🌐│pc_gear

[patent siren]

also, 2x48GB is fairly challenging to push hard and tune for also

[rain turret]

whats budget tier about it exactly you think?

Just curious, not poking

[wispy blaze]

no ram is budget tier anymore 😭

[patent siren]

it was their lowest sku

[wispy blaze]

shits all giga expensive

[patent siren]

in terms of cost

[rain turret]

beside that obvious fact night

ohh just the cost, without attaching value to the item?

[patent siren]

yeah, I meant "budget tier" in terms of it wasn't their higher sku for binning, no RGB, no wild looking heat spreaders

[rain turret]

right okay

[patent siren]

just the no-nonsense 6000 CL30 2x48 96GB kit lowest cost option, plain Jane

[rain turret]

So the heatspreaders are most often than not meaningless, aswell as RGB (from the performance standpoint)
As in they increase the price significantly at every SKU up, but you don't get value returns on it.
Other than hey, this looks nicer, hey this has cool lights on it!
What i'm trying to highlight is that your most basic ass GSKILL Flare or Ripjaws will achieve the same OR more (if the lottery is similar), when compared to for example an RGB variant. Or rather the potential is the same and possibly higher.
Why? LEDs, heat, power.
The cooling you can always brute force extra, the basic heatspreaders are fine.

[patent siren]

yeah, I hate RGB

I don't need extra interference, extra power, extra signalling issues, extra BS

and I want the light to come from my monitor, not my damned case

[rain turret]

So then if lets say this AI boom garbo wasn't hitting right now, realistically you could get cheap DDR5 that clocks insanely well, without having to spend much.
Given that you want to OC rather than going for looks.
(and yes, i'm also a sucker for Trident Z Royals for example ^^)

[patent siren]

Lighted keys on the wooting (at a very low lighting level) are nice though, in red, or another unobtrusive color in the dark.

yeah trident z is a good line from g.skill

sadly, all of the fastest clocking stuff is often plagued with RGB

[rain turret]

But i decided that going forward i really don't care to have any LEDs on RAM, when it's only a hinder.
I can get light into the case, and i can get highest OC capability.

[rain turret]

They make the same bin in all heatspreaders, if you can't find it then thats a problem with the store/location.
But if you check GSKILLs website, i'm pretty sure you can find the same exact bins 100% of the time existing.
If for some reason this still would prove to be wrong, well it's still possible to strip those heatspreaders and apply a much more capable one without RGB (admittedly more work and not for the average user convenience)

I'm less sure for other brands, but logic dictates that should be true across all manufacturers

[patent siren]

probably true

I think what I got was fury renegade from kingston and it's been great

ohhhhh wait

it WAS kingston fury renede in the 32 GB kit which I gave to a friend

This is G.Skill FLARE which is a lower sku

[rain turret]

6000@CL30 is pretty okay, 6000@CL36 is the more common, so in a sense yours is already slightly better than average

Flare can be okay, but what specs?

[patent siren]

already linked the spec 6000 CL30 2x48 GB and these are my timings which are mostly just stock except tREFI and ensuring 1T

flarex5 the kingston was the smaller kit, same CL

[rain turret]

My bad, i thought since you just realised it's a different kit, that you remembered the old specs

[patent siren]

oof a cable came down

I forgot to put a tiny ziptie on that one

[rain turret]

https://www.gskill.com/product/165/396/1731653457/F5-6000J3036F48GX2-FX5 cool kit

ohh wait, 2x48 actually, woops

[patent siren]

it's just like that but 96 yes

https://www.gskill.com/product/165/396/1731653457/F5-6000J3036F48GX2-FX5

that kit

love the heat spreader on it, just functional, not wild on branding or fins or shit

[rain turret]

At that capacity it is more impressive to have this work on XMP/DOCP, because even that is not exactly light on the IMC
Although i could be underselling it.

[patent siren]

yup, is what I was saying

and it's going great on EXPO, you can see my timings, they're modest, other than tREFI being maxed (I have no heat issues), and other than pulling off 1T

but at 96 GB "modest 6000 CL30 " is still solid

[rain turret]

And you shouldn't, on XMP/DOCP the provided heatspreader should be enough to handle the kit.

[patent siren]

tREFI at 65565 or whatever the max is, is known to heat up RAM though

[rain turret]

How much of it's capacity do you get to realistically use?

[patent siren]

65535

[patent siren]

whenever I'm doing olmocr, all of it

or damned near

[rain turret]

i see

[patent siren]

olmocr absolutely must have 32 GB VRAM on the GPU and absolutely must have 64 GB system RAM to even run without crashing

it likes having a bit more

WSL has some overhead there

so it just runs much nicer at 96

I could actually change my workload sizes to reduce the system RAM load, but it's less efficient

when gaming, it sits between 18 and 24 GB system ram used and the rest of the ram unused

[rain turret]

I had a quick peek at it, seems accurate

But mostly unfamiliar territory for me

[patent siren]

I'm converting thousands of PDFs into MD files for use in obsidian.

and olmocr is fantastic for that. Probably the onyl really useful use for "AI" I have.

[rain turret]

Not sure what obsidian is, but if this is adequate for the workflow, then it all makes perfect sense.

[proper turret]

will using 9800x3d with 6400 32cl make my game stutter?

[patent siren]

no lol

though you might not be able to do UCLK=MCLK=3200 and you might not be able to run FCLK above 2000 (and almost guaranteed not to get it to 2200)

[proper turret]

this my first pc so i honestly dont know what any of this means

but i heard people say they had mirco stutters dealing with the 6400 32cl and 9800x3d so i wanted to make sure

[proper turret]

so is 6000 or 6400 better

[proper vector]

For AMD? Whichever is cheaper is better
No real difference between the two

[proper turret]

yes AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D

[proper turret]

what do you recommend? 32cl or lower

[proper vector]

6000C30 or 6400C32, that makes them the same latency

[proper turret]

oh

what about 28

cl

[jolly pulsar]

Just get what's cheapest

Rn with current prices its not worth paying extra

I go back to bed

[proper vector]

[proper vector]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-love-live-anime-kitten-kitty-gif-5239935973416162652

happy sleeps :3

[proper turret]

another question why do benchmarks always 1080p?

[jolly pulsar]

Because there's no difference at 1440p or 4k

Lol

[proper turret]

when everyone runs 1440p

[jolly pulsar]

They simulate being cpu bound

[proper turret]

1080 and 1440 the same?

[jolly pulsar]

To show the worse case scenario

[proper vector]

1080p mostly stresses CPU and RAM, 1440p/4K mostly stresses GPU

[proper turret]

ahhh ok ok thanks i understand

[jolly pulsar]

Meaning at 1440p or 4k... the difference will be... none

Because you'll be gpu bound anyways

[patent siren]

I experienced that with my specific rig, but yours may be different. I can't say what's better. You'd have to try both.

[jolly pulsar]

With current ram prices its better to just not bother

Literally

[patent siren]

that too

[jolly pulsar]

Whatever is 32gb and cheap

[patent siren]

6000 CL30
Done

[jolly pulsar]

not even

[proper turret]

my ram is $350 .-.

[jolly pulsar]

The prices are stupid

[patent siren]

yeah now is NOT the time to buy RAM or flash

don't go buying nvmes

don't go buying ram

[jolly pulsar]

Literally i'd run 5600cl40 if i was speccing out a build rn

[patent siren]

(unless you have none and absolutely need it)

[jolly pulsar]

Just whatever is cheap

[proper turret]

i have to since its my first pc sadly

[jolly pulsar]

Honestly

[jolly pulsar]

Then get some 5600 32gb kit

Or whatever you can get

That's cheap

[proper turret]

will that even stabilize a 9800 with a 5070 ti

[jolly pulsar]

4% performance at 1080p is not worth a premium at all

[jolly pulsar]

It wont matter you have an x3d chip

[proper turret]

ohhhh ok

[jolly pulsar]

And you said you olay at 1440

[proper turret]

yes

[jolly pulsar]

Literally you won't even notice

[patent siren]

yup

[jolly pulsar]

Between a cheaper kit and a more expensive one

[proper turret]

gpu dont play a hand when it comes to ram? only cpu?

[jolly pulsar]

Just get what's cheap and 32gb

[patent siren]

could even do 24 if you wanted

[proper vector]

CPU has RAM, GPU has VRAM

[proper turret]

my gpu is 16 vram so good enough

[proper vector]

For 1440p it's good

May just hit the limit in very extreme cases of 4K

[proper turret]

i dont plan on gaming 4k

so its ok

[bitter sapphire]

4k gaming is still stupid imo

[past dome]

4k gaming that's worth it only applies to games that don't need that many fps. So usually single player story driven games

[bitter sapphire]

Even with that games are not optimized enough for me to justify the price to performance

[patent siren]

I really like 4k gaming for story, older titles and such, but it's definitely expensive to do

[solid urchin]

Any Sound Interface recommendations?

[quasi field]

What functionality do you need?

[solid urchin]

I have no clue, I got a headset with 250 ohm and a microphone with doesn’t have usb connection so i need to connect both to my Pc and someone told me I need an sound interface for that

[quasi field]

You should have bought a USB microphone and non-Beyerdynamic DT990/770 headphones imo

[solid urchin]

Your right hahah but I got it from a friend

But do you have recommendations?

[proper vector]

Isn't it just 2 audio jacks?

[quasi field]

What microphone do you have?

[quasi field]

I assume he needs 48 volt phantom power

[proper vector]

In a headset?

[quasi field]

He probably means headphones

He said 250 ohm so it's probably a Beyerdynamic DT990/770

[solid urchin]

Rode nt1 5th gen

[solid urchin]

Jo, 990 pro

[proper vector]

It does have USB-C

[blissful gust]

Or don't get beyerdynamic at all

[proper vector]

Inside XLR jack

[blissful gust]

That's interesting...

[solid urchin]

I know, but I think I have to get one anyway because of the headset

[quasi field]

Why? Just get USB-C to A cable

[terse ferry]

Why there is usb c port in my xlr port

[proper vector]

If you can return it, I'd suggest to do so and pick 32 or 80 version instead
If not, well, any cheap interface will do, I have Minifuse 1, is nice

[solid urchin]

But that doesn’t solve my headset problem or am I stupid ?

[quasi field]

Sorry I misunderstood. I thought you were saying you don't have enough USB-C ports on your computer or something

[solid urchin]

I have a look but I don’t think so.

Thanks a lot

[solid urchin]

No problem.

I have to get one because of the 990 pro and then I also can connect the microphone.

[quasi field]

I never understood why people default for the 250 ohm version over the other ones. I remember Solderdude (owner of diyaudioheaven) said the only differences are very small differences in bass elevation, and I assume that could just as well come down to unit variation. Why go for the harder to run one? I think it's some higher impedance = better sounding myth or something

[proper vector]

32 for PC, 80 if you have interface, 250 if for studio, because there's very powerful equipment there
There's no bigger number = better

[terse ferry]

Well if you want high Ohm you need a dac and amplifier

[quasi field]

This still doesn't make sense to me. Why would you ever pick a harder to run version over the easier to run one even if you can no problem run both

[proper vector]

I'd be a bit scared to plug 32 to studio equipment, they may pop
But 80 is pretty universal

[crude talon]

what are they cooking
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FixupX · Nov 21, 2025, 7:43 AM

[bitter sapphire]

I know a few osu players who uses that headset

And even i was looking at the DT 770 32ohm version before i choose the Zero:Red iem

[quasi field]

Beyerdynamic lives on with their 20 year old headphones using 40 year old technology through the magic of amateur YouTube mixers recommending it and it all snowballs from there

[solid urchin]

Then what would you recommend?

[bitter sapphire]

But i just said no to an open-back headset as my family is loud time to time

+i dont like using EQ for stuff

And my ears doesn’t do well under earcups

[quasi field]

EQ is sadly the reality for over-ear headphones

Tuning a headphone requires compromises. The final step is on the consumer

Lots of open-back planar headphones are not flat in the bass because that's the «goal» but because it's simply a compromise. It's hard to get properly elevated bass in these open-back designs. And so it falls on the end user to «finish» the headphones

[proper vector]

I'd say my Arya v3s are really bassy

[bitter sapphire]

I never cared about the sound quality on headsets

[quasi field]

I wouldn't

I was always underwhelmed by the bass on my Aryas

Flat bass simply does not sound neutral/correct

Even had the Organics which has somewhat of an elevation but it's still not there yet

[proper vector]

Ew, no, I hate headband on XS

[quasi field]

Yeah though the meme does mention improving it

I'm not a huge fan of eggman designs in general. The overly long shape presses against my jaw

[round lagoon]

still surprised by this lmao

[quasi field]

And I think it causes a light seal break though thankfully these headphones perform very well with seal-breaks unlike closed-backs

[proper vector]

I just don't like that the adjusters are so loose that even shaking my head is enough for them to click lower

[patent siren]

😂 Newegg and Amazon raising prices on NVMe then posting black Friday sales that are 1-9% higher than NVMe prices two weeks ago.

"bruh, look at that discount"

[rain turret]

Out of this world marketing

[lunar niche]

Always, always check camelcamelcamel.com

[crisp nimbus]

what gaming mouses would yall recommend? my budget is around 120 dollars, and i like using palm orclaw grip

[hazy fiber]

Lamzu Maya X

[crisp nimbus]

thank you

one more thing, one of my irl friends told me to get the WL beast x mini, how is that one?

[hazy fiber]

Mini might be too small if you plan to use palm grip

There are bigger versions

BeastX Pro and Max

[crisp nimbus]

ah i see it right now

[hazy fiber]

It's a great mouse

[crisp nimbus]

would u say the beast x or the lamzu is better?

[rain turret]

my personal list, if it provides you any inspiration

[hazy fiber]

I really liked my BeastX Pro. Great clicks, build quality, scroll wheel, web software, performance

[crisp nimbus]

ty 🫡

[hazy fiber]

If you decide to get it, grab solid sides version

[crisp nimbus]

ah ok

[hazy fiber]

I hated side slits

[crisp nimbus]

tysm

yea side slits looks bad icl

found 1 on amazon for 120 dollars

[hazy fiber]

Pro? Non pro is previous version with older sensor

[crisp nimbus]

pro

https://www.amazon.com/SMACKAPE-Milky-White-Switch-Side-Slits/dp/B0DXFG6M25/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3VRV0JSUM8GIB&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.mO91u7gK2BQLB_wEryRZV0ZoaMMd-b-DRbkR95o04WWOd_Pc7DTDlI9TwBG5aHG-kl2z0Hu0EtKE1HyR_hcKYdfmFi2xBRWaQlaLXRhq9_8qYBFvZHqfgJNhCZRQNrIuR2xW3_8rntrssmpD2d-4aGb0v8MeMa10OCGOIM-xks08O46Ii4XobsAucwO9Bxc2qiIg9ZnKs3dDB9ZXxY8LwohaYHqbe4-IO6kvW8YF5kk.aG2ostOaCdpW8PDpJeUbETDj6GL-E3iLHOFeV_BWwVk&dib_tag=se&keywords=Beast%2Bx%2Bpro&qid=1763747904&sprefix=beast%2Bx%2Bpro%2Caps%2C135&sr=8-3&th=1

only thing is i dont know the seller

[hazy fiber]

Good price

[crisp nimbus]

its KBM gadgets

yea

[hazy fiber]

Forgot to mention, make sure to get it with Omron optical switches

They feel really good

[crisp nimbus]

🫡

damn the superlight really had a downful huh

i feel like no one talks about it anymore
🤣

[rain turret]

Because you can get the same internals or better and a lighter mouse for half the price lol

[crisp nimbus]

yea ur right lmao

[rain turret]

Thats what i mean't with "rat race"

[crisp nimbus]

whats the ATK brand?

[rain turret]

They also make mice

[hazy fiber]

You can also check out Pulsar X2 Crazylight medium

I think there's a sale right now

Great mouse

[crisp nimbus]

yea its 109.99 rn

[hazy fiber]

I have mini and love the shape, medium is a bit bigger

[crisp nimbus]

ah

u use claw grip im guessing?

[hazy fiber]

yah

https://www.eloshapes.com use this site to compare shapes

[crisp nimbus]

ok

right now i have a superlight that ive had for at least 4 years and love the shape

wow they are really similar in shape

[hazy fiber]

Maya X has similar shape

But it's lighter, has better clicks and scroll wheel

[crisp nimbus]

yea BRO

[hazy fiber]

Also good web software

[crisp nimbus]

the logitech scroll wheel is so ass

actually

the more i think about it i use claw

[wet coral]

superlight side buttons are fucking buns

[crisp nimbus]

im looking at reddit and this is almost exactly how i use my mouse

[rain turret]

A9 Ultimate is also superlight shape, if you wanted to take a look

[crisp nimbus]

yea they arent the best

[wet coral]

atk is mostly just chineseium clones of popular mouses

[crisp nimbus]

ah

[rain turret]

Yeah, but quite good and affordable

[patent siren]

Happy with SL2 DEX

People go crazy about mice

[rain turret]

CrazyLight inspo

[crisp nimbus]

yea very similar

now that i think about it

i claw grip

[hazy fiber]

not really similar, but crazylight can work better for claw

[crisp nimbus]

yea

im between the crazylight, the maya x and the beast x pro

or i could get the crazylight mini on best buy for 100 dollars

and i save 18 bucks because i have a bestbuy gift card

[hazy fiber]

Mini is very small

[crisp nimbus]

yea its a bit smaller

[hazy fiber]

Just a comparison

[crisp nimbus]

what is the mouse on the left?

[hazy fiber]

Viper is basically GPX size

Viper v3 Pro

[crisp nimbus]

gah dam

that is a big difference 😭

[hazy fiber]

Yeah, if you're not sure then probably safer to get Medium or just Maya X/BeastX Pro

[crisp nimbus]

yea im giving up on the mini versions after seeing that 😭

[hazy fiber]

[crude talon]

I kinda wanna get a mini cl, but yeah probably not the best claw option unless your hands are really small

[crisp nimbus]

yea lmao

[hazy fiber]

My hands aren't small but I can claw it comfortably

[plain schooner]

I want the mini so bad

I think that would be the sweet spot VV3P

[hazy fiber]

mod kit?

[crisp nimbus]

these are all the options

icl leaning more towards the pulsar since its cheaper

[hazy fiber]

Personally I didn't like the sides of the BeastX, I prefer flatter sides like Pulsar

[plain schooner]

Yeah I kinda regret getting the pulse

[hazy fiber]

Wire

[plain schooner]

I don’t mind the wire lol I got the really thin light wire so it does feel wireless, but I think I prefer the shape

Of the Zen8K

[hazy fiber]

yea mini is nice

[plain schooner]

Perfect sweet spot inbetween

[hazy fiber]

I want to try it

[plain schooner]

Cause the pulse feels a tiny bit small

[hazy fiber]

you can't return it?

[plain schooner]

Idk if to get the mini with the solid sides or light like the regular one

[plain schooner]

I don’t think so

[hazy fiber]

oof

[plain schooner]

I’m still using it, but when I went back to the Zen8K it felt fucking massive

[hazy fiber]

yeah going back to viper from crazylight feels weird

it's huge

[plain schooner]

Vv4p when

[hazy fiber]

vv4p mini

[crude talon]

gwolves hasn’t responded in a bit to my return, I wish maxgaming carried the hsk pro so I could shop there instead

[crisp nimbus]

now im thinking

since my parents r divorced is the mouse gonna feel weird in the house that doesnt have the new mouse

[wet coral]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-butler-jimmy-butler-paper-confused-gif-14478007832172093541

[round lagoon]

let him cook

[crisp nimbus]

😭

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-smh-laughing-laugh-gif-16005642344163940773

[abstract warren]

‘Yuge

https://tenor.com/view/sponge-bob-brick-sponge-bob-square-pants-like-a-bag-of-bricks-like-a-ton-of-bricks-gif-4475886

[deep hawk]

Bro uncalled for

[lament siren]

mb for the distasteful joke

[round lagoon]

oh man, divine for 50% of the price used.

o fuck, genuinely tempted

[lament siren]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[round lagoon]

I already spent close to $100 on switches this month 😭

[abstract warren]

Rookie numbers chief

[round lagoon]

I mean yeah. But I'm still not sure if I'll like the IEM

[quasi field]

https://tenor.com/view/obiwan-star-wars-dont-try-it-ewan-mc-gregor-revenge-of-the-sith-gif-7971802

[round lagoon]

is it bad?

[quasi field]

Idk. It's just that I know you'll sell it in a month anyway

[round lagoon]

nah, the only IEM i hate is SM4

You know what, I'll grab it in a day if there's nobody getting it

It's basically 7hz zero 2 upgraded with less bass. Got it tuned by Crin which makes it more than worthy to be called as such. Zero 2 imo is a nice IEM tuning wise, not soo much everything else but I gladly use it in a pinch.

[round lagoon]

Nice nice. Enjoy your IEM

Maybe you should get $1000 cable and dac to go along with it

[silver topaz]

Peak Newegg shipping😎

[wet coral]

ez $300 right there

[abstract warren]

its not everyday someone one ups my Top Pros

very nais

[wet coral]

at what cost

[abstract warren]

available upon request

gonna see if i can cop a JDS element 5 DAC over the holidays

[wet coral]

do i wanna know what that is

[abstract warren]

costs probably about the same as your PC lets say

more expensive than all of my sets combined roughly

as someone that likes to spend money im impressed

[wet coral]

pc total is 2.15k

[silver topaz]

Literally what they cost lmao

[abstract warren]

more expensive than your PC @wet coral

$3k type shiii

[wet coral]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-my-honest-reaction-damn-skull-skeleton-gif-15885937969029652188

[abstract warren]

makes my gear look affordable

[wet coral]

makes astrals look affordable at 1/10th of the cost

tf

[abstract warren]

Makes astrals look like the Nigerian prince hexas

hopefully they got fire tuning

[quasi field]

Horrible

Even for $5 these are bad

Assuming these are the same as what he bought

Why is it so jagged and low-fidelity?

Compare it to real earbuds like these:

$3000 btw

https://tenor.com/view/monogatari-monogatari-series-kizumonogatari-tsubasa-hanekawa-gif-20263384

What do you think about them?

Fast decaying lol

Just the typical audiophile descriptions of frequency response phenomena that tickle me

[lunar niche]

24h on the 490pro, digging them. A bit much on the low end as a 600 enjoyer, but it's a fun alternative.

I could probably become adjusted to these pretty easily

[quasi field]

But iems are as minimum-phase as it can get. So there's no decay etc.
Instead it's just a subjective description of the FR

[fleet mirage]

Heyo, new here. How are we all?

I was wondering, from experience what’s been the best software or technique to monitor your PCs performance I.e overall temp and hardware under load?

[lunar niche]

HWInfo64

And if you want an in-game overlay you'd need RTSS to pull data from hwinfo

[lament siren]

take a pic

been looking at TL version

undress it from the box

i need to see those fans with my naked eyes

[lunar niche]

Show me those hands Goku

That's a whole lotta airflow

[fleet mirage]

Awesome, I’ll give that a look. Thank you

[merry raptor]

Got my first glass pad as a gift from a friend, Wallhack CR-005

[rain turret]

How is it so far?

[merry raptor]

Seems cool, haven't gamed with it yet

[abstract warren]

https://tenor.com/view/running-run-away-fall-slip-gif-24136540

[round lagoon]

Alright, bought the divine

[oblique totem]

Just got mine and it lives up to its name

[round lagoon]

we'll see, it's going to be my first planar IEM

[oblique totem]

i was on prx before and i had to torture it into shape with eq

this was my corrections lel

so far havent run into any pain on the divine

[round lagoon]

umu noice, seems like it wont be too bad then treble wise

[oblique totem]

wow both my test tracks for treble issues are near flawless

[latent heart]

Hi guys i will buy a pc soon and i dont have compo so pls someone can tell me one of the best compo for 1600 € plss

[astral musk]

https://dk.pcpartpicker.com/guide/

Always a good place to start.

[round lagoon]

https://youtu.be/g-Bc_AT_xrw

def an IEM

[astral musk]

https://tenor.com/view/you-what-wtf-disgusted-repulsed-reaction-gif-9521897686579036997

[lunar niche]

Are those 45s?

[round lagoon]

Kinda looks like one, but it's a way to turn headphones into iem

[lunar niche]

Ahh I think I've seen someone try something like these (or these) before. Wacky stuff.

[quasi field]

testufo CRT shader got updated

https://testufo.com/crt#simulatedhz=60

This looks so damn good on my 240 Hz display

60 fps looks quite good as long as persistence is kept low

[lunar niche]

au natural

[quasi field]

Meh

I sold my CRT for a reason!

Well several actually

[lunar niche]

they have their drawbacks. many.

I would love a true modern one of moderate size (17" or so) and all the modern inputs

[quasi field]

Good flatscreens will be much better than CRTs for old games as well imo. At very high resolutions there can be highly detailed filters. And at very high refresh rates you'll get overall similar eye-tracking motion clarity

And can avoid really noticeable phosphor decay

[lunar niche]

On this we disagree, but it's all preference

At least I still haven't found a filter to match for some older games

[quasi field]

My CRT was a very high quality one and I've been able to create identical looking experiences with emulator filters on 4k oleds

[lunar niche]

nice

[quasi field]

The CRT kind of just looked like an emulator at times because the image was so sharp as opposed to those super blurry pictures you see online

It looked like the right but with very clear horizontal lines

Not blurry like left. You need an older «worse» one to get that

[lunar niche]

All preference. CRTs just look like how games looked when I was a kid, pleasant to go back to.

[bitter ore]

damn the left looks great ngl

the shading esp

[quasi field]

This is a pic I took of mine

This is Gamecube Code Veronica at 480p (screen cannot do below 480)

Wish I had a real camera and not just a shitty hard to focus phone

But as you see it's very sharp

[lunar niche]

You don't have to convince me of how CRTs look, I played on them for a long time 🙂

Though I'd argue they are fairly difficult to capture how they look IRL via photography

[astral musk]

More like impossible. Even if you can match the refresh rate with a good camera, it never looks quite the same.

Because you're going from CRT to real life, back into an LCD

[quasi field]

I had no problems matching refresh rate with my phone

[astral musk]

Yes - Ignoring half of what someone says always works wonders. 😄

Not having refresh lines interfere is only part of the challenge.

[obtuse dove]

I just had to

was 450 off on bestbuy, one left at the local store, had to cop it

[crude talon]

very nice

what are you upgrading from? I got an oled recently and it was a pretty big upgrade from my previous monitor

[round lagoon]

Enjoy your monitor!

32 inch monitor is always nice

[obtuse dove]

32 inch 4k is amazing

[round lagoon]

2k is good enough to me, but yeh, more always better

[obtuse dove]

perfect pixel density tbh

makes reading documents way easier

[crude talon]

I really liked using a 27” 4k screen

went with a 1440p 27” but I think asus was releasing a 27” 4k oled

[obtuse dove]

I got this to replace my LG Ultrager VA panel that started to develop backlight flickering after a good 8 years of use, this isn't my first rodeo with OLED panels though.

iirc it was 1440p 144Hz

32 inch

[crude talon]

most of my devices have been oled but my desktop had a nice 24” 1080p 60hz tn monitor

[quasi field]

Ahem

[patent siren]

They did. It's pretty small for a 4k though.

32 inch 4k is a nice size.

At 27" and below, I'd not want 4k

[crude talon]

I really enjoyed 4k at that size, 1440p is fine but if money was no object I would've wanted a 4k model at the same size

[patent siren]

At 27"?

How close is the screen to your eyes?

I guess I could see a case for it if it's really close and you can see the pixels.

[vital gorge]

For text 4k at 27 inch is close, but still not enough

[patent siren]

I don't find 27" 1440p pixel density to be too coarse myself, but if you can still see individual pixels in motion, then sure.

Also for text, a LOT of that is more font based than it is pixel density based.

There are some fonts that are just terrible on screens at certain font sizes and panel resolutions.

[vital gorge]

Look at your phone super high dpi screen. Now look at your monitor

[crude talon]

I don't have to think 1440p was too coarse to think 4k was nicer at the same size

1440p is great and that's what I settled for

[patent siren]

Ok

[wide zinc]

45" 5k2k is where its at

[patent siren]

I'm still waiting for 100-120" 4k OLED to come down in price for my living room.

I have this beautiful color accuracy plasma 60" 1080p that refuses to die and I just can't justify a 4k panel unless I go big for it. Plasma is just such a good picture quality.

[alpine bobcat]

Any budget 300hz 1080p monitor?

[rain turret]

Nvm, you want smaller

[alpine bobcat]

24.5

Or 25

[lunar niche]

OOC have you tried OLED yet? I was also a plasma man before the switch.

[patent siren]

I have an OLED 32" 4k monitor on my PC that I love also

I DO want an OLED 4k for my home theatre and gaming on big screen

However, not a 60" to view at 10 ft

If I'm going to have 4k resolution on an OLED at 10 ft viewing distance, because of pixel density, I want a 90+ inch screen

[lunar niche]

I couldn’t fathom having such a big screen 😃

[patent siren]

I feel like at 10 ft that 1080p 60" is pretty great and that at 4k, I'd be wasting pixel density for no real benefit

I can't fathom the cost of the 100+ inch OLEDs

[lunar niche]

I think it pushes the edge of what consumers are buying. I hear of 80” sometimes, but 100 or more I usually hear in the context of projectors

We’re at 10’ 4k 55”, I think 65 would be swell but probably wouldn’t go higher personally

[patent siren]

a 65" 4k would look great at about 5 ft viewing distance lol

I need something for 10 ft viewing distance

[lunar niche]

We’re at 10’ 😭

I guess if you’re really going for a theater like experience

Mine’s in the living room so not quite the same

[obtuse dove]

also some sub-pixel layouts makes text look absolutely horrific

like some QD-OLED panels have terrible sub-pixel layouyts that makes text look really fringed and sometimes hard to read, but on WOLED panels usually their sub-pixel layouts are much more forgiving for reading text.

[patent siren]

yeah fonts get really nuanced and so do color pixel arrangements

and this is why phones are super high res, because the viewing distances on phones are also MUCH closer than your monitor or TV

[obtuse dove]

yeah

[patent siren]

and fonts for the UI are very carefully chosen

so that they scale beautifully

[obtuse dove]

yeah, and not like times new roman LMAO

which I read a lot of

[patent siren]

Times New Roman is a great font for printed media.

It's a horrible font for digitally displayed media.

[obtuse dove]

yeah but it doesnt help that all the research papers I read use it LMAO

[patent siren]

Things like Arial and other sans serif fonts are much better for digital media.

[obtuse dove]

there was one time where I forgot to change the font of one of my research papers before turning it in and the TA took points off because of that. 😭

[patent siren]

yeah, an actual research paper that's going to be published needs to be presented in a manner that can be printed and published accordingly

Though if you want to be really proactive about good research paper etiquette, you create two versions of the paper, one for digital media consumption and continuous scrolling using a good sans serif font and then another that is paginated with a serif font for printed published media.

[obtuse dove]

yeah, thankfully I was able to get an extension from my professor and change the font to get those points back.

[patent siren]

It's really funny when you're submitting papers that have explicit margin requirements, and then you make mistakes when you print, like using "fit to page" instead of absolute scale printing.

The ruler comes out and you get massive deductions for improper margin, header, or footer sizes.

[obtuse dove]

yeah

[visual parcel]

Im interested in getting a mouse

But the asus is pissing me off with having to order off amazon, are there any super good mice that i dont need to deal with amazons bull?

[wispy blaze]

Checkout lamzu, wlmouse, pulsar, razer

Tons of other brands I cant think of

[visual parcel]

Okay thanks. I just cant trust reviews anymore everything is sponsored

[visual parcel]

Wich brand would you personally recocmend? For a more premium best on the matket vibe

[wispy blaze]

I have been maining a wlmouse beastx max for a while, had a few lamzus and all were great

Pulsar makes nice mice but their firmware isnt the greatest

[wispy blaze]

Here's my beastx max

[visual parcel]

Have the holes been any uncomfortable?

They look a bit big

[wispy blaze]

nah the back ones arent

if you palm grip then maybe it wont be as comfortable

[visual parcel]

Yeah

Im super palm grippy

[wispy blaze]

id recommend a maya x then

from lamzu

my brother just got his 2 days ago and he loves it (coming from a gpx)

[visual parcel]

I wish they had a colour that goes well with dark blue

I got the 60he+ wooting with the dark blue caps

Im also kinda wanting something to look nice with that

[wispy blaze]

could always go black

[visual parcel]

Yeah

I think black would seem best

[wispy blaze]

black and dark blue never looks bad together imo

[visual parcel]

How long did the order take?

[visual parcel]

Truth

[wispy blaze]

it was about 6 days i think

to canada

[visual parcel]

Im in canada so sweet

Fuck it il buy it

Thanks for the help appreciate it

[wispy blaze]

i highly doubt you wont really enjoy it

its a great mouse

[visual parcel]

Did your brother tip them?

😭 im not sure if il get a broken mouse or sum if i dont tip them

[wispy blaze]

i would imagine no

[visual parcel]

I really hate when companies do that.. tip before the service

[wispy blaze]

knowing him, absolutely not

yeah

especially for a service that isnt really something worth tipping over

[visual parcel]

Like, id be a LOT happier to tip you after you did a great job and im happy. Not when i feel like il have shit service if i dont

Fuck it i wont tip

[wispy blaze]

yeah it wont effect anything

id imagine 99.99 percent of people dont

[visual parcel]

Idk

😭 i almost aways tip cuz im worried id get treated worse for not

Thats the soul reason i despise tip before service

It feels like instead of "hey thanks for the great service" its more "please dont spit on my mouse"

[prisma heath]

anybody know where to get 2x16gb of ddr5 ram for less than $200 😭

[past dome]

Not possible. You can thank AI

[shy igloo]

@hazy fiber enjoyed my raiden soft xl enough that i just ordered an xxl mid and some jade dots to try

and might get some more of the artisan dots if the jades are too fast on the mid raiden

[hazy fiber]

I'm using raiden for a year now and it's a bit slower, want to order some magic ice skates

I heard they're really good

I hate dots on cloth, they never feel as good as full size skates

[shy igloo]

i have magic ice and tiger ice in my cart, gonna see how the jades are

i’ve been using the artisan dots on my raiden soft and zero soft

wanna try something a bit faster so went with jades and mid

[crude talon]

haven’t had any problems with artisan dots even on an xsoft pad, but those are a little bit bigger than most dots

[obtuse dove]

Kinda also depends on your grip style, some people push their mice into the pad more than others

[crude talon]

yeah regular 6.5mm dots, mine are from xraypad, are horrible and sink in so much

[visual parcel]

As somone who isnt super versed in pc tech this convo seems like js random words

What on earth are 6.5 mm dots and a radien soft xl

[hazy fiber]

Mouse skates and mousepad

[visual parcel]

Ah ty

[crisp nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/nle-choppa-nle-dance-off-clone-goofy-gif-628221865622194263

should i upgrade my superlight 1?

[wet coral]

yes its bunions

[crisp nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/no-lies-national-geographic-not-lying-telling-the-truth-gif-4483366

[wispy blaze]

If you somewhat like the shape, can try Maya x

[crisp nimbus]

yea im prolly gonna get the pulsar x2 crazylight

[wet coral]

hitscan hyperlight a good choice too
and its cheaper

relatively the same shape but the front of the crazylight is a little lower

[obtuse dove]

medium or small?

[crisp nimbus]

alr thanks for the recommendation

[crisp nimbus]

medium

[wet coral]

oh hyperlight is the same size as crazylight mini

[obtuse dove]

oh, hitscan hyperlighjt is smaller than the Crazylight medium

[crisp nimbus]

aah

[obtuse dove]

or I should say X2 medium

since the X2 and X2CL medium are the exact same shape

and well, X2eS as well

man pulsar makes a shit ton of mice

[crisp nimbus]

yea i feel like the x2 cl mini is too small

[obtuse dove]

yeah then just stick with X2CL medium

[crisp nimbus]

👍

[plain schooner]

@abstract warren @hazy fiber I’m about to pull the trigger on the Viper Mini

god help me

[bitter ore]

why are you shooting a mouse?

[hazy fiber]

zen8k mini?

[plain schooner]

Yeh!

They’re on sale right now 20% off

It’s still 300$

[hazy fiber]

I need 40g viper mini signature edition v2

Razer

[plain schooner]

Mine should weigh around 33.8g

[hazy karma]

logitech g502 is where its at

[glossy shale]

mossad agent

caboose more like cabal

[hazy karma]

g502 is 10/10 mouse and i will never switch

[hazy karma]

hating cus you're Finnish and Sweden is just superior

[glossy shale]

now you made it personal, you are DONE

I might be finnish but you are FINISHED

[proper vector]

I don't think anyone but Swedes in EU think that Sweden is superior

[hazy fiber]

Superglide glasspads for $50😳

[crude talon]

https://tenor.com/view/g502-gif-23544331

[sudden frigate]

Hi guys - are there any alternatives for v3/v4 pro or sl2 in terms of performance for competitive gaming? Currently I own hitscan and its been performing great

[patent siren]

If what you own is great, then why look for alternatives?

[wispy blaze]

100 bucks for the meme size 👀

[patent siren]

... I got my glass skates for $16

[wispy blaze]

glass skates are dogshit

especially so compared to a glass pad

they will never compare to a glass pad with ptfe skates

[crude talon]

For absolute best performance endgame gears wired 8k options are probably the best
I think rtings tests mice but I’m not sure if they have everything recent, but I think even most recent budget mice should perform well with good polling stability and low click latency, but you can always check reviews if you’re concerned about a specific model

[crude talon]

cloth pad destroyer

[wispy blaze]

• entirely dependant on humidity

[crude talon]

and they turn to mud after a few weeks

[wispy blaze]

yeah i wasnt a fan when i tried them

[crude talon]

Same

[patent siren]

So far, glass skates on a plastic Logitech pad is working awesome.

[round lagoon]

https://youtu.be/ckmMM9ty6YU

seems alright

[obtuse dove]

Glass pad with POM skates is the best combo ngl.

[round lagoon]

though I prefer Dunu 242 tuning more

[sudden frigate]

Dont want to change at the moment, just looking for opinion of others on this topic. I think the difference between my current mouse and other endgame ones are is not visible to the eye

[patent siren]

Glass pad would just catch all is my arm and palm and wrist oils and become a mess.

[proper vector]

Do not pick mouse based on specs, but based on your grip and how it feels in your hand
Currently any half-decent gaming mouse will have a good sensor
And comparisons between 50G vs 70G acceleration for example make no sense when you can't ever achieve that
Just make sure it has 4k/8k polling, that's all

[wispy blaze]

if you think this you should see how nasty your cloth pads actually are

glass pads not only dont get as dirty by an order of magnitude, they are 10x easier to clean

[patent siren]

As stated, using plastic pad.

[wispy blaze]

literally takes 2 minutes with soapy water and a cloth/paper towel

[wispy blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-butler-jimmy-butler-paper-confused-gif-14478007832172093541

[patent siren]

Read this

[crude talon]

16 bucks for 1 set of skates is kinda crazy
I think lgg has glass skates on sale for 0.99 right now for Black Friday

[obtuse dove]

Long sleeves/arm sleeve is kind of required for a glass pad lmao

[wispy blaze]

if you have a ac unit in your room its not

80% of my playtime on my glass pad was without a sleeve/no long sleeve

[obtuse dove]

People have naturally occurring oils that are produced which has the same effect as sweating

On a glass pad

[wispy blaze]

i still mostly never used one and it was fine most of the time

[obtuse dove]

Mostly same

[wispy blaze]

and the times it wasnt i just threw a hoodie on

[obtuse dove]

Real yeah

[wispy blaze]

i think my brother rarely ever uses one on his skypad as well

[patent siren]

Plastic pad and glass skates vs glass pad and plastic skates is the same friction.

The difference is the plastic pad isn't sticking to my skin like glass does.

[wispy blaze]

now ive never tried glass skates on plastic but ive tried plastic and it felt awful

• it wears down over time

id much rather replace skates than a new pad

[crude talon]

I like cloth pad with pom

[wispy blaze]

Glass + ptfe will forever be my favorite combo

Although I did really really enjoy sapphire + artisan zero

[patent siren]

This mouse will move across the pad if I breathe on it.

😂

[glossy shale]

who even uses glass skates

[patent siren]

I do. So far, so good.

[crude talon]

only saying you can get them for less than $16 a set, personally I wouldn’t

I have some skates, my friend pawned off the superglides on me but I don’t even an sl2 oops

neither did he

[wispy blaze]

Everytime I see someone say sl2 I think sl12😭

So used to seeing gpx2 instead of sl2

[crude talon]

reasonable

[wispy blaze]

I wanna pickup artisan dots for my raiden

Ive heard that combo is quite speedy

[obtuse dove]

type C or type S?

the one I tried was the superglide type C

[crude talon]

V2 is type C right

[obtuse dove]

there are 2 versions of V2, type S and type C

type S is smooth, Type C is frosted/matte

[crude talon]

🤷‍♂️

[glossy shale]

in the future we will have the SS mouse

[wide zinc]

2 should be C. Then they got shit on reviews because everyone assumed they were fast skates. Now they just do C & S naming

[tulip tide]

i recently went thru all skates i got, i even found some old hyperglide skates 😅

[crude talon]

I'll never get through my obsidian pros cus I hate them

[fervent topaz]

We're living in a golden age for gaming mice right now. Something like the Hitscan Hyperlight is about as good as it gets for performance on the market today. We've tested a small handful of mice that perform marginally better on paper, with the wired Endgame Gear 8k models being good examples, and they're terrific. But we're well past the point where these performance differences are perceptible or meaningful in-game. So if you like the shape of the Hyperlight and enjoy using it, I'd strongly recommend not buying another mouse solely because it posts slightly better performance numbers.

[obtuse dove]

Plus mouse modding is more of a thing now than it used to be just a few years ago. You can do switch swaps, encoder swaps, and even housing swaps and cable swaps.

And swapping stock skates for other types of skates is also very popular

[cold harbor]

Does anyone have experience with glass mousepads? I just ordered the VA-005. I’ve always used a cheap €15 cloth pad, so I’m curious what the difference will be.

[bitter sapphire]

i did switch from a 20$ cloth pad to the SP-004 glass pad. The only thing that i noticed is that my aim has changed to be better

my mouse glides much more easier on the glass pad

[crude talon]

buy some more skates because you stock ones will probably wear out pretty quick

[bitter sapphire]

im still on the stock OP1w 4k v2 skates

[cold harbor]

Good to know, will probably take some time to get used to.

[cold harbor]

Got a bundle, so with sleeve, and extra skates, should also come with some skates.

[bitter sapphire]

it is game dependent, but i got used to it in a few matches/game

[cold harbor]

Mainly playing apex, should be helpful for tracking (can only pray)

[crude talon]

that's good, will probably last a while 👍

[cold harbor]

Hopefully, do u use a glaspad?

[crude talon]

not at this moment but I own 3 and have used them for a while

[round lagoon]

My IEM do be zooming to me

[lunar niche]

Is that an ad in the middle of your tracking? 😰

[round lagoon]

yeah, but it's a third party tracker site

it has more ads around but I use an AD block

Soon, I'll taste the Divine by Crin (and 7hz)

[deep hawk]

Love seeing the actual GOATs of analytical testing coming in here to drop some wisdom

[proper vector]

Goats?! They'll eat me bushes again!
Git!

[wet coral]

@abstract warren

[abstract warren]

https://tenor.com/view/stab-basically-homeless-knife-unboxing-box-gif-26716090

[wet coral]

holy shit these are fucking massive

compared to zero:reds

[abstract warren]

they felt pretty small compared to some ive tried

[wet coral]

i mean like width wise

not the nozzel

its like double the zero:reds lol\

[shy igloo]

okay jade dot skates on an artisan mid feels the most glass like a cloth pad has ever felt for me

i kinda like it

[wispy blaze]

Gotta try artisan dots

I've been told its faster than some glass pads by a lot of aimers 👀

[round lagoon]

My iem arrived

But not at home rn

[shy igloo]

i’ve been using artisan dots, they feel slower than the jades ngl

[round lagoon]

Da divine

[shy igloo]

divines are p nice

[round lagoon]

Gonna run this through my test track.

[round lagoon]

TLDR:

Bass - Good sub bass rumble, bass is okay. Still too much for me.
Treble - Very tame, too tame for me to the point vocal sounds boring.
Musicality - Very lacking, instrument doesn't sound alive.
Separation - Very good, about as good or even better than Supermix 4.
Imaging - Just average. Nothing standout about this.

I think this is just an okay IEM but with a very good separation. Still not my 'all I need', but it isn't bad all things considered, just Average.

TBH, I still really like Meze Alba, treble might be too much on some but it just sounds soo nice.

[round lagoon]

Gonna try this next month

~$20 ish.

[quasi field]

EQ them

[quasi field]

It has a good frequency response for this style of headphone but it has no bass

Would have to boost bass by over 20 dB which I'm not sure it can handle

[hot garden]

Hey guys, i want really don't know much about mice so, what better? Beast x max or Viper V3 pro

[abstract warren]

I’d say probably Beastx max, it’ll have better optical clicks, and I like the magnesium feel over the full body plastic, but VV3P is also pretty good as well

Only place where Beastx doesn’t do well is with glass pads bc of the uneven base and it’ll sound super loud which sucks

[hot garden]

TYSM

[abstract warren]

To this day my Beastx pro has probably the best mouse clicks on any mouse I’ve tried

Make sure to get solid sides as well

If you end up going for it

[wet coral]

@abstract warren battery drain using the dac/amp iems not as bad as i expected

though still a slightly notable drop

[abstract warren]

TIL

[wet coral]

3% more drain in the hour at 50% volume

[abstract warren]

What DAC do you have that drains battery, never had to worry about that 😭

[wet coral]

im using the dawns

[crude talon]

duude my fiio ka11 would kill my phones battery before lunch if i used it
my phone would usually last my whole workday 💀

[wet coral]

normally id use airpods

3% isnt too bad of a difference

[crude talon]

I use a wireless dac now if I want to use wired headphones with my phone

[vague burrow]

Anyone here using a lamzu mouse ?

[zinc mirage]

yes

Maya x

[vague burrow]

Does this have a setting called angle tuning ?

[vague burrow]

I'm looking at this now and how is it compared to ATK F1 ?

[zinc mirage]

I believe so. I turned on comp mode and turned off motion sync and I’ve basically never opened the software since tbh with you

[vague burrow]

Oh damn lol

[zinc mirage]

I’ve used a viper v3 pro, superlight 2, and crazylight before my Maya x. The maya is still my main. I really enjoy it. I’ve never used the ATK F1 so I can’t compare the two

[vague burrow]

What's Maya champion edition ?

[vague burrow]

Tempting I really wanna get one . Apparently F1 is a small shape too but I just got a large shape so would be nice to get a small

[round lagoon]

precisely why I want to get it, like little bass.

[vague burrow]

Anyone used a wlmouse beast Miao lmao

[wet coral]

atk just clones things

[vague burrow]

I see I just realised it was recently released

[round lagoon]

From my play around with Divine EQ, I found that Harman 2025 MoA is very close to my preference sound.

[bitter sapphire]

i tried a few EQ's out, and non off that sounded natural for me

[quasi field]

What headphone did you use and how were you equing them?

[bitter sapphire]

the same app that u using, and i tried out other people profiles

and even with that everyhing was ass

[quasi field]

Are you talking about for over-ear headphones or earbuds?

[bitter sapphire]

a friend of mine passed his DT770 pro to me for a few days

[quasi field]

That headphone kind of sux ngl

[bitter sapphire]

[quasi field]

To get good results with EQ (assuming you know what target you are aiming for) requires a headphone without bad dips or peaks (no bad resonances), low enough distortion to survive potentially big boosts, and a headphone that does not have awful head-to-head inconsistencies

[bitter sapphire]

i dont and for me every headset sounds the same

[round lagoon]

Naow, I need to find IEM with Harman 2025 MoA tuning.

Which is going to be hard since every IEM released is using the same target as Daybreak/Divine/Reference.

[rain turret]

A harman factory is near my workplace, but idk if they make that heh.

[wet coral]

i love my astrals, i can definitely notice a difference between these and zero:reds (or its all in my head)

but between different headphones and iems, i can notice a difference, i just dont have the nerd vocabulary to describe it

[round lagoon]

Just describe it like how you describe how a song sound like to you.

[quasi field]

A lot of the vocabulary is really silly like describing bass as «fast»

[bitter sapphire]

[wet coral]

astrals just sound/feel more impactful across the board than reds but thats a given based off just the amount of drivers
but also while sounding very clean (which both does pretty well)

[quasi field]

Don't see why having more drivers would make it more «impactful»

The benefit of multiple drivers can be for tuning but otherwise I see no benefit it would bring

[wet coral]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-i-see-think-thinking-pondering-gif-4994872

[rain turret]

thanks, list updated

[abstract warren]

Now we just need Shafie to ditch his h*perx

[wet coral]

me who used cloud 2s, cloud 3s, and cloud alphas (and wireless one too)

[abstract warren]

My brother has a pair and dunno which they were specifically but I was very unimpressed

[wet coral]

just the change to zero:reds from wireless cloud alphas is just

[bitter sapphire]

i loved my Cloud II's

[abstract warren]

I feel like I’d rather just get the MK4s instead of the headphone guessing game

[round lagoon]

yessh, need to convert him into a IEM user

[abstract warren]

Top pros hit diff and then factor in thieaudio’s rumble mode that shit would hit like a bus

Apparently they are quite large so I’m mildly hesitant aside from the price

[round lagoon]

Don't think any of those IEM will be for me, me want that high treble.

[round lagoon]

Might try the Kima 2 next or Origin/Fission.

[quasi field]

Funny how similar they all ultimately are

Won't you find the Kima 2 too bassy

[round lagoon]

no, kima actually has less bass than divine

I just put daybreak there cause divine is not on that squig

[quasi field]

Oh I looked at the colours incorrectly

Though Kima 2 was the light blue one

[round lagoon]

Bass level is not too problematic for me unless it's like 75db or something , I mostly worried about the mids and treble. Mids need to be around daybreak level by about 1db, and treble needs to be more than daybreak and less than alba.

Plus like, if I want less bass I just listen to the IEM while in a bus

[mental spade]

Try looking for DSA or XDA profile keycaps

[frigid ivy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dP39oYqmfQ

[quasi field]

Most aftermarket pads in general suck tbf

They are more likely than not to worsen sound

I have a pair of aftermarket pads that make the sound some of the worst I've ever heard

Super low-fidelity sound

[round lagoon]

lmao. that's soo ass

[quasi field]

Though I EQed anyway

But that actually gave me volume issues since I had to boost so much that I'm hitting the limit on the headset

[round lagoon]

tbf, I can't really move on from the stock pads anyway, at least for hd490, anything different than the mixer pad is going to sound weird/ass to me.

mmm, a headpads for me

maybe too much treble

[quasi field]

Don't you have the 490 or am I thinking of someone else

[round lagoon]

I have the 490

the treble is just at my limit which is why I love it

[quasi field]

Do you use mixing or producing earpads

[round lagoon]

mixing

[patent patrol]

490 needs some bass

[quasi field]

Are you going to buy a 600 or something?

I feel that 490 with some EQ is better than the now ancient HD600 can ever be

[round lagoon]

Not sure, going to demo it in about a month.

bringing my 490 along cause I kept missing it whenever I'm outside

[quasi field]

Did you ever try the 560S

[round lagoon]

Nope

[quasi field]

Make sure you try that alongside the 600

[round lagoon]

alrighto.

[patent patrol]

560s is just a downgrade

[round lagoon]

not sure about that, it's very similar to hd490 with mixing pad but the treble is just a bit more.

[patent patrol]

nah irl it is

and less comfortable

[quasi field]

I find it comfortable

[patent patrol]

makes my ears touch the insides

[round lagoon]

I'll see to it myself

If it's too uncomfy I just skip it

Though there's a high chance I'll like the hd600 cause it has little to no sub bass

[wet coral]

@abstract warren been using astrals the entire day at uni and theyre actually quite comfortable

the shape is amazing and i dont feel like my ear canals are getting expanded un-consented

[abstract warren]

yeah them and the top pros pretty much have a very similar easy and comfy fit to them

OG Top was good fit, but sometimes felt too large

Astrals were pretty easy fit

[wet coral]

the shell actually forms between my ears veri veri nice

theyre not loose either which is always great

[round lagoon]

This is how I'll EQ the Divine. Reducing the bass doesn't seems to do much when it comes my enjoyment listening to the IEM

[glossy shale]

werent ATK mice supposed to be budget😭

[plain schooner]

@hazy fiber

[tulip tide]

yes

[crude talon]

Doesn’t this apply to the xm2 8k aswell

[sharp solar]

Hello guys any mouse recommendations ?

[crude talon]

for what grip and budget

[plain schooner]

I don’t know honestly

To me the op1 8k has the worst fucking scroll wheel ever

[crude talon]

my least favorite scroll wheel is the fenrir asym

[proper vector]

idea: replace scroll wheel with a touchpad with haptic feedback

[crude talon]

Gotchu

[proper vector]

Ergonomy not found

[tribal shadow]

Hey you didn't ask for an ergonomic feature

[proper vector]

But... like... basic ergonomy

[tribal shadow]

Actually ik that somebody made a capacitive scroll wheel for an m1k lol

[vital gorge]

instant cramp

unfortunately it is a huge improvement over its predecessor.. the clit mouse

[ancient mantle]

Somehow, I think the apple mouse just exists to troll apple useres wjo refuse the touchpad.

[vital gorge]

^ this

[tribal shadow]

they didn't make a touchpad back then

[lunar niche]

A distinct improvement over

https://kagi.com/proxy/h5dsi99o.jpg?c=MHaoEHf4JA4T1dYEo1CR0a8N5HrNgf3nP-sWvxWYuVU7q_iGDSJyc0lienNgJ0yndfRMYFLwPuufRbj0qBblznMeJt3Wp5YcuS_Ir2IaCxPFQYdDR09I2ucEO7v1nC-T

[glossy shale]

we got glasspad makers doing iems now

[obtuse dove]

apple people realistically have 2 choices, magic trackpad or MX Master 4

[heady crystal]

MX Master 4 + Magic Trackpad for gestures

[obtuse dove]

trueeeeee!!!!

I am tempted to buy a magic trackpad and then install drivers for windows to use it on my main PC for casual use.

there is really no other good trackpads out there that are as good as the magic trackpad

its like the one Apple HID device that is actually good

[crude talon]

arent all the mx mice like 150 grams
i had to use an older model at work before and its so not nice

[obtuse dove]

they are still hefty, but its fine

I dont mind it

[crude talon]

it was fine for a couple minutes but doing any amount of work with a mouse that heavy was not very fun

[obtuse dove]

for me I can use my MX master 3S for many hours on end

its my best work mouse, 2nd best work mouse being the spacemouse

@clear sail just curious, have you ever tried a spacemouse?

[clear sail]

I have 4 ama

And my main mouse has full gyro so it does 3d as well

[obtuse dove]

LMAO

jeez

[obtuse dove]

that is very nice

[clear sail]

I have 2 hp pilots, the basic puck and an enterprise

[obtuse dove]

ooooo

[clear sail]

I have a non working og spacemouse for my ho visualize fx

I want to get some Spaceballs one day

[obtuse dove]

real

[clear sail]

My daily input devices are Tartarus pro, wooting two, Swift point z2, spacemouse

[obtuse dove]

I tried a key cluster type keyboard, I could never, it was so weird and it always threw me off.

[clear sail]

I use it mainly for thumb stick

[obtuse dove]

ah smart

[clear sail]

Spacemouse is camera motion, thumb is part

Super useful for assembly and such

Also have it macro swapped to mouse wheel

As spacemouse has no wheel

I also hate the z2 lacking side scroll

[obtuse dove]

for me I use an 80HE with a mx master 3S and a spacemouse on my PC and my Macbook setup uses a Keychron Q5 Max with the MX master 4 and magic trackpad

[clear sail]

Good track pads get too much hate

[obtuse dove]

I do think about getting a magic trackpad for my PC

[obtuse dove]

this tbh

[clear sail]

Z2 with g600 third button and side scroll would be the perfect productivity mouse

Pressure sensitive kicks ass

[obtuse dove]

nice

[obtuse dove]

speaking of pressure sensitive mice, I am tempted to get the GPX 2 Superstrike

basically it uses pressure sensitive triggers and uses a haptic motor to simulate the click feel

[clear sail]

z2 still has clicky

and has haptic

[obtuse dove]

nice

[round lagoon]

Can't wait to see what's up with this

eee, doesn't seems too bad

[glossy shale]

they are a year old apparently

[round lagoon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llvuKR8QN6U

Supermix 5

Holy sheet, exactly where I want the graph to be

1BC+1DD+2BA+1micro planar

Gonna wait for more squig

[frosty mortar]

maxgaming is my last website to check most of their stuff is overpriced and just the shipping pisses me off

for example the Artisan mousepads i can only buy them from maxgaming as they arent available elsewhere for me

[glossy shale]

europe has barely any alternatives

i bought an artisan straight from japan on 2020 and it was not cheap

[rain turret]

they are, just not there :)

[frosty mortar]

me whos in Italy im looking at 30-50 euros of just taxes let alone the Mousepad itself

oh and if u want a decent discount on a Mice just go on Amazon

90% of my stuff comes from them and ive had best customer services too!

got to return my burned monitor and got a full refund after almost 2 years of use.

like one more month and i would have been out of warranty lmao

[crude talon]

artisans on amazon is spooky
I got one while I was in japan, second on maxgaming, they didn’t have the size and firmness I wanted but found a demo unit one size smaller for about half of new
they have good cs in my experience at least

actually, good cs except for when I asked if my desired size would be in stock, they said they had no idea, but the day I got the demo pad delivered it was back in stock 💀

[rain turret]

Best method is to buy from Artisan directly and use Buyee.
This way you can forego them using DHL Express, therefore 100% taxxing you with VAT + handling upon EU entry.

[crude talon]

any other forwarding service would probably work fine too
I’ve never used buyee but I’ve tried blackship

[jolly pulsar]

Nice ATK influencer with your little referal code in your bio

Is this why you recommend their products?

[heady crystal]

[wet coral]

https://tenor.com/view/sospechoso-suspizcaz-chicken-judging-you-gif-17495234

[round lagoon]

Tried the Divine with Rhythm game today, it's quite nice. Nicer than Alba since I can push the volume more which offset the lack of treble

Though the cable is quite unwieldy so I'll keep using Alba on the go. Plus that one I only need low volume to enjoy.

Also the subass rumble is too much on some song lmao, might get used to it but for now I might distracted by a low rumble

[obtuse dove]

slight conflict of interest LOL

[jolly pulsar]

Just a little

[bitter ore]

👀

[round lagoon]

why soo cheap

[bitter ore]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpPk6w9_OTU&t

v worth imo

[round lagoon]

non issue for $20

Good deal when the shipping is $10 or less (this is $100 btw)

[plain schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/larry-larry-child-gguh-baby-laugh-gif-6155286057470724104

[bitter ore]

[obtuse dove]

to make room for Pulsar mice but also cauz they are defective

1 dollar dongle though... :)

[silver topaz]

As an introduction to iems without breaking the bank these good or does anyone else have better recommendations. Heard about these from someone earlier.

I mean I'm fine with spending like 200 on some, but these didn't look horrible

[wet coral]

theyre great but theyre really wide for the average person unless you got big ears
at the widest (the tip/nozzle) its 7mm

[silver topaz]

Eek

[wet coral]

though using astrals from that, its a huge difference, both with a similar tuning
its not even near the same price bracket so i dont think i should compare them

but its what ive got

[silver topaz]

What about these?

[wet coral]

im probably not the best person to speak about audio

[wet coral]

@abstract warren i summon you

talk about iem buying recommendations

[patent siren]

AstralFluxCult

[lunar niche]

Ascend to over ears

[silver topaz]

I was debating on some over ears, but man they're pricey

I'm also just not the biggest fan of headphones lol

[wet coral]

nah i dont think so

[white jackal]

If you dont like headphones then dont buy them

Like how i dont buy in ears cause i dont like them

[silver topaz]

Yeah, I have a pair of steel series arctis pros I've been using since I used them on my console also and they're working just fine, but they just start to feel weird to me after awhile

And the mic absolutely sucks, but I'm doing something else for that

I was playing arc raiders last night and it was buggin

[abstract warren]

id have to look into those and squig them but i havent been on the look out for new or up and coming ones

[wet coral]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-ash-ketchum-pokeball-pokeballs-gif-5634823

[silver topaz]

Personally what would your recommendation be for someone just getting into the iems?

[abstract warren]

I guess it depends on your budget really. Cheapest ive tried so far has been the Kiwi Ears Astrals, but I also went into the deep end early

[wet coral]

blue2 or the reds

iirc the blue2s should have a smaller nozzle

[abstract warren]

For the new ish tuning that ive tried and have really liked is: Kiwi Ears Astrals --> Xenns Top Pros --> Thieaudio Monarch MK4s

Kiwiears Astrals and Xenns Tea Pros (more bass intensive, at $350) are great mid tier options

[wet coral]

wait why are blue2s measured using foam tips

🤨