🌐│pc_gear

[wet coral]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/GQcqN6C-9DI

finally a 1440p duel mode monitor thats 27 inches

[bitter sapphire]

for the price of 48GB of ram

[wet coral]

5k 180hz or 1440p 330hz

[bitter sapphire]

i know i saw that video already

[quasi field]

Give me 27 inch 5k 240 Hz plz

[jolly pulsar]

Zach's tech turd

[bitter sapphire]

yeah with Fast IPS panel

[wet coral]

wait its ips?

[bitter sapphire]

yeah

[wet coral]

fahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[wet coral]

gaming ai

[quasi field]

Hoping for 5k (5120 x 2880) oled announcements at CES

[rain turret]

unlucky, thought you got mailed Latina baddie DNA for cloning

[round lagoon]

I want this

But 32 inch

[abstract warren]

I like the wired in Italian leather keeb mat ($55) over the felt one ($23), but the felt is a decent option if you don’t wanna spend a lot

[quasi field]

Which sounded the best to you

[rain turret]

Anyone tried FlexCord yet?

[round lagoon]

hd600 and 900 pro x

Just that hd600 is a bit too uncomfortable and dt 900 pro thin wire and only left side connector makes both a deal breaker to me.

[lunar niche]

What bothered you about the HD600? Clamp?

[silver topaz]

I heard about that, I'd love to try one at some point. Not terribly overpriced either

[pure matrix]

I finally built my new PC

[lunar niche]

Pics plz

[pure matrix]

Way better than my 12yo laptop:)

[pure matrix]

Nothing unique, I didn’t really plan on getting something aesthetically pleasing anyway. Next year I’m planning to move it to another room, and that’s when I can actually focus on aesthetics

Fuck rgb

[lunar niche]

Hope you enjoyed the build in that capacious vessel

[silver topaz]

I'm building mine here in the next week, just waiting on the mobo and the CPU😭

[crude talon]

crazy mousepad setup

[silver topaz]

I didn't even notice that lmao

[pure matrix]

Keebmatholic kinda

[marble cave]

I built this PC in April of this year. At the time, I thought about building another one for my wife or to put in the living room, but with the recent prices, I no longer feel like building another one. I built my first PC before I started college, and at that time I didn't have a stable job. Everything came from the money I earned doing computer maintenance for friends and acquaintances, and even at an internet café.

Now that I'm working and have a well-paying job, it's incredible how much it cost me to build this. Before, building a PC was a hobby, something easy, but now it's a luxury...

[heady zenith]

no gpu smh

[marble cave]

Yes, that was when GPUs were unattainable and hardly available. In the end, I ended up buying an ARC, which has served me well so far. I'm waiting for the 5070ti

[plain schooner]

Me

I like PMM stuff

If you get it I’d definitely get a Bungie holder thing though

[thin zodiac]

I think i've finally found the right (wired) mouse for me: the Glorious O 2.

[thick haven]

someone drop me the best controller/controllers i could buy rn

[abstract warren]

Probably scuf controllers

[rain turret]

Yeah seems great, just needed some feedback. I test many mice at times (some ATK i purchased recently), but i prefer them corded with a bungee, but having to change them each time became cumbersome, also some of them are more stiff and larger diameter than others, so even though the use of bungee, some drag happens, especially the lighter the mouse.
Now this product would completely eliminate those problems, given that it can support 8k Hz polling on anything.

[lament siren]

check out of they're still doing the free game stuff on intel website

[jolly pulsar]

atk influencer, disregard his opinion

[twilit flame]

8khz polling mouse bungee?

[round lagoon]

Really can't escaped being sold to

[rain turret]

cable

Reading comprehension through the roof as usual

[abstract warren]

Atk shark clears use my code for 5% off your next mau5e

[jolly pulsar]

mouse

[round lagoon]

https://youtu.be/EHyk6SB-cs0

A bit ass for me. Too dark.

[swift quail]

I know everyone is gonna say Wooting But has anyone ever had a apex pro tkl gen 3 ive had one its pretty good one of my favorite keyboards it recently broke and i wanted to buy another keyboard so i was thinking about buying the apex pro tkl gen 3 again but idk i looked into the wooting it seemed pretty good has anyone had both of them and which one is better in ur opinion and be really honest

[thin zodiac]

Using punctuation would make the whole thing readable.

[round lagoon]

Wooting, cause at least that one you don't have to replace the whole keyboard

I dont have the other keyboard though

[abstract warren]

Theres also a certain value being given where you can fully customize your board, then if you end up having issues you dont need to replace the entire board, you can just swap out the PCB depending on your issue

[swift quail]

mb i just wanted to write something quick

[swift quail]

Alr no one said anything

but im still gona buy wooting

[surreal vigil]

lowkey just get whichever you like better. and take a look at wootility

it may or may not have the features you want in a keyboard

especially if you like using macros

[gaunt flax]

Okay first proper gaming session on 540hz oled. It’s pretty ridiculous coming from 200hz

The clarity you get to micro adjust after you flick is crazy. It’s like that blurry segment when you move crosshair fast doesn’t exist

[lament siren]

what game did you play

[gaunt flax]

dusted off some comp valorant

it honestly feels really weird initially. Like it's too clear when you move and it feels like it's too clear 'too soon' after you flick

[wispy blaze]

You sound like your reading from a script😭

Bro shills atk more than I shill wlmouse

[crude talon]

🤖

[pure matrix]

mine jump from 60hz to 280 also feels incredible

[rain turret]

That was a response to Lumen about a cable, you and your friends need to touch grass and stop reading into things.

[lunar niche]

Telling this fella to touch grass is like telling water to get wet

[wispy blaze]

[silver topaz]

Lmaooo

[jolly pulsar]

Look you discredited yourself with your atk sponsor crap and your affiliate code

So obviously that leads to people being more critical of what you post

Don't blame us for your own actions :P

[lunar niche]

Sounds like this unc missed some drama!

[jolly pulsar]

You did

[heady crystal]

[lunar niche]

The surface of my mind is unperturbed and rippleless 🧘

[wispy hedge]

yes, love it

get the original one is my recommendation

[shell crater]

is this the owner

of keeb

hi mr Keebs

[wispy hedge]

[shell crater]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-pretty-boy-gif-8758885985331829534

[wispy hedge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1373116730322456648/1377055386317754543/attachment.gif

[shell crater]

jus because he answers me ill buy one

[wispy hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/chaeyoung-love-twicechaeyoung-twice-poppo-gif-21677707

:)

[quasi field]

I have a friend that is going to upgrade from a non-gaming laptop to a full blown gaming rig (good desktop PC + good monitor + good keyboard + good mouse). She is willing to pay a little bit and I recommended the Wooting 80HE to her which she might buy (I'm not a shill). What do you think is a good mouse to recommend to her? I don't really know anything about mice. She does not play FPS games so I doubt she cares about 30 gram fingertip mice. She probably just wants something good and ideally not very uncomfortable. Any ideas?

[shell crater]

@wispy hedge

@wispy hedge appreciate the tips

:3

[shell crater]

razer vp3, logitech, wlmouse, pulsar( ask her to go to best buy and test the mouse there also)

[mental spade]

Mice are pretty subjective what is comfortable for one person may not be comfortable for others

[quasi field]

I know. That's part of the problem. I have never seen a store that have a bunch of mice one can test

[shell crater]

best buy and micro centere

[quasi field]

At most there are 6 or 7 of them

[shell crater]

have some gaming mouse in the section test

[shell crater]

67?

https://tenor.com/view/cat-67-scp-67-funyuns-funny-gif-75413186200073602

[mental spade]

A lot of regular places will have Razer at least and microcenter has pulsar

[quasi field]

https://tenor.com/view/twdg-clementine-what-gif-12734530

[mental spade]

Could also look into vaxee or EGG

[shell crater]

logitech g pro is a good mice

[mental spade]

I think you can get better options for less money than a g pro

[shell crater]

op1 wireless

[quasi field]

Are they good all-rounders? What she ultimately just wants is a well-built non-experimental mouse that feels high quality and normal to use

[shell crater]

zowie also got mouse , cheap mouse pulsar is tha goat

[mental spade]

I'd say they are both pretty up there in quality, vaxee especially feels real nice build quality wise

And they don't do super light mice, because they want their mice to not loose that quality

[azure creek]

My OG razer naga from 2008 or something is dying, what mouse should I buy next? I don't play MMOs but I'm really used to the side buttons so I want a mouse with those. Should I take the naga V2 pro or something else?

[lunar niche]

I’d say razor viper v3 is hard to go wrong with

But I’m not some mouse maxxer

[azure creek]

Yeah but it doesn't have the buttons

[shell crater]

for solaria

for u furious if u like naga v2 then get it

[mental spade]

Not many mmo style mice on the market aside from Razer

[quasi field]

Me neither. I know very little about them

[lunar niche]

Oh I missed the need for lots of buttons

[shell crater]

or theres this mouse

[rain turret]

@quasi field ask her hand size, best to choose one based on that for comfort, shape can be roughly made out from either earlier experience or other users feedback if it would be good.

[shell crater]

i recommend viper v3 too for solaria

[quasi field]

That's the other guy. Not I

[shell crater]

@azure creek https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/find-similar?p=razer-naga-v2-hyperspeed

[rain turret]

i do have this, a true relic now

[azure creek]

So should I go with the naga V2 pro if I want the buttons or is there anything better?

[quasi field]

The Naga buttons always looked hard to press to me

It looks uncomfortable to use a mouse like that for MMOs

[rain turret]

It is very uncomfortable sadly

[quasi field]

Alright I will

[quasi field]

For MMOs I instead rebind keys like Q E R F Z X C V for extra abilities

[rain turret]

Same, i used a normal mouse for MMOs always and just keyboard bind

only two side buttons used on mouse

[plain schooner]

https://www.razer.com/gaming-mice/razer-naga-v2-pro?

[lunar niche]

If comfort is more of a desire the razer basilisk is very cozy with a nice sensor still. Just bigger and heavier as a trade off

[plain schooner]

One of the best scroll wheels ever

[rain turret]

Maybe have a look at Aerox 9, if many buttons are required, i think that would be more comfortable than the X15

[quasi field]

I might buy the Razer vertical

I forgot they made that. I already have the Logitech MX Vertical which is very comfy. The Razer is hopefully at the same comfort level but much better specs

Surprisingly it is even heavier than the Logitech

[rain turret]

How heavy?

[quasi field]

It's 150 g

[rain turret]

ouch

[quasi field]

The MX Vertical is in the 120s

Actually that doesn't look comfortable

The Vertical shape looks much more comfortable

[viscid bison]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBRAOsRuCNs maybe there's something here worth considering; me personally, I'm waiting for $10 mouses

an amazon banger

[fleet parcel]

Either the updated razer naga or Logicool (Logitech’s Japanese company) g600. Razer is easier to find. The g600 you have to get on eBay if you’re not in Japan.

[atomic lark]

I have it here, it's not bad, but I just couldn't be bothered to really get used to it, so I only use it to control a second PC sometimes

[obtuse dove]

I caved and got the Protocol Max, very impressive ngl.

[round lagoon]

Naisu, enjoy your dac!

[quasi field]

Omg clean your mousepad. It's been snowing on it

[obtuse dove]

they are very impresive, I'm hearing details that I wouldn't have otherwise heard out of my shitty laptop jack LMAO

[obtuse dove]

thats what happens when you dont use a lint free cloth to wipe your mousepad LMAO

there is a good reason why you should use a microfiber cloth to wipe down mousepads LMAO

[round lagoon]

For me, gonna get qx13 in 2 month. Got something else I want to spend my money on more

[obtuse dove]

it's honestly almost indistinguishable from my much more expensive desktop DAC that I use in my setup, it's super impressive!

[obtuse dove]

nice nice!

[obtuse dove]

I wonder if I can use the Protocol Max to torture some really shitty earphones

with Fetty Wap at max volume LMAO

[round lagoon]

Ehh, maybe?

[obtuse dove]

it probably wont burn them out, but it will make them bottom out LMAO

[thin blaze]

h5 flow 2024? same case i have

[thin blaze]

oh yea nzxt released the newer performance fans they look pretty hot u should check em out

[lunar holly]

Been wanting this ngl

Got the Moondrop Dawn Pro 2

[obtuse dove]

nice nice

I got the protocol max because of the built-in 10 band EQ

and ofc the high power output.

[lunar holly]

Yeah dawn pro 2 does the same thing as protocol but just performs a bit worse on the eq thing

And like a lil bit less power input

Same dac chip tho

[obtuse dove]

yeah

[lunar holly]

But I do want that 10 band eq tho ngl

And I was planning to buy the dawn pro 2 first

Test it out

Give it to my nephew for Christmas

Then buy myself the protocol

But I guess I gotta change some plans

[obtuse dove]

oop, lol

[cinder vault]

What headphones do y’all recommend for competitive gaming

[lament siren]

the ones that don't make you suffer with uncomfortable pain

[quasi field]

Sennheiser HD560S

[devout gale]

Hey guys, I was thinking of changing my mouse, honestly what do you think of the Leviathan V4?

Because we all agree that Wooting isn't planning on making mice for the time being, it's not planned?

[devout gale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/783426400899563600/1441690496316473344/image0.gif

[devout gale]

Knowing that I forgot to mention it, but I currently have the Razer Mamba Elite wired version as my mouse.

https://www.rawmshop.com/fr/products/leviathan-v4

[plain schooner]

If you like the shape

I like the Viper V3 Pro

[devout gale]

Well, I currently like the shape of my mouse, a Razer Mamba Elite, and honestly the Leviathan V4 doesn't look that different shape-wise.

[hazy fiber]

They're very different though

[plain schooner]

I'd go to the store and check out what they have on display, cause even the smallest difference in size can change how it feels imo

[devout gale]

Ah yeah, after that I confess, I don’t really have any experience because in itself it’s going to be my second real mouse.

We’ll say what I want is that I don’t want a mouse from a big brand like Ryzer or Logitech because I’m fed up with their software that’s heavy as hell and all. Moreover, I’m fed up with paying for the brand without necessarily a sign of quality at times.

[bronze salmon]

Yo guys planning on going for the smsl su-1 any thoughts or things to be aware of

Also its only the dac and nothing else im using the sennheiser momentum 4s with it anything else yall recommend getting with it for better quality?

[rain turret]

I bought an X1 V2 that i really liked, it's viper shape, have a look maybe.

[quasi field]

You need an amplifier to connect it to otherwise there won't be any audio

[bronze salmon]

Wait fr?

[quasi field]

Yes. There's no output for headphones on it

[bronze salmon]

I was just thinking of getting a rca to audiojack converter ngl

So your saying there wont be any audio if there is no amp correct? Im new to trying this stuff out so im sorry if its stupid questions

[quasi field]

Yes. The SU-1 cannot amplify to proper levels

[bronze salmon]

Any good recommendations of a good amp?

[quasi field]

Aren't the Momentum headphones wireless? Why get a discrete amplifier/dac?

[bronze salmon]

True they are wireless but since i normally use it for gaming and i love music i thought a dac can make the audio richer

[obtuse dove]

not in the case of wireless headphones

wireless headphones already have a DAC and AMP built-in

[bronze salmon]

Since it also has a 2.5mm audio jack

It bypasses the inbuilt dac and amp i presume

[obtuse dove]

no, not in the case of the sennheiser momentum 4

although only when they are turned off they will bypass iirc

when you turn them on they wont bypass

they are weird

[bronze salmon]

I guess your right but if im buying a dac i probably will use them off

And bluetooth for when i feel like i dont want a cable

[obtuse dove]

if that is the case, then it will be unlikely you will need an external dac/amp, these headphones have very very low impedance when bypassed

[bronze salmon]

Amp im guessing you mean

[quasi field]

But why do this

[bronze salmon]

Higher audio quality and lesser in game latency

[quasi field]

I doubt it would be noticeably higher

[bronze salmon]

Also cause my motherboard jacks are noisy as hell for some reason

[quasi field]

Why would they ship wireless headphones with audibly imperfect electronics

[bronze salmon]

The audio on bluetooth is great dont get me wrong

Its just i want to try a dac really

[quasi field]

Oh you're talking about that? That's such a minor difference even if you were able to distinguish lossy and lossless

[tribal shadow]

cause that costs money

[obtuse dove]

it is very likely you will not be able to hear a difference, esp if you are listening to lossy tracks like on spotify (it does have 'lossless' but windows does weird things to the signal but that is a different story)

[bronze salmon]

I see

So does windows not have like a passthrough option?

Or is it always gonna be lossy

[quasi field]

I doubt the amp/dac in it doesn't have an audibly flat frequency response or with audibly high distortion

[obtuse dove]

there are special DAC protocols that bypass the windows audio routing entirely but you need software and hardware that supports the protocol for it to work.

[bronze salmon]

Hmmm i see

The su-1 is a desktop dac so im guessing it should have something like that but ill check that out just to be safe

But about the amp is it useful for the momentum 4s? Since in passive its only got 60ohms impedance

[obtuse dove]

if you want bit-perfect truly lossless audio output you want a DAC and playback software that supports either ASIO or WASAPI, more specifically ones those can use that in exclusive mode.

[bronze salmon]

Ill have to check those out

Theres so much ive not explored yet its insane

Oh yea btw what you said is true but the thing is my pc supports onlt a2dp bluetooth format (idk if its changeable or not) and cuz of that its capped at 16bit (44khz i think)

My headphones do support uptill 24bit 96khz tho

[obtuse dove]

44kHz at 16bit resolution is perfectly sufficient for most multimedia consumption

[bronze salmon]

I agree but there is a significant difference from 16 to 24 atleast i felt that in music

[obtuse dove]

Like YouTube is like 16 bit 44.1kHz

Spotify is similar

[quasi field]

There's not. That's placebo

The difference is dynamic range (noise floor)

[bronze salmon]

Maybe but i mean if it feels right then it must be right yea?

[quasi field]

Not at all

[bronze salmon]

Aight but either way i do want to use it wired since there is latency in gaming in bluetooth noticeable for me

[obtuse dove]

No, in some cases it might actually make it worse because windows then has to resample the source to the output resolution and sample rate

If the source doesn't match the output

And that introduces stuff like artifacts and some loss in detail because of resampling

[bronze salmon]

Output as in your talking 24bit to 16bit since the a2dp drivers right?

[obtuse dove]

So if you're outputting like 192kHz at 24 bits but the source is 44.1kHz at 16 bits then windows has to resample that source so it can be played back at 192kHz at 24 bits

Which introduces loss in detail

[bronze salmon]

I had used lucent's free trial of their audio drivers in that it was working

[obtuse dove]

Driver doesn't matter when windows is handling the audio routing

[bronze salmon]

Hmm okay

Lemme do some research on that

[proper vector]

Your headphones may support 24 bit but they don't output it
Max we have right now is 21-bit in very precise medical instruments and ~19-bit in usual audio stuff

[bronze salmon]

I see

[quasi field]

Audio dacs can do over 20 bit

But of course it doesn't matter at all

[obtuse dove]

I mean, you can get DAC chips that output 24-bit/192kHz but they consume a ton of power

Deffo not suitable in wireless headphones

[quasi field]

I don't know a single one that can reach 24 bit

[proper vector]

I mean there's physically no consumer chip yet which can do more that 21-bit on voltage that's about line voltage

2^21 is 2097152 different states, it's impressive in itself

[quasi field]

@bronze salmon I recommend doing ABX tests using the Foobar2k plugin just to see how you cannot distinguish 16 bit to 24 bit and very high sample rates. It's humbling and an important step to prevent yourself from wasting time/resources on things that make no audible difference

[proper vector]

16/44.1 is enough

[quasi field]

Absolutely. Unless your dac has an impressibly terrible reconstruction filter which in most cases it does not

[obtuse dove]

I agree

Cauz 90% of content out there is 16 bit at 44.1kHz

Saves windows audio routing the headache of having to resample all the time too!

[quasi field]

There's not really music above 20 kHz anyway even if you can hear that high

It would just be noise

[bronze salmon]

I see

[bronze salmon]

How would it work if my windows format is set at 16bit 44khz tho

It wont go higher cause of the a2dp bluetooth driver

[quasi field]

Then it won't

[bronze salmon]

I had used a third party audio driver that had 24bit 44khz audio format but it was only a 7 days free period during that time i did find a small yet noticeable difference in audio quality

So one way to get around that is a dac atleast im guessing or a dongle that they provide but i think dac would be good cuz i can use it for other speakers in the future if i think of buying (also ill buy a amp in future if needed)

[quasi field]

Almost certainly placebo or something else making the sound different

It's very easy to think all kinds of things makes sound different, but when blind testing it usually goes away

[bronze salmon]

Maybe the corp had added a eq in it?

[quasi field]

Corp?

[bronze salmon]

Idk just random conclusions since brain is shutting off its 12:30 am for me

[quasi field]

The audible difference you'd hear with higher bitrate would be a lower noise floor

You have to play ungodly loud to reach the noisefloor of 16 bit

[bronze salmon]

Interestin

[quasi field]

https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

[bronze salmon]

Would it be better to get a dac when i get better wired headphones then?

[silver topaz]

Yep

[bronze salmon]

That makes sense yea

Any recommendations

Primarily for music listening

Secondary for gaming

[proper vector]

FiiO
Pick whichever you like how it looks and in preferred price bracket

[quasi field]

Sennheiser HD560S + EQ

[silver topaz]

I was just about to say the 560 lmaooo

[proper vector]

Oh, headphones not DAC

[bronze salmon]

Ive been getting the HD560S recommended left and right

Insane

[silver topaz]

I'm debating on picking up a set of the 660s2's rn, need to wait for next paycheck haha

[bronze salmon]

Im suprised on the price difference

They are relatively cheaper than i expected i wonder why bluetooth is more expensive

[quasi field]

Wireless means more technology. But also pricing can be very random

Nothing about $2000 Hifiman headphones justify their price. They price them high to give a sense of upgrade of quality

[proper vector]

Wireless means black magic
You can't transmit electrons via air, air is an insulator
That's why I don't trust Bluetooth

[deep hawk]

I make sure to insulate all of my hats with aluminum foil

[bronze salmon]

I see

[deep hawk]

I don't trust Big Tin

[quasi field]

Wireless is really great technology. Most headphone innovation these days is in wireless ANC headphones

[bronze salmon]

Genuinely ANC was the first reason i bought the momentum 4s

Supposedly everyone loves talking to eachother in screams

[quasi field]

ANC is extremely nice. Especially nowadays

[bronze salmon]

Can agree

[quasi field]

Wish my headset had ANC

Blocking outside noise can be one of the biggest increases to sound quality

[bronze salmon]

Some headphones do ANC bad tho like sometimes feel like it muddies

[quasi field]

That's just the headset having bad tuning

[bronze salmon]

Like i remember my sister had some jbl headphones they didnt do anc justice but again anc was new that time so meh

[bronze salmon]

Exactly

[quasi field]

I remember my first ANC headset had very audible ANC (sounds like a very high noisefloor). But they have gotten much better at it

Nowadays I prefer ANC in almost every situation unless your room is very quiet anyway

[bronze salmon]

I guess since it was new it was not the best

But the anc now is so good

Like im sitting with my friends on dc and they screaming about my background and im just chilling like what sound?

[quasi field]

I watched an Airpods Max review by an «audiophile» () a long time ago and I believe he said that it's inherently not an audiophile headset (or hi-fi?) because it's ANC which is a really dumb thing to say. ANC is great for sound quality in many situations that will be worse without it

[bronze salmon]

I turn off noise supression just to annoy em

[bronze salmon]

ANC can be turned off tho what was he on about?

One thing about anc tho is your ears start hurting after long uses (over 4hours for me)

[quasi field]

I'm not aware of such a thing for the Airpods Max aside from turning on transparency mode but that would be silly to use indoors

ANC headsets sound terrible in passive mode since they rely on EQ and therefore rely on being turned on

Look at blue here for example

(idk how to turn ANC off on it)

[bronze salmon]

Not sure of the airpods max myself too but on sennheiser's you can turn it off

[bronze salmon]

Ouch

[quasi field]

But I assume they are still running wireless when ANC is off? So still powered on

[bronze salmon]

Yup

[lament siren]

any headphone recommendations that isn't hd560s ?

[bronze salmon]

Hd660s

Im not the best person to ask for this stuff tbf

[lament siren]

don't you own a wireless mouse ?

[bronze salmon]

A traitor

Wait a minute

But bluetooth works on radiowaves not electrons what

[proper vector]

I have wired DAv3

[lament siren]

ima just buy steelseries headphones because of the dual band and the comfort and upset everyone here

[bronze salmon]

Is your choice in the end

[lament siren]

I miss my razer viper ultimate so much

https://tenor.com/view/it-was-perfect-gif-15232884745301549452

[bronze salmon]

Razer viper mouses are just so flingable ya know

[quasi field]

They are just genuinely great, found everywhere, comfortable and reasonably priced

[bronze salmon]

Idk reminds me of holding a shawarma for some reason which doesn't make sense

[lament siren]

they're not bad for the value but comfort wise after wearing it for months its not for me

and IEMs aren't an option

[bronze salmon]

Any head dents?

[quasi field]

What do you dislike? The clamp?

[lament siren]

Not yet but do you want one

[lament siren]

yeah the clamp

[quasi field]

You can loosen the clamp

[bronze salmon]

Already have one thats why im autistic

[lunar niche]

HD 490 or 600

[bronze salmon]

Jk headphones too weak for my massive forehead

[lament siren]

how swae

[bronze salmon]

Its all hds

🥀

[lament siren]

thats it

I'll just buy loud speakers and have open mic

make everyone suffer in multiplayer games

[bronze salmon]

Echos boutta sound godly im guessing

"Xbox turn off" meme

[quasi field]

Loudspeakers are godlike but there is so much you need to do to get them as good or better than good headphones

[lunar niche]

Oh are you concerned about sound leaking?

[quasi field]

Swae?

[lunar niche]

Yeah, plus for competitive gaming I still kinda prefer headphones

[lament siren]

its Kanye meme

how you loosening the clamp

🤨

[lunar niche]

On the Senns?

[lament siren]

No I want my teammates to suffer

[lament siren]

yeah soria said it could been done

[quasi field]

Never done it myself but I think what people do is find an object slightly wider than your head (box, books etc.) that you place them on overnight and they loosen

[lunar niche]

Eh I've tried by putting them around a basketball or a big set of books, but every attempt has been temporary.

The 490 and 600 (and 800) were never particularly tight for me though - unlike the HD25-2 and HD6XX which I do find uncomfortably tight.

[lament siren]

bruh

[quasi field]

800 was too loose for me. Felt bad on my head

[lament siren]

I been wearing the headphones for months

so the break in time should be done

but still have issues with the headphones

[lunar niche]

Yeah I agree they have the opposite issue, being a bit too loose

[bronze salmon]

Senns are tight in the start but after a while of using they feel normal

[lunar niche]

They do also get better as pads break in since

[bronze salmon]

Or my brain is turning in

[abstract warren]

gotta watch out for that dent

[bronze salmon]

Either works

[quasi field]

That's why I said wider than your head

[lament siren]

https://tenor.com/view/dented-head-head-smile-gif-12205170

[bronze salmon]

I actually do need some good speakers to go with my pc

Btw are they any audiojack cables that are like vibration resistant or something

[quasi field]

Vibration? How hard will it vibrate lol

[bronze salmon]

Since i guess most of the noise im hearing could just be the fans in my pc

I got 10 fans in it

[quasi field]

Yeah

I'm changing my build out for something ultra noise optimised since I use speakers

[lament siren]

jakuDent

[quasi field]

I want the PC to be completely inaudible at my listening position even when playing games

[bronze salmon]

Fan speed controller?

[quasi field]

Yes of course they will all run slowly

[bronze salmon]

Man why didn't i think of it before

That makes such alotta sense why it was so noisy

[vital gorge]

Pc under the desk?

[devout gale]

By the way guys, I saw you were talking about headsets. Me, I’d like to change my headset. So I currently have the Sennheiser PCX 38 and I’d like to replace it with the Sennheiser HDB 630 for my computer and, at the same time, let’s say, be able to have a wireless headset when I go to the gym or something. Knowing that when I use it on my computer, I plan to use type C to avoid latency, etc. What do you think? Knowing that I know that it’s not the same headset profile as, for example, the PCX 38 is more of a headset made for FPS due to its open design and better sound precision for footsteps. But I want a headset a bit more general and which will be mainly based for listening to music. So, I’d like your opinion on this, what will you think of it?

[lament siren]

you hate the pcx38 ? Heard they're very good

[devout gale]

No, I never said I hated it. It’s just that I wanted to move on. Otherwise, I find this headset really incredible. It’s currently the best headset I’ve ever had in my life.

[quasi field]

The biggest problem they have is high distortion imo

[devout gale]

What headphones are you talking about?

[quasi field]

PCX38

Though you'll only hear the distortion if you EQ the bass up and play loudly

[devout gale]

Personally, I didn’t modify the EQ, I kept it original. That being said, it’s true that I already tried once to modify it a little bit but I didn’t really like the final rendering because we ended up having, like you tell me, distortions. So I really prefer, honestly, the original. But it’s true that even keeping it original, when sometimes I play, for example, a car game or whatever, and sometimes the engine gets too much in the bass or whatever, sometimes it tends to a little bit smother the mids and highs. Which means sometimes I don’t hear my music while I’m playing car games. Okay, after that it’s maybe a bit of a specific case, but in any case, for example, for Assetto Corsa Competition, depending on which cars we play, it can really smother certain frequencies or certain things. I’m thinking particularly with the LEXUS GT3 car, the RC F in particular, for those who play car games, you’ll see.

[obtuse dove]

Or the DAC will start clipping because it's just that loud lmao.

If you EQ too aggressively your pre-amplification will be so low that you'll barely hear anything lol

And it's not like you can just increase the pre-amp either because you'll start clipping your DAC.

[quasi field]

Power issues

[silver topaz]

Has anyone tried the fosi dac/amps? Looks super nice with the all aluminum

[obtuse dove]

Literally LMAO

[lunar niche]

This image has affected me more than any other this week.

[obtuse dove]

ROFL

[lament siren]

if i could I would have bought the pcx38 over hd560s but it was hard to buy in my area and didn't feel like paying usa tariffs for it

[devout gale]

Personally, it’s a person who had recommended it to me on reddit and I had bought them on amazon so they were still available but I had a problem with the wheel on the side of the headset and so amazon couldn’t replace it for me so actually they offered me a refund and then so for the same price I bought it again on the direct site of the manufacturer but it’s true that now on amazon and everything it’s more complicated to have them or to find them anyway new or whatever. But that now, I think, if I’m not talking bullshit, it’s discontinued.

[cerulean stratus]

5090 9800x3d 64gb ddr5 5tb or 4090 7800x3d 128gb ddr5? Getting the ram second hand and if go for 5090 gpu as well

[rain turret]

👈

[heady zenith]

how is 128gb ram even a consideration? like what do you do that would need the ram

[lament siren]

bort nite battle pass

[lament siren]

whats the psu ?

[heady zenith]

300w so the pc uses less energy

[lament siren]

[heady zenith]

energy companies hate this one trick

[crude talon]

should get one of those 150w from a dell prebuilt
Save some money for the rest of the components

[lament siren]

big brain Tony for a reason

🙂‍↕️

[wet coral]

im sure you can just download more ram

[ocean saddle]

Need it for all the Aiaiaiaiai

[graceful thorn]

Set your cpu speed to 10 ghz but the voltage to 0, it makes it go super fast but there no electricity to get converted to heat

[devout gale]

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-9403556598434283568

[obtuse dove]

why 128gb of RAM? I mean I have 128GB of RAM but I actually use it for what I do.

[ocean saddle]

And most people don't need it

[obtuse dove]

I agree, LMAO

[heady zenith]

hence my confusion

64gb i kinda got before the price jump since the price wasnt too far off 32gb

but 128gb is just throwing money out if you dont need it

[ocean saddle]

Yeah

[obtuse dove]

yeah, also doesnt help that most 128gb kits are 4 channel and reduces your memory speed on most AM5 cpus like 9800X3D

now my 128gb kit is 2 channel but it was more expensive than the 4 channel kits.

[lament siren]

bortnite

[obtuse dove]

Fortnite can't even max out 16 gigs my boy

[heady zenith]

editing my 32k fortnite clips

[lament siren]

I know

[obtuse dove]

You'd run out of video memory before you can even reach 4k LMAO

[crude talon]

ai upscaling my clips to 32k

[lament siren]

usually the same type of people wanting that type of build

[obtuse dove]

Well, except me, because I actually need 128gb of memory

I've maxed it out a few times

[lament siren]

" I need the 5090 cuz my favorite bork knife streamer has that build"

[obtuse dove]

90% of people don't need a 5090

[lament siren]

very true

[obtuse dove]

If you play games I would really only consider it if you have like a 4k 240Hz OLED or something

[heady zenith]

32 5090s as well

[obtuse dove]

I hope you realize that the Vegas sphere is like 16k and needs 150 A6000 GPUs to run.

So if you want 32K you need like 1000 5090s to run such a resolution at a decent frame rate

[heady zenith]

yeah but thats prob cause they have 2billion screens

ltt already did 16k with less

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Toft6fMvByA

[obtuse dove]

True

[crude talon]

but i need 2 billion screens to play fartntie

[lament siren]

I like how he never mentioned what psu he was getting

😭

[ocean saddle]

150W should be good enough

[crude talon]

yeah no need to go overkill

keep the build reasonable

[ocean saddle]

Yes save some moneyyss

[twilit flame]

Yeah 150 bronze will be perfect

[rain turret]

If saving money is the goal, eat less.
Can confirm works from experience.

[fleet parcel]

Or hunt, fish, and homestead farm.

[runic tiger]

i also like the more agresive looks of it

[wet coral]

the 2 mice i have currently in rotation

[runic tiger]

less like a potato XD

[graceful thorn]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/w6g63w

i know what im spending my 401k on

[runic tiger]

ts is crazy

[wet coral]

48gb of ram is 680$ 💀

also thats a fuckton of storage

[graceful thorn]

[mental spade]

Rtings 3d scan is more handy for really getting the shape https://www.rtings.com/mouse/tools/3d-model-shape-compare/3d/razer-viper-v3-pro-vs.-logitech-g-pro-x-superlight-2

[wet coral]

25.5k pc 💀

[frigid ivy]

The potato still has the best battery life, anyone dethrone it in that reguard yet?

[mental spade]

eloshapes is good for general size but shape it has baited so many people

[graceful thorn]

its fiiiineeee

[frigid ivy]

yeah those profile have so many blind spots lol

[graceful thorn]

great for my 30hz 720p monitors!

[wet coral]

the superlights side buttons are so disgustingly mushy

[graceful thorn]

i play minecraft bedrock a lot

sometimes roblox

so i definitely need this pc

[frigid ivy]

they are, but just usable enough for me

[graceful thorn]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/39pKmC

i learned that my last pc could have been overpriced

so i made an even more affordable one

wait

i need to update it

better ssds were released

[wet coral]

131k

[graceful thorn]

dw soon it will cost even more!

[frigid ivy]

I haven't had the need to upgrade for a while now

[wet coral]

what does bro need all this storage for

[frigid ivy]

5800X3D still going strong

[wet coral]

single handedly destroying the storage market

how are you even using 50+ nvme drives

[obtuse dove]

a single GPU costs more than that!

[frigid ivy]

would need a HEDT motherboard with several bifurcation adapter cards

[graceful thorn]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6PWpZc

[frigid ivy]

this can hold 21 nvme

https://www.apexstoragedesign.com/products-listing/apex-x21-gen4

[graceful thorn]

ik im using those

2 rtx 6000 blackwell

[wet coral]

4k a pop 😭

[graceful thorn]

almost a petabyte of storage

60% gen 4, 40% gen 5

2 tb of ram

96 cores

192 threads

worth it?

[obtuse dove]

i've used more powerful and more expensive systems, it depends!

[wet coral]

13.39 per gb of ram

nevermind it lines up with $680 for 48gbs 💀

[crude talon]

can I haggle 2 cents per gig

[rain turret]

@runic tiger whats your current?

[runic tiger]

pc?

or mice

[rain turret]

mouse

[runic tiger]

razer viper v3 pro

[rain turret]

i see i see

[runic tiger]

this is a one heck of a mouse

just amazing

[rain turret]

you have medium to large hands then right?

[runic tiger]

idk

[rain turret]

likely

[obtuse dove]

although this kind of reminds me of the Nvidia DGX system which is an all-in-one drop-in desktop replacement which has a GB300 Blackwell Ultra GPU with a Grace CPU, it even runs it's own custom OS called DGX OS.

[rain turret]

seems in that ballpark yeah, viper is for that range

[obtuse dove]

and Dell shoved the entire system into an Alienware Area-51 case with some generic dell branding lmao

[runic tiger]

ngl i gotta delete this picks

but yeah its the perfect size for me

[urban granite]

@wet coral picking up vv3p

[wet coral]

[urban granite]

just for the feels

who knows i might end up liking it

[plain schooner]

You will trust

@wet coral plays games for fun that’s why they don’t use their VV3P anymore

If you like winning you’ll enjoy it

[wet coral]

im using my vv3p rn in val

what are you yapping about

[plain schooner]

No wonder you been getting out of bronze

[wet coral]

technically im worse rn

viper v3 pro has not let me hit my peak rank yet

[plain schooner]

Imagine they release the viper mini signature editions 2 and it’s only like a run of 100

[wet coral]

razer copies finalmeme

[viscid bison]

just get the Huan, it's a viper with a dongle you can talk to in mandarin ni hao ma 🤭

[wet coral]

say cao ni ma to it

[viscid bison]

[wet coral]

it means your mom is beautiful trust

[urban granite]

has anyone had experience with yuki aim glasspads?

[round lagoon]

In one of the audio store in Kuala Lumpur

[lunar niche]

https://tenor.com/view/take-my-money-heres-my-card-here’s-my-card-card-take-my-card-gif-5650338825958178904

Enjoy those 800s

[wet coral]

[round lagoon]

Noh, i already have hd490 pro that can turn into fake 800s with a simple reduction in bass

[round lagoon]

The snow sky wind my friend requested me to buy for him

Same unit i demo, and it sounds pretty nice. Just gotta update the firmware when back at home.

[round lagoon]

Gave this like 4 hour listening test in 2 different store before getting it.

[proper vector]

1.8W on 4.4

[round lagoon]

Makes alba sounds less shouty/distorted at the high, makes Divine sounds less metallic, and generally improves hd490 without changing anything.

[proper vector]

Mucho expensivo

[round lagoon]

O fuck, i thought 900mw on balanced

Like 450+450. Ehh, doesn't matter.

Still, endgame dac.

[proper vector]

https://tenor.com/view/boom-cat-gif-1657764219303897241

So it's just KA17 2.0 with nicer screen and more power, okay

[round lagoon]

I tried the ka17, on some song with hd490 it's kinda off to me.

Haven't tried the ka15 and lower

[bronze salmon]

Yo

So was definitely not a good idea to be chatting here yesterday and answering an exam today

But besides that

Meh i forgot what i was gonna say

[proper vector]

How did exam go?

[bronze salmon]

Well i didnt know a single thing

Went well tho

[proper vector]

[bronze salmon]

Managed to copy the entire question paper

[silver topaz]

What class?

[obtuse dust]

is it worth it to upgrade my razer deathadder v3 to viper v3 pro and will i even notice it on a 60 hz monitor

[rain turret]

Probably not

[crude talon]

put that money towards a monitor that isn't 60Hz

[rigid dagger]

My Framework 16 is shipping soon!

[bronze salmon]

12th

[round lagoon]

Naisu

[rigid dagger]

ty

i am a bit anxious though, it's the first laptop i ever bought

[round lagoon]

Lmao. You'll be alright, though 16 seems a bit large

[rigid dagger]

i wanted something that could run single core CPU-bound games well, 3D games decently, and still followed the philosophy of PC DIY modularity/R2R/Control

i had to buy it sooner because of the RAM prices, managed to secure a unit before laptop RAM prices started to increase

[round lagoon]

Very nice

That's super lucky lmao

[past dome]

Framework is one of the best options

[obtuse dove]

Epyc, what config?

[obtuse dove]

Depends on who you ask but for the right person it's great!

I personally did not like framework 16

[past dome]

At least there's some innovation in the laptop industry

[vital gorge]

high price of entry. more affordable upgrades. generally underperforming. that the framework 16 for me

[past dome]

Portability is the point of a laptop, so I don't understand why 18in laptops even exists lmao

[obtuse dove]

ngl I think Apple is leading the way of Laptop innovation

super powerful but efficient silicon, excellent battery life, exceptional build qualtiy. and an OS that doesnt shove AI into your face.

[past dome]

I guess $800 for a ram upgrade doesn't look all that bad now...

[lunar niche]

A "desktop replacement" is often big and powerful and not intended to be easily portable, but still more so than an actual desktop setup.

I've never had a need for one myself but it sorta makes sense

[past dome]

Itx just wins tho

[heady zenith]

@white shoal your review of your framework?

[obtuse dove]

even then the upgrade prices are pretty expensive

like 800 dollars for a laptop 5070 is insane

it's not even one that can reash it's full power either

laptop 5070 can go up to 115W

[white shoal]

Honestly wish I had gotten a thinkpad

"Why do big laptops exist" is a funny remark lol, i don't need to pull it out on a whim, I need to transport it long distances and have minimal setup. That's what it's for

[jolly pulsar]

I feel like price wise it makes more sense

I like the framework from a oh it's repairable thing but price/value wise it's a tough sell

[white shoal]

Thinkpads are pretty repairable!

[obtuse dove]

thing is you dont need thick laptops to get good performance anymore, like the 2024/2025 ROG Zephyrus G16/G14

[jolly pulsar]

THat too

[white shoal]

Framework tries to make "repairable" laptops look sleek like a macbook but it turns out I personally want my laptop to be as opposite to a macbook as possible!

[white shoal]

How is that a counter to what I said :p

[jolly pulsar]

I mean realistically

Are you ever gonna swap out the modules?

Or anything really?

Like its all hypotheticals

Who knows what things will be like lets say 5 years from now

[obtuse dove]

like, powerful thin and light laptops exist, the 3 inch thick gaming laptops are barely any better than the thinner ones. so why get the chonkers anymore.

[jolly pulsar]

Tmw my only laptop is an old gtx 970m laptop with a damaged hinge what i repaired with a random screw and a piece of tape

xD

I just use my desktop for everything

[white shoal]

My 2011 thinkpad I found in a dumpster got me thru uni and still works good

[jolly pulsar]

It did get me through college/uni

[jolly pulsar]

Exactly for laptop things

Like

Why would you need more

[white shoal]

Well works good is relative

I don't think it would handle my daily workload

[obtuse dove]

I unfortunately need a decently powerful laptop for uni. 😭

Big solidworks assemblies need competent hardware to be able to work with them.

[white shoal]

My framework barely can

Which is surprising

And that is my framework review LOL

[jolly pulsar]

I mean hey my laptop was a killer laptop back in the day for uni i7 5700HQ 16gb of ram and a 970m

Xd

[obtuse dove]

lo, dont even get me started with the simulations

Ansys Fluent will not run on my laptop

ROFL

it will eat the 32gb of RAM before you even run any analysis

so anytime I want to do any static analysis I always use my desktop for that.

[vital gorge]

Ohno, ec2 memory prices will rise as well

[rigid dagger]

Ryzen AI 7 350 + Radeon RX 7700S + 2x16GB DDR5-5600

[vital gorge]

Oof, for that price you can get an hp g1a

[obtuse dove]

Niceeee

[rigid dagger]

but is it repairable and upgradeable

and does it have an AMD DGPU

[rigid dagger]

ty

[vital gorge]

I wonder how the 7700s compare to the 8060s

OK 8060s is much better. And thats even a igpu

[round lagoon]

Hmm, i kinda wanna bet that next year there's going to be a lot of IEM with the same treble tuning as Dunu Brain dance, and Hype 4 mk2.

Like, JM1 kinda done to death and the only other thing I rarely see of is the high but straight treble with no massive and wide dip.

[quasi field]

Damn impressive result here

[round lagoon]

Damn

Eq monster

[wild condor]

any mice recommendations? looking at the gpx2 but heard some people have issues with it spinning

[wet coral]

if you want something thats the same size, razer viper v3 pro, wlmouse beastx, pulsar x2 crazylight medium

logitech mice in the big 25 is 💀

[urban granite]

don’t listen to him

logitech mice are fine

is just preference

[lament siren]

I want headphones that will fix the head dent

but they gotta look tuff

[wet coral]

not really for the price theyre selling it for

[viscid bison]

there ya go, that's settled

[urban granite]

we can say the same for viper now can’t we🥀

[lament siren]

this ain't tuff

is this from your personal collection ?

[wet coral]

i wouldnt buy either at full price, even if both were discounted to the same price id pick the razer
i hate how ghub works and at least synapse is functional

[viscid bison]

yes, it's a collectors item and locked away for good

[lament siren]

hell yeah

[urban granite]

wows im the complete oppsite lmfaooo

i fucking hate razxer synapse

and from my personally experince synapse is barely functional compared to ghub

[round lagoon]

Fugaku iem

[lament siren]

https://tenor.com/view/you-know-ball-magic-you-know-ball-ykb-magic-ykb-gif-25740660

for 17k I better hear the voices from the angels

all the way up from heaven

[wet coral]

give me a reason why i cant change on board profiles on my mouse while having on board memory mode on

[urban granite]

??? thats just a you issue brother

ion got a problem with that

[wet coral]

ill have to disable that, change the desktop profile and then reload that

[urban granite]

tell me why my settings never save on synaspes....

tell me why my frames is always shit when synaspes in on the background...

[wet coral]

it does for me

[urban granite]

exactly

everyone got thy own issues

[wet coral]

dont need to have it on in the background

[urban granite]

well if my settings dont save imma need it to be in the background

[wet coral]

its for sure a me issue when its across 4 different logitech mice on 5 different computers...

[urban granite]

wow u must be balling to have 5 different computers

just get 5 more mouses and 5 more computers

[wet coral]

old pc, my laptop, brothers laptop, my pc, my brothers pc

1 g502, 3 superlights

[urban granite]

unlucky you then

i got 2 superlights and they are perfectly fine

i ordered the v2 pro back then twice and both times one of the m1 or m2 buttons were muddy

we all got our issues

you got your bad experince with logi, i got mines with razer

[wet coral]

all side buttons on gpx are mushy

[urban granite]

really? im using one rn and its fine

odd?

[wet coral]

mushy compared to the other mice i have

besides the scroll wheel being absoute garbage tier with no dust proofing, its one of the things i hate the most on the gpx

[urban granite]

😂 thats funny cause i really hate how razer scroll wheel is designed /feel

[wet coral]

at least itd still be useable
gpx becomes ewaste as soon as a spec of dust gets into it if you dont have soldering stuff

[urban granite]

chat is this real?

ive been using my mouse for 3 years and it works fine

are you geeked 😭

i guess my room just hella clean, not saying its not

[wet coral]

ive also had mine for 3 years and got 2 warranty replacements because of that common issue

[urban granite]

wow! also a problem i never had

[wet coral]

one of the replacements has a creaking shell

[urban granite]

you must be a really unlucky person

[wet coral]

[urban granite]

[wet coral]

sure, you might not get it but its still a very common problem with gpx's
my friend also got this with his but its out of warranty now

[urban granite]

wow! a problem i havent gotten with my old and new gpx, i must be really lucky

i should buy the powerball

id probably win it

[wet coral]

yeah you should

[urban granite]

youre right

generation wealth

[round lagoon]

You should demo fiio qx13 someday. Like holy shit it's soo nice

[wet coral]

amp dac.... with a screen..

ah yes

[round lagoon]

Yesh. I mean, it's one way to switch between eq while knowing which is which

[wet coral]

i dont eq

[round lagoon]

Try it~ it's one way to know what's your sound preferences

That makes buying your end game easirr

[wet coral]

i already like the astrals out of the box and i dont plan to spend more than $300 on a pair of earbuds

[round lagoon]

You'll never know

[wet coral]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-meme-cat-gif-23917781

[round lagoon]

Actually, end game doesn't have to cost $500+. If anything, end game could be just $200

[wet coral]

welllllllllllllllllllllllllllll astrals are out of return window so im stuck with them
i could resell them but i imagine im not gaining any meaningful value back

as i already bought them on sale

[round lagoon]

It's alright.

[urban granite]

you planning to get the WLMOUSE haun? or whatever its called?

[wet coral]

why would i

small mouse weighs almost as much as the vv3p, off by 3g

[urban granite]

dunno, just asking

[wet coral]

it looks to be too similar of a shape of a mouse i already have

[urban granite]

okay

good to know

[wet coral]

and a lot cheaper too

[urban granite]

thats great

[urban granite]

are you comparing it to the hitscan?

if you are... its only a $15 ish difference... I wouldn't consider that " a lot" cheaper

but thats just me

[wet coral]

huh?

hitscan is sub $100 and the huan is $155

thats a pretty big difference if you ask me

[urban granite]

wtf am i looking at

[urban granite]

mb thats on me, i was looking at the crazylight 😂

[urban granite]

you gotta buy the dongle seperately?

[wet coral]

useable without it

it comes with a 1k dongle

[urban granite]

i personally wouldnt call a $40 difference "alot" either

maybe cheaper but not drastically

[wet coral]

when youre spending 40 more per mice it adds up

just buying 2, thats $80

3, its $120
etc

[urban granite]

welp cant really apply that since all mouse gonna be different price anyway

[wet coral]

sure, most mice are priced around the 130-160 range

[urban granite]

[urban granite]

i meannn if you already bought like 5 logi mouses, wouldnt hurt to get another mouse thats "similar" to the one you already have to try right

[wet coral]

i didnt buy 5

i bought 2

and 2 more were warranty replacements

[urban granite]

mb 😔

[wet coral]

across all the mice i have, theyre all different shapes
sure you can say that the vv3p and superlight are similar but the rear hump being lower is a game changer on the vv3p imo

[urban granite]

ion rememeber saying they the similar

[patent patrol]

https://news.lgdisplay.com/en/2025/12/lg-display-unveils-worlds-first-240hz-rgb-stripe-oled-panel/

about time

[gaunt flax]

oh that's cool

so probably another year or two until the 1440p 480/500hz rgb panel version

[patent patrol]

i have hope for next year

unless they do the "show at CES - give panel to other companies first - release own model at the end of the year" move again

after this what could u even need anymore

bit more refreshrate sure

but pc hardware limiting that kinda

[gaunt flax]

i assume it'll take time to trickle over to the other resolutions and higher framerates, so it'd be like 240hz first then 360 then 480hz like what happened with the other oled options

[heady crystal]

TV panels that are 4K240 when? Need that high refresh rate OLED TV in time for HDMI 2.2 devices.

[patent patrol]

i mean this one already does 1080p 480hz

[gaunt flax]

Yeah but no 1440p 240/360 yet, and normally they do it step by step where it goes up in steps for 1440 and 4k

I assume even if they launch 1440p 240 next year that it’ll take time to go up to 480hz again

[patent patrol]

i would expect the other usual ones to release soonish too

maybe 1440p high end might take longer

if they wanna reach higher refreshrate again

and not be too close to their recent 540hz one

[quasi field]

If I didn't already have a 4k oled this would be what I'd look at (but of course always wait for reviews)

[hot garden]

What better beast x max or viper v3 pro. Right now i use claw grip i just dont know what good

[abstract warren]

Both are good mice, I’d compare them on rtings and see which you think you’d like more

https://www.rtings.com/mouse/tools/compare/razer-viper-v3-pro-vs-wlmouse-beast-x-max/59884/62242

[abstract warren]

The TL;DR is they’re both similar shapes, each with their own intrinsic differences, I’d pick whichever you’re more comfortable with, isn’t a wrong pick between them.

[lament siren]

Mr beast mouse by Mr beast

https://tenor.com/view/hehehe-mrbeast-mr-beast-gif-12965960423730225064

[abstract warren]

This is the only wrong option

[lament siren]

you just mad unc Mr beast giving away 500,000 Mr beast mice to every bort nite gamer who likes and subscribe to his most recent video

https://tenor.com/view/mr-beast-mr-least-mr-beast-russian-mrleast-mrbeast-gif-7097767368841845438

[abstract warren]

AI has gone too far

wtf is this

😭😭😭😭

[hazy fiber]

it's real

[lament siren]

you right mb I'll stop with the brain rot

[abstract warren]

I’m mad I gotta see that dog shit prime drink in every gas station

[lament siren]

I will never drink that nasty ass shit

too many sheep run to buy that battery acid of a drink

[lament siren]

Mr beast Jr

[abstract warren]

It’s actually everywhere

[lament siren]

I know im glad the drink has bright colored bottles. Its like a construction road signs letting me know to avoid those people like the plague

[abstract warren]

Poisonous frog edition

[round lagoon]

just back home, setup upgraded

oh yeah, since my dac cost more than both of my IEM (Meze alba and 7hz Divine), I think I gotta get an IEM that cost at least 2x as the dac.

I mean, I already planned to, just got distracted with my other interest.

[bitter sapphire]

Time to order a custom iem

[round lagoon]

aint no way I can get custom with just $450

Fuck, this dac is soo goooood. I thought I'm done with audio, but apparently not.

[obtuse dove]

So, I uhhh, I got the blue 2

[obtuse dove]

No bro, the GOAT of all DAC and amp combos for most desk setups is the JDS Labs Element IV

[round lagoon]

Maybe when I got Meze Empyrean 2, then I consider.

[obtuse dove]

I have the old ass K240 that are 600 ohms and are a bitch to drive, but the element is able to do it!

[wet coral]

mfw that costs the same as the price i paid for my astrals

[round lagoon]

I mean, it's not as much as I how I paid for the figurine just above

[obtuse dove]

Although I did get them off FB marketplace for 50 bucks! So it was worth it!

[crude talon]

cute

[obtuse dove]

The guy thought they didn't work because you can't hear anything out of them when you plug them into a normal audio jack, but they just need a shit ton of power

[wet coral]

do you know if its real carbon fiber

[round lagoon]

I got the titanium gold ver

I don't want CF

also the dac apparently could support ASIO due to it using the same usb chip as JDS Element IV.

[wet coral]

why is the cf one more

[obtuse dove]

Niceee

[quasi field]

My 8 year old cousin just said 6 7. Christmas is over

[lunar niche]

Write them out of your headphone will

[obtuse dove]

https://tenor.com/view/67-fastest-pass-out-worlds-fastest-fast-gif-15451863430359439292

[crude talon]

heard a few kids saying those numbers on the subway when i was visiting the capital

[round lagoon]

Got it to work!

Now my PC is more rhythm gaming ready.

[quasi field]

This looks like one of those Mr. Beast giveaway Discord scams

[crude talon]

looks kinda like i busted all over the screen

its just fingerprints though swear

[plain schooner]

Wrong

It’s the Schiit stack

[obtuse dove]

that does not fit on a desk

that requires a whole ass rack

isnt that system like 3 enormous units that you must buy all at once?

[crude talon]

I think you are thinking of something different

just a regular desktop stack iirc

[plain schooner]

They have a baby sized one

[obtuse dove]

which one? they have multiple single standalone units

iirc they have like 8 different headphone amps alone

[crude talon]

my dacamp is too big 💢

[obtuse dove]

Oooo, that is a nice combo

Modius + Magnius

[plain schooner]

There’s a third one as well you can add

https://www.schiit.com/products/lokius

But you can just use software so I didn’t get it

[obtuse dove]

Lokius is nice if you use something like a console that usually dont have built-in EQs

[plain schooner]

[quasi field]

True. Compact, big ergonomic knob, transparent, 12-band PEQ, Fletcher-Munson curve equaliser, crossfeed

What I'd go for if I were in the wired game

[obtuse dove]

yasssss!!!

I have one!

[quasi field]

It's real expensive. Only thing I dislike about it

$950

It's much better priced if you live in the best country in the world (USA)

[wide zinc]

Hmm it not having bal 4.4mm is a miss at this price

[quasi field]

Not imo. The usefulness of that is very little. It wouldn't hurt of course but it is visually minimalist

[round lagoon]

it already has a fuck ton of power

also, you can change the 3.5mm to 4.4

[quasi field]

No idea they did that

[wide zinc]

Looks like its just jack change and not really a balanced output

[obtuse dove]

meh, not really, most of my headphones are already single ended, and the ones that can use a balanced cable benefit very minimally from having a balanced cable

[quasi field]

There's no real benefit to be had from balanced unless you are actually on the brink of running out of power single-ended (in which case you should probably just buy a new device) or unless you have a ground loop/noise

It doesn't sound better or different

[obtuse dove]

yeah, plus the output impedance is really really low on the Element IV

so its going to affect the sound profile of headphones and IEMs extremely minimally

[quasi field]

Balanced stuff while not harmful or bad seems to be something people want for fud reasons at times. Like not having it means their headphones won't «reach their true potential» etc.

And it's easy to get this impression when you go to Headfi and see people say getting a balanced cable improved soundstage and warmth etc. lol

[obtuse dove]

often times the output impedance of balanced outputs is higher than on single ended, albeit on most decent AMPs it's still going to be under one ohm so its probably going to be fine.

[quasi field]

Yes it's usually not a problem. And people should definitely buy low output impedance amplifiers anyway to make sure it won't happen

[obtuse dove]

lol yeah, even the Apple dongle is lower impedance than most motherboard jacks

[jolly pulsar]

i'm not an audio nerd nit

But

Got these

Theyre cute

@obtuse dove @quasi field now the local audio nerds can shit on me xd

[obtuse dove]

My friend had these, and then he returned them a week later

[quasi field]

Hopefully you like them

[obtuse dove]

And bro got AirPods Pro 3 instead

[crude talon]

those look massive

[jolly pulsar]

I'm liking them

[crude talon]

is that a cd

[obtuse dove]

They are

[jolly pulsar]

But airpods are like... way more expensive

I mostly just liked how cute they looked

[obtuse dove]

They are, but they have superior ANC and Transparency modes

[jolly pulsar]

But i do like how they sound and they work well

[obtuse dove]

And also superior battery life

[jolly pulsar]

I'll say tho im no audiophile

[crude talon]

does that case fit in a pocket

[quasi field]

I find earbuds to have great passive noise isolation. Though ANC on top would be even better

[jolly pulsar]

imagine having pockets

[crude talon]

it would be better if you did because then i could get an answer to my question

[obtuse dove]

HELL NO

it's a massive ahh case

[jolly pulsar]

It's not THAT big

[obtuse dove]

No it's huge

3x the size of an AirPods Pro case in volume

They could have made it smaller, the lid is hollow for fucks sake

[jolly pulsar]

Oh definitively

but yeah sound wise i'm happy with em

They're comfortable with the small eartips

The gaming mode works well with my switch 2