🎮│game

[hot spire]

phosphor is radiation caused luminensece

Ie CRT

the irony being phosphorus isnt a phosphor

[willow quiver]

evil west is literally if doom eternal and elden ring had a baby

[fading spade]

https://youtu.be/hAEhXOQGhQA

the clash are art style between the game and the UI and the character models is so strange

[bleak pike]

@fringe salmon because the API is down as said yesterday this is what we have to do to swap weps from other characters

[fringe salmon]

yeah see I dont understand how games get away with shit design just because mods can fix it

mods should enhance stuff not fix basic stuff

[bleak pike]

Isn't really a mod tbf

[feral ferry]

You are threading some shallow waters

Not a word about my game

[bleak pike]

Bungie just had an open source API which allows people to use it.

[fringe salmon]

I mean if you say its something using the API it seems to be a 3rd party tool

so its not part of the game

[bleak pike]

They also suggest dim in game.

[fringe salmon]

so its a mod

[bleak pike]

But its not modifying anything :p

[fringe salmon]

if they suggest it they should instead just make it part of the game tf

well it modifies what you have to do to swap your things no?

[bleak pike]

Its Bungie, it took them years just to add loadouts which btw isn;t going to be out for another 7 months?

[fringe salmon]

sounds like pretty bad issues internalyl somewhere then

[bleak pike]

Depends, API only lets modifying when in orbit or social space, it can still move items around, just not modify/equip.

[fringe salmon]

but thats the same reason I also wont play WoW because that shit is unplayable without 3rd party stuff

[bleak pike]

They basically said its the engine but they have been upgrading it over time, but ye i agree.

[fringe salmon]

if they can expose an api and people can do it, then you can do it inside the game itself already

tf kinda logic is that

[bleak pike]

This is why i also say Bungie are just lazy about their Linux response to.

[bleak pike]

idk but it took us years just to be able to claim bounties via mobile lol

[fringe salmon]

no clue what that is

[bleak pike]

And it also took years for them to add 50 extra vault spaces

bounties = dalies/weeklies

https://mrpl.me/S47020b_rf62.jpg

[fringe salmon]

yea sounds like a mess

[bleak pike]

whole api is down so i cant even claim bounties via the app

meaning i need to visit vendors

[fringe salmon]

sounds like the issue is that doing dailies itself is a shit system if people dont even want to do them the supposed way

[bleak pike]

pretty much

[fading spade]

RIP good game UI design ;-;

MW22022's menu is top tier garbage, overcluttered and a confusing mess

Black Ops menu was amazing, its in game and sets the tone immeidately

[nimble current]

Destiny 2 menu system was traumatizing

[fading spade]

and its interactive, you can look around the room you are in and shit

[fading spade]

yeh... I hate that game UI

[velvet pasture]

.

[fading spade]

in game its fine but the menus suck

[bleak pike]

oh god dont remind me.

[bleak pike]

it used to be worse xo

[fading spade]

o.o

I just saw a video about NFS Unbound

I dont get their strange clash of art styles

The character models, and the particles and visual affects in game are like this neon cell shaded look

and then the world inself is trying to be as realistic as it can

so you got this cartoony cell shaded driver inside a car that tries to look as life like as possible

while handrawn colored wings come out of the sides of the car when you go a big jump

and colorful circles appears around the wheels when you are going fast

its fucking odd

[hot spire]

I mean it's there to tell you it isn't a racing sim, it's arcade

[orchid prism]

The fuck

[willow quiver]

[nimble current]

liking this patch so far

[hot spire]

?

[nimble current]

valheim mistlands

[hot spire]

ah

[fading spade]

W A N K E L

[barren pewter]

DORITO ROTARY ENGINE

[fading spade]

OOOOOOOFFFF
SPILL THE TEA, SIS XD

(dishonored spoiler)

[barren pewter]

why does it remind me of deathloop?

oh right

same devs, almost the same game

[fading spade]

I've never played Deathloop

[barren pewter]

you're missing out

it's honestly...the latest version of dishonoured tbh

[fading spade]

Oo

Didn't know it was made by Arkane

[barren pewter]

Arkane Lyon 🤢

Fr🤢nch

[fading spade]

Slightly better than Bri'ish

[barren pewter]

no

other way around

as far as worst and most vile creatures to least

it's fr🤢nch, br🤢tish, h🤢ngarians

and then everything else

[fading spade]

everything
:')

[barren pewter]

most vile creatures

not like they're human or anything

[fading spade]

Xd

I'm dumb

Never noticed the blood on the logo before

[barren pewter]

you have a steam deck?

[fading spade]

Yes

[barren pewter]

I'd get one for gaming on the go

but then again

I have a macbook

[fading spade]

More games on deck though xd

[barren pewter]

I have Metro, Bioshock and minecraft

would like RE8 as well, but...I ain't fuckin paying 55 CAD for that

[fading spade]

Is so big compared to Switch
But a fuck ton nicer to use and hold 💜💜

[barren pewter]

especially when I have it on steam with all DLC

[fringe salmon]

you also have the critically acclaimed MMORPG Final Fantasy 14 on mac

[barren pewter]

...

ew

wtf is wrong with you quin

[fringe salmon]

?

[fading spade]

And on Deck !

Assuming I understand roman numerals properly

XIV is 14 right?

[fringe salmon]

yes, gaben plays it to heal in his sons raid group

[fading spade]

Xd oh

[barren pewter]

dad 100

[fading spade]

Oh
It's not verified

It's Playable

Small text
Oh lol

[barren pewter]

and I thought my GTA Online playtime was something to be ashamed of

I only had 75 days worth of playtime in it over several years, about half a decade

[fading spade]

[fringe salmon]

I mean couple days of afk time by now probably

but still so much stuff to do

[fading spade]

Wait....

You need to buy the game and then pay monthly?

You get a month free for new accounts though

[fringe salmon]

free trial with unlimited time till lv 60 which is the entire base game + first expansion

[fading spade]

Also.....the PAL version???

Why is there a 50fps version???

[barren pewter]

yeropoors can't afford 60FPS

[fringe salmon]

pal doesnt mean 50fps...

[fading spade]

then what it mean?

[barren pewter]

I'm talking about the good ol days

back when it did

50 vs 60

[fading spade]

Yeah...thats the last time ive seen PAL mentioned LOL on old games

[fringe salmon]

its about the region

[fading spade]

hhmm

I see

[barren pewter]

account pricing different?

that's the one thing that comes to mind

[fringe salmon]

no just regional tos iirc

[barren pewter]

mmm yes

makes sense

no lootboxes for PAL?

[fringe salmon]

lol lootboxes

this is a good game

[sudden prawn]

not as good as scroll wheel, but I can do tap strafe and wall bounce only using the wooting keyboard

damn this is nice

[bleak pike]

https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/zingce/ive_never_seen_a_game_upgrade_their_graphics_this/

[orchid prism]

I've never seen a game take a worse direction for its graphics either tbh

[barren pewter]

^^

also
I'm going to fuckin rail against the SR4 Re-elected thing

[orchid prism]

Due to?

[barren pewter]

forced update
that requires installing epic shit on your PC
and deleted my savefiles for some fucking reason

thank fuck I can revert to the previous version

[ashen lark]

Not so epic games

[barren pewter]

sure that update gives all DLC
but I already HAD EM ALL

I don't care for crossplay because I have no friends

[fringe salmon]

has nothing to do with epic games

they added epic online services to replace networking to allow crossplay

and I guess did a windows and somehow broke save files then

[barren pewter]

won't let you run the game without em

[fringe salmon]

makes sense, likely also just replace steamworks drm with eos drm to just fully replace it

my guess at least

then again they also arent the brightest devs there so maybe they just broke it

[bleak pike]

I still can't understand how this game is free.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1568540/Smithworks/

Steam

Smithworks

You play as a new member in the Smithworks Guild named Smitta. She has always dreamed of becoming like the legendary smiths of the past. Their legacy and contributions led to their peaceful present time. However, it would seem that the guild was not as she had hoped for with it's questionable business practices and treatment of customers. Same-d...

its so good.

And there are no micro transactions.

[fading spade]

How tf do I solve the nat traversal issue on mariokart?? .-.

It happens 90% of the time I try to join my friend's room

And if he tries to join mine

[unborn spruce]

Standard shit? Force open a port, make a static route, make sure your router isn’t being a derp, make sure your console isn’t being a derp.

[fading spade]

I'm on mobile hotspot
I cannot open ports

[unborn spruce]

Oh.

Uhhh…

[fading spade]

My nat type is b

[orchid prism]

Well there's your problem I guess

[unborn spruce]

Pray to RNGesus and hope the NAT isn’t a screwball I guess. Lmfao

[fading spade]

It works fine sometimes

[fading spade]

My entire life

I had issues with Nat even during college when I was at a rental house on their router

We had full control over the router
It was nice

But the nat traversal issue kept happening on that too

[unborn spruce]

Mm.

How much tweaking did you do?

[fading spade]

On the router?

[unborn spruce]

Yeee.

[fading spade]

Just enough to have a local static IP for my server computer
And opened two ports for Minecraft servers

My friend did other shit, he opened some ports for his own stuff too

[unborn spruce]

NAT can sometimes be a little odd. Best way to make it work is to completely smooth the entire packet line and work backwards.

So like make a VLAN, make all of the settings for the VLAN not interact with the rest of the network (easily done with L2 isolation) and yeet your device into said VLAN.

If that works then you have something to start testing from.

Usually you’ll find that settings like UPNP are a problem if your network has IoT devices so you just VLAN those and use L2 isolation (best feature) and it’ll mostly resolve itself.

Never underestimate the raw power of VLANs.

[fading spade]

Nintendo need to host servers

-.-

[unborn spruce]

Pfff. You asking to get kicked in the shins?

[fading spade]

All their games lag on multiplayer cause they are all peer to peer .-.

[unborn spruce]

With the brazen lack of fucks Nintendo gives I’m sure they’d do something asinine and make them unplayable.

[orchid prism]

Or maybe it's because someone's using mobile hotspots for online gaming.

https://tenor.com/view/hmmm-hmm-vigod-arbel-gif-21066658

[fading spade]

I literally said that it happened on the router too

[fringe salmon]

also p2p means the game can be played even if they wouldnt have servers up anymore

[fading spade]

Back at the other house

[fringe salmon]

p2p does not make it inherently laggy

[unborn spruce]

This too.

[bleak pike]

Lots of people use 4g/5g over fiber

[unborn spruce]

I mean I’m fine if they wanna release the actual servers as well.

In that case please avoid p2p.

[orchid prism]

You wot mate

That's like saying you're using wired wifi

[unborn spruce]

5G over fibre? What in the fuck kind of chimera system is that?

[bleak pike]

Sorry that might have been worded poorly.

[fading spade]

Definitely not

[bleak pike]

I meant people use 4/5g rather than fiber etc

Via 4/5g routers

[unborn spruce]

I mean you’re not wrong with how fast 5G is.

Much simpler to deploy.

[bleak pike]

4g is very fast too

[fading spade]

I literally have no choice to use 4g

[bleak pike]

In a lot of eu countries it's a lot cheaper and very good.

[unborn spruce]

Out of curiosity have you seen Nintendo’s troubleshooting instructions for network failure to their games?

They just tell you to yeet open all the ports.

[fading spade]

Yep
Open literally every single possible port on your router

🤦‍♀️

[unborn spruce]

Like bruh, Nintendo what are you doing?

[fading spade]

That's because they don't wanna share what ports their games use

[unborn spruce]

And it’s not like they start on port 1001, they tell you to open 1-1000 as well.

[unborn spruce]

Bruh you can literally scan that shit with cli.

There’s no way they think that’s in any way private.

[fading spade]

Oh

[unborn spruce]

Yeah yeah.

[bleak pike]

That UDP tho

[unborn spruce]

[fading spade]

Lol wtf

[unborn spruce]

Just open all the UDP ports, what could possibly go wrong?

It’s not like anyone is looking.

[fading spade]

I changed my dns on the switch and it works now

Great

[orchid prism]

Zoomers don't know about my subnets.

Back in my day we had to use serial to eo multiplayer.

Later we were graced by hubs and IPX. Just imagine s switch that didn't know who was who and would just repeat what it received to all connections like your LAN is a dang walkie talkie channel

[hot spire]

good old ipx

[nimble current]

me and the bois on our way to give skull boss bad day

[barren pewter]

sigh

can't find any real numbers on the porting kit performance of fallout 4

or anything beyond "plenty playable on 13" M1 MBP"

[willow quiver]

Give me games, any price, could have some action

Mostly wanting games that give you a option to do stuff stealthy or loud

[fringe salmon]

deus ex

[willow quiver]

which one?

[fringe salmon]

human revolution/mankind divided

the older ones are apparently good but never played them

[willow quiver]

Oh yeah, I'm gonna try human revolution, anything else you have?

[fringe salmon]

not on top of my head

hoped cyberpunk would be in that genre and then we all know how that ended

[willow quiver]

lol

theres so little interesting games rn

And if you don't know any action game then you can also give me some 3rd person games

[fringe salmon]

uhh max payne, mass effect

[orchid prism]

Mass Effect, Stealth.

https://tenor.com/view/u-wot-m8-21st-century-gif-3545824

[fringe salmon]

nah was just thinking about 3rd person in general

[willow quiver]

Oh yeah, I'll try mass effect, max Payne is great

[orchid prism]

Oh my bad. Missed the followup 😄

[fading spade]

Dishonored

[orchid prism]

Dishonored sucks in this department though, cause the game doesn't care if you get spotted, only if you kill or don't.

[willow quiver]

lol I've played all the dishonoreds already, great game

[fading spade]

It also cares if you alert anyone

[orchid prism]

Only for achievements.

[fading spade]

Or if a body gets found

[orchid prism]

Only - for - achievements

No one cares if you ran through an entire level guns blazing or if you methodically killed everyone from the shadows. The game only changes based on whether or not you're in a low or high state of chaos (i.e. no kills, few kills, high kills)

[fading spade]

oh hmm

even trying to be as stealthy as I could, I get high chaos in the last level I played

[small comet]

so u killed too many

[fringe salmon]

think in some parts you also had to prevent some people from being killed

or maybe that was just the dlc, dont remember

[small comet]

Chaos controls how Corvo, Daud and Emily's quests unfold and their eventual resolution. It affects the number of guards present in each area and the strength of their forces, and increases the quantity of rats, weepers, and bloodflies encountered during missions. It is chiefly calculated by the number of people killed, but is also influenced by other factors, e.g. completing certain side objectives.

last sentence is the important bit

[fading spade]

o.o

wait, chaos level changes the endings???

[fringe salmon]

also different based on which dishonored we're talking about

[small comet]

yes

[fading spade]

o..

well Im fucked

[small comet]

no?

just replay

pretty short game anyway

[fringe salmon]

one chaos level also doesn't spell doom for the ending

[fading spade]

ive just started the level that you start || when you get betrayed by Pendleton ||

[orchid prism]

Depends on the ending you're going for and how many enemies there are I believe.

[small comet]

thats basically almost the end

[fading spade]

yeah, I figured

[fringe salmon]

I mean that as one chaos level in the first doesnt make it to the worst ending

[small comet]

oh ya a high chaos score in 1 or 2 missions isnt the worst

[fading spade]

I had a high chaos level but I did the mission without killing the main target xd

I used political murder instead

[small comet]

any kill counts

no matter who or what

[fading spade]

true

Also, I have a feeling Emily hates me

[orchid prism]

Every boss has an alternate path you can take for a "no chaos" outcome.

Which usually involves a trap.

[fading spade]

Did Emily know the || betrayal || was going to happen?

[small comet]

bruh shes like 12

[fading spade]

yeh

[fringe salmon]

why are you asking us spoilers when you are like 5% away from the ending

[fading spade]

but she was also locked up in a freaking brothel for who knows how long

she even said she heard shit

[small comet]

well if you read the synopsis of dishonored 2 u know

they still BFFs

matching tattoos and all

[fading spade]

not sure, she seems to hate me in my playthrough

Unless she is dismissive to everyone who talks to her

[small comet]

shes 12

or smth along that age

sorry 10 in dishonored

[fading spade]

oh, no wonder I could see everyone's cape the last time I played MC on my Deck

this modpack has many neat mods

[small comet]

who needs that if you got a mojang cape

[fading spade]

I have also an Optifine cape

is the trans flag :D

but vertical cause cape

OK I LOVE THIS MOD

Borderless Mining

adds a Fullscreen borderless option to the game

FUCK YEAH

[small comet]

werent u playing dishonored just now

[fading spade]

no more minecraft minimising when I click on another app

[small comet]

actually

just dont

[fading spade]

last night, yes

[small comet]

answer

[fading spade]

we were talking about Dishonored cause I mentioned it as a suggestion to Clark and then we went on about it more and I mentioend the chaos level I got in my playthrough

never said I was playing it right now

[small comet]

have you played splinter cell

[willow quiver]

yep, loved it lol

[small comet]

ok how bout metal gear

[willow quiver]

i tried it, i didnt really like it that much because the world is too open and the silencers break

[small comet]

thief?

/ thief II

[willow quiver]

thief?

[small comet]

its a game

[willow quiver]

never heard of thief before

[small comet]

id say a grandfather of stealth games

[willow quiver]

what type of game is it?

[small comet]

https://store.steampowered.com/agecheck/app/239160/

[willow quiver]

oooh

lemme see

[small comet]

no

thats the not as good remake

fuck

https://store.steampowered.com/app/6980/Thief_Deadly_Shadows/

Steam

Thief: Deadly Shadows

You are Garrett, the master thief. Rarely seen and never caught, Garrett is the best that ever was. Able to sneak past any guard, pick any lock, and break into the most ingeniously secured residences. Garrett steals from the wealthy and gives to himself, making his living in the dark and foreboding City. Here crime and corruption are commonplace...

Price

$8.99

Recommendations

1884

Metacritic

85

this ones the original

[willow quiver]

ooh

i need moreeeee

[small comet]

theres also thief 2

also p good

[willow quiver]

ive never heard of thief before lol

[small comet]

ancient title

thief gold was like

1999

or so

[willow quiver]

danggg

wtf

ima try thief

[fading spade]

OwO

[willow quiver]

you got any more 3rd person games or stealth games

[small comet]

imma check after work hours in my private collection on my win pc

[willow quiver]

alright

[small comet]

i mean does sniper elite count?

or ghost warrior?

[fading spade]

Sniper Elite very much is stealth

[small comet]

ya but its more shooter

[fading spade]

cause if you get caught you only have a shitty pistol to use

[small comet]

no lol

in later games u get MPs

and other stuff

[fading spade]

oh

its been mayn years since I played it xd

[willow quiver]

gimme more 3rd person games

doesnt even need to be stealth anymore im so desperate

[fading spade]

Tom Clancy Ghost Recon?

[willow quiver]

i have breakpoint

its not bad

[fading spade]

I cant tell if the problem is cause Steam Deck or Plasma desktop, but when I put a game into Fullscreen Borderless, the panel stays on the screen and the bottom of the game window is under it

I could install a game on my laptop and see if the same thing happens there, I suppose

cause I have Plasma on that too

[small comet]

forza horizon 5

technically 3rd person

[willow quiver]

LOL

alright

[small comet]

sorry been too absorbed in it lately

[willow quiver]

ill try it

[fading spade]

LOL, technically true

Distance is a great game too <3 Go check it out

[small comet]

havent even done all races but already driven all roads, all boards, all danger signs, drift zones and what not

[fading spade]

Use a controller though, its hard on keyboard

[willow quiver]

NO, I HAVE THE WOOTING 60HE

[willow quiver]

sure

[small comet]

ngl

i dont use my woot controller stuff

[fading spade]

Distance can work with Wooting boards xd

but I havent tried it too long

im so used of controller in that game

[small comet]

if we had a 200g option for lekker springs id consider the woot

[hot spire]

ive used both my twos driving

and a cheap wheel is better lol

[small comet]

well idk bout cheap wheel... i bought one of those logitech things and it was just

laughable

how shit the pedals where

[hot spire]

yeah but compared to using wooting

lol

i got a broken TMX from someone and glued it back together

10/10

i would never speed several hundred for a wheel

but if you can get one under 100, totally worth it

[fading spade]

impatiently waiting for SteamOS 3.3.4 so I can get the new versions of Plasma desktop

[fading spade]

I love the chaos that custom item selection inmariokart brings xd

https://youtu.be/JsLHH2Wm_Bw

Im surprised Nintendo let this happen ahaha xd

[hot spire]

why not

[fading spade]

usually they dont like fun

and this update adds a lot of pure chaos and fun because of that

who knew Nintendo would let you pick what items come from item boxes? no one!

[barren pewter]

they did in previous games

you could select from a couple like "mushrooms only" "bob ombs only"

item by item is new

[fading spade]

Yeah, thats what I mean, you can selection among all the items, not just their presets

[sick plover]

people who got the wooting for valorant, does it geniunely makes a difference

[fading spade]

If you spend the time to set it up the way that works best for you and spend the time to get used to using it, then possibly

[hot spire]

didnt know they had a channel thats cool

i hope reggie keeps doing game awards

Reggie is an amazing man. Iwata and him were the perfect team for Nintendo

[hot spire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDJDD4yaPW8

10/10

best videogame sport

[willow quiver]

Gib 3rd person games pls

[hot spire]

gear of war

[willow quiver]

Gear of war???

What's that

[hot spire]

really?

has to be the most famous third person shooter

[willow quiver]

What????

Whats it about??

[hot spire]

if you cant figure that out, you dont need it

[willow quiver]

about war?....

[fading spade]

Do you need to login to the Nintendo store website to be able to buy things from it?

I wanna see how much the SNES mini costs but I don't see a buy button anywhere on the product page

https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Misc-/Nintendo-Classic-Mini-Super-Nintendo-Entertainment-System/Nintendo-Classic-Mini-Super-Nintendo-Entertainment-System-1238330.html

[bleak pike]

Oh look, an official raspberry pi emu thingy

Oops nvm I meant NintendoPi thingy

[hot spire]

theyve been out for a while

like years

[fading spade]

I know xd but I'm tempted

I have a Super Mario game & watch already

[hot spire]

they are crazy money now

not worth it

you can buy better handhelds for the same

lol

like RG505 are under 200 bucks

which is oled

[hot spire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frjx63T5FQU

[mortal linden]

Haters will say it’s fake

[orchid prism]

Don't buy that pos. Get a pi with a SNES skin and you have infinitely more power.

[tough jay]

I think for the people buying these things it is mostly a collectors item, knowing that it's not the best device to play these games on.

[hot spire]

Exactly

Idk if many are paying what people are asking now though

[fading spade]

🤔 that username

[willow quiver]

Who doesn't love boobies?

[fading spade]

ikr!

New York Minute sucks

hot take, I know

[fading spade]

Im so glad we got Maple in Mariokart again <3

[willow quiver]

Give MORE 3rd person games plss

[fading spade]

Split Second

but the 360 version not PC cause its better

[willow quiver]

I don't have a Xbox :(

[fading spade]

aha

PC version doesnt have the dynamic music and sound effects

and its not as 3d sounding

but the rest is the same as the 360 version

[willow quiver]

Gib moreeee

[fading spade]

(and its the only game I am ok with being locked to 30fps)

[willow quiver]

30???

[fading spade]

cause the 60FPS patch can break the powerplays :/

and those are essential to the game

[willow quiver]

Eek

About to play a slideshow lol

[fading spade]

Apparently there was a master unlock DLC you could buy back in the day

but IDK if thats on Steam

[willow quiver]

Gimme games from like 2013-2016

Those years were like the best times in gaming

[fading spade]

idk what I did wrong when I played Splitsecond on my 360

there was always one empty slot on the track selection screen

and I cannot figure out if there is actually another track or they just wanted the grid to be a square

AGGHH

because no matter what I did, I couldnt unlock another track

so maybe it was just there to make it even

[willow quiver]

lol noob

why is crysis 3 remastered running so bad, even on the lowest graphicss

or is there a bug where it's locked to like 60fps?

[nimble current]

I miss gaming from like 1996-2003

[buoyant agate]

What was gaming like that back then?

[fringe salmon]

shit

[nimble current]

super creative

wasn't that many established genres and rules/guidelines so studios went wild

[fringe salmon]

nah they had some great games mario sunshine one of the more out of line ones I can remember

[nimble current]

the tech was facinating and took big leaps for each new generation too, nowadays most remains the same at its core, just gets a bit faster for each new gen

intel entering the gpu space is prolly the biggest thing to happen in the pc world for ages

[buoyant agate]

(or leaps back like Pokémon did recently)

[fringe salmon]

I mean thats more because stuff was impossible before, now less stuff is impossible so its nor like a lack of innovation, its just we dont lack basics anymore

[tough jay]

There was also a lot more garbage in those days, high profile garbage.

[nimble current]

there was, and stuff went obsolete a lot quicker

[fringe salmon]

yeah, not we still have garbage but thats because we just have so much more in total so the garbage seems higher

[tough jay]

What I meant is that nowadays the real garbage gets called out sooner, every idiot can see a mostly negative on steam and thing, hmm maybe not so great idea to buy this.

[nimble current]

these days if you buy a top shelf system chances are it'll still work fine for everyday use and even be able to keep up with quite a few modern games a decade down the line

you would have been dead in the water with an early 90s PC in the latter half of the decade, ditto in the 00s with a late 90s one

[nimble current]

gaming mags did their best serving that purpose back then, but sure nothing like the exposure of steam

though it was also a lot more common with demos/shareware versions of games so you could try it out first if you were lucky

[tough jay]

Reviews did definitely exist online as well, but I really only started to rely on them as a source from around 2004 onward

Mostly because that was the first time I had my own pc to access the internet / I did not understand english up until that time.

Before that it was mostly recommendations from friends and such

[nimble current]

we got internet at home in 95 or 96 iirc

[tough jay]

or just hoping the next game in a series was good / on pc bargin bin gamble (which was surprisingly effective at times)

[nimble current]

good ol dial-up

[tough jay]

Same I just did not understand the means of looking up that info back then.

also dutch sources in that time would be scarse

[nimble current]

first games I played online was quake and diablo

300 ping in pvp fps

and it was the coolest thing ever

[nimble current]

I was still a kid so my dad sorted out most of that stuff

mostly got website/forum etc tips from like pc mags or word of mouth from friends

[tough jay]

yea my mom did not know anything about gaming so there was that too.

I think the first only game I remember playing was lieroX

[nimble current]

my mom barely started using a computer of her own until the mid 2000s sometime dad was the driving force in getting a computer at all but never got to use it bc of us

liero kicked ass

brought it on a floppy to school and it spread like wildfire among anyone who had a pc at home

[tough jay]

I downloaded it over dailup initially

[nimble current]

can't recall if I downloaded or got it from a pc mag disc or something like that

was pretty common for them to stuff CDs with freeware indie software/games etc

elasto mania was also one of those hugely popular games

[hot spire]

I was lucky my mom worked in it when I was a kid

It was the best time is when she worked for the cable company in the mid-90s and we had five Meg cable internet

Then when my parents separated I went back to dial up for like 6 months

Was torture

[fringe salmon]

https://www.twitch.tv/cohhcarnage/clip/MistySlipperyLarkCurseLit-bmWyrxynZ6e6bcId

new game from the people who made job simulator and the co creator of rick&morty is out https://store.steampowered.com/app/1583230/High_On_Life/

Steam

High On Life

SUMMARYFrom the Co-Creator of Rick & Morty and Solar Opposites, comes High On Life. Fresh out of high school with no job and no ambition, you’ve really got nothing going for you until an alien cartel that wants to get high off humanity invades Earth. Now, you and a team of charismatic talking guns must answer the hero's call and become the deadl...

Price

$49.99

▶ Play video

looks like some fallout mixed with borderlands, I like it

[barren pewter]

huh

that looks dope

defnitely gonna play that at some point

[orchid prism]

Too Rick and Morty for my tastes.

[barren pewter]

just enough so for me

[bleak pike]

Can't wait to play this later

[fringe salmon]

it has the voice actors so obviously will make you think of r&m

[orchid prism]

I was referring to the style of humor.

[fringe salmon]

ah fair enough, though I think that wasnt the first show with that style xD

[tough jay]

While I do enjoy rick and Morty, but I think they are trying a bit too hard to imitate the show from the limited footage you just posted.

does not seam like something I would like as a game, just like I found borderlands rather cringy (especially 2)

Have not played 3

[fringe salmon]

idk personally I think its more borderlands with less dumb short sentences but if you also dont like it then probably not up your alley

[barren pewter]

you aren't missing out

[nimble current]

borderlands characters are overall kinda shouty and annoying, with some exceptions

I still find it pretty fun games

[tough jay]

I found that 1 was a bit more grounded, still what also does not help is that the games are either too easy or the enemies turn into bullet sponges

[nimble current]

first one still had the best vibe to it imo, never quite warmed up to 2

[tough jay]

It rests a bit too much on the looting

[nimble current]

3 is pretty good, better than I expected

main campaign is quite lengthy too so got pretty good moneys worth

especially considering I got it free off epic

[tough jay]

If someone wanted me to do a coop run I would but it wouldn't be my first choice there either.

[nimble current]

yeah I've only played borderlands games with coop parties

[barren pewter]

solo it's pretty...ugh

I say that as someone who's played BL2, 3 and the Pre-sequel several times over

solo

fun, but not really incredible

[tough jay]

of course, still there is a difference between friends asking you to do coop / actively looking for a group to play with.

[nimble current]

I pretty much exclusively play coop-focused games or at least ones that have the option nowadays

[tough jay]

groups I played with kind of fell apart, so I kind of stopped for now, probably get back into it at some point. My schedule also really does not help finding groups.
Work + travel + dinner until 20:00-20:30 ish and stopping at around 22:30 and on Wednesdays / the weekend also being available during the day but not between 19:30ish and 20:30ish stopping at roughly the same time at night.

[nimble current]

kinda been binging valheim again last couple weeks, we set up a server in a discord am part of

think we're little over half dozen on it

its a pretty good game in that sorta time schedule regard since everyone can access it and play at all times

[tough jay]

I have not yet played that game but would if people here or on some other server I am active on.

[nimble current]

I really like it, I rarely put a ton of time into games in general but I've passed 450 hrs in valheim

just dropped a huge update for it too, part of why we got back on it

[bleak pike]

Heard this was a good game

[bleak pike]

Who needs a switch anyway

[fallow bronze]

my first thought was, why do you have your steamdeck out when you're at something social, but then i saw it was an ipad

[barren pewter]

...you know a macbook can emulate switch games with a longer battery life, better screen, etc
right?

then again, M-series macs are just...the best

[orchid prism]

I'd argue that a macbook isn't super easy to two-hand 😄

[barren pewter]

exactly what a weak dane who hasn't been raiding the north of england in a while would say

[bleak pike]

Bruh

I only just downloaded it

[orchid prism]

[barren pewter]

oh

mansen

https://tenor.com/view/discord-mods-heading-to-announcements-discord-mods-announcements-scam-links-gif-25118530

[orchid prism]

[hot spire]

The m2 air is impossible to beat

[barren pewter]

I mean...yes

but I prefer the 14" Mx Pro just because better IO, screen, speakers

[hot spire]

Only reason I don't run one is touch

Touch is just so nice on laptops

Yeah but the pros have real competition

[barren pewter]

assuming you mean touchscreens on laptops

I genuinely hate those lol
for me, it's a deal breaker

the M series not offering it was a plus

[barren pewter]

oh they do

[hot spire]

The m2 air is out there

It's so fast and efficient nothing has the same battery life in it's size

Pretty sure it has something like a 50% lead on 12th gen ultrabooks

[bleak pike]

Played 10 min of high on life on game pass, instantly fell in love and bought on steam instead.

[ashen lark]

Hollow played 10 min of high on weed and also instantly fell in love with it

[fringe salmon]

time annoy the guy on the team I know to get me referral boni

[bleak pike]

XD

I'll have you know you didn't refer me XD

[fringe salmon]

that might be factually true but I disagree with the facts

[bleak pike]

XD

I kept trying to shoot NPC's

It was great

And I instantly tried to shoot the sister which gave a great response

[fringe salmon]

main point though, if you like game buy it and not just have it on game pass, game pass is slow creeping death for games

[fading spade]

ooo

ive never seen a battery warning for a controller on Linux before

thats so cool

[ashen lark]

Why does it show a colored bar for third of a battery when just 2% is remaining

[mortal linden]

can't show less

[fading spade]

probably just the icon pack I have

this is a third party pack

[orchid prism]

It has three fields. So it's either 100%, 66 or 33 😛

It's an icon, not a 1-100 meter.

[ashen lark]

Yeah but with such a low value it should show 0

When you quickly glance at it it showing third doesn’t look concerning

[mortal linden]

That'd be fake news

[orchid prism]

Then it would just show a battery. If you have no context for it, it doesn't look empty.

[ashen lark]

It showing no bars would be much more likely to notify you

[fringe salmon]

its not a phone you dont quickly glance and miss it and then put it away

[bleak pike]

Was fgoing to play on my deck but it randomly spits an error out (high on life)

[orchid prism]

Disagree.

[fringe salmon]

I could agree it should be red instead of orange

[ashen lark]

^

At least that

[mortal linden]

True.

[ashen lark]

Even then imo red outline and no bars would be better than one red bar

My calculator does it that way

[bleak pike]

[fringe salmon]

yes and calculator and phones are not the same as a steam deck/pc/ whatever it is where you use a controller

[fringe salmon]

different usecase, you dont just glance at it newer before 2% and then leave it for hours

windows or linux on the deck?

for HoL

@bleak pike

[bleak pike]

Anddddd hol doesn't support cloud save

[bleak pike]

Linux

But others it seems fine

[fringe salmon]

got a screenshot for it not supporting cloud saves?

[bleak pike]

Lots of people on the forums saying its disabled

[fringe salmon]

ah no need to mention it then

[bleak pike]

Deffo no starting it on my deck then lol

Moonlight it is

[ashen lark]

Play LiS BtS then

[fading spade]

OMFH

THIS GAME HAS A BESTBUY BRANDED CAR XD

[barren pewter]

"this game" being?

[fading spade]

Split Second xd

Or if you wanna be very accurate
Split/Second

[fading spade]

SuperTuxKart IS ON THE SWITCH STORE :')

[hot spire]

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/no-seriously-you-should-disable-the-2k-launcher-for-marvels-midnight-suns

[hot spire]

is it:?>

its been out on swtich foir ayear

[fading spade]

Oo oh wow xd

I played it on Android
It runs really well

[hot spire]

they ported from opengl to vulkan this year

[willow quiver]

dl2 is proof that newer and more expensive game doesn't mean better

[fading spade]

https://youtu.be/CFirkcwhAPI

$240

For a case that fits the steam deck and literally any other accessories you wanna bring with it

Keyboard, mouse, controller, power bank, the official Dock, HDMI cable, power cable and brick
It will all fit!

[willow quiver]

couldn't you just use any bag?

[young hill]

Why bring another controller...

[hot spire]

friends

[young hill]

Fair enough

[willow quiver]

They should make a 5$ steam deck

500mb storage

[young hill]

It will be cardboard box

[willow quiver]

lol yeah

[young hill]

With a cardboard 500termite cardboard floppy drive

[willow quiver]

they should make like a lite version 100$ or something

[young hill]

That seems unlikely

Technically they could remove the storage

But I doubt the cost will drop much if they did so

[willow quiver]

very unlikely yeah but its still a suggestion

[young hill]

Even the switch lite

[fringe salmon]

the current steam deck is alread a lite version basically

[young hill]

Costs $199 or is it $299

[hot spire]

yeah m.2 isnt a cost

they just charge more to make money not because it cost that much more

[young hill]

I mean that makes sense for margins

[hot spire]

everyone is like that for pc hardware

[young hill]

Same goes for phones

[hot spire]

the major cost in the deck is design and manufacture setup

you gotta sell tons of units to cover at that price

[young hill]

Probably also r&d

For that software experience

[hot spire]

thats why other devices that compete are double or more

the ahrdware dosent cost more, the setup dose

and think the deck is all costom

no off the shelf screen

buttons

sticks

etc

how many deck competetors use switch sticks?

[willow quiver]

400$ is kinda expensive man

[hot spire]

or procontroller sticks

LMAO

have you see what a neo cost?

[young hill]

Then take out a sma loan of a million dollars

[willow quiver]

Neo?

[hot spire]

aya neo?

[young hill]

Chinese mini computer

[willow quiver]

Wow, very helpful :)

[fringe salmon]

Yeah it’s cheap as fuck compared to any other offering with the same performance

[hot spire]

they closest compitior to the deck

[willow quiver]

Never heard of it lol

[young hill]

It was what was shown before the steam deck

[hot spire]

The neo air is 520 bucks

and slower

[willow quiver]

dang

How are people out here buying a 500$ mini computer that's slower than a steam deck

[hot spire]

https://store.ayaneo.com/goods/7849577742581

5560u with 8gb of ddr5

and only 128gb storage

to get to that price

[willow quiver]

Looks cool

[willow quiver]

Can't you use like a HDD with it anyway?

Like tape it to the back or something

[hot spire]

if you dont want it portable

but yeah the air has 6CU vega

deck is 8CU rdna2

but to be fair

the air is smaller

5.5 inch 1080p oled

with hall sticks and triggers

i think im going to get a neo 2 though

6800u seems so good

if they can get the tdp down for non gaming

[slim token]

deck but every dollar you're willing to fork over gets you an additional 100 mb of storage

[young hill]

Dbrand grip exists

Your whalecum

[young hill]

Would the screen automatically work though

Not even mentioning if it can correctly controlled

[fading spade]

Guilikit have Hall Effect sticks

Not sure about OLED screens though yet

[drifting sandal]

Have anyone noticed Steam recognises Wooting keyboard as Xbox controller?

[orchid prism]

Yes? That's been by design since... 2017. This is how we accomplish the analog movement.

The Xbox controller is the single most popular controller for games, because of the console. So a LOT of big and indie games support this directly, so we tap into this.

[feral ferry]

WootMC went under?

I thought that people were playing WootMC

Also, who's Rouhan?

Is this the Wooting server? Feels like I'min a different one completely

[orchid prism]

Industrial designer from Taiwan. You'll see some of her work in the future. 🙂

[feral ferry]

Ahhh

You peeps were looking for Taiwanese locals to supervise the production stuff

[orchid prism]

WootMC was up last time I connected. May have crashed though.

[feral ferry]

I remember Calder talkinga bout it

[feral ferry]

As in

It's completely gone

Maybe to you it's on your screen cause you have the permissions

But for me a normie it's gone

Pleasant or someone else must have taken it down

[orchid prism]

Channels are there - Maybe this was an accidental side effects of the new "channels and roles" opt in system Discord added? Scroll to the top of the channel list, and there's a thing you can click where you can opt in and out of seeing specific channels completely.

Like you have to specifically opt-in to see Meme-rage as a new member. Not just muted, completely invisible.

[feral ferry]

Oh I didn't see it

Sorry I was completely out of it the last few days, last days of my thesis

[orchid prism]

[feral ferry]

Huh

I like the channels and roles thing a lot

People no longer see #💬│general and they get guided to support

That's a good addition

Still, WootMC is gone

Which generation of WootMC was this one, 4 or 5? Failed again

[orchid prism]

These are the defaults. I can see it still needs a bit of fine tuning. Lemme add WootMC to the optionals. One sec 😄

[feral ferry]

You also hid a few channels?

I don't see lekker or pets, etc

[orchid prism]

Pets is an optional. That much I know.

[feral ferry]

Feels bad for Pleasant

The guy's not even paid for his services and he has literally every single channel on notifications

[orchid prism]

Such is the life of an admin 😄

[small comet]

tbf we dont force him to

[orchid prism]

Hmm... there are limits on how many onboarding questions we can ask and how many channels we can add optionally. I'll have to look at this tomorrow and make a logical list so we can hopefully add everything in way that doesn't leave any out.

[feral ferry]

Roger

[feral ferry]

He's a good lad, just wants to be helpful

[feral ferry]

Got an email from good old Microsoft how I should save big by buying Series S and Surface laptops

I already own a Series S, but I really can't deny

This is damn good pricing

199 for a console of that power for 1440p gaming?

Game pass aswell?

I really like the value proposition

[orchid prism]

Lucky - I just get daily malware emails from people trying to get me to log into my MS for savings on Office 365...on the Wooting official email that is 😄

They DO look very convincing though - I assume they cloned a real email and just edited it slightly with bad links.

[jovial flicker]

i get mails for viagra and cyalis 💀

[feral ferry]

Wait what do you mean look convincing?

You mean those emails I've been receiving about me getting 10 million dollars from some dead nigerian prince are not real?

[orchid prism]

😄

[feral ferry]

Damn I've been sending my ID card pictures to all of those and wondering where my cash is

[orchid prism]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-dog-worried-scared-look-gif-23041456

[feral ferry]

They kept telling me to use some kind of "Western Union", whatever that is, to give em money

I kinda just sent them images of paper cash and they just stopped responding

Literally been ripped off multiple times like this

It's really sad

[jovial flicker]

you guys saw the ted talk about the guy responding to those emails?

[feral ferry]

James Veitch?

Who hasn't

Guy's a legend

[jovial flicker]

yeah

[young hill]

Did you share you SSN

Because that is really the way you get your money

[fading spade]

PLANE INCOMING
WATCH FOR DEBRIS AND EXPLOSIONS WHILE RACING ON THE RUNWAY

[bleak pike]

The irony

Destiny 2 returned old content/updated being the most fun I've had in ages and Is way better than the new content in n a while.

[fading spade]

Ayyy

Finally

Spectator mode in Bedrock

[nimble current]

saw a minecraft arcade cabinet today

[fading spade]

oo

very neat

[fading spade]

FINALLY

HES PLAYING PONY ISLAND

https://youtu.be/luxj8Ei0R2o

[orchid prism]

Who is Kevin, and why should I care.

[fringe salmon]

he's home alone

[orchid prism]

And Trump is there somehow.

[fringe salmon]

and we all wish they had broken in his house that night instead

[fading spade]

pretty dang popular Irish youtuber

[wild wyvern]

I think my fave this kind of video is pewdiepie playing doki doki literature club

[fading spade]

ah yes

back to Pony Island once more

[willow quiver]

Now bedrock players might get hardcore too

[fading spade]

LOL

[willow quiver]

Lmao

[fading spade]

Please play Pony Island

its so fucking good

[willow quiver]

Pony island

[fading spade]

yay wings :D

[bleak pike]

Seen a few myself and don't get it

[fading spade]

Minecraft Dungeons is pretty fun

[bleak pike]

I also miss when arcades cost physical money :(

Now it's all card shite

[bleak pike]

Ye but these machines give you half baked one life shit

[fading spade]

oh

hehe

[nimble current]

its just amusing to me taking the most zoomer thing ever and packaging it in the most boomer thing ever

[fading spade]

huh?

[nimble current]

minecraft on an arcade cabinet

[hot spire]

https://www.twitch.tv/missmikkaa/clip/ConsiderateSmilingPenguinBabyRage-QIRdDgxfEqTMffR-

[bleak pike]

That's a shame

Witcher 3 4.0 doesn't work on deck

[fringe salmon]

be happy

runs like garbage on anything anyway

[bleak pike]

Oh really?

[fringe salmon]

the witcher 2077 basically

[bleak pike]

Oh god

Shouldn't be surprised then

[fading spade]

still verified

.-.

[fringe salmon]

runs even worse than cp does nowadays

[fading spade]

O.o

[fringe salmon]

its just a hacked together mess

[bleak pike]

It came out like not long ago

[fringe salmon]

like today

[bleak pike]

Like 6 hours?

But technically speaking it should be playable since you can still play classic

[fading spade]

you use big picture mode?

[bleak pike]

Big picture is what it shows when you're on a steam deck

[fading spade]

o

[bleak pike]

But yes I do use big picture

From time to time on my pc

I much prefer it over the deck ui

[fading spade]

WAIT

[fringe salmon]

not sure if you can still select the old one since they also made a mess and changing settings can cause a crash

[fading spade]

BIG PICTURE IS DECK UI NOW

[bleak pike]

Not yet

[bleak pike]

It's not out yet for desktop stable

[bleak pike]

Or well it's not stable, it's still in preview and requires opting in.

I know Lana -_-

[fading spade]

I didnt opt in though :')

Im just in beta

[bleak pike]

STABLE

Wait you own Forza 5

[fringe salmon]

beta is very much opt in

[bleak pike]

On steam

[fading spade]

ye

[bleak pike]

Time to leach ya license

[fading spade]

LOL

I buy games on Steam whenever possible

but things like Battlefield and Titanfall still launch EA App when I run them from Steam .-.

can I use the skip-launcherflag maybe?

[bleak pike]

No

They require linking your steam account

I hate it

[fading spade]

same ;-;

[bleak pike]

122gb

Ooft

[fading spade]

YEAH....

[bleak pike]

That will take to long on SD card

[fading spade]

also, the OST for 5 is not as good as 4 ;-; I like the music in 4 a lot better

[hot spire]

ew

[fading spade]

also, the game didnt work for me when I tried it

it launched, I heard the sound but saw nothing

[hot spire]

idk why in big piture store banners are so low res

[fringe salmon]

why listen to racing game soundtracks when you can just listen to eurobeat directly

[bleak pike]

First launch it can do that for 2 min

[hot spire]

https://x-files.ciablack.site/EasygoingFallowdeer-803.png

[fading spade]

o.o

[nimble current]

deep rock is quality

[hot spire]

it looks like a 90s jpeg on my screen

[bleak pike]

2230 seem to be becoming more available now

Maybe I'll get a 1tb soon

[fading spade]

2230?

[hot spire]

sabrent just relased them

only up to 1tb though

[fading spade]

why Steam got no taskbar icon now?

[nimble current]

windows 11 skill issue

[hot spire]

https://www.storagereview.com/news/sabrent-rocket-2230-a-small-form-factor-nvme-ssd-with-impressive-performance

[bleak pike]

@hot spire either out of stock or not in the UK

Pain

[fading spade]

Milfgaardian Soldier

oh

they have before they broke it still available

[fringe salmon]

what

[fading spade]

you can go back to the not next gen update through the beta version

in the game's properties

[fringe salmon]

I think your sentence is missing a word or so

[bleak pike]

^

[fading spade]

oop

[bleak pike]

One day I'll be able to download while my deck is sleeping

One day

Steam says 40 minutes for 130gb but if I installed on my SD it would be over an hour

But do I really wanna play in an hour? Nah

[fading spade]

NaN%

I wish I was this good at the game

https://youtu.be/VDiZZIb5SU8

[fading spade]

Waluigi is Forklift Certified

[ashen lark]

Fortnite is forknife certified

[bleak pike]

You updated it yet?

[ashen lark]

Not in Slovakia yet

[bleak pike]

Heard you're still 2 chapters behind ;) ;) ;)

[ashen lark]

Only?

[bleak pike]

Chapters not seasons :p

On OSX hehe

[ashen lark]

Chapter 1 was the best one by far

[fading spade]

I see im not the only one to be worried about this ;-;

FUCK MICROSOFT

[willow quiver]

why though

[fading spade]

cause Bedrock makes money

fuck tons of money

[willow quiver]

What about the servers and the mods?

If they aren't making bedrock like java then fuck Microsoft

[dire atlas]

the legacy will stay forever

don't worry

[fading spade]

Also. they dont want to have people using other OS's, which is why if they delete Minecraft Java no one can play Minecraft unless you have Windows or a console

[willow quiver]

bruh

[fading spade]

Cause they arent going to bring Bedrock to Mac and Linux....

[fringe salmon]

if that is the case or not could we link to articles or something else talking about it and not random clickbait youtube headlines