🎮│game

[hardy merlin]

There was this one NFT project, promoted itself with nice new Zelda/anime like style animation
No one bought any NFT out of its pool of 10k

[fading spade]

XD

[tropic vapor]

what makes zelda animation and anime the same thing

[hardy merlin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1ijQhuJkCY

[fading spade]

idk

[tropic vapor]

i assume by zelda they mean how genshit vaguely looks like botw on the absolute bare minimum surface level

[hardy merlin]

That's why I wrote new Zelda

[fading spade]

NFT orn games LOL

[tropic vapor]

i get its called genshin i just dont like gacha games

[hardy merlin]

Me neither

[tropic vapor]

are nfts better or worse than gacha though

which one is actively more harmful

[hardy merlin]

Gachas are P2W, but still offer some kind of game
NFTs are straight up scam

[fading spade]

imma delere thatxd

[tropic vapor]

yeah but with nfts most people recognize them as a straight up scam

so gachas actually pose more of a lurking danger as people are more likely to fall for them

[hardy merlin]

Gachas are nothing more than mobile P2W games, but with half-naked anime girls/boys, catering to weebs
But still, there at least is a game

So I lean towards NFTs being worse out of those two

[tropic vapor]

thats fair

nfts are genuinely awful and are straight up scams

imagine how terrifying it would be if the 2 "genres" got merged

suddenly its a super scam

although actually now that i think of it

a decent amount of nft "games" do use gacha elements

[hardy merlin]

Nevermind, they sold nearly 5k of those
I was so sad it was NFT project and not some kind of game/animation
But at least Break!!! releases soon, so that's a plus

[hardy merlin]

Oh yeah, BAYC and their "pass system"

[tropic vapor]

also wait if nft games are supposedly free to play, why cant you participate in a lot of them without owning some scam NFT

doesnt that make them by definition not free

[trim rock]

You can

You just have to borrow some NFTs from existing owners if there's not a straight up free pleb way of playing

[hardy merlin]

I know there are some, which allow you to play, but they give you some random freebie avatar, which is worth nothing even for cryptobros

[orchid prism]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrbDWq64BNg

My reaction to this entire discussion.

[trim rock]

Obviously because the owners have no desire to play the game, they just want to have other people grind out monies

[tropic vapor]

tbh NFTs are really dumb

[tropic vapor]

wait what the

whats even the point of an NFT game if the owners of the NFTs dont even want to play it

other than get rich quick scheme i guess

[trim rock]

Make money

That's literally it, they see it as an investment

[tropic vapor]

so the "game" of an NFT game is just a bullshit front to hawk nfts

and thats all it is

kinda assumed as much

[tropic vapor]

ok i just watched that video it made me laugh

but yeah NFTs are basically a joke

[hot spire]

So cs?

[tropic vapor]

i have fault with lootboxes in most games if they cost money
theyre not necessarily nfts and may be tradeable but i still think its dumb even if its not as egregious as nfts

partially why i have such a burning hatred for gacha games

[hot spire]

Most cs traders don't play

It's a speculative market

[tropic vapor]

thats silly tbh

[hot spire]

How so

[tropic vapor]

i thought the entire point of getting skins/knives is to see them in game

[hot spire]

I mean in the surface

But valve makes to most money on real world trading

People buy bulk keys from valve and bulk crates from other players

And the crate money valve gets a cut off, and you can only spend on steam

[tropic vapor]

again though i still think the system is dumb

i also dont like battle passes either but thats for a different reason of them not respecting peoples' time

[hot spire]

It's win win win for valve lol

And as much as people hate LTT for it, valve is king of trust me bro

[tropic vapor]

i have never gotten my value's worth out of a battle pass in any game tbh
because i dont play enough to get any of the good stuff on a battle pass and then it just ends

[tropic vapor]

i mean even time works in valve like that

you can never trust a time estimate from valve

[hot spire]

Bp with fixed unlocks are fine

Random loot is sketch

[tropic vapor]

yeah theyre fine from the no lootboxes standpoint

[hot spire]

Tradable random loot is bad

[tropic vapor]

i just dont like battle passes cause they demand inhuman amounts of time to get all the stuff on them

[hot spire]

That's basic marketing over promise under deliver

[tropic vapor]

you practically described the entire AAA industry there lol

[hot spire]

Hence basic marketing

[orchid prism]

ohno

[tropic vapor]

why are there a decent chunk of people still clinging to 7 refusing to let go of it

like its horribly insecure now and can probably be hacked without user interaction

i get it was basically the last good windows version, but like i don't think thats worth having zero security updates and vulnerabilities by the truckload

[orchid prism]

I don't understand it either. I was hesistant on 11 due to some weird issues I was having early on, but now I run 11 daily with some 10 UI tweaks.

Same tweaks could turn it into more of a 7 experience for sure.

This would be considered heresy in 11 😄

[feral ferry]

Cause it's the best OS

7 was incredible, still probably is

[tropic vapor]

again though its genuinely not worth having vulnerabilities out the ass

its not gonna be the best OS for long once it becomes infested with malware

i get windows went downhill but end of support is a death sentence for any software product

as then it becomes insecure and vulnerable

i mean look at the legacy driver issue on modern windows thats causing people to have insecure systems

anything that loses support is inherently vulnerable to attack

[feral ferry]

https://insider-gaming.com/assassins-creed-red-yasuke/

Actually interesting

Yasuke has a bunch of books on him, the general consensus is that the character is real

[orchid prism]

Interesting. Hope they handle it better than AC3.

[feral ferry]

Metatron had a cool vid on the topic https://youtu.be/4IXuhQxqQBA

Real character, unlikely a samurai as that was a nobility title

More of a high-ranking retainer for a very very important lord

[fading spade]

https://youtu.be/FW0HIeP-maw

[feral ferry]

Delete the post, trash game

[fading spade]

Prisoner 627... wasnt that Soap's code in the old game?

This isnt a remaster, this is a totally new set of missions and stories, sooo uh hmmm

People saying the guns look like plastic LOL

no shit, the IRL guns are made with plastic

[feral ferry]

Not all of them

Metal is still common, polymers are prefered for weight savings

[fading spade]

yeh but the ones in the starting mission

[orchid prism]

Yeah there's definitely a lot of styles and material finishes.

[feral ferry]

Wood is

[orchid prism]

Some look like steel blocks and welds, some look space sleek and some look like they've been made in a toyshop.

[fading spade]

the term "real steel" is becoming less accurate LOL

[feral ferry]

Also Lana, stop lanaposting

[fading spade]

as more guns are made with polymer

[orchid prism]

Makes sense. If you care more about weight and cost than "muh american gun traditiosjun", then polymer guns are a natural choice.

[fading spade]

itll be the wild west when 3d printed guns finally get reliable xd

Im so confused... does this story follow the previous game campaign?

why is Makarov || in a russian gulag || ? and why || are we rescueing him? ||

[feral ferry]

Didn't you like few minutes ago say

[fading spade]

it seemed that way at the start but idk anymore

[feral ferry]

It's shit, cause they decided to rewrite the story

[fading spade]

its not the same story as the OG MM3

hhmmm

[feral ferry]

Yes, and stop lanaposting

[fading spade]

still dont make sense why americans are rescuing him

or why hes in there to begin with

[fading spade]

literally all the context is there

[feral ferry]

Just stop posting random quotes about a game that got 4/10, nobody cares

[fading spade]

xd

2023 and the environment is not destructible, LAMMMEEEEE

[feral ferry]

CoD was never destructible, stop comparing it to battlefield

Battlefield is a FAR better franchise to CoD

[fading spade]

Yeah but by now it should be

Yeah, BF is way better

needs more campaigns ;-;

[feral ferry]

Battlefield is a multiplayer game at heart in my headcanon

CoD was always singleplayer first

[fading spade]

at least COD still has them, BF is now online multiplayer only :/

[feral ferry]

What happened to Medal of Honour anyways, bring that shit back

https://insider-gaming.com/nintendo-switch-2-denied/

Denied lol

[fading spade]

the player models look worse than Black Ops

[feral ferry]

He seems to deny gamescom rumours which I would agree with him on

Gamescom rumours appeared out of nowhere and we somewhat took them for granted

I mean, good publications reported on them but, they were weird

He doesn't at all disprove SoC rumours being T239 and for double screen all he says is "doesn't mean that if we patent something, we will use it"

[fading spade]

Are the rumours that Switch 2 wont be able to play Switch 1 games accurate???

[feral ferry]

No clue

Some reliable leakers first said that backwards compatibility will exist

[fading spade]

If it shares the same name as the OG Switch, surely it has to...

[feral ferry]

Much later around the time gamescom happened, some random leakers said there isn't any and some publications picked up with that

[fading spade]

all the DS models could play the same games

Wii U could play Wii games

[feral ferry]

I think that SSS will be backwards compatible

Oh and yeah the name is even reported to be wrong lol

Nintendo added "Switch 2" to developers portal

But apparently they will likely call it Super Switch System

Callback to old consoles cause it's to use double screen design, DS, 3DS, etc

[fading spade]

hhmmmm

[feral ferry]

So, Switch 2 (or Super Nintendo System), likely to use T239 SoC with some random 4chan rumours saying Atlan, likely backwards compatible, double screen design

[fading spade]

Double screen will cause issues for emulation, maybe thats why they are doing this XD

[feral ferry]

3DS emulators work fine

[fading spade]

yeh but thats an old ass system and most games dont need both screens shown at once

[feral ferry]

Oh and yeah the double screen design is.. weird as fuck

It's more like.. touchscreen joystick design

[fading spade]

well, MK DS kinda needs both screen to see the map and what items the other racers have

[feral ferry]

So as far as I could understand, the joycons are likely to get axed

[fading spade]

hmmm

or at least make the shitty stick better

[feral ferry]

We talked a lot about the magnetic lock joycon patents, and how Switch 2 would have some new magnetic joycons

[fading spade]

aayy

[feral ferry]

With some sort of new putty design to eliminate drift?

But with newest patents it's possible that they are doing something very different

They effectively are taking the shell of a Nintendo DS

Removing the hinge completely, and making the screens communicate wirelessly

[fading spade]

doubt the screens are going to be that small

[feral ferry]

So you can use the top screen as a "display", and bottom screen as "controls"

[fading spade]

oh, touch controls 🤢 no

[feral ferry]

Cause you can just separate the 2 displays together

Again, that's just based on patents

I still think joycons will prolly exist but not sure how

Maybe they are planning to re-release the NDS with updated hardware lol, hence the patents

[fading spade]

looks horni game

oo

thats cool

IDK how hard it is to coordinate the displays on a DS

or is it simply one display split in half internally?

[tropic vapor]

its 2 displays in most DS models because theres a hinge in the middle

theres only one display in the original soap bar 2ds though and its split internally

[fading spade]

nah I mean in terms of how it renders

[tropic vapor]

but thats the only one where thats the case

[tropic vapor]

it's still 2 entire screens

only one screen can actually run in 3d mode at a time

the other screen has to run in 2d rendering

but some games have managed to trick the DS into running two 3d screens at once by swapping the screen modes mid scanline

[fading spade]

but does the game detect both screens as their own thing or does it detect one screen with the size and resolution of both combined?

[tropic vapor]

again i don't really know but the way the ds was developed each screen is presented seperately

you have to set the render modes for each screen independently

[fading spade]

oohh ok

[tropic vapor]

not 3ds my bad but same idea applies for that given only one screen has 3d mode (the top one)

but it seems in some cases the screens in the original ds are presented as one, as you can switch the render modes in the vblank between the 2 screens for some graphics trickery to get two 3d render modes instead of only one screen being able to show 3d graphics

[fading spade]

🤔 these missions are DIY style, fascinating

[tropic vapor]

they kinda put dual thumbsticks on the New 3DS but honestly calling the C pimple an analog stick is an insult... to analog sticks

the C stick on my New 3DS XL doesnt even work anymore its so far gone from playing smash

basically lol

[hot spire]

Vita is still the best handheld layout

[tropic vapor]

wish they would have just gone with a 2nd circle pad

[hot spire]

Hill I will die on

[tropic vapor]

why have we never seen a rear touch pad on a handheld other than the vita

that was so cool

[hot spire]

Yeah

With modern HD rumble rear touch buttons would work great

[tropic vapor]

imagine the vita layout on a handheld but with L2/R2 and L3/R3

whats even more confusing is the dpad and face buttons on the dualsense are literally molded like the vita buttons

(see through with button legends on the back face)

[hot spire]

Vita should of had pressure sensitive buttons

Most under used PlayStation feature

[fading spade]

the way Graves said that line was ery ominous xd

[hot spire]

No one used it lol

[tropic vapor]

because barely any games actually used it

[hot spire]

L/r 2/3 work fine

No tons used ut

No players used it

[tropic vapor]

no lol i mean on the vita those buttons dont exist

unless you count the rear touch pad emulation of them for remote play

[hot spire]

Yes they're mapped to the rear touchpad

[tropic vapor]

yes i know but only for remote play

[hot spire]

Steering with the pressure sensitive d-pad is better than the analog stick

[tropic vapor]

i would have liked for them to be physical buttons so actual vita games could use them alongside the rear touchpad

[hot spire]

Several games mapped buttons to the rear

[tropic vapor]

oh boy do i have the keyboard for you

[hot spire]

They just didn't call it l/r

[hot spire]

Wooting isn't pressure sensitive

My mouse is pressure sensitive

[tropic vapor]

huh interesting i just was used to games like lbp vita etc using the rear touch pad creatively

guess just as many games used it for buttons kind of like how not many games use the touchpad creatively on the ps4/5 controller

[tropic vapor]

well its close enough to a dpad and has analog capability

but i can see what you mean

[hot spire]

No it isn't, pressure is better for buttons you stay on

It's tactile difference

[tropic vapor]

what exactly makes pressure sensitive different from an analog travel

i never played any games that used pressure sensitive buttons

[hot spire]

With the pressure sensitive you feel the button click and then the pressure sensitivity starts

[tropic vapor]

oh i see

[hot spire]

It has a digital button and pressure

Also the button doesn't move anymore after the tactile

[young hill]

The upper pcb floats

[hot spire]

My mouse is like that too

You get the tactile click, then can push more for the analog

[tropic vapor]

how does a pressure sensitive mouse work

also what mouse even has that as a feature

[hot spire]

Swiftpoint z

[young hill]

Force sensors plus floating pcba + calibration through excel

[hot spire]

My main use in games is pressure on rmb lowers dpi

But productivity is tons of uses

The easiest is I have the 2 back buttons as copy and paste

Hard press on copy cuts

Hard press on paste, dose paste+enter

Light press on my screenshot bottom dose full screen

Hard press dose snipit

Only thing I wish is that it has a ring finger button and pinky support

[young hill]

Someone in the Facebook group said the same recently

[hot spire]

Probably me

Lol

[young hill]

Also another cool thing about the mouse is it has a gyroscope so you can pivot the mouse, but unless one goes into a text editor it needs to be under a mouse button press condition.

[hot spire]

I've never used the gyro

Other than flipping it to turn off input

[young hill]

I used it to add freelock to scum

[hot spire]

I use rudder pedals lol

From arma days

[young hill]

Just move the back of it to left and it starts freelook.

[young hill]

Hmm

[hot spire]

Rudder pedals + track ir

[young hill]

Oh eye tracking?

[hot spire]

Pushing pedals dose the torso lean, toe brakes for head lean

[hot spire]

Trackir is ir

Like a wii

[young hill]

Oh

[hot spire]

It camera on monitor, it LEDs on headset

[young hill]

Oh headset I see

[young hill]

Guessing you use lock out not tilt feet then for your Z

[hot spire]

Yeah

I've tried the tilt on the z and never liked it

[young hill]

Fair enough

To be honest it can be triggered sometimes quite easily

[hot spire]

I also wish there was something like a g13 with analog keys

I use my g13 with arma, the stick is anolog look

So combine with he track ir you get full look angle

[young hill]

I mean the z can do the same with physical movement but it does restrict using the mouse sensor

[hot spire]

Dosent make me motion sick like vr

Yeah but I fly helis with the realistic model

So I use a stick

So I need all my looking to be free of the mouse

I have a x52 so I use the mouse on that for the same as the g13 stick

[feral ferry]

Exactly why I said "Maybe they are planning to re-release the NDS with updated hardware "

[young hill]

Switch with rtx 3090?

[feral ferry]

What are you talking about

[young hill]

Okay fine switch with steam deck gpu

[feral ferry]

What are you talking about

[young hill]

1000w

So it needs and atx battery power psu

[hardy merlin]

I guess 10-20W at most

[feral ferry]

40W boost maybeh

[young hill]

Too much for efficiency

Realistically apple m chip

If that was open would make sense

[feral ferry]

Those are not as low TDP as Apple wants you to believe

[young hill]

Unfortunate but not surprising

[feral ferry]

Switch 2 40W docked boost makes sense

20W normal prolly

[hardy merlin]

Way too much
I might understand with something like Deck clone
But with Nintendo and ARM CPU no way it'll take 40W

[feral ferry]

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/nintendo-denies-briefing-developers-on-switch-2-and-dismisses-multi-screen-patent/

[feral ferry]

It's an Nvidia chip

Tegra T234 is rated for 50W

Nintendo uses customized T239

[hardy merlin]

So what? Switch has also Nvidia chip, Tegra X1 used 30W, but customed for Nintendo uses ~12W, whole system uses 15W

[feral ferry]

15W is way too little imo

40W docked is perfect

[hardy merlin]

Deck uses 9W in lower-end games, 25W at most

[feral ferry]

I might be the only one who doesn't see the point of a handheld Switch lol

[young hill]

Those still exist? I thought tegra is basically like old old. What about the snapdragon chips in vr headsets?

[hardy merlin]

Kinda? I don't see the point in docking Switch when emulators exist

[young hill]

Ah

[feral ferry]

Do they though?

[hardy merlin]

Yah, 10-year contract

[fringe salmon]

tegra and snapdragon are both a chip series not one age old chip

[feral ferry]

That 10 year deal I couldn't find anywhere

We don't know when has that been signed even lol

[hardy merlin]

Wait, why 800p is wrong on a handheld?

[feral ferry]

Seriously can anybody find the 10 year deal lol

Nintendo sticking with Nvidia isn't necessarily a given, they can easily go AMD, or hell, go Qualcomm

[fringe salmon]

and why would they

[young hill]

https://web.archive.org/web/20161020161544/https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2016/10/20/nintendo-switch/

[feral ferry]

Can you show me the 10 year deal?

I've seen that post before, doesn't say anything about a deal

Doesn't say anything about a deal

[young hill]

Ask Jensen then

[feral ferry]

Well stop inventing random facts then

Going Nvidia isn't a given, even if it's likely

I'd argue going Strix Halo would be cooler

[fringe salmon]

lol 0 chance

[hardy merlin]

And why would you want to put such powerful chipset... in a handheld...
But yeah, Nintendo doesn't like x86s

[fringe salmon]

more like why would you put a chip in that would destroy your battery on that handheld size

I dont think arm/x86 has anyhting to do with it

[young hill]

Riscv

[hardy merlin]

Switch 2 is rumored to be backwards compatible with Switch, so ARM

[feral ferry]

Who

[fringe salmon]

translation layers like rosetta could be a thing but yes unlikely

[hardy merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[hardy merlin]

With Nintendo you may be right, they're quite good at this

[feral ferry]

I'd argue Z1 Extreme is as good of a choice to Nvidia's Jetsons

They'd just need to you know, use it

[fringe salmon]

meh Z1s lack low power performance because thats not where they shine

[hardy merlin]

Yeah, and a lot of Nintendo gamers are casual players, who don't really use the whole power of a chip

[fringe salmon]

nintendo certainly could do what MS did and ask for a van gogh like special sku but I don't see why they would

[hardy merlin]

Volvo, not MS

[fringe salmon]

MS

[feral ferry]

I'm pretty sure anyways that Z1E is actually superior technologically to T239 from what we know

[fringe salmon]

volvo picked up what MS discarded

[hardy merlin]

The more you know

[fringe salmon]

its from a scratched surface product they wanted to do

[barren pewter]

FINALLY, A RELEASE DATE…and after exams, fuckin nice

[feral ferry]

T239 supposedly has 8 A78C cores, AMD's are better, supposedly also somewhere 1500 shader units, AMD's Radeon 780M is better, or should be a bit better

Z1E is a better SoC for Nintendo, imo

[fringe salmon]

you would still need a translation layer if backwards compatible is a given from the start

and that eats at performance gains

[hardy merlin]

Those are handhelds, it's not about being the most powerful, it's about finding balance between being powerful and battery life

[feral ferry]

Who tf uses Switch in handheld mode and why

[fringe salmon]

most people?

[feral ferry]

You got a free dock, use it

[hardy merlin]

Majority of Switch users

[fringe salmon]

people actually travel and dont take a 55"tv into their backpack

[hardy merlin]

If people weren't using Switch in handheld mode Switch Lite wouldn't exist

[feral ferry]

Using a cancelled 2023 chip in a 2024 console would be a megabrain move though

#NintendoAtlan

[fringe salmon]

who knows if atlan stric or whatever would even outperform the tegra at the TDP it gets set to

[feral ferry]

No clue who that is, don't care much either

[fringe salmon]

remember how evga dropped nvidia but the ceo still said they respect the company so they wont do gpus with someone else?

[hardy merlin]

So you don't care about the whole philosophy how Nintendo works, kay

[fringe salmon]

thats the mentality here too with nintendo

or similar at least

[feral ferry]

Of a guy that wasn't even the CEO of the company that died 30 years ago?

Very relevant information

[heavy gull]

"Yokoi said "The Nintendo way of adapting technology is not to look for the state of the art but to utilize mature technology that can be mass-produced cheaply."

[feral ferry]

So, common sense

[hardy merlin]

And of a current C-suite, for which he was a mentor who made Nintendo what it is today
Japanese are very conservative people, keep that in mind

[fringe salmon]

you say thats common sense yet you want them to use an SoC that isnt even out yet (halo)

[feral ferry]

Well that was a joke, there's no way they are using that

Halo is a 120W package or something wild like that

Maybe for a Wii reimagining

[fringe salmon]

Z1 is out but a chip being out doesnt mean it's mature already

[hardy merlin]

Z1 is straight up really bad when it comes to low-energy applications
And Nintendo players love casual games

[feral ferry]

So, is Oberon or Scarlett "mature" yet?

The PS5 and XSX chips?

[hardy merlin]

Z1 released in 2023, Oberon in 2020...

[fringe salmon]

again those would need an arm-x8s translation layer

[feral ferry]

Mature doesn't make any sense anyways, chips don't in any way ferment like FineWine™️

[fringe salmon]

yields and production costs

[feral ferry]

For 4nm process?

[fringe salmon]

for whatever chip

[feral ferry]

Isn't 4nm on its 3rd or 4th generation already

[hardy merlin]

Oberon/Scarlett are 7nm...

[feral ferry]

Which is pretty damn mature already

[fringe salmon]

tegra on samsung will be considerably cheaper

[feral ferry]

That does make sense

[hardy merlin]

Yes, meaning production process is improved, which yields better results, and costs are also lower
It's not the same with 4nm Z1/Z1E yet, that's another point why Nintendo using it is a bad idea, when they're surfing on such low margins

[feral ferry]

That will not happen

[feral ferry]

TSMC 4nm is relatively mature already

3rd or 4th generation of the process

[fringe salmon]

what crystal ball are you getting that from

[feral ferry]

Ngl I couldn't tell you, I read that somewhere this morning

[heavy gull]

lol

[hardy merlin]

But 7nm can be made by more semiconductor fabs, which lowers cost even more, and increases availability

[feral ferry]

Good question tbf, tf was I reading this morning

[hardy merlin]

And Nintendo would not want to repeat shortages like Sony did with PS5s...

[feral ferry]

Oh wait wasn't it the MediaTek 9300 announcement post

It was

3rd generation is already getting into pretty good yields and performance maximization afaik

[fringe salmon]

that doesnt mean what you think it does

N4 at first is N5 with some tiny tweaks

then you have N4P which is for a different power target segment

not every node is made for every segment

[hardy merlin]

Imma just wait until Nintendo releases specs, they're pretty good when it comes to hardware, so whatever it may be

[feral ferry]

3rd gen 4nm is basically N4X

And TSMC is already producing 4N which is 4th gen, Ampere node

[fringe salmon]

n4x is HPC node not low power, absolute opposite lol

its N4P tweaked for higher power

also coming out 2024 iirc not even this year

[feral ferry]

Ngl at this point I have no clue what they mean by 3rd gen

N4 is 1st, N4P is prolly 2nd and I guess 4N is 3rd then?

Same node as Ampere then

[fringe salmon]

4n is nvidia only

[feral ferry]

Yep, you're right

Yeah I have no clue what they'll end up manufacturing the Dimensity9300 on then

Prolly N4P eh

[fading spade]

TIL there are Mariokart 8 hacks that can blank out the screens for the other racers in the lobby

[young hill]

Better efficiency and performance if cooled properly than snapdragon though. Camera and audio might still be a downer.

[feral ferry]

Ngl in practice, I have heavy doubts it will be faster

[feral ferry]

https://www.ea.com/en-gb/games/mass-effect/epsilon

The new mass effect game they will finally unveil?

[orchid prism]

That'll be a good laugh.

[deft bloom]

https://richardlewis.substack.com/p/the-end-of-evil-geniuses

lul

[feral ferry]

And nothing of value was lost

[fringe salmon]

yeah the EG shitshow is fun to watch

bit sad how far the mighty fall

[feral ferry]

https://www.gameinformer.com/news/2023/11/07/nintendo-switch-surpasses-132-million-units-sold-alongside-great-tears-of-the

ToTK 19.5 million units sold, pretty dang insane

Pikmin is pretty damn high at 3 million, for a franchise nobody's ever heard of

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/the-first-gameplay-footage-of-hogwarts-legacy-on-switch-has-been-shared/

https://youtu.be/9I5cEDBrdtY

This looks.. not horrible?

[small comet]

for just exploring deffo good perf but fight scenes are the big perf drain

[willow quiver]

i been praying for EGs downfall

[feral ferry]

@barren pewter play cat game https://youtu.be/UwEdnPsV8S0

[barren pewter]

@sharp scarab

:D

two games to play on mac this December

[feral ferry]

Last I heard fym's not a gamer

[barren pewter]

she is

anyway, since we're posting cool things that are ending up on macs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP9x2SC0oPc

[feral ferry]

This? https://jonasz-o.itch.io/fallout2remake3d

Pretty... cool

[barren pewter]

ye

[feral ferry]

Might actually playing Fallout 2 for the first time lol

Don't like the top down ones

[barren pewter]

...you haven't yet?

jeez

[feral ferry]

Too old for my interests

[barren pewter]

welp, tbh it'll be a fun way to revisit it

[feral ferry]

There was a game that I downloaded a while ago to try and get into the old stuff

https://store.steampowered.com/app/875800/Wasteland_Remastered/

Steam

Wasteland Remastered

Originally released in 1988, Wasteland brought the post-apocalypse to video games and inspired a genre. Play one of history’s defining RPGs with completely overhauled graphics, sound, and expanded musical score.The year is 2087, nearly a century after an all-out nuclear war turned vast swaths of the Earth into a radioactive hellscape. You are a ...

Price

$14.99

Recommendations

223

▶ Play video

[barren pewter]

ah, Wasteland

classic

[feral ferry]

I had absolutely no clue wtf I was doing

Uninstalled after 15 mins

[barren pewter]

[feral ferry]

Was a horrible experience

So yeah I'll stick to play Fallout 4 from time to time

Fallout 3 tbf warrants a replay

Been quite a while since I touched 3, I think it's far better than new vegas so, gon replay it

Mod the fuck out of it while at it

[deft bloom]

yeah I liked fo3 a lot more than nv, don't think I ever even finished the latter

[feral ferry]

I think the linear style works better

The whole branching narrative and choices is... eh, very badly executed

Although ngl, in Fallout 3 I'd pick Enclave to support over BoS

Ah yeah I remember now

[nimble current]

wasteland is a bit too archaic even for me

og fallout is cool tho

[feral ferry]

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/corporate/release/en/2023/231108.html

@flat frost

Zelda live action

[severe compass]

Should be animated

[slim token]

https://twitter.com/Minecraft/status/1721924323835887886

this took a while

[deft bloom]

eh the producer and director haven't done anything worthwhile. why do dis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzfXxkHrIBM won't top this

huh I was looking at a smaller list on a different language wiki

blade 1 is good, others on that list I don't care about

sure, guess so

[tall anchor]

I have never completed a zelda game

[deft bloom]

I am eating molasses

the snes version was actually the first zelda I finished

played the nes ones before that, but didn't play to the end

wait I'm thinking of a link to the past nvm

definitely, and it plays pretty well even today

[fringe salmon]

yeah because the costs would go insanely high

he wants people to stream on twitter

[orchid prism]

Can't fuck it up more than Andromeda... then again.

[deft bloom]

it's already fucked, the coat looks extra weird

who's that krogan in the start

[deft bloom]

yep, it's gonna be extra bad

[still spire]

https://vxtwitter.com/romero/status/1721902123364106531?t=UIE8h_A9LXFgFshVp2vzZQ&s=19

[novel umbra]

god the comments

not to mention calling them "american indian", calling them "yaqui" (mexican natives) or "cherokee" (just a collection of some related native tribes) is like calling all americans californians or texans

[tough jay]

His comment makes sense in context:

While cherokee is a collection, in terms of ancestry it can be hard to trace

[novel umbra]

I mean it makes sense for him specifically

but doesn't include other groups

[quiet vault]

why is this game talk

[tough jay]

Look at the name of the person, that's why

[quiet vault]

romero?

[tough jay]

yea

[quiet vault]

no idea who that is

Gta 6 announcement soon tho

according to Bloomberg?

[orchid prism]

Dang kids.

[quiet vault]

some game dev i guess

[quiet vault]

he didn't publish anything noteworthy after my birth so

[orchid prism]

Doom anyone?

[quiet vault]

and tbh i don't know the guys that make the other games i play

[hardy merlin]

Kinda
Leaked by Jason Schreier, but he usually the guy when it comes to game leaks

[feral ferry]

Even I know who Romero is

[quiet vault]

you a senior

[tough jay]

The classy thing to do if you don't know is this: https://lmwtfy.joe.gl/?q=John Romero

[feral ferry]

I'd argue he didn't live up to his early success in later years

John Carmack is a far more interesting personality

[hardy merlin]

Carmack has more interesting contributions to gaming, but Romero has hella personality

[deft bloom]

i prefer Bikemack

[feral ferry]

https://insider-gaming.com/major-silent-hill-the-short-message-plot-details-leak-online/

Even more short message leaks?

Ffs is this thing releasing or not, this thing's existence is an open ended secret

Sakura demo is years old, just release the fucker

[willow quiver]

https://x.com/rockstargames/status/1722237703553798312?s=46

[feral ferry]

Cute

[quiet vault]

less goo

[feral ferry]

Release date is in 2024 anyways

Not that long to wait

[willow quiver]

well for consoles

i doubt its on PC this fast

[hot spire]

Yeah it took 2 years to get to PC for v

[quiet vault]

i got both

no problem

[young crow]

eh i doubt they won't release it on pc too

feels like a thing for microsoft to push them for

[willow quiver]

they wont

RDR2 didnt either

[hot spire]

I mean even after how well GTAv did on PC, rdr2 took a year

[young crow]

was rdr2 released before microsoft decided to release everything on both platforms though?

[hot spire]

Why would that matter

Rockstar is owned by TakeTwo

[young crow]

yes, but microsoft can set conditions

[deft bloom]

cool

[hot spire]

Lmao they would never try something like that with TakeTwo

They aren't some no name publisher

[quiet vault]

playstation exclusive gta 💀

rip xbox

[hot spire]

After beth got baught they are the number 2 publisher

Behind EA

[willow quiver]

its not ps exclusive it will be just console exclusive

[feral ferry]

That wouldn't sell

[willow quiver]

it would sell

but its not going to happen

[feral ferry]

No chance GTA6 isn't coming to PC on launch

[willow quiver]

it will not

[quiet vault]

ye ik

just imagining it tho

i guess they would make Minecraft xbox and pc exclusive then

that would be a real console war

[feral ferry]

Btw

3 million copies sold is best PS5 has done so far

You think GTA6 is going to release exclusively on Sony? No chance

[hot spire]

MS wouldn't try that shit after buying beth though, they are in thin ice

[willow quiver]

its going exclusive on sony and microsoft

[feral ferry]

Not happening

[quiet vault]

no switch version?

[feral ferry]

PC is getting it on launch

[feral ferry]

Switch 2, yes

[quiet vault]

💀

[willow quiver]

not gonna happen

[hot spire]

Doubt

[feral ferry]

100% they will launch it on Switch 2

[hot spire]

They don't want to port to PC, and that's x86

[willow quiver]

considering PC hardware right now and how much they'd have to optimize it, it sounds impossible

[quiet vault]

imagine gta6 and switch 2 releases next year

[hot spire]

Why in the fuck would they want to port to ARM

Second the switch 2 soc barely would do gtav

[feral ferry]

GTA5 only launched on PC in 2015

Since launch it managed to sell only 40 million units on the FAR more sold PS3 and Xbox One

[quiet vault]

did gta online release on launch?

[feral ferry]

I wonder what happened to sales numbers with PC

[feral ferry]

No, that's far later

Also around 2015ish

[quiet vault]

ye that is the important thing probably

[hot spire]

GTA V came to Xbox One and PS4 before PC

[feral ferry]

That's the argument

It didn't sell for shit before it launched on PC

[hot spire]

It launched on PS3 and 360

[feral ferry]

PS3 and 360? Cool, ten or so million copies. PS4 and One boosted it to 40 by 2015

PC launch happened and suddenly you explode to 100 in a few years

[young crow]

i mean, it worked on an xbox 360

[hot spire]

Then explain why Red Dead didn't launch on PC?

[feral ferry]

That is also wrong lol

Switch 2's SoC is somewhat comparable to RTX 2050

[hot spire]

Lol

[feral ferry]

Tell me that isn't going to play GTA V

Lol all you want, what's facts is facts

[hot spire]

Not a chance

[feral ferry]

Well you are wrong

[hot spire]

These switch 2 soc will run a much lower TDP

[quiet vault]

switch 2 will be a iphone with buttons

[feral ferry]

You didn't even look up what RTX 2050 is

[hot spire]

I know what it is

[feral ferry]

It's an ampere mobile chip, TDP is 30W

[hot spire]

Yeah and switch will be well under 30w

[novel umbra]

GT7 should also be on there

[novel umbra]

sold a ton of units in japan due to being bundled

[feral ferry]

You telling me that GTA V is not running on Switch 2 SoC?

You are out of your mind

[hot spire]

What tdp is that?

The entire switch 1 tdp is like 10w

[feral ferry]

And? It's Switch 1

You are moving from Maxwell to Ampere arch

DLSS2 will be a thing

[novel umbra]

gta v already runs better on a steamdeck than it did on the original consoel release

like not even a challenge

[hot spire]

30w TDP is going to have horrible batter life

[novel umbra]

(prob runs better than on the ps4)

so if they cap it to 30 fps handheld

it should be able to run

assuming the new switch will have a somewhat decent soc

[feral ferry]

30W is likely to be boosted in docked mode

15W handheld is likely

[novel umbra]

ye same as what it does now

[hot spire]

Deck is also 15w for the Soc, they whole systems draws 25w

[feral ferry]

15W will still run no problems a game like GTA V

[novel umbra]

deck is 20

[hot spire]

That's way too much for a switch

[novel umbra]

yes

not saying it has the same soc

just as a reference

[feral ferry]

Why are you fascinating about switch 1

It's a completely different device

[novel umbra]

it will also run fine on a steamdeck at a lower tdp

[hot spire]

They're not going to make the new device have a third of the battery life of the old one

That wouldn't compete

[feral ferry]

What

[novel umbra]

wha

[hot spire]

the entire device takes about 25 watts at 15w tdp

[feral ferry]

How is adding like 5W extra going to 60% drop its battery life

[hot spire]

The entire switch takes 11w

[novel umbra]

I personally refuse to install gta v on a steamdeck

but it prob runs fine at 8w lol

[young crow]

why is this still a discussion?

gta 5 ran on a console released in 2005

[novel umbra]

"old" switch just kinda sucks

[small comet]

the difference being its a different gta5

[novel umbra]

hardware wise

[feral ferry]

Cause someone claims that a brand new handheld will not run GTA5 lol

[novel umbra]

btw

steamdeck needs ~15W on the soc

[young crow]

yes, and it would be different for switch as well, who could've thought

[hot spire]

And GTAv was a lot simpler then

[novel umbra]

to run at 720p 60fps very high

aka not what would be on a nintendo console

[small comet]

no as in there was a split between 360/ps3 gta 5 and all other gta5 versions

[novel umbra]

uhhh

don't think so?

[small comet]

to the point they had an import for gta:o from those old versions

[novel umbra]

ah

yea nvm

[small comet]

this was besides just build differences

[novel umbra]

yeye

[hot spire]

360 and PS3 stopped getting updates before the pc release.

[small comet]

yep

[novel umbra]

but considering a steamdeck can run the game at pretty high settings, 720p 60fps at like ~15W

seems like it would run on a possible switch 2

considering how nintendo handles it atm

aka

[hot spire]

Soc == device power

[novel umbra]

guh

switch soc atm

is 15W

in docked mode

nintendo just kneecaps it in handheld

aka just cap to 30fps

don't run it at high settings

[small comet]

im mostly impressed how well harry plotter runs on it from the 1 video ive seen

[hot spire]

Are you talking soc or device for the deck?

[novel umbra]

soc

[hot spire]

There is no soc measurements for the switch

It's all device power

Deck uses 10w for the rest of the device

[novel umbra]

aka

[hot spire]

So that's 25w vs 15w

[novel umbra]

run it at lower settings

[hot spire]

Bring the switch power up to deck would be 66% increase

[novel umbra]

ffs

no point in continue to talking to you

setting options is not a thing apparently

[hot spire]

I'm saying the new soc will be no where near that for power draw

Even going to 25w total is a massive increase in power

Which means the device has to be bigger and heavier

Because it needs more cooling and more battery

[feral ferry]

You can also OC it with homebrew

To more than that

[quiet vault]

i heard they are using a full desktop chip with integrated graphics on the switch 2

[hot spire]

The shield TV with the same SOC as the switch is a 25w total, shows how far they downclocked the switch

[feral ferry]

https://github.com/retronx-team/sys-clk

You can boost the Switch 1 quite a bit

CPU from 1.02GHz to 1.785

GPU 768 to 921

Gimped hardware

[hot spire]

Exactly, for power and thermal reasons

[feral ferry]

It runs fine while OC'd though

[small comet]

most improvements come from mem clk though not cpu or gpu per se

[feral ferry]

https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-2019-switch-overclocking-analysis

Temps aren't really an issue either

[hot spire]

The Orio NX the Soc is based off is a 25w system

Also the 2050 is 2048 cores, the leaks say 1280 for switch 2

[feral ferry]

Uh no

1520 or something like that

[hot spire]

Still

That would be 25% less cores

[feral ferry]

That will play GTA V no problem

Whatever you try to say

1536 is the spec

Huh, DF says it's a quadcore, swear it was an octo

Quad A78C's isn't bad though

[hot spire]

Also 2080 boosts to 1250, the big bow orion agx boosts to 930 at 40w

That's 1700 cores though

So even 1500 cores is going to take 30-35w to makes 900s

The NX dose 1000 cores at 900mhz at 25w

So it's going to be way lower clocks

[feral ferry]

Clocks aren't as important here as arch improvements

Also DLSS

Which Nintendo will definitely use

[hot spire]

Apples to apples I'm comparing to your 2050 comparison

[feral ferry]

Better node process as well

[hot spire]

Orion is on 8nm

[feral ferry]

You said 2080

Not sure why are we talking about 2080s now

[hot spire]

I ment 2050

2050 is 2048 cores boosting to 1250mhz

[feral ferry]

Says 1477 in notebookcheck

[hot spire]

Orion NX is 1024 cores boosting to 918mhz with 25w

[hot spire]

I'm on tpu

Nvidia says boost is 1155 to 1477

Depending on tdp

30-45w

The Orion AGX is 1792 cores boosting to 930 at 40w

The 2048 core AGX has 12c CPU and is 1300mhz boost at 60w

So that 30w GPU fits in a 60w soc

Plus 5-10w of system usage

Now do you see why comparing a 2050 fps isn't useful?

No one is making a 70w handheld

It will be 1/3 that tdp or less

[feral ferry]

I have no clue what calculations you just did and how that proves anything ngl

Jetson AGX Orin is 1792 GPU cores with 8 ARM CPU cores, at 930Mhz, 15W - 40W TDP

2050 is 2048 cores at 30-45W TDP, 1477 boost supposedly

That is not that different

[fringe salmon]

If your 2050 somehow has a cpu in it sure

[feral ferry]

Well yes you just halve the CPU cores and add extra MHz to the GPU

Switch doesn't really need an octa core don't think

[hot spire]

The big AGX is 2048 gpu cores at 1300mhz and 60w

So it's a 2050 GPU in a apu

It has 12 cou cores though

[feral ferry]

Big AGX is also 15W - 60W

So you can compress it down to 15W handheld

[hot spire]

Yes and boosting to 1300mhz to compare to a 2050 is at the 60w

15w is standby

So a few 100mhz

[feral ferry]

It also had 64 gigs of LPDDR5, 12 ARM cores with hyperthreading, etc

Like, remove 8 cores of A78AE, replace them with A78C

You can easily achieve good GPU performance with that

[hot spire]

Yes the NX is closer to switch 2, but it has 1024 cores at 920mhz for 25w

Which is still way to much power

[feral ferry]

25w is perfectly okay for a handheld?

[hardy merlin]

Oh, this again?

[hot spire]

Yeah if it has no screen no wi-fi no controller

Add another 5 to 10w for total power

[fringe salmon]

Also even Nintendo isn’t going to handicap itself with only 4 cpu cores for another decade

[hot spire]

Maybe they can actually get in a really fancy feature like voice chat

[feral ferry]

Tbf octa-cores are kinda standard nowadays

[proper basin]

Froggy simulator: eat bug, leap on lily pad, ribbit

competitive bug eating

[quiet vault]

i love how cheap forzas micro transactions are

[hardy merlin]

What Forza's microtransactions? Just buy Ultimate and you're good to go

[quiet vault]

no

the car packs

[hardy merlin]

Not all car packs are included now?

[quiet vault]

ye

they kinda spamming them now

but super cheap

[hardy merlin]

Eh, as long as there is no Forzacoins or some stuff like that I'm fine

[quiet vault]

ye

its like 1car for 1€

compare that to some skin prices

[feral ferry]

Yes you are late, vibe

[heavy gull]

😎

[feral ferry]

And prolly not the last one to be late

[quiet vault]

omg???

[heavy gull]

Safe bet

[quiet vault]

finally

[feral ferry]

Motherfucker you literally reacted to the post hours earlier

Don't act surprised, you have seen that already

[quiet vault]

i just wanna be nice

[feral ferry]

Emotional support for the shameful?

[quiet vault]

gotta appreciate the effort of sharing the news with us

[feral ferry]

Good samaritan

[heavy gull]

Haha i appreciate it

[quiet vault]

No problem 😄

[nimble current]

not this again

people need to fuck off with the fake rumors already

[heavy gull]

This was from the official rockstar twitter account

[feral ferry]

It's not fake you lil shit

[nimble current]

nuh uh

you guys lying

[quiet vault]

https://twitter.com/RockstarGames/status/1722237703553798312?t=a-dOfJIrvgPBBqi_GEC4pw&s=19

[feral ferry]

Can you just fuckin edit your link to include VX before twitter

@quiet vault

[quiet vault]

no

[feral ferry]

VXtwitter

https://vxtwitter.com/RockstarGames/status/1722237703553798312

[nimble current]

its going to be GTAV definitive edition for upcoming consoles

[heavy gull]

My link shows x.com lol. I’m on phone though

[nimble current]

[quiet vault]

opening twitter and seeing the numbers is more proof

it only says 435 hearts on that thing

[barren pewter]

Holy shit

I need to buy some Take2 stock

[still spire]

https://twitter.com/thexpaw/status/1722176195603689860

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-ZmGvrXoAA-g5R?format=jpg&name=medium Steams porn sales gonna skyrocket

[feral ferry]

What

[trim rock]

Oh!

[feral ferry]

https://vxtwitter.com/andy_vgc/status/1722273836715094366

https://insider-gaming.com/microsoft-and-epic-games-named-in-lawsuit-for-causing-video-game-addiction/

[still spire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/778887485400154132/1171842954298667008/image.png?ex=655e26cc&is=654bb1cc&hm=f545f91c63b7f856f6821c392a03b5e429772150b09f0e7f4a52b8bd73855347&

RE8

[feral ferry]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2375550/Like_a_Dragon_Gaiden_The_Man_Who_Erased_His_Name/

Steam

Like a Dragon Gaiden: The Man Who Erased His Name

DIE DELUXE EDITION ENTHÄLT:Like a Dragon Gaiden: The Man Who Erased His Name"Legendärer Kämpfer"-PaketDraußen in der Bucht und vor den neugierigen Blicken der Öffentlichkeit geschützt, liegt ein mysteriöses Containerschiff, das als "Die Burg" bekannt ist. Im Inneren des Schiffs verbirgt sich das Kolosseum, in dessen Kampfarena nun drei legendäre...

Price

$49.99

▶ Play video

The game is out

[still spire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/778887485400154132/1171845049114427402/image.png?ex=655e28bf&is=654bb3bf&hm=5758d05e0023425b88fc03547971d389fb0e4eb025f834eaab9f5f0677ffcadd&

[quiet vault]

i can finally buy the games i really wanna play

what

[feral ferry]

What's what

[novel umbra]

Will still show up in purchases tho?

Like in the activity feed

I have weird friends that look in it all the time

[nimble current]

not so embracing anymore huh

[feral ferry]

https://vxtwitter.com/EliasToufexis/status/1722060115506024775

Interesting

So Starfield's MC was voiced but later they were like nah

And gave the VA's different roles

[trim rock]

I mean ||player char does talk with a voice right at the end||

[feral ferry]

They do

Not many lines though

[silent river]

imagine the gta 6 trailer

hopefully they release it to pc at launch.

[quiet vault]

https://hard-drive.net/hd/video-games/ea-scientists-announce-groundbreaking-discovery-of-nanotransactions/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Repost

[tropic vapor]

that satire article is funny tbh

[azure cliff]

This game was so good man

[nimble current]

I imagine its going to be largely the same game we've gotten since 2001 with some freshed up visuals and new missions

[feral ferry]

Who is this

[orchid prism]

https://tenor.com/view/who-gif-4519872

[vapid lintel]

It's a whole thing

From Glory

You do the math

[feral ferry]

Eehh, not heard of this

https://youtu.be/zrTv9jjf3zI

[vapid lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/over-my-head-no-nope-gif-7356334

[feral ferry]

I might have seen this in a State of Play but definitely hadn't been following this title

I definitely know who Holowka is and I severely doubt that the accusations have any basis

Considering who the accuser is

I have nothing against women, I have tons of issues with Zoe Quinn

Specifically when the likely circumstance is that she completely lied about Holowka cause they had disagreements, which resulted in the guy sepukkuing

[quiet vault]

i just drive around the map and customize my cars

rest is idk not so enjoyable

huh

super stable game in my experience

u mean normal steering?

[nimble current]

same, the cars handle like dogshit though

its just really boring to drive the cars in forza

[quiet vault]

the name unbeatable is weird

u either just overtake everyone at start

or you get third place max

orrrr there is a highspeed straight where you also just overtake everything

[feral ferry]

Ubisoft Quebec is safe then?

That's all that matters

Well Montreal is their by far biggest studio

They have like 4-5 titles being developed just in that location alone

Thousands of employees probably

Ah yeah it said so, 4,000 in 2021

[nimble current]

just shows how deeply delusional all these ceos with infinite growth dreams are

[feral ferry]

Does anyone even buy into Ubisoft anymore lel

I want to see Assassin's Creed Mirage sales numbers, wonder if it even sold a million

[fringe salmon]

avatar game is selling a ton if it's not a launch disaster

[feral ferry]

Avatar will prolly sell just cause it's really unique, and a well known franchise

AC been on a downward slope afaik though

[orchid prism]

From what I've seen it's basically GTA with an Avatar skin.

Which... sounds potentially popular?

[fringe salmon]

as long as it runs fine ti will sell a lot just on the IP

[orchid prism]

Though... is that enough to carry an IP that isn't a national treasure (yet?).

I barely remember the first one, and haven't seen the second one.

[feral ferry]

Oh they got us good

[orchid prism]

Suuuuuuuuuure

[feral ferry]

Still no GTA6

[orchid prism]

https://tenor.com/view/totally-crush-nemo-turtle-finding-nemo-gif-5511392

Every time a company does this shit, it needs to be reported to the police to ensure it's not just a poor marketing scheme.

[feral ferry]

https://bethesda.net/en/article/6BV2LYrp98qW4F15zfejEA/starfield-beta-update-1-8-83-notes-november-8-2023

Nvidia DLSS Support eh

[fringe salmon]

the image by vex is fake

[heavy gull]

i just checked the twitter page i cant find that post

[feral ferry]

You got le bamboozled

[quiet vault]

vex is such a little troll

[heavy gull]

loll

[barren pewter]

vexxsie is such a devious little cutiepie

[feral ferry]

Thank god it's not cream

[quiet vault]

4k 120 hdr on xbox when

[barren pewter]

cream filled

[feral ferry]

Literally who?

[quiet vault]

i need it

[feral ferry]

Wait wait wait https://vxtwitter.com/Dexerto/status/1722297937072415209/photo/1

This literally has to be fake gambling

Which is illegal

V is a wee slow

[tropic vapor]

they didnt get hacked its a fake tweet

[tropic vapor]

its still a scourge running rampant through twitch

[feral ferry]

Well this is Kick

Which is far worse

[tropic vapor]

yeah its probably an infestation on kick

[feral ferry]

I mean, don't you know Kick is owned by gambling people?

It's in the contract to gamble if you are exclusively on Kick

[tropic vapor]

is this bait

[feral ferry]

This is so bad though cause 3 billion there is no way xQc owns that much, he literally has to be running promo for Stake where they just reimburse every penny he spent on the website

[tropic vapor]

anyhow lots of shady offshore gambling companies that refuse to abide by gambling regulations set up streamers with subsidized accounts with odds rigged in their favor to trick kids / vulnerable gambling addicts into gambling on their sites

most of those gambling sites wont even abide by the laws in your country that allow you to ban yourself from casinos

[feral ferry]

Promoting gambling with fake gambling is literally illegal, I hope somebody sues Stake and xQc for that

[tropic vapor]

yes it is illegal but the companies running said gambling sites wont get in trouble because theyre all based in offshore areas where that isnt illegal

streamers probably can get in trouble though but theyre being used as fall guys for the websites and the sites can just hire another one

[barren pewter]

SUE THE FILTHY QUEBECER

[orchid prism]

Death by poutine.

[barren pewter]

ew…

[orchid prism]

It's supposed to be a punishment.

[barren pewter]

the nasty frenchies might be into that though

That’s the problem

[orchid prism]

[barren pewter]

They’re freaks

Animals that need to be put down

[tropic vapor]

don't ever call gambling "gaming", calling it "gaming" was an idea created by the gambling industry to make them sound more innocuous

eh though we should change the topic

i feel like this might get heated if we continue

[barren pewter]

tbh, I love gambling as much as the next person

but I hate it being so accessible

[orchid prism]

Mr. Money Plane right here.

[tropic vapor]

im gonna admit the main problem i have with the gambling sites you see streamers constantly promote is they're all designed to skirt actual gambling regulations designed to ensure a decent amount of fairness and the ability for gambling addicts to ban themselves from gambling

[tough jay]

Gambling is disgusting, and I really don't like it that the company I work at has gotten into a project making content farms to generate leads for gambling sites.

[tropic vapor]

i personally dont like gambling as a whole but if it exists it should at least follow the laws set out for it

[tough jay]

I mean a small wager I can understand but the whole industry is disgusting.

[quiet vault]

Gambling was literally created to make everyone a millionaire

[barren pewter]

I find a game of blackjack quite fun, but I don’t make a habit of playing it every Friday

[quiet vault]

the house always loses so be thankful they run their business at a loss for you

[tropic vapor]

even then not all those gambling websites are linked to video games like cs2, some of them are just straight up casinos

[tropic vapor]

by fairness i dont mean the house losing i mean the house not being able to set literally impossible or near-impossible odds

[quiet vault]

but it does

Do you know why casinos dont have windows?

and no clocks

[tropic vapor]

to stop you from leaving and making you spend more time than you need to

[quiet vault]

No

Because they cant afford them

so gamble more

[tropic vapor]

ok this is just purely bait/sarcasm now lol

[fading spade]

Are Sony going to sell both models of the PS5 now? the OG and new "slim" model

I heard people say they will eventually only sell the slim one

[quiet vault]

it never was something else haha

[tropic vapor]

i know but at that point pretty much all ambiguity was removed