🌐│pc_gear

[lament siren]

lowkey mark users a g502

[abstract warren]

That’s cuz broski still can’t lift his styll mate out of the hood, don’t let a yute tell you different fam

[fringe yacht]

"professional grade" doesn't exactly mix well with "AI-Slop"^^

[lament siren]

@grok go away

[round lagoon]

nice nice

I don't think it can know I'm sensitive to specific freq lmao

[quasi field]

Siri, EQ my headphones to perfectly match my HRTF but without having any data about my HRTF

[frigid ivy]

maybe if you use the lidar camera that's on iPhone now

a very rough hrtf model

[quasi field]

No way that would give good results. It has no idea of my ear canal shape

[bitter sapphire]

<@&1098943457654997093>

[frigid ivy]

damn getting more common recently

[oblique totem]

That can be found using the feedback mic for the anc
All the top anc units do this now

[quasi field]

Wat. Sauce?

[lunar holly]

TS tufff

[opal rampart]

f

[lunar holly]

f

[lament siren]

f

[ivory tiger]

f

[blissful leaf]

f

[bitter sapphire]

f

[gray shuttle]

Huh?

[heady crystal]

f

[frozen patio]

f

[steady tiger]

f

[gaunt flax]

f

[blissful gust]

What

[gray shuttle]

f

[astral musk]

Alright lads. Move the f on.

[proper vector]

No, wait
I never saw this channel agree on something for so long

[gray shuttle]

We're evolving

Efolfing, if you will

[astral musk]

https://giphy.com/gifs/ponkehq-solana-ponke-ponkesol-yQ3otCebaSYa5x26yM

[bitter sapphire]

But we where just praying our respects

[gray shuttle]

Oeoeoeoeoeaaahaaah ahhh

[heady crystal]

So anyway I’ve purchased IEMs

📉

[tacit linden]

https://rog.asus.com/power-supply-units/rog-equalizer/rog-equalizer/

I hope I get this new cable for free, I bought my PSU like 3 months ago or something.

[quasi field]

Which one?

[heady crystal]

That was a joke about this channel actually agreeing on something

[winged pewter]

Already purchased a ROG Thor III or ROG Strix Platinum power supply? Check out the upgrade program with a special discount:

Coming Soon

[tacit linden]

Yeah, videocardz said cable will be provided for free if you already bought some of these models but I can't find any info on the website except for coming soon but it doesn't mention it being free.

[winged pewter]

Special discount sounds not free

[tacit linden]

Yeah, probably 100 euro maybe 80 for "existing users" because ASUS tax so probably at least twice as expensive compared to that seems logical. You could tell they were releasing something new anyway because they have been running deals on old stock for the past few weeks.

[tacit linden]

It did say free yesterday.

[blissful gust]

Will the new version of the PSU go up in price?

[tacit linden]

Probably, like everything else but the current models are already VERY expensive, the 1600W one is like 750 euro.

[vague sparrow]

Hello I try to do the thing of super review with the white noise but from the beginning do you have to select your iem? @round lagoon

[round lagoon]

Any iem should do but selecting your iem gives you a better idea on what the iem sound signature is

[vague sparrow]

the issue is I stuggle to select mine I dont know I am confused with the interface

[round lagoon]

Search for your iem and press it

[vague sparrow]

for some reason if I select here my iem there is a list with for example hangout audio and if I click on it it opens another windows

[round lagoon]

Dont click that. Click the one on the very top

[vague sparrow]

?

Which one

sorry

[round lagoon]

Scroll up and see if there's your iem listen without gray background

I recommend you watch his video on how to eq first

[vague sparrow]

Well there isnt

everything is in a gray box

oh it is an issue with ew300

I tried another iem and there is indeed one without a gray box

[cinder pecan]

chat what headphones

i use airpods rn

[round lagoon]

how's the EQing?

[cinder pecan]

but i need soem overhead for pc and piano

im thinking about beyerdynamic DT 770 PRO X

[round lagoon]

Budget, use case (gaming, music or what?), and sound preference.

[cinder pecan]

i just want to match like the quality of a wooting keybaord

gaming and instruments

i dont have a preference since no expierence

[vague sparrow]

I didnt start I will do it this afternoon

[round lagoon]

https://mezeaudio.com/products/empyrean2?srsltid=AfmBOoqlt88XimVEBYwxv_xoqdWwLHwTcqmAsix_NU1tC8wP-U2m1Slv

[vague sparrow]

I will tell you if it works for me

[cinder pecan]

yeah drop the budget to max 200

[round lagoon]

Good good, Hd560s

[vague sparrow]

I got the ew300 mainly for gaming but also for listening a little bit to music

[round lagoon]

you can get that under $200

always specify budget, or else you get Empy (or HE-1)

[vague sparrow]

and btw I tried various eartip my favorite are the sancai and the spinfit, I dont like the velvet

[cinder pecan]

any expierence with those

[round lagoon]

Just horrible graph wise

I don't recommend beyer at all due to the horrible graph, just get hd560s and you'll be happy

[cinder pecan]

is the limited edition the same as the normal edition

[round lagoon]

not sure, but every beyer headphone kinda graph like that

so yeh, just get hd560s

[cinder pecan]

ill just use them at home but i would still want to have passive noise cancelling

and idk with open back design

[proper vector]

You have a store nearby where you can try them on? Would be best
After all, if they don't fit, they sound like shi

[cinder pecan]

no i blind buy

[round lagoon]

man, should've specified. I actually don't know what's good closed back. You could try fiio ft1

[proper vector]

If you want passive noise canceling then closed backs

[cinder pecan]

🍊

[proper vector]

oreng

[quasi field]

FT1 is kind of muddy sounding imo

But not an issue if you EQ

[round lagoon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7GKnVKXbDQ

Hmm, crossover. Basically if done right, a way to gives the manu more leeway to tune the iem the way that they want

But in the end of the day, just look at the FR

[quasi field]

If all quantifiable metrics are identical, then it doesn't matter how you get there.

If two cars are driving at the same speed, does the car with the diesel engine drive faster than the car with the electric engine?
No, they are driving at the same speed, so one is going exactly as fast as the other, and it doesn't matter what type of engine drives them.

[round lagoon]

yesh yesh

Oratory?

[proper vector]

I mean - FR is measured for the creepy head with mics in it
If your shape of the head is different and headphones don't fit as well, then FR for your ears will change too

[round lagoon]

doesn't matter though if you use the same head to measure different headphone/iem. You can still see measurable difference between the two even if it isn't the same on your head

[proper vector]

Yeah, but difference may also, well, be different, for unusual shapes of head

[quasi field]

Yes

[quasi field]

Yes of course but the same applies to if you EQ two different headphones to have the same FR as measured on your own head. Then they will sound the exact same regardless of what driver they have etc. assuming non-linear distortion is inaudible. The only thing that might be different is the openness as a result of occlusion or lack thereof. But this isn't actually a property of the sound that is being created by the elements themselves

[cinder pecan]

what does this chart try to tell me

[quasi field]

Horizontally it shows the frequencies. Vertically it shows how loud these frequencies are. What makes a headphone sound a way is how loud each frequency is in relation to each other

[cinder pecan]

so the more straight the better?

[quasi field]

No

Well, depends on the graph

That's an uncompensated graph, in which case you absolutely do not want it to be flat

[cinder pecan]

if im not audiophile does this even matter

[cinder pecan]

okay chat

[quasi field]

Of course. It's what determines how it sounds. But if you don't care how it'll sound then it doesn't matter

[round lagoon]

even if you're not an audiophile, it still matters for gaming/music. Better graph means better information gathering for gaming when it comes to sound, it also means you can enjoy the music better as long as the graph matches your taste.

[proper vector]

Everyone prefers something different

[rotund tree]

audio stuff is so funny

[cinder pecan]

so the more accurate it comes to the 3k usd one the better?

[rotund tree]

im now daily driving moondrop chu 2s that cost me like 25 bucks and they're perfectly fine

it's also possible that im deaf but spending a ton of money on audio doesnt make any sense to me anymore

[quasi field]

While true I still think it's important to mention that it's not completely random with no overlap between what people tend to prefer, hence why there is such a thing as a bad frequency response and a good one. So some things are far better recommendations than others

And that's why there is research into what sounds good to most people possible

[round lagoon]

very important if you're samsung/apple. Where they make earphone for everybody

[rotund tree]

the tips on these suck but i just bought aftermarket ones and it's fine lol

[quasi field]

For example we have a very very good idea of which of these will be preferred in listening

[cinder pecan]

i hate buying stuff where there are so many options

[deep hawk]

WHAT?

[round lagoon]

I mean, if you wanna get old school, can always just go with hd600

[quasi field]

Didn't he want closed-back?

[round lagoon]

yeah

[cinder pecan]

how do airpods perform

[round lagoon]

but my knowledge on closed is soo lacking lmao

[quasi field]

Max?

[cinder pecan]

no 3 pro

[quasi field]

I find them very good sounding aside from the upper mids which are too quiet

[quasi field]

Oh

[frozen meadow]

yo guys, what should i buy? wlmouse beast x pro or viper v4 pro

lmk if you have other good alternative variants

[bitter sapphire]

i recently got the Beast X Pro Mini and i love it

[frozen meadow]

i think one of my friends got beast x pro recently, defo should borrow for a day

[bitter sapphire]

if you choose the Beast X get it with Solid Sides

[frozen meadow]

oh yeah for sure, i dont think it would be comfortable to play with side slits

thank you!

appreciate the help

oh and one more thing

what about switches

[twilit flame]

Opticals

But im switching from beast x to viper v4

[plain schooner]

Mango finally taking gaming seriously

[rigid dagger]

does anyone have an XG27AQNGV or a Pulsar monitor

[vague sparrow]

the expert here is @bitter sapphire

[bitter sapphire]

Im not

[vague sparrow]

well you already know more than me

[patent patrol]

why subwoofer so expensive

[quasi field]

Big. Idk

[obtuse dove]

I've seen one but never actually used one

[round lagoon]

Hmm, the more I listen to my EQ for hd490, the more I realized how much I'm missing on the music with the hiss on the background

Vocal is soo clear, and perceived bass is increased

[patent patrol]

fok them physics

ill just eq my speakers to reach 20Hz

[quasi field]

Hello distortion

100% THD

[patent patrol]

i remove it with AI

Imma use secret MQA Technology and fold - unfold the files till its perfect

[rigid dagger]

ok because i wanted to know if it was possible to toggle ULMB 2 ONLY and not have to enable Pulsar, aka (ULMB 2 + G-SYNC), because I know for ULMB 2, that doesn't matter what GPU you use as long as the screen runs at 360Hz

[quasi field]

🤯

[surreal vigil]

i get a good seal with the eartips on my iems but one ear feels less secure idk what im doing wrong bruh

[crude talon]

ear surgery

nah people often don't have perfectly symetrical ears

[abstract warren]

You might need different sizes

You might be a M in 1 ear and a ML in the next

Only bad part about ear tips is you gotta get a lot to pin down your exact sizing and preference

[crude talon]

triple flange for the best fit 😎

[surreal vigil]

yeah im really annoyed about that. my right ear seems to be fine with small and mediums but my left ear is insecure with both sizes. the only difference is smalls go deeper and dont sit as proud

[vague sparrow]

I am the same I use one size in one ear, another one in the other

[quasi field]

My ear holes are also uneven

[tribal fjord]

anyone here use pmm smoothies or westlab orange?

how are they on glass?

[frigid ivy]

HRTF measurements of the HeadphoneShow guys

[quasi field]

Which one is Listener? I don't know their names

[frigid ivy]

Griffin

[obtuse dove]

Interestingggg

[quasi field]

People always say he is allergic to treble or something

[frigid ivy]

Andrew Bald
Cameron British
Caleb Asian

[obtuse dove]

Real lmao

[quasi field]

Not just bald but wears a cap indoors to hide it

Interesting how there is almost no variation below 1,5 kHz

[obtuse dove]

That kind of makes sense

The ears are physically too small to be significant at those frequencies

[quasi field]

True

[frigid ivy]

caleb seems to have the most "neutral" hearing

[quasi field]

https://tenor.com/view/elephant-african-elephant-africa-gif-4302461450163028582

What does his (the elephant) HRTF look like

[frigid ivy]

oh the pink line

or purple

not sure

[frozen patio]

My wife: Why do you have so many mice?!

Me:

[quasi field]

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Sony-Inzone-H6-Air-specs-leaked-ahead-of-official-reveal.1270884.0.html

200 gram is very good

[round lagoon]

Nice nice

[round lagoon]

Tank

[quasi field]

Takk

[round lagoon]

Hmm, I don't think any kilobuk headphone is beating my EQed hd490 unless I custom made it

unless it's a very well tuned airpods max assuming it can contour to my HRTF well, but I want it to be passive so that is disqualified.

[winged pewter]

Sadly the audio quality sucks imo

[quasi field]

It's not out yet though. Did you listen to it somewhere?

[winged pewter]

No but i did have the inzone h9 2

So if its cheaper…

[quasi field]

That doesn't mean it'll be the same sound

[winged pewter]

Im not even talking about the eq or anything, just the audio quality itself

[quasi field]

The new one has a different driver so we already know it's not the same

[winged pewter]

Is it not just a new name for the same driver?

[quasi field]

Different earpads, materials and cup shape/size also

[winged pewter]

Because the h9 2 driver is a xm6 driver specialized for gaming no?

[quasi field]

This one says it's based on the Sony MDR-MV1

[winged pewter]

Fair

[quasi field]

Still though it doesn't matter much. It's no guarantee it will be good

Will just have to wait for measurements

[round lagoon]

We shall have the measurement (hopefully from gagetery tech)

[twilit flame]

viper v4 is here

[frigid ivy]

leme know about the battery life in a couple weeks

[twilit flame]

been charging it for a good while, came in at 42% and now its 78

[lament siren]

where da pics vrooo ?

[lament siren]

woah

ts tuff

[sonic flame]

Had mine for a couple of weeks, best QOL is Synapse online, no more game manager ruining my life

[round lagoon]

https://youtu.be/cMSieWMB4OM

$550

Fuck no

Not with reference coming

[vague sparrow]

I think I found the high end iem I want after watching several reviews: the ziigaat odyssey 1

[round lagoon]

I guess if you want less 3k and more treble overall it could be a nice set

bass a bit too early, but there's nothing bad about it

[vague sparrow]

I want something not too bright and tiring

guess it could be good no?

[gray shuttle]

Have you considered the Ziigaat Arete?

https://www.ziigaat.com/products/ziigaat-x-fresh-review-arete

It's what I have

[vague sparrow]

yeah but isnt it more for gaming?

[gray shuttle]

I use them for both

[vague sparrow]

I hesitate between the odyssey and the aful explorer

[gray shuttle]

What do you have now?

[vague sparrow]

simgot ew300

[round lagoon]

I see, personally if you want something like that, I would go for jm1 tuned IEM like the daybreak

[gray shuttle]

Why not go truthear x crinacle blues? They're not too bright nor tiring

[round lagoon]

jm1 is pretty tame treble wise

[gray shuttle]

I wouldn't go red for music, but blues are neat

[vague sparrow]

the astral has a very strong peak around 15k wtf

yeah you know I am still learning about all of this

[gray shuttle]

And it won't break the bank

I think shot can agree the blues/reds are really good for their price

Unless I'm wrong?

[round lagoon]

that's just the air, some people are deaf to it, some people aren't but daybreak is always there

[round lagoon]

they're nice, but can't find blue 1 iem and blue 2 are quite high on the treble

[gray shuttle]

I have a blue 1, yeah

[round lagoon]

Red is pretty tame

[vague sparrow]

the thing is that I want something I could be happy with for at least 1 year

[gray shuttle]

Red is more for footsteps imo

[vague sparrow]

you know and not looking what I could have bought

[gray shuttle]

Gaming etc

We had this discussion often, price isn't a good metric generally

[vague sparrow]

I could wait for black friday and see price for the odyssey not in a hurry

[round lagoon]

get da crinear Daybreak

[gray shuttle]

Daybreak is cool

[vague sparrow]

ok will check

btw

how to you manage to represent the frequency response

if you want to compare

[round lagoon]

https://graph.hangout.audio/iem/5128/

go here, search for your iem, click + on the iem you wanna compare against, then boom

as long as it's on the same database you can compare them 1:1

[vague sparrow]

ok thank!!!

[gray shuttle]

https://www.ziigaat.com/products/ziigaat-x-fresh-review-arete

Oops

[vague sparrow]

This hobby is a rabbit hole tbh

as I didnt already have too many in life 😂

[gray shuttle]

https://eliseaudio.squig.link/?share=ZiiGaat_x_Fresh_Rev_Arete,CrinEar_Daybreak

[vague sparrow]

arete and daybreak are very similar no?

[gray shuttle]

I think shot is better qualified to explain the differences

Do you have thingy, uh, Vinted in your country?

[round lagoon]

No, 2-3db difference can mean 2 different IEM

[gray shuttle]

I bought my Aretes for over half off there, v1

Second hand pfc

Ofc

[round lagoon]

Aretes is more spiky and has more forward vocal compared to daybreak.

[gray shuttle]

But I have noticed v1 vs v2 is often completely different sound wise

[vague sparrow]

then I would prefer the daybreak

I mean I dont like when it is too bright

treble too detailled can disturb me

[gray shuttle]

Vinted secondhand is nice because a lot of audiophiles try out iems once and sell them again lol

[vague sparrow]

yeah I can imagine

ideally we should be able to go to a store and try and compare different iem

but I dont know any store like this where I live

[tacit linden]

What "SDR Content Brightness" in Windows are you guys running at with your OLED monitors?

[crude talon]

I turned off hdr because it was a poor experience
I cranked up that slider pretty high but then my screen looked like it was flickering

[heady crystal]

30% which translates to roughly 200 nits

[crude talon]

I can always turn on HDR with the keybind if I need it

[tacit linden]

Just so annoying swapping back and forward when watching HDR content

[crude talon]

yeah so I just keep it off now

[tacit linden]

I fucked my old monitor without even using HDR so I've been running at 0 for like 6 months now but 0 just looks so dull.

I also disabled HDR1000 and running HDR400 True Black instead, in HDR1000 mode as soon as something white is on the screen it dims the whole thing.

With HDR400 ABL is much much much less noticable.

[crude talon]

I would get horrible lag after I calibrated my monitor with hdr on

[tacit linden]

Yikes, is that with a color profile?

[crude talon]

with whatever is stock just hdr calibration tool
somehow ignoring what you see in the calibration and setting it to 990 in full screen brightness fixes it

[tacit linden]

I just did my profile 0 400 400

I do have a 0 1000 1000 profile as well that works but the ABL is just so ass I never use it

[crude talon]

cheers I just turned it off all together
works great on my macbook though 💀

[winged pewter]

Cable maybe causing issues?

[crude talon]

cable making me lose just those 10 last nits?

[winged pewter]

Nah more the lag

[crude talon]

yeah the lags gone if I drop 10 nits in the calibration utility
don’t have any other cables to test with though

[quasi field]

If it's good for music it's good for gaming. Unless what you are referring to is a purposfully bad sounding one that is meant to boost certain relevant sounds in the game such as footsteps. For that you just want to EQ. You do not want to buy separate pairs for this because it will never be as good as just EQing what you already have

Fucking the sound up (to make it highlight footsteps) can be done much more precisely and affectively by just EQing instead of wasting money on a separate pair

[vague sparrow]

Yeah I understand you can just change the eq for making footstep more pronounced with any kind of iem

[heady zenith]

didnt someone here just recently get a scarlette solo 4th gen after i recommended the scarlette solo?

[round lagoon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b23J5i4IP0

I did a freq sweep on both of my IEM and both has no peak on freq that bothers me unlike my headphone. Guess inserting sound straight to the canal helps.

[obtuse dove]

that part makes sense since that skips the shape of your entire ear.

[grand pawn]

Are there any suggestions for wired headset for gaming (especially for FPS games) that is under 300 USD ?
I'm tired of my Rog Delta, since the armoury crate update kinda keeps ruining the headset.

[round lagoon]

Headset? Why dont you go for separate headphone and mic?

Also gimme a moment

[grand pawn]

Oops sorry I didn't be specific enough, I just need a headphone I don't need a mic on it, I already have a separate mic.

[round lagoon]

hd560s or fiio ft1 pro.

If you can spare extra $100, hd490 pro is a nice choice.

Audio Technical ATH-R50x is also nice at $160

and finally ASUS ROG Kithara if you wanna keep the ROG vibe, though you might need to EQ

[grand pawn]

I see
I'll check them out
I love the one I'm using rn just for it's 24bit/96khz hi res audio
But yeah it's time to try other brands

[round lagoon]

You mean the Rog Delta? Any of the choice would be a massive upgrade ngl

Personally, hd560s would be best imo followed by the r50x.

[grand pawn]

Yeah I need that upgrade
I really appreciate your help

[candid geyser]

Finally got an 80he 🔥 🔥

[round lagoon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wA3ck9LNLek

seems okay

[frigid ivy]

Very rounded

[quasi field]

Looks really good imo

[round lagoon]

$150 on aliexpress

could be a set to replace Nova and Supermix 4 when it comes to harman tuned IEM

[quasi field]

I am a 30 dB y-axis scale enjoyer

[quasi field]

@round lagoon

https://youtu.be/Fpg0DpBCsGo

Looks meh

This is not the one I posted a few days ago btw. This is apparently a more xpensive model

[round lagoon]

This now makes me curious of the cheaper one

Also wtf is that graph

Normalising at 1k makes it super bads boosted with a strong treble lift

[quasi field]

Not good channel matching

Sony should make a MDR-Z1R type headphone again that is beautiful, handcrafted, comfortable and luxurious. Just one that actually sounds good and doesn't have a bad audio issue

That resonance seriously kills this headphone so badly. Absolutely lo-fi

[surreal basin]

Guys, is there anywhere i can buy a white wooting 60he v2 strap? Im making a white build and the black strap clashes with the build.

[solid harness]

What is that peak on 3k 💀
Wonder how it will sound
First time listening
Last time hearing

[proper vector]

There is quite a selection on AliExpress
But also on #🪛│modding_faq there are dimensions if you want to make your own

[round lagoon]

still not 10x the loudness compared to the target. So at a normal listening level it'll be a very annoying hiss and peak.

[solid harness]

Why dont they just eq their headphone to the target before selling it or atleast checking it.
Does the one who eq that has a hrtf like that like deaf on 3k?

[round lagoon]

Either they don't measure it, or they just tune by ears lmao. Could also be the way they measure isn't up to date/accurate enough.

[quasi field]

That peak is a resonance. Can't be easily fixed by just EQing

The exact placement of it depends on how you wear the headphones

[tacit linden]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1sl5xes/how_to_remove_the_melted_rubber_from_a_mouse_pad/

Looks yummy

[fringe yacht]

how the F does a mousepad even start melting (thinking about intended usage here)

[rustic mesa]

I still hate the audio world, do I buy the Kiwi Ears Astral or the HD560's 🙏

Just want good audio for comp games (CS2, Apex, Valo, etc) I have my xm4's for music

[quasi field]

What do you mean by good audio? High fidelity audio or emphasised footsteps which will sound bad otherwise?

[rustic mesa]

I assume you can kinda eq footsteps right? So i suppose high fidelity comes first

[quasi field]

You can EQ both footsteps to be louder and you can EQ low fidelity headphones to become high fidelity ones as long as not limited by non-linear distortion or destructive interferences like bad resonances (MDR-Z1R) etc.

Go HD560S if you dislike in-ears

[rustic mesa]

[rustic mesa]

I've never really had In ears before so I can't really speak on them yet

[quasi field]

Personally I never get a good fit with in-ears. But many do

Fit is essential. Just a small gap and it destroys the sound

Astral is solid. Both are good. Do recommend EQing the 560S though since it's not unlikely that you'll want some more bass out of them to make them sound higher fidelity

[obsidian frost]

Hey i wanted to ask what a good mice is? Bc soon it’s my birthday and idk what mouse to get.

Was thinking ATK, Razer, Logitech, WLMouse

[hazy fiber]

Add pulsar to the list

[obsidian frost]

Had them and had no difference to my Steelseries Arctis 1 so I returned them

[obsidian frost]

Are there mice good ?

[proper vector]

One of the best

[hazy fiber]

Yes, their crazylight series mice are good

[proper vector]

Unlike finalmouse
I mean finalmeme

[quasi field]

Which Arctis? Nova? Wireless?

[obsidian frost]

Wireless

Really old model

[quasi field]

They are very different...

[rustic mesa]

Thank you, both are good. Ill spin a wheel and let the wheel decide

[obsidian frost]

I don’t know what that means really XD

but you think it’s still good or should I’ve kept them

[frigid ivy]

Fiio jt7 have been pretty popular lately

Pretty cheap at $120

Though I think a lot of people pad swap them

[tough vine]

Can someone recommend a hotswappable mech keyboard that has a num pad under 150€ ? I looked in to keychron V5 max but reviews on amazon are kinda bad. I dont care if its wired or wireless.

[quasi field]

Why? Uncomfortable?

[frigid ivy]

Sounds change

Lemme see if I can find measurement

[quasi field]

Pad changes make the sound worse in most instances

[frigid ivy]

It's changing to another fiio pad

[frigid ivy]

Gets rid of the peak

Slightly deeper sub bass

Those pads are also fiio pads

[quasi field]

Is there a break in the seal or something due to the subbass roll-off?

[frigid ivy]

Another measurement with glasses

But not the pads

The jt7 is similar to hifiman where a gap actually increase bass a little

[obtuse dove]

Messy treble as per usual with planars at this price but otherwise it looks decent

[quasi field]

I'd just buy the HD560S personally. More xpensive doe

[frigid ivy]

Akko and Epomaker might have something you want

[obtuse dove]

Yeah

Dynamic driver still better at these prices

[frigid ivy]

My only issue with the 500 series is the plastic bit inside the cup

[quasi field]

Oh I agree. My ear was touching it

[frigid ivy]

Honestly the pc38x might be the better pick for both comfort and sound

[quasi field]

It's always better

[round lagoon]

Always has been

[quasi field]

Light
Doesn't need elaborate gear like electrostatics
Cheaper to make

[frigid ivy]

Estats do at least last way longer than planar

[quasi field]

Smaller because doesn't suffer from poor excursion like planars

[frigid ivy]

That and adding traces to the mylar is somewhat of a mechanical weak point over time

[quasi field]

Also no planar popping noises
No electrostatic crinkle or whatever and dust doesn't kill it

Dynamic drivers really are the masterrace...

[patent patrol]

noise

[frigid ivy]

I am enjoying my D1, can't imagine going any higher other than utopia and ADX7000 for dynamics

[vital gorge]

ok i need a new amp to drive my speakers.. the current one is buzzing :/ (pioneer a-333)
i want it to be smaller. preferably max €70.
2 inputs. laptop and desktop
stereo output. 8 ohm.
location NL. open to buy on aliexpress.

[rustic mesa]

It seems the wheel has chosen

Buying them in the hopes they fit

[blissful gust]

https://www.msi.com/Monitor/MAG-274QP-QD-OLED-X24

Any monitor nerds have an opinion on this?

[frigid ivy]

Oleds are oleds, unless you want specific features

[blissful gust]

Latency etc

Proper nerd shit

I don't wanna waste money again on flashy numbers

I gave up on UW, It wasn't for me when I bought and returned one plus perf cost

[proper vector]

I have 321URX, MSI are really nice

[frigid ivy]

Pretty much all brands are the same response times with oled

But asus does have a anti flicker feature

But can't really go wrong with most brands with oleds

[blissful gust]

My current monitor I'm super sensible too

It definitely has weird issues

[vague sparrow]

@round lagoon was looking for a warm, comfy, not spiky set of iem what do you think of the aful explorer?

[round lagoon]

it'll be an alright choice

[vague sparrow]

in the same style you have other suggestions?

[quasi field]

Alba treble looks cray-cray here when compared to the Explorer

[round lagoon]

it's what I have and can compare against

[vague sparrow]

a friend of mine made me try his astral for gaming in marathon it was amazing but for music (snow strippers...) way too bright for my taste

[round lagoon]

not that I know of, most IEM I see nowadays is like jm1 (astral style)

[fringe yacht]

seeing those graphs on here all the time i gotta wonder, how would one actually read them, as in what is considered good and what's considered bad? also are there graphs like that for any kind of headphones/headsets? (kinda interested in how the graph for my logitech pro x would look like) 😅

[round lagoon]

I guess there's quartet

[vague sparrow]

ok I hesistate between aful explorer and ziigaat odyssey but I am afraid the odyssey might be too spiky

[vague sparrow]

what about this bump at 8k?

[abstract warren]

Some IEMs can be very genre dependent (might be nice for EDM/Pop but kinda underwhelming for Hip hop etc or vice versa), so if music is equally important I’d target your favorite genres too.

[quasi field]

Just EQ

[round lagoon]

Not sure, most IEM I tried doesn't have that. (Or not as high as quartet)

[vague sparrow]

yeah sure but it is already what I do

[vague sparrow]

Yeah I could but I would prefer buying something that is approximately what I like from the very beginning

[quasi field]

It's a resonant peak that is common at 8 kHz when measured with these rigs

[vague sparrow]

because for sure I appear to hate when it is spiky

[vague sparrow]

oh nice to know

[quasi field]

If it sounds really good it will work with any genre

[round lagoon]

it's kinda hard, while only knowing you want warm + hating astral. You would have to do some soul searching/trying other IEM before you can nail that down based on online measurement alone.

[vague sparrow]

I will just go the the explorer I think it seems a safe bet

ideally I wish I could try the odyssey and the explorer but cant

[round lagoon]

your best bet is to try the cheapest and use that as a reference point + EQ

[vague sparrow]

yeah

the explorer seems rather flat

so some room to play with the EQ

easily

not that I am sure I really want this one

for from the frequency response it seems safe no extra

[winged pewter]

Most use the same panel

[quasi field]

It's a safe buy. It's fairly neutral

[vague sparrow]

yeah I guess it is good for experimenting a little bit

[runic tiger]

just got the razer viper v4 pro and its hella good tbh even after having the v3 pro of a long time

feels so nice and the clicks are not bad I accually prefer them over the old ones

[fringe yacht]

meanwhile i recently got the basilisk v3 35k (wired) and it feels just perfect (at least a huge step above my old logi g502 hero while having pretty much the same ergonomics) 😇

[runic tiger]

its still a good mouse though

[fringe yacht]

eh, after having 4 g502 hero mice breaking down on me after 0.5-1 year each i just gave up on anything logi besides my current headset (the pro x) idk, the thing i always loved about logi was their designs/ergonomics, but they always had the worst durability of anything i could imagine
except for the first version of the g15 keyboard, that damned thing lasted me over 10 years and even survived firework powder going up on my old desk since i fiddled around with the wrong stuff

[runic tiger]

logitech kinda going down rn especially after they dropped the new mouse it had such a massive opportunity to be the new crazy invention but no they stuck with the old bad scroll wheel bad side buttons and the 60g come on man also many people complain about the mouse and return it or get a replacement its just bad and like a beta verion of this mouse insted of the final produckt

[fringe yacht]

pfft, the tale of logi tbh, constantly having to get replacements, so whenever i got anything from them i always took an extended 5 year warranty on top, saved me a huge sum overall

[runic tiger]

i want to like logitech and i do but not as much as i want cuz of these things

[fringe yacht]

just thinking back on the g35 headsets and how their mic side earpad would fall off after a few months of usage (never dropped any of those i had) or the mice and not even lasting a year before the darned buttons start double-clicking one after another

[runic tiger]

also i forgot about the terrible skates on the new mouse

[atomic lark]

It's the same as the ones on the GPX, so nothing new

[runic tiger]

i could have been so much better

[atomic lark]

I like my Superstrike, nothing wrong with it for me

[runic tiger]

the x2?

[atomic lark]

Yes, the "new one"

[runic tiger]

so with rappid trigger

[fringe yacht]

meanwhile my only gripes with the logi pro x headset is that they're squeezing my ears quite a bit, so i actually had to over-stretch the top piece quite a bit (put it over some kitchen towel roll for 2 days straight) to even being able to use it frequently and not feeling like my ears are falling off (so more or less fixable gripe), and the fact that you can't turn the earmuffs sideways like i used to on the g35 series ones^^

[runic tiger]

ngl its the only good thing obout the new one

[runic tiger]

thats why i have IEM's

[fringe yacht]

tbh, i hate anything in ear over longer periods of time, but that probably comes mostly from me having had half a dozen serious cases of ear inflammation as a kid and in turn real sensitive ear tunnels

[runic tiger]

i have never had a ear infection or inflammation and at first i couldnt wear my IEM's for more then an hour but now after maybe 2 weeks of accually using them i can sit with them for hours and hours

[fringe yacht]

be glad about never having had any ear inflammations/infections, i can tell you, it's absolutely hellish, at least with the kind i had, basically water behind the ear drums that required me to undergo a surgery for lil drainage tubes every single time and i had that crap 6 times from the age of 2-14 when it finally stopped occuring (at 2 i actually had half my face frozen because of that crap being severe as heck and being found out rather late in the process)😮‍💨

[runic tiger]

oh hell nah i dont wanna have it

[fringe yacht]

^^

on another note, i'm having like 30% increased hearing capacity compared to the norm for both, high and low frequencies, which can be a nightmare or a blessing depending on the situation, which my doc is almost certain came from those inflammations and surgeries cycles as a kid 😂

[blissful gust]

Good buy?

[winged pewter]

Whats the price?

Cuz as far i can see it just seems like a regular qd oled 3rd gen panel with the 240hz, 27 inch 1440p

Im guessing its a more budget version with less ports and stuff

Maybe less random software bullshit go stuff too

[proper vector]

#🧸│plushies_toys message 360 pounds
I'd say it's a really good deal

[blissful gust]

Apparently it's inferior panel wise than their cheaper models? o.0

The 274QP is a 3rd gen qd-oled panel but a low grade one.

Id rather pay the extra for newer gen panel

MAG 272QPW

[proper vector]

It's 3rd gen too

[blissful gust]

Ah

Then wtf are people on about

[proper vector]

Maybe different panel manufacturer, i dunno

[blissful gust]

Yes I made this post specifically to warn people the 274QP oled panel is likely far inferior of the 271 or 273 variants. I bought it because it seems like information on this panel is all over the place and I wanted to see for myself what it is exactly just out of curiosity more than anything.

Ah they didn't necessarily mean gen

[proper vector]

272 has a TrueBlack 400 HDR certification, 274 is HDR Ready, so yeah

[winged pewter]

seems kinda expensive ngl

100 gbp more and you have a 4th gen woled, or is that out of the question for u?

[proper vector]

Text fringing or vertical stripes, your choice

[winged pewter]

I dont think ive seen many mo27q28g complaint about those issues

its was more prevelant with the MSI version apparently for grey banding

[blissful gust]

That's what I read about woled

[blissful gust]

Out of the question

I don't care that much for a new monitor

I kinda wanted 32" 1440p but they barely exist and everyone says it looks poop

[vital gorge]

32 is huge

[proper vector]

QD-OLED, because of its technology, may have a bit of text fringing on low PPI, so 1440p at 32" for example
WOLED, also because of its technology, is prone to having vertical bands

[vital gorge]

Why do you need a new screen?

[frigid ivy]

32 1440p is same ppi as 24 1080

[proper vector]

I have 32" now and yes, it is huge

[frigid ivy]

Def go 4k on 32

[blissful gust]

My current one has been going off randomly and popping for months

[vital gorge]

Oh crap

[blissful gust]

It's from like 2017

Although credit where credit is due my other monitor is from 2014 lol

Working just as good as the day I got it

[raven leaf]

I should probably get a new secondary, it has already let out a loud bang and the magic smoke yet it keeps on working

I dare not run it for too long at a time though because it gets way hotter than I ever remember it getting

[blissful gust]

Now you're scaring me 🤣

A bonus of MSI is getting Pragmata for free apparently

[vague sparrow]

I tried the pragmata demo didnt like it because I think it is a game that need to be played in coop and btw I think it is very very very well done for a small audience: a dad playing with his daughter

[proper vector]

Ah yes
If your OLED will run too hot, remember to take off the foil from the panel
Totally did not made that mistake

[vague sparrow]

It is like when you buy clothes and you forget to remove the stickers

[proper vector]

Nah, Pragmata co-op would be like Elden Ring easy mode, game would just lose its charm and gameplay uniqueness
Gunplay is intentionally slower and not as reliant on aiming, so you can also do the puzzles in the meantime
The way they did it with intensive encounters that keeps you engaged the whole time really shines in my opinion, and I had a ton of fun in demo

[blissful gust]

Nvm

Select models

I thought this was part of it

[proper vector]

But yeah, looks like 272 has quite a better panel than 274

[blissful gust]

As it was showing the code on Amazon but that's a separate thing

Huh no

Ok ye retailer only

Ok confused lol, the instructions on Amazon etc are saying just register the monitor on MSI

Anyway

I am considering this monitor regardless

I wanted mini led but they cost a lot

[crude talon]

disgusting

[vague sparrow]

Which one di you consider?

[vague sparrow]

Do you manage to solve puzzle and play at the same time?

[proper vector]

With no problem

[vague sparrow]

I love the game design and everything but I feel I miss half of the game when solving puzzle

[proper vector]

For me it's quite the contrary
Game forces you to extra focus during action segments

[blissful gust]

its a shame the 272QPW is white

but i can cope

[proper vector]

272QP is black
W in model name stands for white

[blissful gust]

costs 20 more

hahah

[proper vector]

Hol up
QP is X24, QPW is X28, X28 has better panel

MSI

[blissful gust]

my brain

https://www.very.co.uk/msi-mag-271qp-qd-oled-x28-27-inch-qd-oled-wqhd-280hz-003ms-adaptive-sync-gaming-monitor/1601212587.prd

[proper vector]

Get 272QPW

[blissful gust]

send us your card details

[proper vector]

271QP x28 and 272QPW x28 look identical though

[blissful gust]

qp was discontinued

apparently

regardless, its 20 more for black

[proper vector]

Yeah, it's an older model
QPW it is then

[blissful gust]

Still waiting on the dm

[vague sparrow]

The name of these oled monitor is way too complicated

[blissful gust]

i agree

Part of me wonders if i should just ride it out till this monitor dies lol, its on its way with popping every so often though.... However 10% off is nice.

I dont really game much

but when i do its nice to have a good experience and i love my oled laptop

@celest shard its happening again

p2s all over

[proper vector]

In case of MSI is simple
272QPW X28 is 27", 2nd gen, Q is Quad HD so 1440p, P is stand and no RGB, and W is white, and X28 so 280Hz
My 321URX X24 is 32", 1st gen, U for Ultra HD so 4k, R so stand and RGB, X so segment premium with quick refresh, and X24 so 240Hz

Beats whatever Asus is doing

[quasi field]

https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/1slmhem/debate_can_equalization_make_all_headphones_sound/

Waiting for Oratory to pop in here

Nvm just deleted by a mod

[frigid ivy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0GmHNW3JAI

dunno if this was posted before

but pretty cool

[bitter sapphire]

We don’t talk about that

[tacit linden]

I miss the good times, when there was 1 ROG Swift and that's it.

[patent patrol]

speakers kinda nice when u in a house alone

but other then that usecase

idk

[tacit linden]

I use speakers all the time unless I also voicechat.

[patent patrol]

i dont wanna annoy the other humans

[tacit linden]

They are just NPCs

[patent patrol]

i need good reputation stat

for later missions

[vital gorge]

I'm happy I connected. My speakers again. It's a much more gentle sound

[sonic halo]

mousepad recommendations?

[crude talon]

artisan

[winged pewter]

Mousepads are recommended yea

[sonic halo]

[tacit linden]

Artisan good but if you want decent for cheap the 6mm thick SteelSeries QCK Heavy is really good, I used that for over 10 years.

[sonic halo]

is glasspads any good

[tacit linden]

I've used hard plastic and glass pads in the past, didn't like it that much.

Preference thing, I think you'd have to try it out to see if you like it or not.

It's loud and to me feels very floaty, very low resistance and I prefer some drag.

[knotty pagoda]

qck heavy is relatively difficult to find consistently nowadays

though it is not officially discontinued

the new version (steelseries performance balance) is decent if you want something easily accessible

@sonic halo depends a bit what game you play

Tac shooters (like cs), people tend to prefer control/slower pads -> type99 artisan is probably the most extreme example

But the artisan guide can help https://artisan-jp.com/global/selection-guide

when it comes to glasspad, they're fast. Even the ones who brand themselves as control (like the CR005 from wallhack) is much faster than a cloth pad - it's an acquired taste and usually fits better for people who play pretty high pace games like OW or Apex maybe

[vague sparrow]

Honestly guys do you think there too many tech reviewer that you cannot start your own channel?

[junior thicket]

Down to earth, if your goal is to make a ton of views and money, yes. If you want to do it for fun and because you like creating content, you shouldnt worry about it. Just go ahead and post whatever. :)

[deep hawk]

If your goal is to get a ton of views and make a bunch of money, you will fail. Not because of oversaturation but because your viewers will not be engaged.

If your goal is to make and share content because you find it fun, interesting, and novel, then your viewers will internalize that, too.

[vague sparrow]

I just mean I just wonder if I would have something valuable to bring

Doing review is not exactly something where there is a lot of room for doing things really differently than other channels

[sonic flame]

The tech space is quite filled but mostly it’s people reviewing stuff most people aren’t ever going to buy.

Simple reviews for products the average 9-5 human can buy is probably a good place to start.

[vague sparrow]

Maybe a review channel for aliexpress product

[blissful gust]

@proper vector I missed the 10% offer

The only option is this now q-q, i guess i can still do it.

kinda wnted to just buy it tbh xD

but like 10% is 10%

or maybe its a sign

[frozen patio]

Alright for all you IEM maxxers, I got myself a cheap pair to try and so far I actually really like it. I gotta figure out wtf I'm gonna do for head tracking when I play certain shit but otherwise thumbs up all round. I got the EW200s cos they were cheap and had pretty good reviews from what I could see. Do I need to tweak anything regarding EQ and shit like that/download anything etc or nah?

[round lagoon]

So you want an EQ that increases the separation and clarity?

It's already pretty good, unless you feel like it's missing something, you don't need to change anything about the IEM

[frozen patio]

Nah it sounds pretty good, just wanted to know if there was anything else I could do/needed to do etc. I'll run it as is. Nice one 👍

[terse ferry]

guys whats your grayscale without banding on your oleds?

[bitter sapphire]

90% i think

[terse ferry]

i got perfect screen

100% grayscale no banding

[bitter sapphire]

I don’t know tho

Maybe im fine till 95% but its mot like i really care about it

[terse ferry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XHeUH1aY6E

[bitter sapphire]

Which screen ?

[bitter sapphire]

Sure im gonna watch it from my phone lmao

[terse ferry]

msi 237qp

[terse ferry]

well phones are also oleds

you can findout if your amoled has burn in too if you watch it on phone

@bitter sapphire if you get banding at 95% means basicly it is as best it can get on your unit

[bitter sapphire]

Okay yeah yours is a QD-oled

Mine is WOLED

[terse ferry]

banding happends on are oleds

[bitter sapphire]

But less on QD-oled

But like i rarely care about this

[terse ferry]

it look fine

tho try at 95% grayscale in vidd

[bitter sapphire]

Thats one to one color ratio in paint

[terse ferry]

because i do not know if it is compression error or i see it

ye it is very little bit visiblr

[bitter sapphire]

I do have vertical bindings

[terse ferry]

ye i talk about it

like here is most visible

tho it is not that annoying

[bitter sapphire]

Its only visible if i open a new tab/ file explorer

[terse ferry]

propably it is not visible inn normal use

which gen woled?

[bitter sapphire]

4th

[terse ferry]

i have third gen qd

[bitter sapphire]

I have the Glossy Asus oled

[terse ferry]

mine is semi matte

[bitter sapphire]

Yeah mine is full glossy and i love it

https://rog.asus.com/monitors/27-to-31-5-inches/rog-strix-oled-xg27aqwmg/

Springy johners has the same monitor as me

[terse ferry]

i got the same calslock have

wonder whats theirs greyscale %

[bitter sapphire]

You got a 4k one

[terse ferry]

no 1440p

@bitter sapphire i would buy 500hz variant but my pc is not capable of giving 500 fps in any fps

[bitter sapphire]

Cals got this MSI MPG 321URX

im almost at 400 hours in usage

[terse ferry]

oh ur right

i have 270

@bitter sapphire tho i leave my oled for a night so it does pixel cleaning when i sleep

[tulip tide]

my oled is at 3069 hours

[heady crystal]

No, I won't go on the femboy website.

[terse ferry]

You got video instead if u want

[vague sparrow]

guys I have a 5600x I have seen amd is going to sell again the 5800x3D do you think it is worth it and what price max should I put if I get it?

I am not sure it is worth it

maybe at 150 euros max

OK apparently worth it at 1440p, not worth it at 4K

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmjSvUg-Dwk

[winged pewter]

its still worth it at 4k

just for the 1% lows probably

[vague sparrow]

yeah true

now depend on the price

[winged pewter]

even if they sell it at 400$ its worth it

unless you plan to buy am5

[vague sparrow]

nah

[winged pewter]

yea it is

[vague sparrow]

I prefer saving for am5 then

[winged pewter]

ok but ur asking if its worth it

and it is

[vague sparrow]

for 400 euros not sure

for 150 euros yes

400 euros is insane for a processor that is already 4 years old

[winged pewter]

might be insane, but still worth it

especially if you have good ddr4 ram already

[vague sparrow]

I have kingston furry

[winged pewter]

💀

[vague sparrow]

32 gb

[winged pewter]

how do ppl fall for that 😭

[vital gorge]

Kingston furry?

[blissful gust]

1% lows are a game changer

[violet summit]

Can someone identify my friends gpu it says geforce rtx in green?

[winged pewter]

gonna neede a better pic than that

[astral musk]

Green text? 1000 series or older if I had to guess.

[winged pewter]

not if it says rtx

[astral musk]

Oh good point.

[winged pewter]

im thinking an OEM 20xx series card

[astral musk]

Read the stickers?

[winged pewter]

from a prebuilt, so probably like alienware, or omen etc

[astral musk]

Yeah very likely. My 3080 from PNY/HP was very barebones.

[violet summit]

The problem is my friend doesnt know anything about computers

[astral musk]

Right - So take photos of the stickers on it. That'll let us identify the model from the text. 😄

[violet summit]

Im at home right now so i cant but the pin layout (i think) is 8 and 6

[atomic lark]

That doesn’t provide much info

[winged pewter]

Tell him to take a better picture lol

I dont think u need to know anything about PCs to see that this is a non useful picture

hey guys what bird is this 🤪

[violet summit]

Is it a swan?

[astral musk]

You joke. But I bet there's someone out there who can tell you exactly what kind of bird, it's age and sex. And what it ate to make the feathers have that particular hue

[blissful gust]

Definitely a swan

[deep hawk]

An albino pidgeon

[winged pewter]

its actually an eagle I think lol

[winged pewter]

yeah for sure 😭 🤣

[violet summit]

Aw dang it

[winged pewter]

https://pittsburghquarterly.com/articles/what-was-that-white-bird/ holy moly this website is slow

[astral musk]

So an albino hawk.

[winged pewter]

I still want to know what gpu it is though

[blissful gust]

Told you it wasn't a swan

[winged pewter]

📸

I think I found it actually

the gpu

but trying to find one with green lettering

but the shroud seems close to identical

[raven leaf]

Has the sticker(s) been taken off or something?

[atomic lark]

Would not fit the "but the pin layout (i think) is 8 and 6" though

[violet summit]

I already saw that too and the top is black

[winged pewter]

it is though

[violet summit]

I think

[violet summit]

What gpu is that

[winged pewter]

same one

[violet summit]

Is that the rtx 3060 oem

[atomic lark]

In the original photo the PCB doesn't look very obviously green though

[winged pewter]

cuz it wouldnt be with the quality of that img

[violet summit]

It kinda looks like that but the text is in green

[winged pewter]

yeah thats what im saying

🤣

[atomic lark]

Isn't to the left outside the photo a cutout showing the PCB? your other pictures hint at that

[astral musk]

Me still waiting for some text to confirm the model

[winged pewter]

yeah but on the initial pic where do you see the pcb clearly?

[atomic lark]

That's why I'm implying it's not the same

[winged pewter]

what

[atomic lark]

The backplate is different

[winged pewter]

you mean the backplate with ram on it?

[atomic lark]

Yeah, either that PCB is black or there's no cutout

[winged pewter]

its probably still dell but 40 series then if its black pcb

[vague sparrow]

yes

[vague sparrow]

you really think it is worth it?

[vital gorge]

furry

[vague sparrow]

I might end up withj a 4k monitor so dont sure a 5800x3D bring more than a 5600x

[vague sparrow]

oh ok well I am not

[blissful gust]

Yes

[bitter sapphire]

The CPU upgrade is gonna worth it in the long run

[blissful gust]

What's your GPU

[vague sparrow]

9070xt

[blissful gust]

Ah, poor 5600x crying

I have a 9070xt on its way actually! Not mine though 🙁

[vague sparrow]

yeah on marathon the cpu is at 100% always

[blissful gust]

Building a new system for my cousins friend

[vague sparrow]

steal it

[blissful gust]

I do not miss my 5600x, it got me through a lot but it was showing its age painfully

[vague sparrow]

I found a good deal for black friday 590 euros

[blissful gust]

I felt like my GPU gained a second life after getting my 9800x3d

[vague sparrow]

well 9800x3d is quite an upgrade

[winged pewter]

is the 9070xt even good for 4k?

I guess it depends on the games

but I doubt u can run most games maxed out

[vague sparrow]

That is what I wonder apparently yes with fsr

yeah I wont be able to

[winged pewter]

I cant even run most games maxed out at like 150+ fps with a 5090

on 1440p

with dlss

[vague sparrow]

but I want an oled and I dont feel like getting another 27

[frigid ivy]

https://youtu.be/aYYVz4q-Rt8?si=RZx2c974vGSDBag5

[quasi field]

I use my 5070 for 4k gaming

[frigid ivy]

Not until a 5090 you see a difference between a 5600 and 5800x3d at 4k

[winged pewter]

you do lol

[proper vector]

9070XT good for 4k gaming
Get 32" 4k OLED and be happy

[blissful gust]

I genuinely wouldn't get 4k

Personally

[winged pewter]

20 fps more on the lows

[vague sparrow]

issue is I dont want another 27

[frigid ivy]

At 4k

[blissful gust]

I care more about frames than I do looks and 1440p is a sweet spot

[blissful gust]

I feel you there

[blissful gust]

It's about the lows man

[vague sparrow]

yeah

[blissful gust]

And dips

And stuttering

[vital gorge]

I want 5k,for that crisp text

[vague sparrow]

honestly it will depend on the price of the 5800x3d

[blissful gust]

Also 4k TBF

[proper vector]

9070XT is very close to XTX in newish games
And it gets 4k60 with no problem

[blissful gust]

I promise

[vague sparrow]

not sure if the upgrade is worth

[blissful gust]

What games?

[winged pewter]

thats 1% low

not even 0.1% low

[blissful gust]

I would have gotten a 5080x3d in a heart beat

But none available

[blissful gust]

What games

[vague sparrow]

amd wil sell them again

[blissful gust]

Do you know?

[winged pewter]

kingdom 4k

[blissful gust]

Because I promise it makes a huge difference, I feel like benchmarks are not good at showing stutter and drops etc

[vague sparrow]

I just played again the pragmata demo I am almost ready to get the full game

[blissful gust]

My 3080 feels new again in modern games

[blissful gust]

Helpful :p

Kingdom?

[winged pewter]

ya

only 1 kingdom game xD

they should start testing with 0.1% lows too

[fringe yacht]

any thoughts on my desk?
built the entire thing myself and finally managed to equip it completely, just gotta think about a solution to that cable salad behind the monitor and find a new spot for that LTE router that's sitting on top of the tower for now 😅

[vital gorge]

Put pc in floor for more desk space

And stop vaping

Other than that, looks good!

[fringe yacht]

i prefer having my pc on top actually, window being next to the main air intake really helps when kicking a 3090ti with something heavy plus it helps blocking out the morning/early noon sun xD

[heady zenith]

id be too worried about the corner not being supported

[vital gorge]

Curtains

[fringe yacht]

you mean this corner?

as i said, i've built the whole thing myself so yea, gotta make it sturdy and in my case i only consider something sturdy when i can plant my 90KG ass on it without it folding xD

[vague sparrow]

If the pc was pc on the floor you would appreciate the desk space

[atomic lark]

That looks uncomfortable to reach for that thermostatic radiator valve, have you considered a digital one if you're blocking it with a desk?

[fringe yacht]

that heater is actually off grid and just still in place because we're kinda afraid of taking it off and work on the plumbing of that stuff (don't wanna risk a leakage)

or well, off grid is probably a wrong wording and more like we don't use our central heating at all since it's simply not needed anyways, the worst temps we had during the winter was about 14°C indoors in the most remote rooms without an oven, otherwise we fire up an oven once and have warm interior for 3-4 days in every adjacent room

easy calculation, having the central heating running would cost us about 100€ a month or more, while the wood we needed throughout the entire autumn and winter was only about 150€ or roughly 25-30€ a month

[winged pewter]

My vote would also be on the desktop on the ground

[fringe yacht]

would take away foot space tho (on top of the above given reasons) 😅

[winged pewter]

You can hang it from your desk

[fringe yacht]

i mean there's not just the foot space but also the cooling with the window for when i'm really kicking my gpu etc^^

[winged pewter]

why would you kick your gpu

[fringe yacht]

meaning playing some high demanding stuffs and actually making it work full time instead of mostly chilling on low demanding games

[winged pewter]

maybe time for a repaste?

or a better case

[fringe yacht]

it's never reaching any concerning temps, like 70-75 tops but if i can get that down to 55-60 then that's a bonus in my book

[winged pewter]

but why if u dont overclock anyways

same amount of heat will be ejected into your room

[fringe yacht]

it's more about a longer lifespan of the gpu, simply treating it the best i can and all 😄

considering i got an offer for about 2-3 times it's price from some freak that helped me with the undervolting stuffs just because it remains completely stable at below 40% undervolting, don't really understand the specific reasons but that encounter was more than enough for me to take extra care of it, considering it cost me more than any other whole PC i ever built before and that offer basically topping all my PCs combined 😅

[winged pewter]

damn lowkey stupid to not sell it for 3x the price lmao

you'd be sitting on a 5090 then now

[ivory tiger]

My 2nd screen just started showing artifacts out of the blue

That's so annoying

Doesn't even get fixed with force

[fringe yacht]

it was 2,5 years ago at this point so the 50xx series wasn't even out and the upper 40xx series wasn't exactly fireproof, so yea...
also why would i need a 5090 when a 3090ti is still an insanely strong card, at least for what i'm using it most of the time

[terse ferry]

@proper vector whats your greyscale score then

[ivory tiger]

I think I am in need of a new screen, life sucks with only one monitor

[bitter sapphire]

True

[ivory tiger]

any OLED 1440p 27" recommendations?

@bitter sapphire

[bitter sapphire]

Price range ?

[ivory tiger]

would prefer the cheaper range

don't wanna necessarily spend over 400 eur on a monitor

[bitter sapphire]

What refresh rate ?

240hz is enough right ?

[ivory tiger]

yea def

[proper vector]

What am I supposed to see the difference with?

[bitter sapphire]

https://www.gigabyte.com/Monitor/MO27Q28G

[terse ferry]

Something like that

Like lines on high greyscale %

If you do not have it

You got good rng

[bitter sapphire]

Thats pretty bad RNG

[ivory tiger]

almost 600

[terse ferry]

Well i used some pic from reddit showing banding

@proper vector are you using srgb mode?

[ivory tiger]

I mean it's almost 600 eur for me

[terse ferry]

I have 273qpx24

It quite nice

[ivory tiger]

somehow I don't feel like getting a new MSI after my MSI broke out of the blue

[terse ferry]

Well I like msi

I have their mobo

[ivory tiger]

I own a MSI mobo too, somehow after this happened i do not know if I wanna get a new MSI monitor

[terse ferry]

Well mine works great

But mine is using intel chipset

[ivory tiger]

@bitter sapphire is that the monitor you own, or which oled did you got again?

I forgor

[bitter sapphire]

https://rog.asus.com/monitors/27-to-31-5-inches/rog-strix-oled-xg27aqwmg/

I got it for 650€

But thats with Hungarian Taxes

Without that it was 450€

[ivory tiger]

could get it for almost the same price as the gigabyte one

both are around 500 for me

well it's the weekend anyways now, so I got some time to think about it

[bitter sapphire]

The asus one is W-Oled tho

Just like the giga one

I didn’t say anything

[ivory tiger]

ehh, I will collect some recommendations

[proper vector]

90%

95%

[terse ferry]

@proper vector looks like you also got good qc panel

[ivory tiger]

calsy, you happen to have some monitor recommendation?

[proper vector]

I'm happy with my 321URX, but it's 32" 4k
I'd suggest going to RTINGS, but they paywalled everything

[bitter sapphire]

I hate that

[ivory tiger]

I might consider a 32" if I get a bigger desk

[proper vector]

humu?

[bitter sapphire]

You don’t use FreeSync

[heady crystal]

I prefer PaidSync

[terse ferry]

Set srgb mode

Then test greyscale

@proper vector because user uses oversaturated colours

[proper vector]

95% sRBG and no HDR

[terse ferry]

Looks fine

Then propably your panel is good as mine

[bitter sapphire]

I should try it with sRGB as well

[terse ferry]

Well i use all my displays in srgb

I like as accurate as possible colours

[raven leaf]

Yeah if youse not doing HDR then that is probably the choice

[proper vector]

I don't see any pros to GSync/Freesync honestly
I just cap the game to closest 60/120/240 fps, whichever is most stable

[terse ferry]

Most games i play do not have good hdr

Tho i really like better black colour

@raven leaf tho i would use srgb with hdr anyway

I do not like oversaturated colours

[ivory tiger]

actually, any idea why monitor starts to go full artifact mode out of the blue?
like I blinked and that fakker was just artifacts

[terse ferry]

Well...

Say good bye to your gpu

[ivory tiger]

note: it's monitor related

[terse ferry]

[ivory tiger]

it artifacts without being plugged in so..

[winged pewter]

what the link to test it?

[terse ferry]

Plug into what

[ivory tiger]

only plugged into power

[terse ferry]

Do you want youtube version or calslock website version

[bitter sapphire]

Gpu’s hole

[winged pewter]

youtube isnt that great right

[bitter sapphire]

Its pinned

[crude talon]

my monitor came set to dcip3 and it looks so disgusting 😭

[bitter sapphire]

[winged pewter]

do I click 95% first

or grey first

[proper vector]

Grey is 50%

[winged pewter]

dont see any banding personally

[ivory tiger]

I don't have much knowledge about oleds
anything I should check when looking for one? also what oled panel should I go with

[winged pewter]

what do u want from oled

do u want to use it in a bright room with sunshine?

probably matte

u a rat in the dark?
glossy

[bitter sapphire]

Rat lifestyle is best