🌐│pc_gear

[urban granite]

fireee

[urban granite]

what are u pairing into it?

[quasi field]

Neumann KH120 II

[urban granite]

have u testted it with airpods

[wet coral]

oh....

[urban granite]

😂

[urban granite]

how do u peel of the stakes on ur mouse

im tryna change to dots rn cause it feels weird

[wet coral]

i got a scraper with my skates

[urban granite]

what it look liked

i got a scraper with a screen protector i got for my apple watch

imma see if it works

[wet coral]

what is this even english

[urban granite]

im peeling off my 2 weeks old stakes off my gpx c2

this hurts

but if the dots truly makes a diff then its chill

changing them rn cause for some reason my mouse just started feeling scratchy aasf

idk if its cause theres something on the glass pad or its my stakes

@wet coral do u take off the stakes aroaund the sensor too?

[wet coral]

yes

[urban granite]

thanksd king

and where to put the dots?

on mouse'

any specific layout

[remote raft]

No

[wet coral]

all 4 corners

[remote raft]

As long as the mouse doesnt wobble

And the skates around the sensor is for LOD purposes, it's better to leave it on but it doesn't really matter if you already took it off

[urban granite]

welp too late

like this? 😭

[wet coral]

above the top screws

[urban granite]

@wet coral ?

[wet coral]

i forgot how weird gpx is

i used 5

[urban granite]

💔

[wet coral]

one more at the bottom

[urban granite]

basically one on each screw?

[wet coral]

or else the mouse will rock back if you apply preassure there

pretty much

[urban granite]

aight lmao

thanks

[urban granite]

BRO THIS IS FUCKE DUP

the dots are too big for the bottom part of the gpx

this mouse is ahh

[wet coral]

LOL

[urban granite]

honestly think i shouldve just kepot the stock stakes on for a little longer

cause this is some bs

algiths o i added 4 on top and 4 on bottom

cause it had this weird feeling

like itll dift a little or somethin

[wet coral]

jesus christ

man

wtf

only need 5 max total on gpx

[urban granite]

yeah also my stock stakes were good for a little longer cause these feels exactly the same as the stock ones

[obtuse dove]

I would suggest using 6 dots

[urban granite]

shi im using 8

is that bad lol

[obtuse dove]

I mean, if it feels fine then it's fine

Usually less dots is more speed and more dots is more control

[urban granite]

well idk what "fine" feels like since i just got my glasspad and idk what its suppose to feel like 😭

[obtuse dove]

I would also suggest using more dots if you use a soft pad

[obtuse dove]

It's really up to you

As long as the application of the dot skates are even

Meaning there is no rocking motion when you set the mouse down on the glass pad or any other hard flat surface

It's ok if it's very minor though, they will wear in over time

[abstract warren]

You should be fine with 5, ideally if your mouse doesn’t rock with dots (if you tap it on its side does it seesaw), that shit got annoying to fix, but glass should feel kinda chaotic if you’re not used to it

[urban granite]

nah ive been going crazy with it on fortnite 😭

[obtuse dove]

Now imagine glass pad + sub 20 gram mouse

[abstract warren]

What dots are you using

Obsidian airs/TJ plastix were my favorite to use on Kazemi

[urban granite]

im using whatever the dots wallhack gave me

😭

[obtuse dove]

Back when I had my Razer Atlas I used tiger ice dots

Super speedy

[urban granite]

ill get the obsidians once i go thru all the ones ive used from wallhack

i used hyper glides back then but they got shit on quick

https://wallhack.com/products/wallhack-skates-ptfe-black-dots

think these are the ones that came with the pad

what dots do we reccommend?

@wet coral @abstract warren

pros are more for control and is more durable right?

[wet coral]

obsidian airs for mix speed and control

theyre slow

[urban granite]

airs is the purple one?

or

[wet coral]

yes

@urban granite

[urban granite]

shi the airs seems to fit at the bottom better

tahts fire

[wet coral]

should i swap my vv3p skates tomorrow

[urban granite]

u still using stock?

[wet coral]

yeah

[urban granite]

ouar shit

[wet coral]

dots (money) spread

[urban granite]

yeah i shouldve kept my stocks on a little longer

i felt so depressed slowly peeling it away 😭

felt like i aint get my moneys worth from those stock stakes

[wet coral]

lwk satisfying

[urban granite]

what the helly are these

[wet coral]

i mean they are perfectly fine on glass…

[wet coral]

ultraglide ice rs on aliexpress

80pc for $3

[urban granite]

how long did u have to wait for those?

you havent tried those ones out yet right

ill use whatever u think is better 😂

[urban granite]

change them out tmr and lmk how the ice feels compared to the airs 👀

[wet coral]

2 weeks

[wet coral]

nope

[urban granite]

accurate enough for ali express

[wet coral]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805431526676.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.5a0938da3GJ9xK&mp=1&pdp_npi=5%40dis!USD!USD 9.05!USD 3.94!!USD 3.94!!!%40210318a717634285679438478e5b47!12000037376702059!ct!US!6104398557!!1!0&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa

[urban granite]

thanks king

ill get them after ur thoughts tho

[wet coral]

ill probably have to swap em around on the same mouse for a consistent test

[urban granite]

tbh i feel like these dots are a little worst than the stocks (less smooth a little) but that might just be placebe

placbo

[urban granite]

what does it sound like when you swiping ur mouse on ur pad

[wet coral]

!remind me tomorrow

[urban granite]

what time is it for u??

it constantly feel scratchy to me but idk tho

everytime i look at the stakes there’s some shit on it even tho i keep wiping the pad and mouse

[wet coral]

12am

eepy time

[urban granite]

ah same

[wet coral]

est

[urban granite]

hesir

when you swipe ur mouse across the glssspad, does it make noise?

genuinely wondering 😭😭

[wet coral]

of course it does

its grinding down your skates and rubbing it on a hard surface is gonna make sound

[urban granite]

uhh did u get the ice or rs?

there’s no ice rs only rs or ice

[wet coral]

rs

i say ice rs cause ice is in the name

[urban granite]

how u get them for 3 it’s 13 for me

[wet coral]

sales over

[urban granite]

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-anime-jojos-bizarre-adventure-joseph-joestar-battle-tendency-gif-17923865

[wet coral]

also make new ali account

[silver topaz]

Amd just stated to their board members that gpu prices would increase soon

Rip

Covid era of PC building all over again

[lunar holly]

look whos still awake

HEHEHEHEH

[wet coral]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-doakes-squint-stare-suspicious-gif-14432154109786838518

[crude talon]

Wallhack has some drop tests on their social media
quite difficult to break

[urban granite]

@wet coral flux coming today 🥹

[wet coral]

my reaction to that information:

[urban granite]

might cop the vvp3

[crude talon]

4 logitech 💀

[wet coral]

i got g502 before the superlight and 2/3 of those are warranty replacements becuase theyre a bunch of pieces of garbage

[quartz remnant]

tbf i still love my g pro superlight 1 but the scroll wheel died on me

[wet coral]

how long ago did you get it? just warranty replace it from logitech if its within 3 years

[quartz remnant]

like 4 years ago

[wet coral]

oof

[crude talon]

Gave my superlight to my brother

[sacred basin]

my friends old super lite had the actual battery inside the mouse come loose and was just floating inside the housing

[round lagoon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT_oc7MhjKQ

Hmm, the earhook clip that makes it like ksc75 still coming soon.

gonan be on sale at my 'local' store soon, gonna buy it and try it

[plain schooner]

These look cool

[round lagoon]

yesh, and the tuning looks okay too.

[wet coral]

one of my replacements are hella creaky

[urban granite]

i just changed my interface from focusrite to the motu and i feel like it got some hissing whenever i tlak

can someone join vc and see for me 😭

[urban granite]

does iems need amp?

or cna i just plug it into my pc

[obtuse dove]

3 GPX's is based

[wet coral]

probably not

[obtuse dove]

not sure how I feel about on-ear but considering that it is open-back its probably a non-issue

[wet coral]

all ewaste lol

none of them function normally

[obtuse dove]

I do want to get the GPX 2 superstrike

[wet coral]

and the 3rd i got creaks

[obtuse dove]

mine has the weird middle mouse button thing

if only I could put the Hero2 sensor into the crazylight

[round lagoon]

You be fine on most headphone jack

[obtuse dove]

I looked these up, I really like the sound profile it has

[urban granite]

relaly? i plugged my waners 2 into pc jack and it had a hissy sound in the back

[obtuse dove]

that might just be a bad amp then

or a really shitty DAC

usually high quality AMPs and DACs have very low noise floors

even at 100% power

heck even some of the budget ones are pretty decent

[crude talon]

getting something like the apple dongle might be nice then

[round lagoon]

mmm, motherboard dac/amp might be ass then

yeah, do get usb dac like JM6, Fiio K11 or even the apple dongle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-jlS_OlSUg

no need to spend more than $20

[crude talon]

K11 is a bit pricey, KA11 is a dongle dac

[round lagoon]

I meant that lmao, just forget it has the A

[crude talon]

I have both of them

[urban granite]

for pc not phgone

i wont be using it for my phone

[round lagoon]

it's still same

dongle for phone works for PC

[crude talon]

KA11 was horrible on my phone
Drew so much battery

Works good with pc or for vr though

[round lagoon]

dongle dac also nice for rhythm game, like no difference in latency which makes it ideal

though I do want one that support ASIO someday (JDS Element 4)

[rich grove]

Should I buy the 60he v2

Anyone there??

[round lagoon]

yes yes and yes

[rich grove]

Why

Have u tried it

[round lagoon]

long term support, built to last, and good performance

[rich grove]

I have a huntsman v3

[round lagoon]

no

[rich grove]

But I hate the noise

[round lagoon]

it's alright, cause when you switch to wooting you can change the switches to whatever you wish

as long as it support it ofc

[rich grove]

Ok

[abstract warren]

Yeah I was on the huntsman v2 TKL and haven’t looked back tbh

Not a bad board, but not being able to customize it is a huge L

Esp given how rattly those stabs are and just how not great their opticals sound

Big yuck

[obtuse dove]

it also gets really warm

like, REALLY WARM

[wet coral]

i love having individual stabilization wires in EVERY switch

that had ZERO lube

[obtuse dove]

expensive qwq

[abstract warren]

That shit sounded like hot ass

[rain grail]

@wet coral HOLY80 On sale should I cop

Anything but sojus

[wet coral]

soj-

[wet coral]

perosnally i dont really like the holy cases but thats personal preference

[rain grail]

Fair I lowkey don’t like them just because of no sound insulation but DCF and holy80 might be an interesting combo

Didn’t *

[abstract warren]

You just have to buy soju to 1 up gore

[rain grail]

I'll buy soju's and then paint over them live

with a sharpie

[wet coral]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-scream-shout-sad-gif-24329881

[wet coral]

then you gotta drop $160 on keycaps

[rain grail]

will do it for the cause

[crude talon]

I need the miku keycaps to get here already 💢

[obtuse dove]

soju~

[wet coral]

the sojus are calling

[obtuse dove]

The 45% ones to be specific

[wet coral]

i drank it all

[obtuse dove]

[obtuse dove]

LMAO

[abstract warren]

Nice wooden case lil homie

[wet coral]

its aluminumumumumum!

[abstract warren]

Nuh uh that’s wood flavored

[wet coral]

moumouium

[silver topaz]

Omnomnomnomnom

[quasi field]

https://hometheaterhifi.com/reviews/audio-accessory/power-conditioner/p-i-audio-group-uberbuss-power-conditioner-review/

I also plugged my 65” Vizio 4K TV into the UberBUSS. The blacks got blacker and the brights got brighter, which improved picture resolution in every way. I had to recalibrate the TV to optimize it for the UberBUSS. A very nice, and unexpected benefit, indeed.

So stupid it's funny

[urban granite]

yo gore quick question? keycaps where?

besides beans

wtf

kbdfans *

[wet coral]

divinikey

[urban granite]

bless king

[urban granite]

did bro add me by accdient

[rigid dagger]

wait mb

[urban granite]

nah i caught u bro

[rigid dagger]

yeah

it was an acvident

[urban granite]

fuckk bro 9 hours til 60 v2, DO I GET IT

u probably gonna say ys 😂

[wet coral]

yes

[round lagoon]

YES\

[urban granite]

😭

[wet coral]

better get split too

https://tenor.com/view/judgement-cat-cat-angry-cat-cat-face-cat-forehead-gif-4731341898773190051

[urban granite]

nah yeah thats the only reason im thiking about getting it

that and that it has white metal board now

but its like i just got the 80he

😭

im proabably get it later down the line, d9ont get much from pre ordering anyway right

besides some switches and a post card or something right?

@wet coral

[wet coral]

every keyboard gets a post card

[urban granite]

oh

then wahts the perk of getting it earlier

/preordering

just name tag and switches?

[wet coral]

stickers

but yeah

[urban granite]

yeahhhh

ill give it a year or get the v3

LMFAO

[wet coral]

wouldnt have much to improve for a v3

switches mainly are what i think theyd change

[urban granite]

okay ill wait for the friction case 80he 😭

[wet coral]

not happening

[urban granite]

yeahh my flux came but im high key too lazy to switch my raws out

[wet coral]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[rigid dagger]

def yes

[urban granite]

feel they feel thatttt much better tho

[round lagoon]

you'll be waiting a while for the v3

[rigid dagger]

I would get split spacebar, so much you can do

[urban granite]

the "stick top" on the taws lowkey feels nice

[urban granite]

bro i spent like 1 grand alone already this month

and this month just started

😭

[wet coral]

yes i swapped from raws to dcf

[urban granite]

crhistmas is coming too 💔

[rigid dagger]

4k cad for me

[urban granite]

do u have a sound test for me

[rigid dagger]

5k mb

[wet coral]

lemme look

[urban granite]

https://tenor.com/view/jerry-meme-tom-and-jerry-meme-jerry-points-get-a-load-of-this-guy-this-guy-gif-11384860625931393733

[rigid dagger]

it was so bad because I had to get a Framework 16 with a 7700S GPU before heading into my bunker for the next 5 years

[urban granite]

:jpy

been a while since i kept tweaking with my pc

sold my 4080 toa friend and just settled for a 4070 ti

dont need any of that high shit cause i still play on all low settings anyway 😭

[wet coral]

wait lwk forgot what mounting style i had raws on in my sound tests

[urban granite]

nah the DCF

also what u mean mounting style?

[rigid dagger]

I have a 9800X3D 9070 XT M2 build but I wanted a laptop that was decent for light gaming with a 7700S GPU, Right to Repair, and Upgradeability

[wet coral]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1436013386855874631 - every combo you can think of

[wet coral]

like tray mount/burger or friction fit

[urban granite]

like the plating type?

why ur iphone mic sound better 😂

also is that the case ur DCF came in?

mines came in like a cyclinder casing

[wet coral]

no

[wet coral]

mine did too

[obtuse dove]

I was tempted to buy the framework, but the basic features like the sleep modes and hibernation modes not working quite right on frameworks is a turn off for me.

Power management in framework laptops are pretty bad. And they still haven't fixed it

[rigid dagger]

fair, that's not really much of an issue for me since I power on and off my devices

i almost never leave them on sleep

desktop or laptop

phone is the only exception

[lunar niche]

Power management on linux laptops seems super hit and miss still

I sorta regret not just going for a macbook after experiencing the newer ones from work (m3 I believe)

Downside being it is completely orthogonal to the Framework ideals, of course

[obtuse dove]

I love my Macbook Pro M4

16 inch chonker but its super powerful and lasts for multiple days on a single charge

[mental spade]

Gotta hand it to apple they make a good laptop

[lunar niche]

Yup, I'm not a fanboy or anything, I just bought around the time of the M1 and didn't know just how good it was. Was severely turned off by the Intel Macbooks.

[bitter sapphire]

Tbh the M chips on macbooks are soo good

[plain schooner]

They’re alright, thinkpad is still number 1

[mental spade]

Still using my 16" M1 MacBook pro

Still great

[desert isle]

i love my macbook air so light taking it from home to work

pros are cool just dont do anything too crazy on my laptop

[mental spade]

Yeah if I was to re buy id probably get an air I don't need all the power of the pro

And it's a chunky boy

[desert isle]

ngl i just got it because it was on sale and its an m3 chip the clean look is so nice

[mental spade]

Thinkpad just can't compete on build quality and trackpad/speakers/screen/battery life/raw performance outside of video games

[desert isle]

i have a Glorious Model o- but ive been looking at the logitech g pro x superlight 2c wireless but im not sure if the upgrade is worth it for the price any suggestions?

[mental spade]

Also apple products have the benefit of being able to sell them for much higher value than windows laptops which age like milk in the second hand market

[mental spade]

Lots of good options on the market for mice, can't really go wrong but shape is very subjective

[plain schooner]

I’ve never used a thinkpad in my life

[crude talon]

can only compete on nipple

[obtuse dove]

Nahhhh, Apple laptops are built way nicer than thinkpads, not to mention MacOS is just so so nice.

And I own an X1 Carbon gen 13 Aura Edition, which is one of their flagship laptops. And I'd still choose MacBook Pro as long as what I need to get done doesn't require windows 11

[obtuse dove]

Esp the Apple silicon computers

Because M1 is still a beast for everyday tasks

[silver topaz]

Dac amp necessary for iems?

[mental spade]

Not really but having something that isn't directly plugged in via the motherboard is nice because the signal is usually noisy when directly plugged in

But a simple dongle achieves that

[bitter sapphire]

if u don't want to spend too much on it just get the apple DAC

[silver topaz]

I have a little dac id probably use. Probably should get some nicer iems before a fancy little dac

[quasi field]

Maybe not. I'd get something if only to have a nicer time adjusting volume and to get to plug them in closer to me. I couldn't personally plug it into my PC because it's too far away. Having something on the desk close to me that I can easily reach and adjust volume with is worth it even if there might no zero difference to sound

[silver topaz]

Yeah Im getting one of the xlr adapters for the stream deck+ so It should have an input for the iems. I just heard that the dac amp provides clearer and louder audio, wasn't sure how true that was

[quasi field]

Louder is likely. Clearer is a maybe

I get good results from motherboard audio. Don't hear any noise with the ones I've had

[oblique totem]

iems can be sensitive to impedance which can be pretty bad on motherboard, but yea a simple dongle will fix that, and that only really happens on multi driver iems, only reason its relevant these days is how cheap and great the truthear reds are, and they are very sensitive to impedance

[astral musk]

#1019755933959733258 please.

[red mirage]

Is my setup good or naw

[crude talon]

this is why mousepads come flatpacked 😔

[rain turret]

very cool

[proper vector]

Sad and empty

[red mirage]

Thanks!

[red mirage]

Im waiting for a couple things dont worry I’m not going for a comp setup

[round lagoon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arexVdTS5YE

ngl, I might like this

though the treble might be too dark for me for after 4k

[ashen fable]

Anyone have any recommendations for earphones or earbuds for gaming? Don’t feel like buying another “gaming headset”

[wet coral]

How much you wanna spend

[ashen fable]

$400-500

Less also works

[round lagoon]

Xenns top Pro

[wet coral]

Bros going for the jugular

[round lagoon]

Legit at that price point

[ashen fable]

The Mangrid top pro?

[round lagoon]

yes

[ashen fable]

Alright I’ll start looking into it

[wet coral]

I’m using the kiwi ears astral

@abstract warren you have been summoned

Now start talking about expensive items

[round lagoon]

Kiwi ears astral, Ziigaat Horizon, HiSenior Mega 7, Xenns Top Pro. Either can be a good choice honestly.

[ashen fable]

lol they all look so similar 😂

[round lagoon]

Tuning are very similar, I just recommend the Xenns Top Pro since it looks nicer to me and also my dream IEM

[ashen fable]

Ahh

[gaunt flax]

Could also go hd 490pro for that price, but depends on if you prefer headphone or iem

[round lagoon]

hd490 pro is soo good

[abstract warren]

id take a look at this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjH-NmRebfU

Compares the Top Pros (more boujee version of Astral tuning) to the Astrals and Xenns Tea Pros which are 2 other really nice IEMs in your price range

[round lagoon]

Eqed my Meze Alba because I'm bored. This sounds super natural to me while retaining the IEM's personality.

I think I generally like when 5-8k region doesn't have a dip and 6k having a tip.

In fact, dat light 6k peak also present in hd490 pro on 2 5128 measurement (lighter on listener's)

actually, gonna adjust it more, there's certain song where I prefer the original tuning. Prop has to do with 3k-5k range not as loud as 5k-8k.

[ashen fable]

I’m excited to try one of these options, I personally like the look of the Hisenior Mega 7 so far

[round lagoon]

the tuning on that is really similar with kiwi ears astral, so I just imagine it as a pimped up astral

[round lagoon]

Done! Sounds similar to hd490 lmao.

[lunar holly]

@wet coral

[wet coral]

https://tenor.com/view/nose-fur-kawaii-sniff-canine-gif-20552016

[wet coral]

i took that sticker off

[round lagoon]

Nice dongle

[abstract warren]

What the helly

[ashen fable]

What’s the dongle for?

[crude talon]

nice pad

[silver topaz]

Dac amp. The idea is that it can send power power to the iems and occasionally prevent possible static noise

[ashen fable]

Fancy

[shut tundra]

Booooooom

[urban granite]

i had to preform asap surgery on my 80he last night

every part, every screw laid out piece by piece 🤣

surprised nothing broke

@wet coral astrals are here 👀👀

but i’m at work for another 2 hours

before i can try them

[abstract warren]

https://tenor.com/view/robert-redford-jeremiah-johnson-nodding-yes-nod-of-approval-gif-21066931

[urban granite]

was taking out the geon raws hard asf for u too

i couldn’t use the switch puller to get it out

literally had to take the whole thing apart and just pushed it out the pc plate

[abstract warren]

They weren’t fun

When the light diffuser pops out and goes missing into the other room

Partially the fault of the Wooting puller and L pulling design

[urban granite]

that almost happened to me

[abstract warren]

I ended up white knuckling it and only got 2 switches out, then I just used my metal ASUS switch puller and just crushed the shit out of mine

[urban granite]

yeah geon made the hooks to big so it was basically impossible to pull it out with a puller

[urban granite]

well i ain’t wanna do all that 😭

[abstract warren]

Doesn’t matter since there are loads of better stability switches out there

[urban granite]

really?

[abstract warren]

Remove the switch plate from the keyboard and it’ll be 100x easier

[urban granite]

imo the raws and DCP feel the same stability wise

[urban granite]

i did that

my thumbs were sore 😭

it was still hard asf just pushing them out

[abstract warren]

B+/B+ vs A/S for top and bottom stability respectively

[urban granite]

and i had like little pieces of the geon raws everywhere 😭

[abstract warren]

Owlabs are improved versions at A/A for both and even bottoming out on toggle lean keys in FPS, the bottom out on them were kinda wobbly.

[urban granite]

did my seller give me bs ass switches??

[abstract warren]

Probably not

[urban granite]

idk i compared it side by side and they (raws and dcf) felt very similar

[abstract warren]

Probably just inexperience with them so you don’t feel the difference between mx stem vs increased boxstem stability

[urban granite]

maybe

[abstract warren]

They were decently tight for top wobble, but non boxstem switches (sans raptor v2) got wobbly bottom when you bottom out on em

[urban granite]

tbh it felt like the raws were just a little bit for stable

[wet coral]

he said fluxes and raws sounded the same 😭

[abstract warren]

That’s hella cap

[wet coral]

https://tenor.com/view/judgement-cat-cat-angry-cat-cat-face-cat-forehead-gif-4731341898773190051

[urban granite]

[wet coral]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-doakes-squint-stare-suspicious-gif-14432154109786838518

[abstract warren]

RAWs are like you’re writing on your 3rd grade chalk board vs DCF is your slapping tiles on the hard floor

They’re both clack sure, but they’re not close in stability nor sound really

[wet coral]

next hes gonna say "man the astrals sound the same as my apple earpods"

[abstract warren]

I mean shit Jade pros had similar stability grades in Sno’s mod site and going from Jade pros to TTC Pom wasn’t even remotely close stability wise

[abstract warren]

I would actually crash out

[urban granite]

i’m bout to say the astrals sound like my apple buds 😭😭

[urban granite]

wait bro read my mind

i ain’t even see u type that LMFAO

u know me too well brother

[abstract warren]

https://tenor.com/view/right-vince-staples-the-vince-staples-show-mhm-sure-gif-10596438013289569143

[urban granite]

nah i doubt tho

cause even with waners 2, it was significantly better in audio

[urban granite]

hate me for this but i lowkey loved the feel of the “sticky top” of the raws and like the sound of raws a little more (they were a bit deeper in sound in my ear)

am i cooked?

[wet coral]

youre fucked

[bitter sapphire]

[abstract warren]

“Am I cooked? Nah you’re fucked” is gold lmaoo

[bitter sapphire]

i really wish if i could buy a new IEM but yeah Astrals are just expensive

[wet coral]

🤨

wtf lmao

[abstract warren]

You can live back to 2024 if you want, doesn’t make it objectively true, but you can like them

[wet coral]

@abstract warren bundles are more expensive now

[abstract warren]

There goes the ebb and flow

[urban granite]

only my buds got delivered

[wet coral]

no more astrals for 270$

[urban granite]

the casing is back ordered or someshit

[wet coral]

no one cares about the case highkey

[urban granite]

but ion gaf bout the casing

[abstract warren]

Give it like 6-12 weeks

[abstract warren]

It’s also $270

Get outta here with your € currency, we fought a war to make it at the start

[wet coral]

offical website is also at 300 rn

[urban granite]

no more 250

[wet coral]

what the FUCK IS A KILOMETER

https://tenor.com/view/sfm-soldier-tf2-meme-american-gif-24728385

[abstract warren]

Official sites lie all the time, just wait for Amazon to have it back or bloomaudio

[wet coral]

i alreayd have astrals in hand

[hazy fiber]

What are you comparing exactly? bottom out wobble?

[urban granite]

nahh raws are still meta i just hate how they were glued onto my pc plating

[abstract warren]

The only switch that clears A/S stability atm are the raptor V2s

And RAWs aren’t even owlabs stability

[urban granite]

[hazy fiber]

Yeah, I don't know about "meta", they're not close to DCFs stability wise

not sure how you're testing either

[abstract warren]

They are the 2024 meta, but we’re in big 2026 now

[hazy fiber]

[urban granite]

it’s like saying the 1080 ti aren’t metas anymore 💔

[wet coral]

they arent

[abstract warren]

If you wanna run something that isn’t 1080p that would be correct

[abstract warren]

This is the same thing but now instead of living in 2024 we’re going back to like 2016 type shiii 🤣🤣🤣

[urban granite]

😂

[abstract warren]

Surely the Pentium CPU series is still meta right guys

[bitter sapphire]

sadly not anymore

[lunar niche]

My EVGA 1080 will be preserved forever. Maybe the best bit of silicon I’ve ever purchased.

[surreal vigil]

the 10 series is the best generation of gpus ngl

[urban granite]

@wet coral

what is this packaging

[wet coral]

amazon packaging

also yes the box is yellow for a blue iem

[quasi field]

I thought you bought the Dusk or something

[urban granite]

i’m a better man now

no more anime girls

[bitter sapphire]

So there is a blue box for the yellow iem

[urban granite]

ay maybe

[silver topaz]

When finals are done maybe I'll treat myself to some astrals

[quasi field]

I hope you will try EQ at least

[urban granite]

@wet coral imma ask a goofy ass question but

is the red or blue goes into the left/right buds??

[silver topaz]

Red right blue left

I think

[urban granite]

ggs

i need confirmation😭

[silver topaz]

Sounds right lol

Usually the cable and the bud will have the same color dot

[urban granite]

nope

[silver topaz]

Welp, yeah right red blue left

[urban granite]

safe to achocol wipe iems right? 😭

[wet coral]

red dot right blue dot left

[wet coral]

why would you need to

[urban granite]

clean them

[wet coral]

its probably fine but id look it up

[urban granite]

i me an how else works u clean it right

[wet coral]

probably just microfiber the fuck out of it

[silver topaz]

Should be fine, alcohol is the only thing to really clean electroncis with

[urban granite]

why i feel like that’ll do more harm than good 😭

[urban granite]

90% of the time i’m on my pc right after i shower so hopefully the IEM can survive a little wuhta

@wet coral im ngl

nah imma keep it to myself 😭

i think you alreaduy know what im about to say 😭

[wet coral]

yeah youre canceled

@abstract warren

[urban granite]

300$ 💀

STOp

STOP

STOP

i feel like i gotta up all my volume

everything is so low

and the music..

[quasi field]

Are you running out of volume?

[urban granite]

yeah on 101% rn

[quasi field]

What are you using to amplify?

[urban granite]

wait ur right

im just plugging it into a adapter 3.5 to usb a into my pc

💀

lemme plug it into my motu

does that make a difference

[quasi field]

In volume it definitely will

Remember to turn the volume on the M2 all the way down before you listen and then slowly increase it

[urban granite]

wait motu headphones dont take 4.4???

yooo noo say ong

[urban granite]

but audio quailty will be fine still right/

[quasi field]

Motu M2 is 6,3 mm only

You need an adapter

[urban granite]

aint no wayyyyyyy

aight its gonna have to sit on this adapter anyway

uintil i get the 6.3

i thought it was 4.4 damn

thanks tho

[quasi field]

Yes

[urban granite]

nah these sounds a little shittyer than the applebuds 💀

lemme get used to it

[quasi field]

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/motu-m2-review-audio-interface.19911/

[quasi field]

I always felt that if you have to get used to a sound then it isn't better

But also are you sure you don't have seal issues? Try pressing on both earbuds and see if it sounds better

[urban granite]

like it sounds fine but it thje audio just feels low

[quasi field]

Plug it into something more powerful then!!

What is your volume actually at? 90%?

[urban granite]

39

30

[quasi field]

So you have enough power then

[urban granite]

wait i think the audio is fine

[wet coral]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-butler-jimmy-butler-paper-confused-gif-14478007832172093541

[urban granite]

i think the videos i was watching was using some wack ass AI voices so it sounded weird idk man

[urban granite]

saving that ty 😂

[quasi field]

Just listening to music instead lol

[urban granite]

let me put u on bro, sell the astrals and get the apple earbuds LMAO

im getting on fortnite rn and trying it on that

[quasi field]

Apple Earbuds suck since they have no sound isolation nor bass

[wet coral]

yeah no

[urban granite]

mb bro

[urban granite]

maybe im a no bass type of guy then cause i love the way they sound 😭

[quasi field]

Have you tried listening to music yet? Have you tried different eartips? I assume it comes with several

[urban granite]

music is def better

lemme just shut my ass up before gore finds my addresss

[urban granite]

LMFAOOO

nah bro theyre great @abstract warren

[quasi field]

What's the problem then?
It doesn't sound how you want for AI videos?

[abstract warren]

bluds not built for the thudnerdome

[urban granite]

this why i cant have nice things

[abstract warren]

if that was the $15 ones i was contemplating that earlier

[wet coral]

https://tenor.com/view/caseoh-gif-3944837017366223108

[urban granite]

iudk how to explain the sound but they sound a little "hollow" to me, is this how the real deal is suppose to sound like?

ah its more like if u were to acitivate spatial audio on a hyperx headset

[wet coral]

please use it with a dac/amp 🙏

[urban granite]

thats what these reminds me of

[urban granite]

waitingf for my adapter to arrive now :D

[urban granite]

6.35?

[quasi field]

Doubt that will make much of a difference when he seems to have enough volume

[quasi field]

Yes

[urban granite]

tbh the more im wearing them the more normal it sounds

[quasi field]

Only way I can see it make a decent difference is if the earbuds have very uneven impedance and with the motherboard or whatever he uses having high output impedance

Motu M2 has very low output impedance and will at least guarantee that can't be what's happening

[silver topaz]

If you don't like em, send them to me

[urban granite]

will this harm the earbuds?

[wet coral]

yeah if you dont like em im here to take them off your hands

[quasi field]

No

[silver topaz]

I CALLED DIBS FIRST

[urban granite]

2 is always better than one aint it 😂

[abstract warren]

nah apple earbuds clear

[urban granite]

^ thats what im saying ggggg

this guys knows bro

[lunar holly]

Thanks hehe

[lunar holly]

Sold my FiiO K11

Bought the moon drop dawn pro 2

But I might give this one to my nephew for Christmas

And buy protocol

[abstract warren]

https://tenor.com/view/get-out-angry-speaking-head-tuco-squidward-gif-13808874276609302886

[lunar holly]

Astral is da weh

https://tenor.com/view/nod-cat-hyper-gif-9540792418684483949

https://tenor.com/view/dis-is-da-wae-this-is-da-wae-this-is-the-way-da-wae-ugandan-knuckles-gif-25797533

@wet coral dude I skipped the number one rule of setting the DAC to 0% when plugging in for the first time

I ended up ear raping myself

My left ear feel like its destroyed

Gg

[abstract warren]

preferring the $15 apple earbuds is like the keyboard equivalent of using a cardboard case with steel plate

[lunar holly]

LMAO

[lunar holly]

Like that shit was 100% volume and Windows 100

[wet coral]

skill issue

[lunar holly]

God fuckig damn

[lunar holly]

Sybauuu

Sighhh
Bao

[wet coral]

bao

[lunar holly]

Heh

[wet coral]

i have it on 100% and windows on 7

and i feel like thats still too loud

[urban granite]

id imagine the cardboard plating would sound nice tbf

i should mod my 60he like that

[rigid dagger]

hi

[wet coral]

https://tenor.com/view/case-caseoh-your-banned-you'e-banned-get-out-gif-7698576230662898937

[urban granite]

lowkey waht do u even do with old keyboards

[rigid dagger]

collect, reminisce, and use as backups

and for LAN parties

also mb for adding you, I thought you were a friend of mine by the name yoonsr

never got around to clarifying so I fogured I'd tell you haha

[urban granite]

as one would say

"skill issue"

[rigid dagger]

btw copped an SP-005 in black

now I will have all the 005 surface types!

[urban granite]

dayumm they sold out fast

and they werent even availble in the US yet

[rigid dagger]

i got mine in the first 30 seconds 😂

[urban granite]

but then again i just got the 004 so its whatever

[rigid dagger]

yeah, if you like the SP-004 and have no issues with it, it's not worth it unless you REALLY want the upgrades

[urban granite]

just for fun 😭

[quasi field]

The price doesn't speak for their quality

[round lagoon]

SM5 graph on hangout

One thing I can say, the 200-500 could now be considered 'fixed' to me.

I might like this, a strong might because it's still harman 2019.

[quasi field]

Are you still looking at more earbuds to buy

[round lagoon]

deciding between dunu 242, SM5, and Kiwi ears astral, yeah

After eqing meze alba, I realized I want something that has a smooth line going down from 3k-8k with a peak at 6k. SM5 is a good contender

[quasi field]

What about EQing your Alba if you find it comfortable?

[round lagoon]

I want da tuning without having to EQ

[quasi field]

Astral is fairly similar to the Variations I had. Just a little warmer and less high mids

(not saying you should buy it. Even if it weren't discontinued I'd say you shouldn't)

[quasi field]

Spilled soda on my Logitech keyboard yesterday. Cleaned it as well as I could but I couldn't clean under the keys. While playing a game now I noticed a few keys particularly the 1 key has this horrible mushy feeling now and is harder to tap fast. Now I see this. Am I fucked? Does it mean I have to rebuy the keyboard?

[elfin kayak]

it's the sugars working its magic

[obtuse dove]

Unless the switch can be replaced with a new one, that key is cooked my boy.

Sounds like you need a new switch

Or switches

[quasi field]

It can't be replaced

It's the Logitech K860

[elfin kayak]

k860 is a membrane i think

[obtuse dove]

Yeah that keyboard is toast then

[round lagoon]

hmm, Hype 4 mark 2, it almost has the treble that I want (just no peak at 6khz).

[round lagoon]

@abstract warren I think I found my end game. Thieaudio Hype 4 Mark 2. Eqing my 7hz Divine into it with Auto EQ, it sounds almost exactly how I would EQ the IEM myself.

[half shoal]

y'all, zeromouse is going on sale again

idk if it's okay to post about it but just wanted to let people know if you were interested

3000 units

[crude talon]

can also get p8 skates if u buy an artisan pad right now
nice value add if someone was already planning on getting a pad

[half shoal]

that is really cool lol

man everyone is killing it with these releases lol

[rain turret]

Buyee just cancelled my Artisan order actually, i guess we try again monday.

[crude talon]

my friend bought some and his shipping was half the shipping to my country, despite our countries being right next to each other 😭

[surreal vigil]

can you not buy directly from the artisan website?

[rain turret]

Yeah, but they ship with DHL Express and without DDP, so you get taxxed and handling feed, i would rather not pay two mousepads worth.

[crude talon]

my face when i get taxed on my purchases 🤯

[surreal vigil]

thats weird. i bought a raiden last month and i dont remember getting smacked with high fees

[crude talon]

the shipping is expensive though

at least to sweden it was quite steep

[rain turret]

Because you probably had a different courier used

[surreal vigil]

no it was dhl and it was delivered to the states

[rain turret]

DHL Express in specific?

[surreal vigil]

thats what it says in the email

[rain turret]

then maybe due to the US situation right now, Artisan is forced to do it in advance

however they don't do it for EU, so every DHL Express delivered order is 100% of the time subject to taxes and handling fees

[surreal vigil]

oof

[urban granite]

maybe it’s a sign for me to pick one up for fun

[crude talon]

should just get another plane ticket to japan with these prices 👴

[abstract warren]

@round lagoon it’s element IV time

[round lagoon]

bold of you to assume I have money

[abstract warren]

For me

[round lagoon]

that changes thing. NOICE

I now have somebody who playtest it for me

[abstract warren]

I’m seeing if they can swap the 3.5mm jack for a 4.4mm balanced option

[round lagoon]

I don't think so

it's alright. 3.5mm is all you need

[abstract warren]

Nothing like a friendly and corporate email to see if Magic can happen with their CS

Worst case I just have to swap my default cable back to 3.5 😭

@round lagoon I emailed like 5 mins ago and he said yes, goat shit

[round lagoon]

do they legit just take one and solder the 4.4 in place of 3.5?

[abstract warren]

I think they offer knob replacement options too, so I guess so

One man army and has everything down pat

[slender aspen]

Need help

I got the wooting 80 he and was wondering which usb port should I plug into. I have the MSI PRO B550M-VC WiFi ProSeries Motherboard. My motherboard labels the red ports for mouse and keyboard but im pretty sure thats for bios not optimized for gaming and its also for data transfer. GPT says do the blue ports (3.0/3.X) for wooting 80he and for logitech g pro superlight v1 mouse it says plug into the black ports (USB 2.0). Which is the best for latency for my situation

[white jackal]

Make sure they are plugged into separate usb controllers

[atomic lark]

Wooting keyboards only need USB 2.0, but you might have to experiment which ports have no issue providing enough power

[rain turret]

Either of the two red or blue will work, i would personally plug into the red

[slender aspen]

after doing a lot of research I found for mouse black ports better and blue ports better for keyboard

[silver topaz]

No, just no

Your "lots of research" looks like asking chat gpt for a answer

[half shoal]

zeromouse restock in 7 minutes

https://zeromouse.co/products/blade

[crude talon]

any of your ports should be fine, but it could be slightly better to have mouse and kb on different usb controllers, but that isn’t just the port color

[silver topaz]

Yeah, the only thing that would actually matter would be on different controllers. But let's be honest the difference would be in micro seconds

[wet coral]

[half shoal]

LOL

it's terrible i know

I'm just gonna buy it with the lowest expectations possible

[wet coral]

what is that range lmao

[heady crystal]

£137 for whatever that is

[half shoal]

Who the fuck knows

[crude talon]

good luck on the drop

[half shoal]

lolll ty

[plain schooner]

wtf

[crude talon]

isn’t he just producing them in his warehouse
not a big company making these

Probably makes more sense to ship them out as they finish than delay them to the same date, or something

[half shoal]

it is in his warehouse

3000 units - the most so far

I can't even use it until summer break so it's perfect lol

i don't game at school

[crude talon]

it seems like a nice mouse but its definitely most optimized for his hand and grip
Don’t think I use the same ftip grip 🥀

[unkempt gust]

got one :D

I broke my v34 recently 😭

tried to get the first drop but no dice

[half shoal]

yayyy

apparently it's more durable

[unkempt gust]

I broke my v34 by accidentally knocking it off my desk and it landing at a bad angle on a hard surface, so that's reassuring

lolololol

[half shoal]

I think he shows that exact thing happening

[unkempt gust]

ye, in the latest vid

[half shoal]

nice

[crude talon]

Nice

[slender aspen]

How to set up wooting custom settings

[atomic lark]

you might want to read the quickstart guides, it's listed there: https://wooting.io/quickstart

[slender aspen]

thanks

[silver topaz]

180 dollars for probably 20 dollars manufacturing cost

[red vigil]

it uses the viper v3 pros chip or smt

[crude talon]

🤯 just found out about margins

[crude talon]

New ones have a custom module by finalmouse

Doubt manufacturing cost is that low with how small the runs are though

[silver topaz]

I have a resin printer and a dream, I fully believe I could if they weren't the ugliest mouse ever lol

[crude talon]

Believe what? That you could make one? I don’t doubt it
But producing at a larger scale and running a warehouse with employees to assemble and ship products, and having the internals produced by a different company that also employs labour and has overhead seems like a different beast to me
Not to mention it’s also a niche product that people are (evidently) willing to pay for

[wet coral]

it uses ones from the ulx

and he just takes them apart

[red vigil]

ohh

[crude talon]

he doesn’t take apart thousands of ulx’s it’s a custom pcb made by fm 😭

[silver topaz]

That I could make one? Yeah easily, would it be something id mass produce? No. Like you said completely different ball park, but if I wanted one for fun I could honestly make it myself

[crude talon]

I don’t doubt your abilities

[crude talon]

if he was stealing internals from a ulx and throwing the shell away for every mouse the price would be crazy lowballing

[plush vortex]

Anyone tried the RAWM LEVIATHAN V4 mouse? Getting the 60HE V2 as an upgrade from the Logitech G915 TKL and thinking about getting a new mouse too.

Was thinking about a Razer DeathAdder V4 Pro but it is like... 3x the price of the Leviathan V4.

[bitter sapphire]

ah another GPX copy mouse be like

[wet coral]

actually its a viper copy

scroll wheel is a bit more forwards and the mouse clicks are rounded instead of concaved

[crude talon]

nah that 1 gram saved us worth the price

[bitter sapphire]

yeah for me its looks more like a GPshit

[wet coral]

gpx hump is a extends further back

[bitter sapphire]

[plush vortex]

I'm looking to upgrade my mouse from a Logitech G PRO Wireless I got in 2021. Don't know anything about GPX etc.

[bitter sapphire]

GPX is G Pro X Superlight

[plush vortex]

Ah, GPX = G Pro X

[silver topaz]

Get the super light 2 do it😈

[wet coral]

https://tenor.com/view/paper-mario-paper-mario-64-paper-mario-ttyd-ttyd-the-thousand-year-door-gif-9144777282367309735

[bitter sapphire]

burn the liar

its time to witchhunt the ppl who think that GPX2 is good

[plush vortex]

Well, at least I know what not to get

[crude talon]

Assuming you use claw? Maya x could be a nice option for a bit less than a dav4 I think, it’s ambi shape not ergo though
My friend likes his

[plush vortex]

Thanks for the recommendation, I'll have a look. The Leviathan V4 is on sale for $79.99/£60ish so I might just order that too and see how it feels.

[silver topaz]

Hey, it's good because Logitech does a student discount lol

And their software isn't straight malware like razer lol

[past dome]

Logitech is overpriced so any sale is really the price you should be paying full price

[bitter sapphire]

i hate logitech mices, plus i just setup my mouse and uninstall mouse stuff anyway xd

[silver topaz]

So valid

[wet coral]

i just have it not launch on startup

[bitter sapphire]

tbh SteelSeries software is still worse

[queen spindle]

whats this website? been looking for a mouse with a similar shape to the g502

[queen spindle]

so is their build quality! <3

steelseries easily the worst brand ive ever used that somehow has a reputation

[bitter sapphire]

eloshape

[queen spindle]

need more LARGE mice....

[bitter sapphire]

Large mices are not in the meta anymore

Maybe check out Beast X Max

[queen spindle]

i dont really care about a meta cause i genuinely dont believe a 20g lighter mouse makes u any better LOL

im just tired of these mice built for,., mice people or something

pro x made my hand cramp trying to hold it

g502 is still the largest

i just cant justify buying it a third time when they havent fixed its internals in 10 years

[hazy fiber]

DeathAdder V4 Pro

[queen spindle]

still smaller than the g502 </3 also is razers build quality even good?

[hazy fiber]

Yes, it is.

[queen spindle]

thats surprising

[unkempt gust]

they've genuinely stepped it up over the years lol

[queen spindle]

thought they made cheap "gamer" cat ear headphones ngl

[unkempt gust]

like
Razer of the 2010s is a distant past

[hazy fiber]

Their latest mice are very good

[queen spindle]

last time i used razor was probably.,.. 2010 lol

[unkempt gust]

yeah...night and day

since like
2018
they've actually really started to improve their offerings both in the keeb and mouse space

[queen spindle]

glorius model D2 is what im using rn

pretty nice

[hazy fiber]

DeathAdder V4 has optical scroll wheel, so you won't have any issues with it

[hazy fiber]

If you're worried about it

[queen spindle]

only issue with the D2 is no free scroll

and the fking genius who put holes in it

and then a sticker on top of those holes to collect dust

g502 is just really nice for palm grip tho :P

[bitter sapphire]

[plain schooner]

People really be saying anything online huh

https://tenor.com/view/montgomery-swizzenbocher-montgomery-swizzenbocher-the-3rd-montgomery-swizzenbocher-iii-montgomery-swizzenbocher-mario-judah-mario-judah-gif-8660918683027233518

[queen spindle]

their mice might be okay but their headphones r garbage

[bitter sapphire]

Most gamer headset are ass anyway

IEM’s for the win

Its 4:12am

I should sleep

[queen spindle]

not a fan

IEM soundstage can never compete with headphones

[obtuse dove]

headphones though

:)

[queen spindle]

ive used crinacles iems that everybody was talking about and they were just okay

[wet coral]

love my iems

[queen spindle]

if youre looking for nice earbuds get IEMS but theres not really any point using it at a desktop imo

[queen spindle]

love my dt 990 pros

[wet coral]

personally i hate the headphone bands and earcups

[queen spindle]

damn

i feel like iems would give me an ear infection with how much i wear headphones

[wet coral]

i daily drive my iems and clean the eartips at least once a week

[wet coral]

thats what i thought too but (to me at least) it wasnt that bad

[bitter sapphire]

my iem’s eartips never been cleaned

[queen spindle]

i think like a laptop + nice IEMS are a great combo for music production on the go

[wet coral]

i started out on the truthear zero;reds and man those gaped the fuck outta my ear canals

[queen spindle]

or for on stage

[wet coral]

got my astrals 1-2 weeks ago and i love their tuning

[queen spindle]

how long do you guys find you wear IEMs for ?

i dont think i could do it for more than a few hours

[bitter sapphire]

I can wear them 10-12 hours without issue

[queen spindle]

damn

ur ears must make like 0 earwax

😭

[bitter sapphire]

+- toilet and water break

[bitter sapphire]

I have a lot

[wet coral]

i had to rest my ears every 4 hours on the zero:reds because theyre just so wide, even after almost a year of use but on my astrals im fine running them the whole day basically

[bitter sapphire]

Yeah im fine with the Zero:Reds

[wet coral]

zero:reds are like 7mm wide and astrals are 6mm and on the smallest tip they have a good seal in my ears

[bitter sapphire]

I do use the smallest tip as well on reds

[queen spindle]

maybe i just never head ones with good tips but

[obtuse dove]

I cant tolerate anything being inside my ears for more than like 2 hours at a time

[queen spindle]

crincles iems also stopped working after a year of wearing them at school </3

[obtuse dove]

except airpods pro 3, those are somehow very comfortable for me

[wet coral]

keeping my astrals at home for pc use

[queen spindle]

tbf it was the kzs

[bitter sapphire]

I have to get another pair of zero reds

Or just another set of cables for my iem

[quasi field]

[wispy blaze]

whyb not

[bitter sapphire]

I would try out headsets again but my ears hate earcups

[queen spindle]

better soundstage

[wispy blaze]

i find iems absolutely gap any headphones ive tried for fps stuff

[queen spindle]

what headphones have you used?

theyre decent for positional audio since theyre right in your ear

[wispy blaze]

dt990 pro, hd599, and a boat load of dogshit "gamer" headsets

[queen spindle]

you didnt like the dt990 pro?

[wispy blaze]

no

[queen spindle]

why not

[wispy blaze]

sound worse than my zero reds and zero blue:2

[queen spindle]

define sound worse

[wispy blaze]

nowhere near as comfortable either

[wispy blaze]

idk how to define my iems sounding better to me

[quasi field]

Earbuds don't have soundstage. The soundstage you hear with them is just a result of the tuning and mix of whatever song you are listening to. So I agree that headphones are better in this way but I still only find the difference minor compared to loudspeakers

[wispy blaze]

my music sounded not only clearer but i could actually pickup more depth in songs using my iems

[queen spindle]

studio monitors > headphones > IEMS

[queen spindle]

thats because of the sound isolation

dont use open back headphones if you have a loud house lul

[wispy blaze]

it was dead silent...

but pop off king

[queen spindle]

who would win $50 chinese IEMS or $200 german headphones

[wispy blaze]

hate to break it to you but both me and all my buddies are taking the 50$ chinese iems

[quasi field]

I completely agree assuming ideal conditions. Studio monitors need a properly treated room or at least calibration for your listening position. And you need full range sound so ideally subwoofers unless you have giant monitors that reach far down. And you need very low ambient noise ofc.

[queen spindle]

yes

we have a studio room of sorts

[quasi field]

Price does not equal performance. There are $50 earbuds or $20 ones that sound better than multi thousand dollar American-made headphones (being made in a certain country doesn't mean they sound good either)

[queen spindle]

i was joking but my point is that tiny little iem speakers even right in your ear will never compare to headphones or studio monitors

[wispy blaze]

literally 6 of us tried my iems and the dt990 pros side by side and we all liked the iems more 😭

[queen spindle]

because of the sound isolation?

[wispy blaze]

were not sound nerds we dont know

[queen spindle]

im confused on how they would outperform headphones with worse specs

[wispy blaze]

we thought they sounded better

[quasi field]

That's probably because the DT990 isn't very great

[queen spindle]

better headphone than the dt 990?

[wispy blaze]

yeah i deff liked my hd599 more

than the 990 pros

[queen spindle]

you like closed back with high bass?

[quasi field]

It sounds overly sharp to a lot of people with little subbass and a boost at 200 Hz

[wispy blaze]

the hd599 is open back

[queen spindle]

look at the response for sony mdrs bro

this is what u want in studio headphones

[quasi field]

Which ones

[queen spindle]

7506

the ones every studio uses

[quasi field]

I'd rather get the HD560S. It's cheaper with a more controlled FR and less distortion

[quasi field]

That's really bad channel matching...

[bitter sapphire]

I love watching red and green lines go up and down

[queen spindle]

yeah they fucking suck

[round lagoon]

So a studio monitors with bad channel imbalanced?

[queen spindle]

you want headphones that dont have the bass cranked up "because sounds good"

[quasi field]

You do ideally want bass elevation

[queen spindle]

not for mixing

[quasi field]

«Flat» bass is not perceived as neutral sounding in headphones to most people

[queen spindle]

also the dt 990 pro x kind of clears the original dt 990

[quasi field]

My Astros EQed to the Harman 2018 curve + around 2 dBs of personal adjustment in the bass sounds almost exactly like my room calibrated Neumann KH 120 II speakers

Harman 2018 is clearly the most neutral sounding headphone target to most people

[quasi field]

Usually the people that disagree are just people that think bass being elevated above «flat» is somehow bad

[queen spindle]

yes the bass is lower than normal and the treble is a bit higher

doesnt make them garbage

the file you listen to is going to make more of a difference than the headphones atp

[quasi field]

Pro X?

[queen spindle]

what about them

[quasi field]

They seem better than the non X for sure but the treble is concerning

[queen spindle]

it sounds amazing on acoustic and brass

the one thing i liked about the sony 7506 even though they are tiring to listen to and kind of suck ass is how clearly each instrument is seperated

depending on the track mix

[quasi field]

I wouldn't like them without EQ

[quasi field]

Well yeah when they have such channel imbalance

[queen spindle]

if you prefer harman's "pleasantness" u probably wont enjoy the dt 990s

[quasi field]

I had the DT 990 Pros and they sounded low fidelity

[bitter sapphire]

Are there any “premium” headset that doesn’t need EQ

[queen spindle]

are we using spotify or webstreaming to base this tho

[quasi field]

I prefer a neutral sound which is what Harman 2018 is very close to for me

[quasi field]

I download CD rips

[queen spindle]

so 320?

[quasi field]

No flac

[queen spindle]

ah

[quasi field]

Even then so what. The difference between 320 kbps MP3 or something better like opus compared to flac is basically close to meaningless

[queen spindle]

i really dont think they are "low fidelity" they sound pretty close to my dads studio monitors so its probably just personal preference whether or not you like harman tuning

[quasi field]

Most people cannot even hear the difference

[quasi field]

Well your father's studio monitors might not even be good

The term studio monitor means nothing for the sound. Plenty of studio monitors have botched frequency responses with awful resonances

[queen spindle]

he mixed for the eagles

idk

https://tenor.com/view/aguhiyori-agu-seal-silly-cute-seal-slap-belly-gif-3854997204323775408

its probably pretty decent

[quasi field]

That still doesn't really tell me if the monitors are good. Many famous studio monitors have subpar performance

[queen spindle]

theyre no $20,000 neumanns

[quasi field]

These monitors were very popular in studios before for example

And I saw that in a photo posted by Death Grips recently they seemed to be using them in the studio. No wonder the music sounds so bad!

[queen spindle]

JBL 305P MkII Studio Monitor i think

before you flex ur $30,000 nneuman set up no im not a millionaire nor will i be spending that much on speakers

[obtuse dove]

oooo, I like

[quasi field]

My Neumanns are nowhere near $30 000

[urban granite]

got mies yesterday and they're great, personally stopped wearing headphones a couple years ago cause i tend to get oily skin and the headphones just soaks them up. That and the fact for me after using them for a long time it feels like a hydralic press squezzing my head together

its all just preferences :D