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[patent patrol]

car would roll over

[plain schooner]

Viper V3 Pro would have made the vehicle flip over

[jolly pulsar]

What about a razer vertical mouse

[rigid dagger]

shocking

[patent patrol]

https://fixupx.com/jakeufps/status/1969162893036843240?s=46

jakeu+ (@jakeufps)

The Logitech G Pro X2 Superstrike product page was just updated to correct a mistake
︀︀
︀︀It shares the same dimensions as the GPX 1/2, and not those of the much smaller 2c (as the page displayed until recently)

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FixupX · Sep 19, 2025, 10:13 PM

okay goodd

so the extra weight is just a few grams

[unkempt gust]

oh dope
I just ordered an Aim 8k kit to replace my now broken Zerømouse V34 kit
what is the coating like?
which one did you get?

[plain schooner]

I own the Zen 8K and the Cyber 4.0 the coating is really nice

[unkempt gust]

the default or the ultragrip one?

[plain schooner]

Ultragrip 1.0 and 2.0

The newer one feels way better than the older one

[round lagoon]

After much consideration, I decided to get hd490pro outright.

Hopefully it's "All I need"

baibai money

[gaunt flax]

they do be nice

[patent patrol]

yep

only upgrade i see rn are the 800s

[abstract warren]

Now you can get a DAC to drive them on

Then it’ll be all you need

[patent patrol]

https://x.com/wearemaxgaming/status/1969019271113007594?s=46

MaxGaming (@wearemaxgaming)

RCC-1 Wireless Gaming Mouse - Arye Edition is now up to monitor at MaxGaming!

👉 https://t.co/NrgC3Z7X7r

X · Sep 19, 2025, 12:42 PM

mouse

[vital gorge]

180...whatthefuck

[patent patrol]

normal mouse price nowadays

[violet mango]

Ye

[wispy blaze]

This looks awful

[wispy blaze]

Not really

My beastx was 150 us

[patent patrol]

they 170 on maxgaming

[abstract warren]

That’s certainly a mouse of all time

[patent patrol]

shape kinda inspired by g303 non shroud version

[wet coral]

hitscan hyperlight is $90

[patent patrol]

• dongle

[wet coral]

90 + 25 for 8k dongle

[patent patrol]

premium chinese

[round lagoon]

maybe later, just note the headphone cost more than my montor by like $250 even with $50 shipping.

mmm, at least I still can collect some fund for december trip to the capital so I can try out some dac there I guess.

[forest ocean]

Anyone knows an EU shop which sells https://dailyclack.com/products/kam-superuser?_pos=2&_psq=kam&_ss=e&_v=1.0 ? I couldn't find one

[round lagoon]

I think i'll buy a mouse first before I buy a dac

[wispy blaze]

Max gaming upcharging then

And or special edition

[patent patrol]

probably vat

[round lagoon]

Yay, I have found my preference sound

Almost, I'm still not sure about the freq beyond 1k, I just make it so that it's not fatiguing for me.

just gonna show this pic. It's what I try to make the graph look like.

since that's the sound/eq that I like

[rain turret]

Trying to figure out what to do with my mousepad situation, could go Artisan, but i really have gotten used to XXL (900x400) pads that i can put both the keyboard and the mouse on. Doesn't seem like theres a perfect compromise?

[bitter sapphire]

put the artisan pad on the XXL pad ?

[hazy fiber]

Artisan won't stick then. It will move while playing.

[bitter sapphire]

then get 2 artisan pads

[hazy fiber]

Get artisan and keebmat for your keyboard

[bitter sapphire]

no,no get a artisan to your keyboard as well

[hazy fiber]

[twilit flame]

Get an xsoft so you can leave an imprint for easy keyboard placement

[wispy blaze]

i do this

zero xsoft for keyboard, raiden soft for mouse

[heady crystal]

Anybody with a OLED monitor from GIGABYTE? The MO27Q28G (1440p 280Hz 4th Gen Tandem OLED) releases in just over a week and I'd like to avoid the ROG tax for what is otherwise the same panel. How are GIGABYTE with warranty and firmware updates for OLEDs?

[rain turret]

Maybe we get a Keebmat + Artisan, i just really enjoyed XXLs and not too keen on the two separate pad idea.

[shy igloo]

I was the same before I started paying attention to mousepads, then I bought artisans n glasspads, and have 2 Keebmats, it's gamechanging

[rain turret]

It might be the play and i understand the diff when i have it. Probably will do that.

[rigid dagger]

I think i have that ROG mat somewhere

[bitter sapphire]

i love that rog mat

[rigid dagger]

was it the sheath III? or II

i forgot

or scabbard

[bitter sapphire]

mine is the Electro Punk

[rigid dagger]

neat!

[round lagoon]

it's coming

[quasi field]

Speakerz are here finally!!1

Bigger than I expected

[heady crystal]

Vertical mouse

[quasi field]

[stark socket]

Hello guys , I bought this IEM here, is good?

[tulip tide]

not bad

[proper vector]

KZ's are top tier of cheap IEMs, and yeah, they be nice

[white jackal]

should have bought some 2000 dollar over ears instead

[proper vector]

KZ's are 10~20€ though

[white jackal]

but is iem

[proper vector]

[stark socket]

Mhmm for this one I paid 150€

Do you suggest moondrop dusk?

[round lagoon]

If you like Crin's tune I guess, but if you have that kind of money, I suggest going to Xenns Top Pro @abstract warren can tell you more about it

[wet coral]

me waiting for someone to call varedis so he can tell others to buy $500 iems

[round lagoon]

I mean like, it has good gaming performance

[stark socket]

Is from moondrop or is the another company?

[round lagoon]

another company

[abstract warren]

Lmao

[round lagoon]

better have somebody with experiencde amirite

[abstract warren]

You just flash banged the poor dude with those

[stark socket]

Ok I’m here 🫡

[stark socket]

Is ok this one?

[abstract warren]

The cheapest I’ve tried are the $270 astrals so I’m prob not the man to ask for the $100 range IEMs

[wispy blaze]

Im really happy with my zero blue:2🤷

[stark socket]

Is 200$ downgrade to 150$

[abstract warren]

Just a believer in you get what you pay for

[abstract warren]

Really depends on the set and your preferred tuning

[round lagoon]

I'm not really a fan of KZ IEM as much as I'm not a fan of bass

but their build quality is pretty alright

[abstract warren]

The real thing is you gotta buy a few IEMs to know what you like

[stark socket]

I have no idea , it’s my first time with IEM’S 😭

[abstract warren]

It’s a real rabbit hole

[abstract warren]

That’s fair. Try em out and see how you like them

[stark socket]

Which one is better for competitive gaming and editing video, KIWI or MOONDROP?

[abstract warren]

Kiwi as in kiwi ears?

[stark socket]

Yep

[abstract warren]

IIRC moondrop IEMs is more for music than comp gaming

[round lagoon]

You can try like 3-5 $20 IEM like Tangzu waner 2, moondrop chu 2, and Salnote x Crin Zero 2. The first one is vocal focused, second is moondrop's tune, and the last is crin's tune. If you like one more than the other, it should simplify your choice when it comes to buying more expensive IEM

[abstract warren]

Kiwi ears orchestra lite were good for their time, if you want the big guns kiwi ears astral are a great set but more expensive

[wispy blaze]

If you really want iems just for gaming, the zeros are kinda nuts

[abstract warren]

Really depends on your budget tho @stark socket

[wispy blaze]

Zero red/Blue:2 basically free wall hacks for me

[stark socket]

Zero is the company or the name of Kiwi Zero? 😅

[wispy blaze]

• cheap asf

[wispy blaze]

Truthear zero

[stark socket]

300€-400€ max

[abstract warren]

I’d say Astrals are goated in that range

[stark socket]

Kiwi Astrals right ?

[abstract warren]

If you like bass you could go for Xenns Tea Pros as well

[abstract warren]

Kiwi ears astral ye

They were my first kiwiears IEM and I was pretty impressed by them

[stark socket]

Thanks for helping , if is not ok that pair I showed on top , I will try the kiwi astrals

[round lagoon]

nice nice

[abstract warren]

As long as you stay within your budget is what matters for IEMs 🙏🏻

[stark socket]

I just wanna pay the quality and not the trend of the company so always is better to speak with someone who knows better

And after Kiwi Astrals with higher budget what do u suggest for gaming ?

@abstract warren

[wispy blaze]

2000$ iem incoming

[round lagoon]

||Monarch Mark 4||

[stark socket]

Haha

[abstract warren]

Xenns tea pros are like $350 but are more bassy, I’m using the Xenns Top Pros ($500) atm but I am biased after loving the OG Tops

If you like the kiwi ears astral tuning, the top pros are the next level up

But the astrals are such a steal at their price point

They sound close with $400 sets

[round lagoon]

hopefully I can demo it this december

[abstract warren]

The one thing I love a lot about astral/top pro tuning is how immersive everything is

[stark socket]

Thanks 👍🏻

[round lagoon]

idk If I want to buy it though, since I already got 2 sets that I'm okay living with and a headphone that's otw

[abstract warren]

Idk try it and buy later if you still want it

[round lagoon]

soooon

1 more week before my headphone arrive

[abstract warren]

You could wait for something to break @round lagoon

Not uncommon for IEMs to randomly shit the bucket

And I think astrals + HD490 would be a really nice combo

That’s what I was going to go for with my Xenns OG top before things started to go crazy

[round lagoon]

I consider it, but I'm eyeing at moondrop para 2 since I can get them at taobao for $300

If I can snag cosmo's pads, it can apparently turn para 2 into cosmo (the latter being a $1k headphone)

[heady crystal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcmzxoFkH1I

[patent patrol]

😴

[stark socket]

I’m waiting for Rog version tendem OLED 2k 280hz

[heady crystal]

Same, it'll actually be glossy.

[patent patrol]

should be fine as a second monitor

[bitter sapphire]

I just wanna upgrade to a 360hz one

And with that i could use my main monitor as a 2nd monitor

Or i can even have 3 monitors

2x1440p and 1x1080p

With 3 different refresh rate

[patent patrol]

or 4....

[vital gorge]

i find 2 to be the good amount.

my laptop is connected to 2, laptop screen is off.

[torpid trail]

Why not gigabyte mo27q2?

Qd oled 2k 240hz

Glossy too

[heady crystal]

4th Gen Tandem OLED from LG

[wet coral]

id assume its because hes waiting for a tandem oled and not just a single panel

[torpid trail]

What is tandem oled?

[wet coral]

2 panels stacked ontop of eachother
usually to achieve even higher brightness

apple has it on their ipad pros and i compared it to my g60sd, its a pretty big noticible difference

i already have my samsung at max brightness

[torpid trail]

Hwat in da hek is dis techonologia

[torpid trail]

Yeah my gigabyte monitor is maxed in brightness and it seems a little dim still

[quasi field]

Just found out after connecting all this crap that the microphone stand I bought doesn't fit the microphone holder for the calibration mic!!

I'm going to duct tape it instead. Should work

[silver heath]

https://tenor.com/view/blown-away-maxell-tape-ad-advertising-stereo-music-gif-25588455

[quasi field]

I really need a subwoofer. The lack of <50 Hz is noticed in much of my music

[oblique totem]

I await rotary sub

[quasi field]

https://tenor.com/view/eye-event-horizon-gif-18327884632607418581

[oblique totem]

Have you seen rotary sub?

[deft current]

Based pick on the Neumanns

[quasi field]

Not in real life or on the internet no

[oblique totem]

https://youtu.be/_Uk-Yml9qUE?t=3m12s

[quasi field]

Can it cool me when I'm warm as well

[oblique totem]

Probably not since it has to be open to the outside

[past dome]

I didn't think the G60SD needed to be any brighter. It looks amazing with HDR, and anything more would be too bright imo

[sinful sand]

those speakers huge and if your tryna play any games that are hardish i would get a 60% or tkl and get a normal mouse i'm not tryna say that's that stuff you got rn is bad it's just wouldn't be optimal but if your just doing school work or just normal work that would be good

[torpid shell]

Is 7800x3d (tray) worth it for $315? Fyi i live in Asia

[white jackal]

price seems ok i think, make sure you get full warranty coverage tho

[white jackal]

new hifiman headphones seem interesting but idk if its worth upgrading from an edition xs

[proper vector]

XV?

[white jackal]

ye

he600 also look interesting but less comfortable and more pricy

so idk

[proper vector]

Not egg shaped eggmans?

[tulip tide]

i got a good deal on the edition xs, they sound great but the headband was super uncomfortable, i had to return them

i feel like ananda or sundara would be much better, but i will stick with my hd600 for another couple of years

[white jackal]

i like my edition xs

but the updated headband on the xv and new tuning might win me over

i'd like to try them first but idk where i could do that

[tulip tide]

yeah they look interesting

the xs would literally dig into my skull, i coud do max 30 minutes listening

[white jackal]

unfortunate

i guess i bent the headband enough to make it fit nicely or something

[tulip tide]

even the sennheiser hd600 dig into my skull, but it's not as prominent

i feel like the suspended headband would help tremendously

[white jackal]

my issue with the xs is that they sometimes feel a little tiring to listen to

maybe the new tuning on the xv helps with that

[tulip tide]

does the xv come with a balanced cable?

[proper vector]

I had to buy one for my Aryas
But they have so nice headband

[white jackal]

i would love to try more headphones from diff brands but idk where thats possible

all the electronics stores here only carry boring bs that sucks

[proper vector]

Try music store, like the one you'd go to to buy new guitar strings or something

[white jackal]

[round lagoon]

should be a nice visit

[white jackal]

maybe ill do an excursion on thursday

[proper vector]

If there's one near me, there's definitely one near you

[white jackal]

i could go to the music store

the one and only

doesnt look like any have xv tho

[round lagoon]

tbf, it's very new

[white jackal]

true

maybe ill wait for a couple of reviews and pick it up on like black friday or something

if i prefer it a lot over the xs ill just keep em as backups or something

maybe leave them at my parents house so i have something to use when i'm there

[round lagoon]

hmm, my headphone should reach my state by now. So either tomorrow or Thursday I got it

[white jackal]

did you order one?

or something else

[round lagoon]

yep, hd490 pro

it has a nice case with the plus, which makes it a plus to me

[white jackal]

interesting

[quasi field]

I'm singleplayer only but thanks

I'm going to order new stands that will allow me to have them significantly further back. The ones I have are honestly unpleasant to use, and they are the expensive official ones 🤮 🥲

[sinful sand]

Alright

Alot of single player games are easier thought cause it makes more mouse room like if you play valorent or counter strike 2

And I was always curious if those ergonomic mice were comfy to hold for a long period of time

[rain turret]

very good price actually

[heady crystal]

That is a temptingly good price for 4K 240Hz with full bandwidth DP2.1.

[tulip tide]

why do people make such a big thing out of DSC?

[heady crystal]

I don't know but equally, it would be nice to have the latest standard on a high-end 2025 monitor.

Even if I'd be using this with a 4090 and likely via HDMI 2.1, not DP1.4.

£700 for that display is a very good price though... even if I was waiting for the new 1440p 280Hz Tandem OLEDs to release.

[rain turret]

Main concerns are the tab out black screen bug and DSR/DLDSR being disabled

[tulip tide]

i have no idea why people keep mentioning this black screen alt tab bug, i never had that happen on both of my dsc monitors on both amd or nvidia

[shy igloo]

anyone got good glass pad recommendations? loving the zero n raiden but want to venture into glass

[tulip tide]

skypad

[shy igloo]

i was either gonna get the gen 5 wallhack (skypad) or a tekkusai guardian

[tulip tide]

i'm not sure about other brands, they keep showing up and fading into obscurity within couple of months but skypad stays 🤷‍♂️ i come from steelseries experience i-2 -> skypad 2 -> skypad 3 -> skypad 4

skypad 3 used to go on sale every couple of months on amazon, you could get it for around 40€ iirc, i would recommend that mousepad even nowadays, the only downside i had with that mousepad was the terrible base/feet, they were way too slim and the mousepad would sometimes slide around on my desk

[shy igloo]

tekkusai/glsswrks are generally good I've heard

[tulip tide]

i have no personal experience so i cannot comment

[shy igloo]

not trying to disagree, i'm honestly clueless when it comes to glass LOL

i used to use a skypad 3 for a short while but gave it away when moving

[rain turret]

Because it does happen to people, just cause your sample size 1 didn't have it happen, it happens to others.

[shy igloo]

I didn't hate the skypad 3 but fuckin hell I hated the feeling of the edge

Even with a sleeve

[tulip tide]

i understand, i'm just giving you my opinions, i feel like it doesn't really matter nowadays which one you go with

as long as it has a completely solid silicone base you are good to go

[shy igloo]

I've been 50/50 between the va-005 and a tekkusai pad, both are similarly priced and have a full coverage base

[tulip tide]

do you have this issue? can you check if you have fullscreen optimizations enabled?

[tulip tide]

i'd get the one that is cheaper overall or looks cooler to you

[rain turret]

I had on my previous setup, i don't atm, however several enthusiast friends do.

[shy igloo]

Will do, wasn't sure if there's a major difference between surfaces like there used to be. Cheers

[tulip tide]

personally i feel like it's mostly just a marketing speech, most of the "feeling" between the surfaces comes down to the different mouse skates you use

*as long as it's an uncoated surface, which most of these are

i tried this one coated glasspad couple of years ago, beyond horrible

[shy igloo]

Both the Guardian and VA-005 come with dots to try, my current Artisan Mizugomu skates won't fare well on glass LOL

[tulip tide]

yeah don't use those, they will just get flat and eaten away very quickly

it's a very soft material

[shy igloo]

Yeah I think they're POM skates, I'm planning on switching them out and I can go back to them if I wanna main glass again

or just get the OP1 8K i'm thinking about

My VV3 pro is going well but I wanna try a smaller mouse as i fingertip grip

[tulip tide]

could you ask them to verify if they are on windows 11 and have fullscreen optimizations enabled? this dword should say 0

[tulip tide]

it's a great mouse, highly recommend it, i exclusively use it for claw grip

[rain turret]

They are overclockers with far more knowledge than you or me, they have tried with different windows versions and FO enabled and disabled and it still happens, it's purely related to the monitor specs/connector interface and NVIDIA cards.

[shy igloo]

My one issue is that I can't find any information on what distinguishes the V1 from the V2

[rain turret]

We just started to avoid DSC alltogether, especially when theres no reason to keep using underspecced DP ports in the current year for the resolutions and refreshes that are being pushed.

DSR and DLDSR are also really underrated, they make for some really good looking image quality.

[tulip tide]

they should also check gsync, or completely wipe it from the edid, that seems to cause issues as well

[tulip tide]

v2 comes with a new sensor, pixart 3950; new scrollwheel encoder

the only main difference is that it allows you to make finer adjustments on the LOD compared to the v1's sensor and the scrollwheel encoder should be more durable and reliable

[vital gorge]

making a scrollwheel encoder that lasts is apparently very hard -_-

[shy igloo]

I had scroll issues with my VV2 Pro, luckily nothing with my VV3 Pro yet (hopefully stays that way)

I'm either thinking OP1 8k V2 + Bungee if I go wired, or a Beast X Pro if I go wireless

[tulip tide]

i like the pulsar micro bungee or 3d printed similar design

found it https://www.printables.com/model/406622-micro-bungee-pulsar-style

[shy igloo]

I would but I'd rather just get a desk planted bungee because I keep my monitor quite close when gaming

Was either gonna buy a bungee or steal an old razer bungee in the office

[tulip tide]

fair

[vital gorge]

ohyeah that reminds me.. i need to wash my mousemat

[tulip tide]

noo you won't be able to draw on it anymore..

[tulip tide]

my bad, it's not the pulsar micro bungee, it's some cheap(er) aliexpress clone that looks almost the same

[wet coral]

oh yeah for sure, in a dark room its amazing

but maybe just like 50-100 nits more

[heady crystal]

Got my C2 configured for 200 nits of SDR brightness

Then 200 nits for the white point in HDR mode, 800 nits for peak brightness (also where HGiG clips brightness level).

[plain schooner]

@hazy fiber @viscid bison
https://x.com/ModsMouse/status/1969870634089152630

PMM (@ModsMouse)

Current trio

PULSE - 30g OP1 8K Mod
PMM S2P - Performance Editon
Wooting 80HE

What's yours?

X · Sep 21, 2025, 9:05 PM

Might buy a wallhack

https://wallhack.com/pages/blind-box?

[heady crystal]

80HE, Superlight 2, LTT Store desk pad. Normie ass setup.

[wispy blaze]

Skypad does cloth pads now?

[tulip tide]

yes it's been a while now, they are okay but nothing insane

[shy igloo]

I used a skypad cloth pad once, it felt exactly like the £15 deskpad I bought with a keycap set because I liked the design, definitely not worth buying

Espeically not in some gacha blindbox

[proper vector]

Aite, it's time
What mouse should I get next
My Dav3 double-clicks and sometimes doesn't read side button clicks

[wet coral]

hitscan hyperlight/pulsar x2 crazylight

[abstract warren]

https://www.logitech.com/en-us/shop/p/mx-vertical-ergonomic-mouse.910-005447

Logitech clears

Best mouse of all time

@hazy fiber time to cop

[shy igloo]

dav4 pro

[proper vector]

But I want wired

[shy igloo]

why wired

[proper vector]

Because I don't like batteries

[shy igloo]

i dunno what is a similar size and wired, maybe a Aerox 5?

[proper vector]

Eeew, shitseries
Then I'd rather go for dav4 pro

[shy igloo]

Exactly Lesser of 2 evils, dav4 pro is wireless but better than anything steelseries

[terse ferry]

Weird g502

[shy igloo]

Steelseries and Logitech

[proper vector]

[shy igloo]

Yeah I stripped back all my wireless to now only my mouse and I just got a OP1 8K to switch between that and my VV3 Pro

Went back to IEMs too

[round lagoon]

wired is good

[proper vector]

If wireless mice had a contacts on the bottom, so you could put it on a cradle for the night it'd be perfect

[wispy blaze]

Beastx if you dont mind skeleton mouse(highly recommend solid side option), + its cat themed

[proper vector]

[wispy blaze]

Worst comes to worst if you really dont wanna charge it, just leave it plugged in 24/7 🤷

[hazy fiber]

DO IT

Is this Max

[proper vector]

Both Pro and Max are pink

[wispy blaze]

Max is essentially just pro before they dropped the pro versions

Mine is a solid side max

[hazy fiber]

Get Max, it's bigger

[wispy blaze]

If you got big hands, or want a relaxed grip. Get the max

[proper vector]

DAv3 is perfect for my hand

[wispy blaze]

Probably a max then?

[hazy fiber]

Why not DAV4

[shy igloo]

thats what i said

[proper vector]

Because wireless
But if there's no better wired alternatives then I'll probably go for it

[hazy fiber]

DAV4 has good battery life, way better than BeastX

[abstract warren]

Max isn’t ergo tho, even VV3 pro is still smaller than DAV3

DAV4 but don’t unplug the mouse ☝️🤓

[heady crystal]

Wireless is based

[wispy blaze]

Wireless clears

[bitter sapphire]

tbh i dont have any issues with wired mouse

[heady crystal]

The weight of the cable bugs me

[bitter sapphire]

that few grams ?

[abstract warren]

You can make any wireless mouse wired, but you can’t make wired mice wireless so honestly the only real option is DAV4

[heady crystal]

Yes

[hazy fiber]

I think DAV4 battery life is just as good as Superlight

You'll be fine

[bitter sapphire]

i mean i used my X2H mini more in wired mode than wireless

[hazy fiber]

Chalk the cable

[abstract warren]

Or just get the op1 if you really want wired ☝️🤓

[bitter sapphire]

tbh how light is the cable on the op1 i dont even notice it

[patent patrol]

op1 cable is annoying even with a bungee

[abstract warren]

The real issue with wired isn’t the weight but if you have to loop it around your setup and you run the risk of not having enough wire and making it taut and not great if you need to make sudden movements.

That and it’s a perpetual eyesore, but just don’t leave the mouse unplugged and it’s really no issue

https://www.razer.com/gaming-mice/razer-deathadder-v3/RZ01-04640100-R3U1

Only option is DAV4 and keeping it plugged or buying the wired DAV3

[proper vector]

I already have DAv3
I'll try to disassemble it and fix switches maybe

[wispy blaze]

Its more so the dragging on the pad

After using wireless for a bit I cant not feel it dragging

[bitter sapphire]

i guess im just used to it

[wispy blaze]

Once I went wireless I could never get used to it again

Just makes the front end of the mouse feel like it has way more resistance

[bitter sapphire]

i guess how i play it doesnt bother me that much

[wispy blaze]

Yeah im sure there's tons of factors that could make you feel it more or less

I use my finger tips to pivot the front of my mouse a lot which might make it feel worse for me

[bitter sapphire]

Yeah i use a completely different grip method

Soo thats why it doesnt bother me

[proper vector]

Aite, DAv4 it is
There's one returned white one for ~30% less than normal
Supposedly returned because first owner didn't like how it fits their hand

Already paid for, will pick up next week when I'm back home

[bitter sapphire]

Noice

[proper vector]

Surely it's better than Xiaomi mouse I'm using right now

[bitter sapphire]

Nyo

[quasi field]

It is very comfortable. It haa never given me fatigue

[sinful sand]

Ah okay

[viscid bison]

what micey are you using lately? And yes, you should get a Wallhack even if it's just to admire the packaging

[plain schooner]

Still the zen8k

[rigid dagger]

you can solder?

[round lagoon]

Mmm, my headphone arrived but not at home rn

[round lagoon]

Ooo yeah

Gonna take shower then try this

[proper vector]

Feet pic

[quasi field]

Socks

[torpid trail]

I have DAv4. Its achilles heels is the dongle needs to be within inches of the mouse or it has connectivity issues. Stupidest thing ever. If the dongle isnt directly in front of your mouse on your desk at all times youll constantly lose connection and have mouse issues

Thats my biggest gripe. Great mouse dumb connectivity range

[round lagoon]

Hmm

First impression with the mixing pad. It's right where I eqed my supermix 4 to be

[torpid trail]

You liking them?

[round lagoon]

Gimme more time

But sound wise, totally

[torpid trail]

Which ones are they

[round lagoon]

Wdym

[torpid trail]

Which headphones are they

[round lagoon]

Hd490 pro

[proper vector]

wawa you got a case with yours
I had to order case separately for mine

[round lagoon]

Case is like $100 more, but yeah, totally worth imo

Hmm, my left ear feels like it's being pressed

[quasi field]

How many days until you sell this one?

[round lagoon]

I dont think i will, if I can get the comfort right. It's right where my preferred sound is

20 min in, and best way I can describe it is to imagine supermix 4, eqed to my preference sound, and upgrade to its technicalities and soundstage. Not sure about imaging.

[rigid dagger]

i thought the point of this dongle was to increase the range??

[torpid trail]

Range is short

[round lagoon]

mmm, the headphone is getting more comfy now that I know how to wear it (it has been like a couple years since I wear headphone lmao)

just that the pads makes my ear warm, but it's as hot as my body from ambient temp

[abstract warren]

Welcome to headphones hope you enjoy your stay 🎧

[past dome]

Open back headphones are cooler on your ears if that's an issue

[round lagoon]

it's open back

[round lagoon]

I will, much more comfy than IEM

[twilit flame]

Edition xs ♥️

[white jackal]

did you see edition xv

i kinda want to try it but dont want to spend the money just to see how i like it 😭

maybe ill have to wait and watch some reviews

[round lagoon]

do a fuck ton of graph sniffing, works for me

also the headphone's cable is too long for me

kinda want it to be like 1m rather than 1.8m.

[white jackal]

graph sniffing only gets you so far

i feel like it would be nice cause ive heard its less fatiguing but idk

[proper vector]

Aryas

[round lagoon]

i wanna try the para 2

if I want planar, that could be it

[twilit flame]

i have not...

[white jackal]

It looks interesting to check out

[twilit flame]

headband is nice

[patent patrol]

can they stop making everything out of metal...

[round lagoon]

now that I got a new headphone, my setup is practically almost complete, just need a new mouse

[white jackal]

Yeah why cant they make everything from flimsy plastic

[patent patrol]

bruh

[shy igloo]

my gaming sleeve just arrived for glass pad, gone giga nerd

[oblique totem]

What about strong plastic

[gleaming axle]

anyone has tried the lamzu maya x and gpro x superlight? what is better?

[shy igloo]

my superlight 2 had bad qc and super prominent side creak, no issues with the maya x and bonus, but the clicks on the maya 8 don't sound too great, there's a little too much pretravel for my liking

theyre huano black shell red dots i think?

if they were the last 2 mice i could use, lamzu

[south pagoda]

hey guys i have a question

[plain schooner]

Just ask someone will come around and answer

[bitter ore]

great question

not sure how to answer tho

[quasi field]

I have an answer

[south pagoda]

i posted it into general, didn't wanna ask in every channel

😭

[astral musk]

https://tenor.com/view/coach-josh-wood-coach-josh-gold-star-gold-star-gif-593378152944786379

[south pagoda]

i can ask here too then ig, does it matter which ports i use for my Peripherals? (Like 10g vs 40g or 5G)

[quasi field]

It can matter. There are issues with my headset when plugged into lower speed ports. Just plug into the higher speed ones to be sure

[heady zenith]

usb peripherals (unless they are storage devices or certain high bandwidth things like chained MIDI controllers) will most certainly not actually talk anything but USB2

[south pagoda]

even my mouse iwth 8000hz?

[heady zenith]

yes

thats a usb2 feature

[south pagoda]

so usb 3 is enough for everything?

[heady zenith]

i mean technically usb2 is enough for most things but if your board just has usb3 just plug it in anywhere

id start with the lower speed ports

so you keep the high speed ones free for thumbdrives/external drives

[south pagoda]

i got 4tb i dont need anymore storage

so i just use the 10g red usb a ports then?

[heady zenith]

any should do as i just said

[tulip tide]

i'm looking for some premium controller, my 8bitdo has given up on me, the dongle broke.. i was looking at the flydigi apex 5, any other recommendations?

[heady zenith]

elite series 2

best controller ive used so far

and if people would make nice drivers for it the NSO GC controller is also nice

[tulip tide]

no usb dongle i imagine?

[heady zenith]

youd need a bluetooth card/dongle or constantly use a usb cable

specifcically one with BT LE

[tulip tide]

yeah i usually switch between 2,4ghz dongle and bluetooth

the flydigi vader 4 pro also looks great, no dumb oled screen and basically the same controller

[rain turret]

repost cause i left out a vital component

[vital mortar]

🫠

I love you wooting

[shy igloo]

I've been using an EasySMX X20 for a while and it's never done me wrong

[round lagoon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okIpbu1tp_A

TLDR: Make ASIO standard cause windows audio suck ass latency wise

[proper vector]

And so begins an era of explaining skill issue with audio latency and people buying gaming DACs

On Linux Proton makes use of WineASIO to connect to JACK/pipewire by default, so we had it better from beginning

[heady crystal]

I should use my JDS Labs Element III again

Instead of the Elgato Wave 3

[late nebula]

hello everyone can someone tell me about glass mousepad im bit confused

[wet coral]

its glass

[abstract warren]

And fast

[wet coral]

and smooth

[late nebula]

yes Iknow do u have any good ref

like sp004 ou va005

[abstract warren]

I’m more partial to glasswrk pads since they’re slower for glass, but SP004 should be fine

[bitter sapphire]

sp004 is perfect

[wet coral]

va005 is probably gonna be the fastest pad

[abstract warren]

Just don’t use glass skates on it and you should be fine

[wet coral]

glsswrk reselling

[late nebula]

yes for grass i know but you can clean it may i took VA005 thanks

[wet coral]

i just use a bit of water and a microfiber

[late nebula]

yes do u have one

[wet coral]

i use padsmiths empress v2 speed

though idk if they ship to the US anymore since tariffs

[round lagoon]

it's good for browing around internet, and gaming I guess

[bitter sapphire]

It comes with one

[wet coral]

you would have to replace your skates every so often though

[bitter sapphire]

me on default skates still

[wet coral]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-441666516964176409

op1 skates are probably fine

i coulda stuck with my hitscan skates but i wanted to use dots

between the razer and logi mices ive used, hitscan had the best stock skates

[bitter sapphire]

I could change them

[wet coral]

obsidian pros ❌
obsidian airs ☑️

[bitter sapphire]

never used other skates

[wet coral]

pros are fine if you want something a tiny bit slower

[bitter sapphire]

i got used to the soo im fine

[hazy fiber]

Full size skates suck on glass, you'll feel dust every second

[abstract warren]

https://tenor.com/view/working-spongebob-hard-clean-gif-12143196

[bitter sapphire]

I swipe it once maybe twice when im using it

[hazy fiber]

Surely.

[bitter sapphire]

Im using a small area when im on mouse anyway

[patent patrol]

mouse so good that i had to buy a second one

[bitter sapphire]

Why are u lieing

[patent patrol]

Nah its peak

https://fixupx.com/glorious/status/1971205126141698512?s=46

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FixupX · Sep 25, 2025, 1:28 PM

dual battery lol

[proper vector]

died that fast?

[patent patrol]

it just dropped in price 1 day after i bought it lol

so imma return one

[hazy fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1305905837017137173/1349593293079449630/attachment.gif

[patent patrol]

where updated version with cs

[white jackal]

All i gotta say is

Logitech starts with L and has no W

Wooting starts with W and has no L

Think about that

[hazy fiber]

[patent patrol]

where wooting mouse

[abstract warren]

Real

[wispy blaze]

Wlmouse is making solid shell magnesium now?

[hazy fiber]

I know they have solid shell forged carbon but dunno about magnesium

[frigid ivy]

How much you saving?

[rain turret]

Was it that good that you are actually keeping it?

[patent patrol]

17€ 😭

[patent patrol]

ye new main

[rain turret]

i see

[frigid ivy]

Thought you said it was a touch too small?

[patent patrol]

i think i got used to it

and going back to the normal one felt weirdd

[wispy blaze]

Going back to any gpx feels weird (bad)

[frigid ivy]

65+ grams on a premium mouse in 2025? Who glorious does think they are, logitech?

[wispy blaze]

Laughs in logis x2 superstrike

[round lagoon]

Ayy, you can afford a meal with that saving

[patent patrol]

imma spend it on discord decorations

[frigid ivy]

17 euros is like a nice meal at a dine in casual place

[patent patrol]

yep

hope the skate makers are fast

[frigid ivy]

I do like the idea of hotswap batteries mouse but not from glorious

[rain turret]

I'm more applauding the fact that bro is brave to have 2 mices worth outta pocket, for however short period of time it is, just for the hassle

[abstract warren]

If that’s ultralight weight I hate to see what they think is heavy

[patent patrol]

im not gonna go bankrupt bc of some mice lol

[rain turret]

Still funny

[round lagoon]

$20 is $20

[frigid ivy]

If they could make a mouse with hotswap battery at around 55 grams, that would be cool

[rain turret]

Nah, it's actually alot more ^^

[frigid ivy]

It's like 300 euros tied up in mice

[abstract warren]

@hazy fiber send the video of the guy throwing the Logitech mouse out the window

[round lagoon]

since it's hotswap, they can get away with smaller battery. 3-5 hours on 2khz to 4khz but include 2 extra and a charging dock

[abstract warren]

Nature is healing thank you

[languid ridge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGoyC01MP5s

[frigid ivy]

Yeah, as long as the battery life is longer than the charge time

Technically infinite battery life

[patent patrol]

the mouse also came a day late so i got 5€ amazon gift card

[round lagoon]

hmm, need to get a new glasses, it makes a sound when I move my head around and wearing a headphone

maybe something with thin metal frame since I also found mine to interfere with IEM's comfort but not too egregious.

[rigid dagger]

rip mouse

[torpid trail]

Why the gloves lol

[quasi field]

Loudspeaker masterrace

[proper vector]

What about quietspeakers?

[torpid trail]

What about no speakers?

[wispy blaze]

So he wouldnt have to touch a gpx

[abstract warren]

Touching a GPX will soil your hand and will require immediate exfoliation

[sinful swift]

Is there an official guide showing how much louder each percentage of volume in the slider is than the next? I’ve managed to match 8% to 75dB on my configuration

[heady zenith]

iirc the slider doesnt control dB but voltage on the output

i think you can however calculate the impact it has on dB

https://www.tenforums.com/sound-audio/208334-output-volume.html

good explanation i think

[sinful swift]

Alr thanks

Using Truthear Hexa + FiiO KA11, very easy to blow your eardrums out if you aren’t careful, currently using 10% which sounds the exact same as 80dB on earbuds

[heady crystal]

Any DeathAdder V4 Pro enjoyers?

[patent patrol]

i tried it

[torpid trail]

Yes me

Only mouse that fits my giant manpaws

Razer deathadder has been my go to mouse since it came out due to its shape and size. I tried the v1 for a long time then upgraded to the v4 pro recently. The v1 lasted me all the way to this year

[torpid trail]

Did you have questions about it or something?

[heady crystal]

Considering a new mouse

[wispy blaze]

What's your hand size?

[jolly pulsar]

spray lysol on em

[torpid trail]

XL

[wispy blaze]

Got an actual measurement or nah

[torpid trail]

9 inches slightly to the left

[terse ferry]

I use same setup and 30% is quite quiet

[sinful swift]

It shouldn’t make any difference what motherboard you have because it doesn’t use the motherboard DAC, 30% is like 95dB for me which is above safe levels

[terse ferry]

Well maybe my case usb c doesent get enough power

[sinful swift]

You could try using a pair of earbuds that have a dB cap if you have any, don’t use the ios or android one because it doesn’t read the specs of your earbuds and just lowers it by a certain amount depending on the phone volume, you’ll need to cap it with a software that can recognise what device you are using like Soundcore’s app

But if it doesn’t seem overly loud it probably isn’t

I used to use 25% and that gave me a lot of fatigue after like an hour of playing

[terse ferry]

I use hexa + ka11..

[sinful swift]

Yeah they don’t have a cap, what I did was put in my soundcore earbud in one ear and hexa in the other, play pink noise at 75db on soundcore and also the hexa and change the windows volume on the hexa to try and match the loudness, and for me on 75db 6 was noticeably quieter, 10 was noticeably louder, and 8 was basically perfect so 8 ≈ 75 dB

[pure matrix]

L/R?

[pure matrix]

Beast X Pro,
Pros: Colour, Cat Dongle
Cons: Solid sides
Strider,
Pros: Colour
Cons: No cat dongle, poorer package contents

[rain turret]

neither tbh, but i don't have a magnesium altenative to mention either. The CF i would also has hollow shell, i'm just generally staying away from those.

[lament siren]

i have the Left but in white and i like it. I want to try the mini though

[lament siren]

you can buy slit slides unless they dont have it in orange

i have solid slides

[pure matrix]

Side slits looks way cooler for me but since I’m not chasing weight, I think solid slides will also be good, though less aesthetic

[lament siren]

more comfy too

i love this mouse i wish i bought it earlier

i spend like $400 altogether buying the gxp 2 then getting sora v2 ($200 each mouse) and i should have bought this mouse from the start

[pure matrix]

Oh I can also get full white strider for 130usd

[terse ferry]

For me anything above 30% hurts my ears and 20% is too quiet

[patent patrol]

https://eu.sennheiser-hearing.com/cdn/shop/files/hd_500_bam_hd_550_grey_final_1200x1200.jpg?v=1758550238

sennheiser made a mic for 500 series :o

[heady crystal]

But is it good?

[patent patrol]

good question

HD 500 BAM

[sinful swift]

Thats a very small range

[terse ferry]

Well i use it on my case usb c port

[fluid swan]

Should I upgrade from an OP18k to an OP18k V2?

[rain turret]

Whats the diff? i haven't really checked

[hazy fiber]

Sensor

So no, it's not worth upgrading

[rain turret]

[sinful swift]

Yeah same

It shouldn’t make any difference

Case usb c ports have enough power to charge devices at decent speeds so definitely enough for a small dac like the ka11

[shy igloo]

didnt want to rip the artisan dots off my vv3 pro to use my glass pad, so i picked up a g pro x superlight 2 to use on glass pads

[wet coral]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-cat-silly-car-car-stare-10-thousand-yard-stare-10-thousand-yard-gif-14200271775968563996

[shy igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-kitten-money-rich-gif-26085286

i wanted to try it anyway, never have, and i got it on sale

it just lined up well

also bought an apple watch

[abstract warren]

You probably would end up doing so, after like 3-4 weeks you’ll notice they slow down tremendously

I noticed a little more consistency speed wise with jade dots

[shy igloo]

I just replaced them 3 days ago, which is why I don't wanna rip them fresh off

[abstract warren]

Ah

Gotcha

[patent patrol]

magic ice my goat

[wet coral]

must consoom

[shy igloo]

Fitbit died and need to monitor exercise somehow

[heady crystal]

Apple Watch is good though

[woven cairn]

lol whut?

[hazy fiber]

X2H Crazylight

[mental spade]

I just want that pulsar x vaxee collab

But I do like the x2h shape

I see they're also running a poll right now to change the naming scheme of their mice after Logitechs new mouse

[hazy fiber]

Oh no

[round lagoon]

the more I listen to the 490, the more I want to get something cheaper but similar to it

like 560, but I want it closed back this time because I wanna to bring it to the arcade

also my alba is coming back from RMA! Which means I can now properly compare it against the SM4

[tepid oracle]

hello guys, what the best mouse gaming in 2025 ?

[round lagoon]

I mean like, I want something similar but cheaper since I wanna bring it around outside

the hd490 stay at home

[pure matrix]

Ok so:
Beast X Pro or Ulx Prophecy Scream M(Used)
$149 vs ≈$145

[wind basalt]

Yo, what’s a good headset with mic that has good sound quality and good mic quality

[quasi field]

Astro A50 Gen 5

[wind basalt]

Aight imma look into that thx

[proper vector]

Beast X

[proper vector]

Fractal Scape

[wind basalt]

Aight thx

[pure matrix]

Ordered

[wispy blaze]

I would avoid the ulx

Especially if its used

[pure matrix]

Well as you can see

[wispy blaze]

You made the right decision 🔥

[round lagoon]

hmm, ochestral lite have soo little bass lmao

ie200 match my eqed sm4 closely

I still somewhat think kiwi ears astral + bass reduction with eq is also nice to me.

[lament siren]

beast x pro

[lament siren]

https://tenor.com/view/welcome-to-the-family-son-gif-7831723

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-bocchi-bocchi-dance-anime-dance-anime-cute-dance-gif-8640564821222907754

[hazy fiber]

https://www.pulsar.gg/products/x2h-crazylight-gaming-mouse?variant=47207675822334

😳

[bitter ore]

anyone tried the crinacle blue2?

i kinda want to go to his store to try it out but its such a hassle lol

@round lagoon do u have a rec for bassier iems?

[round lagoon]

Budget?

[bitter ore]

about 100ish

[round lagoon]

Juzear Defiant, not as bassy as Blue2 with the impedence adapter but as bassy as regular blue2 with more midbass and lower treble

[bitter ore]

u know a website i can snag it with and mic cable as well?

what am i talkign about

amazon

tho ngl

i might just get the zero blues

i just like the look

[round lagoon]

Just go with whatever lmao

I go with defiant just because it has lower treble

[bitter ore]

yea i dont think i will make out the difference that much

[wispy blaze]

using it rn

ive been enjoying it (only other iem ive tried is zero red tho)

[plucky cedar]

It has arrived... About to become 3% better at aiming...

[fickle pier]

100$ just for 3% 😭

I'm planning to buy one so tell me how it is

[proper vector]

-5% at start, because you have to get used to it

[round lagoon]

damn, hd620s with hd560s pads makes it look more like hd490. HMMM

[torpid trail]

I have the artisan type 99 mid pad. Best control mousepad ive ever owned. Zero was still too slick for me for a control pad

[mental spade]

That's because it's more a balanced pad than a control pad, it was just the slowest option artisan had for a long time

[plucky cedar]

I need it both for CS2 as well as THE FINALS. I think those are two completely different aim styles. I was worried if I went with a control pad I would have a good one for CS2 but not THE FINALS... I enjoy THE FINALS a lot more recently so limiting my pad to a control focus would have been not ideal IMO.

[torpid trail]

Idk i play 800 dpi on type 99 and adjust sensitivity in each game independently

Slick mousepads make me aim worst my aim goes all over the place. Type 99 made me a headshot dominator

Qck heavy is also an awesome pad

[mental spade]

It is a good pad it just only stays that way for ~3 months before it slows down and I don't like it as much

[torpid trail]

The qck heavy? Wash it in your laundry machine and it becomes slick again

Artisans one complaint from me is they are tough to wash. They get damaged easy. Dont wash them in a laundry machine

[hazy fiber]

You DON'T wash artisan mousepads in a washing machine

[patent patrol]

??

[torpid trail]

Thats literally what i just said

They arent easy to keep clean

[plain schooner]

Bro that is not what you said at all

[torpid trail]

Yes it is 😆 ||i totally didnt edit my original message||

But no the only way i found to keep artisans clean is a damp cloth and some scrubbing

I like mousepads i can just throw in the laundry machine and dryer more though

[hazy fiber]

Hand wash every 2-3 months with a dishsoap

[torpid trail]

Still feels super soapy no matter how much i rinse and ring it out. I jsut scrub it once every two days with a lightly damp cloth and it keeps it clean

[mental spade]

Washing doesn't fix the slowing issue unfortunately and it's an uneven slowness because you get areas that are slower than others

[patent patrol]

fix zero hair issue

[mental spade]

I fixed it by moving to a different pad

[patent patrol]

shit was too expensive to move away 😭

[mental spade]

Have a Saturn Pro but it has its downsides it's not as soft as the zero

[patent patrol]

like fabric wise or cushion

[mental spade]

Surface texture is more rough

[torpid trail]

Wdym hair issue

[mental spade]

Hair gets stuck in the weave and it's very difficult to pull out

[hazy fiber]

Hopper does your Gecko have slow spots? It's like a mudpad for me😭

[torpid trail]

Thats weird.

What are easier to keep clean alternatives to artisans

[mental spade]

Saturn Pro is pretty similar speed wise

[rain turret]

holy chadPad, which one did you get exactly?

[plucky cedar]

Ninja FX Zero XL Daidai Orange

[rain turret]

thank you Sir, getting one tomorrow and i wanted to see what others are getting, for inspiration.

[trail wadi]

@fossil hamlet top 10 mice by csgo pros in 2016
EC2A
Zowie FK
Zowie za
Steelseries rival 300
Steelseires sensei raw
Logitech g403
Logitech g pro (literally g203 shape with a worse cable)
G900
Deathadder elite
Zowie fk1+

Idk shit about casuals but like how can u argue the g502 is like Ronaldo when

There were so many better options

I don't get it

Only one that's off is the sensei raw cuz it had some weird ass laser sensor

[fossil hamlet]

i already said if you played cs you used zowie

[trail wadi]

Yes so what advantage does the 502 have

[fossil hamlet]

it doesn't in cs

[trail wadi]

Aside from having a massive button where ppl want to grip the mouse

Yes I'm not saying cs

[fossil hamlet]

you used zowie

[trail wadi]

In any other game

What advantage does a more awkward shape and heavier mouse have

[fossil hamlet]

in every other game it was better than the other options in 9/10 scenarios

[trail wadi]

The scroll wheel for productivity?

[fossil hamlet]

scroll wheel was sick

build was thanos

[trail wadi]

I would argue in league it's worse cuz mouse accuracy is important

[fossil hamlet]

never broke

amazing sensor

[trail wadi]

Scroll wheel was very nice

[fossil hamlet]

high quality cable

super ergo

[trail wadi]

Sensor matched every other top mouse I listed except the raw

[fossil hamlet]

good buttons

[trail wadi]

Pixart 3360 equivilant or whatever

[fossil hamlet]

side buttons

decent software

[trail wadi]

I think the g203 is better than the old g pro

Cuz of the cable diff

It was same mouse but not like

Braided heavy cable

[fossil hamlet]

did you use a g203

[trail wadi]

Yes

[fossil hamlet]

okay

i can tell

[trail wadi]

I owned a g402 g403 and g502 back then too

And rival 300, EC2A and deathadder elite

Rival 300 issue was the grip getting worn easily

And getting finger holes

Rly nice shape tho

[trail wadi]

Only diff between the wired g pro and the g203 was sensor but back then they were already so good there was 0 diff

[fossil hamlet]

you're naming decent mice

[trail wadi]

Not talking about g pro super light

The og old one

[fossil hamlet]

but not a soul will call those a goat

the 203 is not on mount rushmore

[trail wadi]

It's not but

[fossil hamlet]

you're lying to yourself

[trail wadi]

In hindsight it's just better for aiming

Ppl back then thought

Putting weights in Ur mouse was good

That was common consensus

[fossil hamlet]

weight is a schizo craze

[trail wadi]

I mean making Ur 100g mouse 150g is more schizo

Ppl r deffo overboard with it

[fossil hamlet]

it is, i don't think anyone used the weights

[trail wadi]

I'd rather have 60g high quality vaxee than 30g china mouse

[fossil hamlet]

i agree

[trail wadi]

Some of my friends who played MC did

[fossil hamlet]

the thing is

like i've been saying the whole time

[trail wadi]

The side button on the g502 made the mouse quite literally unusable for me tho

[fossil hamlet]

you can search this up and ask chatgpt like i just have

the g502 is the jack of all trades

you want a mouse? you get it

[trail wadi]

Like they put a button

Where a decent amount of ppl grip it

[fossil hamlet]

you probably had a weird grip that would just suited for fingertip or something

[trail wadi]

There was a top osu player who used the g402 back in the day and he bent his thumb at an insane angle to avoid the button on that one cuz it's in same place

[fossil hamlet]

g502 was more for palm

[trail wadi]

Or ppl would hold the mouse like further back

But that would destroy weight balance for me

[trail wadi]

Maybe that's why

I feel like deathadder is also extremely comfortable palm also for the deathadder elite

I still don't know what issues ppl had

That mouse was also a tank with basically perfect sensor

[fossil hamlet]

i heard the deathadder quality was just absolute dogshit

double clicking was insane

[trail wadi]

Never heard that in my life

[fossil hamlet]

and people would have sensor spinout or whatever that shit is called

[trail wadi]

Maybe the model before the elite

[fossil hamlet]

when you'd spin

[trail wadi]

But the elite had same quality sensor as pixart 3360

I know what sensor Spinout is

The elite didn't have it

We have rocketjumpninja sensor testing to prove it

He was massively on sensor Spinout

And would test every single mouse for it

Idk which model came before deathadder elite tho

Deathadder essential?

[fossil hamlet]

i think it was just called the deathadder

deathadder essential is a thing but that came way later

i mean the model that's like

after the blue one

2013

[trail wadi]

The elite has a 3389 sensor

The 3360 didn't have Spinout I'm p sure

It was 3360 or 3366

But after that Spinout and sensor became non issue

[fossil hamlet]

as it should

no spinout is not a plus

it should be a given

same as double clicking

g502 had double clicking issues too but it was really bad on the deathadder

[trail wadi]

Ah yeah deathadder chroma from 2014-2015 spunout 3310 sensor

Ig deathadder elite they just fixed everything

[fossil hamlet]

none of my mice ever had double clicking so it's usage thing ig

[trail wadi]

Mine was used like 4 years never double clicked ever

Nor heard of it

[trail wadi]

It's a given now but back then not all mice did

At least as far as I know

Like the more niche stuff

[fossil hamlet]

the deathadder had spinout though

i don't think it was super common like the double clicking but it happened

logitech like doing these jack of all trades mice

[trail wadi]

https://youtu.be/qHZpUbT4alA

[fossil hamlet]

like the superlight

they don't really care to compete with vaxee and shit

[trail wadi]

True but tbh I think there r better super light like options

That imo fit more ppl

But u can't go wrong with most mice

Like I think viper V3 pro most aimers just prefer

And then lamzu Maya x is also just slightly better overall in shape and design

[hazy fiber]

Crazylight

[trail wadi]

I pre-ordered the prx medium

[hazy fiber]

I have mini

Love the shape

[fossil hamlet]

dav3 is what resurged razer peripherals into the pro fps scene

no one used shit before that

[trail wadi]

Viper was in pro scene in CS as well

[hazy fiber]

35g but it's built like a tank, no flex or creak

[trail wadi]

Idk how tightly U followed pro cs

But razer never left

I don't think it dropped below 20% usage

Ever

Among pros

[fossil hamlet]

when was viper 1

[trail wadi]

Not sure

Even razer mamba was used

Remember that mouse

Holy

It was not good

[hazy fiber]

I have Viper v3 and Crazylight now, Viper is just too big and feels like a brick after using CL

Can't imagine G502

[trail wadi]

My hands Hella big so

Idk how mini would be for me

[fossil hamlet]

just found out 47% of pros were using the superlight in 2022

[trail wadi]

Makes sense

[fossil hamlet]

mice have metas

g502 was meta

not anymore

[trail wadi]

Not in proplay

[fossil hamlet]

big market now

case closed

[hazy fiber]

Was meta for browsing

[trail wadi]

I don't think it being popular for average person is good argument it's good product

Well I won't say it wasn't good but

[fossil hamlet]

average people used a dell mouse

[trail wadi]

It's not good argument it was the BEST

[fossil hamlet]

it was THE gaming mouse

[trail wadi]

I think there were better options

And most pros didn't use it

I think is a decent argument case

As to it not being as good

[trail wadi]

Super light was low-key the best or one of the best at the time tho

Other companies just hard overtook it insanely fast

And proplay takes a while to adapt

Took years for them to start using wooting for example

Artisan mousepads took years to become meta too

10% of CS pros still use non hall affect Logitech keyboards

Nvm 20% 💀

[grim crater]

My Viper V3 Pro isn't charging properly. How can I fix this?

[quasi field]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TPQdRj5uo0

I'm so looking forward to 5k 27 inch gaming monitors

https://tenor.com/view/meru-the-succubus-merunyaa-meru-meru-the-succub-gif-12746936044359768769

[proper vector]

960p upscaled to 2880p

[white jackal]

dont forget about 4/5 frames being generated as well

[proper vector]

That feeling when 5090 has 3.8x raw power than PS5 and yet games look similar on PS5 and PC

[civic iris]

I’ve got the Razer Deathadder v4 pro in the mail

[plain schooner]

Thumb head

[quasi field]

https://tenor.com/view/thumb-spykids-thumba-thumbb-clumpsy-gif-5275116

[round lagoon]

https://wallhack.com/en-int/products/sp-004a-black smol sp004

well, 'smol'

[tulip tide]

39x45cm small

i dont like this brandig at all, i really miss the small cloud on the bottom right

[round lagoon]

I would rather them removing the big ass wallhack letters

the original sp004 is already pretty nice when it comes to the branding. Just a corner with the name on it

[astral musk]

Just rub it off with some IPA or Brown Soap?

That's what us cool kids did back in the day when Steelseries were called Icemat. You'd peel and rub the paint off and put your own art on the bottomside, mirror up.

[ancient mantle]

Will say though switching from 1444p to 4k on my main monitor definitely a noticeable improvement in clarity. at 27inch.

I think I would not notice much sharpnes benefit of going 5k at that size.

screen roughly an arm's length away

[vital gorge]

you will with text. it just a smidge crisper. 4k is good enough, but 5k is very good.

[ancient mantle]

Could be have not tried it but distance matters and I am not super close to my screen. Still 1440p to 4k definitely noticable in desktop use.

[vital gorge]

yeah its great.

[ancient mantle]

Also nice 150% scaling from 1440p same size of text and display size (assuming you use linux and not windows)

Interger scaling for 5k would be a good perk. Also in terms of sharpness using ips may be a bit better than oled.

[quasi field]

5k must be a nice noticeable upgrade in games with AA off

[ancient mantle]

AA off you will notice a lot, in modern games with complex geometry

[patent patrol]

for the oleds we have nowadays yes

evil lg

[mental spade]

Just need that 32" 5-6k 240hz tandem OLED is that too much to ask?

[patent patrol]

5k 27 dual mode...

[ancient mantle]

Hmm would love that.

[vital gorge]

meh, i dont need the super high refresh. just pump 5k at it, and let it scale

[ancient mantle]

Maybe true still on LG dual mode seems like something that doesn't cost much to add. So why not have some fun with it.

[shy igloo]

holy shit the tekkusai guardian is fast as fuck with silver fox skates on a vv3

[abstract warren]

checks out

[quasi field]

https://www.maxgaming.no/no/armer/bordfeste-for-dataskjerm-1-skjerm

Think this would work nicely with my PG27UCDM? I see no reason why it wouldn't, just asking

I just need something simple like this. Don't need a super big movement range or anything

[astral musk]

I'd grab something with SOME movement at least.

This is very limited and depending on how deep your desk is, it's going to set very far back.

[quasi field]

The movement is enough for me. All I really need is to get my monitor a bit further away from me and to clear some space on the desk. That seems to do all that and cheaply

[leaden flume]

doubt that would be possible, considering the art or in this instance letters, is usually not printed on top of the glass pad

[leaden flume]

you should try out Ultraglide silences! Fastest skates I have used on tekkusai beast and phantom to this day

[astral musk]

Depends on how it's put into/onto the pad.

[shy igloo]

I've been trying to find a decent skate I can use on glass AND cloth, because I like to switch back to my Artisan pads sometimes but nothing feels decent on both surfaces

[leaden flume]

dont think u will get both, like whats good on cloth will feel or quickly become scratchy on glass. And what's great on glass will end up with the same problem on cloth. in my experience at least

[shy igloo]

silver fox feel good on glass, not HORRIBLE on cloth, but just not good enough

[leaden flume]

but why both?

like cloth and glass?

[shy igloo]

I main cloth on valorant n cs when I play

always have done

plus when im working from home

[leaden flume]

I see, play those games too, but I have completely switched over to glass. don't rlly understand why u wont just make the full switch urself?
maining tekkusai Phantom now, fastest pad on the marked, which kinda blew my mind that there was something faster than the beast, lol

[shy igloo]

because I've always played tac shooters on control pads, even an artisan raiden in cs2 sometimes is too fast, hit my peak ranks on the zero soft

before that it was a zowie gsr

i main glass in cod and will in bf6

and apex (when i rarely play it)

[patent patrol]

get two mice

[leaden flume]

was honestly thinking the same myself, if making a full switch to either does not seem to be an option

[leaden flume]

problem solved, lol

[shy igloo]

thats the solution im using, im saying IDEALLY i wouldnt have to

which is why im spam trying skates lol

[leaden flume]

doubt u will find those skates that u are looking for

mainly due to the skates u want for glass is the opposite for what u want for cloth

[shy igloo]

its worth tryin

skates are cheap

[leaden flume]

maybe donut skates could be an option as a middle ground.
would say to try out jade air donut skates.

would not be the best option for glass, in terms of speed.. but not terrible

also jade air dots in general is amazing on the beast, which I assume would be great on guardian too.
So knowing that jade air is good, I would think that the donut version would not be a terrible option to go between glass and cloth

[shy igloo]

tried dots and fullsize, donuts are on the way to try

I used to main jade dots on the artisan zero

[leaden flume]

would love to hear ur experience with the donuts once u recieve them. if u could tagg me later about those :3

donuts****

[abstract warren]

Finding the right skates you like on cloth and glass is extremely hard to find. You’re better off having different dots on both.

[shy igloo]

i mained glass 100% long ago with obsidians but dont find them as smooth anymore

on a few different tekkusai pads

[abstract warren]

If you don’t mind a slight uptick in noise, TJ Plastix skates on glass felt the best to me on Kazemi

Great control and decent speed to them

Their main con being they’re little bit more noisy than obsidian air