Lmao
#š®āgame
unborn spruce
Mhmm.
Itās heavy, cumbersome, has eh ergonomics, the hardware is slow, and it runs hot.
I wasnāt impressed then and Iām still not impressed now. Never mind the piss poor NVMe SSD.
hardy merlin
Ayo?
Deck is way more comfortable to hold than Ally
unborn spruce
Ally can fuck off as well.
Legion is where itās at.
Honestly at this stage if itās not using HE sticks it can eat a dick.
Thatās my minimum bar for what counts as a successful controller layout. Iāve used a Wooting Two, Iām not going back to primitive technology. >:(
And given the Legion is just an Ally but cheaper but it does everything better but has better technology? Thatās what impresses me now. All of the other trash fluttering in the digital wind can go fall into brutal obscurity where they belong now.
fallow bronze
HE sticks and key keys are something quite different O_o
unborn spruce
Yes they are, but they have much faster feel and donāt drift.
nimble current
or wear out like potentiometers
unborn spruce
Sure they can theoretically wear out, but fortunately they arenāt really susceptible to getting fucked in a few months if theyāre decently built.
novel umbra
unborn spruce
Stick drift after 4 months is not acceptable. Nintendo.
novel umbra
I don't think HE sticks really wear out
nimble current
either the spring would have to wear out or the magnet in HE sticks case
novel umbra
springs don't really wear
nimble current
and both are kinda unlikely to happen within reasonable timeframes
or with normal use
unborn spruce
I mean if youāre a turbo goober maybe you break it somehow.
But still. Long life.
novel umbra
there is just no excuse for non HE sticks imo
NOVA WGP14
that thing is stupid cheap
and has HE sticks
unborn spruce
Yep.
nimble current
Stick drift after 4 months is not acceptable. **Nintendo.**
stick drift after 2-3 years shouldn't really be a thing either, but it seems this is where we're at with consumer products these days
manufacturers don't count on their stuff to last more than a few years until the next hot thing comes out and people hopefully forget about the previous one
hardy merlin
I may agree on HE sticks, but you can get them for Deck too
But for handheld to be as performant as possible? Heck no
It'll run hot, it'll be loud and heavy
For newer titles I have PC
But for Stardew Valley or Bomb Rush Cyberfunk playing in bed is best
Plus Deck has best support as for handhelds go
Since Windows on handhelds is still a pain to use -.-
unborn spruce
Like there isnāt an excuse. If anything comes out without HE sticks then I just write it off as DOA because that really shows a lack of fucks theyāve given and frankly Iām not buying something shat out by the corporate anus that canāt be fucked spending $2 instead of $1.
There are goddamn limits.
barren pewter
Like there isnāt an excuse. If anything comes out without HE sticks then I just ...
Especially when itās something you could use to justify slapping an additional ten bucks on the price of the finished good
novel umbra
Like there isnāt an excuse. If anything comes out without HE sticks then I just ...
or at least having replaceable sticks
at all
so you don't have to buy new 70 buck joycons
unborn spruce
I may agree on HE sticks, but you can get them for Deck too
But for handheld to ...
Yeah no sorry but modding the thing into a pre-existing corporate shart is not a reasonable excuse. If I have to fix your fuckup myself then youāve shipped me a faulty piece of shit.
novel umbra
to not wait on support for 2 months
barren pewter
Especially when itās something you could use to justify slapping an additional t...
But hey, selling a controller thatāll last two years, every two years
Is more profitable than making a really solid controller that should last five at least
hardy merlin
Yeah no sorry but modding the thing into a pre-existing corporate shart is not a...
Eh, I have mine for over half a year, still not even a sign of drifting
unborn spruce
And cool youāre lucky. That doesnāt explain why we didnāt get a 2280 SSD.
Again, corporate shart. I am not impressed.
hardy merlin
I mean... You can fit 2280 into Deck... It'd cover vents, but it fits
novel umbra
could they?
unborn spruce
Yes.
novel umbra
like just assuming the main PCB might get used in deckard
unborn spruce
Like we already have consoles thatāre smaller, more powerful, and use a 2280. Whereās the excuse?
unborn spruce
Aya Neo or whatever itās called.
Their top shelf has a 2280 and higher internal spec.
hardy merlin
could they?
novel umbra
they had mutliple of those
small comet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NQLJ6Yp_C0 why does this ring so true for so many RPGs
novel umbra
are the temps okay, cause I know some of theirs had issues with that lol
unborn spruce
Yes. Theyāre fine.
unborn spruce
The problem with it is they tried using too powerful shit and it doesnāt work with the battery and GPU.
unborn spruce
BUT HEY! If they can use drastically overpowered shit in that and still fit a 2280? I am not impressed with Valve.
novel umbra
what is so bad about a 2230
unborn spruce
If youāre already making something then you make it well, regardless of the people who might or might not use it.
Thatās called having self respect.
Truly an unknown notion in the modern world. -_-
hardy merlin
I mean
A lot of netbooks also use 2230...
novel umbra
dunno how the size of the ayaneo pcb compares to the steamdeck
- dunno battery runtime
or if cooling is right
unborn spruce
I mean
A lot of netbooks also use 2230...
And am I supposed to be less disappointed in trash by you bringing up more trash?
novel umbra
just because someone did it doesn't mean they did it well
hardy merlin
Also 2280 is often more power hungry than 2230
novel umbra
good thermal design
unborn spruce
Mm thatās true, however there are more efficient drives than ever so Iām honestly gonna say the difference is not that dramatic. Regardless if you design something and artificially limit it? Bad move.
unborn spruce
good thermal design
Which model specifically?
unborn spruce
Bruh making me go to their website. I donāt even remember the full stack.
Yeah nah I canāt remember which model this was off by name. Only it was a top shelf thing from aroundish a year and a half ago.
autumn depot
AC mirage releasing tomorrow
hardy merlin
AC mirage releasing tomorrow
š
orchid prism
If only there was a simple solution for such troubles
Yes, waiting.
hardy merlin
Nooooooo
It's heavy and I don't want to have my games spread all over the place
I have Steam and GOG account, that's enough...
feral ferry
GOG 2.0 was meant to be the savior
Where everyone uses GOG for everything
And it's dead 
unborn spruce
I still use it. Works really nicely.
hardy merlin
I mean I use Heroic because, well, Linux
But other than that it's just more convenient to download from their website and have install files on hand
GOG Galaxy is also heavy AF
unborn spruce
I mean tbh the real best place to go is into the international waters.
Forā¦ fishing.
bleak pike
Gog 2.0 is great
static island
thats a thing?
bleak pike
I just wish it allowed two accounts logged in
static island
oh thats cool
static island
I just wish it allowed two accounts logged in
that'd be even better
orchid prism
It's a game launcher, not a lifestyle.
You'll survive having another game launcher you see for a few seconds when starting up a game.
novel umbra
Yeah nah I canāt remember which model this was off by name. Only it was a top sh...
the one with the full glass front
hardy merlin
It's another launcher on top
With Steam I have launch it, press play, it works
For uplay I have to run Steam, run uplay with Steam, run game and login before playing because for some reason it want password everytime I start game
Plus with Steam or GOG if they turn off servers or get banned you can still download your games
Not so much so with UPlay or Epic...
unborn spruce
You'll survive having another game launcher you see for a few seconds when start...
Might be worth doing if Uplay had anything good.
unborn spruce
this thing
Mmmm. Yeah I remember this one having thermal issues.
What with trying to put desktop components into it. Nah lads.
novel umbra
not a desktop chip
bleak pike
You'll survive having another game launcher you see for a few seconds when start...
It annoyed me when I was playing fc6
orchid prism
Might be worth doing if Uplay had anything good.
That is such a non argument. This whole discussion started over disappointment that an exciting game was limited to uplay.
unborn spruce
That is such a non argument. This whole discussion started over disappointment t...
We were talking about AC were we not?
Like assassins creed?
orchid prism
It's another launcher on top
With Steam I have launch it, press play, it works
F...
All of those platforms have the exact same issues with download and account retention.
You get banned, You lose download access.
They stop a service? You lose download access.
unborn spruce
You get banned, You lose download access.
They stop a service? You lose downloa...
Banned from Uplay?!
orchid prism
novel umbra
I'd be more concerned about uplay stopping services than steam stopping services
bleak pike
Ye
bleak pike
I don't think it will be
novel umbra
we'll see
bleak pike
Been trying it on and off and its just weird
unborn spruce
Itāll be DOA.
novel umbra
like if that isn't doing that well
and the next AC is as well
they might be in a very bad situation
bleak pike
AC always does well.
novel umbra
AC always does well.
not always
unborn spruce
Launching on purely Uplay, thatās a death sentence for a game. The only reason Assassins Creed gets a pass is because itās AC. Shit game and all but itās got history behind it.
bleak pike
Which one did bad?
novel umbra
unity or the one in england
unborn spruce
All them past 4.
bleak pike
I liked unity š¦
unborn spruce
Like they should have done noticeably better.
novel umbra
yea had a problematic launch
bleak pike
Oh ye haha
novel umbra
Like they should have done noticeably better.
not sure if riddling them with mtx helped or not
but idk
kinda their issue
orchid prism
Death sentence, yet they're still going strong years later.
Your bias is showing (and lack of data)
hardy merlin
You get banned, You lose download access.
They stop a service? You lose downloa...
Nah - you can still play offline after getting banned on Steam. Valve also talked on how they'd remove their DRM to allow for backup of owned games some time before the end, should they turn off their services, they allegedly have procedures in place for that
On GOG it's easier - just download offline installer and you're good to go.
bleak pike
syndicate?
Ye
unborn spruce
Their issue is they donāt make anything out of passion anymore. Last time we had a Ubisoft game that really pushed itself and took risks was back in the 360/One days.
bleak pike
Where you could switch characters
novel umbra
Death sentence, yet they're still going strong years later.
Your bias is showin...
not saying death sentence
orchid prism
Nah - you can still play offline after getting banned on Steam. Valve also talke...
No you can't. I'm not talking about a VAT ban. If they shadow realm your accounts it's all gone.
novel umbra
but the last yearly roundup basically had only 2 games doing well
which was AC doing very well
unborn spruce
Death sentence, yet they're still going strong years later.
Your bias is showin...
Bad take. You can survive on a group of diehards for decades, but you canāt thrive on them. Ubisoft doesnāt thrive anymore.
bleak pike
I genuinely enjoyed the whole two characters situation
novel umbra
and rainbow 6 siege doing pretty good
bleak pike
And seeing the other character I'm the streets
orchid prism
Bad take. You can survive on a group of diehards for decades, but you canāt thri...
Bad take. Having a downturn is not the same as dying.
novel umbra
the downturn is not really a new thing for them
bleak pike
They have um
novel umbra
I mean bethesda was in the same situation pre ms merger
unborn spruce
When the company culture is take 0 risks at any cost and this has been going on for 10 years then yes itās a corpse that doesnāt know itās a corpse yet.
novel umbra
they themselves said that 1-2 flops are not survivable in the AAA world
orchid prism
I genuinely enjoyed the whole two characters situation
Want to play make believe Vikings with zero history accuracy and maximum gender identity confusion?
Play AC Vikingtime
bleak pike
I didn't like ac much past black flag
novel umbra
game seems to have everything it needs to be popular so far
maybe they won't screw this one up
skulls and bones is like omega dead at this point
bleak pike
And I really didn't like anything modern
novel umbra
not as bad as some of their other in development titles
unborn spruce
skulls and bones is like omega dead at this point
Frfr
novel umbra
but it has been delayed to shit
orchid prism
Black Flag was great, once you ignored the AC aspect.
AC as a universe stopped being interesting after they jumped, skinned and wore the Shark in the 2nd and 3rd game.
novel umbra
Frfr
I would honestly be surprised if they can still say it did well financially at the end
bleak pike
I really disliked when everything became not so assasin
nimble current
but it has been delayed to shit
and will probably still launch in a buggy mess of a state, if it ever does that is
bleak pike
Even in black flag there was a lot of assassin shit
unborn spruce
Bro please. Theyād have killed it long ago if they didnāt legally have to make it now.
novel umbra
I really disliked when everything became not so assasin
the ones that were less assassin did better though
novel umbra
Bro please. Theyād have killed it long ago if they didnāt legally have to make i...
wdym
they recently confirmed beyond good and evil 2 is still in production
I doubt they would legally have to make that
and AC is a very large money machine for them
unborn spruce
They signed a deal with an actual country for it. If they pull out they donāt do contract and maybe get fucked. Iāll have to go dig you up the news.
Itās funny as fuck.
bleak pike
the ones that were less assassin did better though
I mean sure but they are essentially different games on their own.
novel umbra
wait
novel umbra
They signed a deal with an actual country for it. If they pull out they donāt do...
which one
unborn spruce
Lemme go find you the details.
bleak pike
Basically
bleak pike
They are obligated
novel umbra
2 year old article š
unborn spruce
YEP! 
bleak pike
I'm very curious
novel umbra
AAA production is so fucking expensive nowadays
bleak pike
True
unborn spruce
Iām pretty sure Skull and Bones is going to break the record for longest development hell.
orchid prism
has been 10 years in devlopment then
I can't wait for it to become the new Cyberpunk launch.
unborn spruce
Though ngl I have zero idea why anyone stays in that project.
orchid prism
novel umbra
novel umbra
Though ngl I have zero idea why anyone stays in that project.
idk from what I heard ubisoft can be a fairly toxic company
at least in some studios
novel umbra
so 5 years
bleak pike
Kept losing staff, the project kept being rebooted, there was a lot of toxicity with the head of story etc
unborn spruce
idk from what I heard ubisoft can be a fairly toxic company
Yep. Those are confirmed.
Abusive workplace.
unborn spruce
Another failure AC launch
Wow who fucking knew. Predictably Ubisoft canāt launch a videogame without it being fucked.
novel umbra
eh
kinda a AAA issue as well
since it is so expensive they won't wanna pay for the time to polish
unborn spruce
Ok but textures like that arenāt a big one.
unborn spruce
I understand if weāre talking likeā¦ niche weird bugs, but blatant immediately broken stuff like that no QA team is going to miss? Cāmon.
unborn spruce
Decade of the indie studios, fr.
novel umbra
Decade of the indie studios, fr.
cruelty squads armor system was entirely unfunctional and nobody noticed over a year after release until the dev said he fixed it
unborn spruce
novel umbra
especially funny if you consider how restricting the highest tier armors in that game are
you get the pick of "you can't see jack shit" and "you can't see that much and only melee"
feral ferry
Oh they actually said why cancel it
novel umbra
and would need a major redesign
feral ferry
" Cancelation of titles under development
In response to the lower profitability of the European region, we have reviewed the title portfolio of each development base in Europe and the resulting action will be to cancel āHYENASā and some unannounced titles under development. Accordingly, we will implement a write-down of work-in-progress for titles under development."
So, it's a major budget game
That nobody knew about
orchid prism
Even better question - Why on earth would you try and release yet another shooter like this in a market already struggling.
novel umbra
Even better question - Why on earth would you try and release yet another shoote...
sega wanted a piece of the shooter gaas pie
so good
feral ferry
https://www.techpowerup.com/314351/frostpunk-2-the-city-must-not-fall-first-screenshots-released This looks weirdly good
Could be a lot better than the original
small comet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjjoYL7n7lA funny video with good auto translate CC
orchid wolf
has anyone managed to get analog walking/driving working for cyberpunk
novel umbra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjjoYL7n7lA funny video with good auto translate...
he got so angry about them just killing of the game while he was making the vid 
novel umbra
lol
tough jay
I got as far as the tutorial in the second beta, game was not terrible, zero g seemed well executed but the concept was flawed from the start, made by a studio with 0 experience making multiplayer titles.
It really should have been canned years ago.
small comet
made by a studio with 0 shooter experience
tough jay
Was the Studio behind Alien Isolation
small comet
i wouldnt call that shooter
tough jay
While true, I feel the complete lack of experience making multiplayer games like this is more important here, before alien isolation they had also 0 experience in the genre.
novel umbra
i wouldnt call that shooter
at least not something remotely close to a comp shooter
small comet
the main reason it flopped is just that the concept was flawed even if they made a good multiplayer shooter as a base
tough jay
From what I heard / read the biggest problem is CA management + Sega-Sammy being almost completely hands-off
novel umbra
idk I feel like they just tried to combine so many things without much substance
feels very much like a stupid c-level decision
tough jay
Sega was at fault for uncritically signing off on the mess. and the CA management that steered towards this has 0 business running a game studio like that.
But honestly failed projects exist everywhere but this is probably one of the dumbest failures, most people working on it knew it was going to fail, noone wanted it and yet they pushed on just before launch.
At least CA's next failure, Total War Pharaoh will be less costly, but I am pretty certain it is going to be failure.
still spire
orchid prism
I didn't. Too linear.
fallow bronze
Banished was.. Very short imho
feral ferry
Eyyyy
Oct 31st hey
I have very little faith for this thing's success
Wait what
So, it's apparently completely free
Free of charge
feral ferry
And you can pay for a subscription to unlock emoticons in the game chat?
How are they planning to enlist 4 big companies, one being a J.J Abrams company
And license out a Silent Hill IP to make a.. live action free to watch series?
This will be full of ads it feels like
This.. wasn't in the youtube mob votes that were posted here?
So they are adding wolf armour
Finally, the wolves won't be useless since they were added 10+ years ago
barren pewter
smh wolves donāt even drop meat like what is the point lol
vapid lintel
They are the goodest bois
feral ferry
They are the goodest bois
Yeah.. so is your mother 
static island
has anyone here played quantum break
is it a good game? -75% on steam
costing less than a bowl of aƧaĆ
slim token
it's a 7/10
static island
š¤ sounds playable if gameplay isn't boring
slim token
the ok story is somewhat hindered by the gameplay
static island
ok im skipping
slim token
you're better off watching a playthrough on yt
static island
yeah
would rather play Apotheon for the 4th time
oh wow hero siege is getting f'd on recent reviews
barren pewter
Diablo 4 not getting a native mac port
smh
honestly most AAA games now just not getting mac ports...
why?
this is capable hardware
that kind of FPS
on the current gen's lowest power PC chip
through two emulation layers
imagine not needing those emulation layers and nasty overhead š
ebon osprey
because its neither popular nor the same architecture as the consoles these games were designed for
barren pewter
it's a chicken and egg problem
shortage of decent mac ports means no peeps gaming on macs
which means a shortage of good ports, because there's no market
I kinda wish apple threw more money at this kinda stuff to generate a market
ebon osprey
first they need computers that actually are fast for half their current prices
barren pewter
they've proven that their phones are capable of playing the latest and greatest AAA titles
ebon osprey
eh
barren pewter
you don't seem to think that's impressive
ebon osprey
the impressive part is how they fit the games in that little ram
the gpus arent fast
just not slow any more
think better than the worst igpus
how old is the ps4 at this point?
barren pewter
the internet is your friend
ebon osprey
so its slower than a 10 year old console that was half the price?
barren pewter
the console can't fit in your pocket
nor can it really run the game in question that well
RE4R
barren pewter
the console can't fit in your pocket
nor can it really run the game in question ...
RE4 levels of texture quality
and that game is only...what, 18 years old?
ebon osprey
your point?
barren pewter
your point?
it can't really run the game all that well
I've also made the mistake of skimming gameplay, frame dips can get nasty
and they're frequent
ebon osprey
yes?
ebon osprey
barren pewter
a port to a console
doesn't mean it's magically good or even playable
cyberpunk on last gen consoles
ebon osprey
sure
and re4r was basically console quality on the consoles
spend a few dollars on an ssd for your ps4 and a controller for your iphone, hook both up to the same screen, and the iphone will look worse thanks to letterboxing
assuming apple fixes that, you will have trouble telling the difference (also assuming controller support on the iphone)
sure its impressive
but more that apple spent the time to actually get someone to do it
3dmark has been on the iphone for how many years now?
8 years
barren pewter
and...russian
at least with Metro Exodus
but that was a while ago
still has the mac app store listing
but the mac port is available on steam...soooooooooooooo
no need to buy the same game thrice
ebon osprey
if steam can install games on the iphone more than a year before the eu legislatively requires it ill be shocked
gotta remember mac got its start with gaming
apple minimizing gaming is a recent thing
barren pewter
if steam can install games on the iphone more than a year before the eu legislat...
steam doesn't handle mobile ports
at all
that would make no sense
they handle some games WITH mobile ports, but specifically desktop builds of
ebon osprey
gaming on iphone wont be widespread until it can
ebon osprey
aaa gaming is what i meant obviously
barren pewter
sure bud
although we now know hardware ain't the problem
and due to the M and A series being...very similar
one can make one port and tweak it very slightly for another
ebon osprey
yes and no
making 1 port? no, you need touchscreen
yes you only need to add one more graphics api,
but also no the hardware is in fact a problem
but also consider graphics horsepower
barren pewter
...yeah the only real way to play is with a bluetooth controller, kinda expected from the get go
barren pewter
but also consider graphics horsepower
not to put too fine a point on this
but you don't need absolutely insane detail on a screen that fits in your pocket
ebon osprey
sure
which is fine that the iphone is the power of a ps4
(why it is)
its gotta support controller right?
backbone?
ebon osprey
like the case style controllers?
ah so its not really case style but same concept
heres what im thinking game developers will consider
if their game is to heavy to run on the switch, they will try to port it to iphone
barren pewter
um, V
this backbone thing looks awesome
one question
HE thumbsticks?
š
for a 140 kanukhistani kopek device
dang
I assume the buttons are also rubber domes that'll mush out in time
barren pewter
as long as it isn't like the switch pro controller
my only gripe with that damn thing are the digital triggers
which haven't been a problem in any game I've played on switch
ebon osprey
looks like its analog
wait i misread not sure now
barren pewter
my only gripe with that damn thing are the digital triggers
which haven't been a...
but is a problem for pretty much any game I've played on PC with a controller
ebon osprey
not sure how that works but it looks like its got enough travel to be analog?
barren pewter
...holy shit that is cursed
barren pewter
...holy shit that is cursed
and probably doesn't do many favours for your right thumb
ebon osprey
it does, but the device under the theoretical magnet looks suspiciously low pin count
sly flume
@barren pewter are you single
barren pewter
yeah I don't like it either
I'm just annoyed you have to see this...and deal with it
...I wish I knew
I don't really join anything other than niche keyboard servers and very racist eastern european Arma discord servers
ebon osprey
from that description it sounds like we are all better off knowing
ebon osprey
I don't really join anything other than niche keyboard servers and very racist e...
looks like you found the answer
sly flume
barking up the wrong tree?
ik ur not interested but i am sure i can make you love me if i love you enough
barren pewter
meh, some are much more down to earth and approachable
either that or you learn to engage with them on their terms
barren pewter
ik ur not interested but i am sure i can make you love me if i love you enough
stop
now
this isn't a request, but an order
one that will be carried out
or else
sly flume
I think we should break up
barren pewter
we were at no point together, get your head out of your ass
I am so thoroughly uninterested in whatever the fuck you're peddling
and yes, do us a favour and disappear
for good
you aren't valued here
sly flume
we were at no point together, get your head out of your ass
can i get it in yours then
(with rizz)
barren pewter
No means No
disappear before we ensure you do
I think the next step is crucifixion or excommunication
I would rather we crucify, but I appreciate that such a thing isn't actually that popular
empty gale
thanks ill stop now
barren pewter
sad that it took you this long to get the hints...but hey
glad it happened eventually
now make yourself scarce
empty gale
sorry š it was just one rly long shitpost
barren pewter
no, you are
your mother should have got you with the knitting needles when she had the chance
empty gale
your mother should have got you with the knitting needles when she had the chanc...
how do u have so many msgs here btw
how old even is this server
oh wtf
2016
vital wyvern
in fact discord's existence started as just a wooting server
but soon grew to be a platform in its own right
feral ferry
how do u have so many msgs here btw
Hmm I have some catching up to do
Fuck you @barren pewter š
static island
D:
ashen lark
lol how dumb is steam it updated CS 2 on my Mac even though itās not compatible instead of saying itās not
hardy merlin
It's theoretically not, Valve is still working on Linux/macOS build, but maybe they're launching macOS build soon
ashen lark
Well sure but why push an update if it does nothing, they could have made it clearer imo
fringe salmon
Because the previous game version is deprecated
slender bison
The linux version of CS2 doesnt show the smokes, tiny issue
orchid prism
Rather embarrassing.
hardy merlin
That's why I said they're still working on Linux and macOS š I won't play until they fix it, but they could at least postpone the release and launch Linux/macOS betas, so CS:GO -> CS2 transition would be smoother
Like, we know you said summer 2023, but no one actually believed that, given Valve Time and all that
vital wyvern
kinda weird they'd deprecate the old version that did support linux and macos for a version that doesn't omg
hardy merlin
Especially now when they're riding that Steam Deck wave
slender bison
What they meant is that we are going to test the build for them summer 2023 hahaha š cant wait to watch IEM Sydney prob gonna be a shit show
slender bison
kinda weird they'd deprecate the old version that did support linux and macos fo...
Prob want the playerbase to massivly generate cs2 data for them to look at / get more testplayers to report and find bugs. But yeah terrible decision to kill csgo that early
feral ferry
unborn spruce
https://www.cyberpunk.net/en/news/49231/patch-2-01
Eh so far.
https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/1908?tab=description but when this is done? Mmm.
Then weāll have a playable game.
hardy merlin
Interesting, you can get Talos Principle for free while buying TP2
trim rock
And save a single cent or whatever it's called in your currency
novel umbra
zloty
trim rock
So you have zloty and zloty, interesting
lucid brook
zÅoty
lucid brook
unfortunately czech layout doesn't have a lowercase strikethrough l
novel umbra
I think derived from "groschen"?
hardy merlin
zÅoty i grosz
2,3,4 grosze
5,6,7,8,9 groszy
Both grosz and groschen derive from latin grossus
We have a lot in common with Germans be it in language or culture
tall anchor
hardy merlin
I like Germany
I don't like our government though
And no one whom I know also likes our government lol
torn coyote
Does anybody know which cs profiles people like zywoo or tenz use for cs2?
hardy merlin
Does anybody know which cs profiles people like zywoo or tenz use for cs2?
https://dotesports.com/counter-strike/news/zywoos-settings-crosshair-and-viewmodel-for-csgo
That's the latest ones
But does it matter? Use the best settings for you lol
torn coyote
https://dotesports.com/counter-strike/news/zywoos-settings-crosshair-and-viewmod...
I mean wooting settings
But thanks nonetheless
fringe salmon
Whatever heās comfortable with and thatās what you should use
Different people have different preference
torn coyote
I can adapt. I'm just curious if pros are using 0.1mm in Tact shooters or not
fringe salmon
Itās not like a game setting where one thing always gives more fps
Some people do some donāt
hardy merlin
I can adapt. I'm just curious if pros are using 0.1mm in Tact shooters or not
Adapting won't give you the best performance though
Just sit and change settings around, see with what you're feeling best
stuck jasper
Experimentation is best
torn coyote
Adapting won't give you the best performance though
Just sit and change settings...
That's not the point of my question. I want to know if they use it or not, nothing else
fringe salmon
Some do yes
feral drum
We like germany too
you only like germany because of beer, the Autobahn and stupid citizens
feral drum
I like Germany
I don't like our government though
And no one whom I know also li...
Because our government is a mess filled with idiots, radical retards and corrupt people
285 mio. ā¬ for a toll thing that didn't go through... Other countries would've immediately impeached that guy
It's a freaking clown show rn
"lobbyism"... Call it by the name what it truly is. Fucking corruption
nimble current
lobbying is just a nicer term for legal bribery
feral drum
i'm getting mad af every time someone mentions our government, seriously
not a single one except our defense minister should have the position they're in rn
feral drum
lobbying is just a nicer term for legal bribery
It should be forbidden and outright be punished with immense fines and jail time
nimble current
system rigged from the ground up
ebon osprey
i mean its supposed to be more a celebration of the result rather than the fighting
tough jay
That sounds stupid, lets first release a drm free version, so crackers get a bit of help cracking the patched version.
ebon osprey
and punish the players who buy later or have updates enabled with lower performance and stutter
feral drum
ah yes, they go back to a more traditional route for the series and then fuck the customer dry in the butt anyways... Ahhh, Ubisoft. Classic move of yours
ebon osprey
hmm
actually that could be the reason
that way reviewers see better performance when recommending the game
tall anchor
you only like germany because of beer, the Autobahn and stupid citizens
I love the stupid citizens in our server. I also like underground raves in berlin.. and gamescom.
feral drum
gamescom was disappointing this year
tall anchor
I didnt go this year
I only went once 3 years ago
however it was amazing, defenetly want to go again sometime.
the year after was corona
tough jay
Got to keep the pirates happy at least while screwing over the rest.
ebon osprey
Got to keep the pirates happy at least while screwing over the rest.
well to be fair the best game in the franchise (imo) was about pirates lel
feral drum
you say there was a possibility we saw each other
not unlikely
feral drum
well to be fair the best game in the franchise (imo) was about pirates lel
best games by far were the AC II series ones
tough jay
Honestly Played AC 1 and 2 a bit back in the day, figured it was not for me and never looked back as people kept refer to AC 2 as the best one.
bleak pike
3 years ago you say? Shit... You saw the ZSS cosplay of mine
Gun too?
fringe salmon
Gamescom has been too full for like 6 years, trade visitor day is still chill though
feral drum
even had a few moments where i had to sit down and unzip it, just to get a breath of air, accidentally tailored it too tight around the chest
static island
rip
feral drum
next years cosplay's definitely Motoko time
static island
good pick
fringe salmon
Hopefully some more interesting booths next year though
feral drum
i have to think about which costume of hers to pick tho. Combat Suit or her Kimono
Motoko Kusanagi!
tough jay
Definitely not a place for me though, especially not going alone.
static island
same
feral drum
and she has a few decent picks
fringe salmon
if you can go in on trade visitor and are somewhat close even alone is fun because you can try so much with just a few minutes waiting
on regular days, yeah dont bother lol
feral drum
agree, just grab the goodies on a regular day
fringe salmon
yeah.. even those were really disappointing this year though
feral drum
Hopefully some more interesting booths next year though
unlikely, many do their own events by now, i.e. Sony, Microsoft, Blizzard
fringe salmon
ehh, still they will be around just this year didnt have much to show in general so there wasnt a point in a big booth from them
I remember taking a pic with ben brode on the big hearthstone stand one time
fun times, when that game was still fun
yeah..
bleak pike
I don't think I'll ever understand card games
feral drum
imho? Fuck Blizzard, let them go to China and ban them from the western market
bleak pike
Well, digital
tough jay
I enjoy them chill single player sometimes. The older yu-gi-oh games and the gameboy pokemon one were enjoyable
fringe salmon
nah, we just need someone to drop a shelf from the 50th floor onto kotick fire him from live change blizzard leadership
feral drum
won't happen unless they have a giant flop
tough jay
Or just accept the world has moved on and those who made Blizzard great have moved on.
feral drum
but they have too many WoW fanboys out there
ebon osprey
nah, we just need someone to ~~drop a shelf from the 50th floor onto kotick~~ ~~...
didnt some of them get arrested?
fringe salmon
idk kotick is still out and around when he should be in jail
even for people who somehow lack empathy the guy needs to be gone, drove all the potential overwatch league had straight into a wall and all
tough jay
He clarified with digital
bleak pike
Juicy?
Remaster apparently coming to PC
ā¶ Play video
Twitter
Twitter
Gave me chills ngl
Twitter
Black ops 6 leaks
feral ferry
Black ops 6 leaks
And nobody cares
Well they like arcade trash so, sad
Unfortunate
feral drum
Seriously, best BF imo was 3
feral ferry
For plebians
BF4 had many fans
Hardline I think was extremely cool
And the WW2 shooter ones were.. popular
feral drum
Please don't remind me of 4... a fucking mess of a game, even after the first few patches
well, 3 had the issue that the medic would be freaking OP with the right Mods on the M16
and the crossbow on top with smokes
feral drum
you were basically a tank on legs, going behind lines, let your mates spawn on you, take a spot, kill everyone that gets behind you from the back and let your entire team push that way
it was just broken af to be an M16/Crossbow Med in BF3
unborn spruce
Where's medal of honour?
In the land of tryhards where it belongs.
Battlebit on the other hand. 
unborn spruce
We like the game that does the Battlefield thing but actually good.
feral drum
willow quiver
Anyone try AC mirage yet?
nimble current
more deep rock pls
young hill
Is the suit for mirage or the VR game?
Well we are not far off too much from an animus
Just need the DNA ancestor sites to turn evil
lyric sphinx
agreed, and the vietnam expansion was great too. It was so far ahead of its time with the destruction models as well
Battlefield: Braveheart
Pay 60$ to unlock William Wallace
lyric sphinx
titanfall
vapid lintel
Ah
Did they ever fix that new Star Wars game or does it still run like garbage on monster PCs?
lyric sphinx
unfortunately every AAA runs like garbage nowadays on any PC š
ebon osprey
ive been shocked how well things work on the deck tho
lyric sphinx
cause who cares about optimisation, just throw more power at it
lets fix it with āAI upscalingā and losing fidelity š
I regret getting a bachelors in digital art for nothing
fringe salmon
eh some bad games doing that doesnt mean every game does it
this year has been great for games actually
vapid lintel
Balder's Gate and in a few weeks CS2, what more could you want?
ebon osprey
cs2 is out and is already working rather well
lyric sphinx
I actually was originally going to intern at Larian haha
ebon osprey
and fsr isnt ai
vapid lintel
cs2 is out and is already working rather well
Comes out October 24th
lyric sphinx
Iām from Belgium so it would have been the logical choice
they are one of the few really good studios left tbh
ebon osprey
Comes out October 24th
different game?
im talking about counter strike 2
lyric sphinx
and fsr isnt ai
Iām talking about nvideas tech
ebon osprey
yea and dlss is pretty fantastic
lyric sphinx
its dogshit š
it needs different rendering pipelines for objects that require more fidelity
vapid lintel
ebon osprey
its dogshit š
id suggest trying it again
its especially great for raytraced games
and now its gotten better
with RR it should be better than native when raytracing
lyric sphinx
it will be never better than native
ebon osprey
it will be never better than native
thats not true for raytracing
vapid lintel
I planned vacation time for when CS2 comes out haha
fringe salmon
with RR it should be better than native when raytracing
ehhhh native in case of RT isn't really fair since anything denoised isnt native and actual native would be full on tracing without either RR or denoisers
lyric sphinx
Iām saying specifically for meshes that are small, moving and can not be estimated
like hair in the wind
ebon osprey
ehhhh native in case of RT isn't really fair since anything denoised isnt native...
bingo
fringe salmon
calling that better than native is misleading though
ebon osprey
sure but its the best technique we have at the moment for high fidelity visuals
fringe salmon
but yes its much better than regular denoising
ebon osprey
RT + RR
fringe salmon
and stuff like hair is also going to be improved upon
ebon osprey
weve had it in the form of blender, although funny enough intel actually had the best one for quite a while
ebon osprey
and stuff like hair is also going to be improved upon
and its already pretty significantly improved
lyric sphinx
we had great techniques for 2 decades that are even better
but takes more time and effort to optimise
ebon osprey
eh not really?
lyric sphinx
yes really?
ebon osprey
small thin objects have been a pretty large problem for rendering this entire time
msaa has a muuuuuch larger impact on performance than dlaa does for example
fringe salmon
hairworks and tressfx and all was nice for hair but still not really flawless
lyric sphinx
Iām talking in general, we are literally as an industry using generative AI and upscaling which loses information to mask the fact everything is rushed and never optimised anymore
ebon osprey
and theres not a whole lot better than msaa, and msaa is pretty bad at getting thin details on textures
ebon osprey
Iām talking in general, we are literally as an industry using generative AI and ...
dlss isnt generative ai
lyric sphinx
can you read after the and?
fringe salmon
I think you are looking at ai in general and one bad game vs the tons of games that dont use it
ebon osprey
sure but we need to separate things out in general
fringe salmon
some game running at 10fps and saying just dlss it doesnt mean every game does it
ebon osprey
we shouldnt be talking about genai because thats not what this is
next we have upscaling
monitors in general and pixels lose information
quite a significant amount of it
lyric sphinx
im giving examples of things that are the reason modern games are trash
fundamentals dont matter anymore
lyric sphinx
do you work in the industry?
ebon osprey
yea...
lyric sphinx
did you study it?
fringe salmon
yes
lyric sphinx
lmao sure
ebon osprey
think more holistically
fringe salmon
been working as a programmer in the industry for like 4 years or so now
ebon osprey
on a small scale sure execs are gonna be gunning for your jobs to be replaced by a more efficient worker who makes use of every tool they have
fringe salmon
but you dont need that to see most games arent trashing optimizations yet
ebon osprey
but the tools arent worse
just different and you need to get used to them
fringe salmon
FFXVI, BG3, ToTK, AC6, Lies of P, RE4:R, Sea of stars, Starfield, Hogwarts, Jedi Survivor, phantom liberty, mortal kombat
did I miss any 2023 game that was great there
ebon osprey
cs2 is yet to be seen but its definetly a massive improvement as well
fringe salmon
both cs2 games yes lel
ah hi fi rush
like how do you look at that list and say modern games are trash or this year was bad for gaming
ah I see he did the classic "you are wrong" into asking for credentials into going offline š¤”
ebon osprey
its the classic I dont like this one thing so im gonna project onto something entirely else and assume my dislike should apply to everything involving the else
i really loved viewfinder
hmm havent actually bought any other games this year explicitly
and i havent played anything from the bundle
lyric sphinx
ah I see he did the classic "you are wrong" into asking for credentials into goi...
people have lives dude, I just got off the train lmao
I studied in Howest Kortrijk, DAE, Game graphics production
class of 2017
fringe salmon
sorry then just had that happen a few times lately
lyric sphinx
and programming side is fine
its the whole āthrow any asset in our engine and it will take care of itā (making filesizes ridiculous), the rendering at lower res and then pretending like DLSS will somehow get that information back and give you fps without any losses on either side
fringe salmon
yeah that just isn't happening though
lyric sphinx
ok. then I guess what I see happening, and my former classmates see happening, all across big studios, isnāt happening
I stopped for that reason
and moved to regular software development instead of being a tech artist
fringe salmon
FFXVI, BG3, ToTK, AC6, Lies of P, RE4:R, Sea of stars, Starfield, Hogwarts, Jed...
which of the recent released games from here or in general does that then if its everywhere
ebon osprey
remember just because you feed 200 gigabyte rock textures into the engine doesnt mean thats what the game is using
lyric sphinx
i got to eat first but I can answer later. half of those use old engines
im saying what is being worked on now
and this tech like dlss and fsr is all there to mask the fact the traditional workflows arent fast enough so they cur corners
ebon osprey
if by traditional you mean rasterized?
Sure?
fading spade
orchid prism
ASSUME THE POSITION, MEATBAG
young hill
Wow still tposing
hot spire
"A wrecked NCPD cruiser without wheels won't be patrolling the streets of Night City anymore."
autumn depot
OH MY GOD THE INTRO MUSIC ON AC MIRAGE
remixed ezio theme
wait wheres raytracing and dlss
why is it locked 60fps
oh no rtx but dlss is there
young hill
oh COME ON
His eyes are above hollow
young crow
"A wrecked NCPD cruiser without wheels won't be patrolling the streets of Night ...
yeah thank fuck
barren pewter
Yeah ok so Phantom Liberty is absolutely S tier.
haven't even finished it and I'm blown away
also the 2.0 rebalance just makes Cyberpunk a lot more enjoyable to play
I'm not throwing away a weapon every few minutes because I find something better
nor am I just buying up components left and right to make money crafting legendary weapons
unborn spruce
Just finished the main storyline and... yeah.
This'll be a DLC that goes down in the history books as one of the best ones.
static island
I'm not throwing away a weapon every few minutes because I find something better...
oh cyberpunk used to play like a looter game?
i kinda hate those, division 2 was my first exp with it and it was kinda annoying having to wait to find same type of gun with the same type of passives that I needed
barren pewter
oh cyberpunk used to play like a looter game?
yes, it did
I found myself just crafting Ashuras
every level
selling the previous
and just crafting hundreds of DS12 Quasars
I think I still have a screenshot of that
barren pewter
I think I still have a screenshot of that
barren pewter
you didnt ahve to
I wanted to get the Autojock achievement without cheating
barren pewter
something like 1.5 mill eurodollar
hot spire
like over a mill
static island
i kinda rly dont like that type of stuff
tom clancy's ghost recon breakpoint had that as a setting and i just made it into a hard'ish tactical game with no level bullshit
unborn spruce
Realistic damage overhaul mod, it's really good.
static island
https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/1908?tab=posts
unborn spruce
Ikr.
static island
now thats my type of shit
unborn spruce
Stealth is king, firefights are fucking scary, mechs are not to be fucked with.
Quickhacks also S tier.
static island
i dont even mind if i get one shot
barren pewter
meh, 2.0 fixed it for me tbh
barren pewter
Quickhacks also S tier.
they really are now
static island
cause insurgency was the fps i used to play the most
barren pewter
unmodded
unborn spruce
meh, 2.0 fixed it for me tbh
Nah lmao. Everything is spongy as fuck.
hot spire
Stealth is king, firefights are fucking scary, mechs are not to be fucked with.
get the anti tank rifle
barren pewter
Nah lmao. Everything is spongy as fuck.
not in my experience
most enemies drop pretty quick
hot spire
from boxing
barren pewter
not in my experience
most enemies drop pretty quick
bosses obviously don't
unborn spruce
Current run is all hud off max difficulty + difficulty mods. Nothing does any damage except from Brick's shotgun.
unborn spruce
I have the sniper, it does nothing.
Basically only Brick's shotty and knives do anything.
And I mean I've hard gone into tech weapons.
barren pewter
from boxing
better ones out there than o'five now
funnily enough, Phantom Liberty throws a few at you
unborn spruce
Oh the shotgun onetaps them and large groups of enemies.
barren pewter
Basically only Brick's shotty and knives do anything.
there's one shotgun from a gig
forgot which, base weapon is the testura
that thing does well over 500 damage
unborn spruce
Just kinda shoot in their direction and they get fucked.
Word of the wise, Bolt is incredibly strong.
hot spire
yeah but you can snipe from youside their range
barren pewter
yeah but you can snipe from youside their range
heh, seriously
this
barren pewter
It's a sniper.
no, it isn't
it's just a middling tech shotgun
Bolt certainly improves it though
as it does all other tech weapons
:P
unborn spruce
Never seen the Brick shotty, have you?
hot spire
i have it
barren pewter
I have it lol
hot spire
tech weapons take too long
unborn spruce
You charge it to max, fires both shells, guarantees electric proc which half kills at max difficulty, and railguns through anything in the game.
barren pewter
and it got replaced by this
hot spire
i just melt everything with the smg
barren pewter
this thing
barren pewter
and it got replaced by this
is terrifying
unborn spruce
Not as scary as Brick.
barren pewter
no no, this thing is scary
unborn spruce
You don't get it, my dude.
Use Kiroshi Oracle to see things through walls, Brick shotgun oneshots everything through unlimited things between you and target. Then mass spam pings and you can railgun stuff from like 80m away and instagib everything.
It's insane.
hot spire
i dont even have to shoot
barren pewter
and it got replaced by this
I can skip all that nonsense with this, Aeon
unborn spruce
Like nothing has come anywhere near me in ages since I can shoot through floors.
barren pewter
it just makes a mess of whatever is in front of it
hot spire
yeah the auto quickhack deck dose that too
barren pewter
that's honestly kinda lame lol
and yes, with the ability to queue quickhacks, camera control does the same thing
unborn spruce
yeah the auto quickhack deck dose that too
Yeah this is also good. I mixed it in with my build tho so the tech shotty spreads quickhack queues.
Give things system collapse and watch the room die.
Bolt is OP as all fuck.
barren pewter
Yeah this is also good. I mixed it in with my build tho so the tech shotty sprea...
if I recall, that is tied to smart guns
unborn spruce
Cyberdecks my dude.
unborn spruce
He knows.
Then you mix OC with Brick shotty and Bolt...
Well safe to say you put out Ping and literally anything remotely dangerous and you have a recipe to delete anything you look at.
barren pewter
Cyberdecks my dude.
which deck?
that seems like a scary good thing to replace the paraline I've been upgrading and is now at tier 4
hot spire
its iconic
barren pewter
figured that much
but where would such a thing be?
Dogtown alone has a bunch of rippers
hot spire
all rippers have all cybers now
barren pewter
all rippers have all cybers now
even iconic cyberware?
unborn spruce
I mean you can get to Westbrook, it's Kraviz' clinic. Tetratronic Rippler.
unborn spruce
@barren pewter Just got the double barrel you have, tech does higher damage weirdly enough.
Tho it absolutely yeets people if it doesn't kill.
barren pewter
<@449275309909344266> Just got the double barrel you have, tech does higher dama...
that is absolutely odd
the Dezerter does almost 3 times as much damage on paper, no?
either way, that seems like the Order requires work to set up and make great
the Dezerter just is
BLAM
unborn spruce
the Dezerter does almost 3 times as much damage on paper, no?
2x as much as Brick's shotgun except less because Bolt.
unborn spruce
either way, that seems like the Order requires work to set up and make great
th...
I mean yeah basically.
I just lucked into enough things to make it absolutely demolish stuff. Also I did the math and it'll 2shot basically any Borg.
Yes including Smasher. That burn damage is ridiculous.
hot spire
static island
you guys are making me consider downloading cyberpunk
maybe after middle-earth and judgment
(next year)
still spire
slim token
taking on a 20 year old goliath within two years lmao
barren pewter
https://www.dualshockers.com/epic-games-store-steam-competitor-ambitions-as-good...
big surprise
a shit platform with a few big games makes no real money
because most just wait for it to hit a real platform
still spire
Yeah they've been hemmoraging money
Sweeney admitting Epic hasn't been profitable for the last 10 months is kinda flabbergasting
hardy merlin
https://www.dualshockers.com/epic-games-store-steam-competitor-ambitions-as-good...
Hah! Called it!
But of course the only way to stay profitable is layoffs, why am I not surprised, again...
still spire
fallow bronze
https://www.dualshockers.com/epic-games-store-steam-competitor-ambitions-as-good...
It. Doesn't sync save games well.. That's just very annoying
novel umbra
yep
I remember having issues with bl3
since gearbox apparently botched the implementation
and then ended up buying the game again cause a key for a version with all dlcs was cheaper than buying dlcs on epic
not sure if bl3 was
novel umbra
well not if you wanna update it
fallow bronze
might be worth money :p
orchid prism