🌐│pc_gear

[sharp fiber]

Ye

[undone marten]

tbf i find no difference much between v4 and v3 the only thing i feel different is the mouse switch

[vague sparrow]

yeah that is why I am staying on the v3

[undone marten]

yeah i been having so much fomo on the v4

got it on sale for like 115 bucks

[vague sparrow]

well it is probably the best mouse right now

now I will just wait to see what they come up with next

I stay on the v3

[undone marten]

true the superstrike rapid trigger switches is overrated

it does make u click faster but not that much of an advantage

[vague sparrow]

would still be nice if they added it in the next viper version

now the shape of viper is my fav

and it is the most important thing to me

[undone marten]

yessir

[vague sparrow]

but I didnt try the crazylight

[undone marten]

i have this one issue about chinese brand mouses

like my aim feel floaty

whenever i flick horizontally

my crosshair goes up a bit

[vague sparrow]

I am also curious about the viper mini that I never tried

[undone marten]

the se one right

[vague sparrow]

no

the se is similar shape as the pro

[quasi field]

[vague sparrow]

the mini is smaller

[undone marten]

i think try beast X

they almost look the same as in form

[round lagoon]

Lmao

[vague sparrow]

so the fiio ka11 is the best dac for cheap?

[round lagoon]

I mean, it's good enough

[vague sparrow]

I will soon receive my aful explorer

will use it on a mac mini

wonder if a dac is necessary

[gray shuttle]

I am actually selling a Fiio Melody if you're near belgium

[round lagoon]

Mac already has an amazing dac built in

[vague sparrow]

oh then no need

crazy how apple appears to be good at audio

[round lagoon]

They just really like wireless closed back

[vague sparrow]

on the computer there is still the jack port, on the device (iphone, ipad) there isnt

[round lagoon]

Good enough to me

[vague sparrow]

it forces people to wireless device

well rather it pushes them toward wireless

[quasi field]

It's at least good

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/fiio-ka11-portable-dac-amp-review.68800/

Transparent gear is dirt cheap nowadays

[obtuse dove]

Hmmmmm

Oh nahhhh

[sharp fiber]

You mean Hall effect? Rapid trigger is just a feature

They are amazing, as someone who hates to preload M1 and M2, they are a godsend. Played on sens 1 since day 2 and its perfect. I have ~20 different kinds of switches laying around and i tried all of them, HE is huge in a mouse. And 30ms at most is HUUUGE, even 10ms would be for many games.

Same reason op18k is so good, it allows you to click sooner

[terse ferry]

It very powerful

Anything above 30% hurts my ears

[crude talon]

kills my phones battery very quickly

[quasi field]

https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/1t1s220/is_planar_speed_a_myth/

🍿

[obtuse dove]

vro wat?

[quasi field]

At least 2 out of 3 replies so far are good

[obtuse dove]

yeah good DDs have good transient performance

or even better than planars

esp when it comes to like small DDs like in IEMs

[quasi field]

Most people on r/headphones nor in general know that when headphones are measured it's the impulse response being measured, so all relevance transients have in headphones are just in the FR anyway. A bad messy FR then by definition also has poor transients

[obtuse dove]

yeah

because planars surprisingly enough usually have thicker diaphrams than most DDs

becuase if you made them super thin they'd tear the conductive traces very easily

also because they have to shove a coil in that diaphram somehow

electrostatics are similar but they can get away with significantly thinner diaphrams because they dont need to have big coils in it

so their transience performance is probably the best of the big 3 in headphones at least.

although electrostatics usually dont measure that much better than planars.

[quasi field]

I don't feel like they really mesasure better than any other technology on average. But maybe I'll take a look at a bunch of measurements later. There are after all very few electrostatic headphones around

And it seems like over half are by Stax

[obtuse dove]

Yeah no one else really makes electrostatics

[quasi field]

HE-1 is for sure one of the most well-tuned headphones in the world while also being electrostatic which has definitely contributed to the mythological status electrostatics have achieved. Most Stax headphones do not have a good tuning though when looking at Hangout's measurements of them

Dan Clark's Corina is the second best measuring electrostatic after the HE-1 I'd say

(dat channel matching though)
I believe Sean Olive recently talked about how this one has excellent consistency between heads and was considering using it or some other electrostatic headphone for future listening tests

That might actually be the best channel matching I have ever seen. Very impressive indeed

[obtuse dove]

DC has good qc so thats not surprising

[quasi field]

Corina has the highest consistency between test fixtures here

[quasi field]

@round lagoon your next upgrade?

Corina is an underappreciated headphone imo. It rarely shows up when people discuss super high end headphones

[round lagoon]

Nooo

[round lagoon]

But if I have $10k maybe

[quasi field]

Corina + Topping EHA5 + EQed to PEQdB Ultra

[obtuse dove]

Oh yeah

[round lagoon]

Nah, I eq to hd490

[quasi field]

You should do the PEQdB listening test again but upload your own music

[frigid ivy]

There's also Warwick Acoustics, but they apply dsp/eq at the energizer

[quasi field]

Oh yeah. Can't find many measurements though

[frigid ivy]

Goldensound edition looks pretty nice

[round lagoon]

how do you do it?

I can't see where to put the son g

[quasi field]

Looks like a slightly worse HE-1

[round lagoon]

hmm. yeah. HE 1 has higher treble

[frigid ivy]

I think that one is like 6 grand, while the aperio is like 30 grand

https://headphones.com/products/warwick-acoustics-aperio-goldensound-edition

Goldensound Edition is 38 grand lol

still half of a HE-1

[round lagoon]

More than half now, since HE-1 is like 100k

[frigid ivy]

you mean less than half

[round lagoon]

oh yeah, lmao

[frigid ivy]

there's also the Nectar HiveXS

[quasi field]

I can't find it either. Weird because I remember doing it in the past

[frigid ivy]

could only find measurement of the older version

but it's a 699 estat

[quasi field]

Maybe you can't when doing a target shootout. Makes sense I guess so that everyone tests the same material for comparison sake

[round lagoon]

I tried PEQDB Diamond Beta on hd490 mixing, it sounds boomy and bad

[quasi field]

What about ultra?

[obtuse dove]

How strict would you say your preference bounds are?

Because if you have strict enough preference bounds I think the PEQdB personalized EQ tool is way better than the target shootout.

[quasi field]

It looks good. What are those preference bounds based on? It would probably be just a little bit dull to me. Also seems it has that «soundstage» dip as well

[round lagoon]

too much bass also

[obtuse dove]

And then if you are curious you can compare your personalized target curve to other target curves

[frigid ivy]

probably the earlier iteration of the pref bounds, the GSE came out like last year

[round lagoon]

If it's similar enough to hd490, I'm happy (headphone wise).

[obtuse dove]

I'd say give the personalized EQ tool a try

[quasi field]

I personally don't like the preference bounds. I find them misleading and makes it clunkier to look at

[obtuse dove]

It very much varies from person to person

Which is why I think personalized EQs are better

Assuming you are strict enough with your listening

What I did was that I did the personalized EQ test 5 separate times, averaged the 5 target curves together, and it was pretty much perfect for me at least.

Ended up being very close to PEQdB diamond beta but with slightly increased eargain.

[quasi field]

What I dislike about preference bounds is that something being inside them could still be fairly poor in actual listening tests

[obtuse dove]

Yeah fair

[quasi field]

If something hugs the lower end of the bass within the preference bounds as well as the hupper ends of the treble then it is still within preference bounds but would most likely be quite worse as an actual «target»

So I find it better to just have a single line with no preference curves

[obtuse dove]

Yeah

100%

[round lagoon]

Hmm, I tried the personalized EQ and it feels weird no matter what I set. But this is the result based on 3 song that I really familiar with

[frigid ivy]

need time for that brain burn in

[quasi field]

Have you chosen the correct pads?

[round lagoon]

Yep

producing pad have an elevation compared to flat

I adjusted the bass and now it sounds correct

I have localized the change where I need to do to sound 'better', Which is to just increase the 2.5k-4k region

and increase the air on 10k

[obtuse dove]

Neural circle or 3 square?

[round lagoon]

Neutral Circle

[obtuse dove]

Ok neural circle is very restrictive compared to 3 square

Usually I would suggest 3 square over neural circle.

In my personal experience at least

[round lagoon]

This is all I need to do to have the same experience as what personalized EQ gave me, but also better

I remember doing something similar trying to EQ hd490 to hd800s

[obtuse dove]

lowk that amount of bass just doesnt sound the same as a flat set of studio monitors in a room

to me at least

[round lagoon]

it's fine, for headphone this is what I prefer. Different story for IEM. For IEM, under 80-150hz ish, idc what you do to the bass as long as it isn't bloated. As long as anything beyond that till treble, it's flat.

like, close to to PEQdB Diamoand Beta or Harman 2019. But Treble needs to be lower by 2-4db on that two target.

[quasi field]

Is blue what you are listening to?

[quasi field]

Same. That would sound anemic to me. He's clearly on the lower end of bass preference

[round lagoon]

The white, but other than that 1 region, everything else is similar to the blue

[quasi field]

Do you not even want to correct for the bass roll-off?

[round lagoon]

I tried to make it straight, not a major different to me

[viscid bison]

way too fast, gimme something slow and heavy

[plain schooner]

The stupid fucks at PMM

https://fxtwitter.com/ModsMouse/status/2049937183906128348

PMM (@ModsMouse)

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FxTwitter · Apr 30, 2026, 7:41 PM

[crude stone]

"superlight"
"59g"

[past dome]

Is that a murtle or a touse

[viscid bison]

it's the turtle who painted the Mona Lisa

[viscid bison]

you're trapped in their ecosystem

[past dome]

Damn. Talented turtle ig

[obtuse dove]

@quasi field https://youtu.be/yztX03-6b_E

basically: he liked the IEMs that sounded closest to harman 2019

with slight air treble elevation

which just so happens to be basically what PEQdB diamond beta basically is

actually I think these are closer to peqdb diamond beta than they are to harman 2019

ohno yeah they totally are.

damn maybe sharur is right

[elfin kayak]

wlmouse Beast G specs

[obtuse dove]

oooooo

[crude talon]

holy brick

[past dome]

43g is considered heavy for mice now?

[wispy blaze]

For big size nah

• no holes

[plain schooner]

You gotta be below 40g

[hasty dagger]

chat anyone got a good budget keyboard? i have a budget of 2000-2500php (philippines currency) much preferably 2000. i just want a keyboard to mod that sounds good and doesnt need to be good for gaming or anything, just for work bsically

[elfin kayak]

carotmas mercury68 pro should be around that price

also the irok nd68 pro / nd63 ultra

[hasty dagger]

im hearing alot about that, id it actually as good as people say it is?

[elfin kayak]

for the specific models i mentioned they're using the best oem firmware at their price points

carotmas and irok are the same company basically

[hasty dagger]

lemme look into them

someone also recommended

leobog

this one

yk anything about it?

i can buy a prebuilt for 2.3k or the kit for 1.6k

[elfin kayak]

leobog firmware not as good

[hasty dagger]

alr

[elfin kayak]

if you want a 75 the carotmas mars75 is good

[hasty dagger]

im new to this whole modding keyboard, whats oem firmware?

[hasty dagger]

js need a comp keyboard for my comp setup lol ngl

[elfin kayak]

firmware that companies buy instead of building themselves like wooting

[hasty dagger]

setup so far

[hasty dagger]

soo if companies buy theyre firmware, is it bad or good? and how would u know if theyre firmwares are bought or made

[elfin kayak]

most companies will state which oem they use

and this sparklink oem has tested the best so far out of all the oems

for irok/carotmas only specific models / trim use sparklink so you need to know which to get

[hasty dagger]

ight ill be looking into carotmas

i dont think our country has irok

u think carotmas is a good option?

[elfin kayak]

yes

[hasty dagger]

oh quick question @elfin kayak

are the aula keybs and mad60he any good

[elfin kayak]

some aulas are fine, depends on the model

stay away from the madlions stuff, super cheeks

[hasty dagger]

aula win60he?

opinion on that

[elfin kayak]

not that one

for aula only the AG line is good, Hero and Win are pretty mid

[hasty dagger]

got carotmas merc68, would it be easy to mod and last long?

dont eant it to be a ticking time bomb like my rk61

[elfin kayak]

you can mod the usual stuff, just not change cases

[hasty dagger]

estimated time of how long would it last me?

[elfin kayak]

keebs usually dont self destruct after some time

[hasty dagger]

phew

[elfin kayak]

you got the mer68 right? not the mer68 lite or mer68 se

[hasty dagger]

se

[hasty dagger]

i got the se one

[elfin kayak]

refund it quick

dont get the se or lite

[hasty dagger]

oh i should get the literal mer 68

[elfin kayak]

yes

[hasty dagger]

alright bet

this one yes?

[elfin kayak]

yep

[hasty dagger]

alright thank you very much

it is hopswabble right

[elfin kayak]

https://giphy.com/gifs/phew-alan-ritchson-i-can-do-that-EDt1m8p5hqXG8

[hasty dagger]

[elfin kayak]

yes theyre hot swappable

[hasty dagger]

great, are they tri mode?

last question

then ill leave u to it

[elfin kayak]

nah not tri mode

99% of HE boards dont do tri mode

[quasi field]

Another win for Sharur then

https://tenor.com/view/overlord-pleiades-lupus-regina-yell-gif-14112792

[hasty dagger]

alright i could work with it

[sharp fiber]

Around 40 is the sweet spot i would say. Still working on my custom superstrike 2C to get there, or just below 40

Im at 50g now

[past dome]

I use the maya x which is just barely sub 50g

[plain schooner]

People out here playing with boulders

32g is the sweet spot for me

[trim atlas]

32g is very very low, need mods for most mice with that

[sharp fiber]

Idle temps non delidded cpu lol

[trim atlas]

100g+ could be a boulder but 40-50 is still on the light end

[ivory tiger]

when do we start using eye trackers instead of mice?

[trim atlas]

that's a bit too much cyberpunk for me, but the tech already exists i believe

[glossy shale]

https://x.com/phalangesco/status/2050802598077161477?s=46

MouseCast (@PhalangesCo)

399 RMB = $58 USD
Composite polymer construction, not magnesium
🥜

X · May 3, 2026, 5:00 AM

[hazy fiber]

great price

[glossy shale]

next budget king potential

[hazy fiber]

but I think it will be more expensive on western market

[trim atlas]

what do you guys think of the hyperlight hitscan

[hazy fiber]

it's good

[glossy shale]

outdated soon

[hazy fiber]

they need to release v2

I prefer crazylight shape and it has web software + newer sensor (doesn't really matter but still)

[trim atlas]

i'm still running a viper v2 pro, it's pretty solid but i want to get something new soon

but yeah the v4 is like 180 euro or something (not sure if that includes 8k dongle)
and the hitscan is like half of that price with dongle

[hazy fiber]

there have been some rumors about viper v4 mini so maybe wait for that

razer please

[trim atlas]

that new logitech mouse is also hyped to shizzles, but i don't want to pay 150 euro or something for a logitech product

[tacit linden]

Does Razer still need Synapse for their stuff or can you just change in browser or on mouse?

[glossy shale]

its like 200 euros

[hazy fiber]

v4 has web

[tacit linden]

I won a Deathadder something something a while back and it didn't have on board memory so if you closed Synapse it defaulted to whatever DPI it comes with so that got sold right away.

[trim atlas]

even more 🥲

[hazy fiber]

oof

[sharp fiber]

I paid 160€

[sharp fiber]

You still need to install the software for setup lol, razer doing anything to get that shit on peoples systems at least once

[glossy shale]

what setup

[sharp fiber]

Last time i checked, the first time you setup the V4 you are still forced to use synapse

[tacit linden]

is the software installer built into the mouse and starts an install as soon as you plug it into your PC?

[glossy shale]

setup how

[sharp fiber]

After that you can uninstall and use web to configure

[glossy shale]

it was plug and play for me

[sharp fiber]

Hm

[twilit flame]

Not for my viper v4 pro

Didnt try installing synapse when i plugged it in like it has for previous razer mice i tried

[hazy fiber]

@twilit flame how crunchy is v4 pro

[twilit flame]

Not really crunchy

[hazy fiber]

you don't like it?

[twilit flame]

Oh no i like it a lot

[hazy fiber]

oh lol

[twilit flame]

Just only thing that can crunch is the plastic

Not our switches…

[sharp fiber]

Ok i just checked, you have to install synapse for macros, dpi settings, remapping and firmware updates no?

[tacit linden]

Synapse was the reason I was never going to buy anything Razer again but if they have made it so you don't ever need to install it anymore then I might consider getting their stuff again. I have a Pulsar Xlite eS v4 mini atm.

[winged pewter]

but then you can uninstall after no?

[twilit flame]

You can change dpi in the web tool, and remap

I don’t remember off the top of my head if macros are in it but i dont think so

[hazy fiber]

I don't think synapse is as terrible nowadays, but there's web software now so

[twilit flame]

And you can just do firmware updates from product support pages

[sharp fiber]

You literally cannot update V4 firmware via synapse web lol

[tacit linden]

I just won't allow anything I plug into my PC to require a software install anymore, web settings at most.

[hazy fiber]

fair

[twilit flame]

Thats why i say product support pages

Not web

[sharp fiber]

In the end they might as well have just not introduced synapse web if its so limited

G Hub never runs for me, thats literally what onboard memory is for

Find settings, save them

Rest is irrelevant. Or you do it like wooting does, actual web implementation that is good

If not to that standard then dont so it at all

[tacit linden]

When I used my Logitech mouse I didn't want G Hub so I used their portable Tournament software I can't remember what it's called.

[sharp fiber]

Ye true also an option

But again G hub can just be uninstalled too

You dont need it

[tacit linden]

Yeah, just have to enable on board in G Hub because by default it is disabled.

[sharp fiber]

Well yeah and save your settings once of course

[tacit linden]

Yah

[winged pewter]

honestly I dont think G hub is all too bad

[sharp fiber]

Its actually good now

It was so bad 5-10 years ago

Sometimes it was ok but i had many problems back then

[glossy shale]

which one is more likely to be spyware g hub or synapse

[sharp fiber]

But the best software is still the one you dont need 😄

[sharp fiber]

Fuck spyware, synapse is a performance hog

[tacit linden]

Before G Hub was LGS right but there was something before that, I can't remember what it was called but my G9x used it.

[sharp fiber]

Razer is dogshit in everything except mouse hardware specifically

[tacit linden]

I was never going to buy anything Razer again and then I bought a Razer mouse bungee because how can you even fuck that up? It broke.

[sharp fiber]

😂

Their laptops are probably the best

You need to have synapse running because if you dont, they throttle perf

But if you do, synapse fucks your perf😂

[tacit linden]

I've only heard horror stories of the Blade laptops, but it looks and feels so nice.

[sharp fiber]

GN made a very funny video about that

[glossy shale]

the gigantus v2 pro mousepads arent all that bad it seems

[tacit linden]

They used to have a large plastic razer logo in the corner of their mousepads so you had like a 10x10cm area you couldn't use.

Might've been on the v1

It was so bad I threw the mousepad in the trash.

[glossy shale]

new one hase a flap

it does have a logo too i wonder if its rubbefy

definitely is

[tacit linden]

💀

It sucks because I peeled mine off but then the whole area was just glue instead so still wasnt usable space.

[glossy shale]

bruh

[tacit linden]

Found it in the trash pile look at this garbage

And it was rubber not plastic but still awful.

[vague sparrow]

I have an artisan but curious about the pd170

Seen good review about it

[gray shuttle]

Glasspad weee

[sharp fiber]

Pretty bad

[sharp fiber]

same i did love Artisan but SP 005 made me fall in love immediately

[obtuse dove]

Yas

[glossy shale]

i got a sp005 and skates that are supposedly smooth on glass but its horrible

[sharp fiber]

which ones?

[glossy shale]

ultraglide rs

im not sure if they are even those skates really

[sharp fiber]

what material are they

[glossy shale]

titanium alloy

[sharp fiber]

HUH?

[crude talon]

I got an sp004 and artisan better

or rather 2

[glossy shale]

https://x.com/p3wfps/status/2050682405380595973?s=46

p3w (@p3wfps)

Thank you @YukiAim for the mousepad!

Very excited to use!! 😄

X · May 2, 2026, 9:02 PM

"comp" setups are a joke

[sharp fiber]

nah

which artisan?

[crude talon]

I think I have hien, zero, ki83, and hayate otsu v2

Hien is my fav

[winged pewter]

meh if it works for him

[twilit flame]

Holy neck breaker

[crude talon]

nackspärr setup

[sharp fiber]

nah the setup needs to be healthy for you

comp means long sessions, it has to be sustainable

[hasty dagger]

whats a good mouse? budget 35$

[sharp fiber]

but if you choose to use your monitor like that im assuming he looks like a deformed shrimp already so nothing lost i guess

[bitter sapphire]

no miku artisan so its already sucks

joke

[abstract warren]

Probably still better than G502

[twilit flame]

Your going to wake him up

[abstract warren]

Maybe he’ll wake up and learn about BBQ

[twilit flame]

No that will wake up mark

And then mark will do a bbq lesson

[hasty dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/fridge-dissapointed-no-food-my-excitement-for-food-is-now-gone-oh-nevermind-gif-17411460

seriously dud

[eternal gale]

I mean.. this dudes radiant in valorant so whatever he’s doing works
Holy hate

Could’ve been hating on the mouse

Or the mystery keyboard

[glossy shale]

vxe r1 se

[eternal gale]

Nope silly monitor angle multiple professional literally use

[glossy shale]

I dont care how many people do it, its still stupid

unergonomic and goofy as fuck

I struggle to see any merit

[eternal gale]

Honestly

I respect that

We need more haters in this world

[glossy shale]

if having an opinion makes one a hater I agree

[eternal gale]

Its more of a rhetorical word I like to use

[glossy shale]

attack shark x3 also in that budget

[eternal gale]

Like its kinda serious but not really

Seeing a logitech mouse in a comp setup pisses me off

Same with random ass keyboards that you know they did the bare minimum to research

Looked up if “keyboard name” good

[glossy shale]

you will see the superstrike because its supposedly faster even if its crap for the users hand

[white jackal]

Mfs will get a setup like that when they‘re hardstuck plat and think it‘s cause their teammates are always bad

[eternal gale]

Truth nuke

[glossy shale]

I wouldnt attack anyones talents but I just dont have a lot of respect for people who arent that into the peripheral hobby but only care whats "best"

Kind of like pokemon card scalpers

[eternal gale]

Exactly I agree

[glossy shale]

or someone who is rich and buys a car only because its fast

[eternal gale]

Yeah

I’m not really much caught up on anything recent related to peripherals besides a few monitors

Mostly because I’m honed in on what I got right now

Pretty happy with the setup

[glossy shale]

you will get fomo and buy stuff you dont need if you are always on board with the stuff I guess

im interested in what budget stuff is coming

[eternal gale]

Custom 80he
Lamzu Atlantis Mini 4k
Artisan hayate otsu v2 xxl xsoft

[white jackal]

Gt80

[glossy shale]

the price standard have blown out of proportion

I wish I got the 80he

[white jackal]

An integral part of my setup is insane amounts of dust

[eternal gale]

I think Lamzu is pretty underrated rn

[eternal gale]

Same. I hate it and I try to clean it every possible time I get

[glossy shale]

they havent released anything substantial in a while so they are kinda under the radar

[white jackal]

I should probably do that but i dont for some reason

[glossy shale]

maya was a good hit back when It came out I think

[eternal gale]

Its really good, I spent like 10 months getting all the parts to build it since Im too stingy to drop like $400 in one day

[glossy shale]

right

[eternal gale]

Thats pretty fair, last thing they released that got a little bit of buzz was the Maya X

[glossy shale]

Yeah

wlmouse beast G looks very interesting

[eternal gale]

They also released the inca but no one really talked about it since it’s basically the same internals as the maya x with a different shape

[eternal gale]

Ive been interested in that brand

I always hear good word on it here

[glossy shale]

i think they are kinda overpriced

but the beast G will be budget

[eternal gale]

Yeah they’re like $150 usually right?

[eternal gale]

How much

[glossy shale]

Yep

around 60$

[eternal gale]

Thats pretty good damn

[glossy shale]

atleast thats the rumored price now

Yeah its a plastic shell now so naturally cheaper

but if its durable its gonna be a great budget mouse

kinda wanna get new switches and a case for my 60he

not too into the gt60 wood strip thingy so idk what to get

[eternal gale]

I mean you aren’t really limited to just 60he specific cases so you could keep on searching 60% cases

[crude talon]

holy60 🗣️ looks fire but doesn’t sound fire

[glossy shale]

the sound is so bad I dont want it lmao

[glossy shale]

or just go with the good old tofu

[crude talon]

think it sounds okay but I got the bottom cover and the foam

[glossy shale]

I see

[crude talon]

well I had a stock 60he before so anything would be an improvement

as a disclaimer

[glossy shale]

this is fun

[hasty dagger]

chat what to change or add?:

KEYBOARD: Carotmas mercury68 (2k php)
~Keyboard i found. looks good and planning to mod and just using for productivity rather than gaming

MOUSE: VXE Dragonfly R1 SE (1.3k php)
~Same with this, think it would fit my setup since its wireless, more on productivity side

usbc to type c (22 php)
~To connect the extension wire to my laptop (for much better reach to the hub)

OTHERS:

Female to Male Extension (90 php)
~Lengthen reach of hub

USB to 4 USB Hub (95 php)
~Where my keyboards, mouse, etc. will be connected

Zeus Laptop Stand (290 php)
~Better laptop stand. (Current ones flimsy)

Inplay KMT-1 Single Monitor Mount (840 php)
~Could buy one that has a laptop mount too but dont think would fit my desk and im fine with just using one monitor in the future

TOTAL: 4.8k php

[heady zenith]

i think php8 is the newest

[round lagoon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om5xhg34YgE

TLDR: Good and neutral are the same thing

Hmm, good is subjective which also mean neutral is subjective. Not much of a surprise.

[quasi field]

Yes

Only neutrality is fidelity

If it's not neutral it's not hi-fi

[round lagoon]

I move my fan to be behind me. Now, rather than blowing to one of my ear constantly, it's now just my back.

[bitter sapphire]

the setup overall clean, but i could not live without 2 monitors

[eternal gale]

Tbh I tried it out using my brothers monitor as an extra for the day and I just dont get it lol

I definitely could live with out it

Having in extra monitor is just slightly more convenient

Only annoying thing about having one monitor is navigating through extra windows

[bitter sapphire]

i have discord/teamspeak and my browser on my 2nd monitor

and time to time OBS if i record something

[eternal gale]

I mean thats pretty fair

I just don’t think its really for me

Idk

I’ll definitely have an extra whenever I upgrade my monitor

So I’d use a second monitor

But for me rn it isn’t a necessity

[bitter sapphire]

My 2nd monitor looks like this LOL

[eternal gale]

I bet your productivity is through the roof

https://tenor.com/view/tinkering-tony-stark-tony-stark-jarvis-gif-24567852

[bitter sapphire]

i don't work at my pc

[glossy shale]

down the floor bro

you cant get anything down with discord and youtube blasting in your peripheral view

Thinking of going to single monitor setup

rarely it helped with some productive stuff but for gaming and other stuff its pure distraction

[bitter sapphire]

i do wanna get a 3rd smaler monitor just for spotify

[glossy shale]

https://klipy.com/gifs/wojak-brainlet-1

[vital gorge]

Can't function without fulltime diatraction

[lament siren]

very nice

[eternal gale]

Yes :>

[sharp fiber]

nah

disagree

[obtuse dove]

@quasi field @round lagoon "good and neutral are the same thing" https://youtu.be/om5xhg34YgE&t=1489

I think thats a good way to explain it ngl

[quasi field]

Yes. Posted already btw

[obtuse dove]

ah lmao

[quasi field]

@obtuse dove

[obtuse dove]

me dum

[blissful gust]

Mines in portrait

[round lagoon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/1szewhu/hd_480_pro_review_hd_490_pro_comparison/

Hmm, hd480 on the public

[sonic zenith]

When's the part where we get the headline "Chat GPT hallucinates full on depression and deletes all of OpenAI's databases in 9 seconds?"

[quasi field]

https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/1t34bty/sony_1000xx_the_collexion_spotted_worn_by_damson/

New Sony ANC headphones just dropped

[hasty dagger]

chat

wheres a good website to get good wallpapers

for a comp setup

[ivory tiger]

Wallpaper Engine

[proper vector]

Good ol' https://wall.alphacoders.com/

[tribal shadow]

yea they prob want to replace the ones that are breaking

[glossy shale]

no

[hasty dagger]

free

[hasty dagger]

whats a good search prompt for it

[hasty dagger]

?

[glossy shale]

comp setup

are a psyop

[hasty dagger]

i respect ur opinion

but i just prefer comp setup

[bitter sapphire]

The heck is a comp setup

[hasty dagger]

just simple tbh

[bitter sapphire]

Ah so the boring ones

Put some plants in your room

[hasty dagger]

if u call it that then ye

[hasty dagger]

yep im planning to put some

[bitter sapphire]

And you could put some RGB as well as background lights

[hasty dagger]

is it weird that i just dont like having rgb

[bitter sapphire]

Like RGB Led strips

[hasty dagger]

am i that boring

[bitter sapphire]

You could even put some displate posters on the wall as well

[trim atlas]

https://wallhaven.cc/

[hasty dagger]

nice, gimme some search prompts

[trim atlas]

https://wallhaven.cc/random you can start with this

it has a few buttons like top list, latest, random etc

[hasty dagger]

bettt

thank you paps

[trim atlas]

you're welcome ^^

[bitter sapphire]

I wish there where more Steampunk style wallpapers

[deep hawk]

Switchy Pool Chilling Wallpapers Wen

[trim atlas]

https://wallhaven.cc/search?q=steampunk&categories=111&purity=110&sorting=relevance&order=desc&page=2

[bitter sapphire]

Would be cool to see wooting.io/wallpapers

[trim atlas]

if you make an account, you can see the ... spicy wallpapers

[bitter sapphire]

I use wallpaper engine so

[trim atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-20966221

[glossy shale]

https://youtu.be/U64NlZL1qCo?is=fiMNZjBPIif-LGYZ

biggest shil on the block

[glossy shale]

no it looks shit

[hasty dagger]

okay

[fiery surge]

I got rgb and now im over it

No rgb is so much better

Only rgb i allow is on my keyboard so that i can see the keys while gaming late night

I’m tempted to swap my case and get some fans that are no rgb

[bitter sapphire]

Maybe im old but i hate gaming without lights

[fiery surge]

I only game without lights because of the kids

Once shes out of her cot shes out of the room hahaha

[hasty dagger]

only light i got is a lamp

[bitter sapphire]

I just enjoy setting my room in purple light

As my pc’s only RGB is coming from the case

[fiery surge]

If theres a way to turn off my ram, gpu and cooler RGB without using Gcc i would do it in a heartbeat

Even then - gcc wont then off my gpus rgb

[bitter sapphire]

RGB system

[glossy shale]

philips hue 4000k+ lights are acceptable rgb

[bitter sapphire]

Way to expensive xd

[quasi field]

The new design also looks prone to snapping

[obtuse dove]

@quasi field this is probably the worst take by crin

Not the part where he claims that reference sounds like flat studio monitors, but the fact that studios should mix and master for AirPods!? 😭

[heady zenith]

yes lets master for shitty equipment so everyone suffers

[obtuse dove]

Yeahhhhhh

[heady zenith]

i actually think we should master for the earbuds the ipod included when it launched

some people still use those

[obtuse dove]

Right but that's still at the expense of everyone else with nice audio equipment

Or like, any other piece of audio

[quasi field]

Stoopid yeah

[obtuse dove]

Ok Tbf I know some studios mix and master differently on Apple Music vs something like Spotify but that's reasonable I think because you know who the target user base is for both of those platforms.

Also because Apple has the additional feature of Dolby Atmos

which you have to mix and master completely differently from typical stereo to sound good

[round lagoon]

I think it comes from this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3wr8VuJGyI

[obtuse dove]

It's still a bad take though

Mixing and mastering for AirPods as the standard is a really bad idea

[round lagoon]

Why? I mean, a lot of people are familiar with the sound, and a lot of people using it.

[obtuse dove]

Because it's at the sacrifice of everyone else who don't use AirPods

[round lagoon]

I don't mind it, but I can see why it could be bad.

[round lagoon]

any alternative then when you want to mix a song that's going to be listened by everybody/normie/non audiophile?

[obtuse dove]

Allow users to set their own app level EQ

doesn't need to be fancy

Just like a list of presets is good enough

Like Spotify

And if users want they can play with the sliders

[terse ferry]

@obtuse dove why eq? Your headphones are not enough?

[round lagoon]

I dunno, that sounds too complex for my mom

[obtuse dove]

I guess a flat set of studio monitors that can reach the full spectrum of human hearing is enough

But those aren't necessarily headphones

[quasi field]

All headphones sound different. The best solution towards having a goal of high fidelity is to make the music on flat speakers, and then consumers listen to ideally flat/neutral speakers or headphones that sound neutral

https://seanolive.blogspot.com/2009/10/audios-circle-of-confusion.html?m=1

[sharp fiber]

But most consumer headphones/monitors are not flat, think gaming for example, most are bass heavy because it sounds more interesting to the average person

[quasi field]

But we have research pointing towards what people actually prefer. These headphones often do not comply with that very much which is their loss ultimately

[round lagoon]

67

[astral musk]

https://giphy.com/gifs/arrowvideo-arrow-video-player-the-righteous-zGesmx9tDxhXNixk5P

[round lagoon]

So TLDR: Always mix on the best ideal condition because when you're mixing stuff for the thing that sound shit, it'll make the ideal condition sound shit. The condition that make a certain setup 'terrible' is always varied no matter what.

It'll then shift the burden to the consumer to get the best setup possible within their budget (which is more than possible thanks to affordable IEM and EQ). But in the end, they're able to listen to the music 'as the artist intended'.

[round lagoon]

Inversely, the condition to make a setup sounds good is always the same (calibrated speaker in a treated room).

@quasi field Is this TLDR correct? This is what I think of after reading the blog (only 3 years younger than me uuu)

[sharp fiber]

that is true but the reality is that thats the case

[quasi field]

Yes

[glossy shale]

why does my raiden feel like a control pad

[dry summit]

it’s sensitive to dirt, oils and break in wear
so maybe time for a clean?

if you want a surface clean then use damp microfiber cloth with only water
for a deep clean use lukewarm water and a tiny bit of pH-neutral soap and gently massage the pad
avoid hard brushes
don’t use a hair dryer or put it in the sun to dry as it can damage the pad
just leave it to air dry for 24 hours

[patent patrol]

u got everything under control 😎

[dry summit]

raiden is a speed pad

[glossy shale]

cleaned it 67 times and barely use it

[dry summit]

then i don't know
maybe it just feels control to ya

i play on a glass mousepad

[sharp fiber]

You hand washed that specific pad 67 times????

[obtuse dove]

crinear reference

jm1 target

[glossy shale]

399 oled is a pretty good deal

and a 500hz samsung one for 750

they probably have some crap panels tho

[quasi field]

Are you crossing it out because it hasn't been proven in an official listening study? Or because according to PEQdB it has?

[round lagoon]

Hmm, I might go to the library next week and see if their place is quiet enough for me to do mixing. I have a large one and only been there 1-2 year ago once, but iirc it's pretty quiet and empty.

[obtuse dove]

Yeah there hasn't been any proper study on it

Which is why I'm skeptical

[junior thicket]

Is it Soft or XSoft by chance?

[quasi field]

I am in the process of moving out and sadly my new room is a little noiser

Also don't have a desk, chair or bed yet so I'm just sitting on the floor rn

[glossy shale]

soft

[round lagoon]

Sad.

[quasi field]

Well it's a football stadium

When I arrived there was a match playing and it was quite loud

And that was with my window closed and maybe 15% attendance to the match

Here you can hear it

Still there aren't matches often

I'll just have to be mad they interrupt my listening sessions

[junior thicket]

Then thats the reason it "feels" like a Control Pad

you have a Soft base, which will make it feel more slow

Since your tend to get a lot more Friction when pressing your mouse down

[blissful gust]

I always wondered what it was like living next to these.... On one hand free tickets on the other.... Well this lol

[glossy shale]

even without pressing down it is pretty controlled

idk why the hell I got the soft one

[junior thicket]

The soft is generally slower c:

[crude talon]

the surface doesn’t feel slow even on xsoft pads though
a raiden shouldn’t feel controlled unless you’re comparing to glass or pressing extremely hard

[winged pewter]

Wtf

That seems like someone got illegal zoning permits lmao

[glossy shale]

it feels slower than hien mid

it has a higher static friction which is why I dont like it much

only reason I use it is that its pretty good with a sleeve, saturn pro feels too muddy on some days so artisan wins

id use glass but havent gotten around ordering new skates yet.

have an sp005 and "ultraglide rs" which turn muddy after 2 hours of use

they might be mislabeled silences

[junior thicket]

Did you buy from authorised seller? That is pretty odd xD

[glossy shale]

its not a fake

[heady crystal]

https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/1t3r0or/rog_strix_oled_xg27aqwmg_mcm104_to_mcm107/

I'm noticing huge improvements with this update

[dry summit]

i think ive also noticed things since updating my firmware earlier

[frigid ivy]

kinda nice that updating monitor firmware is becoming more common

like 10 years ago you just get what you get out of the box

unless it was a high end monitor

[dry summit]

ive never done that before, i didnt know how before today

[ivory tiger]

[frigid ivy]

@round lagoon I asked Listener HDB 630 or 480 Pros?

[quasi field]

Is there a Headphone Show Discord?

[frigid ivy]

lol yeah

lots of people

[quasi field]

My new bed is up and running. Yes this is PC gear

[frigid ivy]

only a twin size?

[quasi field]

My room is small

[frigid ivy]

I feel like I would roll off 50% of the time lol

ah rip

[quasi field]

Only 2,2 meter wide room

So this 90cm wide bed + 80 cm deep desk + space to move the chair around

[frigid ivy]

what about one of those fold out beds

[quasi field]

My room has this droning noise that reminds me of the backrooms

[quasi field]

Too late now even if I had found one I like

[quasi field]

That looks xpensive

[frigid ivy]

lol yeah

[heady crystal]

Should've gotten one of those bunk beds where the bottom is actually a desk

Perfect for a child's bedroom

[quasi field]

https://tenor.com/view/overlord-pleiades-lupus-regina-yell-gif-14112792

[blissful gust]

Are you in a prison cell

[quasi field]

No. But yeah it does actually look like a prison lol

Or a public school. Very soulless floors and walls

[blissful gust]

It's giving me anxiety remaining me of my childhood room lol

I used to feel suffocated

[quasi field]

But I will get a carpet and hang something nice on the walls

[frigid ivy]

needs more anime posters

[quasi field]

You grew up in prison? 🤯

[quasi field]

The room is very reverberant so I might hang up something to make it less so

[frigid ivy]

if I could, I would paint the walls of my bedroom with vantablack

ultimate darkness for sleeping

[heady crystal]

Brother lives in a football stadium

Are they even a good team?

Asking the important question

[quasi field]

No idea. I don't care about football. They're called Brann if you want to look them up

[frigid ivy]

lmao someone on reddit actually did it

[quasi field]

That looks bad

[heady crystal]

Currently 8th in the Norwegian first division

[quasi field]

Like someone removed the wall in an editing program

[frigid ivy]

irl glitch

[quasi field]

I don't know if that's good

[heady crystal]

There are 16 teams

So that's mid-table

[frigid ivy]

not good enough to get promoted into the next tier

unless they are already in the top league

[quasi field]

Hopefully they don't lose if it means a brick through my window

[frigid ivy]

so why are you living there atm?

[quasi field]

It's student housing actually

[frigid ivy]

damn that's an interesting choice for housing

lol

[quasi field]

I moved out of my last apartment because the people there were filthy and I wanted my own bathroom and kitchen which I now have

[lament siren]

dw i can provide that service for free

[quasi field]

Looks like this from the outside. Windows along the left are student apartments. Mine is on the inside with window into the stadium instead of out towards the road

[winged pewter]

Looks like agony

[frigid ivy]

do you just not sleep when it's game night?

[quasi field]

I guess the stadium one is better maybe? Though I have no idea. I won't get to hear cars driving by outside and such which is nice

[quasi field]

Are there football matches at night?

[frigid ivy]

pretty normal in the US lol

[lament siren]

he doesnt know

GG

soria is cooked

[atomic lark]

Better become fan of the teams fast, I've only ever lived kilometers away from stadions and never would want to move towards one

[quasi field]

If there are football matches after 23:00 I'll be very disappointed

I'll have to sleep with Airpods Max on

[winged pewter]

I mean they last till late

And then u have supporters rummaging about

[quasi field]

Well most of the time there won't be any playing at least

[atomic lark]

Well the upside is, you can sell tickets for people visiting you

[quasi field]

The view sucks when matches are going on. The windows are covered with some halfway transparent ugly garbage

That's how it looks

[frigid ivy]

is that your AC unit?

[quasi field]

No it's an oven

[atomic lark]

I think the word we're looking for is radiator

[frigid ivy]

I'm used to them looking like this lol

[dry summit]

i think you call em radiators/heaters, no?

[dry summit]

mine looks even older than that

[quasi field]

In English? I don't know 🤔

[vital gorge]

I have those, and they're a bit leaky 🙁

[dry summit]

pretty sure they're called radiators in english

i've never had one leak

[lament siren]

buddy said "bad view"

at least you get to enjoy a free match tf

well i shouldnt say free since youre renting but still better than nothing

[round lagoon]

Yay

[rigid dagger]

looks like a radiator to me

ive seen those when visiting family in europe a lot

[hasty dagger]

carotmas mercury 68 vs mad68 which should i get for modding and productivity

[proper vector]

Either or, it's the same OEM board inside anyway

[spark agate]

insane view lmao

[olive silo]

Does anyone have this monitor and is it any good ? https://www.currys.co.uk/products/msi-mag-255xf-full-hd-24.5-rapid-ips-gaming-monitor-black-10276277.html

I’ve had 3 msi 180hz monitors in total and after a while they do get horizontal lines, I had to replace one out of my own pocket for some reason, not even the warranty helped

I would go for another monitor brand as I find the msi ones to be generally shit however most of the msi monitors look the same and my mum uses my setup and would like the bezels to be small and the monitors to be the same so yeah tough luck for me

[past dome]

MSI have good monitors, but it doesn't matter what brand. You can't expect a £100 monitor to be as good as one five times the price

Samsung and LG are the main panel manufacturers, so it doesn't matter if its msi, asus, gigabyte, etc... So many different monitors all still use the same panel

[patent patrol]

forgetting BOE and AUO smh

[quasi field]

My new desk is up. The Ikea Utespelare (out-spieler). It's very sturdy and well built and I have way more space now
Though my monitor desk stand doesn't work well with it

https://tenor.com/view/overlord-pleiades-lupus-regina-yell-gif-14112792

[patent patrol]

https://x.com/tftcentral/status/2051703706492518408?s=46

TFTCentral (@TFTCentral)

LG Display have showcased a new 27” sized Tandem WOLED panel with a 5K resolution and 220 PPI pixel density at SID Display Week 2026. We’re seeking more info and specs so will provide a news piece soon with info

X · May 5, 2026, 4:40 PM

[heady crystal]

Pogging out of my mind

[winged pewter]

Professional content creators my ass

[quasi field]

oooo
But won't be 240 Hz sadly

[patent patrol]

yep

but atleast the panel exists

[quasi field]

Maybe there'll be a 240 Hz one announced within 2027?

I hope for that

Oh my god stop with this meme!!!

[patent patrol]

cant be that hard really

like idk what the issue would be, maybe lg not knowledgeable in making small pixels for monitors or sum?

[quasi field]

Sometimes I wonder if the biggest thing holding advancement back is all the Redditors going «5k 240 Hz? Good luck running that! And 240 Hz is just placebo! »

https://tenor.com/view/lupusregina-beta-overlord-overlord-anime-will-kill-you-pistol-gif-25342174

[patent patrol]

we got the display drivers and stuff already for the mini leds

maybe too expensive / they dont see a market

[quasi field]

A 5k 240 Hz oled would no doubt sell quite well imo

[winged pewter]

But tbf what can run 5k240?

[quasi field]

A great deal of games made before 2015

[winged pewter]

With what pixels will those game run 5k

[patent patrol]

the highest ppi oleds rn should be 4k 27inch ones with 166

[winged pewter]

[patent patrol]

other then phones and all that

[quasi field]

But it's also a great desktop experience. And with DLSS being so common you can still benefit from the extra resolution. Render natively at 1440p and upscale to 5k. Or render natively at 1440p without upscaling since 1440p integer scales with 5k and therefore is a far better «dual mode» display than 4k/2k ones

[patent patrol]

5k 240 with 1440p 480 or sum like that would be awesome

we got 5k 165hz / 1440p 330hz already so

but not oled

[quasi field]

8k seems like it might be a real endgame in the 27 to 32 inch category. It's just so good of a resolution in general

[round lagoon]

someday, we can get it for $300

[quasi field]

I'd switch to a 27 or 32 inch 8k monitor in a heartbeat, assuming it's now low refresh rate or a big downgrade in some other way

Incredibly backwards compatible resolution

[sharp fiber]

At this point the only thing worth waiting for is more ELMB or equivalent monitors

270hz ELMB is insane, motion clarity of 540hz while only needing 270 1440p. BFI is the future

[quasi field]

8k ultrawide (10080 × 4320) when?

[sharp fiber]

And why 5k specifically?

[patent patrol]

bfi is cool and all but the benefit of higher refreshrate on oled or similar is higher imo

i wish they would finally make oled bfi without halving refreshrate tho

[sharp fiber]

No because you have to saturate that framerate

[quasi field]

Better than 4k, while also being the only widely supported next step up in resolution. Also a great resolution for gaming though this is specifically marketed as a content creation monitor

[patent patrol]

i can easily do that on 480hz 1440p?

[sharp fiber]

The technical advantage of seeing frames faster between 270hz vs 540 is basically null

Yet the motion clarity gained is huge

[sharp fiber]

In The Finals for example?

Or arc raiders?

[patent patrol]

i dont play those

[sharp fiber]

Ye

[patent patrol]

should be easy i esports titles tho

and u will see a big smoothness diff between 270 and 540

[sharp fiber]

What does 5k mean in your book? Because 5k is commonly a term used to specify ultrawide

[sharp fiber]

No not with BFI

[quasi field]

LCDs still do strobing/BFI the most effectively sadly

[sharp fiber]

Thats what i am saying

[patent patrol]

yes definitely 😭

[sharp fiber]

No?

[quasi field]

Some LCDs with strobing beat CRTs in motion tracking clarity

[sharp fiber]

Factually untrue

[patent patrol]

bro try them

[sharp fiber]

270hz ELMB =540hz no elmb

Actually

[patent patrol]

😭 😭

[sharp fiber]

270 hz ELMB is slightly nicer

[quasi field]

16:9

[patent patrol]

thats not how it works

[sharp fiber]

But basically no difference

[sharp fiber]

Its fact my guy

You can test for motion clarity

Are you dense?

[quasi field]

5k specifying ultrawide is stoopid imo. They should stick to it meaning 16:9 on its own. But I'm fine with saying «5k ultrawide»

[patent patrol]

motion clarity is only part of the viewing experience

smoothness and stuff exists

[sharp fiber]

Yeah i mean the whole 2k 5k etc is commonly misused thats why i asked

[patent patrol]

u will feel the missing frames

[sharp fiber]

Same thing, can be tested

[sharp fiber]

No

[patent patrol]

i had so many monitors man

just try it pls

[sharp fiber]

I did

[quasi field]

I use 2k meaning 1920 x 1080 for 16:9 and 5k for 5120 x 2880 16:9

[sharp fiber]

And it can be tested for, like i said

[patent patrol]

then your eyes slow or sum

[sharp fiber]

Again, the new asus specifically has the same, if not slightly better motion clarity at 270hz ELMB vs 540hz no ELMB (270hz is the highest hz it can use elmb on) this is FACT

[patent patrol]

if you shoot an image with a camera of it maybe

[sharp fiber]

and the difference of ms per frame is minimal, 1.85ms 540hz vs 3.70 ms

[patent patrol]

but thats only motion clarity

[sharp fiber]

I think you are slow😂

None of this is arguable its fact

You can easily look at blurbusters testing, or literally anyone else

We have indepth testing of most things nowadays that arguing opinion where the topic is fact based is just a waste of time

[patent patrol]

im not talking about motion clarity 😭

[sharp fiber]

The only other thing you mentioned was smoothness, and 'missing the frames'

[patent patrol]

yep u can obviously feel the difference between 270hz bfi and 540hz no bfi

the first will feel more choppy

[sharp fiber]

Explain choppy

You are not using real words

Explain it in a measurable term, because it is measurable

[patent patrol]

you will feel that it takes more time to get a new frame

[sharp fiber]

And also what game can you maintain 540fps not average, but 1% lows 1440p??

[sharp fiber]

No, you are not advanced enough to feel literally a single ms😂😂😂😂😂

I come from fighting games

Where literally every ms matters

[proper vector]

If you have hi-refresh monitor try it out https://testufo.com/blackframes

[winged pewter]

I have bfi 280hz to 120hz iirc

Doesn’t feel good

[patent patrol]

are we back at: u can only see 60hz now or sum

[sharp fiber]

The difference between 120ms reaction time and 180ms means being able to react to some things or not, 5ms matters

[sharp fiber]

I talk specifically the Asus swift monitor

[patent patrol]

cs, val ow and stuff

[sharp fiber]

1% lows 540fps or more in cs and val? Let alone OW? show me lol

[winged pewter]

Which one lol

[sharp fiber]

The 540hz with ELMB.

ASUS ROG Swift OLED PG27AQWP-W

[quasi field]

Native is ultimately better than any form of strobing assuming they are both at the same persistence

[proper vector]

Me too
Tekken, DoA and Guilty Gear
That's how I know pretty much all fighting games run on 60/s tickrate

[sharp fiber]

In theory yes but like i mentioned, the big up of BFI is that you need HALF the maintained fps to get the same effect visually, while beyond 240hz honestly not losing barely anything.

[sharp fiber]

I only mained for Honor so not a real fighting game but extremely reaction based so i know the value of even 5 or 10ms, but its not something you feel. Let alone 1 ms lol he is talking out of his ass

[patent patrol]

and thats 4k max

[quasi field]

Current oled BFI sux ass because it's nowhere near as good as it can be. Hopefully it will catch up more to LCDs or CRTs so you can have much greater reduction of persistence. Such as having <2ms at 60 fps

[sharp fiber]

And i am a fan of 1440p for competetive, i mean i wish i could play 4k at 240hz or 540 or whatever but its not possible ESPECIALLY in the Finals for example, which is what i enjoy to play comp

[sharp fiber]

ELMB is good

[winged pewter]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYMI7MsnT1o didnt someone enjoy this

[sharp fiber]

And Overwatch?

[patent patrol]

really wondering why they not implementing it at native refresh - should be bright enough assuming the usual 50% drop

[winged pewter]

yeah iirc I ran at 1k too in valo

[patent patrol]

gotta find a benchmark before they destroyed the performance

[sharp fiber]

But i think you get my point

There are a lot of games and many wont let you run 540hz or more 1440p

Comp games*

[quasi field]

I don't know why. Might just be a skill issue. But the current implementations are not good

LG CX/1 still has the best implementation of BFI in an OLED and those are «old» now

[proper vector]

It's always funny when "comp" Apex players say they need 480Hz panel for it

[patent patrol]

i get that its best for you to use bfi giving the performance of some games but pls dont think its the same or better then what could be achieved at double the framerate without it

[frigid ivy]

Apex engine cap is 300 lol

Also it's almost impossible getting high fps in the endgame with 10 ults going off

[sharp fiber]

It is the same as double the framerate for anything except ms per frame

Again, only difference is this

and the difference of ms per frame is minimal, 1.85ms 540hz vs 3.70 ms

[frigid ivy]

And thermite nades

[sharp fiber]

I imagine

[patent patrol]

what did that techless video say

we can potentially see like 40000fps

[frigid ivy]

I would like a gsync pulsar monitor but not at the current pricing

[sharp fiber]

Its not a flat 50%, 20-50 but you underestimate how difficult and straining it is to turn off the pixels so often

[sharp fiber]

Yes but exactly for the reasons i am mentioning

[quasi field]

It was 38k something in a worst case scenario (someone very sensitive to stroboscopic effects)

Most would not need that high to achieve «retina» refresh rate

[sharp fiber]

The physical effects of motion blur and other phenomena, not because you can see 1 ms difference

[glossy shale]

chatgpt generate me pure slop

alternate title: i used regular ass gear and nothing changed

[proper vector]

"I used pro player configuration and it sucked, because pros spend long hours to tailor their config specifically and only to themselves and no one should copy their config exactly"

[quasi field]

These videos always seem so desperate. I imagine half of the viewership consists of teenagers that desperately want to become pros so they can avoid having a job

[proper vector]

Nah mate, with this glass pad and finalmouse super pro extreme magnesium I'll easily reach Radiant, then every pro org will want me

[vague sparrow]

Understandable given the economy

[dry summit]

calsy

[vague sparrow]

Honestly I understand young people wanting to be footballer or pro gamers

[patent patrol]

but ts makes money

[vague sparrow]

I want to become an influencer but I have little skill in influencing

[patent patrol]

just review shit

[proper vector]

Even if you don't succeed you will get a bunch of crap for free

[vague sparrow]

Yeah I could do that in my shy style

[quasi field]

Yes we need more of those

[vague sparrow]

I am the reverse influencer

If razer come with a nice mouse, logitech send me money to review it

At the end of the review people either left or are sleeping and everyone forgot about the mouse

[patent patrol]

i dont know about being an "influencer" but creating interesting content seems good

[quasi field]

As long as it's interesting and good

I always feel like there are too many useless tech YouTubers. So many people start a channel and just do absolutely nothing interesting. They do lukewarm technical reviews that are bested by so many other channels or websites in detail or methodology. So they end up feeling very run of the mill. And it's very hard to succeed when doing this as there is almost no reason to watch your channel unless you have a lot of videos about products no one else have reviewed. And even then it's hard

Gamer's Nexus has some of the most detailed case reviews on YouTube as far as I know. So that's why I subscribe to him. He manages to be standout

[vital gorge]

thats also the reason i only watch some of their stuff

[quasi field]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfO_Z2J4Zps

Excited to see measurements for these

[proper vector]

I like his rants about corporations

[vital gorge]

yeah.. theyre getting a bit old..
while still being true

[quasi field]

I don't really watch those. He seems to spend so much time doing that now

It's not why I subscribed to him years ago

He's now a full-time drama channel, part-time case reviewer

[patent patrol]

dont think u have to do the best tests and stuff

[proper vector]

I mean he should keep them to other channel, but it's good that he does these

[quasi field]

You don't have to. But if your tests/reviews don't stand out then at least be cute

[patent patrol]

Just having good quality and be entertaining seems to already be a high barrier lol

[proper vector]

If you are not cute have big boobs and don't show face, usually works

[patent patrol]

very rarely seeing good videos from people that dont get clicks

[quasi field]

Monitor's Unboxed seems to be the best monitor review channel on YouTube. Best measuring gear etc. and that's how they get my views. Don't care much for their main channel

[patent patrol]

although i wouldn't expect you to grow very big by just doing reviews nowadays

[quasi field]

You should look at «audiophile» YouTube. Most of the channels are middle-aged people just holding up a pair of headphones for 10 minutes while saying absolutely nonsensical anecdotes with no technical knowledge and that's it

[patent patrol]

😭

[quasi field]

https://youtu.be/Jcdy4vt81Bw

Like this channel

Absolutely useless

[dry summit]

the thumbnail already

[quasi field]

Also no measurements or anything

[dry summit]

wouldnt watch

[quasi field]

Just yapping for 30 minutes

[patent patrol]

thats why he not big

[quasi field]

And btw if you have 16k subs you are probably in the top 20 of audiophile YouTubers

Well actually that's probably not true. Top 50 maybe?

[patent patrol]

atleast boardzy kinda entertaining with it

[quasi field]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXncFIHDjpU

77k subs

[vague sparrow]

Also he moves into way more serious content about corruption in the industry

[quasi field]

1 hour long nonsensical videos about audiophile cables

AI thumbnail too

[patent patrol]

77k subs but only 3 videos with 100k views (below 150k still)

thats a long growth

[quasi field]

@ducky

Oh wait I think I already sent you this video before. Glad the ping didn't work then

[quasi field]

It's a bit stagnant yeah. But still one of the bigger channels

Any audio channel that doesn't measure is basically worthless. Measurements are far more useful than someone just giving impressions

Imagine if monitor reviews just had people telling you how the colours pop instead of measuring the display

[obtuse dove]

Yeah lmao

[quasi field]

It's so weird. He could easily have just held up a cable and photographed it

[obtuse dove]

Yeah......

[patent patrol]

i like Valour 😅

[quasi field]

He's awful imo

[patent patrol]

best production quality for audio videos i think

[quasi field]

His videos are very bad but he has a somewhat decent production

[quasi field]

Probably

I haven't watched him since my snake oil days

[patent patrol]

and content seems good for avg people

or like gamers

[round lagoon]

zreviews be like

[quasi field]

Oh yes I forgot about him. He's a 0/10 reviewer for sure

Talks far too long, constantly falls for snake oil products

Doesn't measure. Almost completely useless videos

He has so much snakeoil gear

[vague sparrow]

What do you think of fresh reviews?

[quasi field]

Haven't heard of him

[vague sparrow]

He is doing review of gaming accessories

[round lagoon]

No measurement, gaming pheripheral focused

[frigid ivy]

Most reviewers are just vibe reviewing most of the time

[frigid ivy]

And most of them don't do volume match listening

Even those who do don't show how the volume match

[quasi field]

Most people don't have multimeters for volume matching which I understand. But yeah people don't even try