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The problem is that their preference curve looks pretty non-standard
So there's a lack of reference
Didn't it score the same as Harman 2018? Or very close at least
Afaik the Soundguys curve is just an average of many headphone measurements
Just wish they included other widely used curve on their graph as well
But overall that headphone seems pretty bright
And I dislike that bass shaping. Somewhat of a peak followed by a roll-off
But wouldn't be an issue to EQ
i mean i'm quite used to it by now after using it for about 2 years, just got curious how it's being judged by you folks that constantly post those graphs etc xD
as for the bass i'm actually boosting that a lil, sounded kinda flat otherwise, but with that change i'd say it's decent, just no clue how it fares against all the other ones i keep seeing on here, gotta get a reference point some time and all
I assume by sounding flat you mean it had too little bass since the ideal is for it to sound «flat/balanced» at your eardrums, which does require a bass boost
no wonder the sensitivity is so low
theyre trying to make something that does not want to bend well, bend
Funny how the marketing contradicts the end result
clarity without harshness
Meanwhile it has bad distortion
Resolution without artificial emphasis
It has too much treble
Speed without distortion
Lol
They seem to be looking for a problem where none exists
well, by flat i mean the deeper sounds were not audible enough so i'd sometimes miss engine sounds from tanks in war thunder for example because it went under in the higher sounds etc
yeah, just look at something like the DC audio cornia or Aeon.
EQ to peqdb diamond and you will get the thump you want without it sounding unnatural.
if you'd translate what that peqdb means i might try it 😅
Personalised equalisation decibel? Idk what it means either haha
Oh wait parametric
duh
and that means in practice?
Parametric EQ is just a much more customisable and accurate way of doing EQ
hmm ok, which probably means i'll need a separate app for that then, also yea, just treat me like a total noob in terms of audio stuffs, most of my life i was just using headsets from logitech and using one of the default EQ settings and left it at that 😅
just last month i started getting some "better" audio gear with a 2.1 speaker setup (klipsch promedia lumina) and that started making me more interested in the matter since i really felt the difference like day and night 
The kind of headphone amp company want all to have.
Can you use AI to back your claims? GR Research thinks so. Let's analyze.
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Gr research?
It's a guy from Texas that sells speaker upgrades (that sometimes make the speakers worse which is why this current wave of drama is going on)
He also speaks a lot of nonsense and is big on cables making a difference to sound
Some of his upgrade kits are good and actually improve speakers but some are $500 duds that just make them worse
Lol interesting
There's way more snake oil in the speaker space cuz the margins are so much higher
ohno
The Samsung EO-IA500, as of May 16 2026, are still the best sounding IEMs in the world, and nothing comes close, aside from the multi-thousand dollar Audeze LCD-i4.
Samsung EO-IA500 EQ below:
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I really want to try this
I think I had a pair of those akg buds but they only worked on one ear after a few weeks
dont wanna watch, is there some eq you gotta add?
cuz stock those were pretty mid
Yes of course. You also buy gear to measure them as well to correct for channel imbalance/unit variation
With that they are good
kz edc pro, nightcraft vesper
@quasi field I've been to my local library, place cold as fuck and fan noise is even worse there
Sennheiser's HD 480 Pro is a shockingly good $400 closed-back studio headphone that absolutely destroys it's competition, and redefines the standard for what a closed-back studio headphone ought to deliver.
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Discuss the HD 480...
FUCK YEAH FINALLY
similar enough that I might like it
TLDR: Bass a bit too much, the dip near 180hz might make male vocal less body, treble pretty good. Overall, this bodies other closed back studio headphone (sony mdr m1, dt770 and 700 pro, and hd280) plus hd620 in terms of sound and comfort.
Hmmm
ooo comfort i love me some comfortable headphones
what sort of earphone/headphone you're listened to and like before?
hmm, assuming the tuning is as bad arctis 7, any IEM should be nice.
Any particular sound signature that you like? (high bass, clear treble, clear mids, etc etc)
Then my default recc would be crinear Daybreak. ~$150 ish.
Assuming your motherboard isn't bad, you should be fine with the 3.5mm jack
But if you wanna be safe, you can pick up fiio ka11 and it'll just occupy one of the usb c slot
or apple dongle
I have a B650-E
hmm, hard to know based on just that, at best you can just order the IEM and test with the motherboard's 3.5mm jack and see if there's any issue. If there isn't any, you'll be fine.
also is there anyway i dont have to put it in my jack?
Just use one of these if you don't have free USB-C
i dont want to accidently knock over my pc
I would get 3.5mm extender and place it somewhere easily reachable, then you just plug your iem there
oh i see
ive also seen people put their iems into their microphone
does anyone know where i can buy that type of microphone
Pretty much any USB mic has 3.5 output, even Blue Yeti (but please for the love of everything you cherish do not buy the Yeti*) 
Although you'll end up with way better sound quality with Apple dongle or JA11 
Some screens have an audio jack
i remember there are 2 types of apple dongles
there's a lower and higher power dongle
and the hp dongle is not available in some regions
eu version is lower power but still easily enough to drive any normal headphones, especially talking iems
they do have quite low volume if you use them on an android phone though
what is a good monitor arm for a 26.5 inch asus monitor?
one that works i assume
Wish he would use a real target
I have the nerfed European one and it still gave me plenty of headroom for my Variations
happy to hear!
idk which ones are sold in Canada
The more powerful one I assume
EU demands
I really hate the EU. They are such meddlers
for me im a bit torn on USB-PD
at least they forced apple to adopt usbc
I think it's good in a way but also kinda bad because you can potentially get juice jacked
and then we have to get hardware level juice jacker blockers for USB chargers
What's juice jacking?
One of the few good things
when a little gremlin steals your apple juice
harvesting data while charging without consent
even if you set the usb to charging only?
yeah, sometimes there can be bypasses
so you have to use a hardware level blocker (adapter), where they dont have the data pins
are there known brands that have been caught?
its not really about that, it's about charging your phone or pc or device in public areas
naomi brockwell made a video on it
ahh ok
I usually bring my own brick
but yeah open usb port charging station is a free-for-all
if you use a power brick (AC to DC) and a USB cable, then you don't have to worry
as long as its not disgusing itself 
lol I do use some anker bricks, hopefully they haven't started doing shady stuff
if there is no wifi shenanigans you should be ok
Because we are at an all time high of teens with permanent ear damage.
Damn idiots can't be trusted with technology 
so true bro 
Not even though. It's the fact that it doesn't communicate it's maximum output properly with android so the OS defaults to half volume to be safe
But combined with the dongle already having half the output you now only get 1/4th
Since lightning used USB protocol, wouldn't it also be susceptible to juice jacking?
only if the user was stupid enough to click 'allow usb accessory'
apple really does try their best to stop people from making dumb decisions
So there's no additional benefit of lightning over USB-C like Aero implied?
nah its a general security feature
apple does it on all their devices including ones with usb-c
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I think I will get this controller
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thoughts on g502?
brick
ig bro but i rlly like the feel for me i dont enjoy playing with lighter mosuees
well u asked
ive heard good things about the razer viper, lots of pros use it 
im still waiting on my zeromouse blade 
lighter mice are PEAK 
They all way too skinny for me
But I want one
@quasi field https://youtu.be/uMiVVsn2OCw
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yeah hsk pro
how is it
there's also a v2
I had a fenrir asym for a bit too
I like the shape but the clicks are pretty poorly tensioned, my m1 and m2 feel slightly different and the sidebuttons feel wildly different
my fenrir was better tensioned between buttons but the clicks were way too heavy for a fingertip mouse
also can't recommend buying from gwolves because my experience was horrible, if I ever wanted to shop from them again I would definitely get it through some reseller like maxgaming
ah
i mean i still should prob go with something else
i wanna swap my mouse anyway
eventually
yeah I like my x2 crazylight better than any of the other mice I've used too
i was thinking of some pulsar
just dont know which
cuz theres lots
why the fuck are there blue archive mice
depends on what you want but for fingertip the x2cl in mini size is really nice
and it still has a hump if you want some palm contact for stability sometimes, could also be clawed if u have small hands
fire
korean companies collabing
those mice look like ass though
just printed a picture of the character on the mouse, they did a better job with the demon slayer collabs I think
i feel like lots of mice will be better than superlight 1 anyway
there isnt a retailer for gwolves anyway so
maxgaming sells them in the eu at least but I don't know about other regions
they sell hts plus only for me
gg
whats bad about it btw
all i know is that it seems pretty heavy for a fingertip mouse
heavy wide and heavy clicks
but width is preference so some people do like it, it's basically a regular mouse in shape but without the hump to enable greater range of motion
heavy clicks are just not optimal for a fingertip mouse, with the limited contact area you have using only your fingertips, it’s very difficult to keep the cursor from moving when you click the mouse buttons
ah
The pulsar crazylight series is way better for ftip
Specifically the mini sized ones
Plus they fixed their sensor issues with initial batches with 3950 sensors with new firmware
it's nice if u don't mind the hump, definitely better than the x2f, especially the prototype units
Tbh the hump isn't that aggressive on the X2 mini size
It's really only the X2H mini that has the massive hump
its not huge but it still limits range of motion for fingertip, hump can be positive truth because you can get stability from it, but it still ends up being in the way if you want to maximize range of motion like a lot of fingertip mice aim to do
what about the g502
Brick
Never the king for too long
I might buy. I'm just really curious to try
yeah
another gpx2 superstrike ahh looking mouse
Just spec bumps with the new sensor
i need it
1080p LCD though
RME is expected to announce their successor to the legendary ADI-2 dac in a few days. Curious to see how the new one is improved
Yall should i get the beast x for 155$ or save up 50$ to get the super strike?
I would go with the beast x mouse just bc i hate logitech
beastx
or wait for the beast G coming out end of month
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Yay I got to use the recycle emoji
LG just announced their new 25G590B, a 24.5" 1080p native kilohertz display
Even my dog can hear the difference. Going from a mid level DAC to a higher end. Playing Amazing Grace with children singing. The dog had heard it hundreds of times before. First listen the dog is sniffing around the speakers looking for the children. What does that say about your blind tests and measurements.
Wow that's a new one
Sounds soo good it smells
Dog hit the stank face cause the music was so good and bro thought it was about the dac
It's on the Chord Dave review thread. The people that own that device are probably crazy on average
Audiocanine 
gosh i need to upgrade everything after i get my new pc
Superstrike is very much a novelty mouse. I have one and it's really cool don't get me wrong. But biggest issue for me is that it's more front heavy than the original GPX2 superlight.
If you want a more normal mouse I'd go beastx or alternatively pulsar crazylight
Lamzu is also good
ngl ive never heard of the beast x
Like what?
Is it the same brand of beast x?
ngl id legit use my model o over my superlight if shape was better and it wa wireless
I can maybe help with headphones
Same!!!
Thanks for a detailed explanation, because I cant lie ive been indecisive about this for a good minute now
yeah i see lots of people here are audio folks
i can lie too
I saw that GadgetryTech is using https://headphonedatabase.com/measurements/ which seems to be his own website. The name reminds me a lot of the old one Oratory had but otherwise it's very different
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Yeah
Dude i literally JUST woke up
I saw a bit about the hd 480 pros and they seem good for me
Yeah, if you got any burning questions about the superstrike I'd be happy to answer!
There's no Harman target which is upsetting
Even when I'm not choosing the 5128
It is very unfortunate
but idk I liked the focal azurys too but hd 480 pros are newer
and their cheaper
Being newer doesn't matter. Good performance is ageless
HD600 is from the 90s and is still very popular
oh wow
i didnt know sennhesier was that old
can you at leastimport your own target curves?
Yes
they're olddddddd
tbf tho HD600 have recieved several revisions over the years
but for the most part they've stayed the same.
but yeah I think focal azurys or hd 480 pros are the ones i should decide between
unless theres others that idk about
The one measured by Amir he claims he bought around the year 2000 (they came out 1997) and the measurements pretty much align with the latest ones
yeah makes sense
They are both. Sennheiser is probably more comfortable if I were to guess
yeah i heard hd 480 pros are comfortable asf
No matter which you pick I recommend EQing as it has a high chance of improving sound quality
i shall read about that eventually then
is there anything important with headphones too like dacs/amps, idk what they do ive just heard of them
cuz i dont wanna dig myself into a rabbithole that doesnt really do anything
I think you will be just fine with any dongle dac
Amplifier just amplifies the signal sent from the dac. You already have a dac and amplifier in your motherboard but it's hard to know how good they are. There's very little difference between a good amplifier/dac and a poor one. Humans are very bad at hearing distortion from amplifiers/dacs, and so the most likely thing you might hear from a poorly designed one will be a very bad reconstruction filter in the dac or audibly high noise floor which can happen with motherboard dacs when PCs with powerhungry graphic cards ramp up. I don't recommend spending much at all on an amplifier or dac as you can get the highest sound quality out of them for the price of a pizza
Assuming the driver on hd480 pro are the same as hd490, you'll be just fine with smol dongle dac like jm6 pro or fiio ka11.
looking at the techspec for hd480 pro, seems to be about the same as hd490.
Dacs and amplifiers are solved technology that have been built beyond human audibility. So getting one with the best sound quality possible which means that it doesn't impart any sort of sound of its own onto whatever passes through it is very easy to find and buy
Yeah, really comes down to how much power you need and what type of power you need
And you usually don't need that much power unless you're using the Lily Audio Genesis One
...
I wish Sennheiser would make a wireless gaming headset again
One that beats the A50
someday
It needs a great microphone, good channel matching, spacious but not too spacious earpads with a comfy material, good leakage tolerance, low latency and good battery life
I just noticed Listener's measurements of the 480 are at his own eardrums which is a big WTF moment. That would be completely fine if he also showed measurements on a standardised rig but he DOESN'T so now I am left feeling that his measurements are mostly useless
I think Sony makes wireless gaming headphones that sound marginally better than the A50
I think it's their Inzone H9 gen 2
Okay nvm he did measure on a rig. It's just not in the video
Oh rip
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He posted this recently but it's wired
same brand, just in plastic and with newer specs
Ehh i mean i always likes how the beast x was build out of magnesium alloy but if the specs are good enough then ill just wait for it to come out
plastic better
I don't like how it sinks around 1 kHz
XM6 seems nicer to me without EQ
this going to be soo bloated on the bass if you match the 1k to the target.
Think the bose ultra 2 would still be my anc pick
if you have the opportunity to try different headphones in person id recommend that before purchasing anything big
i will have to check stores
places like guitar center typically have display models
it comes down to preference though, some people are bass sensitive and some are sensitive to high frequencies and if youre not mastering audio or trying to achieve the "sound intended by the audio engineer" go for what sounds good to you
Research shows people prefer a neutral sound and that good sounding is basically synonymous with that, so I wouldn't say that those are exclusive
shows most people prefer
i see what youre saying though
For a headphone to sound neutral requires a different frequency response person to person, but there are many ways in which they converge. A bass shelf of varying amplitude (which depends on gender and age) is typically required, as well as ear gain also of varying amplitude (but less variance than bass)
im not disagreeing with you
Just elaborating a bit
@crude talon thoughts on g502 wireless?
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idk unc i never tried one
Its a half work/gaming mouse doesnt do both excellently but does both decently. Some other mice do one of the two bit better than it
I might like this
They hated me because I spoke the truth...
Mid focused bright leaning headphone is also what hd490 is to me. Though I do partly hope the midbass is not too much.
Looking back at this it's too good. Should have made it more wiggly and uneven
There are worse things
Hopefully it measures well (soon)
I applaud your patience with dealing with Redd*tors 
I'm going up dm you the squig I have because idk if it's suppose to be public yet
Alright. Curious
gimme too
Bro....
Our ears have proven to be very unreliable when it comes to quantitative analysis
Horrific even
Esp since visual bias plays a role in that
Same please!!!
Do you feel validated now?
Guy on reddit said "grado-like" 
I like this, I might REALLY like it.
Imagine the llm are all trained with reddit data
No
🥀
The koss fanboys will still gobble it up though
It's generally inoffensive
Yeah it's, fine, minus treble
I would have expected better from DD headphones at 350 bucks
Nah bro, EQ can't save that cooked FR
I'll wait for more measurement of the new koss before I make more judgement on it.
Also, why is there just a random dip in the sub bass frequencies!? That's very unusual for electrostatics
Think Vesper pads make it better but not that much better
That big bump it has before the ear gain would make it sound so weird. I had the LCD-2 Classic which sounded incredibly off and weird to me and they also had a bump there although a far smaller one
Yeah
Is the treble on the A/550 messy or fine
Depends on hrtf lmao
From the graph, it looks okay, but might need some adjustment
It's probably fine???
Would need to see more measurements yeah
I got a stupid idea, why don't I just reduce the mids rather than increasing the bass and treble?
it achieves the same effect after the preamp is applied in peq
same difference type thing
I know which is why I am doing it. I like my bass and treble to be at a level of closeness like the blue, so I add +2db on it. Then I just add what's needed to make the green somewhat matches the blue.
Is that the new closed back? I'm getting the names confused now
idk, cauz koss ig????
Apparently it's a 90s headphone
can you not just get headphones that arent harman tuned then
lol
im assuming the frequency response on the headphones is supposed to be "90s"
or just get a headphone that measures well and eq it yourself
because its easier to eq headphones/iems that measure smooth
yess
Gave it some listen, luckily it retains the identity of hd490 that I like, with minor bass shelf finally.
It bothers me that you don't at least correct for the bass roll-off 
That's intentional, I just want it to match the blue
I can totally fix it still
For now, I'm trying it with +7 bass instead of +2
what do you guys use to eq
Equaliser APO is the best but in the past I used the dedicated equalisation built into my RME ADI-2
I'm using device EQ on my fiio qx13, that way EQ that I use on my macbook is the same as the one on my windows since it's just going through the dac.
Do you like the bass shelf
It doesn't change the hd490 sound sig, so that's a yes.
I think part of the reason I don't like Oratory's EQ is that it's trying too hard to EQ to harman 2018, rather than keeping what I like about hd490.
this one keeps it, and luckily it also almost matches harman 2018.
Please fix the subbass now. It's so sad when it bends like that 
happy?
The topping dx1 ii is pretty crazy
Yes
1w@32ohms from usb only
PEQ too
at just $120, well worth it imo
I'm guessing that the main trait you like with it is the slight increase from around 1 to 2 kHz. If you EQ that down do you like it less
Yes, It feels like you add a dampener to the vocal
hmm, 2db is nice enough of a difference where it's barely noticeable from the original tuning.
But still has some changes to the sound.
Equalizer apo
this is prop what I'll settle on, +5 feels like it has some bass without it making my head dizzy trying to listen to it.
I might come back to this to adjust more, but I am satisfied enough that for now, this will be my 'alternative' as hd490 with bass.
@quasi field have your tried a gsync pulsar yet?
fyi you can get pulsarish on old gsync monitors and only get a minor headache with hacks
https://forums.blurbusters.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2883&start=180#p25654
bro
Ok the guy from moore law is dead said the ram price issue should end in 18 months
When the next gen console will come out
Only thing MLID is good for is random generation 
He is more of a speculation guy than reliable source of information
That's also when HL3 is announced
HL3 is coming with the steam machine no?
Would be crazy
I believe so (yes I am a HL3 believer)
I actually 100% true to heart believe HL3 isn't just being worked on right now but has been worked on for several years by now and that we are close to a reveal
And I believe that the reveal was going to be last year but was delayed to the shortage and price issues
Yeah after so many years wouldnt be crazy they could come with a new game
But I wish they would not tease it first like one day you see the steam machine available and half life 3 at the same time
I wanna start building a pc, should i look for AMD or Nvidea, i don't wanna spend like 3k on a good gpu and cpu
I guess it is either 5080 or 9070 xt these days
The biggest reason I see people say they don't believe in HL3 is because they think the game is too hype to the point Valve won't take the chance since they think they can't meet that hype. But I think that is vastly overestimating the expectations people actually have for the game and I think it's obvious a company wouldn't really do this anyway. There is a ton of money to be had with HL3 and I also think there are many developers at Valve including Gaben that would just love to work on a new Half Life. Making a HL3 that meets expectations is not some mythological impossible ordeal
Would be interesting if Steam Machine would be the target, because then it'd have to be pretty well optimized 
Also valve has almost unlimited fund for a game development I dont think they have to respect deadline or anything
5080 is like 2k tho
I think HL3 will be well optimised. And if anything assuming the delay is real then they'll have been given a lot extra time to flesh the game out further and optimise it
Wow I thought it was like 1k
At 2k no way I would get a 5080
What country?
The netherlands
Oh wait yeah like 1250
Huh tf
I just looked like 20 minutes avo
5080 + 9800X3D and you are in the top 1% of PC gamers
Yeah
Now I would hesistate between the 9070xt and the 5080
Nvidia has better feature but amd is way cheaper
im happy with my 5070 Ti that i got for less than 1000€ 
I have a 5070 
Alright and what if i wanna be in top 5%
and my friend in top 20%
because he doesn’t wanma spend too much at all
Then you ask someone else because I don't really pay much attention to graphic cards or CPUs anymore, sorry
And #🔌│tech is the better chat for this btw
Oh alright thanks
The people active in #🔌│tech are more inclined towards those things than here
No, you don't get to claim this channel to talk only about squiggles 
tbf, this is where I think something not in PC and not keyboard
«PC_gear» is a bad name if this is also about computer guts imo
PC gear implies gear to a PC, while graphic cards and processors are the PC itself
i agree with that 
I remember in my final year of high school I was asked by the teacher to make a receiver in the school auditorium work because there was no audio. I was very clueless back then and so when I looked at the digital volume display it displayed a number in dB in minus such as -60 dB. Back then I thought this somehow meant that the volume was «minus quiet» and so I turned it up all the way to 0 thinking that this was still «muted» but not «extra muted». When I eventually figured the sound out and something played it was the loudest sound I had ever heard and it scared everyone
nice
yes
my lovely XG27AQWMG
and grey banding is so much less bad on this one. probably have to update the firmware?
yeah mine improved a lilbit
Do pixel clean up few times
But update firmware first
whad da hel
Tuff sauce
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2776614795
Novelkeys is doing mice now lol
Skip to 43:30
Gpx clone #82717
I did pixel clean like 3 times after updating, the grey bending on the old one that I've sent back was way worse
It feels so good now
I wish there was a lighter naga
the only thing even remotely close is the SteelSeries Aerox 9 and even that doesn't have the ring finger rest
I should probably update my monitor but have no idea how to
Guessing the USB C port?
Usually gotta connect USB to PC and run some app from manufacturer
Can't flash .bin by yourself 
imagine being able to flash with just a USB stick and a button like moden mobos
I mean it only has a usb c port
And it has firmware I can download
Ah it's over DP
nice no need to awkwardly plug in another cable into the monitor
Hey guys and girls.
One question: Razer Viper v4 pro or Logitech Superstrike X2?
Any advice would be great!
Superstrike is by far the easiest to spam click because of the RT
Hmm, i dont spam it that much.. I mean, i was watching lots of reviews and comparisons between those 2, each one has its pros and cons. Build quality, battery life, weight is on the razer side, but the clicks and tech- logitech. Im just torn between those 2
Also heard that oem skates on x2 are garbage...
They're ok
They're good for glass pads
But otherwise I would swap them for ptfe skates
Superstrike click feel is nowhere near like a regular click
It is its own haptic type feeling mouse click
do you think the superstrike is a bit of a gimmick?
i feel like after optical stuff came out there isnt really a need for anything else, at least for the majority of people
Personally not really, it feels like a mouse that has a lot of customizeability.
hmmm
it's almost a must for any type of spam clicking scenerios
Although just saying I just got my superstrike a little over a day ago lmao
how do you like it?
i started to stray away from the mainstream mice after the release of the viper v2
i got a hitscan hyperlight and havent looked back, mostly because of the price differences
Liking it so far after swapping the stock skates for aftermarket ones
which skates ?
Corepad ones
are they more for speed or control?
Slightly more control but they are decently speedy
Nowhere near as slow as the UHMWPE stock skates
I'd say only keep the stock skates if you use a glass pad
I've been liking my jades on my GPX2
what pad do you use?
ive heard abt pulsar pads
is that faster or slower than the saturn?
are you able to compare them to artisans?
Slightly faster than Saturn
oo
It's like a smidge
I'd say they are of equivalent quality to artisan
Just comes down to what type of mousepad material and texture you want
would you rec any control pads from them?
Saturn pro and Jupiter pro are more control oriented pads
i was thinking of getting a control pad as ive only used speed pads for the last 5 years
Hyperion is in the middle
And then mercury and Neptune pro are speed pads
would you rec soft or med, or is it more personal pref
More of a personal preference thing
Although if you intend on using dot skates I would go medium
i was only asking bc i was going to get the artisan fx zero
as i already own a hien, but it its around $100
the saturn is much cheaper, but im a bit skeptical
sounds high, where are you?
might just end up getting both ngl
us
its $102 on amazon, though ive seen $90 other places
from JPgaming?
shipping still might be high but no more than 70
so wish i was in US, right here in Serbia we dont have so many options lol
Not even for the skates, i would have to order them and wait for few weeks till they arrive...
live saver
now i really am forsure getting both
it cost $72.38 to ship a XL Zero to me
appreciate the insight
thats not bad
it was roughly 80 for me when i got it
the hien*
but yeah no one should be buying artisan from amazon now and then asking on reddit to see if it real or not

nah thats crazy
Yeah lmao
I was today years old that I found out that you can slightly bend the headband of the HD600/650 to reduce the clamping pressure.
LMAO
omg its so much better
i had my 560s clamp the box it came in overnight and it was significantly better
I intentionally bent mine and its wayyyy better
well im scared because 560s is all plastic 
fair enough
like bro, the clamping pressure is no joke on these things, lmao
that was the first thing i did on my hd600 years ago, i couldnt use them stock
Im looking to buy a speed clothpad.
What are some control based dot skates i can use along with it? Im trying to move away from completing a minimal setup and want to put some personal touches on it.
For reference this is what I plan on buying
i use these aliexpress pom skates on cloth and they are pretty good
tbtl v2 pom
is it this one?
If you want control skates, get hardened PTFE like Xraypad Obsidians
POM skates won't be slow
ah ive missed the control part in the sentence, i use them on proper mudpads and they are nice
zowie gsr3 iirc
Yeah i bookmarked xraypad obsidians
Waiting for the x2h crazylight to be available
Then ill buy that and the dot skates
Along with the mousepad lol
sweet, i was looking at the xlite by pulsar but eventually went with zowie ec2dw and couldnt be happier with it
I really like my xlite v4 es, I wanted to like the feinmann but holes in my mouse is just a nono.
Mouse before I bought my v3 es was the Zowie EC2, I like the shape on both of them a lot.
I was gonna go for the x2h v3 es but uhhh i wasnt a fan of the 65g thing. People have made weight of the mouse such a big thing. That i feel like if i jumped from a viper v3 to it the difference in weight would be crazy
And my poor bristle hands will shatter
as long as its under 70g its fine for me
Im also a claw gripper so ig its shape works out
I used a 2 dex and loved it
Which i think is 62g or whatever
holy brick
pfft, i won't ever understand people that can handle those ultra light mice, like i tried one once, felt like cheapest crap due to the lack of weight and it also didn't help much that my precision was totally off because of it 😅
100+ for me (plus cable) or it's a big nope 😄
I kinda felt like 60g is decent. I was thinking about trying a budget lightweight mouse and see how it goes
i actually was playing with the thought of getting a basilisk v3 pro 35k (as in the wireless version) simply because it's 11g heavier than the wired version, as in 101g vs 112g, but the price point was a lil too steep for a testrun, if i could really switch from logi to razer now
almost sounds like a crutch at that point, you can train your fine motor skills instead of making it heavier, or get a slower mousepad
I read that the sound of the clicks on the superstrike is really low
Which is a huge plus to me haha
But that white coating
yeah I know someone else who has the same problem lol
I would buy it if the white coating doesnt turn yellow
Mouse people please advise 
Ive bought like 3 g pro's and I love them, but my scroll wheels keep tweaking. Every single one. Do I get a superstrike and pray it doesnt happen again or is there like a valid alternative
Or if they release a colour that matches the desk pad im getting
If theyre still under warranty wouldn’t u want to claim it? Logitech might follow through
I think razer does optical wheels now which might last
wouldn’t warranty replace the g pro either way
i have heard logitech also have problems with their mice randomly flicking in a direction in fps games sometimes
like it spasms out and youre suddenly looking at the floor 
My 2 dex had some connectivity issues and they basically told me it’s defective and gave me a letter to say to return it
logi click and scroll lasting just sounds like qc lottery
or simply keep using mice with a decent weight like i did for over 25 years by now
I’m not saying you can’t
just buying something new just because it’s heavier sounds a bit strange, especially if you prefer wired lol
https://www.coolermaster.com/en-global/products/cm310.html i loved this brick 
The CM310 is the mouse of choice for gamers of all levels, providing dependability and reliability without breaking the bank
i mean i needed a new mouse anyways, it was just the decision between the regular (wired) and the pro (wireless) basilisk v3 35k^^
and considering i was using a g502 hero with full weights inside it was quite the big drop from 121+18 to 101, but it was the first razer mouse i saw that had pretty much the same design and i was simply fed up with logi due to 3 502 heros breaking after about a year tops
still kinda playing with the thought of opening it up and adding some weight to it somehow tho, but other than that it was a pleasant surprise
I lived by the g403 years ago
No other mouse felt the same to me
I still have it as my emergency backup lmao
Sounds stupid.
Lmao real
Yeah the stock clamping force is so high
I just wish razer could update the naga making it lighter
The HD6XX family takes like 6 months+ to widen so it doesn't clamp so damn hard. I compared my brand new one to my old one and the old one has like a 5cm gap between the cups while on the table and the new one is touching. Old one so much more comfortable.
I bent mine and it's perfect now
I've had my 660S2s for like a month or something now and they look same as when I got them, no gap between the cups yet.
Comfort strap?
It's like the AKG K712 type strap
Ah like that, nah I never liked those, they always break on all the headsets I've used over time.
I had 2 Fidelio X2HR lost all the boing
there's a capra for the 6xx family
Do you remove the stock pad if you use one of those?
There is also 3d printable ones out of TPU
doesnt look like it
Yes you do have to remove the stock headband pad
dang misread as replace the pad
ohh that looks interesting
i recently replaced the stock foam head strap on mine but this looks more comfortable
My headset is mostly held up by the cuffs, the headband itself doesn't do much.
That is the very same thing
The print files for capra straps are public
Nice nice
might try printing with tpu for the first time 😅
As long as your printer has a good DD extruder it's fine
i just upgraded to the elegoo cc2 so i think its going to be a breeze..
i hate tpu man
But you reminded me that i wanted to print one for my lan party headset
get to printing
yeah LOL
Love my capra strap on my D1
Hmm, the difference is like vocal feeling like they're 'talking' to me to almost 'screaming' to me.
The original (hd490) feels more neutral to me.
hd600's treble now and no matter which measurement I use to EQ hd490 with (earphonearchive and super review), it doesn't sound right to me.
Feels too confined.
Maybe I should do a first hand listen on hd600 again, just for sanity check.
Does anyone use UWPHook today for the Steam Controller or is there a better alternative?
Doesn't look to be maintained anymore.
Which keyboard?
Other keyboard brand hardware are on par or straight up better than wooting. But wooting software is just so much better than everyone else
Software/firmware gapped, most HE boards use the same manufacturers to make the actual PCB and firmware and as a result updates are limited and bugs are unlikely to be fixed
Imagine how «fast» this sounds
Im gonna die listening with either pads lmao
youre mostly buying the software and warranty
there are "better" options but i think most people will not gonna notice the feel or sounds that much
its a good overall product
as for latency they say its better tahn wooting but its like fractions of milliseconds
please enlighten me
i dont want to spend so much on wooting
and i want features like SOCD and rapid trigger
i heard atk rs7 air is good tho thats just someone from another discord saying that
and from what i seen the software looks not bad looking imo
tho i never owned the board or any of atk boards
heard their new boards are fine but the older ones are bad
whats their price range again?
ill research later but
im js multitasking
for me is like 100 dollars
yeah
that makes sense
id rather spend 100 over
200
wooting tag has aura tho ngl
its gonna give me the ego boost
what keyboard u have rn
wooting 80he
how is it
is it really worth the price 😭
or the price is just for the name
you paying for the software and warranty which i suppose is part of the name
ngl i think i will get wooting 60e
its 120 right
thats not bad
lmao
Yeah
Ive had my 60he 3 years, love this thing
if it comes to your house yeah
will the wooting 80He keyboard be good for single player games? using the analog movement?
it works like a charm imo
Apple at home:
Looks uncomfortable to move around
Ah yes, design over usability 
At least the charging port is on the correct face
who said its wireless
type o negative is better
thats what i told a friend just now 
screw holes in the front for your fingers to dig in to.
sharp edges
0 ergonomics
small weird buttons
Type O negative sucks
If I ever am in a hospital good luck with getting blood for me 
so apparently
this dude is a designer and i think this might just be a design not a real product
especially looking at the other images
gigachad ortho keyboard
its a cool design, not a practical one 😄
wooting dactyl when
So much of form over function 
That keyboard looks like a nightmare to type on
yes its a concept from what i can read on his own posts
Knobs too close to keys I often press
same for the keyboard
@proper vector this type o negative i mean :p
https://www.instagram.com/fadi_wildmind/p/DV80_WZiMtJ/
https://www.instagram.com/fadi_wildmind/p/DWog9dsiBxW/
his other 2 concept posts
very cool looking though. very impractical
such is usually what happens with designers who dont actually prototype irl but just virtual
or if the entire point is looksmaxxing
that vinyl player.. where is the needle?
in the body of the player ofc
yes, but how do you get the disc in without scratching it horribly ? XD
id assume the idea is it rides along the thicker bottom
magic
youd basically also only scratch the outside anyway since thats where you start play from
id be more interested how the spindle retracts and then actually secures it enough to spin
This reminds me of teenage engineering
guess what its inspired by
Ah explains it
yea otherwise there wouldn't be a linear pot on that keyboard
I only read the first part and thought you were badmouthing the band


wlmouse beast g promo vid
Is that the receiver?....
sure looks like it
Yes, Wlmouse loves that dongle
Looks annoying af
ftip?
idk why i like ftip mice so much they look so cool
but idk if i could main one
i dont have the money to test mice
there's also the darmoshark m5 air v2 updated with 54L15 mcu
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but more similar to ryuo iv
Idc about this noctua aio gonna be better surely
How its just a cat
The other shit attached to it isnt part of it, thats a usb splitter I think
I’m not a fan
i got a g502x 2 years ago and both the side buttons and the DPI buttons started double clicking recently 
Time to upgrade to a Chinese/korean mouse?
im a sucker for the scroll wheel :(
Mx master 4?
Or do you really really want 1000Hz+ polling?
i do but it's not totally stupid to have a dedicated gaming mouse in addition to be honest......
Yeah
what mouse
lemme cop it aswell
Pulsar crazylight series is good and lamzu is decent
is it lightweight
130 usd
Connect your discord to wooting hub
oooh
my refurbished keyboard
gonna come soon
~37g with stock skates according to pulsar
with dots yeah
I mean 37g is still really good for ftip with solid shell
You can comfortably claw grip it too
I forget how much the medium crazylight weighs
39g?
yeah for sure, love my cl, just saying since u were almost 15% off
I use dots tho
On my crazylight
The ptfe dots specifically
only like 9% off then
idek if i got those with mine, was a return unit
I should check the box but even the full size stock skates didn't feel especially good
Usually the crazylights come with uhmwpe dots
ew
I have jade air dots but I only use those on glass
artisan dots for me since I use an xsoft hien
im the guy with way too many expensive dots on my mouse
Lolz
I wish the cl was flat bottom
And not have the skate divots?
yeah fuck skate cutouts
they are the reason i have to put a whole pack of skates on the bottom
Or just get full sized skates atp
but then i dont have artisan street cred
I'll probably get full size skates next time
Breh
after I feel like I need to replace them, I got a few more when artisan was including them with pads
artisan pad, skates, artisan mouse, artisan monitor, artisan pc
Lmao
so many zero collabs even 2000fun is back
I should get the zebra to match my crazylight but I don't wanna pay the import lol
maybe when i go to japan if theres still any stock
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@proper vector
lemme just use this instead of a mouse on my mousepad
Not sure how I feel about it being tilted
Don't you think that makes it less comfortable to adjust volume? It's so high up
I prefer being able to do it easily with my hand resting on the desk
the big chin on the bottom and that chin not being flat with the desk and the very steep angle is kinda goofy
I wouldn't mind the angle if it was a bit lower
headphone jacks being on the side is kinda meh too, but it's better than on the angle face
I like this, too bad it's $400
concerning there is no output power specs
HMMMMMM
people should embrace the "good is flat" mentality
There has been plenty of research how the human ear interprets a flat frequency response. Boring, lifeless and uninvolving are common descriptors
Sure true if thinking of a headphone that has no bass-shelf and no ear-gain, that would sound weird and bad
And a loudspeaker with a flat frequency response will probably be bright in an average living room without equalisation
But this is otherwise nonsense. What «plenty of research» is there?
people should embrace the "everyone experiences sound differently" mentallity
nice for glass
ew
hence the "good is flat" mentalty, if it sounds good to you then its flat.
jades are horrible on glass
what else can i do with a server pc besides like
blind eq listening tests is the perfect way to find a target curve that you like.
- pihole
- run minecraft servers
- run something like plex
People have quite similar preferences, but getting there differs from person to person
Heater when cold
yeah, kinda like that (based on PEQdB's data) peqdb diamond beta sounds the best for most people.
Most people prefer a neutral/high-fidelity sound from loudspeakers. So logically that goes for headphones too, and research proves that. It also simultaneously proves that there is some variation head to head how you make a headphone sound like neutral speakers

probably because sources that are closer to your ears sound way different than that from farther away
because of how your brain percieves sound.
Yes
Also I think this is an interesting post about how similar people actually can be: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/harman-curve-compliance.63222/post-2395990
It can be quantified/measured but would have to be done for each individual.
The open mind is not needed at all.
You just have to listen to a headphone (and feel the comfort) and either use the one you pick 'as is' or you can buy one that is close to what you seek (sound-wise) and simply tune...
I know a SolderDude post when I see one. He's not wrong. But many do not EQ either such as noobs that can't be bothered or don't understand it
when i was like 12 i used to think eq means you put a giant v shape in when you want to listen to dubstep 
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nah
those pulsar uhmwpe dots are the worst and it's not even good for glass
they are flat and feel like crap
speaking of, lowk deciding between tiger ice v2 and jade ultra ptfe full size skates, they look so similar minus the fact that the jades are thicker which im not 100% what difference that makes.
Maybe pulsar makes bad ones, but obsidian pro airs are legit the best dots / donuts for glass. Also silent
Jades suck major ass and wear soio quick
Never used the pulsar ones but I have obs pro and I don’t like them at all
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My brother is after a 49” ultrawide monitor. It is for work use only. He wants it to be 4k. LED and not that curved
1000R is way too curved for him
Very low end ish tuning
It's very bloated. Bass is too elevated too far down
The bass shelf goes up to 600 Hz...
this one gonna sell
For sure
Seems to be common sort of tuning
It's low-fidelity sounding
It's one of my least favourite things. Mid/upper-bass that is too elevated with sub-bass that is rolling-off lower in amplitude than it
Sub-bass should be higher than upper-bass since our hearing is less sensitive further down
Are all of these the same OEM 
some people like it, but the UXUE is really bad treble wise.
i dunno, but small chance all of these using the same driver.
I wonder if they would like it more than a properly defined bass shelf. I think most wouldn't
Sadge
it was almost exactly 6 years old

any mic + dac recommendations?
I just got this one a few weeks ago
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B0C4DXTGLB
Neumann U87
/s
Indeed
praying my RAM or storage don't die anytime soon 
they are about 8 years old so it's entering higher probability
at first i thought something about windows broke but then i tried it on my laptop and it still didnt work

i was having such a good time listening to music and then the vibe was ruined
Press the reset button on your vibes, brotherman
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maybe i can find one off amazon 
anyway, anyone got mic recommendations?
im still using am8
maybe i should just get an audio interface so i can use XLR mic and plug in my headphones there
but idk

where are all the super opinionated audio people when i need them
soriamoria you probably know what dac/amp and mic i should get

if i think about it too much i'll never decide
Not sure about mic but what are you plugging into your dac/amp?
There's always the new Topping that apparently is excellent
And it's under $100 or sumting
oh?
that sounds nice
didnt want to spend so much since its a lil unexpected of an expense 😅
so under 100 is good
Topping DX1 II
You can of course amplify the Hifiman for far cheaper but this one has a volume knob and PEQ
No external PSU either so less clutter
sounds good to me
i trust you cause i know you're not one of those audiophile people that think you need to spend 8000 dollars on a tube amp that uses vintage vacuum tubes used in the first ibm computer or some bs
Digital to analogue and amplification are solved technologies in audio
They haven't been very relevant for a while. Audible perfect conversion and amplification can be had dirt cheap
What you might pay extra for is features design and power. Some things are also just expensive because a lot of audio stuff is veblen goods
not sure if i should get xlr mic + some interface or a usb mic
I'd go USB since it's more convenient. I had an XLR mic before and it was a load of bullshit
And I don't think being USB or XLR has any relevance for sound quality beyond the quality of mic and components themselves, if applying general audio logic here. So there are probably amazing USB microphones out there (just as there are terrible XLR microphones)
yeah it was more of a "do i want to spend the same amount on usb mic or xlr + interface"
cause if mic dies on the xlr side i can just get a new cheaper mic and i'm not completely out of luck
more points of failure but cheaper points of failure
That's true but is that big maybe worth the extra clunk of having an extra device on your desk at all times
yeah
Same thing with when people buy a separate amplifier and dac instead of a single unit










