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fringe yacht
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hmm, not exactly sure how to rate this graph, would this still be considered decent or quite terrible already SwitchyThink

frigid ivy
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The problem is that their preference curve looks pretty non-standard

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So there's a lack of reference

quasi field
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Afaik the Soundguys curve is just an average of many headphone measurements

frigid ivy
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Just wish they included other widely used curve on their graph as well

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But overall that headphone seems pretty bright

quasi field
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And I dislike that bass shaping. Somewhat of a peak followed by a roll-off
But wouldn't be an issue to EQ

fringe yacht
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i mean i'm quite used to it by now after using it for about 2 years, just got curious how it's being judged by you folks that constantly post those graphs etc xD

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as for the bass i'm actually boosting that a lil, sounded kinda flat otherwise, but with that change i'd say it's decent, just no clue how it fares against all the other ones i keep seeing on here, gotta get a reference point some time and all

quasi field
obtuse dove
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no wonder the sensitivity is so low

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theyre trying to make something that does not want to bend well, bend

quasi field
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They seem to be looking for a problem where none exists

fringe yacht
obtuse dove
obtuse dove
fringe yacht
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if you'd translate what that peqdb means i might try it 😅

quasi field
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Personalised equalisation decibel? Idk what it means either haha

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Oh wait parametric

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duh

fringe yacht
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and that means in practice?

quasi field
fringe yacht
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hmm ok, which probably means i'll need a separate app for that then, also yea, just treat me like a total noob in terms of audio stuffs, most of my life i was just using headsets from logitech and using one of the default EQ settings and left it at that 😅

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just last month i started getting some "better" audio gear with a 2.1 speaker setup (klipsch promedia lumina) and that started making me more interested in the matter since i really felt the difference like day and night SwitchySippy

round lagoon
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The kind of headphone amp company want all to have.

quasi field
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The GR Research drama continues

frigid ivy
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Gr research?

quasi field
# frigid ivy Gr research?

It's a guy from Texas that sells speaker upgrades (that sometimes make the speakers worse which is why this current wave of drama is going on)
He also speaks a lot of nonsense and is big on cables making a difference to sound

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Some of his upgrade kits are good and actually improve speakers but some are $500 duds that just make them worse

frigid ivy
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Lol interesting

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There's way more snake oil in the speaker space cuz the margins are so much higher

quasi field
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I really want to try this

crude talon
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I think I had a pair of those akg buds but they only worked on one ear after a few weeks

patent patrol
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cuz stock those were pretty mid

quasi field
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With that they are good

mint yoke
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kz edc pro, nightcraft vesper

round lagoon
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@quasi field I've been to my local library, place cold as fuck and fan noise is even worse there

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Sennheiser's HD 480 Pro is a shockingly good $400 closed-back studio headphone that absolutely destroys it's competition, and redefines the standard for what a closed-back studio headphone ought to deliver.

Buy the Sennheiser HD 480 Pro: https://www.sennheiser.com/en-us/catalog/products/headphones/hd-480-pro/hd-480-pro-700499
Discuss the HD 480...

▶ Play video
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FUCK YEAH FINALLY

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similar enough that I might like it

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TLDR: Bass a bit too much, the dip near 180hz might make male vocal less body, treble pretty good. Overall, this bodies other closed back studio headphone (sony mdr m1, dt770 and 700 pro, and hd280) plus hd620 in terms of sound and comfort.

obtuse dove
versed fossil
waxen kite
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Anyone recommend some Iems ? 200-250

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Budget

round lagoon
waxen kite
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i have artics 5s

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rn

round lagoon
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hmm, assuming the tuning is as bad arctis 7, any IEM should be nice.

round lagoon
waxen kite
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not really

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i dont mind the sounnd on my current headphones

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but i want iems

round lagoon
waxen kite
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would i only need the iems

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no sound adapter

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or anything

round lagoon
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Assuming your motherboard isn't bad, you should be fine with the 3.5mm jack

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But if you wanna be safe, you can pick up fiio ka11 and it'll just occupy one of the usb c slot

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or apple dongle

waxen kite
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I have a B650-E

round lagoon
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hmm, hard to know based on just that, at best you can just order the IEM and test with the motherboard's 3.5mm jack and see if there's any issue. If there isn't any, you'll be fine.

waxen kite
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also is there anyway i dont have to put it in my jack?

proper vector
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Just use one of these if you don't have free USB-C

waxen kite
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i dont want to accidently knock over my pc

round lagoon
waxen kite
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oh i see

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ive also seen people put their iems into their microphone

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does anyone know where i can buy that type of microphone

proper vector
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Pretty much any USB mic has 3.5 output, even Blue Yeti (but please for the love of everything you cherish do not buy the Yeti*) nod

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Although you'll end up with way better sound quality with Apple dongle or JA11 nod

waxen kite
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ok i wont then

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thanks for the help

gray shuttle
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Some screens have an audio jack

rigid dagger
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there's a lower and higher power dongle

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and the hp dongle is not available in some regions

crude talon
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eu version is lower power but still easily enough to drive any normal headphones, especially talking iems

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they do have quite low volume if you use them on an android phone though

proven saddle
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what is a good monitor arm for a 26.5 inch asus monitor?

heady zenith
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one that works i assume

quasi field
quasi field
rigid dagger
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idk which ones are sold in Canada

quasi field
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The more powerful one I assume

rigid dagger
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same, I'd assume

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why did apple have to nerf their dongle in the EU?

quasi field
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I really hate the EU. They are such meddlers

rigid dagger
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for me im a bit torn on USB-PD

frigid ivy
rigid dagger
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I think it's good in a way but also kinda bad because you can potentially get juice jacked

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and then we have to get hardware level juice jacker blockers for USB chargers

quasi field
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What's juice jacking?

quasi field
frigid ivy
rigid dagger
frigid ivy
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even if you set the usb to charging only?

rigid dagger
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yeah, sometimes there can be bypasses

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so you have to use a hardware level blocker (adapter), where they dont have the data pins

frigid ivy
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are there known brands that have been caught?

rigid dagger
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its not really about that, it's about charging your phone or pc or device in public areas

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naomi brockwell made a video on it

frigid ivy
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ahh ok

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I usually bring my own brick

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but yeah open usb port charging station is a free-for-all

rigid dagger
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if you use a power brick (AC to DC) and a USB cable, then you don't have to worry

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as long as its not disgusing itself SwitchyStare

frigid ivy
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lol I do use some anker bricks, hopefully they haven't started doing shady stuff

rigid dagger
astral musk
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Damn idiots can't be trusted with technology havo

wheat epoch
# quasi field EU demands

Not even though. It's the fact that it doesn't communicate it's maximum output properly with android so the OS defaults to half volume to be safe

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But combined with the dongle already having half the output you now only get 1/4th

rich condor
obtuse dove
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apple really does try their best to stop people from making dumb decisions

rich condor
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So there's no additional benefit of lightning over USB-C like Aero implied?

obtuse dove
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apple does it on all their devices including ones with usb-c

round lagoon
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~$400-500

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It looks nice

elfin kayak
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Lighter ATK X1

vague sparrow
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somber minnow
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thoughts on g502?

crude talon
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brick

somber minnow
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ig bro but i rlly like the feel for me i dont enjoy playing with lighter mosuees

crude talon
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well u asked

vague sparrow
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viper > all

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for me

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now I didnt test all mouse on the market

dry summit
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ive heard good things about the razer viper, lots of pros use it SilvervaleNodders

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im still waiting on my zeromouse blade SilvervaleGimmes

versed fossil
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i might be going insane

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fingertip mice look cool

wispy blaze
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But I want one

versed fossil
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yeah but tbf i dont really only game so

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it would be weird

crude talon
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also have the x2f but idk where
its ass anyway

obtuse dove
versed fossil
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ik theres plus and pro

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or is it fenrir

crude talon
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yeah hsk pro

versed fossil
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how is it

crude talon
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there's also a v2

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I had a fenrir asym for a bit too

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I like the shape but the clicks are pretty poorly tensioned, my m1 and m2 feel slightly different and the sidebuttons feel wildly different

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my fenrir was better tensioned between buttons but the clicks were way too heavy for a fingertip mouse
also can't recommend buying from gwolves because my experience was horrible, if I ever wanted to shop from them again I would definitely get it through some reseller like maxgaming

versed fossil
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ah

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i mean i still should prob go with something else

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i wanna swap my mouse anyway

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eventually

crude talon
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yeah I like my x2 crazylight better than any of the other mice I've used too

versed fossil
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i was thinking of some pulsar

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just dont know which

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cuz theres lots

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why the fuck are there blue archive mice

crude talon
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depends on what you want but for fingertip the x2cl in mini size is really nice
and it still has a hump if you want some palm contact for stability sometimes, could also be clawed if u have small hands

crude talon
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those mice look like ass though

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just printed a picture of the character on the mouse, they did a better job with the demon slayer collabs I think

versed fossil
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i feel like lots of mice will be better than superlight 1 anyway

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there isnt a retailer for gwolves anyway so

crude talon
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maxgaming sells them in the eu at least but I don't know about other regions

versed fossil
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they sell hts plus only for me

crude talon
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gg

versed fossil
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all i know is that it seems pretty heavy for a fingertip mouse

crude talon
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heavy wide and heavy clicks
but width is preference so some people do like it, it's basically a regular mouse in shape but without the hump to enable greater range of motion

versed fossil
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ngl i do misclick alot

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they should def make it lighter though

crude talon
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heavy clicks are just not optimal for a fingertip mouse, with the limited contact area you have using only your fingertips, it’s very difficult to keep the cursor from moving when you click the mouse buttons

versed fossil
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ah

obtuse dove
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Specifically the mini sized ones

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Plus they fixed their sensor issues with initial batches with 3950 sensors with new firmware

crude talon
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it's nice if u don't mind the hump, definitely better than the x2f, especially the prototype units

obtuse dove
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It's really only the X2H mini that has the massive hump

crude talon
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its not huge but it still limits range of motion for fingertip, hump can be positive truth because you can get stability from it, but it still ends up being in the way if you want to maximize range of motion like a lot of fingertip mice aim to do

somber minnow
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what about the g502

twilit flame
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Brick

quasi field
quasi field
obtuse dove
elfin kayak
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ATK A9 Ultimate+ updated with 3955 sensor

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ATK A9 Air+ specs

obtuse dove
elfin kayak
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Just spec bumps with the new sensor

mint yoke
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i need it

quasi field
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RME is expected to announce their successor to the legendary ADI-2 dac in a few days. Curious to see how the new one is improved

radiant current
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Yall should i get the beast x for 155$ or save up 50$ to get the super strike?

bitter sapphire
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I would go with the beast x mouse just bc i hate logitech

elfin kayak
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or wait for the beast G coming out end of month

rigid dagger
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well

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LG just announced their new 25G590B, a 24.5" 1080p native kilohertz display

quasi field
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Yay I got to use the recycle emoji

patent patrol
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LG just announced their new 25G590B, a 24.5" 1080p native kilohertz display

quasi field
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Even my dog can hear the difference. Going from a mid level DAC to a higher end. Playing Amazing Grace with children singing. The dog had heard it hundreds of times before. First listen the dog is sniffing around the speakers looking for the children. What does that say about your blind tests and measurements.

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Wow that's a new one

round lagoon
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Sounds soo good it smells

white jackal
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Dog hit the stank face cause the music was so good and bro thought it was about the dac

quasi field
proper vector
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Audiocanine KEKW

versed fossil
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gosh i need to upgrade everything after i get my new pc

obtuse dove
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If you want a more normal mouse I'd go beastx or alternatively pulsar crazylight

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Lamzu is also good

versed fossil
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ngl ive never heard of the beast x

versed fossil
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and mod keeb more

radiant current
versed fossil
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ngl id legit use my model o over my superlight if shape was better and it wa wireless

quasi field
obtuse dove
radiant current
versed fossil
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yeah i see lots of people here are audio folks

quasi field
radiant current
radiant current
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Dude i literally JUST woke up

versed fossil
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I saw a bit about the hd 480 pros and they seem good for me

obtuse dove
quasi field
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Even when I'm not choosing the 5128

obtuse dove
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It is very unfortunate

quasi field
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Only these memes

versed fossil
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and their cheaper

quasi field
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Being newer doesn't matter. Good performance is ageless

versed fossil
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true

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but id need to read more about both

quasi field
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HD600 is from the 90s and is still very popular

versed fossil
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i didnt know sennhesier was that old

obtuse dove
obtuse dove
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tbf tho HD600 have recieved several revisions over the years

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but for the most part they've stayed the same.

versed fossil
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but yeah I think focal azurys or hd 480 pros are the ones i should decide between

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unless theres others that idk about

quasi field
obtuse dove
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yeah makes sense

quasi field
versed fossil
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yeah i heard hd 480 pros are comfortable asf

quasi field
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No matter which you pick I recommend EQing as it has a high chance of improving sound quality

versed fossil
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i shall read about that eventually then

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is there anything important with headphones too like dacs/amps, idk what they do ive just heard of them

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cuz i dont wanna dig myself into a rabbithole that doesnt really do anything

obtuse dove
quasi field
# versed fossil is there anything important with headphones too like dacs/amps, idk what they do...

Amplifier just amplifies the signal sent from the dac. You already have a dac and amplifier in your motherboard but it's hard to know how good they are. There's very little difference between a good amplifier/dac and a poor one. Humans are very bad at hearing distortion from amplifiers/dacs, and so the most likely thing you might hear from a poorly designed one will be a very bad reconstruction filter in the dac or audibly high noise floor which can happen with motherboard dacs when PCs with powerhungry graphic cards ramp up. I don't recommend spending much at all on an amplifier or dac as you can get the highest sound quality out of them for the price of a pizza

round lagoon
versed fossil
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hm ok

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i wont dig too much into it then

round lagoon
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looking at the techspec for hd480 pro, seems to be about the same as hd490.

quasi field
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Dacs and amplifiers are solved technology that have been built beyond human audibility. So getting one with the best sound quality possible which means that it doesn't impart any sort of sound of its own onto whatever passes through it is very easy to find and buy

obtuse dove
quasi field
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And you usually don't need that much power unless you're using the Lily Audio Genesis One

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I wish Sennheiser would make a wireless gaming headset again

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One that beats the A50

round lagoon
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someday

quasi field
# round lagoon someday

It needs a great microphone, good channel matching, spacious but not too spacious earpads with a comfy material, good leakage tolerance, low latency and good battery life

quasi field
# round lagoon someday

I just noticed Listener's measurements of the 480 are at his own eardrums which is a big WTF moment. That would be completely fine if he also showed measurements on a standardised rig but he DOESN'T so now I am left feeling that his measurements are mostly useless

obtuse dove
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I think it's their Inzone H9 gen 2

quasi field
quasi field
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A50 brootally mogs this

obtuse dove
quasi field
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He posted this recently but it's wired

elfin kayak
radiant current
crude talon
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plastic better

quasi field
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XM6 seems nicer to me without EQ

round lagoon
frigid ivy
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Think the bose ultra 2 would still be my anc pick

queen spindle
versed fossil
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i will have to check stores

queen spindle
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places like guitar center typically have display models

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it comes down to preference though, some people are bass sensitive and some are sensitive to high frequencies and if youre not mastering audio or trying to achieve the "sound intended by the audio engineer" go for what sounds good to you

quasi field
queen spindle
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i see what youre saying though

quasi field
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For a headphone to sound neutral requires a different frequency response person to person, but there are many ways in which they converge. A bass shelf of varying amplitude (which depends on gender and age) is typically required, as well as ear gain also of varying amplitude (but less variance than bass)

queen spindle
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im not disagreeing with you

quasi field
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Just elaborating a bit

somber minnow
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@crude talon thoughts on g502 wireless?

crude talon
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👴

somber minnow
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?

crude talon
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idk unc i never tried one

somber minnow
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well try one

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please

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your the expert

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so im told

crude talon
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🧂

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who told you my secret

somber minnow
glossy anvil
frigid ivy
round lagoon
quasi field
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So I was right?

round lagoon
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I might like this

quasi field
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They hated me because I spoke the truth...

round lagoon
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Mid focused bright leaning headphone is also what hd490 is to me. Though I do partly hope the midbass is not too much.

quasi field
# quasi field

Looking back at this it's too good. Should have made it more wiggly and uneven

obtuse dove
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rofl

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LMAO even

quasi field
round lagoon
quasi field
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I was 100% correct here

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The thread was about some guy buying amplifiers and dacs

proper vector
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I applaud your patience with dealing with Redd*tors cnisanySipSus

frigid ivy
# quasi field

I'm going up dm you the squig I have because idk if it's suppose to be public yet

obtuse dove
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Our ears have proven to be very unreliable when it comes to quantitative analysis

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Horrific even

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Esp since visual bias plays a role in that

obtuse dove
frigid ivy
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Guy on reddit said "grado-like" pepe_sweat

round lagoon
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I like this, I might REALLY like it.

vague sparrow
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Imagine the llm are all trained with reddit data

quasi field
obtuse dove
obtuse dove
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The koss fanboys will still gobble it up though

frigid ivy
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It's generally inoffensive

obtuse dove
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I would have expected better from DD headphones at 350 bucks

obtuse dove
round lagoon
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I'll wait for more measurement of the new koss before I make more judgement on it.

obtuse dove
# quasi field

Also, why is there just a random dip in the sub bass frequencies!? That's very unusual for electrostatics

frigid ivy
# quasi field

Think Vesper pads make it better but not that much better

quasi field
obtuse dove
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Yeah

quasi field
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Is the treble on the A/550 messy or fine

frigid ivy
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Depends on hrtf lmao

round lagoon
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From the graph, it looks okay, but might need some adjustment

obtuse dove
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Would need to see more measurements yeah

quasi field
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Just noticed the Summoning profile picture he has. My favourite BM band

round lagoon
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I got a stupid idea, why don't I just reduce the mids rather than increasing the bass and treble?

obtuse dove
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same difference type thing

round lagoon
quasi field
round lagoon
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No, this is the open back

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480 pro is the closed one

queen spindle
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why not buy beyers or sennheisers atp

obtuse dove
quasi field
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Apparently it's a 90s headphone

queen spindle
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can you not just get headphones that arent harman tuned then

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lol

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im assuming the frequency response on the headphones is supposed to be "90s"

obtuse dove
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because its easier to eq headphones/iems that measure smooth

round lagoon
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yess

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Gave it some listen, luckily it retains the identity of hd490 that I like, with minor bass shelf finally.

quasi field
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It bothers me that you don't at least correct for the bass roll-off neuroLookDown

round lagoon
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That's intentional, I just want it to match the blue

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I can totally fix it still

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For now, I'm trying it with +7 bass instead of +2

queen spindle
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what do you guys use to eq

quasi field
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Equaliser APO is the best but in the past I used the dedicated equalisation built into my RME ADI-2

round lagoon
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I'm using device EQ on my fiio qx13, that way EQ that I use on my macbook is the same as the one on my windows since it's just going through the dac.

quasi field
round lagoon
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I think part of the reason I don't like Oratory's EQ is that it's trying too hard to EQ to harman 2018, rather than keeping what I like about hd490.

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this one keeps it, and luckily it also almost matches harman 2018.

quasi field
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Please fix the subbass now. It's so sad when it bends like that its_over

round lagoon
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happy?

frigid ivy
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The topping dx1 ii is pretty crazy

quasi field
frigid ivy
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1w@32ohms from usb only

quasi field
frigid ivy
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Come a long way with usb only devices

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Used to be like 200 mw Max at 32ohms

round lagoon
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at just $120, well worth it imo

quasi field
# round lagoon happy?

I'm guessing that the main trait you like with it is the slight increase from around 1 to 2 kHz. If you EQ that down do you like it less

round lagoon
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hmm, 2db is nice enough of a difference where it's barely noticeable from the original tuning.

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But still has some changes to the sound.

obtuse dove
round lagoon
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this is prop what I'll settle on, +5 feels like it has some bass without it making my head dizzy trying to listen to it.

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I might come back to this to adjust more, but I am satisfied enough that for now, this will be my 'alternative' as hd490 with bass.

frigid ivy
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@quasi field have your tried a gsync pulsar yet?

obtuse dove
oblique totem
quasi field
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bro

vague sparrow
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Ok the guy from moore law is dead said the ram price issue should end in 18 months

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When the next gen console will come out

proper vector
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Only thing MLID is good for is random generation hanaSit
He is more of a speculation guy than reliable source of information

quasi field
vague sparrow
proper vector
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I want to believe Gaben

vague sparrow
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Would be crazy

quasi field
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I actually 100% true to heart believe HL3 isn't just being worked on right now but has been worked on for several years by now and that we are close to a reveal

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And I believe that the reveal was going to be last year but was delayed to the shortage and price issues

vague sparrow
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Yeah after so many years wouldnt be crazy they could come with a new game

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But I wish they would not tease it first like one day you see the steam machine available and half life 3 at the same time

drowsy rapids
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I wanna start building a pc, should i look for AMD or Nvidea, i don't wanna spend like 3k on a good gpu and cpu

vague sparrow
quasi field
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The biggest reason I see people say they don't believe in HL3 is because they think the game is too hype to the point Valve won't take the chance since they think they can't meet that hype. But I think that is vastly overestimating the expectations people actually have for the game and I think it's obvious a company wouldn't really do this anyway. There is a ton of money to be had with HL3 and I also think there are many developers at Valve including Gaben that would just love to work on a new Half Life. Making a HL3 that meets expectations is not some mythological impossible ordeal

proper vector
vague sparrow
drowsy rapids
quasi field
vague sparrow
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At 2k no way I would get a 5080

quasi field
drowsy rapids
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The netherlands

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Oh wait yeah like 1250

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Huh tf

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I just looked like 20 minutes avo

quasi field
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5080 + 9800X3D and you are in the top 1% of PC gamers

vague sparrow
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Yeah

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Now I would hesistate between the 9070xt and the 5080

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Nvidia has better feature but amd is way cheaper

dry summit
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im happy with my 5070 Ti that i got for less than 1000€ SilvervaleLurkies

quasi field
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I have a 5070 zzz

drowsy rapids
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and my friend in top 20%

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because he doesn’t wanma spend too much at all

quasi field
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Then you ask someone else because I don't really pay much attention to graphic cards or CPUs anymore, sorry

drowsy rapids
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Oh alright thanks

proper vector
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this channel was made for such things hanaSit

proper vector
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No, you don't get to claim this channel to talk only about squiggles SilvervaleSprays

round lagoon
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tbf, this is where I think something not in PC and not keyboard

quasi field
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PC gear implies gear to a PC, while graphic cards and processors are the PC itself

dry summit
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i agree with that SilvervaleNodders

proper vector
quasi field
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I remember in my final year of high school I was asked by the teacher to make a receiver in the school auditorium work because there was no audio. I was very clueless back then and so when I looked at the digital volume display it displayed a number in dB in minus such as -60 dB. Back then I thought this somehow meant that the volume was «minus quiet» and so I turned it up all the way to 0 thinking that this was still «muted» but not «extra muted». When I eventually figured the sound out and something played it was the loudest sound I had ever heard and it scared everyone

ivory tiger
#

I am back on OLED @proper vector @bitter sapphire AE_Happy

#

it feels so good

heady crystal
#

OLED SwitchyPog

#

Is it the same model?

ivory tiger
#

yes

#

my lovely XG27AQWMG

#

and grey banding is so much less bad on this one. probably have to update the firmware?

heady crystal
#

MCM107 is the latest firmware

#

Although that improves the banding on older models

bitter sapphire
#

yeah mine improved a lilbit

terse ferry
#

But update firmware first

crude talon
#

whad da hel

proud quartz
#

Tuff sauce

normal saddle
wispy blaze
ivory tiger
#

It feels so good now

vague sparrow
#

I wish there was a lighter naga

frigid ivy
#

the only thing even remotely close is the SteelSeries Aerox 9 and even that doesn't have the ring finger rest

blissful gust
#

I should probably update my monitor but have no idea how to

#

Guessing the USB C port?

frigid ivy
#

ye

#

or maybe USB-B sometimes

proper vector
#

Usually gotta connect USB to PC and run some app from manufacturer
Can't flash .bin by yourself sadcat

frigid ivy
#

imagine being able to flash with just a USB stick and a button like moden mobos

blissful gust
#

I mean it only has a usb c port

#

And it has firmware I can download

#

Ah it's over DP

frigid ivy
#

nice no need to awkwardly plug in another cable into the monitor

real oxide
#

Hey guys and girls.
One question: Razer Viper v4 pro or Logitech Superstrike X2?
Any advice would be great!

frigid ivy
#

depends if you spam click a lot

#

superstrike will feel "easier"

obtuse dove
real oxide
#

Hmm, i dont spam it that much.. I mean, i was watching lots of reviews and comparisons between those 2, each one has its pros and cons. Build quality, battery life, weight is on the razer side, but the clicks and tech- logitech. Im just torn between those 2

#

Also heard that oem skates on x2 are garbage...

obtuse dove
#

They're good for glass pads

#

But otherwise I would swap them for ptfe skates

#

Superstrike click feel is nowhere near like a regular click

#

It is its own haptic type feeling mouse click

dry moon
#

do you think the superstrike is a bit of a gimmick?

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i feel like after optical stuff came out there isnt really a need for anything else, at least for the majority of people

obtuse dove
dry moon
#

hmmm

frigid ivy
#

it's almost a must for any type of spam clicking scenerios

dry moon
#

i guess

#

i can see the adjustable click feel being useful

obtuse dove
#

Although just saying I just got my superstrike a little over a day ago lmao

dry moon
#

how do you like it?

#

i started to stray away from the mainstream mice after the release of the viper v2

#

i got a hitscan hyperlight and havent looked back, mostly because of the price differences

obtuse dove
dry moon
#

which skates ?

obtuse dove
#

Corepad ones

dry moon
#

are they more for speed or control?

frigid ivy
#

original corepads was control-ish

#

thicker usually more control

obtuse dove
#

Nowhere near as slow as the UHMWPE stock skates

#

I'd say only keep the stock skates if you use a glass pad

frigid ivy
#

I've been liking my jades on my GPX2

dry moon
#

what pad do you use?

obtuse dove
#

Soft

dry moon
#

ive heard abt pulsar pads

frigid ivy
#

is that faster or slower than the saturn?

dry moon
#

are you able to compare them to artisans?

obtuse dove
frigid ivy
#

oo

obtuse dove
obtuse dove
#

Just comes down to what type of mousepad material and texture you want

dry moon
#

would you rec any control pads from them?

obtuse dove
dry moon
#

i was thinking of getting a control pad as ive only used speed pads for the last 5 years

obtuse dove
#

And then mercury and Neptune pro are speed pads

dry moon
#

would you rec soft or med, or is it more personal pref

obtuse dove
#

Although if you intend on using dot skates I would go medium

dry moon
#

i was only asking bc i was going to get the artisan fx zero

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as i already own a hien, but it its around $100

#

the saturn is much cheaper, but im a bit skeptical

frigid ivy
dry moon
#

might just end up getting both ngl

dry moon
#

its $102 on amazon, though ive seen $90 other places

frigid ivy
#

from JPgaming?

#

shipping still might be high but no more than 70

real oxide
#

so wish i was in US, right here in Serbia we dont have so many options lol

#

Not even for the skates, i would have to order them and wait for few weeks till they arrive...

dry moon
#

now i really am forsure getting both

frigid ivy
#

just for the zero right?

#

got a lil confused unless it's both a zero and a hein?

dry moon
#

nah i was just looking at the zero

#

im using the hien rn lol

frigid ivy
#

it cost $72.38 to ship a XL Zero to me

dry moon
#

thats not bad

#

it was roughly 80 for me when i got it

#

the hien*

frigid ivy
#

but yeah no one should be buying artisan from amazon now and then asking on reddit to see if it real or not

dry moon
#

nah thats crazy

obtuse dove
#

I was today years old that I found out that you can slightly bend the headband of the HD600/650 to reduce the clamping pressure.

#

LMAO

#

omg its so much better

wet coral
obtuse dove
wet coral
#

well im scared because 560s is all plastic carstare

obtuse dove
#

fair enough

obtuse dove
tulip tide
fiery surge
#

Im looking to buy a speed clothpad.

What are some control based dot skates i can use along with it? Im trying to move away from completing a minimal setup and want to put some personal touches on it.

For reference this is what I plan on buying

https://www.arcaloot.com/products/crimson-shadow

ArcaLoot

Enhance your setup with Crimson Shadow by ArcaLoot, a premium gaming mousepad for gamers seeking the perfect balance of performance, comfort, and style.

tulip tide
#

tbtl v2 pom

fiery surge
# tulip tide i use these aliexpress pom skates on cloth and they are pretty good
Ausmodshop

BT.L Mouse Skates are manufactured to be super smooth and as resistant to wear as possible 40x 6mm circular dots 0.8mm thickness Application - Generic / DIY Quantity - 40 dots Edges - RoundedBrand - BT.L Mouse Skates (mouse feet) *Alcohol wipes not included

hazy fiber
#

If you want control skates, get hardened PTFE like Xraypad Obsidians

#

POM skates won't be slow

tulip tide
#

ah ive missed the control part in the sentence, i use them on proper mudpads and they are nice

#

zowie gsr3 iirc

fiery surge
#

Waiting for the x2h crazylight to be available

#

Then ill buy that and the dot skates

#

Along with the mousepad lol

tulip tide
tacit linden
#

Mouse before I bought my v3 es was the Zowie EC2, I like the shape on both of them a lot.

fiery surge
#

I was gonna go for the x2h v3 es but uhhh i wasnt a fan of the 65g thing. People have made weight of the mouse such a big thing. That i feel like if i jumped from a viper v3 to it the difference in weight would be crazy

#

And my poor bristle hands will shatter

tulip tide
#

as long as its under 70g its fine for me

fiery surge
#

Im also a claw gripper so ig its shape works out

#

I used a 2 dex and loved it

#

Which i think is 62g or whatever

crude talon
#

holy brick

fringe yacht
#

pfft, i won't ever understand people that can handle those ultra light mice, like i tried one once, felt like cheapest crap due to the lack of weight and it also didn't help much that my precision was totally off because of it 😅

#

100+ for me (plus cable) or it's a big nope 😄

fiery surge
#

I kinda felt like 60g is decent. I was thinking about trying a budget lightweight mouse and see how it goes

fringe yacht
#

i actually was playing with the thought of getting a basilisk v3 pro 35k (as in the wireless version) simply because it's 11g heavier than the wired version, as in 101g vs 112g, but the price point was a lil too steep for a testrun, if i could really switch from logi to razer now

crude talon
#

almost sounds like a crutch at that point, you can train your fine motor skills instead of making it heavier, or get a slower mousepad

fiery surge
#

I read that the sound of the clicks on the superstrike is really low

#

Which is a huge plus to me haha

#

But that white coating

crude talon
#

yeah I know someone else who has the same problem lol

fiery surge
#

I would buy it if the white coating doesnt turn yellow

rustic mesa
#

Mouse people please advise Pray

Ive bought like 3 g pro's and I love them, but my scroll wheels keep tweaking. Every single one. Do I get a superstrike and pray it doesnt happen again or is there like a valid alternative

fiery surge
#

Or if they release a colour that matches the desk pad im getting

fiery surge
crude talon
dry summit
#

i have heard logitech also have problems with their mice randomly flicking in a direction in fps games sometimes
like it spasms out and youre suddenly looking at the floor SilvervaleGiggles

fiery surge
#

My 2 dex had some connectivity issues and they basically told me it’s defective and gave me a letter to say to return it

crude talon
#

logi click and scroll lasting just sounds like qc lottery

fringe yacht
crude talon
#

I’m not saying you can’t
just buying something new just because it’s heavier sounds a bit strange, especially if you prefer wired lol

bitter sapphire
fringe yacht
#

and considering i was using a g502 hero with full weights inside it was quite the big drop from 121+18 to 101, but it was the first razer mouse i saw that had pretty much the same design and i was simply fed up with logi due to 3 502 heros breaking after about a year tops

#

still kinda playing with the thought of opening it up and adding some weight to it somehow tho, but other than that it was a pleasant surprise

bitter sapphire
#

and before the cm310 mouse i had the Bloody A90 mouse KEKL

#

that mouse was 143g KEKL

fiery surge
#

I lived by the g403 years ago

#

No other mouse felt the same to me

#

I still have it as my emergency backup lmao

obtuse dove
#

Yeah the stock clamping force is so high

vague sparrow
#

I just wish razer could update the naga making it lighter

tacit linden
# obtuse dove Yeah the stock clamping force is so high

The HD6XX family takes like 6 months+ to widen so it doesn't clamp so damn hard. I compared my brand new one to my old one and the old one has like a 5cm gap between the cups while on the table and the new one is touching. Old one so much more comfortable.

obtuse dove
tacit linden
#

I'll let my head do the bending 😮

#

Don't want to snap it hehe

tribal shadow
#

Mike took 2 weeks before it was comfy

#

I heavily recommemd a comfort strap tho

tacit linden
#

I've had my 660S2s for like a month or something now and they look same as when I got them, no gap between the cups yet.

tacit linden
obtuse dove
tacit linden
#

Ah like that, nah I never liked those, they always break on all the headsets I've used over time.

#

I had 2 Fidelio X2HR lost all the boing

elfin kayak
#

there's a capra for the 6xx family

tacit linden
#

Do you remove the stock pad if you use one of those?

obtuse dove
elfin kayak
#

doesnt look like it

obtuse dove
elfin kayak
#

dang misread as replace the pad

tulip tide
#

ohh that looks interesting

#

i recently replaced the stock foam head strap on mine but this looks more comfortable

tacit linden
#

My headset is mostly held up by the cuffs, the headband itself doesn't do much.

tribal shadow
#

The print files for capra straps are public

obtuse dove
tulip tide
#

might try printing with tpu for the first time 😅

obtuse dove
tulip tide
tribal shadow
#

harold i hate tpu man

#

But you reminded me that i wanted to print one for my lan party headset

tulip tide
#

get to printing

tribal shadow
#

No

#

Get to drying

obtuse dove
#

yeah LOL

frigid ivy
#

Love my capra strap on my D1

round lagoon
#

Hmm, the difference is like vocal feeling like they're 'talking' to me to almost 'screaming' to me.

#

The original (hd490) feels more neutral to me.

#

hd600's treble now and no matter which measurement I use to EQ hd490 with (earphonearchive and super review), it doesn't sound right to me.

#

Feels too confined.

#

Maybe I should do a first hand listen on hd600 again, just for sanity check.

tacit linden
#

Does anyone use UWPHook today for the Steam Controller or is there a better alternative?

#

Doesn't look to be maintained anymore.

slender pier
#

is wooting he still good

#

or are there better alternatives

#

v2 is too expensive

vital gorge
#

Which keyboard?

frigid ivy
#

Other keyboard brand hardware are on par or straight up better than wooting. But wooting software is just so much better than everyone else

mental spade
#

Software/firmware gapped, most HE boards use the same manufacturers to make the actual PCB and firmware and as a result updates are limited and bugs are unlikely to be fixed

round lagoon
#

Curiosity has been answered

quasi field
round lagoon
#

Im gonna die listening with either pads lmao

glossy anvil
#

there are "better" options but i think most people will not gonna notice the feel or sounds that much

#

its a good overall product

#

as for latency they say its better tahn wooting but its like fractions of milliseconds

slender pier
#

i dont want to spend so much on wooting

#

and i want features like SOCD and rapid trigger

glossy anvil
#

i heard atk rs7 air is good tho thats just someone from another discord saying that

#

and from what i seen the software looks not bad looking imo

#

tho i never owned the board or any of atk boards

#

heard their new boards are fine but the older ones are bad

slender pier
#

ill research later but

#

im js multitasking

glossy anvil
#

for me is like 100 dollars

slender pier
#

yeah

#

that makes sense

#

id rather spend 100 over

#

200

#

wooting tag has aura tho ngl

#

its gonna give me the ego boost

slender pier
glossy anvil
#

wooting 80he

slender pier
#

is it really worth the price 😭

#

or the price is just for the name

glossy anvil
#

you paying for the software and warranty which i suppose is part of the name

slender pier
#

its 120 right

#

thats not bad

obtuse dove
glossy anvil
#

its 155 dollars for me

#

doesnt seem too bad

wispy blaze
#

Ive had my 60he 3 years, love this thing

lament siren
final ingot
#

will the wooting 80He keyboard be good for single player games? using the analog movement?

patent patrol
#

new meta

heady crystal
#

Apple at home:

quasi field
#

Looks uncomfortable to move around

proper vector
#

Ah yes, design over usability neko_lurk

deep hawk
#

At least the charging port is on the correct face

heady zenith
vital gorge
dry summit
vital gorge
#

screw holes in the front for your fingers to dig in to.
sharp edges
0 ergonomics
small weird buttons

proper vector
heady zenith
#

so apparently

#

this dude is a designer and i think this might just be a design not a real product

heady zenith
#

especially looking at the other images

crude talon
#

gigachad ortho keyboard

vital gorge
#

its a cool design, not a practical one 😄

crude talon
#

wooting dactyl when

proper vector
# heady zenith

So much of form over function SwitchySippy
That keyboard looks like a nightmare to type on

heady zenith
#

yes its a concept from what i can read on his own posts

quasi field
#

Knobs too close to keys I often press

heady zenith
#

same for the keyboard

vital gorge
vital gorge
#

very cool looking though. very impractical

heady zenith
#

such is usually what happens with designers who dont actually prototype irl but just virtual

#

or if the entire point is looksmaxxing

vital gorge
#

that vinyl player.. where is the needle?

heady zenith
#

in the body of the player ofc

vital gorge
#

yes, but how do you get the disc in without scratching it horribly ? XD

heady zenith
#

id assume the idea is it rides along the thicker bottom

heady zenith
#

youd basically also only scratch the outside anyway since thats where you start play from

#

id be more interested how the spindle retracts and then actually secures it enough to spin

proud quartz
heady zenith
#

guess what its inspired by

proud quartz
#

Ah explains it

tribal shadow
# heady zenith

harold yea otherwise there wouldn't be a linear pot on that keyboard

plain schooner
astral musk
elfin kayak
blissful gust
#

Is that the receiver?....

proud quartz
hazy fiber
elfin kayak
#

also this weird gourd thing

blissful gust
versed fossil
#

idk why i like ftip mice so much they look so cool

#

but idk if i could main one

#

i dont have the money to test mice

elfin kayak
#

there's also the darmoshark m5 air v2 updated with 54L15 mcu

versed fossil
#

just another tryx panorama

#

but more similar to ryuo iv

#

Idc about this noctua aio gonna be better surely

wispy blaze
#

The other shit attached to it isnt part of it, thats a usb splitter I think

crude talon
rotund tree
#

i got a g502x 2 years ago and both the side buttons and the DPI buttons started double clicking recently PepeHands

obtuse dove
rotund tree
#

im a sucker for the scroll wheel :(

obtuse dove
#

Or do you really really want 1000Hz+ polling?

rotund tree
#

i do but it's not totally stupid to have a dedicated gaming mouse in addition to be honest......

slender pier
#

lemme cop it aswell

obtuse dove
slender pier
obtuse dove
#

X2 crazylight mini is 35 grams

#

Perfect for ftip

slender pier
#

how to get the ihaswooting role

obtuse dove
obtuse dove
slender pier
#

my refurbished keyboard

#

gonna come soon

crude talon
obtuse dove
#

Not 32smh

crude talon
obtuse dove
#

I mean 37g is still really good for ftip with solid shell

#

You can comfortably claw grip it too

#

I forget how much the medium crazylight weighs

#

39g?

crude talon
obtuse dove
#

On my crazylight

#

The ptfe dots specifically

crude talon
#

only like 9% off then
idek if i got those with mine, was a return unit

#

I should check the box but even the full size stock skates didn't feel especially good

obtuse dove
crude talon
#

ew

obtuse dove
#

I got some generic 100% ptfe dots

#

I think it was tiger ice ptfe dots

crude talon
#

I have jade air dots but I only use those on glass
artisan dots for me since I use an xsoft hien

#

im the guy with way too many expensive dots on my mouse

crude talon
#

I wish the cl was flat bottom

obtuse dove
crude talon
#

yeah fuck skate cutouts

obtuse dove
#

It's not that crazy deep

crude talon
#

they are the reason i have to put a whole pack of skates on the bottom

obtuse dove
crude talon
#

but then i dont have artisan street cred

#

I'll probably get full size skates next time

obtuse dove
crude talon
#

after I feel like I need to replace them, I got a few more when artisan was including them with pads

#

artisan pad, skates, artisan mouse, artisan monitor, artisan pc

obtuse dove
#

Lmao

crude talon
#

so many zero collabs even 2000fun is back

#

I should get the zebra to match my crazylight but I don't wanna pay the import lol

#

maybe when i go to japan if theres still any stock

frigid ivy
#

ultimate weeb dac amp

twilit flame
#

@proper vector

crude talon
#

lemme just use this instead of a mouse on my mousepad

quasi field
#

Not sure how I feel about it being tilted

#

Don't you think that makes it less comfortable to adjust volume? It's so high up

#

I prefer being able to do it easily with my hand resting on the desk

crude talon
#

the big chin on the bottom and that chin not being flat with the desk and the very steep angle is kinda goofy

#

I wouldn't mind the angle if it was a bit lower

frigid ivy
#

headphone jacks being on the side is kinda meh too, but it's better than on the angle face

round lagoon
obtuse dove
#

HMMMMMM

quasi field
obtuse dove
quasi field
#

There has been plenty of research how the human ear interprets a flat frequency response. Boring, lifeless and uninvolving are common descriptors
weird
Sure true if thinking of a headphone that has no bass-shelf and no ear-gain, that would sound weird and bad
And a loudspeaker with a flat frequency response will probably be bright in an average living room without equalisation
But this is otherwise nonsense. What «plenty of research» is there?

valid drift
#

mmm

#

i want a server for myself

heady zenith
#

people should embrace the "everyone experiences sound differently" mentallity

sharp fiber
obtuse dove
sharp fiber
#

jades are horrible on glass

valid drift
#

what else can i do with a server pc besides like

obtuse dove
valid drift
#
  • pihole
  • run minecraft servers
  • run something like plex
quasi field
proud quartz
obtuse dove
quasi field
obtuse dove
#

because of how your brain percieves sound.

quasi field
#

Also I think this is an interesting post about how similar people actually can be: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/harman-curve-compliance.63222/post-2395990

quasi field
# round lagoon

I know a SolderDude post when I see one. He's not wrong. But many do not EQ either such as noobs that can't be bothered or don't understand it

white jackal
#

when i was like 12 i used to think eq means you put a giant v shape in when you want to listen to dubstep OMEGALUL

normal saddle
crude talon
hazy fiber
#

those pulsar uhmwpe dots are the worst and it's not even good for glass

#

they are flat and feel like crap

obtuse dove
sharp fiber
# crude talon nah

Maybe pulsar makes bad ones, but obsidian pro airs are legit the best dots / donuts for glass. Also silent

Jades suck major ass and wear soio quick

crude talon
#

Never used the pulsar ones but I have obs pro and I don’t like them at all

quasi field
fiery surge
#

My brother is after a 49” ultrawide monitor. It is for work use only. He wants it to be 4k. LED and not that curved

quasi field
fiery surge
#

1000R is way too curved for him

round lagoon
quasi field
#

The bass shelf goes up to 600 Hz...

patent patrol
#

this one gonna sell

sharp fiber
round lagoon
quasi field
#

It's one of my least favourite things. Mid/upper-bass that is too elevated with sub-bass that is rolling-off lower in amplitude than it

#

Sub-bass should be higher than upper-bass since our hearing is less sensitive further down

white jackal
round lagoon
round lagoon
quasi field
white jackal
#

i think my mic suddenly died

#

😭

bitter sapphire
#

Sadge

white jackal
#

any mic + dac recommendations?

deep hawk
normal saddle
#

Neumann U87 smile/s

deep hawk
#

On the recommendation of some folks here

#

I don't use it for my mic though

white jackal
#

these sudden expenses cause something randomly dies are the worst

#

😭

deep hawk
#

Indeed

mental spade
white jackal
#

i need to be worried about those too

mental spade
#

they are about 8 years old so it's entering higher probability

white jackal
#

at first i thought something about windows broke but then i tried it on my laptop and it still didnt work

#

i was having such a good time listening to music and then the vibe was ruined

deep hawk
#

Press the reset button on your vibes, brotherman
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white jackal
#

sounds so off with the motherboard output

#

😭

white jackal
#

anyway, anyone got mic recommendations?

twilit flame
#

im still using am8

white jackal
#

maybe i should just get an audio interface so i can use XLR mic and plug in my headphones there

#

but idk

#

where are all the super opinionated audio people when i need them

quasi field
#

Yes

#

They are good (when measured and EQed)

white jackal
#

soriamoria you probably know what dac/amp and mic i should get

#

if i think about it too much i'll never decide

quasi field
white jackal
#

edition xs

#

my mic died that i also ran my headphones off so i need new gear

quasi field
#

And it's under $100 or sumting

white jackal
#

oh?

#

that sounds nice

#

didnt want to spend so much since its a lil unexpected of an expense 😅

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so under 100 is good

quasi field
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You can of course amplify the Hifiman for far cheaper but this one has a volume knob and PEQ

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No external PSU either so less clutter

white jackal
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sounds good to me

quasi field
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(I'm not a Topping marketeer)

white jackal
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i trust you cause i know you're not one of those audiophile people that think you need to spend 8000 dollars on a tube amp that uses vintage vacuum tubes used in the first ibm computer or some bs

quasi field
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They haven't been very relevant for a while. Audible perfect conversion and amplification can be had dirt cheap

white jackal
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yeah that makes sense

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anyway, i ordered it, now i just need to find a mic

quasi field
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What you might pay extra for is features design and power. Some things are also just expensive because a lot of audio stuff is veblen goods

white jackal
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not sure if i should get xlr mic + some interface or a usb mic

quasi field
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I'd go USB since it's more convenient. I had an XLR mic before and it was a load of bullshit

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And I don't think being USB or XLR has any relevance for sound quality beyond the quality of mic and components themselves, if applying general audio logic here. So there are probably amazing USB microphones out there (just as there are terrible XLR microphones)

white jackal
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yeah it was more of a "do i want to spend the same amount on usb mic or xlr + interface"

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cause if mic dies on the xlr side i can just get a new cheaper mic and i'm not completely out of luck

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more points of failure but cheaper points of failure

quasi field
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That's true but is that big maybe worth the extra clunk of having an extra device on your desk at all times

white jackal
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yeah

quasi field
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Same thing with when people buy a separate amplifier and dac instead of a single unit

white jackal
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and if i travel around and want to use mic

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usb mic it is