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deft bloom
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of course you can't see your own outposts or towns because of the planets curvature.......................... :) :) :)

fringe salmon
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7 years later and worse tech to make a hopefully better game doesn’t sound that amazing to me ngl

feral ferry
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K?

still spire
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How can you know it will be a good game Vex? We've seen nothing of it

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And it's coming out shortly.

feral ferry
fringe salmon
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We have seen lots of limitations dogekek

still spire
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We've seen what Bethesda wants us to see, and if it's this bad, we should be worried 😛

feral ferry
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Game will be pretty good, can't wait to boot it up and see what they did to Creation Kit

still spire
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Lies of P will be the better September game

deft bloom
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XD

feral ferry
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Mods will be hell of a lot of fun to introduce

deft bloom
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cyberpunk looked cool in videos too

feral ferry
still spire
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If there are any modders.

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Times have changed a lot, good modders make a indie retail game. 😛

feral ferry
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Makes no sense to even question that people that work on mods would hop on Starfield to create content

fringe salmon
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If mods make the game good it’s not a good game if it’s not something like gmod by design

deft bloom
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??

feral ferry
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By that measure minecraft is a horrible game

fringe salmon
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No?

deft bloom
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wtf

feral ferry
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No content at all, barebones sandbox

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Same content all the time

still spire
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...

deft bloom
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you got it backwards, if a game isn't good without any mods, it's not good

feral ferry
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Mods is where Minecraft, and TES/Fallout games shine

still spire
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Vex come on man

small comet
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what the frick is 1296p for a resolution

still spire
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Hey I mean FF16 ran at 720p reconstructed to 1440p and ran at 40-50FPS

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This is the world we live in

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Using FSR1

feral ferry
still spire
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Lmao the fuck

deft bloom
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lul

still spire
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This dude out here saying all Beths games are bad without mods

feral drum
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uhhhhh.... ok

still spire
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They are better with mods, sometimes significantly so

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lol I saw that too

novel umbra
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💀

feral ferry
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Default minecraft is an absolutely horrible nothingburger

novel umbra
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still better than aveum

still spire
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Saw that earlier

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At least it's FSR2 I guess

small comet
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can we stop with random ass resolutions

deft bloom
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69420p best

still spire
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Let us all go back to 320x240

feral ferry
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They infected us with terrible game optimizations

still spire
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It had been the dream of developers for decades to implement real time raytracing in games

small comet
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who actually would ever dream up 768*436.... use 480p

feral ferry
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And told us to use DLSS to fix the framerate cause devs can't be bothered to do so

still spire
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You can see developer interviews back in the 90s talking about how they wish so hard they could

novel umbra
novel umbra
still spire
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Pre-baked raytracing has been used for a long time

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People just wanted it in real time

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Honestly most devs wish they could use path tracing

small comet
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give me good old tech

still spire
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But performance is just not here yet

small comet
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not shitty new tech

novel umbra
small comet
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like idk if you prebake all your lightmaps

still spire
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Well it can take months to years to perfectly pre-bake lighting, or mere weeks with real time raytracing

feral drum
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actually DLSS and FSR aren't a cure to the issues we're facing rn. Poor optimizations, straight up bad programming, memory leaks, poor implementation of any feature, repetitive gameplay... The list goes on and on and on

small comet
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just make the game playable on smth thats not a super computer

feral ferry
feral drum
still spire
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AMD is bad for being a terrbible company

novel umbra
feral drum
still spire
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Look at what AMD has done to NVIDIAS prices.

feral ferry
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Cubemaps like in Counter Strike are still the best rendering tech

novel umbra
small comet
fallow bronze
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i love that there are so many game devs in this channel!

small comet
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like i get the whole challenges of RT and that it looks better and what not... but

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I wanna be able to play games

novel umbra
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switch is prob more likely to be unplayable than most other games

small comet
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not watch powerpoints

novel umbra
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not to mention nintendos HORRIBLE netcode

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6 frames of input lag 💀

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with ideal condiditons

feral ferry
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Cubemaps until 2035 when tech can maybe pathtrace without meaningful performance degradation

feral drum
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actually i haven't seen a single dev who asked for realtime RT to begin with

novel umbra
trim rock
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Yes, now see how well it indirectly lights up the world, what happens when you have multiple lights, etc

feral ferry
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Tbf RT can be done as people are saying, it's just most implementations are horrible

feral drum
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and given how many games didn't have RT at their launch when it became a thing makes me believe that Devs nowadays are more or less forced to implement RT

still spire
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As horrible as Gamebryo is

feral ferry
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I think Teardown had its own RT code not just for lighting but sound too, runs amazing

still spire
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😛

novel umbra
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peepoShrug just use it for good GI

novel umbra
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might as well say that source 2 is still just quake

trim rock
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Realtime raytracing is incredible and can make lighting look real good. Like I think the Lumen stuff in Fortnite looks amazing even though it's still very early days (the noise.. THE NOISE!!)

feral drum
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dude... In the words of Todd: It just works

still spire
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(Sometimes)

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Guys I just wanna throw this out here

feral drum
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i remember their presentation of RT: It just works

still spire
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From Software got a game on PC, supporting 120FPS and Ultrawide

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Before Bethesda did

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BEFORE BETHESDA

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FROM SOFTWARE

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lol

feral drum
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probably the most used phrase we've heard from NoVideo back then was simply: It just works

novel umbra
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to be fair

trim rock
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I thought F76 can run at high framerates just fine these days 🤔

novel umbra
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elden ring still is capped to 60 and 16:9

still spire
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Yeah - but AC6

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Ultrawide native

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120FPS native

novel umbra
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yes

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2023 game

still spire
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And it even supports 32:9, wildly

novel umbra
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fallout 4 is 8 years old now

still spire
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And? Bethesda games still capped at 60

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Yama

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You gotta be joking

novel umbra
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yes

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I know

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it is stupid

still spire
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8 years ago, over 60FPS was normal

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Like very normal

novel umbra
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but you make it more ridiculous than it is

still spire
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Most games didn't have a cap

novel umbra
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exactly

still spire
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Nah it's pretty redic

novel umbra
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small reminder that all that you needed to unlock elden ring was a day 1 mod

still spire
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Friendly reminder that a CRT at 30FPS is smoother than a LCD at 60

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:p

feral drum
novel umbra
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75hz crts were a thing to make 50hz look less bad peepoShrug

novel umbra
still spire
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lol

novel umbra
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complain when you actually have issues

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not before

still spire
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90% chance Starfield launches with a 60FPS cap, or over 60FPS causes tons of physic bugs

novel umbra
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fallout76 has no issues though

feral drum
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And what about Fallout 4 or Skyrim?

still spire
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W e'll see

novel umbra
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not really "again" in that case

still spire
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It's only what, a week or two away?

novel umbra
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this week

still spire
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It's also on Gamepass

trim rock
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I don't think gamepass plebs get it on day one

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Because gamepass is only the pleb edition

feral drum
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that's all i'm saying

still spire
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Ohh, we'll probably get a new Dan Bull Rap

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Starfield, he shoots Garfield

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Blah blah

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Dan bull

fading spade
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Nah I still like Dan Bull

feral drum
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who dafuq's Dan Fool?

fading spade
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his Lady D rap is hilarious

feral drum
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ngl, never understood the appeal of minecraft

still spire
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So now he sucks Bethesdas dick whenever they do a game

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Chasing the money, very understandable though

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It's his livlihood

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OIh here it is

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The original

deft bloom
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why did the word "epic" get phased out

feral drum
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uh... is it just me or is he stealing a lot of Eminems techniques?

still spire
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No clue, but this is how he's decided to make his career, video game raps

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I don't much care for rap so

shadow light
novel umbra
shadow light
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haha yeah I know, I just had to comment since you were so vague

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a friend which is a fan bought it for me, I tried playing it and holy heck, had some weird graphic issues besides everything else

fading spade
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oh man, hed love DemonDice
Shes made a song about this EXACT topic also
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still spire
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Demon Dice is the Vtuber right?

fading spade
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yes but also no

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DD herself is not vtuber

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her uh, other job, is

still spire
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Adult content artist

fading spade
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LOL no

still spire
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Oh so she's that Mori one then

fading spade
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ye

feral drum
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now i need some metal to get that shit outta my head

fading spade
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still spire
fading spade
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DD is not a Vtuber

still spire
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Vtubers in general are extremely rough

fading spade
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well not on this channel

feral drum
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i mean proper metal

still spire
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This is proper metal

feral drum
fading spade
still spire
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That game is kinda ass

deft bloom
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five finger death punch is weak

novel umbra
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ngl

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kf2 ost was pretty good

feral drum
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you should rather ask me what metal i didn't listen to

novel umbra
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kinda funny how you have the options to tunr vocals on and off

feral drum
deft bloom
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schröt kommando?

novel umbra
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thanks mercedes

deft bloom
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I mean 5finger jeez that is so radio friendly sounding wtf

feral drum
deft bloom
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I only know of them because Käärijä copied them for eurovision lul

feral drum
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they're from a town 20 km's away from my own home town

deft bloom
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not metal though?

feral drum
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lel

deft bloom
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tell me again they aren't metal

fading spade
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......Oliver Tree looking MF

novel umbra
deft bloom
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I've heard the song, and that is definitely not metal

feral drum
novel umbra
still spire
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Yeah Hannah Montanna is more Metal

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😛

deft bloom
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yeah get outta here with that

lucid brook
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pendulum is more metal

novel umbra
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gotta gatekeep metal now

deft bloom
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yes, it's my birthright

lucid brook
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burzum is the only acceptable metal project

deft bloom
novel umbra
fallow bronze
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as a metal fan, electric callboy has some awesome songs 😄

feral drum
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oh wow, just because they're mixing metalcore and EDM they're suddenly not metal? Dafuq's that logic of gatekeeping?

deft bloom
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exactly that

feral drum
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all they MVs are specifically whacky

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take a look at Spaceman i.e.

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basically the moment Nico became part of the band they stopped being edgy for the sake of being edgy and produced banger after banger

novel umbra
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lol

deft bloom
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it's more like shit electronic party music with hc punk breakdowns

novel umbra
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disregarding the music

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not really edgy

fallow bronze
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there arent many worse things than metal gatekeepers

novel umbra
fallow bronze
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the no true scotsman falacy

deft bloom
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you can like whatever but you can't call a pile of horseshit a pile of peepee

fallow bronze
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you dont know how to have fun i guess 😄

feral drum
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well, that's the thing about gatekeeping. They're mostly wrong anyways and don't know what's going on within the industry. Just because you like a specific kind of metal doesn't mean you're not a metal head

novel umbra
deft bloom
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not electronic

novel umbra
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most albums use electronic drums

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of some kind

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even if they are just adjusted in post

deft bloom
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not weak radio friendly vocals

fallow bronze
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electric callboy is a bit formalatic tough... heard one song and you've heard most :p

feral drum
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too bad, shit head, many sounds produced in the metal genre use electronic instruments

novel umbra
deft bloom
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not metal

novel umbra
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so slipknot switches from real metal to not metal

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on the same album

feral drum
novel umbra
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while being nu metal all the way through

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smh it is ndh

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not metal

lucid brook
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any skyforest fans? or green bm fans in general here?

feral drum
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I wouldn't particularly say Rammstein's metal to begin with either

fallow bronze
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deft bloom
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rammstein is not metal

lucid brook
novel umbra
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ndh

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would not say reznor is metal tbh

deft bloom
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also if it's too popular it's not metal anymore

feral drum
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the fuck is that logic?

novel umbra
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we opreate on hipster logic now

lucid brook
fallow bronze
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now its just trolling 😄

deft bloom
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metal

fallow bronze
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ah.. noise

novel umbra
feral drum
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yet i can hear an e-guitar right off the bat

novel umbra
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on youtube

feral drum
novel umbra
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not metal anymore

deft bloom
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it gets a pass because it's so old

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and some metalhead has listened to it 5 million times

lucid brook
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it's too popular dude, not metal anymore

deft bloom
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metal

feral drum
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you realize a view is saved in your browser cookie? If you view it multiple times using the same PC it still counts as a single view

novel umbra
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Neue Deutsche Härte (German: [ˈnɔʏə ˈdɔʏtʃə ˈhɛʁtə]; lit. "New German Hardness"), sometimes abbreviated as NDH, is a subgenre of rock music that developed in Germany and Austria during the early-to-mid 1990s and during the early 2000s. Alluding to the style of Neue Deutsche Welle, the term was coined by the music press after the 1995 release of ...

deft bloom
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true metal enjoyers clear their cookies

lucid brook
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i agree

feral drum
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guess i'm no metal head anymore

deft bloom
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it's okay

novel umbra
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it is only about making a bs segregation

lucid brook
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anybody listening to the track i sent?

novel umbra
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realistically it is more about the different origins and influences

novel umbra
lucid brook
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at least you are honest

novel umbra
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listening to it now

deft bloom
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I have a tab open for it, does that count?

novel umbra
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sure is a song

feral drum
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well, i'll keep listening to Slipknot, 5FDP, Avenged Sevenfold, etc.

novel umbra
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sorry, not metal

deft bloom
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sorry too mainstream dogekek

novel umbra
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someone on the internet said so

feral drum
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idc what a gatekeeping troll claims to be metal or not

deft bloom
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nah but seriously all these genres and subgenres are giving me a headache, music is just music. if it sounds good then it's good

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feral drum
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HELL NO!

fallow bronze
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hehe

novel umbra
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least exploited idol band

orchid prism
deft bloom
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lul babymetal toured finland so they get a pass

fallow bronze
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feral drum
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Guess we have to establish 1 thing here for sure: Baby Metal ain't metal at all

vital wyvern
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babymetal is fantastic and I won't suffer anyone talking shit about em

orchid prism
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It is your prerogative to be incorrect of course.

deft bloom
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oh hey and anything djent isn't metal obviously

novel umbra
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isn't the entire point of metal to have weird combinations with other music genres?

deft bloom
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no, it's to worship satan and burn churches

novel umbra
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like a certain someone you are referencing

deft bloom
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a literal nazi

vital wyvern
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now this discussion is getting interesting

orchid prism
vital wyvern
deft bloom
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honestly that's why I don't listen to burzum at all

novel umbra
vital wyvern
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it's ok to be wrong

novel umbra
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seems to work for a lot of people

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why can't you not admit to just like other stuff

lucid brook
novel umbra
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I personally don't like it

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doesn't mean I say it doesn't work

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it clearly does

deft bloom
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if you have seen any norwegian black metal documentaries they're really all a different breed

novel umbra
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for me personally "true" metal has too little variation

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makes it quite boring

deft bloom
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like how Dead killed himself and Euronymous just took pictures of the corpse and moved in some props and made a few poses with it

orchid prism
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Gonna move this over to #📻│music since it is hardly game adjecent at this point.

feral drum
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ok, can we drop that weird ass racism discussion and shit? I'm enjoying metal to relieve some stress tbh and because of the high energy many metal bands emit through their songs.

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yay, finally a music channel

orchid prism
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It's been there for ages. Y'all don't use the onboarding!

vital wyvern
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reason why onboarding sucks

feral drum
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and it's in the wrong area of channels

feral ferry
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Fuck me this keyboard is hard to use

orchid prism
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Discussion is optional 😄

deft bloom
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mmm maybe that could be changed to encourage actual discussions

feral drum
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music's a general thing tho. Everyone has their favorite song and taste of music to listen to

orchid prism
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Now both channels have 5. Skadoosh 😛

feral ferry
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Not everyone even listens to music let alone wants to discuss it

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#938161568565301309 needs to become the de-facto music discussion channel, cause that's where the real music discussions go down dogenek

still spire
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Not everyone wants to listen about Starfield, let alone discuss it.

deft bloom
feral ferry
deft bloom
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daughter rules

fallow bronze
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only if you care about that band

feral ferry
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Daughter discussions there have ended a while ago

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Now it's Ben Howard, whoever they are

orchid prism
deft bloom
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can't make money on a remaster down the line if you just update something shrug_weeb

deft bloom
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but if the remaster is just the 60fps unlock

novel umbra
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the last of us part 2 moment

still spire
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Yeah ND revealed they are working a Remaster of TLOU part 2 for PS5

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TLOU Part 2 runs at 4K60FPS on the PS5, the fuck they gonna do?

novel umbra
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the last of us part 1 moment DANG

deft bloom
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ray tracing dogenek

fringe salmon
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Very hard if the engine isn’t set up for it

novel umbra
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how much map would there have to be though

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shoehorning a nearly endless open world into a random engine

fallow bronze
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who cares about goign everywhere on planets anyway

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sure that star citizen can do it fairly well... doesnt mean its a good idea

fringe salmon
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That’s not the only issue lol starfield isn’t build up exactly like Minecraft in single blocks

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No that makes it a lot easier in Minecraft

fading spade
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GPD Win Mini

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Oculink port???

fallow bronze
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that looks like a display port

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but way too small?

fading spade
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yeh

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He said Oculink port, I assume for VR headsets?

small comet
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OCuLink*

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basically PCIe

fading spade
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oh?

small comet
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SFF-8612

fallow bronze
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never heard of it, neat

small comet
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i mean its sort of a server environment thing

fringe salmon
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At first but now handhelds are using it more and more

hot spire
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Which sucks because it is t a robust connector

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It's going to be like micohdmi

rare idol
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I cant stop playing with my 60HE ù

fringe salmon
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Yeah well most handheld spam from the Chinese oems also aren’t robust so nothing lost really

shadow light
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the thing is, sometimes the development takes long long years, and when the (possibly outdated) engine was first made some things were not possible, and architecture was set up for different things, then as development moves on, you get more and more features and some just become impossible without rewriting most of the engine, which is also impossible. So it's not as easy as "just code it, Minecraft has that feature". Minecraft was build ground up with the ideas in mind and made custom for that

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afaik Fallout76 basically used a 2011 engine, which was a modded/rewritten engine from 1997

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same for Skyrim and the rest of the games in that era

fringe salmon
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id tech 7 shares the name but is basically a brand new engine tailor made for doom eternal

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id tech 7 for starfield would not work

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being a software developer that has listend to the devs talking about what changes they made in the engine and what tricks they used to make it run really well for the game they wanted to make

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id tech 5 was iirc the engine made to suit the Cell procressor in the Ps3 to split up tasks more efficently and run great on that

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that doesnt mean they are a better engine or just work for the usecase lol

trim rock
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You gonna ignore that for Rage 2 they didn't use id tech?

fringe salmon
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creation engine is pretty bad I agree

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that doesnt mean you can ram in id tech X and have it be better

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I'm saying there is more to a game than just loading a world so without havin the engine code that is something you can guess at best

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what if the loading would work but the PBR, GI or other optical things would not work with what they are going for, should they still switch

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if the engine is so flawless why would they not just make it commercial and put unity and unreal out of a job

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why are people still using different engines when you can do everything in the same engine then

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and if you look at wolfenstein you will find the gameplay and all is very similar to doom

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but fi you look at the maps of the games they are quite similar, you have a lot of areas that are inside building, very narrow essentially, lightsource distribution etc. is similar so likely both use a forward renderer to have more anti aliasing options instead etc.

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At Gamescom 2023 we got to play a brief section of S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl's opening segment. After his trudge through GSC Game World's new and even more brutal wasteland, Dave and Chris talk about how the game is keeping the heart and soul of S.T.A.L.K.E.R alive, while bringing the cult classic series to modern systems and modern p...

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I reserved Voices of the Void exclusively for Jobel streams, but I guess I'll try it out

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@novel umbra

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This is getting difficulty modes apparently

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I kinda agree with Joel in the fact that this game going "combat mechanics" is not a good direction

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Being in the woods with hell knows what haunting and stalking you, without being able to fight back is the whole charm

feral ferry
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Don't like those NPC movements

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Some just move in weird flocks

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Contrary to what, line formation?

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Safer in column, if the guy behind you gets stabbed, at least you'll get a warning before you both get stabbed

slim token
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police won't have that issue

feral ferry
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Sounds like good advice, better you than me

slim token
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me when i realize the police's presence is doing the job

feral ferry
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Again?

fringe salmon
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the last one made it 2 instead of 4 weeks

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so now its gone fully

feral ferry
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What I meant is that 1$ trial is gone yet again

fringe salmon
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yeah, it wasnt really gone before though just nerfed

feral ferry
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They can't figure out how to get people to stay, but there's no growth in numbers probably if the trial doesn't exist

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Or maybe it's just pre-Starfield preparations

fringe salmon
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nah its long time coming

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they need to up prices to keep it sustainable

deft bloom
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lies

feral ferry
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I have my doubts a gamepass model is sustainable

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Maybe for a console-only gamepass then sure, Sony can probably pull it off

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But Sony's gamepass isn't even including all game launches, not even close

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Xbox's model I have a feeling is really suffering

fallow bronze
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Gamepass is a long term kind of thing, cheap now to get ppl to get used to it, and the steadily increase the pricing.

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It's like Uber pricing. First super cheap to use. But now decently expensive

hot spire
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?

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pretty sure game pass installs count as sales

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that would be very confidential to ms

severe compass
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Yeah I think Microsoft's ultimate dream is to kill games sales in favour of the pass, balloon the price massively, and have total control over our games. Just kill older titles to hopefully force players onto newer titles full of microtransactions

fading spade
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ok...this is kinda neat

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144Hz VRR display

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They are making AR glasses too???

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Its going to be using Windows though, so all the not controller friendly aspects of that included

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OK OK LENOVO
Being able to use the right controller as a mouse is very clever

fading spade
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O.o

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You got Lenovo contacts?!

still spire
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Slow mode? Still cause that music thing earlier?

still spire
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Awesome, the crypts in this game will look insane with pathtracing

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Game makes use of a lot of torches and stuff for lighting

still spire
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Get it on PC, that way you won't have to buy it Twice

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Reminds me of that other retro RPG released recently on Gamepass too

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The one with the mechs

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Oh I don't think that was it

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I said a retro RPG like it

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Chained Echoes

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That's ithttps://store.steampowered.com/app/1229240/Chained_Echoes/

Chained Echoes is a story-driven JRPG where a group of heroes travel around the vast continent of Valandis to bring an end to the war between its three kingdoms.In the course of their journey, they will travel through a wide array of diverse landscapes spanning from wind-tanned plateaus and exotic archipelagos to sunken cities and forgotten dung...

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4059

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novel umbra
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that is part of the fun

severe compass
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The Creation engine isn't simply patched together with duck tape, it is entirely made of tape

orchid prism
still spire
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Held together by spittle

novel umbra
orchid prism
still spire
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Due to the latest FFXIV event you get a new mount - You, you turn into the Phoenix

severe compass
orchid prism
fringe salmon
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Smh newer players not knowing that phoenix is one of the raid bosses from the first raids in ARR

fringe salmon
orchid prism
fallow bronze
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2 years, that seems a bit much

orchid prism
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Two to TWELVE

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If I had to take a guess, he'll land somewhere in the middle due to selling clearly stolen property, potential theft on top and those other charges for drug and weapon possession.

Definitely a case of play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

deft bloom
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take possible revenue from the capitalists -> JAIL FOR LIFE

still spire
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Meanwhile rapists often get 3-5 years

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But this dude stole from a rich person so

deft bloom
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ytep

orchid prism
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Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god.

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Your run of the mill pyramid scheme boss, won't ever seen the inside of a jail cell.

still spire
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Everyones all happy bout Trump maybe getting jail time...and sure, but have they ever seen the p[ictures / videos of rich white people jail?

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It's nicer than 99% of Americans homes

deft bloom
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more like home confiment

mossy juniper
still spire
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Sadly it just doesn't really mean much at all

mossy juniper
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becoming a nihilist is lame

fading spade
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Valve is fixing issues with the game before it's even announced ...gosh dang!

fringe salmon
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Publisher probably tried it and told valve it crashes on steam deck

fading spade
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Yeh

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LOL WTF

feral ferry
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And I hope you don't take what that tweet said as truth, cause that's just someone snuffing bullshit and spewing it on twitter

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Minimalistic menus are a bad thing now apparently

fading spade
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Even his own game has a title screen more basic than this

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:') did he not give a shit about that game? XD

feral ferry
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No clue who the guy is but if that's the things he believes in then idgaf about the titles they worked on

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It's prolly MTX'd to hell menu with a shop popping up all the time all the new deals

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Battle pass too

fading spade
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he used to work at Blizzard then left and formed his own game dev company and got fired from being CEO a few years later when he spent most of the company's money on a bus

feral ferry
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Blizzard
Yeah, sounds about right

fading spade
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yup

feral ferry
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He got his ass handed to him with that tweet anyways by Pete Hines

fading spade
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LOL

feral ferry
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@jassem73 @Grummz Or they designed what they wanted and that’s been our menu for years and was one of the first things we settled on.

Having an opinion is one thing. Questioning out a developer’s “care” because you would have done it different is highly unprofessional coming from another “dev”

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fading spade
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hehehehe xd

feral ferry
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I like singleplayer game menus

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They just have the important shit only

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Play/resume, load, settings, quit

fading spade
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yup!

orchid prism
trim rock
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Oh Grummz

still spire
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I mean TLOU absolutely is the product of a rushed dev, and GoT is basically a AC game

feral ferry
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What's up with the slowmode anyways

orchid prism
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The slowmode was a joke from yesterday with the music channel.

feral ferry
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Name one thing wrong with Skyrim's menu?

feral ferry
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I will accept 1 of two arguments unless you come up with something that I haven't thought of

novel umbra
feral ferry
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Is great

orchid prism
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The same thing that Bethesda gets wrong every time. Controller, Playstation style with a terrible menu navigation, a ton of wasted space that could be used for a much more intuitive UI.

And it's just dull and ugly.

novel umbra
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no

feral ferry
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So, not a good argument

novel umbra
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it has a weird sound artifact

trim rock
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Mods

novel umbra
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that made me think someone opened my door

feral ferry
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It feels like it was designed for a controller

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Mouse doesn't work well

novel umbra
feral ferry
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But I like the design of it in general, if it only worked properly with mouse

novel umbra
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I think I mainly navigated it with my keyboard

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but not sure

orchid prism
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Aside from the little rune detail, the menu is something a high schooler could do in Photoshop with a random fantasy font in 2 seconds.

Just no thought or love put into it.

feral ferry
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Mouse navigation isn't great

novel umbra
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I am also used to primarily using my keyboard for 2d stuff so idk

feral ferry
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Which I don't really mind much but it's a tiny gripe

novel umbra
trim rock
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It's pretty much a must to get UI mods in these bethy games to have a decent experience

novel umbra
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not saying it is a good menu

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but the menu alone is no indicator of the game

feral ferry
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Idk, I like the menu

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But yeah it feels like it was designed for controllers

novel umbra
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outside 21:9 scaling

still spire
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Vex could easily pass for Todd Howard sisters cousins nephews child.

novel umbra
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but would not fit the theme

deft bloom
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SPACE IS EMPTY YOU FOOLS

nimble current
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menus for the most part hasn't changed all that much since the 90s

orchid prism
novel umbra
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peepoShrug imo needs to be quite minimal

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unless you mean the image in the bacground

deft bloom
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this is one of the worst

nimble current
deft bloom
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not a start menu but this is also one of the worst UI's ever had the displeasure of using

orchid prism
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Extreme form over function.

still spire
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Half-Life 2's menu was just a map running in the backround, I remember people disabling it for performance reasons

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It was pretty unique for the time

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It changed depending where you were

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God, even with it's shortcomings, I love Source

deft bloom
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the idea behind that is actually really good, kind of a reminder of what you were doing even before you load your save

still spire
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At the time, Source was incredible. Ahead of idTech for sure.

fading spade
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Source is a great engine

still spire
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And Unreal absolutely

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Valve just only really cared about themselves using the engine, that's all

deft bloom
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the beauty of source is that it just runs well and achieves decent looking stuff without being a resource hog, except for water in s2 I guess

still spire
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In terms of lighting, sure

severe compass
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Hmmm, had Valve perhaps developed the engine like UE, perhaps Source2 could have been a competitor to UE5, and unity on the market?

severe compass
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Sounds like Source 2 was a mistake, a shame

still spire
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Source 2 is pretty incredible

ashen lark
severe compass
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Two complete stranger two different opinions on Source 2, now I have no idea what to believe!

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No but seriously is Source 2 good or nah?

feral ferry
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Source 2 is great

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It's an engine specifically designed for a purpose, and a type of games

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However can be easily tweaked to do a lot more

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Has a well documented library, easy to work with

glacial linden
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Anyone playing armoured core

feral ferry
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Great physics engine

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All facts point at Source 2 beinga genuinely amazing engine, even if it is about 7 years late

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Although, problem is the company that developed it, they might be geniuses, but they don't release much

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Where's HL3?

trim rock
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Wonder if Valve's just gonna push people who want to make games with it to s&box

feral ferry
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Do they own the company who makes S&Box?

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Valve loves people to use their engine, looking at Black Mesa and other projects

lucid brook
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no valve doesn't own facepunch

deft bloom
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yet

feral ferry
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Valve can prolly buy out Microsoft if they wanted to havo

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Nah, that's a joke

lucid brook
feral ferry
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But they can buy out a lot of big players

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"game development toolkit"

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So how's it any different to source?

still spire
hot spire
hot spire
feral ferry
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Armored Core looks like a mobile game ngl

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Not much important story

hot spire
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That is what is taking s&box so long for open beta

feral ferry
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Go in, do missions, get cash, buy parts and other stuff

hot spire
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The map tools are still alpha from valve

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It's one of the few downsides of how valve is organized

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No one wants to polish the map tools

orchid prism
feral ferry
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What's a mimimi

fallow bronze
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lol, no access

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whole website is gone

orchid prism
bleak pike
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Who?

still spire
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Yeah it's the first time I've ever heard of them or any of their games

orchid prism
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They make a very particular style of games.

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Desperados? Robing Hood? Shadow Tactics?

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Fucking COMMANDOS? 😄

vapid lintel
small comet
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but the studio name is odd

orchid prism
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They took over from the long since defunct original developer and kept making this kind of game. 😦

small comet
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pretty sure commandos and desperados arent even the same studio

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originally

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ones pyro studios and the others one was

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uh

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some blue logo

orchid prism
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a particular kind of game

small comet
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ye just clarifying as you stated just defunct original developer

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seems they took over a few different developers projects

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actually cant see commandos in their portfolio

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basically just shadow tactis, shadow gambit and desperados 3

orchid prism
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Yeah Commandos never received a revival iirc.

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They did Desperados then carried on with their own IPs in the genre.

small comet
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well the remaster in hd but thats it

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but didnt desperados 3 flop

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doesnt seem so... still pretty pricey

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someone on steam got real butthurt though lol ```> Start a mission.

See a bunch of rocks you can drop on a couple of guards.
Too bad, there's 2 other guards looking at those rocks, so have to take them out first.
Bummer! There's sniper looking over BOTH of those guards at the same time.
Take out that sniper, BUT WAIT! There's another sniper on the opposite tower. And they looking at each other.
To get to the second sniper you have to clear out other compound full of enemies below him.
Clear the compound below the sniper just so you can get close to him.
You take out of those snipers at the same time after 10> failed attempts trying to time it perfectly so the passing patrol below would be looking away.
Then you go after the guards looking at the rocks (just like normal guards do), also try timing it perfectly with patrols routes.
Get caught by a random dude chilling behind a rock that you missed looking over BOTH OF THOSE GUARDS. And you guessed it, one of "Rock" guards occasionally looks back at him.
After 50> failed attempts you manage to perfectly time every kill with patrol routes, making sure that other guards for 0.5 seconds look in the other direction, hoping that pathfinding is not gonna break once again getting you stuck in the tree or a random rock.
Finally go for the rocks, and drop them on some random guards that weren't even on your way.
Congratulations you just finished 10% of the level.

Biggest waste of my time.```

orchid prism
feral ferry
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Even the day 1 patch got leaked?

orchid prism
still spire
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I remember COmmandos from like the late 90s

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About it

feral ferry
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Okay, now THIS is the REAL Armored Core 6

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Step back FromCockware

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Bunny Wunny Bot is here

shadow light
hot spire
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oh shit

feral ferry
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Ayo, they figured out how to ledge grab

hot spire
feral ferry
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Maybe they will finally learn how to code ladders

feral ferry
hot spire
feral ferry
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That manual is for sale and unclassified

hot spire
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you can literally look at the two

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and they are different

feral ferry
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That manual concerns an out-of-service retired plane

hot spire
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typhoons are still in service

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they entered service in 2003

feral ferry
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That specific one isn't

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DA 7 is out of service in Italian air force

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Anyways there's a difference between classified and restricted

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Classified is what people keep thinking about, only for military usage

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Restricted, which is what some DA.7 documents are, is a weird limbo between "available for public" and "partially classified"

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Like, it's out there, you can have it and read it, share it prolly as well, nobody will care

hot spire
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it is classifed

feral ferry
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Not to mention that document was literally just on how to pilot the plane, nothing on technical specifications of avionics

hot spire
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thats just not highly

hot spire
feral ferry
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Calling restricted as classified isn't really correct

hot spire
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yes it is correct

feral ferry
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It's literally out in the public, and available online

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So much for classified

hot spire
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so

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if i leak nuke secrects to the internet they dont become unclassified

feral ferry
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"fourth level of classification under the North Atlantic Treaty, requires safeguards and protection from public release and disclosure. This category does not apply to information classified NATO Confidential, NATO SECRET or NATO COSMIC TOP SECRET."

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It's not classified, and is to be released to public

hot spire
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ol

feral ferry
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First 4 words do not describe classified, but classification

hot spire
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"protection from public release and disclosure." you "is to be released to public"

feral ferry
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Absolutely everything is classified in a way

hot spire
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can you not read?

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how can you read "requires safeguards and protection from public release and disclosure." and then immediately say "is to be released to public"

feral ferry
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Cause it's literally out there

hot spire
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again

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if i leak nuke secrets

feral ferry
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Half of the damn things that leak on War Thunder forums are restricted documentation

hot spire
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the dont become unclassified

feral ferry
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No, they don't

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And that doesn't mean you just disclosed secrets either

hot spire
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its just as illegal to share leaked classified information as it is to leak new stuff

feral ferry
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So you won't get prosecuted

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It's not classified

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b. Access to NATO classified information requires a final DoD personnel clearance (except for RESTRICTED) at the equivalent level and a NATO briefing as described in section D., below. A security clearance is not required for access to NATO RESTRICTED information. (See also Section D, below.)

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NATO Classified is what you will get heavily punished for

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NATO Restricted does not require you to have any security clearance

hot spire
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"Though similar safeguards are applied to FOR
OFFICIAL USE ONLY, OFFICIAL USE ONLY, or
SENSITIVE, BUT UNCLASSIFIED information, NR is a
security classification"

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"The violation/compromise will be handled in
the same manner as US classified
information."

feral ferry
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Ok, and what does either of those prove?

hot spire
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it is 100% illegal to share that manual in any nato country

feral ferry
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Nobody said that NATO Restricted is not a security classification

hot spire
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because its classifed

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so

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it is a leak of classified aircraft information

feral ferry
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The whole argument was is that NATO Restricted is not equivalent to NATO Classified in any way

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And the security around those 2 varies wildly

hot spire
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nato classified dosent exist

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nato has 4 security classifications

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COSMIC Top Secret, NATO Secret, NATO Confidential, and NATO Restrcited

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all of these are classified information

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leaking or sharing ANY of them is illegal

feral ferry
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Security safeguards are similar to those of FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY or SENSITIVE, BUT UNCLASSIFIED information

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SENSITIVE, BUT UNCLASSIFIED

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Nothing will happen to anyone if they own or share this data as long as they are not an employee in a military organization

slim token
hot spire
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the all caps are part of the sentence, they are classifcations

feral ferry
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It's not about classifications

hot spire
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"FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY" and "SENSITIVE, BUT UNCLASSIFIED" are classifications

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they dont mean restriced is unclassified

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you havent shown anything that says its legal to share

feral ferry
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It's whether or not NATO Restricted is penalized under the same exact protocols as NATO Confidential, Secret, or TOp Scret

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And it's literally not

hot spire
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you know even things that are marked UNCLASSIFIED are illegal to share without approval right?

feral ferry
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Not illegal

hot spire
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100%

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you have to have approval to release or share stuff marked NATO UNCLASSIFIED

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it will be unmarked or marked FOR GENERAL RELEASE

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if you can freely share it

feral ferry
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That's the difference, and exactly what I said, you are ever going to be penalized only if Restricted is shared by you as a military personnel

hot spire
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you have 0% knowlage of how information secruity works

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nope

quiet vault
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someone wanna try to know for sure

hot spire
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its illegal for anyone to do

feral ferry
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Non-military personnel are under no obligation to not share restricted documentation

hot spire
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i suggest you talk with a lawyer before you try then

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please read up on 18 US Code 798

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or the equlivant in your country.

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the DOD considers NATO Restriced classified, thus its illegal for ANY person in the us to share or retain

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without authorizatrion

quiet vault
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so leaking national stuff is treason

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for any person

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but is nato stuff law in every nato country?

feral ferry
hot spire
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i dont know of many countrys that allow relase of classified information

quiet vault
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just looked up how it is in germany

feral ferry
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I wonder if I still have a bunch of U.S Classified materials saved from that one guy who somehow got access to a catalogue full of classified information

hot spire
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its just that non nato countries may not reconised nato classisfied information as classified

quiet vault
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i could ask someone

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but its weird asking that lol

hot spire
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'same as us

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germany consideres NATO Restriced the same as thier "VS-NUR FÜR DEN DIENSTGEBRAUCH"

quiet vault
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so the least safe

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lol

hot spire
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still illegal to share

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but it expires automaticly in 30 years

quiet vault
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ye just dont do it

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unless you get good money

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the 4 nato levels seem to correlate to the levels of most countries

hot spire
#

thats how nato works

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90% chance nato copied us levels

feral ferry
hot spire
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and then everyone copied nato

quiet vault
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any cosmic top secret leakers in chat rn

feral ferry
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Pretty sure these are proper U.S Classified as well

quiet vault
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from work?

feral ferry
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Or I might have deleted em

hot spire
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I wouldn't admit that freely lol

feral ferry
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Was about Ukraine, stockpiles and unit dislocations

hot spire
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Unless you don't like freedom

feral ferry
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Interesting stuff

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Tbf I don't think I have em anymore

feral ferry
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Although it's interesting the shit they don't want you to know sometimes

quiet vault
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the Person i know also said that he gets like random russian traffic at his home

feral ferry
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It's from where that random 20 year old Guardsman decided to leak documents on his discord server

static island
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dumbest leaker ever

feral ferry
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I have no clue why the idiot did it

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Like, read it, it's fine, and don't give it to the enemy

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Why share it online

bleak pike
quiet vault
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what are laws when you have to win an argument on the internet

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😃

feral ferry
quiet vault
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we all know whats more important

feral ferry
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Ngl I still have my doubts the information he leaked was even real

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Which is weird considering the classification

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The information there, considering what happened since then, does not depict reality

quiet vault
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The Wooting tkl release date should be a nato secret

bleak pike
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It is a NATO secret

quiet vault
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did u just leak the existence of it

orchid prism
shadow light
orchid prism
feral ferry
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Mansen, what was that

orchid prism
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Copied the post from another Discord instead of the YT link. Because that's Discord for yuoui.

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And mieyiy. Damn phone 😄

fallow bronze
feral ferry
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Early

fringe salmon
feral ferry
#

I am honestly, kind of excited for a new Nintendo console

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Now that the technology is really there to make great handhelds

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I wonder what they can come up with

fringe salmon
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hahahahha thinking nintendo wont use gimped outdated tech again

feral ferry
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They definitely will

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But if it's gimped outdated tech, exploits might be available

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And Nintendo is all about those homebrews

quiet vault
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atleast its newer outdated tech

feral ferry
#

Again we kind of know what SoC they will be using

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But I hope that old rumour is old enough to be updated internally into a newer SoC

quiet vault
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13900ks and 4090

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its gonna be thick

sudden prawn
fallow bronze
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Just a newer Nvidia so.

sudden prawn
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Yeah, we're due for a new Shield too at some point

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You got a breakdown for amd?

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Radeon at 4% oof

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Console sales definitely slowed down

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Kek

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Gamers don't have near infinite r&d funds

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Damn

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My work only provides me with a workstation laptop with a T1000

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Where does he work at

quiet vault
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i love nvida

sudden prawn
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Ah

bleak pike
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meme or real/

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source?

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ty

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friend does not believe me lol

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i also linked nvidias financial report directly

fringe salmon
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It’s what’s called a bubble

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Going up fast then down after a while but still around

ashen lark
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10% tax for a company making 6.8B$ in profit 😍

bleak pike
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@feral ferry

feral ferry
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Surely with no discord channel to run you'd actually be informed for once? dogenek

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So, apparently since the publisher Wargaming has split off its Russian studio into its own entity cause of the war

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Lesta, the fractured arm, has been starting to do things on their own independently

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In the World of Warships side of things, apparently Lesta has been running weekly giveaways

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Where they give away... cans of fish

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State of russian economy, they give away fish for a game giveaway

fringe salmon
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@young crow how much for one fish

ashen lark
fringe salmon
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yup that is my expectation for this too, AI just like the internet will stay, but not at its current hype

ashen lark
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I mean it was a thing for tens of years just the chat bots caused a huge hype

bleak pike
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seems like Starfield is demanding

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at least review copies

fringe salmon
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it demands your money

feral ferry
fringe salmon
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mhm

sudden prawn
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my 2080 is the reccomended gpu, but I'm still doubting the performance

feral ferry
# fringe salmon mhm

You can't just completely ignore just cause you dislike Bethesda that the game has a lot of positive early feedback coming in

fringe salmon
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i dont dislike them I have 0 faith in them

feral ferry
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I hope you will give the new game a try, at least via gamepass or something like that

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Or not, who cares really

fringe salmon
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will watch streams of it probably

ashen lark
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I wonder if it will run through game porting toolkit

ashen lark
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Skyrim works by removing the launcher dogekek

feral ferry
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Hell no it won't

ashen lark
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Well stray works

feral ferry
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You plan to run it on a crappy APU?

fringe salmon
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man you think they can make a game that a toolkit can port? dogekek

feral ferry
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5FPS maybe at 720p

feral ferry
fringe salmon
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i love a good turnaround story

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but bethesda making buggy games is like intel making 4 core cpus for a decade

feral ferry
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Ngl, makes you wonder how would it feel to go through a gas giant

pure bear
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at some point you could stand on it

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but the pressure would be something else

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maybe a carbon fiber sub would help

deft bloom
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sassy

sudden prawn
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imagine showing up to a warhammer shop with the 1/6th scale

feral drum
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i could vomit...

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The best Drift GT 86 build's so terrible

deft bloom
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cute looking vomit at least

feral drum
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I don't get why people in FH5 even try drift builds. Like most of them don't even know how to use the wheel angle tuning properly

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try my stuff if you want a GT 86 tune that refuses to go straight

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Creator: Nyumix33

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or an RX-8 tune that refuses to go sideways

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i can convert it into FH4 too if you want

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just keep in mind that these tunings can be a bit extreme

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i mean extreme in terms of their purpose. I.e. the RX-8 is basically glued to the street

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i can drive through corners with full speed where the brake assistance basically screams at me to brake

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and the NPCs at Unbeatable are like: Yo, wtf is going on?

hot spire
willow quiver
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Chill w that

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Slow mode in game talk?

hot spire
willow quiver
hot spire
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smh steam why youre cdn so slow

sudden prawn
hot spire
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prem

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im gonna get teh dlc anyway lol

sudden prawn
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I just hope my 2080 can keep up

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If Thursday performance isn't too bad, I'll upgrade my game pass version

hot spire
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1070ti is miniium

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i have 1080ti

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lol

severe compass
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I still think anyone purchasing and playing a Bethesda game on Day one is playing hot potato with a live grenade.
I mean can't even wait 24 hours after launch to see if that might've accidentally added a computer bricking bug?

hot spire
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says someone who hasnt

severe compass
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???

hot spire
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ive played them all startingf with morrowind day one

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only one that sucked day 1 is nv

severe compass
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I mean do you lose anything waiting 24 hours?

hot spire
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i mean i dont gain anything either

still spire
hot spire
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the balance is borked with them

trim rock
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Decryption is probably gonna take longer than download x d

still spire
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AC6's biggest issue is somehow being the worst camera in any game ever designed

feral drum
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did my best, but it feels like FH4 is missing something. I've nailed down the speed, the acceleration, even handling's better on paper, but the car just doesn't wanna stick to the road as i'd like it

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it feels more like the RX-8 in FH4 is for drifting only, especiall given its perks there while the FH5 version is closer to the real thing

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ok, DEFINITELY a different feeling in terms of handling

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like they're almost the same settings and yet the FH5 version's GLUED to the road, even at high speeds

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the FH4 version likes to go sideways with too much steering at 100+ km/h

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still sticky tho, but it's like i've tried to mod a drift car into a street racer

novel umbra
trim rock
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I sure like looking up and down with L2 and R2

still spire
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Yes

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It's worse than any PS1 games camera ::P

novel umbra
orchid prism
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I love how it isn't just a naive misunderstanding of what a gas giant is.

He doubles down so hard in the comments.

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BRUH LET ME LAND ON GAS. I WANT TO FLY INSIDE OF THE PRESSURE ZONE.

novel umbra
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I mean you can land on a gas giant

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they have a solid mass inside

orchid prism
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Do they though? Isn't it all just gas held together by extreme pressure?

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(I flunked astrology clearly)

novel umbra
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which would "quickly" form a solid core