🌐│pc_gear

[quasi field]

I got the arrows wrong

[proper vector]

[bitter sapphire]

i checked 4k displays prices

they are expensive

[winged pewter]

Then get 1440p

[bitter sapphire]

gonna stick to 1440p

[crude talon]

I like my monitor but it does look pixely

[winged pewter]

1080p?

[crude talon]

especially text but it might be a bit worse because of the fringing too

[winged pewter]

Or 720p?

[crude talon]

27” 1440p

[winged pewter]

How is it pixelly then unless you have some insane zoomed in 20/20 eyeballs

[crude talon]

most people are 20/20

20/20 is average vision

maybe I sit a bit closer than most but I don’t think I’m super close

[silver topaz]

The final PC parts are out for delivery

[astral musk]

[twilit flame]

Intercepting it, im hungry

[obtuse dove]

QD-OLED < 4th gen WOLED < RGB Stripe < Tandem OLED

[heady crystal]

@obtuse dove do you have the 11" or 13" iPad Pro?

[obtuse dove]

13 inch iPad Pro

M4

[heady crystal]

How often are you using it handheld?

[obtuse dove]

Very

LMAO

[heady crystal]

Did you also buy the Apple Pencil and/or keyboard cover thing?

[obtuse dove]

Apple Pencil and just a standard folio bumper case from Amazon

No keyboard case since I have a MacBook for that LMAO

[quasi field]

Give me RGB stripe tandem sure

But I don't want the woled tandems

[obtuse dove]

Tandem WOLED is already sufficient in my opinion? esp since they already use a striped sub pixel layout?

[quasi field]

The white subpixel is why I don't want it

[obtuse dove]

why is that an issue?

[quasi field]

Still inferior rendering, and the white subpixel boosting dilutes the colours

[obtuse dove]

I guess, but that is more or less been solved with the 4th gen Tandem WOLEDs

since they boosted the color volume significantly of the base white pixels and improving brightness by not using a MLA

I am curious to see how they will comabt burn-in on the RGB stripe OLEDs

since the wacky sub-pixel layouts of traditional RGB OLEDs is to combat the affects of burn-in

[gaunt flax]

Probably another 2 years out from comparable rgb stripe oled

[quasi field]

It shouldn't matter outside of HDR I don't think. Unless I'm mistaken I remember that the LG C2 I had didn't use the white subpixel to boost brightness beyond a certain threshold. So below a certain brightness it won't make a difference afaik

[heady crystal]

I'm in the waiting room for the LG G series TVs to run at 4K 240Hz with full bandwidth HDMI 2.2

[quasi field]

But I might misremember

[heady crystal]

Soon™

[gaunt flax]

I have zero regrets with my monitor though. will main it for at least 5+ years I think

At some point we’re going to hit 1000hz oled 1440p and then maybe it’ll be time to upgrade again

[obtuse dove]

it does matter outside of HDR but assuming they somehow solved the blue subpixel brightness issue then I can see RGB stripe becoming a thing

because if you make the blue sub-pixel smaller you need to drive it harder and brighter which would cause it to burn in faster than the red and green OLEDs

[heady crystal]

My story gamer ass waiting for high(er) refresh rate TVs. Need that big screen gaming experience. The G5 does 4K 165Hz in PC mode though which is pretty cool.

[twilit flame]

We need crOLEDs, crunchy oleds

[twilit flame]

G5 is very sexy as someone who uses one

[quasi field]

woled feels like such a bandaid technology

But QD also has unfortunate flaws atm

[heady crystal]

My friend has the 65” G5 + full Sonos Arc Ultra setup. I am very jealous.

[gaunt flax]

Honestly my trigger was my old monitor wasn’t accurate enough in srgb mode so I had to buy a new monitor for editing anyway

And I always subscribe to buy once cry once, so the 540hz it is

[twilit flame]

How good is that sound?

[gaunt flax]

It has made me jump back into fps games again though because motion clarity is pretty nuts in comp fps

[twilit flame]

I think the TV speakers are decent

[heady crystal]

Very darn good. Even the Arc Ultra alone is a solid option.

[twilit flame]

Might look into it

[heady crystal]

The Sub 4 is completely overkill for a lot of setups.

A pair of Era 300 speakers for rear surround is nice though.

[twilit flame]

Gonna have to wait a while before i buy any more upgrades though lmao

Tv is gonna last me a loooong while though

[heady crystal]

I do wish webOS wasn’t littered with adverts.

Easier to just use an Apple TV for tvOS.

IMHO

[twilit flame]

Yeah, i kinda keep mine off the wifi, i use my series x for my media anyway

[heady crystal]

I connect mine for firmware updates. Recently gotten webOS 25 on my C2.

[proper vector]

Android box
You can install YouTube with no ads, peak

[obtuse dove]

I never found one that didn't stutter every time you scroll though

[heady crystal]

tvOS for ecosystem magic

[obtuse dove]

Trueee, pairs with my AirPods without me even having to do anything

I'm can just jump straight into it

And then when I get a call it shows up on the TV screen, I pick up my phone, and my AirPods automatically hand off connection to my phone

It's actually so nice

And it automatically pauses my movie

[heady crystal]

Although I did unplug mine a few weeks back to use my 4K BR player. Not enough plugs… or HDMI cables connected.

[twilit flame]

That’s the only time i connect it

Fits stay updated

[proper vector]

It's a TV
I can understand PC-phone, but it's just a TV, start a movie with remote and done
Lack of ads is best for me

[heady crystal]

Yes, but it’s an Apple experience on my TV.

It Just Works™

[proper vector]

You don't need Apple ecosystem to launch Netflix app

[heady crystal]

But I do

[proper vector]

[crisp nimbus]

Anybody know some good mousepads? My mousepad now is too rough and gritty for my mouse so I’m looking for something smooth

[rain turret]

Yeah, wholeheartedly recommend Artisan

[hazy fiber]

Artisan Raiden, silky smooth and fast

[crisp nimbus]

Ty 🫡

[crisp nimbus]

Ty 🫡

[obtuse dove]

Artisan pads

look into the different types

pick the one that you would like most

[crude talon]

don't get a hien if you want smooth

[crisp nimbus]

Okay

[hazy fiber]

Not all Artisan mousepads are smooth, this might help you.

[crisp nimbus]

The skates on the x2 crazy light just suck on control pads

[crisp nimbus]

Thank you very much

[hazy fiber]

x2 CL skates suck in general, swap them out

[obtuse dove]

yeah swap them out for dots

[crisp nimbus]

Which would u recommend

[obtuse dove]

4 dots is plenty for the X2CL

[obtuse dove]

tiger ice V2 dots

perfectly fine PTFE dots

[hazy fiber]

Nah, get full size Jade/Magic Ice/Tiger Ice skates

I don't like dots on cloth personally

[obtuse dove]

I like it

[crisp nimbus]

Ty

Me personally I like full skates as well

But just me personally

[obtuse dove]

corepad is also good

[hazy fiber]

Full skates always feel better on cloth for me

[crisp nimbus]

Ok thanks

I’ll look into all of them

[crude talon]

artisan dots work but regular 6.5mm dots are not nice on cloth, fullsize skates are nice

[obtuse dove]

or those crazy donut skates

[rain turret]

Key 83 Soft

[obtuse dove]

like the X-Raypad donuts

[crude talon]

yeah donuts could be better than dots
but both donuts and artisan p8 skates don't fit in all skate cutouts

[crisp nimbus]

These r skates right

[rain turret]

Ohh no sorry no

Thought that was still about pads

[obtuse dove]

should fit fine on the X2CL skate cutouts

[crisp nimbus]

Oh lmao Allg I still need recommendations on pads regardless

[crude talon]

ki83 has a bit off a rough texture but it didn't bother me at all, not sure what you had before that had so much texture

[crisp nimbus]

Oh what I have right now?

[rain turret]

That's the one i would recommend for a completely in the middle balance, if not, then Zero with MID firmness.
But you can also just individually read for each of these models and then their firmnesses, what they are for, and just choose the one that suits you most.

[crisp nimbus]

I’ll send a picture rn

It’s a higround mousepad

[crisp nimbus]

🫡

artisan doesnt have white mousepads?

[hazy fiber]

No

[crisp nimbus]

damn

[rain turret]

I went with the dead center option for first, but then i really liked what the Zero promises, and some friends reinforced me with it.
Just couldn't order the Zero yet cause they banned Buyee.

[obtuse dove]

I would strongly advise against white mousepads, they become really ugly really quickly

[hazy fiber]

If you don't mind speed pads, get Raiden soft. It's so smooth

[crisp nimbus]

ye thats the one im looking at the most

[hazy fiber]

Other Artisan mousepads aren't as smooth

[crisp nimbus]

i was just asking because i have a full white setup

[obtuse dove]

ah, honestly black or a bright red or orange would fit nicely in a white setup

[quasi field]

Focus, M

[crisp nimbus]

ye im most likely just gonna go for a black one

the raiden should be good for valorant right

[obtuse dove]

unless its a hard pad, if its a hard pad then white is ok, but cloth pads I would avoid white as much as possible

[rain turret]

Some contrast doesn't hurt

[crisp nimbus]

ye aimma go with black fs

[rain turret]

I have a mostly white PC, but there are some black components and the pad now

[crisp nimbus]

wwwwwwW

nah my pc is completely white

i can show if yall want no flex

[rain turret]

I'm just saying a black pad won't destroy that xD

[crisp nimbus]

ye it will look fine

[hazy fiber]

Might be fast for Val, but you can get used to it

[crisp nimbus]

ye i was thinking that but ill get used to it

what i might do lowkey

is get new skates, if it still feeds weird with this mousepad i just get a new mousepad

[sacred saffron]

Do you guys think wooting will make a 75% keyboard in the near future? Cuz I really want a 75 but i dont really know any good ones

[bitter sapphire]

80HE is literally a 75% board

sorry its 77.5% board

[sacred saffron]

Its not tho but yeah

[bitter sapphire]

<@&1098943457654997093> name

[sacred saffron]

The button placement is pretty weird

Oops

Good now?

[jovial moth]

…

[sacred saffron]

But honestly the 80he right side button placement for me atleast is pretty odd tbh

[sweet latch]

just one click and its there again twice 😭

[bitter sapphire]

its perfectly usable

[sacred saffron]

Yee

[crisp nimbus]

😭

[obtuse dove]

it is slightly weird, but not unusable

[sacred saffron]

True

Im deciding between building myself a custom keyboard or just buy a wooting

[sweet latch]

how much does this matter

[sweet latch]

buy a wooting

[obtuse dove]

that more comes down to if you care about the features of Hall effect

[crisp nimbus]

bro this shipping is crazy

8 dollars for skates is fine then 30 dollars for shipping 💀

[dusk crag]

are you on firefox?

[obtuse dove]

I usually get my skates from amazon or LGG in the states

[sweet latch]

yes

[dusk crag]

yeah you gotta download the app then

[crisp nimbus]

yea imma take a look on amazon rn

[dusk crag]

firefox will probably never be supported

[rain turret]

FlexCord new batch up for preorder, yay

[wheat lichen]

might hold off buying the audeze maxwells atm

[sweet latch]

dang 💔

[sacred saffron]

I mean i dont really know if ill use them but i play cs2 mostly rn so idk 🤷

[dusk crag]

i mean its very lightweight tbh

and doesn t even run in the background

[quasi field]

Maxwell 2?

Better be at least 100 gram lighter

[dusk crag]

or you can download chrome

or use edge

[wheat lichen]

ye v2

[obtuse dove]

what percentage of your usage is typing and what percentage is gaming?

[sacred saffron]

Mostly 70 gaming

[sweet latch]

i mean ill probably donwload the app cuz then it would be just chrome or edge that ill use for wootility

[proper vector]

Firefox won't work because they (Mozilla) are stubborn to not support WebHID
Despite putting eveything anyway to they borwsers nowadays

[obtuse dove]

i'd get the wooting then

[quasi field]

Shipping that soon and yet nothing is known about it?

I can't find any information about it

[dusk crag]

yeah and you can also update the keyboard firmware with the app too

[crisp nimbus]

i cant find any ful length skates on amazon

[jovial moth]

Anyone using jade dots on a artisan raiden?

[crisp nimbus]

for my mouse

[sacred saffron]

I want to upgrade my setup but rn the big market of evrything confuses me allot. I recently ordered myself a ninjutso ten so yeah im trying to get a clean and greatly usable setup

[hazy fiber]

Order them from AliExpress

[sweet latch]

if the app is just wootility and the led strip things then its not a problem

[obtuse dove]

yeah a wooting is a very nice keyboard for gaming

[wheat lichen]

apparently customers got a email from audeze

[sacred saffron]

Thanks for the help

[obtuse dove]

aye!

[dusk crag]

the app is just an exe and if you want you can download the background service from the settings tab which is needed if you want like real time volume update on the 80he led strip

[crisp nimbus]

i dont see any there as well

[sweet latch]

do you know if the app has digital signature or nah

[dusk crag]

probably does, idk tbh

[wheat lichen]

@quasi field

[dusk crag]

if you wanna be sure download it from https://wooting.io/wootility

also #📰│wootility_updates

[sweet latch]

thanks

[hazy fiber]

Magic Ice for X2 Crazylight should be available on Ali

[crude talon]

xraypad sells skates on ali too, don't know why they wouldn't be on there

[crisp nimbus]

these the only ones i found

these r it im guessing right

[hazy fiber]

Yes, that

[quasi field]

So information on the day of shipping

Hoping there are review units sent out for measurement at least

[crisp nimbus]

ok thanks

[rain turret]

pog

[wheat lichen]

i guess they waiting until the embargo is lifted on the 5th, i am kinda curious what the price would be

[quasi field]

If it's a sequel I'm expecting the same price or a very modest price increase of $50 or something

[wheat lichen]

it kinda sucks in the EU we need to pay more 🙁

[quasi field]

Imagine living in the EU

[wheat lichen]

[quasi field]

There are some issues they need to fix for 2 for it to interest me

[wheat lichen]

for how much are the v1's going for rn in the US?

[quasi field]

Sidetone is broken on Maxwell 1. It makes a bad static noise

[quasi field]

$300 maybe. I don't know

[wheat lichen]

dam thats reasonable

here they going for anywhere between 350 all the way up to 400+

so in dollars thats like $400 all the way up too $500+

[crisp nimbus]

im between the artisan raiden and the zero

or going with a xxl mousepad from the mousepad company or sumthing

[rain turret]

Night and day diff, i came from 900x400 XXLs without caring much for the surface, but Artisans are absolutely quality in comparison.
Also getting used to the fact that i don't need to have such a big pad for no reason which only gets dirty but not used much has been nice.
Even Artisan XL is too big, like 60% of the surface edges i don't use. L should be big enough.
For the keyboard i just went with a keebmat, it's practical for sound and is limited to the size of the keyboard without having to take up extra space, lets me move it around if i need space quickly.

[crisp nimbus]

who here has a artisan zero

[crude talon]

I have an xsoft zero

[crisp nimbus]

when u move ur mouse across the mousepad , do you feel the grit ?

or is it smooth

[crude talon]

nah it's pretty smooth I'd say, the surface grabs sleeves a lot though

[crisp nimbus]

okay

icl i feel like what im feeling with mine is more of a skate issue than a mousepad issue

[rain turret]

Soft ones are all pretty smooth for each model

[crisp nimbus]

but ty for that im leaning more towards the zero

yea i might go with the zero xsoft

[hazy fiber]

Get soft

[crisp nimbus]

why not xsoft

[hazy fiber]

xsoft is too soft

soft is a sweet spot

[crude talon]

to me zero feels smooth on my skates, not as much on my arm, but my other textured pads even in xsoft feel very textured on both
not like the surface goes away just because the pad is softer

[crude talon]

I love xsoft but regular soft is probably the safest choice, closer to like a normal rubber base mousepad

xsoft is really plushy

[crisp nimbus]

mb im going off topic here but

would these work with the x2 crazylight medium?

ik it doesnt say x2 crazylight but it looks the exact same

ah nvm i see the middle looks different

nvm i found tiger ice v2 skates for the x2 cl on lethal.gg that get here in 2 days

[rain turret]

Sadly i don't have much experience with 3rd party skates yet, so apart from the fact that using dots makes it easy to use for any mouse, can't really recommend anything.

[crisp nimbus]

ah

honestly, depending on if these skates fix the issue im having right now will make the decision wether i get a new mousepad or not

cuz im not tryna spend any extra money

[tepid burrow]

need new mouse recommendations

[crisp nimbus]

r u asking for mouse recommendations or giving me some?

[tepid burrow]

asking

[crisp nimbus]

what r u looking for?

like something small or medium

actually here

https://www.eloshapes.com/

this website it shows u different mouse shapes

only mouse i can really recommend is the x2 crazylight

[tepid burrow]

hmm neat, mainly need the backend of the mouse to be bigger ideally

[crisp nimbus]

like the hump being bigger?

[tepid burrow]

yah

[crisp nimbus]

and also how do u use ur mouse?

like claw, fingertip or palm

[tepid burrow]

claw mainly

[hazy fiber]

X2H Crazylight

[crisp nimbus]

yea icl the x2 crazylight is perfect

for what u want

[hazy fiber]

Nah, if you want bigger hump, check X2H Crazylight. X2 is flat

[tepid burrow]

green is gpro X purple is x2h

[crisp nimbus]

imo i find the humo on the x2 cl medium big

[hazy fiber]

Ah medium, maybe

[tepid burrow]

idk how the mini has a bigger hump than the medium 😭

[hazy fiber]

Normal X2 CL is flat, but I like it

[tepid burrow]

think ill cop the mini though because the hump difference is literally perfect

[hazy fiber]

X2H Crazylight or which mini?

[tepid burrow]

X2H crazylight mini

[winged pewter]

For work I got a superlight 2 SE for 50 euros

[tepid burrow]

i like my gpro x but claw grip feels abysmal on it

[lament siren]

recommendations for gaming mice? my beast x pro pmo

Is razer coming out with DeathAdder mini ? Or were those rumors all a lie

[silver topaz]

The rest of it is hereee

[rain turret]

Coming together fr

[lament siren]

what pc case did you pick

[bitter sapphire]

only a 5080

[silver topaz]

011 mini v2

[bitter sapphire]

im the only one who hates the Trident Z rams

[rain turret]

WTF O:

[silver topaz]

At least it's not t force ram

[rain turret]

To be fair you can strip any ugly heatspreaders and just point a fan at them, or get a full copper one and do the same and be better off

[bitter sapphire]

im just a RGB ram hater

but i hate the heatspreader look on the Trident's

best looking ram heatspreader

next to the Flare

[rain turret]

RGB comes off too if you strip them

I used to like it, but for OC focus i'M getting the most basic spreaders now

[lament siren]

I have mix feelings about it

[rain turret]

All that matters are the ICs

[bitter sapphire]

im not an OC guy at all i don't know how to OC

[lunar niche]

You just turn the nozzle marked NoS counter clockwise and punch it

[winged pewter]

I dont like them either, they wanna look so expensive they kinda look cheap

[lament siren]

heard the g502 is tuff gaming mice

[winged pewter]

Tuff to aim with

[lament siren]

naw bruh trust its tuff

the best in The game

[viscid bison]

sora v2 or the lamzu maya. I use both(at the same time) - so all good g

[lament siren]

we have a polish eSport player in this server who can confirm it

[lament siren]

sora v2 is ass

[viscid bison]

it's all the same to me

[lament siren]

fair

[viscid bison]

this on the other hand https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/167181566978555904/1266880767297060985/image0.jpg?ex=69544e28&is=6952fca8&hm=c8e6eb081790e20246ebdd408d914b88eca6ef040122ce1344132530c2eea7e4&=&format=webp&width=1395&height=1845

[lament siren]

whos holding you against your will ?

[viscid bison]

it's not mine but it's mildly tough

@wispy blaze

[winged pewter]

Is there a mouse somewhere in this picture?

[viscid bison]

avert your eyes from the goon anime and you'll find it

[wispy blaze]

it even has a scroll wheel

[quasi field]

Looks horrible. Mall ninja mouse

Mouse version of this

[lament siren]

thoughts on compact potato bogitech pro x superlight 2c

[rain turret]

No

[round lagoon]

HMMMM

other than the mids and bass being different, I might like this headphone

also only $200

[round lagoon]

getting replacement pads might be pain for this, skipping cause of that.

[lament siren]

I ain't getting shark

[foggy axle]

did you check the distortion?

[hazy fiber]

X2 Crazylight

[round lagoon]

no

[short solstice]

woled monitor purchasing feels like a lottery

[gaunt flax]

honestly if you're worried about grey banding stuff then wait because i'd assume people like myself using woled now don't mind or care about the minor grey banding

i feel folks who are really particular about that sort of thing would be better served with qd oled in a fully dark room because i doubt any woled will satisfy them fully with the banding stuff

[unborn stone]

The R50x uses the same core drivers as the R70x, just modified. Look at that!

[round lagoon]

lmao, at least the highs is okay

compared to like 490, it's quite worrying

[gaunt flax]

hrm i have a friend in USA right now, maybe the plan is i ask them to go to microcenter and bring me back a bundle lol

that seems only way to build a half decent priced system right now

[round lagoon]

yesh, do it before another price hike hit the tower

[foggy axle]

yeah the distortion levels at 114db are quite worrying

he should test at like 125db so you could really see the distortion come out

that will allow us to truly tell which headphones are worthy

[round lagoon]

is it really needed? I think most people don't really EQ/raise the volume of their headphone to that extreme amount

[foggy axle]

is 114db not extreme?

[round lagoon]

I dunno, I mostly listen around 64-75db

[foggy axle]

then why look at distortion charts measured at 114db

thats why nobody cares about what amir has to say

taking into account measurements taken at dangerous sound levels is pointless

if you listen to music above 100dbspl repeatedly, you WILL irreversibly damage your hearing

"NIHL can be caused by a one-time exposure to an intense “impulse” sound, such as an explosion, or by continuous exposure to loud sounds over an extended period of time, such as noise generated in a woodworking shop.

Recreational activities that can put you at risk for NIHL include target shooting and hunting, snowmobile riding, listening to MP3 players at high volume through earbuds or headphones, playing in a band, and attending loud concerts. Harmful noises at home may come from sources including lawnmowers, leaf blowers, and woodworking tools.

Sound is measured in units called decibels. Sounds at or below 70 A-weighted decibels (dBA), even after long exposure, are unlikely to cause hearing loss. However, long or repeated exposure to sounds at or above 85 dBA can cause hearing loss. The louder the sound, the shorter the amount of time it takes for NIHL to happen." -Noise-Induced Hearing Loss https://www.nidcd.nih.gov/health/noise-induced-hearing-loss

take care of your ears, its worth it

[round lagoon]

This is why i wear iem outside. Too many car noises.

Also why I want more treble, I can get the details without the loud.

[gaunt flax]

only thing travelling with computer gear is a pita. He'd have to hand carry motherboard at least

[heady crystal]

This is why I love ANC

Commuting to work is so much more peaceful with ANC. Although it’s more train noises than car noises.

[heady zenith]

well since my ears are already fucked im fine

[unborn stone]

so true 👑

[foggy axle]

truthe nuke

[mental spade]

So don't go to any concerts or festivals

Those are all well above the dBA levels

[foggy axle]

hearing protection earplugs exist

and yes, if you dont plan on ruining your hearing, you shouldnt be going to concerts and festivals without hearing protection

[mental spade]

Yeah I have definitely lost some hearing from those

[foggy axle]

welp, thats how the cookie crumbles unfortunately

I got into stuff in my past that has definitely damaged my hearing to a certain extent

[mental spade]

Ears ringing after some of those

Idk why I would enjoy the concert just as much at much lower volume

[foggy axle]

maybe not, but eitherway its just not healthy for your hearing

[deep hawk]

My tinnitus was acting up yesterday, quite irksome

Don't be a fool, protect your (hearing) tool

[round lagoon]

This is why you should have good sound system at home, so that you can get half of the experience (good sound system, if concert is even good for that).

[foggy axle]

I got some of that due to an "accident" at a shooting range, the shooting instructor basically didn't tell any of us to put in hearing protection. (and since I was a kid I didnt think much of it) And so someone shot a 12ga next to me, that was quite loud. So due to that I have pretty rare, but persistent flare-ups of tinnitus.

[unborn stone]

teuthnuke

[foggy axle]

Thankfully besides that, my hearing is really good all things considered.

[vague arch]

For those of you who have both the 80he and 60he v2 which keyboard do you end up using more and why?

[heady zenith]

2he

and yes i also have the 80 and 60v2

[vague arch]

How come you prefer it?

[hazy fiber]

Using 80HE right now, but bought 60v2 and Optimum case, because I don't use F keys and arrows that much. Also think 60% looks cleaner overall, really like the Optimum case.

[heady zenith]

the others are too small and lack a numpad

[crude talon]

all my dumb friends were shocked that I wanted to wear earplugs for the sabaton concert 💀

actually same with my miku concert, my friend only wore earplugs for the songs he didn’t like 🥀

[round lagoon]

at least now earpods exist so more people actually have something that act as earplugs (unless they play music at loud volume)

shits getting too hard to choose

I mean, I like how flat the mids is on hype 4 mk2. But at $150 less I can get almost the same treble.

[quasi field]

https://youtu.be/zTEQmmG6TzE

[quasi field]

That's dBA

Reaching into the 100s in bass is very common

I do it all the time. Human hearing is far less sensitive in the lower frequencies

The idea that «100 dB is insane and will destroy your hearing!!» is a misconception from A-weighted hearing charts

Of course 100 dB is insanely loud at 1000 Hz where our hearing is most sensitive

But at 50 Hz it is not

Amir's distortion measurements are the most useful ones out there exactly because he measures at louder volumes than others

[foggy axle]

So apply all, or any part of what you just said to his susvara review.

[quasi field]

I'm not talking about the Susvara review. I'm defending 114 dB measurements

[foggy axle]

Alright, so to the meat and potatoes of the argument then. Just because frequencies lower down are ones that we are not as sensitive to, doesn't mean in the slightest that your ears will not be impacted. Low end frequencies still contribute to hearing loss.

"Low frequency noises when presented at high intensity and longer duration can become as damaging as the high frequency noises.

High frequency (high pitched) sounds are easier for our ears to detect, which is why they often seem louder than low frequency sounds. However, low pitched noises can still cause hearing damage, even if it doesn’t seem as intense.

In other words, just because we perceive low frequency sounds less easily doesn’t mean they still can’t damage our hearing over time and/or at a high intensity."

• https://hearinghealthfoundation.org/blogs/are-low-frequency-sounds-more-safe-for-hearing

People are much more likely to incorrectly gauge what is a safe listening level @ lower frequencies.

"The results of this study clearly indicate that there is a pronounced discrepancy between the unobtrusive perception of LF sound, reflected in their low sensation levels and the physiological responses of the cochlea following the LF sound exposure. To the best of our knowledge, perception has been the only measure available in humans to assess inner ear responses to very LF sound, but, as the current data show, severely underestimates cochlear and, especially OHC, sensitivity. Direct quantifications of inner ear active amplification, as measured in this study, are much better suited to assess the risk potential of LF sound."

• https://royalsocietypublishing.org/rsos/article/1/2/140166/36427/Low-frequency-sound-affects-active-micromechanics

^^^ That one I would actually very much recommend reading into.

[quasi field]

The first article is almost useless. It is being vague about the numbers.
The second one says «The sound level of the intense 30 Hz stimulus was 120 dB SPL, corresponding to an A-weighted level of 80 dB».
Yeah of course this is bad when it's a constant 90 second sound being played...

When there are sounds in the 110 dB range in the bass playing music they will be very brief peaks

Amir mentions this in the video I sent btw

[foggy axle]

Yeah, brief peaks. So what did you mean by "Reaching into the 100s in bass is very common", cause peaking at 100db for a very short amount of time is fine, but consistently listening at that volume is not. And that's putting past the fact that 100db is ~3x quieter than 114db. There is no reason to measure at 114db, and listening to any sounds at 100db consistently will damage your hearing over time.

[quasi field]

I never said peaking at 100 dB for a very short time. You are now just taking my 100s number and making it as weak as possible. 100 - @ 105 dB can easily be sustained level at low frequencies if you listen to 85 dBA especially if your headphone isn't flat in the bass. Peaks will be even higher than that. I truly do not understand why people have a problem with 114 dB measurements aside from misunderstanding loudness, it is just a deeper insight into distortion performance of the transducer in the end.

Now you claim that any sounds at 100 dB consistently will damage your hearing, your sources do not say that. The last one does 120 dB which is far louder as a consistant sound

[foggy axle]

120db for 90 sec.

[quasi field]

Yes, that's bad

I am not talking about anything that loud for that duration

[foggy axle]

Well then, it seems that both of our minds are made up and you are more than welcome to think whatever you wish. I do not see a point to keep this going.

But I still want to urge people to err on the side of caution when it comes to hearing. Hearing damage is irreversible.

[quasi field]

For good faith I'd recommend you take a quick look at the video I sent since I looked through your two articles, one of which was quite long

[unborn stone]

Isn't it a well known fact that amir is deaf?

[foggy axle]

I used to be very much into whatever Amir was about quite a bit ago, so I am pretty familiar with his philosophy on the topic. I skimmed through a fair bit of the video but I really do not see much about health concerns. Video seemed to be much more about perceptive loudness from a standpoint of what is comfortable, and not what is safe.

Not that he didn't talk about hearing health at all, just didn't seem to be the main focus. Much more a secondary, even tertiary one.

[unborn stone]

Oh this answers the question!

Distorted chainsaw asmr (real 114db)

[short solstice]

nah i already got one of the new tandems lol

i decided to buy one regardless

i dont mind either

[bitter sapphire]

im really eyeing with that TrueBlack Glossy OLED 👀

[gaunt flax]

It’s great

[bitter sapphire]

its not that expensive either as well for 653 euro

but its a pre-order

[gaunt flax]

The 280hz one I guess?

[bitter sapphire]

yeah

i don't really need more than that overall

[gaunt flax]

Which is plenty for most folks anyway I think. Only comp fps people need the 540hz

[bitter sapphire]

Yeah

[quasi field]

What do people mean by need when you say that?

It's perfectly reasonable to want that if you need a certain low level of persistence even for singleplayer titles

[bitter sapphire]

im playing both multi/single player games

more multi titles

[quasi field]

Higher refresh rate is always nicer for the same reason why more colour coverage and accuracy is 😍

[crude talon]

my friend turned up all his settings and played on 80fps on his 360hz monitor, he said it was fine since he didn’t turn on motion blur

I should send him the ufo

[quasi field]

That's always the best tool to see it with

[gaunt flax]

i would assume they mean need as in what is most competitive for die hard comp fps folks

but that's a subjective question

like 540hz doesn't benefit as much for someone playing solo rpg with high detail that isn't even getting 300fps anyway

whereas comp fps you actually can get 500-600consistent fps with good computer

[bitter sapphire]

i can't even hit that FPS number

[gaunt flax]

yeah you need basically 5000 series or high 4000 series card plus 7800x3d or better

[proper vector]

5090 and can't even hit 5090fps smh fake advertising amd

[winged pewter]

The one with black crunching and grey banding?

[bitter sapphire]

https://rog.asus.com/monitors/27-to-31-5-inches/rog-strix-oled-xg27aqwmg/ this

[winged pewter]

Yeah that one has shit reviews iirc

Which is weird cuz the mo27q28g is the same panel and it didnt have those issues

[bitter sapphire]

my room is not well light up

[winged pewter]

Does that matter?

[bitter sapphire]

When one is glossy and the other has a matt display

[winged pewter]

But black crushing and gray banding dont rely that much on panel coating id say

[bitter sapphire]

i don't really care about gray banding

[crude talon]

why not try and find a monitor with less issues though

[winged pewter]

i hope you dont have any at least then if you’re set on it

[proper vector]

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/table

[gaunt flax]

Doesn’t exist yet

Qd oled has its own issues

Some of which annoy people even more

[proper vector]

Just wait until RGB Stripe next year

[twilit flame]

Tandem stripe

[crude talon]

Bee just said that there’s a different model with the same panel that doesn’t have those two issues
Not saying takko has to buy a perfect monitor, but they did say they play in a dark room so maybe qd glossy won’t be as big a problem for them

[bitter sapphire]

This is all of my light source

and thats behind me

[winged pewter]

Mo27q28g had less reported issues

[gaunt flax]

Honestly I think it’s just less reported due to less people buying it

[winged pewter]

Its the cheapest and first version of it

[gaunt flax]

It’s probably still pretty prevalent as it’s same panel

[winged pewter]

Most people i know have it

[winged pewter]

Who bought tandem

[gaunt flax]

What I noticed is there’s a new trend of oled gamers really caring about the grey banding stuff

Which has amplified people looking specifically for it

[proper vector]

Point something out and figure a method to measure it and people will care about it

[gaunt flax]

And redditers won’t even buy or support a monitor now that has any, to the point oled gaming reddit threads are filled with same 4-5 people saying woled is unusable and qd is only way

It’s way overblown honestly

[crude talon]

I feel like my monitor is flickering and I don’t know why, gonna drive me mad

[winged pewter]

I guess its because its more affordable for general masses now too

[bitter sapphire]

i just want an OLED monitor

[winged pewter]

All i can say is that i had 0 issues so far with the gigabyte version

[gaunt flax]

it’s honestly been fine for me. Never cared about any banding stuff on my end and it’s been great

Much prefer it to qd oled since I literally have studio lighting in my gaming room

do not like the washed out black and purple effect since I don’t game in the dark

[proper vector]

There you go https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/table?c=general:product,general:year,general:sku,usage:4112,usage:17021,usage:4113,usage:4114,general:price,general:test_bench,test:1419,test:1532,test:1535&f=general:test_bench=recent;test:1419=QD-OLED|OLED;test:1532=2560 x 1440;test:1535=240~540&s=normal

[crude talon]

OLED is nice but I kinda wish I just got glossy IPS instead

[gaunt flax]

I love my glossy oled, the gaming clarity is pretty nuts

[winged pewter]

Ips with what tech?

[gaunt flax]

The one downside is it really made me realise how bad Netflix quality is

[winged pewter]

Nvidia upscaling? 😄

[gaunt flax]

it’s so tragic that Netflix doesn’t do proper higher res for a lot of things

[heady crystal]

Streaming bit rates are ass

[winged pewter]

I was running the nvidia upscaling on all the vids until i saw the gpu usage lmao

[heady crystal]

Apple TV goes above 25mbps for 4K HDR at least

[crude talon]

Idk, didn’t look at any IPS monitors
Kinda just fomo bought OLED, always thought my laptop screen looked nice and I don’t find the diff to be super worth it, it’s a great monitor though, I’ll still keep it

[heady crystal]

You need Blu-ray or 4K Blu-ray (when available) for proper quality.

[winged pewter]

Idk for me the difference is kinda huge

Went from msi 273qpf to gigabyte mo27q28g

[proper vector]

Jellyfin

[crude talon]

I went from 1080p60 TN to 1440p360 QD OLED so that difference was big
But my laptop has glossy(I think IPS) screen and I didn’t find the difference between those super big

[heady crystal]

Alternatively: https://www.kaleidescape.com/

Use what the rich people use

[winged pewter]

For me it was matte finish to the new matte finish on the oled, which is quite good vs old tech

[bitter sapphire]

https://rog.asus.com/monitors/27-to-31-5-inches/rog-strix-xg27acs/spec/ me with a Fast IPS monitor

[gaunt flax]

i actually hate that i can see blocky color blocks on netflix now

i thought my browser was broken but then i realised it's just oled can show it better

[proper vector]

A year of Netflix is about the same in price as small NAS setup

[gaunt flax]

even that teaser we just did on youtube

looks ugly on my oled but nice on ips because it can't see the blocks

the jagged lines tilt me

[quasi field]

That's why I only watch 70 GB Remux files

[proper vector]

x264 1080p WebRIP

[quasi field]

x264? Eeeew

Get with the times unc

[proper vector]

[crude talon]

watching windowed so I don’t have to worry about scaling 👴

[proper vector]

Honest, I don't remember when I last saw a rip with something else than x265 or AV1
Future is now

[heady crystal]

AV2 when

[proper vector]

Also - dontcha love when movie has improperly encoded 5.1 so that it's quiet af on 2.0 configuration

[heady crystal]

The solution is upgrading to 5.1

Or 7.1.4

[thin zodiac]

Does anyone here know the Pulsar Gaming Gears Xlite v3 Wired Medium?

[proper vector]

Really good when it comes to quality/price ratio

I mean, most pulsar mice are

[thin zodiac]

Thx

[hollow fulcrum]

Is wooting 60he+ v1 and The g pro x superlight v1 a valid Combo?

[thin zodiac]

I ordered one. My current mouse is still a Roccat Kone Pro. It was about time for a new one.

[rapid bane]

why can i palm grip my mouse

new mouse

[thin zodiac]

This will be my new: https://eu.pulsar.gg/collections/mice/products/xlite-v3-wired-gaming-mouse?variant=50055985824073

[swift marsh]

worlds smallest mouse

[rapid bane]

it could be

i can palm grip it

idk

claw grip*

sorry

[thin zodiac]

Full of holes like Swiss cheese. 😂

[rapid bane]

i already got mad and shot it a few times

[thin zodiac]

😂

[lament siren]

have they fix the software stuff yet ?

[crude talon]

I had this but I returned it

Using the hsk pro since it’s a bit smaller

[crude talon]

G wolves took $40 off and I had to pay for shipping, and it took a solid month, support was so unhelpful and I still haven’t gotten the money back 💀

[hazy fiber]

There's a firmware bug which should be fixed soon. Beta firmware is already available but not publicly yet.

[crude talon]

I kinda wanna get the boardzy cl

[abstract warren]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-catdriving-gif-11227672289482918211

[zinc herald]

Not smallest. Its pretty standard for a FT Mouse.

[crude talon]

mine is smaller 😎

[wispy blaze]

You can palm this??????????

[rapid bane]

claw

[wispy blaze]

Far from

Welp gotta find the titan1 pics again

[wispy blaze]

Shit this probably aint even the smallest actually good mouse

[rapid bane]

yeah im claw gripping this mouse

a literal claw

[crude talon]

perfect side button position

[bitter sapphire]

smol hand moment

[rapid bane]

real

hand MIGHT be kinda smol

it fits nice

[crude talon]

I can kinda pull that off on the hsk pro but I’m on the very edge of the buttons and the front end of the mouse

and strained

[rapid bane]

this is basically the same size as the hsk pro maybe a LITTLE bigger

its just a better hsk pro i think

[bitter sapphire]

Im gonna stick with the OP1 shape its just too goated

[wispy blaze]

I could never 😭

[quasi field]

Looks uncomfortable

[wispy blaze]

My hands are not small enough for that

Let alone arthritis

[rapid bane]

the op1 was ok

[crude talon]

Elo measured it as like 4mm wider

[bitter sapphire]

i got used to it as my overall grip is really weird LOL

[rapid bane]

yea that

[quasi field]

Zabito boga

[bitter sapphire]

Like real i use a weird grip

And this is how i hold my mouse casually as well

[wispy blaze]

Beastx max

[crude talon]

That’s quite a bit, closer to an asym than a hsk pro in size
I might try it at some point if it’s on maxgaming, shopping through gwolves was horrible
Cutting off a third of the weight is cool, even if I like how skinny the hsk pro is

Do you know if the clicks are as heavy as the asym

[rapid bane]

yea its in the same category of mice as an asym

[crude talon]

with those super low profile switches

[rapid bane]

ive no idea

the clicks are nice though

shopping through gwolves was fine for me

[crude talon]

shopping was ok but support was horrible for me*

I didn’t like the scroll wheel either

[rapid bane]

oh

the scroll wheel is whatever

[crude talon]

Except shipping took forever

[rapid bane]

i dont use it much anyways

[crude talon]

I didn’t like how little feedback it had I think
Kinda felt like the encoder was made of rubber like the outside of the wheel, can’t explain it well lol

[obtuse dove]

tiny hands lol

[rapid bane]

yes

[obtuse dove]

I can ftip the regular sized GPX if i wanted lol

I got big hands LMAO

[crude talon]

I was fingertipping the logitech performance mx 👴

and also the gpx when I still had one

[obtuse dove]

ah, yes, the OG MX master before they called it the MX master LMAO

[wispy blaze]

Same

Its the only way a gpx is somewhat comfortable for me 😭

[obtuse dove]

LMAO

[wispy blaze]

Fuckass potato shape

[obtuse dove]

I personally like the shape

very nice to palm

[wispy blaze]

Im not a fan

Cant palm it, claw feels bad because of flat sides, + heavier than I prefer

[obtuse dove]

rip

[wispy blaze]

Beastx max 🤍

[wide zinc]

gpx 2 dex feels great in my hand

[wispy blaze]

I hate ergos 😔

[obtuse dove]

the magnesium coating on those for me is really slippery

[wispy blaze]

Really?

[obtuse dove]

yeah.

[wispy blaze]

Quite the opposite for me this shits grippy

Thats unfortunate

[obtuse dove]

GPX coating is fine for me

pulsar coating is fine for me

[wispy blaze]

Gpx is like a slip and slide for me 😭 😭 😭

[obtuse dove]

its not isolated to WLMouse either, it's almost every magnesium mouse i've tried

[wispy blaze]

Havent tried pulsar, but lamzus is very nice

[obtuse dove]

lamzu was decently grippy for me, but the clicks were super duper stiff

[wispy blaze]

Genetics moment ig, skin difference

[wispy blaze]

They were lighter than my gpx1 by a decent amount, but nowhere near as light as my beastx

Beastx w omrons is unlike any mouse ive tried when it comes to the clicks

[obtuse dove]

for me it takes like double the force to click than a fresh out of the box GPX2

[wispy blaze]

These finally made my stop loving bspd as much

[wispy blaze]

Damn

[terse ferry]

My grip is funny

[wispy blaze]

Jakubix nobody cares about the g502

[obtuse dove]

[terse ferry]

Thumb has to squish mouse hard, lmb and rmb fingers i use curled fingers and rest are squishing mouse from right and pinky finger is free

Otherwise it is not optimal

@wispy blaze g502 is basicly perfect if you have big hands

[wispy blaze]

as someone with big hands

no

[terse ferry]

Define big hands

[wispy blaze]

my hands are 20x12cm

[terse ferry]

Mine is like 25 x 18cm

[obtuse dove]

as a guy with big hands, absolutely not

[wispy blaze]

your like 5'1

i doubt that

[terse ferry]

Due to scoliosis

[wispy blaze]

does your back spin a fucking 180???

[terse ferry]

Basicly S

My entire family members are tall as fuck

Tallest one is like above 200 cm

[wispy blaze]

same with my family yet my dad is 5'5

you arent missing a ft from scoliosis 😭

[terse ferry]

I'am missing atleast 30cm

And my feet are tiny

[wispy blaze]

"A height loss of a full foot (12 inches) is an extreme and highly improbable outcome solely from scoliosis"

im gonna lean on the side of no, you arent missing 30cm from scoliosis...

[terse ferry]

Well if we are talking genetics. I'am because it would grow properly if no scoliosis

@wispy blaze anyway i was talking about my mouse grip

Try it

[wispy blaze]

ive tried something like that

not a fan

i use my pinky a lot for finer movements so it just doesnt feel as controlled

[terse ferry]

It is very stable tho

[wispy blaze]

on a 120g g502 maybe

anything can be stable on that

my mouse is 1/3rd of the weight and is affected far more by changes in force

[terse ferry]

I cant use my grip on smaller and mouses because they slide too much

[wispy blaze]

^

[terse ferry]

[wispy blaze]

the g502s surface area and weight make it require far more force to move in small amounts

smaller mice = lighter + less surface area

[terse ferry]

I dont feel heavinness too

[wispy blaze]

youve used the g502 for however long you are used to it

just like how when you get used to light mice you dont notice how light they are

[terse ferry]

More like they do not make g502 shape mouse

[wispy blaze]

its not really a desirable shape anymore

thats not what people are wanting to buy

[terse ferry]

For my grip it is unfortunetly

[wide zinc]

yeah i mained a g502x didnt think it was heavy. then moved to a gpx dex. now the g502x feels like a brick

[wispy blaze]

yeah but your in the minority now

[terse ferry]

G502x is kinda worse version of g502 lightspeed

[wispy blaze]

no wire is always a + imo

or is lightspeed also wireless

[terse ferry]

Lightspeed is name of wireless technology from logitech

No wire g502 is great

But issue i had with their new g502 new mouse switches are to heavy to press in middle

Thats why I returned it

[lament siren]

need razer to bring back the viper ultimate and improve their ass software

[rapid bane]

my mouse is 31/200 of the weight

[bitter ore]

[gaunt flax]

i'm so down for 29g x2f if pulsar fixes their software

[obtuse dove]

Also pulsar making Sayo device clone!?

[mental spade]

Interesting

My mouse addiction has been subdued recently and replaced by keyboards

[gaunt flax]

my x2v2 finally broke and i'm on my backup, so if they could release x2f 29g soon that would be greta

and supposedly they have software fixing the sensor issues internally

[obtuse dove]

Yeah it's in alpha right now

[lament siren]

imagine if wooting came out with a mouse

Got that "clicky" sound profile 😭

thicky 😭

[obtuse dove]

I could see them making a GPX2 Superstrike esc mouse

[short solstice]

I'll miss you my cozy be quiet! Case. But the power button stopped working

Phanteks gotta be slaughtered for their aio clearance

[primal cipher]

You should swap the power button for a lekker switch instead smh

[crude talon]

I thought they were gonna do a closed shell x4 instead of a new x2f

or I believe that’s what they were saying in their server after the x2f beta

[winged pewter]

Cant you just swap the power button?

[crude talon]

Also pulsar announced a blue archive collab
Where is that, haven’t seen anything more about that

Okay that’s mentioned in their video

[gaunt flax]

I wouldn’t be surprised if they do both

Pulsar is quite fast at releasing things

[hazy fiber]

I wish they were fast when it comes to firmware stuff, but it's fine

[gaunt flax]

I wish they’d give some indication of how far out it is though because if it’s late 2026 I’ll just buy an asym now

[hazy fiber]

Yeah, they already shared firmware fix to me recently, will test it out next week once I get home

Seems promising

[thin zodiac]

Soon the mice weigh so little that you'd think you were holding a breath of air in the hand.

[hazy fiber]

It's already like that tbh. I can barely feel my 35g X2 Crazylight in my hand, and there are also 15-20g fingertip mice too

[mental spade]

im just waiting on that vaxee collab

although pokemon collab could be dangerous

[hazy fiber]

20g

[gaunt flax]

Yeah asym is already as light as you can really go for production stuff I think

I do like that x2f has fully flat sides though

I don’t need the holes to save weight

[hazy fiber]

Yeah, flat sides are good

[thin zodiac]

I just ordered the Pulsar Xlite Wired Medium. I need something with a cable. I've had really bad experiences with wireless mice (and keyboards).

But most importantly, the prices are insane. I wouldn't pay €150-200 for any mouse in the world.

[crude talon]

hate this mouse 💢

[short solstice]

i could have but how could i have excused buying new parts otherwise

i upgraded my whole system this year. top of the line parts (excluding GPU, not paying 1000 to go to palantir)

[round lagoon]

Gonna buy 2 pair of moondrop old fashioned

In Taobao they're like $15 and here it cost like $30

Still, shipping made em both cost $40 but it's still cheaper than a single one here minus shipping.

[quasi field]

Why 2

[round lagoon]

It's cheap.

[quasi field]

[round lagoon]

Been wanting koss like earphone, and since old fashioned exist and has replaceable connector and mounting, it's perfect

My next on the list would be flathead, but ehh, never have a good experience with one

[quasi field]

Why get one then?

[round lagoon]

I dunno, i might just skip that lmao

Haven't even found one that interests me on that

[shut drift]

Just ordered a wooting 60he+, tipsy m1 iems and a fifine am8t

[lament siren]

jumpscare

[crude talon]

holy brick

[silver topaz]

It's done yippee

[round lagoon]

ordered 3 instead lmao, cause it's just extra $15.

[viscid bison]

mine is on the way and I'm hoping it'll be a nice side-grade to my Koss', but if nothing else it'll be a neat thing to look at imo

or could have built my own had I not rid of my soldering iron 😭 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-i4DQwczgQ&t=1543s

[round lagoon]

I just wanna put a nice headpads and maybe earclip on one of them

[quasi field]

I really wonder what distortion performance it has

Would need to be amazing to survive a bass boost big enough to make it sound good probably

[hazy karma]

Nice build, mines slowly coming together

[short solstice]

another hydroshift 2 user spotted

[silver topaz]

Can you blame me tho lmaooo

Looks much better when colors are more dialed in

[wide zinc]

Is your CPU idling at 58?

[short solstice]

not at all

happy new year

[silver topaz]

No I was on arc raiders lol

[winter cipher]

My CPU idles at 57, probably cuz I didn't use thermalpaste, but those graphene pads instead.

[past dome]

What's even the point then if it just runs hotter

[analog turtle]

Clean I wanna side mount my card tbh this is my new build

I’m a lian li chrome case lover though

[rain turret]

Yay

[silver topaz]

I do like the chrome haha, if it wasn't for the aorus screen I'd say vertical mount it

[analog turtle]

Tbh I leave the screen off ngl lol

[silver topaz]

Just ordered myself a govee plug to try and link up to my stream deck to try and control my setup lights lol

[silver topaz]

Fair enough, it's such a tiny screen anyways

[analog turtle]

Haha that’s nice ya I like the chrome case cuz the lights in my case are very dim on the outside it’s so nice

[honest geyser]

damn your pc clean asl brodie

y all prefer performance or looks

like if y'all had liKE LETS SAY 1.8K or 2K to spend

[dusky hornet]

Guys what mouses do you have/recommend 300 budget

[crude talon]

300 is a lot for a mouse
what grip though

[proper vector]

[gaunt flax]

yeah $300 is more than both my work and gaming mice combined lol

[proper vector]

Nah, they said 300, so it may be any currency

[heady zenith]

i think they meant vnd

not inr

[gaunt flax]

what if they mean $300 in gold bought last year

they be rich!

[honest geyser]

Honestly 300 is a lot go for something like finalmouse, performs well and looks clean, razer and pulsare mices are tuff as well and i personally got the gpx superlight 2 but the side buttons aint allat but im happy with this mouse and the software

but yeah de''pends on grip aswell

[proper vector]

Finalmouse 💀

[honest geyser]

i went with gpx cuz of the the safe grip

[honest geyser]

nah bro its good lowkey just expensive as shit

i mean if he wants to spend that much its for looks aswell

[proper vector]

Finalmouse is shite
Cheap Chinesium mice with no QC marketed as something premium
Get WLMouse, exactly the same stuff, but better QC and software

[honest geyser]

i wouldn't go for finalmouse too lowkey

[honest geyser]

WLMouse they look alike and more available your right my bad

[gaunt flax]

should probably recommend based on what grip and what type of mouse he wants, not just price

[honest geyser]

yeah really important

[gaunt flax]

finalmouse whether you love or hate them isn't a fit for every grip. It's low hump which not everyone wants/prefers for one

[hazy fiber]

X2 Crazylight mini
X2 Crazylight medium

[dusky hornet]

Aud

[honest geyser]

was about to get that medium too

[crude talon]

I bought a cl mini but hasn’t arrived yet

[dusky hornet]

Sorry all i know is like TikTok knowledge, is attack shark x11 or wtv it’s called any good?

[crude talon]

what grip do you use?

[honest geyser]

hell yeah, tell us how is it when you got it

[hazy fiber]

For 300 aud you'll get a very good mouse, avoid attack shark malware

[honest geyser]

was about to get that medium version too but when with gpx idk why

[honest geyser]

yeah the cyber attack was lowkey crazy and x11 aint allat from x11 users but its not bad either, you just can get better mouses

espacially from the budget he got

[hazy fiber]

web software, better main and side buttons, better coating, lighter

[gaunt flax]

That’s like a whole stick of 8gb ram, big spender

[honest geyser]

yeah cuz gpx side buttoppns aint allat just went with cuz ima a toe sucker for logitech mouse's like a fanboy

[crude talon]

potato

[hazy fiber]

[honest geyser]

but got a potato shape too

love me some potatoes man

pulsar would've been a good choice

i love their recent projects

what's y'all favorite brand ?

[crude talon]

If you claw grip with like medium-large hands lamzu maya x could be a good choice, my friend really likes his
If you don’t mind a wired mouse, endgame gear op1/xm2 should be good too
for fingertip x2 crazylight mini is probably one of the nicest
Razers mice could be a nice option for claw too

Idk exactly what they cost in aud though

[dusky hornet]

Idk ??? Right handed 😭

[crude talon]

erm

[honest geyser]

bro

like dop you use claw, palm ?

[dusky hornet]

The only claw grip ik is on controller

[crude talon]

is this a good pic to explain? The red parts are the contact points for each grip

[honest geyser]

claw grip goated for me lowkey

[dusky hornet]

Alr wait

[viscid bison]

Zaunkoenig M3K. You pretty much buy it just for its rarity

[dusky hornet]

I’m a claw

Why tf js this so confusing

Why is there so much options

[crude talon]

some shapes work better for certain grips than others

[honest geyser]

correct me if im worng, tenz pulsar mouse would be good for that grip

[dusky hornet]

Looks like a chunk of carbon bro

[crude talon]

Maya X should be good for claw

[crude talon]

yeah also for fingertip grip

it’s very expensive

[dusky hornet]

Would it matter if i got a “palm” mouse if i had claw

[honest geyser]

there are hybrid kind of mopuse for both

[ancient mantle]

Definitely far from all the ways one can grip a mouse effectively.

[honest geyser]

like the tenz pulsar mouse got palm and claw

[viscid bison]

sounds like you need Tenz's mouse, he's a hybrid of palm-claw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mN5ExWreD0

[ancient mantle]

Actually wonder any 1-3-1 grippers among the mouse reviewers

[crude talon]

I haven’t seen any

[ancient mantle]

Guess smaller audience kind of lot of all they say won't apply to ones that don't.

[dusky hornet]

What do you think abt the gpro superlight?

[honest geyser]

i got a questions, pc box related, 4000D or nzxt H6 flow ? i will get a rtx 5070 and ryzen 7 9800x3D

[honest geyser]

ive got it its good but there are better options

i love the on board memory software though but bad side buttons not bad but like not good too

[dusky hornet]

Like im looking for something aesthetically pleasing (white) and also good at its job

[honest geyser]

but get the gpx2 if you get, in my country there about the same price idk for you

[honest geyser]

a lot of options but look this video he sent you and see it for yourself

[crude talon]

Maya X looks good in white, should be good for claw, but always get ur stuff somewhere with good returns if you don’t end up liking it

[honest geyser]

4000D case or nzxt h6 flow for air flow ? What do y’all recommend

[gaunt flax]

Havn bf360 flow

[wet coral]

i have a build in the 4000d
for a midsize, its small or gpu is a fat fuck

[viscid bison]

I'm not a fan of too much glass, so Corsair for mine

[honest geyser]

idk i got the pny three fans oc rtx 5070 foor me its more about thermals

[honest geyser]

holy lmao

[wet coral]

whats the mm length

[crude talon]

damn that’s tight

[wet coral]

my aorus is 339mm long

[honest geyser]

uhh wait ima check i just got it

[honest geyser]

gpu goated though

but that long asf

[honest geyser]

aight bet

[wet coral]

fatass cooler, cant even hit above 65c

even with 10% pwr limit

[honest geyser]

that good asl though

the problem is i went and checked the gpu box aint got the details about the size

but online it says that's it 299,5 mm

i will get like an nzxt 120mm fan as exhaust cuz idk and two 140mm intake fans at the bottom for intake from corsair non rgb cause im more of performance guy then looks for now

[wet coral]

im only using the aio cause it was free lmao

air cooling all the way

[honest geyser]

nah im getting aio too cuz i love the look and the price of crosair aio black

[honest geyser]

im getting CORSAIR Nautilus 360 RS

[viscid bison]

it should fit https://forum.corsair.com/forums/topic/167369-gpu-clearance-for-the-4000d-airflow-with-an-aio-placed-at-the-front-of-the-case/

[wet coral]

i dont really look at aios

[honest geyser]

bet thx so nzxt isnt the right option from what im hearing

[wet coral]

also mine doesnt tell my pump speed so i have it set permanently to ~70% speed or else it gets really annoying

[honest geyser]

what cpu and gpu you got ?

[wet coral]

its louder than when i had an air cooler on idle

[wet coral]

9800x3d + 9070xt

[honest geyser]

damn dawg cool build

aight and how the thermals looking like

with the aio you got*

[wet coral]

i really gotta hit the cpu for it to go above 75

but for esport titles n shi its ~60-65

idle is a bit warmer cause i have a really really quiet fan profile

~47c idle

[honest geyser]

thats good man aight ima take, the 4000D

sincvve i love the look of nzxt but the fans of croisair i didn,n't know what to choose

thanks for the help Gore and Prospa

[viscid bison]

all good, G 👍

[winged pewter]

47C idle is quite high no?

[honest geyser]

i mean 65 in game is good

[winged pewter]

Yeah that’s true

[honest geyser]

and yeah 47 idle is still good its not concerning above 60 idle can be concerning though

but if yoou can get like 30-40 idle that's really good temps

[vital gorge]

47 is great

[honest geyser]

yep for me is good too

my current pc cpu is so bad that temps dont even show

my cpu is lowkey cooked cant wait to have a new pc

[winged pewter]

Wdym?

[wet coral]

yes, i said it was high

[honest geyser]

idk when i go on apps like task manager or nvdia app temps dont show up but on other videos from people i see them

and i hadnt changed the paste for since i got like for over 4 years

is it bad if i dont change the paste each year or im fine

cuz games lagged recently i have a rywen 5 3500 and gtx 1660 supper

[wet coral]

you should change it every so often

theres not really a set amount of time but just when you can

[honest geyser]

i see

[winged pewter]

This is what im idling at with silent fan profile

[winged pewter]

Hwinfo64

[honest geyser]

damn

[winged pewter]

Are you on win11 though?

[honest geyser]

yep

[winged pewter]

cuz then I see it in task manager too

[honest geyser]

i can see my gpu temps but not my cpu's

[winged pewter]

yeah CPU temps u cant see in task manager im fairly certain

[honest geyser]

shit but even on nvdia app it dont show up

[winged pewter]

WHy would cpu temp show on your nvidia app

[bitter sapphire]

Hwinfo64 or msi afterburner

[honest geyser]

cuz there is a setting to show them

[honest geyser]

aight i did try msi after burner too

[winged pewter]

just use hwinfo64 man xD

[honest geyser]

wait ima try again cuz i think i might be autistic

[winged pewter]

its literally made for allat

[honest geyser]

aight

[winged pewter]

our idle temp might differ due to case then?

or what tower cooler do you have, im guessing a dual tower too

[bitter sapphire]

He has an AIO

[winged pewter]

huh

[bitter sapphire]

Gore has an AIO

[winged pewter]

yeah I see now

[honest geyser]

I installed it made my pc crash

[winged pewter]

But arent AIOs supposed to run cooler idle than air

[winged pewter]

bsod?

download whocrashed

[honest geyser]

Aight

[elfin kayak]

depends on the aio

[honest geyser]

Wait ima see if i installed on the wrong website cuz wtf

[bitter sapphire]

I do recommend a full windows reinstall instead

[bitter sapphire]

What website huh

[winged pewter]

not already man 🤣

it could be hardware, software, drivers etc

[bitter sapphire]

Windows always the answer

[winged pewter]

You can have a fresh windows install, download riot vanguard

and get bsod instantly

[bitter sapphire]

Just install Linux

[honest geyser]

Man tf did i do

[winged pewter]

whocrashed will hopefully tell u

[honest geyser]

When i run my software it crashed

Yep ima check

[winged pewter]

inb4 it crashes running whocrashed

[honest geyser]

ok nah i got with msi afterburner i got 47-50 cpu temps idle i mean its good i think

[winged pewter]

what cpu?

And what did whocrashed say

[honest geyser]

ryzen 5 3500 and air cooler

[honest geyser]

nah ima googling it right now

it said : This indicates that a thread is returning to user mode from a system call when its IRQL is still above PASSIVE_LEVEL.

[wet coral]

most of the time i look at temps its only a few minutes after gaming + it being summertime when i did look at it

and im not exactly home so i cant say what it is

[winged pewter]

driver or software issue

So you'll probably be fine

[honest geyser]

aight bet thanks