#🎮│game
hot spire
still nothing to type 93 experience
yep
and this is the best aa montoge for wt
because it has one single aa moment
tbo its like my second favorite montage video
behind seeth's farming sim montage
no scope cornshot is in my daily vocabulary.
feral ferry
Damn
I was wondering why this game is so damn easy
Thought I was on some easy or journey mode
I usually hate From games, cause I can't be bothered with the whole mentality of 'die to then go back and try again'
AC6 seems like a very different game, more like a mobile game in a way
fringe salmon
yeah foilage has never been bethesdas strong suit
for one you are looking at the xbox verison in the DF video and the performance is a joke but it's not looking that horrible
https://github.com/ConfettiFX/The-Forge oh hey looks like they ironicall use a rendering layer that even no mans sky used at least for the apple version lol
orchid prism
yeah foilage has never been bethesdas strong suit
Excuse you? Oblivion's trees were gamechangers.
trim rock
Yeah is that even SPEEDTREE?
orchid prism
More like. A fork of MOLASSES amirite
Cause cause you know... Molasses is slow. It's a tree pun.
fringe salmon
yes starfield performance is a joke but your weird agenda of how every new game looks worse than older ones because you get fooled by high contrast or similar is getting boring
nimble current
fr though those are some 2003 tier looking enviromental assets
hope those are low/medium settings or something
fringe salmon
could be series S footage where its lower fidelity for everything idk
fringe salmon
thats why consolidation is bad
bleak pike
idk why it was so difficult to replicate SR3
trim rock
Not that surprising after the recent releases haven't done so well, sadly
fringe salmon
not great but not enough to kill the studio if it was on its own I wager
deft bloom
Lol starfield is poo, what a surprise
barren pewter
not surprised at all
This new SR is
abysmal
even the stuff just copy pasted from the previous is a sad mockery
severe compass
I am certain though that it's not the dev team's fault
The new SR WREAKED of executives enforcing out of touch focus group testing. Like the nose dive in writing was big
craggy ether
haha fr
craggy ether
alright thanks
is it worth the 190 euros in ur opinion though?
compared to my keyboard i have rn (rk61)
tired knoll
compared to my keyboard i have rn (rk61)
i had the same one haha
craggy ether
hahaha
tired knoll
and to answer your question, it depends
this keyboard is really good if you want to get really good at a game or something
if you want to increase your skill ceiling
tired knoll
i don't think it would make you better, that's up to you at the end of the day
tired knoll
not at all, don't think there will ever be
craggy ether
alright thank you
tired knoll
alright thank you
what other games do you play
craggy ether
Some cs, fortnite and some other games (more casual)
Is rapid trigger basically just putting the actuation point really low or is it something else?
Is it removing the reset point basically?
so whenever u press your key down it triggers, no matter how deep you press it on? For example if it were 2mm down and were to hold it there, but when you press it again to like 3mm it would trigger again?
Excuse me if my view of it is just terrible 💀
wow thats crazy
thank you
still spire
Hmm so starfield runs poorly and is reviewing poorly, shocker
dry dagger
Anyone else excited to get 50fps playing Starfield?
dry dagger
I saw Shroud was getting 90fps with a 4090 and 13900k in 1440p. Might be playing mine in 1080p lol
barren pewter
You can't get 60fps with a 3080 on PC at 1080p
I remember when you needed a 2080ti to get 60FPS at 1080p in the most demanding title at the time
good fuckin times
hardware prices were a little less absurd then
barren pewter
yep
but hey
it was truly best of the best
and the 20 series wasn't half bad otherwise
still spire
???
severe compass
The 2080 Ti was when the goalposts were moved by Nvidia, and no one was happy about it. Really can't call it a good deal
severe compass
That's a big oof really, as the 4090 is really just a titan with some missing titan features
Sucks for those who need production work that there's a lot of software locks for more niche features tho
Crypto gave Nvidia an opening to raise prices dramatically. As it ate into the entire market all around if you needed a card you had no choice. Now with AI becoming big Nvidia seems to have raised margins again with the 4060 containing what is really a xx50 class chip
hot spire
it dropped to 8mb/s
wtf
this is a damned multi gig nvme
5800x3d
at 2%
not consistanct load
the slow was the lul
4 plus
not the fastest
most of those are newer
this was early 2021 when i got my x570
quaint smelt
What do you guys think of my apex clips & do you guys enjoy the game?
#1 Left Hand Aimer CHEATING on APEX LEGENDS!?
https://youtu.be/epAq9EAffl8?si=W20iALaPNnPGPK-P
rancid hearth
Completely clickbate title
fervent mantle
What do you guys think of my apex clips & do you guys enjoy the game?
#1 Left ...
wait where is the hand cam??
wooting overall
oh fr?
i thought he was dead serious
hot spire
prop a hacked account or something
jebus
60% cpu at the fucking menu
wait
every preset sets res scaling
low med and high are 50% and ultra is 75
static island
ah the facial movement is so mid
chilly root
Coming from 160 hours of bg3 the animations and voice acting is killing my soul
static island
LOL
still spire
Coming from 160 hours of bg3 the animations and voice acting is killing my soul
Bethesda game
Not sure what people expected
This is kinda their thing, bad animatons / VA are almost a staple
Also keep in mind this game was originally slated to release in 2017. They thought it was ready to launch in 2017. It's almost 7 years late.
This is the polished version of Starfield
lol
slim token
nimble current
I mean starfield doesn't even have a multiplayer mode, whereas star citizen is multiplayer only
they share a common setting but then went in very different directions
sc got magical top speed limiter for rocket thrusters 
or a balancing factor
wouldn't surprise me if starfield flight mechanics are permanently coupled
there's sc hacks that'll push the ships far beyond cigs set limits
so engine seems to handle it, in some iteration at least
going top speed isn't really a regular activity in sc anyways to my experience
p much only when having to reach a waypoint without a qt beacon
curious to see how hard or not suicide by newbie error is in starfield
like accidentally enabling cruise control during landing and slamming full throttle into nearest wall exploding
or forget your helmet in an airlock and asphyxiate in seconds
hot spire
like accidentally enabling cruise control during landing and slamming full throt...
You don't land
nimble current
its all cutscene/menu transition?
hot spire
Yes
nimble current
that's a bit oof tbh
hot spire
Ship combat is like battlefront
nimble current
from space to planet surface I can dig it, but no low altitude takeoff and landing while on a planet?
hot spire
To be fair no action rpg has good ai
nimble current
needs a near deafening drone from the CD-ROM drive running an entire game from disc for more authenticity
yeah, the various sounds of rotating storage formats
extincted aside from whatever businesses/institutions that might use it still
it'll be like those EVs with fake engine note from the speakers
degaussing and cleaning out the ball mouse, the everyday hits of dopamine we lost over the ages
that shit was satisfaction incarnate
orchid prism
Jesus.
barren pewter
I went bowling with him last week
orchid prism
At least fit ships with retro boosters to make it make sense, and have ships slowly lean towards a gravity well
orchid prism
I went bowling with him last week
HEY ROMAN
barren pewter
don’t you fucking dare
orchid prism
barren pewter
that line is burned into my head
STOP YOUR STUPID PHONE CALLS ROMAN
I’m too busy boinking female side character #3
orchid prism
TEACH ME THINGS
Ah Christ ... Starfield doesn't have an fob slider. Gotta ini hack it.
I wonder if that means it doesn't even have ultrawide support.
trim rock
Surely the ingame console is still accessible
orchid prism
Jesus... Hex editing to get ultrawide? What is this, 2003?
This just sounds like normal BG3 gameplay to be honest.
barren pewter
Hall effect joysticks?
nice
unfortunately I’ve started to develop a bit of an allergic reaction to joystick use
HMD?
oh
Welp, a little less obnoxious way to watch porn in public, I guess
right
Black Friday is round the corner
I wanted to get some crap for a system
but I’m a cheap bitch
lucid brook
ok so how is starfield
barren pewter
was planning on a 5700x and a 32gn DDR5 kit
Pricing is really solid on them
Could probably get that with a nice mini ITX mobo for…900 CAD around Black Friday?
lucid brook
why is mini itx popular all of a sudden?
loud hamlet
project loki playtest for EU just got announced. game looks really solid if anyones interested. its a mix of LoL + battle royale developed by ex riot, blizzard and apex legends devs
barren pewter
Could probably get that with a nice mini ITX mobo for…900 CAD around Black Frida...
That with a nice psu and some new drives with comical storage capacity, could transplant my current GPU into my system to hold me over till next gen
loud hamlet
check theorycraft games website to register if youre interested
barren pewter
Would be nice
barren pewter
why is mini itx popular all of a sudden?
I’ve been interested in it for years
I think it’s just finally being taken seriously
By companies
I am not stuck with mini itx
lucid brook
there are what, like 2 mini itx boards per platform?
doesn't sound too serious to me
barren pewter
tbh, some of the high end boards have decent IO
more than I’d use at least
Could do that
I’ve seen it done with specialized risers
forgot the term for it off the top of my head, but it splits one spot into two
Yes
lucid brook
i wanted to put my 1060 into my system so i can use it for host and the 3060ti for passthru, i have yet to do that
barren pewter
I’m sure the newest ones do
lucid brook
what is that? a splatoon board?
looks cool
i can't get over it but the bios buttons look so silly
haha yeah
it's just that they spend hours designing this thing and then put the cheapest button you can find on aliexpress on there
severe compass
You want a reliable but simple button. Something it's not used often, but when it is it's needed
orchid prism
Shame AMD doesn't come in purple. Perfect match for me.
still spire
You remind me of this guy in my other Discord, he gets green everything he can
lucid brook
i am simple, either black or white
still spire
tired knoll
I haven't seen one yet haha
tired knoll
I’m too busy boinking female side character #3
I felt so betrayed when Michelle double crossed us
hot spire
This just sounds like normal BG3 gameplay to be honest. <:havo:97582161341515786...
Someone totally found the shadowheart skip in not al gameplay
deft bloom
bleak pike
@feral ferry it was cracked before release
tired knoll
<@290176243544883200> it was cracked before release
got a buddy of mine playing it already
feral ferry
<@290176243544883200> it was cracked before release
Yes obviously, it's not even DRM'd
Just that the files are available for download
orchid prism
I thought it was always online?
feral ferry
I thought it was always online?
What online?
orchid prism
I honestly haven't looked much into the game. I assumed it was ala. Diablo 4 with logins and all, no offline play
Hence no inherent DRM needed.
tired knoll
I thought it was always online?
private beta trials got cracked
feral ferry
private beta trials got cracked
Doesn't make any sense
It's not online cause there's no multiplayer
Bethesda doesn't do DRM in general
orchid prism
76?
feral ferry
Other than that yes
Although it seems someone managed to actually make it work, Fallout 76 cracked with online play
They cracked online for a little while
trim rock
Starfield 76 when
bleak pike
Yes obviously, it's not even DRM'd
My dude
I'm saying it was cracked before early access release
feral ferry
Yeah yeah whatever
bleak pike
Funnily enough it doesn't show up on steam
It acts like an alpha where others can't see you playing
still spire
Yeah it was aggressively mediocre
That's the big issue
But just this guys post and defense and then bam, they do shut down because of how bad the game did
glacial linden
The game design might just be too outdated
still spire
Yes, a couple
Red Faction was kinda neat
Summoner was ok, not very good, but not bad either
nimble current
descent freespace and freespace 2
orchid prism
still spire
deft bloom
where the fuck is my invite volvo
severe compass
People always get it backwards, it's never been "Go woke, go broke"
It's "Go creatively bankrupt, hound trends for a quick dollar", though I suppose it doesn't ryhme. Companies be doing it for like a hundred years: advertise to a younger generation without actually talking to them by making cheap caricatures of them that offend
Essentially "Hello my fellow kids! As a person who is perhaps within your generation and thus ideologically aligned I would like all your money please!"
bleak pike
https://youtu.be/hql6doE-Ccw
The damn bezels though
deft bloom
yep sadness
tired knoll
sen d the link to download
trim rock
To be eligible for a CS2 Limited Test invite players must have CS:GO Prime status, an active official competitive matchmaking Skill Group, and play majority of their official matchmaking games in one of the regions where the Limited Test is available.
fading spade
The DPAD is clicky on the Legion Go
I wonder will the Legion AR Glasses work on any device and not just Legion products
feral ferry
Yeah my rank expired cause I couldn't be bothered to play competitive lol
No CS2 big sad
unique bane
got my cs2 invite as well
upper plover
first thing i saw and im triggered already
gritty cloak
first thing i saw and im triggered already <:dogekek:1134256020156317706>
The deagle blaze is even more funny 🤣 😂
deft bloom
first thing i saw and im triggered already <:dogekek:1134256020156317706>
send that to me, I'll fix it
deft bloom
nice inv
upper plover
thanks 
unique bane
@upper plover looks brighter doesnt it?
upper plover
<@172590735873409024> looks brighter doesnt it?
It’s under the lighting so it shines/brighter. The game itself is brighter than csgo too
feral ferry
https://clips.twitch.tv/FastAthleticYamRuleFive-h9JYRiWUeEl36Uzp
https://clips.twitch.tv/CallousSpookyKoalaPlanking-RQ98_5rYxYZxwTzQ
Yeah the AI needs work
Modders will fix it, no worries
orchid prism
Watched a review. It's basically fallout 4 with a space theme and randomly generated fishbowl planets
feral ferry
Exactly what it is
orchid prism
So... Exactly what I expected of Todd. Nothing more, nothing less
feral ferry
And it'll be fun to play for a few days every year 
willow quiver
orchid prism
Oh and apparently generated locations aren't generated, just grabbed from a very small, static pool of prebaked designs. With identical mob spawns and so on.
still spire
Oof
orchid prism
https://youtu.be/3uuI-6fwwtY?si=S_LIhwysSK1nh_yA&t=1126
Man even did a spreadsheet to count them up 😄
feral ferry
Oh and apparently generated locations aren't generated, just grabbed from a very...
That sounds off
Generated locations should be properly generated
Like, that's the whole point of "procedurally generated"?
orchid prism
The location and the terrain might be different. The location itself is apparently just like visiting anywhere in Fallout or TES.
With Starfield taking the entire complex and plopping it down on generated terrain.
fringe salmon
Todd tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies 🎵
feral ferry
Well tbf that's just cause of the game engine
fringe salmon
???
feral ferry
Again I might like Bethesda games, and Creation Engine where it's good
But space exploration is not where you use CE
fringe salmon
How is this an engine limit
feral ferry
CE doesn't have anything remotely like "procedurally generated dungeons"
They are all pre-made
orchid prism
I have no issue with using static locations - But the engine is literally modular.
Dungeons are a LEGO set of objects clicked together.
feral ferry
So if they just made a pool of things that RNG chooses for the procedural part, then yeah makes sense
fringe salmon
You are putting too much weight on the engine when basically no engine has that because you code that yourself for your usecase
orchid prism
If you're seeing the exact same buildings a handful of times in a 20 hour span of playing, that's not great. Especially since apparently loot and mob locations inside are also predefined - so you're redoing content in a sense, even if it's NPC_PIRATE_RED instead of NPC_SLAVER_BLUE
(Goes back to being blissfully ignorant about Space Fallout)
fringe salmon
For the engine to limit your ability to basically do Minecraft a lot more had to be wrong
And givens hey literally used the same rendering layer that NMS used by adding that
feral ferry
Again, CE never had anything that would allow it to procedurally generate terrain content for you
fringe salmon
The engine is not stuck in 1970 for that lol
feral ferry
And I imagine they didn't bother to implement that either
fringe salmon
Give me documentation on CE functions and engine access and I make you procedural content in 20 minutes
That is not hard
Making tools to make more parameters and fine tune that so you can have NMS and not Minecraft takes time but they already have to do similar stuff for this implementation
feral ferry
Well if you want to learn a new coding language, sure
Cause Bethesda created their own coding language for scripts in CE
fringe salmon
Ok so I might need an hour if the syntax is weird
orchid prism
Again, CE never had anything that would allow it to procedurally generate terrai...
Except you know... the framework for it.
All it needed was take the existing world editor and turn corridors and rooms into proper modules, something it already did internally due to how objects works. You're literally dragging modules next to each other and adding clutter.
feral ferry
All it needed was take the existing world editor and turn corridors and rooms in...
That's how most map editors work
fringe salmon
Set up guidelines and automate it suddenly you have a procedure to generate maps
feral ferry
Well it seems that it was done once or twice for both Skyrim and Fallout 4
Ultimately it was just scripts and didn't go anywhere
Not really an engine that has a built-in feature for this, though possible to code
Not sure why Beth didn't
trim rock
It's their engine, they can modify it to do whatever they want
fringe salmon
If our last company practice was make a procedural Minecraft world in like 2 hours in 1-2 people groups I’m sure Bethesda could do it too
still spire
I mean Shadow Warrior 2 managed to do procedural generation
An that studio is smal las shit
deft bloom
severe compass
The engine is just fucked
I understand the engine isn't everything, but you reach a stage where the baggage on the engine after years, and years, and years of tech debt just makes it a nightmare to work with
fringe salmon
hdr being fucked is sad bad expected, it not even being available on pc is a joke and sdr being bad too is just extra sad
trim rock
It just works
orchid prism
That's how most map editors work
Indeed.
severe compass
Like it just becomes the case that after a while if the engine's code isn't being maintained then you wind up spending more work fixing old code then implementing new features. If tech debt becomes bad enough then new features become nigh impossible. Any attempt to add a new feature might involve having to pull the whole engine apart like having to disassemble an entire house to its foundations just to add a new window.
Bethesda's engine has been in use since Morrowind, and although it received some big update for Skyrim, and for Starfield you do start to question that maybe scrapping it to work on a new engine from the ground up (or buying a competing engine) might be the best move. As it would mean less time spent trying to fix problems, and more time spent on features
fringe salmon
at some point it's not just the engine though, unless SDR was broken by default and they always had to fix it
severe compass
It is the engine, because the engine has been mismanaged, and now things like adding HDR break SDR, and Bethesda thinks fixing the engine's tech debt in rendering colour and lighting would take too long.
This game has been in development for like half a decade, I know that's normal for a lot of AAA games nowadays, but a lot of those games run into engine trouble as well
fringe salmon
I mean thats just a guess though that hdr broke the sdr colors
severe compass
What else could have broken SDR colours?
fringe salmon
wanting to add hdr so they might have made the base settings on textures wrong for example
which could happen on all engines
severe compass
Like it was working for every game since Morrowind, and only stopped working after adding HDR
HDR would be technology interacting directly with the technology that implemented SDR.
Like 90% chance it's the engine being unable to manage the HDR and SDR modules effectively because it was only ever designed to do SDR
Getting the base settings wrong on the textures should've been noticed before release though, and would've been fixed quickly
fringe salmon
uhhh hdr would be an additional thing that uses the base rendering but adding that doesnt really change rendering for SDR
severe compass
That's presuming the engine was designed with no tech debt
fringe salmon
no thats assuming not some hyper cursed rendering where I dont even know how one would add it so it breaks sdr
severe compass
That is what tech debt is
To get a game rushed out, to get features delivered faster then feasibly possible shortcuts are made in the code. Where it would be proper to maybe have everything neat and tidy in discrete modules it's instead spread out with spaghetti code and barely any comments to make sense for future developers. Then when implementing future features they run into a problem:
Do you go back and redo the code,
Or do you put up with it and either make a duplicate module, or have the new code implement fixes for the shortcuts inside of itself instead of the old code?
Often companies will pick the second one, but this runs a risk. Eventually a feature is added that NEEDS that old code fixed or the game won't work or at best perform poorly. So the developers go back and fix that old code, but with no comments, no documentation, no senior developers that remember all the shortcuts they made during and after: All the modules made between that shortcut and now break down
fringe salmon
no like, it would be harder and more work in any way I can think of to make the sdr rendere so that adding hdr would break dark levels
severe compass
No like you are still thinking about this in terms of the code being discrete and sensible.
Tech debt means new features, and fixes to old modules can cause unexpected breaks where you might never expect it to happen
fringe salmon
I know what it means I am saying I am having trouble thinking about how to even make a sdr pipeline that would break when adding hdr
fringe salmon
could it be? sure. but it doesnt seem to make sense to me that the addition of hdr is what broke sdr
just saying its the engine/tech debt at points where it doesnt make sense simply doesnt fit
no point in making an uncertain complaint when there are way more clear issues with the engine lol
severe compass
I feel like a texture problem would have been caught earlier and fixed easier, and also it seems that light sources don't get very bright
fringe salmon
It’s not like texture setting is the only other option
Could also just be they changed the renderpipline for other reasons that don’t interact with hdr and broke something
hot spire
The gamma is broken if you have multiple screen or run windowed mode for me
Disabling my extra screen fixed it
quiet vault
is this apex
barren pewter
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/778887485400154132/1147172446630313994/Sc...
Most realistic vegetation I’ve seen
More realistic than real life
Damn
lucid brook
one of the games ever
bleak pike
Alright, ShillUp giving it a 3/10
Which
bleak pike
groans in 30fps
bleak pike
Without fsr? 😛
bleak pike
Magic PC
golden halo
i cant even launch it#
LOL
cs crashes every time i try lauinching it
wth area they doing
hot spire
barren pewter
👌
still spire
small comet
cs crashes every time i try lauinching it
citizen star?
quiet vault
yall think forza motorsport will be good?
dry dagger
I can't stop hoarding in Starfield, send help.
deft bloom
groans in no cs2
golden halo
citizen star?
Na cs2
golden halo
*groans in no cs2*
Dw I got access and I still can’t launch it without crashing
Apparently today should be fixed
hot spire
I can't stop hoarding in Starfield, send help.
me: dont be a stealth archer for the 1000th time
game: my first 3 star ledgedary gear
sudden prawn
@hot spire are you using the default of 50% renderscale when playing at med?
bleak pike
He's using a miracle machine
sudden prawn
I mean my machine is pretty similar
5800X3D/2080, he is 5800X3D/1080ti
only thing is he has more vram
feral ferry
hot spire
<@265691493006573568> are you using the default of 50% renderscale when playing ...
no fsr
feral ferry
Quite a bit locked behind the expansion
hot spire
no fsr
feral ferry
50% no fsr
sudden prawn
ah
feral ferry
So half the resolution scale
sudden prawn
hmmm
feral ferry
A bit... blurry?
hot spire
no fsr no scale
sudden prawn
It feels like I'm swinging from 40-80 at 1440p
hot spire
truning fsr off removes scaling
sudden prawn
though I didn't have an Fps counter
feral ferry
Shouldn't work like that, you should be able to render at lower res
sudden prawn
steam has fps
game pass boi
hot spire
not unless its doing gysnc/adaptiuve sync
it has no idea what fps it is
only refreshrate
hot spire
pc just hard lcoked playing lol
sudden prawn
Oof
grizzled bramble
While everybody else is playing Starfield, i'm just over here playing this
orchid prism
Apparently you can cheese loot by attacking defense less traders who carry high end loot.
No police or anything shows up.
craggy mulch
While everybody else is playing Starfield, i'm just over here playing this
is that elite dangerous?
grizzled bramble
is that elite dangerous?
No , Bright Memory : Infinite
tough jay
Somebody needs to make a mod to replace every voice line with an ai generated version of that one.
hot spire
https://youtube.com/shorts/Ea43M7uEmPk
Wes dose SOOO much vo for BGS
feral ferry
Uh huh?
DESTROY CHAOS
Tbf it's funny he says that when they just launched a very much bug-less experience
hot spire
Molag Bal, Lucien Lachance, Fawkes, Protectrons and sentry bots
feral ferry
They should have said that in 2011 when Skyrim launched, or better off, Fallout 76
FO76 launches, and first thing you see the next day is an employee saying "yeah bugs matter but we embrace chaos"
quiet vault
hot spire
quiet vault
need a forza replacement
this looks promising with some changes
ye seemed a bit static
its alpha tho so im hopeful :D
rally games are so fun with a wheel
tough jay
Ah yes just as relevant today as it was a decade ago or 15 years ago at least.
Still the fact that an IGN dares to just give it a low score does make me think things have changed
when user reviews are going to state the obvious anyway, there is less pressure on big outlets to be overly optimistic.
shy prawn
anybody tried starfield with joystick input on WASD yet?
or have a profile they'd like to share
still spire
barren pewter
congratz
I'm sure
can't wait for when it trickles down to EVERYONE else
I don't play CS seriously enough to ever score one
I'll just wait for the full release
tired knoll
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/778887485400154132/1147413829865701437/im...
he should zip their pants up when he's done
barren pewter
eastern european experiencing true joy
2023, colourised
still spire
Imagine calling Starfield a once in generation game that redefines what an open world means
Jesus
Glug glug
barren pewter
eastern european experiencing true joy
2023, colourised
it's rather pathetic that it's CS2 doing that, but hey
some people are rather pathetic
hush
play your little computer game
damn now I want a white russian
but I have no kalhua and my body does not agree with actual dairy
yes
they also cost an arm, a leg, and a slice of kidney
the local gypsy village ran out of those...
ooops
overharvesting is not good
a shame I had to learn that the hard way
feral ferry
orchid prism
Odd timing to release something that might be touched on by the expansion patches.
feral ferry
Yeah, prolly the author panicked or something
tough jay
Never really gotten into ck, combat was kind of meh in both 2 and 3 and 2 at least was rather rng heavy.
deft bloom
my time is now, finally
fringe salmon
yeah thats just really sad
should have modularity and then let random generation do its work
bleak pike
Early access for a SP game is so stupid
nimble current
pay extra to bugtest release beta
feral ferry
Early access for a SP game is so stupid
Not really
People paid extra so they get to enjoy a week of early content, what's wrong about it?
Game releases on EA for a week
fringe salmon
yea so its a week paid beta testing lmfao
if it was for pre orders or same price, sure
feral ferry
Still don't see what's wrong with it
It didn't release for 1-3 years of EA
Just a week for early adopters to get their hands on the game early
severe compass
What would be the best option for an engine for Bethesda?
fringe salmon
whatever their dev team would be able to work best with
feral ferry
What would be the best option for an engine for Bethesda?
GameMaker Studio
Or hell just RPG Maker
Bring back Fallout 2.5D
In all fairness though, Unreal would be the best choice in terms of support
fringe salmon
that's not a given
unreal, unity, cry, idtech all could work depending on what they want to do with what team
feral ferry
I don't know if Crytek even does much in terms of development on CryEngine anymore
fringe salmon
or even licensing someone elses like death stranding did
feral ferry
We haven't really seen CryEng being used all that much
Last game I saw on that engine was Kingdom Come, and that was years ago
fringe salmon
star citizen is basically using cry + own work on it
feral ferry
- got sued
nimble current
fallout 1 and 2 should be considered for the remaster treatment
feral ferry
But still not sure Crytek does much upkeep to compete with the top engines
There's that Amazon one, not sure what that one's good for
Unreal is probably what they would pick
nimble current
BG3 kinda shows a turn based combat game isn't quite so dead in the water in 2023 as many would have expected
fringe salmon
the code for cryengine is open so they could take it and just add what they need
if it's unreal it's most likely less for the engine and just the fact its easier to find people who have experience working on it
feral ferry
Amazon Lumberyard is also a fully customizable game engine
fringe salmon
because idtech still is not a fit all solution engine that works for everything
and they already use idtech parts in starfield
nimble current
if you pick an engine first and then decide on what you want it to be capable of after you get star citizens development cycle
feral ferry
Tbf for what Bethesda wants to do
They can make a brand new engine
Not Gamebryo, but a proper one
tired knoll
Tbf for what Bethesda wants to do
sellout to AMD? lost all respect for them lol
fringe salmon
man your idtech boner is bigger than vex boner for todd
feral ferry
Come on I don't have a todd boner
fringe salmon
you sure about that?
tired knoll
man your idtech boner is bigger than vex boner for todd
vex boner for AMD*
feral ferry
I don't really stan AMD all that much either
fringe salmon
right I forgot they sold out to amd and did what amd wanted, make it run worse on amd cpus...
nimble current
isn't that engine sorts ment for adventure/rpg stuff though
fringe salmon
this just smells amd sellout, definitely
feral ferry
this just smells amd sellout, definitely
I guess those are Starfield results?
feral ferry
I haven't really seen a game that "sells out" to a specific company
Some sway towards AMD, others to Nvidia
Like I think Forza usually loves AMD
feral ferry
War Thunder and such don't tolerate AMD at all
It's a hit or miss, nothing conclusive can be told
fringe salmon
ah yes let me show the gpu differences when the game is so heavily cpu bound..
feral ferry
Ngl I just learned that No Man's Sky does not run on Unity like I thought
They coded their own engine
I mean, if Hello Games can code an engine with 10 employees, Beth can definitely
fringe salmon
yes and for at least some versions they use the same rendering layer as beth did for starfield
fringe salmon
there is a difference between saying its less api overhead vs cpu limits will be gone
even the best case dx12 implementation cant magically make cpu work disappear
feral ferry
Anyways thanks to that GN video, I thought I wasn't even going to bother trying playing Starfield
But it seems I can expect about 30FPS at 1440p high with my RX 5700
Turn on FSR and maybe it'll get 40-50, good enough
fringe salmon
literally nobody "agreed" to that
you need to remove your tinfoil hat
that doesnt even prove anything if I can or can not mention it
severe compass
Microsoft promised they would lower DX12's overhead
Developers took advantage of that lower overhead by spending less time optimizing games
feral ferry
that doesnt even prove anything if I can or can not mention it
Counter-Strike 2
severe compass
The result is as you can see, the games perform like poo poo
fringe salmon
or maybe that means the game has exponentially more content so even better render times end up at lower fps?
feral ferry
I heard that Starfield has really good loading times
Does Starfield use DirectStorage?
Cause I haven't seen many games use that tech
fringe salmon
did not say starfield, said that as something generic since we are about dx12 in its entirety
what game even has cpu bottlenecks aside from starfield this year?
feral ferry
what game even has cpu bottlenecks aside from starfield this year?
BG3
Afaik it's quite CPU bottlenecked
severe compass
You can simultaneously congratulate Microsoft for giving developers the tools they need for success, and admonish developers for failing to effectively use those tools.
Starfield as many have pointed out is likely held back by its outdated engine, and even though it's technically the "Creation Engine 2", it still performs on par with the Creation Engine albeit with seemingly less bugs
feral ferry
You can simultaneously congratulate Microsoft for giving developers the tools th...
Actually one thing people completely forgot to mention
CE2 is more than just an iterative jump
They removed the 60FPS cap
Physics no longer are bound to framerate
Obviously you'll have to pay a fuck ton of cash right now to even get 60FPS in the game
But yeah they did lots of work on the engine
Main issues remain is just how they render the game, but that's just how the engine was designed
Game just puts you into a room, only way out of it is to level transition, there are no "hidden transitions" or some kind of level streaming
But that could be fixed if they develop proper level streaming code and make a seamless world on all axis
unique bane
ultra setting shadows once again fuck up fps lmao
Pardon for not reading further, but this seems to be NV issue with shadows
fringe salmon
oh maybe, only saw the hub video
tired knoll
which hub...
unique bane
Atleast I read yesterday regarding the shadow issue that on NV FPS takes a dump while on AMD doesnt
Weird
bleak pike
Turn on FSR and maybe it'll get 40-50, good enough
Good enough?!?!?!
feral ferry
Yeah?
What's good enough for you
40 is playable framerate for me
30 is playable framerate
20 is.. not great but I have played entire games at 20FPS
Stop being spoiled, entitled children, 40 is easily playable
tired knoll
Stop being spoiled, entitled children, 40 is easily playable <:havo:975821613415...
No.
feral ferry
To add dlss
No
feral ferry
I hope I can mod the Xbox version of starfield
Most likely yes
nimble current
I usually settle on giving me best visuals but keep frames within 60-90fps or so-settings
for less fast paced games I can get by fine on as little as half that
fringe salmon
yeah add dlss to use the nvidia gpu in your xbox...
if you mean windows store or whatever thats not the xbox version xD
tired knoll
Stop being spoiled, entitled children, 40 is easily playable <:havo:975821613415...
60, take it or leave it
even that is unplayable by today's standards
feral ferry
Idc what you say, 40 is literally within the scientific standard of playable
tired knoll
don't care
feral ferry
Learn to settle, not be spoiled premium children
tired knoll
Learn to settle, not be spoiled premium children
we're not you
nimble current
playing on a 60hz panel feels worse for some reason to me even if the game doesn't even hit those frames
tired knoll
as in settling
feral ferry
Yeah my 170Hz ran easily on Baldur's Gate 3 40FPS
Very much a painless, unnoticeable experience
tired knoll
we want a solid 60+ to have a good experience
quiet vault
starfield will be in gamepass or?
nimble current
50fps feels smoother on 144hz panel than 60hz
feral ferry
starfield will be in gamepass or?
Should be there already
nimble current
totally scientific evaluation obv
quiet vault
Should be there already
dont you need some early access thing
seeing so much positive feedback so gotta try in a few days
feral ferry
totally scientific evaluation obv
It does
Again 40FPS is very much easily playable and enjoyable
No matter what anyone says
feral ferry
dont you need some early access thing
I think the gamepass version is the early access one
Ah yeah Starfield will be on gamepass September 6th
hot spire
they have never played a BGS game on launch lol
60 fps good luck
a 3080 barely manages 60 fps at 1080 high
and 4090/7900xtx barely manage 4k ultra at 60
feral ferry
a 3080 barely manages 60 fps at 1080 high
According to GN 3080 does 60 at 1440p high
With a 12th gen i7
No FSR2
With FSR2 it could prolly do 4K60
hot spire
but fsr is ass
feral ferry
Don't agree, but alright
hot spire
ive literaly told everyone on my steam list to turn it off
and they all were supresied how much better it looked
feral ferry
I don't mind that much how certain games look with FSR2
Maybe Starfield is an exception
hot spire
also by default the game renders reduces render scale and ups it with fsr
which is why its ass
hot spire
no it shouldnt be defalt imo
bleak pike
I think the gamepass version is the early access one
Gamepass rarely has the highest editions
hot spire
gp has ea
you need ultimate though
my budy is playing on pc with gp
medium or low no fsr look better than default high
tired knoll
DLSS > SHITSR
hot spire
DLSS > SHITSR
native res > both
fringe salmon
DLSS > SHITSR
go to #🐸│memes with your fanboy flamewars
tired knoll
go to <#195907610640121856> with your fanboy flamewars
shutup AMD user
fringe salmon
damn, amd made the 4090 I guess
hot spire
having fsr enabled, especially at 50% render scale, on low/med will make a lot of people not like the game
medium at 1080p looks terrible
even high is blurry at 108p
fringe salmon
just cba with stupid trolls
tired knoll
cbb with trolls like you yeah
feral ferry
even high is blurry at 108p
Anything will be blurry at 108p
hot spire
Anything will be blurry at 108p <:havo:975821613415157860>
true true
still spire
hot spire
@orchid prism the included you for free!
feral ferry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EauXSOGZKkY
You can, cause I am pretty sure I did
Balteus was a first try beat for me
Kinda weirdly easy considering people said he was a gatekeeper boss?
Only boss that forced me to restart like 7-8 times was double phase boss near the ending
AC6 seems to be relatively disliked by some fans, tons of invincibility phases, bullshit attacks
Game also heavily discourages you from sticking with one build cause some bosses just ignore certain attacks
I beat it but it was a meh experience
severe compass
hot spire
you need more lance
feral ferry
Best build is dual minigun/shotgun and dual stun needle combo
Busted against bosses, instant staggers
trim rock
Nice
tired knoll
good.
feral ferry
Anyways was looking at what's released already
tough jay
Somebody had to do it, imagine a bethesda game without those
feral ferry
Interesting ones I found
Also a bunch of reshade presets already exist https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/166
But that's just Reshade, it always makes things look amazing
quiet vault
Starfield already has nudity mods
link?
quiet vault
:/
barren pewter
I'm not linking something that will get me banned <:havo:975821613415157860>
You know the drill
In my DMs
quiet vault
damn whats starting here
feral ferry
damn whats starting here
It already ended
quiet vault
:/
feral ferry
@quiet vaulthow dare you insult doge like that
Apologize for messing with his emotions
quiet vault
who is doge
plain light
every wooting case should have a duck engraved on it
+1 agree
tough jay
Duck makes for a better joke
ashen lark
So how do you all see the game? Better than expected? Worse than expected?
bleak pike
This would annoy me so much ahah
Think it's worth having starfield on an nvme instead of ssd
quiet vault
unplayable on gen4 ssd
still spire
quiet vault
okay so amd cooperation means nerfing nvidia cards lol?
fringe salmon
no, amd cooperation clearly means making amd cpus worse than intel
fringe salmon
?
quiet vault
orchid prism
Welp... Bloodlines 2 postponed to Q3 2024 😦
fringe salmon
so nvidia has a driver overhead, the game is insanely cpu/bandwidth limited and consoles use AMD gpus so optimizations for consoles are doing more for amd gpus
like the game does not even have a fov slider or working SDR and people think the devs are competent enough to specifically make it run worse on nvidia only?
still spire
Welp... Bloodlines 2 postponed to Q3 2024 😦
Nobody involved with the original is even close to onboard
Not sure why you'd expect anything
orchid prism
Expect what exactly?
still spire
Any quality
static island
tough jay
It makes a lot of sense with the way the game works right now that Nvidia just is at a disadvantage, with their extra driver overhead on the cpu.
But really did anyone expect a performant bethesda game in 2023 when the consoles were already confirmed to be locked to 30 fps.
Heavy cpu usage was pretty much a given.
tough jay
Makes you wonder, I don't know the exact license model but Nvidia could probably copyright strike it.
tough jay
The mod?
feral ferry
DLSS3 enabler, yes
It's funny when a mod for the game has more protection than the game itself
tough jay
Honestly If Nvidia takes it down there would probably be a free version released.
The best move they could do at this point is Release a free mod themselves.
The game cannot be protected well when it has to allow the modding their games are known for.
feral ferry
Ohhh
Apparently there's no need to crack the VMProtect
The authentication the guy made calls Patreon API to check if your OAuth matches with Patreon's and checks if you paid him money (are subscribed)
Seems like a job for a fake server
Peeps have done that for Hitman to emulate "online" gameplay
static island
Seems like a job for a fake server
sounds like an easy job for some people who have done similar stuff
feral ferry
Yeah should be cracked in a day or two
tough jay
Depends on how he does it, if the private key is well obfuscated it may be hard to fake your requests as legitimate
feral ferry
Assuming people with skill actually bother
static island
there was even a "cheat" for some random FPS that had just gotten released on unknowncheats that makes it so you spoof some API call and tells the game you have everything unlocked
feral ferry
there was even a "cheat" for some random FPS that had just gotten released on un...
Ngl
It's probably Rainbow 6 Siege
static island
LOL
it was similar looking
feral ferry
R6S has ridiculously bad security measures
You can download a savefile to unlock rare skins
Like, what
static island
wtf
tough jay
Wait that does not belong client side
static island
I mean I like it when you can do that cause i dont like paying for cosmetics but thats still...
tough jay
I understand modding the client to appear like you use a different skin for yourself but you'd think this kind of info would be stored server side.
static island
i mean, if cosmetics are on your savefile then.. that's what they use
like Deep Rock Galactic
feral ferry
I understand modding the client to appear like you use a different skin for your...
Oh no no no, it's a bit worse than that
You can modify save files to use skins you don't even have
tough jay
I mean that is how it should work
feral ferry
E.G paid skins
But you can also use savegames to permanently unlock skins that have been long locked, for years
Like, alpha tester skins
static island
ofc that's how server-based should work, but some games actually use local info
static island
among us you can just use a random cheat and unlock everything
then you can remove it and you'll keep the last outfit you used
tough jay
they should keep a database with that on your server profile with what you own.
Local info is fine for actual assets and such, to load in but a local save file to be used like that is stupid
quiet vault
ye
static island
they should keep a database with that on your server profile with what you own.
...
some companies are just uh..........
oldschool
tough jay
It's like a webshop allowing the client to name their price, which did happen in the past but should be ancient history.
This has been a solved problem since the dawn of the internet.
static island
the funniest is an Unity game allowing you to roll back to old versions that aren't obfuscated at all
so you can edit shit like giving yourself everything/or enough money to get everything and then going back to the current version and still having what you added
tough jay
I played the game only a bit when it just released and noticed pretty soon that it wasn't my cup of tea. Played the first competitive season just the qualifiers and got to rank gold, seems I was there for some time.
But even then I noticed a very low number of qualifiers for competitive and no real rank reset for some time at least.
Just I won the matches then decided it was enough.
fringe salmon
to have the better TAA without it being upscaling probably
hot spire
i gave my ship some manlyness
static island
lmfao
proper lotus
Anyone played Apex Legends with a wooting? How is movement on that game with the keyboard?
quiet vault
best
proper lotus
I’m really struggling with Tap Strafes, reckon it’ll help with that?
quiet vault
wont make it worse
proper lotus
Lol true
fiery zephyr
Anyone played Apex Legends with a wooting? How is movement on that game with the...
It will help a lot w tap strafes AND with super/hyperglides (If you do those)
feral ferry
People that don't play League of Legends
orchid prism
But. . . I don't play either
feral ferry
Lol, saw this in my feed
Doc got really annoyed by pronouns and decided to start a little rant cause Bethesda didn't want to work with him
What happened to him
Never thought he was that kind of person
unique bane
so nvidia has a driver overhead, the game is insanely cpu/bandwidth limited and ...
So you finally believe me saying NV has an overhead issue 😛
fringe salmon
That’s a long known fact?
unique bane
Yea but I was talking about a few years back and ppl didntb believe me and said instead AMD has overhead problem not NV
xD
fringe salmon
Uhhh I mean years ago maybe when we didn’t have proof of it, also and did habe I think opengl overhead for a while so could’ve still been true xD
unique bane
https://twitter.com/CapFrameX/status/1698043738000425355?t=p9pwvJKz4mQ2V9DSZwzWu...
Anyho, what was that bullzoid rambling video about, same astuff as that capframex tweet?
fringe salmon
No bz was seeing similar scaling to aida, people currently assume the working set of data is like 200mb so way to much for even an x3d l3
Cfx is just an idiot
fringe salmon
Uhh don’t know if anyone did yet
tired knoll
Doc got really annoyed by *pronouns* and decided to start a little rant cause Be...
chad
fringe salmon
hags even on release didnt do much
tired knoll
that just tells me all I need to know
fringe salmon
looking at people having pronouns in bio and pretend like that makes them evil liberals or something is a common trope for idiots like him sadly
feral ferry
So you think a guy cheating on his wife, didn't he also beat her or something?, filming in public restrooms, doing all the anti-vax and 5G conspiracy stories, some kind of healing stones dumb shit, and is following alt-right people on Twitter
he's a "chad"?
tired knoll
yeah lol based asf
fringe salmon
the evil woke mob that kills gaming by having 6 letters in their bio
feral ferry
I need to look up the definition of "chad" and "based" cause I'm feeling out of the loop on this one
fringe salmon
I'm just blocking the idiot, nothing of value lost
feral ferry
I hope that's a joke anyways, sarcasm, as we say
tired knoll
I hope that's a joke anyways, sarcasm, as we say
nah, not joking. He's a likable guy
yeah he's made some mistakes in the past but he's a funny streamer
quin's just acting weird lol
feral ferry
Mate you had a chance to claim you were joking
Don't double down on supporting someone that shouldn't be supported
tired knoll
that's a ridiculous thing to say
anyone can support anyone that they'd like
kind of childish to say you can't watch someone because of what they said or did in the past
feral ferry
You should also realize that people will rightfully judge you for your own views
Aka get banned
tired knoll
Get banned from where? lol
feral ferry
Just chill
tired knoll
I don't know about you, but that doesn't fear me. I'll watch whoever I want or do anything I want lol
feral ferry
And then go support them online cause they are a chad for being a bad human being
Watch whoever you want
But being "based af" for endangering many people and influencing millions negatively is not a good thing to say, you know
orchid prism
feral ferry
I don't think that Vampire the masquerade will ever get another game released
orchid prism
Wat? Bloodlines is the only one that's been an issue.
WoD has had a bunch of successful releases in recent years
feral ferry
Bloodlines is the only one I've heard of
There's more to the franchise than just bloodlines?
feral ferry
Time to give Starfield a try, going to install a few performance mods for shadow quality tweaks and other things, see how it performs
Maybe also slap a reshade on it
Huh, more and more cool mods are coming out
Upscaling will do little to make something look much better when model itself looks subpar
But a good way of doing a quick take on visual improvements, AI is really good at upscaling
fringe salmon
solution is they should have delayed it and launch with zen5
feral ferry
Oh yeah fuckin Bethesda is again applying a green filter on the game
They did a green filter for FO3
FONV had that annoying yellow filter
Starfield is also green filtered again
fringe salmon
huh wonder if that is the cause for wrong colors
feral ferry
Not sure if this is "vanilla", as it's off a reshade page
How it "probably" is
Reshaded
A lot better looking
fringe salmon
a mod for it *
fringe salmon
a paid mod
feral ferry
This one isn't
Paid one is DLSS3 frame gen from PureDark
This one is an easy step by step DIY
fringe salmon
but 3.5 is the ray reconstruction thing and starfield doesnt use RT
so I guess its just latest upscaling without FG or RTR
feral ferry
How to install NVIDIA DLSS Super Resolution Mod for Starfield: https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/111/?tab=files
Download the StarfieldUpscaler archive.
Extract the archive into the Starfield folder.
Download the UpscalerBasePlugin archive: https://www.nexusmods.com/site/mods/502?tab=files
Extract the PDPerfplugin.dll into mods/UpscalerBasePlugin folder.
Download the DLSS 3.5 file: https://www.techpowerup.com/download/nvidia-dlss-dll/
Extract the nvngx_dlss.dll into mods/UpscalerBasePlugin folder.
Launch the game and press END in the game to open the menu for the upscaler, and you can select DLSS.
You need to turn on FSR2 in the game's settings, cuz this mod replaces FSR 2.2 with DLSS/XeSS.
There's no quality levels anymore, you simply change the render scaling ratio in the game's settings (67% = Quality mode, 50% = Performance mode).
Play the game with DLSS 3.5.
ah so its just the latest dlss upscaler that they put into the 3.5 release but its not really dlss 3.5
but sorta is because nvidia marketing apparently started looking at usb specs
feral ferry
I wonder, since Nvidia utilizes CUDA cores for RayTracing, DLAA, DLSS3 and such
Can you tweak, somehow, DLSS to work on AMD hardware?
RX 7000 series have those new AI cores
fringe salmon
cuda cores is the normal core on an nvidia gpu
feral ferry
I am aware
fringe salmon
RT cores and tensor cores which is what nvidia utilizes is seperate
feral ferry
But AMD is more close now to the technical capabilities of Nvidia graphics cards, hardware wise
Cause Nvidia has had "AI accelerators" for a lot longer than AMD did, but AMD has them now
Just wondering if DLSS3/3.5/DLAA could be ported to work on AMD hardware
fringe salmon
if you have the srouce code and recompile it to not use special cores maybe
you find almost nothing on the rdna 3 ai cores
orchid prism
I sure hope so. Maybe a parody on him though
feral ferry
I saw this morning that an audio transcript of some internal Take2 meeting with a CEO leaked
It got taken down by a strike but peeps seemed to be divided
Some peeps are saying AI
Sounds normal to me
Announcement October 23rd for a October 2024 launch, supposedly
tired knoll
what is physical 25
orchid prism
In...what context
tired knoll
the video
orchid prism
Video?
slate plaza
can someone help me please
im trying to play fallout 76 but it keeps wanting me to use the gamepad buttons A,Y,B etc
but i want to just use kbm
i dont even have any gamepad buttons bound to my keyboard
orchid prism
Open Wootility, settings, general setting and disable the gamepad mode.
slate plaza
tyyy <33
tired knoll
https://gofile.io/d/YS0MWP
@orchid prism
feral ferry
what is physical 25
You are american and don't have the listening comprehension to distinguish "fiscal"?