i mean it won't really take anything off the cpu
120fg doesn't feel like real 120
still spire
Ehh? You must be doing it wrong then.
Cause it really does
If you've set it up properly
If unless you're trying to take 60 to 120
FrameGen works best when you can achieve at least 90-100FPS
still spire
With DLSS, it'd put me in there yeah
maiden tulip
And framegen really doesn't like drops
It likes a stable framerate that doesn't move much
still spire
There's no harm in adding it
still spire
Also they need to patch out starting the game at Ultra Quality
the Render scale that is
It makes people think the game looks even worse 😛
Also gives false hope on performance
What I mean is it sets the game to like 70% render scale
By default
That's their Ultra Quality. 😛
TAA, but yes, SSAA is an option
maiden tulip
Also gives false hope on performance
So do people who benchmark en empty planets
Or at anything lower than hard difficulty
still spire
Yeah DF's video is of them at like Easy Difficulty staring at a rock
maiden tulip
Lol
still spire
"Game seems to run ok"
maiden tulip
They're idiots
still spire
Disappointed, their videos are usaully in depth and I really wanted to see their HD2 one
But then it was...nothing lol
maiden tulip
Let me show you a meme
maiden tulip
still spire
Wanted one like this for HD2
still spire
too long for a meme
maiden tulip
On an empty planet with NO ENEMIES
still spire
It uses the same engine
maiden tulip
lowest difficulty
maiden tulip
It uses the same engine
Vita port when 🤪
still spire
Xbox port first
Just so they can clog servers too
I understand that, but Arrowhead has been making games for a long time too
rapid bramble
Switch port
still spire
They're actually almost the same age
maiden tulip
I understand that, but Arrowhead has been making games for a long time too
Not on this scale tho
still spire
lol
rapid bramble
oh lmao
still spire
Cats are evil so it was a good pick
maiden tulip
still spire
Yeah I heard mAgicak 2 sucked anyways
rapid bramble
it wasn't as fun as magicka 1, but it wasn't bad
still spire
It doesn't hold a candle to the original Gauntlet tho
Or dark legends
Dark legacy*
maiden tulip
I'm jusr saying the scale of the projects
HD2 is something completely different for them
maiden tulip
Gameplay wise yes but there's more that goes into game dev
still spire
I get that
It's a sahme the game is gonna die though if they don't fix their shit soon
maiden tulip
The core is the same but a lot of things have changed
still spire
Where are our mine sweeping missions
Sega Genesis / PS1 / PS2 era was peak gaming an d it's all been downhill since.
maiden tulip
y
maiden tulip
you can play it
maiden tulip
Why not?
nimble current
nimble current
think the point being made it didn't have anywhere close to the same interest
still spire
And the game is Peer to Peer, shouldn't matter
This is amatuer hour shit, not a studio with 100+ devs and decades of exerience. :p
I managed to get paired with some Koreans, but they had English names, they asked if the lag was bad, I said it was alright and they said they were in Korea, I asked why "Cuz we live there lol"
I meant "why am I being matched with people in Korea" though
lol
pure bear
yeah but one is AAAA
still spire
And one will make you go to AA.
nimble current
its like modern studios are asking to get humiliated by their customers these days
make up outrageous pricetags and reasons for people to pay them, release unfinished, buggy or just generally underwhelming turds, go online and bitch about customers views and opinions publically
novel umbra
prob ps3 footage
pure bear
make up outrageous pricetags and reasons for people to pay them, release unfinis...
as a 30$ game this might actually be ok from what the reviews say
nimble current
a quadruple A game for $30? that's crazy talk my guy
maiden tulip
yeah but one is AAAA
If i add Anti Aliasing will it make it AAAAAA
pure bear
a quadruple A game for $30? that's crazy talk my guy
yeah that would take awareness
still spire
still spire
tough jay
They could probably scale things up / have excess capacity at launch.
BattleBit has shown even a small, few people studio can have a popular launch while making sure there is enough server capacity.
Just need to A prepare and B be willing to spend, these issues are entirely their fault imo.
still spire
Imagine having servers be at capacity for a P2P COOP game.
It's bad.
For sure
most profitable part of their lifecycle right now and people can't play, can't buy their MTX ect
nimble current
but muh always online always logged in service for your best experience
still spire
Yeah but you could've gotten it all for a dollar
still spire
Mmkay
The whole game and DLC was on sale for less than a dollar just recently
Your money tho
rapid bramble
What does it matter if people have fun?
maiden tulip
The whole game and DLC was on sale for less than a dollar just recently
10$ is the lowest im seeing recorded on steamdb
At least here
hardy merlin
Could've cropped it
Still, it was C$3 or so
small comet
again no questionable gamekey sites
hardy merlin
GG.Deals is not a questionable site though You can filter by official stores only too
small comet
thats not the default
by default it lists any and all keystores including questionable ones
novel umbra
by default it lists any and all keystores including questionable ones
I mean it kinda does
tough jay
I personally think there is a place for key resellers, but if you don't want to include them there is always isthereanydeal
small comet
im aware but im also sure you all know why we wouldnt want those random key stores in here
novel umbra
I personally think there is a place for key resellers, but if you don't want to ...
there really is no place for keysellers
neither morally or legally
maiden tulip
I may have impulse bought it @still spire @hardy merlin
novel umbra
and by eu law you could often be persecuted and judged for money laundering
maiden tulip
And not looked elsewhere
hardy merlin
I personally think there is a place for key resellers, but if you don't want to ...
ITAD is awful, uses its own EUR/USD->other currencies exchange rates and completely ignores official prices in other currencies
tough jay
Ah, only ever use EUR so I guess I never encountered those issues
small comet
either way yall can discuss any legitimate game key seller like GMG, Humble, etc. just not the quite questionable
rapid bramble
Is g2a legitimate or no?
rapid bramble
Ah
tough jay
Reselling licenses is perfectly legitimate, I also want to state that game publishers / dev offer practically no way to verify the keys in question are not stolen / review codes.
There is also a distinction I would make between marketplaces and direct resellers.
novel umbra
too bad that non-legit sites often rely on credit card theft
hardy merlin
Fanatical They have some great monthly bundles, also straight from publisher
tough jay
I personally hardly ever buy from key resellers, most of the time it's not even that much cheaper.
Just saying I am not against the concept of reselling keys, just the keys that are being resold are problematic.
novel umbra
and there is no way to verify if they are legit
tough jay
Which is not just to blame on the reseller but also on the publishers offering no tools for flagging.
orchid prism
We've had this discussion ad nauseum.
Ultimately buyer beware - Any key sold "second hand" is at risk of being sourced illegally. You can never truly tell, if your game will suddenly vanish 3 months from now (or straight up just not work), because a chargeback has finally processed at the bank after a credit card has been stolen and used to buy keys.
Publishers seemingly have no interest in helping with "curating" these keys either, so customers are just solidly SOL in this regard.
Websites like G2A, Kinguin (and so on) definitely have lots of perfectly legitimate keys - But they also have their fair share of bad ones. You have no way of telling, and common sense should apply here.
tough jay
So concept and execution are two different matters here.
maiden tulip
Really? You bought it <@159037941916762112>
Shaming my game purchases in public is a bit mean tho
Ill say
novel umbra
We've had this discussion ad nauseum.
Ultimately buyer beware - Any key sold "s...
just fyi, g2a was also known to steal cc info for some time
orchid prism
Ah yeah that does ring a bell. G2A is definitely not operating in good faith.
maiden tulip
And its an indie studio and i like the game
tough jay
In the rare case I do / did buy from resellers I at least made sure not to buy from those market places.
still spire
lol
maiden tulip
Only thing i got from g2a were ea games because fuck ea
maiden tulip
https://tenor.com/view/shame-go-t-game-of-thrones-walk-of-shame-shameful-gif-494...
I mean its a little rude
rapid bramble
I've gotten games from g2a in the past, but pretty much stopped after a game I got was deactivated and I got a refund
still spire
You're a furry, you know no shame, so I'm fine. Can't shame the shameless.
Lol oh cmon
It was harmless
fringe salmon
Nah shouldn’t get anything ever from g2a because as it was mentioned that could’ve been from stolen credit cards which doesn’t hurt ea at all just the person who’s card got used
rapid bramble
hardy merlin
G2A is the scummiest of all
Try to buy something and be hit with multiple fees pulled straight from the ass
tough jay
G2A and kinguin are definitely bad actors.
maiden tulip
tough jay
I would say in general key marketplaces are a bad idea, as it does require some trust to verify the source.
hardy merlin
For the last year or so I only used Humble, Fanatical or bought straight from Steam, it's just cheaper that way
tough jay
I also linked that video before