🤩│wooting60hev2

[opaque depot]

would be a sick move from wooting to just burn em right back about that holy clone and the HM80

[short hare]

no focus on drama, only vibes

[hearty breach]

that's not professional and too much drama

way better to spend the time on improving product and being in the community

[oblique pendant]

I can't wait for them to release wooting knob clone and make it only work on their new board.

[hearty breach]

spread love not hate

[opaque depot]

"professional" left brand twitter like 10 years ago

nobody wants professional brands

[slim mural]

wise words

[hardy wadi]

spread the wooting

[slim mural]

Raquel, who made these Wooting Emotes? I forgot to ask, they are really well made

[vast dagger]

#📣│announcements message

[slim mural]

bunoffie the GOAT

[wheat wadi]

would warranty cover any of the first batch containing flaws?

[spring stirrup]

Yes.

[sinful plover]

Tf kinda question is that

[wheat wadi]

thanks!!

[spring stirrup]

You have 4 years of warranty

[sinful plover]

Also why are people suddenly bringing this up

Did someone make a tiktok saying some bs

[wheat wadi]

what??

i was just curious for myself as i plan to purchase the v2

[sinful plover]

There was one other person saying that first batch would have issues and wouldnt be supported

Which is obviously incorrect

[rotund lotus]

There are companies out there who, when presented with a problem with the first run of their products, just say "sorry about your luck, buy a new one if you want one without problems"

[wheat wadi]

oh this is the first im hearing about this

[sinful plover]

I dont think that would fly for a company based in the EU

[spring stirrup]

Don't worry. If anything goes wrong, you are covered.

[rotund lotus]

You'd be surprised...

[wheat wadi]

appreciate the help!

[grim glen]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-shocked-face-stunned-pokemon-shocked-not-shocked-omg-gif-24112152

like so

[rotund lotus]

More like....

https://tenor.com/view/surprise-motherfucker-surprisemotherfucker-sorpresa-gif-5352423

[hearty breach]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-dexter-morgan-morgan-morgan-dexter-dexter-ewww-gif-10083604162228652049

[hearty breach]

i had that experience

all i can say

https://tenor.com/view/baby-girl-middle-finger-mood-screw-you-leave-me-alone-gif-10174031

[opaque depot]

that's when you take the issue to consumer protection of the country they operate in

[rotund lotus]

Louis Rossman has an entire Wiki database on how difficult that is

[opaque depot]

well that's good, then you don't have to figure it out 👍

[tropic relic]

ODR made it so easy but they fucking ended it 🥀

now it’s almost impossible to get shit fixed easily

[winter cedar]

afaik R2R is going strong, no? Or am I missing something?

[tropic relic]

well, having the right to repair a product that was defective on arrival (and the company doesn’t give a fuck about 14-day returns or 2-year warranty), then the right to repair doesn’t mean much.. 😭

[wooden bluff]

I swapped to US International layout, so needed to update this now. How I plan to bind things on v2 split.
os key and r-ctrl needed to swap places for me, because it's very nice to minimize windows quickly with os + down arrow (but here also Fn between).
also have a free big key of the right left from r-shift to use for something.
(Menu key is bindable in games, but its position here fits especially well for ESDF gaming - can swap with caps lock for WASD gaming I guess (also for easier access to caps from homerow))

[lucid trout]

Well on this layout still there is too much going on

[wooden bluff]

because I at same time want to make it more similar to my layout on another orthogonal kb and also because standard layout is never been great for gaming or much comfort, it wasn't designed for gaming.
but additionally if you look at oem and cherry and some other other keycap profiles - they're also not made for gaming, because they have like jagged upward vertical transitions between them - like try have pinky on Ctrl and transition it to Shift, back and forth, without lifting it much, it's just not meant to be used this way.

[lucid trout]

Ortogonal?

[wooden bluff]

the point being is that almost all if not all keyboards that market themselves for gaming, even wooting, are not actually prioritizing gaming as much as they should (as well as not comfort enough as they should, for just office usage etc).

[cunning stirrup]

Will the OW60 work for v2?

[opaque depot]

friction fit only

[tropic relic]

For the regular 60HE v2 (non-split space), yeah.

For the split space it’s friction fit only.

So you can’t use the friction/gasket piece that comes with the OW60.

[cunning stirrup]

Thanks!

[subtle cloak]

Holy the wait is excruciating

[raw herald]

I have decided to just cut my 60HE spacebar in half with a Dremel to get by during the wait

[subtle cloak]

Understandable

[tropic relic]

https://youtu.be/dC1FpPY2OnA

[oblique pendant]

Yay, there'll be plastic case

[wooden bluff]

[grim glen]

for context thats a concept we threw out in favor of the current split

[tropic relic]

too many layout criminals at woot

[grim glen]

i agree

idk why we ever did any boards below 100%

its criminal

170% keyboards or there about is where its at

[tropic relic]

is the split space layout set in stone rn?

already in production or whatnot?

[grim glen]

idk tbh

i know there was sample of it that were tried by people internally

but idk if its like done done

[wooden bluff]

but also nowhere was mentioned that the left spacebar, since bigger, is better to be used for space, but right one is not really usable for space as much, but better used for backspace instead (also since backspace is used less than space, and now has much better position than stretching hand up left).

[tropic relic]

were the ergonomics of the 275-125-225 split discussed internally?

if so, then I’m done

[grim glen]

i only know that everyone who used it liked it

[wooden bluff]

ok but what do they use the right spacebar for, or the middle key then.

[grim glen]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tropic relic]

that doesn’t matter, facts do 😭😭😭

[grim glen]

facts are the keyboard is unergonomic anyway

[tropic relic]

everyone has symmetrical hands man

[grim glen]

its not split, tented or negative angle

[tropic relic]

don’t need to make it worse than it is 🥀

[grim glen]

if you have more specific questions youll have to find someone using it from the staff

[tropic relic]

nah, just if it was discussed

it’s alr

[grim glen]

i mean usually design discussions i just tune out

[tropic relic]

lol

[grim glen]

unless its discussing a new 2he or 100%+ design

then im all ears

[wooden bluff]

like the best way to use it, that I found is just something like this. everything considered this just makes more sense than something else:

[timber nimbus]

There’s little to no chance the layout is changing now

[tropic relic]

I’ll send a pigeon to calder, kindly requesting him to withdraw his statement about caring for ergonomics 😭

[grim glen]

send the ninjas

[timber nimbus]

i'm quite enjoying my split for extra game binds

[tropic relic]

that’d be too intimidating, we don’t want that

[grim glen]

the pigeons will just be cooked

[timber nimbus]

it's long long long past the chance where any of this could have a chance of affecting the layout this majorly btw. Probably like 5 "split spacebar is not ergonomic for my usage" discussions ago

[grim glen]

thats yesterday

[tropic relic]

not set in stone is all it took last time

and this time it’s factually incorrect and against woot’s word, so I had some hope

I’m sure you can get that

😭

[timber nimbus]

i don't because you pick your side of the discussion purely based on what you prefer and are happy to break that logic if a 64% or similar comes out

[lucid trout]

Eww 65%

[timber nimbus]

the discussion is always and will forever be "I'm going to argue this side of it because I want it" not for any other real reason or logic

[tropic relic]

nah, I base my argument on fact here, as I stated for 64%s as well.

[grim glen]

ill call the wambulance already

[timber nimbus]

very clearly there isn't a large crowd backing the concept so it's kind of pointless to discuss

if you had the traction of the arrow key 80he issue then sure, but you'd need that level of support plus for this to have happened long ago as well

neither of which is happening so nothing much to discuss here

[tropic relic]

large crowd doesn’t really matter here, it did for the 80HE as that was solely opinion, not so much fact (though I’d like to think that it was).

[lucid trout]

Atleast most annoying crowd stopped coping for their layout

[timber nimbus]

it got changed because it had lots of people wanting it basically. That isn't happening with this one

[tropic relic]

caring solely about what people can get behind, especially when it’s about something most people have never used is kinda unproductive imo

[tropic relic]

if you round down how many people here have used split space, it’d be 0%.

and this has nothing to do with aesthetics, you’ll notice it when you use it.

[timber nimbus]

i've literally been using it for awhile now

[tropic relic]

you don’t press space with your right thumb.

[timber nimbus]

yep. and neither do a lot of other people who don't type ergonomically

[grim glen]

there is people using right thumb for space?

[tropic relic]

the argument for 275 on the left is self defeating argument, you know it.

[raw herald]

🖐️ I use both thumbs for space

(when typing)

[grim glen]

im really flabbergasted rn that people actually use their right thumb to hit space..... i have always used my left one

[timber nimbus]

it's not really self defeating. You just believe your usage is correct and other usages of it are wrong and therefore illogical to you

[tropic relic]

woot says they care for ergonomics and threw ergonomics out the window for split space, that’s the problem I have with it.

[timber nimbus]

which is how this argument has always been for you.

[tropic relic]

nah, it’s self defeating

[wooden bluff]

i will suggest some new product that does everything possible for best gaming experience (but also works for other things).
it's ortho, split halves, slight concave case curve, using hitbox-like, easy to transition between, button-keys (shape between circle and square). has heavy zinc case, with wrist rest attached so the halves don't move while gaming. etc.
with 3 halves, left one linear you swap in for gaming, the other 2 tactile for more comfort use.

this would be like the perfect gaming keyboard (that is also usable for other things).

[timber nimbus]

you just don't care about the other usages and if they don't use it the same way as you then you say they're wrong or self defeating or whatever else

[tropic relic]

your left hand is the mirror of your right (for most people)

[raw herald]

I probably use left thumb 80% of the time - I think it depends on how busy my left hand is?

[tropic relic]

the only argument for the current split is if your hands look like this brother 😭

[raw herald]

unholy

[grim glen]

i use right hand if im leaning back and watching a long video and need to pause. then i just smack the entire spacebar

[timber nimbus]

it just boils down to the same old argument over and over, which is if someone doesn't use their keyboard the way you do then you name them as incorrect, illogical, wrong, self defeating etc etc. Even though there's a very large crowd who use it like that

[grim glen]

so your hands look like this but mirrored?

[tropic relic]

it’s wrong because of ergonomics

[raw herald]

I would never seriously imply that people not using it the same way I do is wrong

[timber nimbus]

yeah i mean aligner

not you of course

[tropic relic]

nah, my hands are the same

[wooden bluff]

you think you will convince many with this argument, but this is just complete nonsense.
just stop with this.

[tropic relic]

😭😭

[timber nimbus]

aligners argument is always if you don't have the same habit/typing style as me you're wrong and i don't care

[tropic relic]

I don’t either brother

ergonomics are facts, nothing about that says everyone that doesn’t use it like that are worng

that’s something I’ve never said either

just you

[grim glen]

anyway while i learned that apparently people press space with their right thumb i also want us all to calm down and we just end the topic with: the layout most likely wont change anymore

just so we all can spend time more productively

[timber nimbus]

okay so then using the keyboard non ergonomically is perfectly valid and great, so we don't need to change the keyboard to cator to a small group of folks who do

i'm glad we could come to a conclusion

[lucid trout]

Everyone has diffrent hands tho

[grim glen]

ill even draw a line below which we dont restart this discussion

[tropic relic]

then woot shouldn’t claim to care for ergonimcs as I’ve said a couple times now

[tropic relic]

true

[grim glen]

https://tenor.com/view/shhh-shush-silence-nose-gif-17895433

ill just delete more discussion about this

[raw herald]

I have no idea if folks are gonna like the split, but I'm looking forward to finding out. Not getting too worked up about it, nor assuming it will be ideal for my usage.

[grim glen]

lets all just place bets on price

[timber nimbus]

^ this is the right way to go about it really

[grim glen]

ill collect all your bets and dont ask me for payouts

thanks

[tropic relic]

I care.

[grim glen]

stop

please

[lucid trout]

Why not bet on amount of returns for not likeing layout?

[raw herald]

https://tenor.com/view/bold-strategy-dodgeball-cotton-strategy-tactics-gif-4957668

[grim glen]

no sneaking in the old discussion through backdoors

[timber nimbus]

looking forward to wootings 63% keyboard

[lucid trout]

Tony and you propably know price from slack channel.

[grim glen]

if i did know i forgot at this point

i have 0 interest in the sub 100% keyboards of ours

[tropic relic]

170% before they do that

[lucid trout]

Waiting for wooting 112 he

[tropic relic]

it’s niche

[timber nimbus]

tony wasn't in the pricing meeting, so he really doesn't know

[raw herald]

Who doesn't love arrow keys tho

[wooden bluff]

but you will get less returns and more satisfaction if you just also advertised left as space, right as backspace, and middle maybe as enter, and also included keycaps for these and then Delete for the old backspace, and some special legend for the old Enter.
something like this.

[tropic relic]

then get 80he fp ~

[timber nimbus]

at least we don't have to keep the plastic case stuff quiet anymore

[tropic relic]

🥀

[raw herald]

I bought two

But 60% cases are pretty, just want arrows to make the layout kinda usable 😢

[wooden bluff]

"most people use right thumb for space", but this is still learned behavior and not strict necessity either, and easy to re-learn (it also ofc overall makes more sense using left for space, when having mouse in right hand, and you also game with left thumb on space).

[grim glen]

PLS

this will just reignite the discussion

[tropic relic]

I tried to use the right shift on 64 a couple days ago, but my pinky is kinda in between the shift and arrow. if yours is on the far left of shift, you could prob make it work.

[timber nimbus]

i'm going to need all further discussions written via a dvorak layout keyboard

[lucid trout]

Who uses right thumb for spacebar wtf

[timber nimbus]

i actually do once in awhile, but rarely maybe 1/10 times and it's easy enough to tell myself to not do it when i'm on split

[raw herald]

I think that mine does land pretty far left, but as with the split I think it would be hard to know until I try one.

[tropic relic]

what do you use the right spacebar for rn even?

[timber nimbus]

games.

map keys, extra wow keybinds etc

[tropic relic]

you press it with your left thumb?!

[timber nimbus]

yes

[raw herald]

I could see that tbh

[tropic relic]

https://tenor.com/view/thumb-gif-18579750

[raw herald]

If it's occasional use a stretch isn't terrible

[wooden bluff]

it's not for frequent usage hotkeys

[timber nimbus]

yeah it's muscle memory for another 'close-ish' key to press

[raw herald]

Otherwise the right side would see no use for me in gaming

[wooden bluff]

like Inventory on I in games, map on M yeah, it's better using middle button and right space for that ofc

or journal on J

[timber nimbus]

there's a lot of games where just one more keybind would be nice to have and that's where the middle split key is handy

[tropic relic]

middle is quick access

so yeah

but even the right isn’t quick access enough for me

[wooden bluff]

ofc with an ESDF-accommodating keyboard, you would also have that extra column of keys on the left side now, and also be closer to those keys on the right.

[tropic relic]

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-dog-sleeping-sleeping-dog-dog-sleeping-tiny-eepy-dog-gif-2292331323183720739

[timber nimbus]

that's my cue to leave

[wooden bluff]

I didn't even know I had Rewards from my previous purchases, but would be nice like to convert my Reward for discount for this next v2 order yeah.
maybe have some button to convert current rewards to some 'newer' or alternative versions of them if available.

[rotund lotus]

We don't discount keyboards

[wooden bluff]

i guess i meant other things with that order, but doesn't really matter for case. i only lack the travel case.

[winter cedar]

Not this again. Lets change the topic. Got a new Product idea for you guys: HETwo 😄 ) or TowHE (get the Pun? )

Full gasket mount southpaw 100% 8KHz 🙂

[vast dagger]

I can get behind this if there was a two HE refresh a southpaw option would be neat, even cooler if it was configurable

[wooden bluff]

no, like this

[lucid trout]

Ewww southpaw

[sinful plover]

if a keyboard would wear pants, how would it do it

[teal basalt]

Does anyone know how much the 60HE v2 will cost vs the 80HE?

[timber nimbus]

Pricing will depend on the option you pick. We haven’t announced official pricing but we did recently put out content videos on YouTube giving a rough idea

there will be a lower priced plastic option and a metal case option

[teal basalt]

I heard it would be slightly over $200 cuz the 80HE was plastic right?

[timber nimbus]

people giving pricing are just saying random things, and that was before we announced a plastic option

as calder explained, the original idea was we wanted the make the v2 full metal as main stock option without raising costs much, but the coating stuff raised costs, which is why we're introducing a plastic option now to give a more lower price alternative to metal case

the tl;dr is there will be a lower priced plastic option similar to how to do 60he right now, and a slightly pricier (but not too crazy an increase) metal case option

[teal basalt]

do you guys know the weight of the v2?

[timber nimbus]

hrm lemme go weigh mine

maybe 1kg or so, it's not as heavy and dense as a weighted case, but it's heavier than a plastic case of course

for example the optimum case is heavier for sure

[teal basalt]

is that one aluminum

[timber nimbus]

yeah

personally i prefer it and use it with my v2 over the stock case

but that's just aesthetics

[teal basalt]

will the plastic case version be available the same time as the aluminum?

[timber nimbus]

no idea yet. We haven't announced exact details on things

[teal basalt]

how does the loyalty discount work? anyone who has bought a wooting keyboard can get a discount on the v2? what percent off?

[timber nimbus]

it's usually not on keyboard itself but other pieces

[wheat wadi]

will there be seperate plastic/metal cases purchaseable?

[timber nimbus]

that i have no idea, you'll have to ask calder

[sinful plover]

60he v2 will also be compatible with like

A whole lot of third party cases

[timber nimbus]

yeah it's still compatible with all the usual suspects like 3rd party or optimum or alumaze

[wheat wadi]

alright thanks!

[wheat wadi]

suspects

[oblique pendant]

can't wait to see 60hev2 plastic case

[timber nimbus]

there are some nice things added to the 60he v2 for quality of life too. Like there are now built in rubber bumpers under the pcb so it friction fits nicely without the pcb being able to be pushed further down

[oblique pendant]

fak that, I wanna see the 60hev2 plastic case. Will it copy 80he's rubber feet???

[timber nimbus]

i mean under the actual pcb not the case lol

kind of like built in standoff protectors

i still use the standoff covers in my optimum but it's nice that the rubber bumpers are there for protection too

[teal basalt]

So you can't get a discount on the v2?

[timber nimbus]

No idea. You’ll have to ask Calder next time he streams if the loyalty discount will apply to v2 module/pre built or just add ons like switches and cases

[rotund lotus]

We don't discount keyboards

[grim glen]

i think the only discount we ever did was uwu for its first year anniversary.

[rotund lotus]

Then when that ended we just reduced the price to that anyway

[opaque depot]

got em again

[low glen]

I feel like I remember something about a discount on the pcb if you own the v1, is that true?

[vast dagger]

No discount for the module or keyboard itself

[teal basalt]

What are the perks for pre-ordering the 60HE V2?

[rotund lotus]

Haven't been announced yet

Though a special discord role is a pretty safe bet, which is obviously the most valuable perk possible

[raw herald]

Can I get the BG service + auto profile switching as a preorder bonus? 🙏

[rotund lotus]

That thing that was supposed to ship with 80HE?

[rotund lotus]

Good news is that it's at least 80% of the way there. Bad news is that with development, the first 80% of the work takes 80% of the time and the last 20% of the work also takes 80% of the time

[raw herald]

Let the Yanks help! 🤚

[hardy wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-namek-mad-angry-kakarot-gif-4697742235674074957

[lucid trout]

Well wonder how much of switch selector is done.

[teal basalt]

are there any other prebuilt, hall effect, 60%, 8khz, and split spacebar keyboards on the market or is wooting the only brand doing this?

[inner tartan]

Wooting is the only one with a 4yrs warranty and best of class software/updates/features.

[teal basalt]

yeah crazy

[teal basalt]

I just wish Fortnite allowed it on LAN. It had something to do with scripts which was the reason

[spring stirrup]

What scripts? Strange, Apex Pro is allowed, which has on-board macros.

Also as far as I know Epic’s never said anything about banning Wooting keyboards at LAN tournaments.

[tardy flame]

i think its something to do with the double movement and controller inputs atleast from what i have heard

[spring stirrup]

Double movement is implemented in the game.

Most used keyboards by Fortnite players

[teal basalt]

it's been banned from 2022-2024 LANs though

[teal basalt]

the top 4 is probably apex pro mini and top 5 is apex pro tkl 2019

[vast dagger]

I swear this is a myth that just keeps on being perpetuated by people

Doesn't make any sense to be the most popular keyboard used by pros and also not allowed at LAN

[teal basalt]

Someone said that pros said it had more easy to detect macros on Wooting

[teal basalt]

because its fully allowed online

Try to find a clip or any video of someone using a Wooting on the Fortnite LANs and you wouldnt be able to find it

[vast dagger]

Well if true it doesn't make a lot of sense to be banned

Especially since Wooting is actually more restrictive when it comes to on board macros in comparison to Steelseries and Razer

[spring stirrup]

I feel like someone spread misinformation, and now everyone just believes it lol

[vast dagger]

I mean he's also not wrong I can't find a single clip of a fortnite LAN event using a Wooting keyboard

[spring stirrup]

If it’s really banned, then it’s nonsense

[teal basalt]

https://www.twitch.tv/oliverog/clip/TrappedSpeedyAubergineRuleFive-AixznrwAKoCIKju1

Thats really the main difference the Apex Pro has. it doesnt have the controller input

there was a Pro-Am tourney on LAN and they allowed the guy who won to use a joystick on LAN so that confuses me

https://www.twitch.tv/oliverog/clip/PlausibleInspiringPancakeTakeNRG-uf7aFmGBCueXa5gr

[tropic relic]

HM66 for the prebuilts and quite a few for non-prebuilts, like the RAKKA H60 and H64, and the SayoDevice K66.

[tropic relic]

Fn allows mixed inputs, so if it is true what this guy says, then the tournament rules went against those of Fn, which doesn’t happen often in any competitive play afaik.

It’s pretty ridiculous.

[teal basalt]

None of those have a split spacebar

[tropic relic]

I wouldn’t have mentioned them if they didn’t brother.

[hearty breach]

look at it properly bro

[teal basalt]

Is wooting making a TMR keyboard ?

[timber nimbus]

Not currently. We are monitoring TMR technology, but it hasn't shown any real world performance benefits currently

[slim mural]

likely because the potential is there, but the MCU scanning, sensitivity, and efficiency are also not quite there yet

that's just my guess tho

for TMR to really have the edge over HE for now

[undone tide]

I thought it’s already better in those regards?

[slim mural]

MCUs are getting better but i don't think the best one TODAY going into a kb would be able to take advantage of TMR to where it would beat HE every time

at least I think

[undone tide]

Ahhh I see. I’ve seen a few testing videos but not many of the big big names testing it. Seems it’s so negligible it’s hard to justify for now but should be on the radar certainly for them

[slim mural]

yeah

and ghe overall power demand is the same, so while it can be more efficient, it's not there yet

I remember Calder talking about this HE vs TMR a while ago somewhere in discord

[timber nimbus]

it's not. They just put specs from the sensor maker that claim ability to do things, but the tmr sensors don't actually do those things in keyboards yet

it's kind of like if I give you a car with a speedometer that says 200mph, but the technology to make the car go 200mph isn't actually installed on your car yet

[undone tide]

https://youtu.be/ESdu3D9R2xs?si=fSxFypEq4pJGvk_P this was the video I watched a while back that was what I was thinking of.

I won’t be leaving wooting though for a different tmr board creator because even if it does perform “better” it would be impossible to discern and I would expect if it becomes tangibly better, then eventually it’d be adopted by wooting. The community, customer support, software, and transparency of wooting has me locked

[timber nimbus]

yeah that video is wrong in regards to tmr. We left on comment on it from one of the founders explaining it a bit

tl;dr is all the youtubers just copy paste marketing material for tmr and don't really understand how it relates to keyboard implementation

[undone tide]

I was about to say I’d like to see this validated by other testing setups too, because it felt a bit sus

[timber nimbus]

one thing you'll find interesting is there are HE pcbs (not even talking about our own) that beat TMR boards in performance

to give an example not from ourselves, the geon venom crushes TMR boards in a lot of tests and it's 'just' a HE board

[undone tide]

Interesting. I need to do a deeper dive into it certainly

I am just pumped for the v2

[ripe quiver]

will the fr4 plate released with the v2 be available for standalone purchase?

[timber nimbus]

no plans for that as far as I know

[slim mural]

same, this place is a blessing

[ripe quiver]

thats unfortunate, fingers crossed for the future then

[spring stirrup]

Get it on AliExpress

[ripe quiver]

the fr4 plate? i was just curious actually, i have a hype fr4 plate

[spring stirrup]

Yes, there are many 60HE compatible plates on Ali

https://aliexpress.com/item/1005006050178592.html

[timber nimbus]

for v2 i assume it'll appear a bit after we launch, like the v1 plates

they usually scan them and start selling them pretty quick. The 80he plates were on there really fast

[brave robin]

Does the v2 manufacturing proccess take like way longer because you have 2 pcbs (split space bar/ normal) and 2 cases ?

Or will the total amount of keyboards be the same but split evenly (or not evenly) across the 2 pcbs ?

[sinful plover]

i dont think itll take that much longer considering that 80he had 3 pcb configurations

and v2 will use 80he technology so those kinks will be ironed out

[brave robin]

oh you mean ansi iso and jis. Well in that case, at least according to 60HE layout, we will have 4 pcbs no ? Split anso, split iso, normal anso normal iso

[sinful plover]

yep

i assume that there will be less of the split and less of iso as well

since people usually go for the thing they are most familiar with

[brave robin]

yeah they probably have the data from 60he and 80he to give them a good estimate

for sure not probably *

[sinful plover]

those ratios will probably also be adjusted over time depending on sales

[timber nimbus]

We intend for delivery to be a lot shorter after preorders

[sinful plover]

but yeah, wooting did also mention that they will open preorders closer to release than previously

[brave robin]

but after manufacturing is finished ? But I guess you could pump out some more if demand is high for specific pcb

[sinful plover]

if one sells out, orders after that will go to batch 2

[brave robin]

yeah thats most likely the case

Another question, due to the new Lekker Tikken switches being closed bottom but still having 4mm range, is there any risk of the magnet making contact with the plastic on the bottom if you fully press the switch ? I am guessing no knowing the quality of wooting keyboards but ehh who knows

[timber nimbus]

we've adjusted the switches to not have any issues with full press

[deft quiver]

When the keyboard case is 3x more than the price of the keyboard

[grim glen]

well as described on the page we didnt make the case but owlab did.

[deft quiver]

Not blaming you, just funny

[last horizon]

What's some good lighting profiles i can use

[craggy basin]

I took a few months off of checking the discord to see when the Owlab case would be offered in the US. Came in today, shocked to find it was offered as of yesterday.

Sorry sweet daughter; you will get student loans and like it.

[raw herald]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-strange-doctor-strange-stephen-strange-benedict-cumberbatch-marvel-gif-16219945

We are firmly in Q4

[proven burrow]

november/december apparently

[raw herald]

Months are merely condensation in the bucket of time

[slim mural]

i don't think september is Q4, I'm pretty sure Q4 is october, november, december

[fathom stream]

Yeah, it's Q3 still.

[raw herald]

You're right, hype cancelled

classic off-by-one error

[late bison]

bro i want a wooting so bad but its still not q4

also free shipping in canada would be extremely cool

[slim mural]

SAME

I want that split spacebar man

[late bison]

i want the normal one, i would lowkey but the he+ but the new layers making better acoustics got me hooked

[candid solar]

Would be sweet

[whole oak]

That'll be difficult since we ship to Canada from Europe.

[slim mural]

hi gang

[hardy wadi]

one day brudda one day

[late bison]

[slim mural]

I love you guys so much haha

[true cobalt]

release NOW

[teal basalt]

Will the split spacebar be the same price as the full spacebar v2?

[rotund lotus]

Yes

[hearty breach]

will the wooting 60 v2 last until my grandkids live their life?

[brave robin]

When it comes to the friction pad, won't it become loose and lose friction the more you remove it and put it back again ?

[timber nimbus]

It’s silicone so it’s quite resilient

Unless you’re literally removing it and changing it 20 times every single day you’re very unlikely to run into that issue

[brave robin]

Makes sense.

Could you maybe discuss when will the embargo for the reviews is going to end ? Not specific date (obviously) but like when the deliveries happen or when the pre-orders open etc

I don't personally care to be honest though, I just want more content from the v2

[timber nimbus]

that's not under my section so I don't know myself, but reviews are not coming out anytime soon

[sinful plover]

I‘d assume reviews are probably going to be around the time the thing ships

But there are a lot of impressions out there from a bunch of people that have tried it in person at events

[brave robin]

yeah I guess so

How did you get the 80HE but only 77.5% badge btw?

[sinful plover]

Also the reviews will probably just be "its the 60HE but better" so nothing crazy

[spring stirrup]

Founders campaign role

[sinful plover]

80he founder campaign

[slate mulch]

Pre orders are probably gonna start in October?

[whole oak]

Last livestream confirmed not October.

[slate mulch]

So November probably

[opaque depot]

that's not what was said

[lucid trout]

@slate mulch Preorders would be closer to november so you could have it on Christmas

[candid solar]

I find it very unlikely they will be shipping before 2026

Iirc they said they'd likely start shipping early February no?

[true cobalt]

😭

[timber nimbus]

We’ve never said anything about February shipping, not sure where you heard that from

There’ll be an update for timeline stuff not in the coming update but the next one most likely

[lucid trout]

Literally those are words from erik

[true cobalt]

i would get split spacebar if i could mirror the spacebar to have the section on the right bigger

and the section on the left smaller

[candid solar]

Seen it get mentioned by someone with a purple name, wasnt anything set in stone. Just generally said they would probably ship January/early Feb

[candid solar]

Im going solid space bar

Split space dont really work for how I habe my thumb for space bar

[true cobalt]

same, because i use the keyboard with the right hand while gaming

left handed church?

[candid solar]

I do not, my thumb just extends far onto my space bar

[true cobalt]

ic

[timber nimbus]

You might be confusing messages for certain things because even wooting staff didn’t have a firm timeline for quite a long time unless they were confused themselves

[candid solar]

Im left handed but keyboard just ain't built for thst and I dont wanna relearn 11 years of kbm just to use my dominant hand

[timber nimbus]

So can’t be sharing something that didn’t exist

[candid solar]

They mightve just been giving a very rough and safe estimate

[true cobalt]

fair enough, its very annoying to make stuff work for left handed tbh

[timber nimbus]

I’d hold off on making guesses for now because we have plans to make a proper update video on the timeline for v2 as the next update video (after the one that’s coming out soon)

[candid solar]

Yeah I dont wanna deal with keybinds + relearning all my motor memory on left hand for aiming

Although in tbe long run I might aim better with left I dont wanna take the months to do it

[candid solar]

👀

[true cobalt]

fair

[candid solar]

My wallet is not ready

But I am

[true cobalt]

and you need an ambi mouse

[candid solar]

Yeah and there isnt any ambis that dont suck ass (imo)

I could use left handed on non ambi fine

But i do like using my side buttons

[true cobalt]

theres a logitech lightweight one with removable buttons on both sides

[candid solar]

Logitech 🤢

[true cobalt]

https://www.logitechg.com/en-us/shop/p/pro-2-lightspeed.910-007290

this one if you're wondering

[true cobalt]

[candid solar]

Im a big ol logi hater

[oblique pendant]

can always get a 3rd job in the meantime

[candid solar]

There's just so much shit im trying to buy in the timespan it comes out

Basically fully upgrading pc, motorcycle, car parts, 60v2 😭

[true cobalt]

fair enough

just not many options lol

[candid solar]

Yeah thats part of why I likely won't ever swap

Right handed keyboard is still like 90% of it

[true cobalt]

60% and full works fine for it

80% gives some trouble though

[oblique pendant]

holy sheeto

[candid solar]

Id probably use ijkl

[true cobalt]

i use okl;

[candid solar]

Yeah spending another 400$ on a keyboard isnt gonna help

Maybe more for the new alu case

[oblique pendant]

which means *$500

[candid solar]

Im canadian so maybe 600😭

[slim mural]

left handed mouse?

[slim mural]

i feel that too, canadian as well

[true cobalt]

Mhm

[slim mural]

what mouse are you using btw

[true cobalt]

razer naga for somethings, logitech g pro 2 ambi for fps games

its ambi but you can take out the buttons for right handers

[slim mural]

Ah I see

I really wish for all symmetrical mice there would be M6 and M7 buttons and then a RHS or LHS toggle which mirrors the controls

[silk jewel]

@oblique pendant wait brudda it's confirmed 500 usd?

Cuz that's 694 cad$ without taxes 💀 💀

[true cobalt]

theres a confirmed price?

[silk jewel]

@true cobalt idk brother but i saw in the chats he said it was around 500 usd

Still waiting for him to confirm me

[timber nimbus]

there's zero confirmed pricing

[oblique pendant]

Nope, just sillying around

[true cobalt]

me when misinformation

[silk jewel]

Ohhh nice man thx cuz 500 for a keyboard is insane in my opinion

[sinful plover]

yeah insanely low

itll be like 800 probably

[grim glen]

cold

[sinful plover]

Ok so that must mean it‘s closer to 1000

[silk jewel]

Yo quick question if any of yall know, isn't the wooting v2 technically worse than the old version

Cuz it says it's a .4mm and the old one is .1mm

Or am I reading some wrong

[spring stirrup]

Both have 0.1mm. Dunno where you read that.

[sinful plover]

you are definitely reading something wrong

[silk jewel]

Ohh thx

I saw something abt 4 millimeters or something on like that abt the wootin 2

[spring stirrup]

60HE v2 Lekker Tikken switches have 4mm travel distance, same as 60HE+ stock switches.

[true cobalt]

13k final offer

[silk jewel]

ohhh thats what i saw thx man appreciate it

[spring stirrup]

Sir, this is 60HE v2 channel. Ask this question somewhere else.

[hardy wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/sir-sir-sir-give-me-that-get-me-that-pervert-gif-20490657

[candid solar]

I was just joking about spending that much for another one(also was talking in CAD)

[slim mural]

700 CAD then

[silk jewel]

I mean there is no price that's confirmed but brudda spending 500 cad for a keyboard

Is kinda crazy imo

[spring stirrup]

Yeah, you have to spend at least 1000.

[candid solar]

My 60he cost me around 800 cad including shipping and stuff

[slim mural]

$2k

[true cobalt]

keyboard should be more expensive than pc

[slim mural]

me: more than 5k CAD

[hardy wadi]

its one of those keyboards you will be holding onto a while and very easy to mod which extends the life of the board

one of the very reasons why wooting is good and dont forget their 4 year warranty

[dull lagoon]

hi, when is the wooting60he v2 comeing?

answerd in the FAQ mb.. btw whats Q4?

October 1 to December 31

means the last quater of the year

is the Q system also the stupid american measuring system like yeard and gallons?

[whole oak]

It's a business thing. You divide the year up into four quarters.

Also it's more like November/December as of last update

[silk jewel]

Bro I did the procedure just to know the full price with shipping and taxes but it wasn't that expensive

[candid solar]

Mines fully modded

With import fees + shipping everything was a little over 800cad

[earnest marsh]

We are very much not an american company by the way

[short hare]

Quarters of something is now an american thing, youve heard it here first

[peak prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/clawmerican-american-eagle-claude-clawmark-claude-gif-17143454680010838254

[hardy wadi]

any news on tikken release date?

[hardy wadi]

🥀

[vast dagger]

[short hare]

same with the v2 :)

[grim glen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br23ADZyBCQ

also good for CNC lovers

[brave robin]

Does this mean that mass production for the case is starting now ?

[opaque depot]

no

[proven burrow]

this needs to be pinned, or go down in some hall of fame comment

"Good for CNC Lovers"

[true cobalt]

its so hot

[candid solar]

Oh my....

Thats a Tony quote of all time

[true cobalt]

cant wait for wooting 60hev2 case vs gallium

[loud wren]

Wen

[spring stirrup]

November/December

[stiff pumice]

I want to buy the v2 at release but I'm scared that it will have technical problems and bugs like with the start of HE80
Will It be different this time or still take some time before everything is reported and fixed?

[whole oak]

What problems?

[stiff pumice]

I saw For some people the USB bugged out and stuff then they reported it to get it fixed

[whole oak]

Those have mostly been recent issues, not on launch though.

No product is perfect. Every issue we encounter is analyzed and attempts are made to ensure they aren't repeated. Beyond that no one can guarantee a completely issue free product.

[stiff pumice]

Will the chance of experiencing any issues be less with the HE80 considering it's been out for a while now?

[sinful plover]

its an update to 60he with technology used in 80he

it should have less issues than either considering most of the stuff has been ironed out and accounted for by now

[timber nimbus]

Just to give more info, the 80he stuff is to do with how usb treats power settings for 8k polling high power usage

its not something unique to the 80he basically, but any 8k interface running the same hardware would run into that too. So its unlikely that specific thing would crop up again

As wizard said that particular problem with usb high power devices is known now and should be less of a concern with our software

[stiff pumice]

I'm still picking between he 80he and v2 because v2 has an aluminum case which I really like but the 80he has gasket mount

[timber nimbus]

The gasket mount is very stiff just fyi and more for isolation than bounce

[stiff pumice]

I never really tried it
So it's hard to say if I will like it if it feels different

[timber nimbus]

I mean more that I wouldn’t separate the two based on gasket or no gasket because the gasket doesn’t really bounce

If anything the friction fit bounces as much as the gasket

[stiff pumice]

Doesn't it feel different when pressing in the keys

[timber nimbus]

Not really because this is a HE gasket mount, meaning stiff and less flex

You can’t have super bouncy gasket feel on a HE keyboard otherwise it won’t work at 0.1 actuation for example

80he gasket is very stiff throughout

[sinful plover]

just pick based on layout

[stiff pumice]

Oh thank you that's good to know

[sinful plover]

if you prefer having arrow keys and/or f row then go for 80

if you dont need them then 60 is better

[stiff pumice]

I'm not sure because I don't really need arrow keys and F keys can be remapped right

[sinful plover]

you can use fn for all of it

[stiff pumice]

From what I learned the v2 is just a he80 with a different layout pretty much
So I will just go with the v2

[sinful plover]

i prefer 80he layout due to some of the keys being present

[rare karma]

Sizes makes all the difference 😆. I have an 80HE but I will also buy the new 60 v2 “On The Go”

[stiff pumice]

do we know if the V2 arrives in early or late Q4?
2-3 months is a lot

[whole oak]

November/December is the current estimate.

[tepid copper]

Honestly, when most companies say “Q4” (or any other quarter) it’s usually like the last week of it xD it’s rare to see otherwise

[rare karma]

Do people constantly nagging on chef’s at restaurants!

”Just let them cook” 🧑‍🍳 👨‍🍳 🧑‍🍳

[rotund lotus]

It's more the case that when companies give vague time estimates like "Q4" that there are a great many steps to continue, any number of which may take longer or shorter than expected

[rare karma]

Ofc, not everyone can be Apple. Doing product launches like freaking clockworks 😌

[brave robin]

If you delay the product on purpose you could make your launch perfect. But if you want to get it out as fast as possible while still mainting good quality then yeah, its not gonna be like a clockwork

[candid solar]

Helps when each new product you release isnt much different

The call of duty of smart phones

[rare karma]

All the EA sports game world fall into that category.

You can dislike Apple all day. The fact is still clear. They have not delayed a hardware launch for their core product. iPhones MacBook for a decade and people are buying into the slow pace of “ refinement “. All the major players in each category does this. Rolex watches, Porsche 911, Tesla’s, cameras etc.

[peak prairie]

One day we will get the v2

[rare karma]

That is a fact. 😌

[peak prairie]

[rare karma]

If you can’t wait, just buy something else. No amount of wishing and complaining can change the outcome in this discord.

[peak prairie]

I sold my 60he

So

[rare karma]

Smart 😌

[peak prairie]

I’m on hyperx 7yr old keeb till this comes out

And it’s hurting my soul

[rare karma]

You’ve made your sacrifice, the reward will surely feel good when you get the V2

[peak prairie]

Hope so

[candid solar]

Okay so in other words its exactly what I said

They barely change fuck all and release it like clockwork

[stiff pumice]

Isn't that just the v2

It's the 60he but with 80he technology

[candid solar]

Its got a few more bits to make it sound better and feel better when typing

Otherwise the point of the v2 is to bring it up to 80he standards tech wise

[stiff pumice]

I heard that the v2 feels better than the 80 when typing
I guess that's something

[rare karma]

I use my phone for production use - video and livestream ( B cams) I would say we’re making good progress.

But yeah, I get your point. How fast do you need to open Excel?Office people doesn’t really benefit much from generational upgrades in PC hardware. Yet we gamers can never have enough power for running our games.

[rare karma]

Where’s that meme when you need it “ All preference “

[stiff pumice]

Didn't they start using aluminum instead of titanium for the phones to save money

[rare karma]

Both yes and no. The new phone is made of CNC aluminum for better heat transfer. If they did it with Titanium. It would cost more, take longer time and you get worse heat transfer. Frankly I don’t know why manufacturers went titanium in the first place. ?

[stiff pumice]

My phone is made out of hopes and dreams
I don't know enough to answer this

[rare karma]

Then it’s for the best for you to not question the lord all mighty marketing

[stiff pumice]

Im very easily tricked):

[rare karma]

Ignorance is a bliss - quote from the Matrix

[stiff pumice]

Would titanium work for a case

[rare karma]

There’re all kinds of exotic materials for phone cases since the first iPhone came out. Sadly they won’t protect your phone from drops 😅

[stiff pumice]

I meant for keyboards

Oh there are actually titanium keyboards

[rare karma]

It’s the same, ofc it works 😆. If money wasn’t an issue. CNC a case out of Titanium is expensive 😅

There’re titanium keycaps too 😆

You live in 2025. Only your bank account is the limit of what you can do with a keyboard

[candid solar]

Tungsten case >>>

[late bison]

surely q4 means oct 1st

only so much patience i can have

[raw herald]

Not only that, but Oct 1 delivery date. Also, the rapture happened a few days ago.

[brave robin]

lets just hope it doesn't mean december 31st

[rare karma]

Not sure why you want it in Tungsten other than for the memes 😆

I can already use my 80HE as a defense weapon if needed

[late bison]

that would be VERY tragic

[true cobalt]

you clearly have never felt the power of a cube of tungsten

imagine a keyboard

[rare karma]

I have.. but to my point.. I don’t really see the need of it. Just like how certain speakers have sand in it. Other have heavy weight feet on them.

If anything, industry is adapting more on printed titanium instead of CNC it. But it’s still very expensive when producing something like a keyboard case.

[true cobalt]

its not about need

its about desire

[onyx sapphire]

imagine a bus stop

[iron pond]

Looking at the V2 and it doesn't seem to have screw in stabs?

[spring stirrup]

It does.

[iron pond]

OK ty

[whole oak]

60HE Module has screw in already as well, and the 60HE+ supports but doesn't come with them.

[rare karma]

Go make it happen! You have my full support!

[tropic relic]

😃👍

[oblique pendant]

YEAHH

[unborn sandal]

the hype is real

[soft sentinel]

We need 2.75u, 1.25u, and a 2.25u keys pack. For modules, who already have keycap sets.

[timber nimbus]

I’d imagine the price difference for just a 3 key set vs a full keycap set is very small as we don’t really charge much for our keycaps sets

[soft sentinel]

But already have full pbt set, optimum set. There I can get keycaps for a 60hev2 split and with same visual as stock and optimum style?

It is part of previous product support. Or will be updated keycaps set especially for 60hev2? Optimum also.

[timber nimbus]

I believe we’re updating optimum keycap set with split keys too

And the stock keycap sets are being updated too

[soft sentinel]

And is updated stock keycaps set will be available at launch, with module order configuration?

[timber nimbus]

Yeah I think that’s the plan, will have to check on the exact timeline

Off my rough memory I think the one that isn’t being updated is the old wave keycaps

[soft sentinel]

Thx! Will wait. Because plan get the module. Alumaze case, Optimum case already got it.

[rotund lotus]

Orders in the configurator with a split spacebar will be presented only keycap sets which are compatible, which will include the black and white PBT keycaps for all languages

[stiff pumice]

So does the v2 have better switches than the 80he?

[timber nimbus]

Stock switches yea, it comes with the tikkens stock

[short hare]

you can also get the tikkens and put them on your 80he

[stiff pumice]

Considering that my main game is geometry dash and I only spam 1 button
None of this probably matters for me anyway

[slim mural]

that would be awesome to see

[tropic relic]

should be included in the module’s box imo

[whole oak]

Waste of keycaps for most people. If you want a module, you either have keycaps from elsewhere, or you're buying a set with them.

[tropic relic]

there are multiple things in the box that already won’t be or can’t be used by most people

I don’t think it’s much about whether most would use them but rather how much of a hassle it’d be for some to get.

that goes for the already included (but optional) things as well

[whole oak]

Yes. So let's not add more of them.

[tropic relic]

https://tenor.com/view/gaming-cat-gif-23528583

[earnest marsh]

ironically ive never had a 60HE+ module but my 80HE module literally only contained the module and the postcard lol

[tropic relic]

you got scammed two different pairs of case feet, a two in one keycap and switch puller, a cable and case foam.

[tropic relic]

this is the reason why iPhones (and most other phones atp) don’t include a charger anymore

[whole oak]

And thank the gods for that.

[earnest marsh]

I'm pretty sure those came with the case not the module

[vast dagger]

Yep, was different with 80HE since the case was mandatory

https://youtu.be/ZynueEc7khM

[whole oak]

Accessories are colour matched to the case. So didn't make much sense to include them with anything but.

[tropic relic]

did you actually get the module alone and used a 3rd party case right away or something?

or caseless?

[earnest marsh]

My 80he experience may have been a bit different to how most people receive the product fair enough

[soft sentinel]

I buy module because I already have 2 of your cases. Not because want other keycaps.

I think a lot of people also in this situation.

60he has plastic case by default

Now it is metal. Will be.

[whole oak]

Plastic or Metal, yes. The solution still isn't to produce additional waste where it isn't necessary. Much better to offer a kit for those few in need.

[soft sentinel]

May be add 3/6 keycaps (for optimum / pbt sets) to 60he v2 box, think not so expensive.

[hardy wadi]

too many split users in this chat

https://tenor.com/view/looking-around-confused-dazed-and-gif-13717135

[short cosmos]

indeed

[hardy wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-fight-gif-20220033

[tropic relic]

99.99% of split roles have never used split before

OGs the only real ones here

[hardy wadi]

the 00.01%

[tropic relic]

wooting employees, tenz, and me

[late bison]

WHERE

[spring stirrup]

https://wooting.io/wooting-60he-v2

[late bison]

ty

[late bison]

is pricing going to come out before the campaign or with it?

[hardy wadi]

[cursive shale]

can someone tell me whats the advantage of split spacebar?

[oblique pendant]

more keys for your thumb (like 2 more) when gaming

maybe better sound because there's no 1 key that's substantially different

and when typing, each thumb has a key it can press that can do different thing.

[cursive shale]

ohh

thanks

[oblique pendant]

if you pair it up with wooting knob, you can also have a knob in the middle your thumb can fiddle with while not impede on muscle memory too much (assuming you don't press the middle of the spacebar while typing.

and that opens up more uses

actually, since i don't even use the bottom left key (left ctrl), I could put a knob there and my pinky+thumb will have its own knob

[cursive shale]

Im a console player and just build my first PC a few years ago, honestly im pretty handicapped on typing lol

I think the og space bar will be perfect for me

[opaque depot]

are you the only person in the world using right ctrl

[oblique pendant]

Im using my capslock as lctrl

[candid solar]

Id go split if my thumb didnt rest right where it splits

Would annoy the hell out of me to move thumb more left

[slim mural]

geometry dasher here too

[slim mural]

i can my thumbs way more

and if you like to do emulation, this might be a game changer

I can see it ngl

btw does the split spacebar area have a total of 3 RGB LEDs? or 5 like the regular spacebar

[vast lion]

3

[rotund lotus]

Huh I didn't even consider that would be different

[slate mulch]

What do we predict the price is gonna be

[rotund lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-evil-one-billion-dollars-haha-money-gif-16679435

[bleak hamlet]

200 bucks

Or the more fashionable 199.99

[oblique pendant]

at least 1 dollar

[slim mural]

It kinda makes sense given the light from the diode needs to shine through the 2x spacebars and the middle button, nevertheless I figured I would ask since I have no idea what the split module looks like

[north cape]

249

[slender plank]

209.99

[hardy wadi]

2099

https://tenor.com/view/miguel-o'hara-spiderman-2099-gif-2499297711314894089

[true cobalt]

that would make me the second

im left handed and i use okl; instead of wasd

[stiff pumice]

What why can't u use wasd 🤔

U are already using your left hand for both

[true cobalt]

bud wat i use a left handed mouse... my right hand works the keeb

[stiff pumice]

I'm left handed and I never had a problem using the mouse with my right hand
Guess it's just preference

[true cobalt]

i aim better with left

[rancid wolf]

I guess the 60heV2 won't have bluetooth support?

[vast dagger]

It will not no

[rancid wolf]

very sad D:

[teal basalt]

will the v2 be able to do higher RT sensitivity or is that overkill? i feel like it could be faster since theres other keyboards that can do down to 0.01mm RT sens.

[rotund lotus]

None of those <0.1mm rapid trigger boards actually do so at the start or end of keypress, consistently and without false/missed inputs.

Additionally, the practical difference between 0.1mm rapid trigger and 0.001mm rapid trigger is the time it takes to press (or release) the key 0.009mm, which is effectively 0.

We prioritize stability and consistency over "smaller number is more better" style marketing claims.

[autumn token]

When will v2 release?

Can we order it on wooting website on November 6th?

[timber nimbus]

founder's campaign starts november yeah, delivery will be later

[autumn token]

What is founder's campaign

[timber nimbus]

means you get to buy into the first batch(es) with some perks basically

[lucid trout]

Cant wait for piss colour 60hev2 role

[stiff pumice]

they should make a different colored edition just for people who pre ordered

[rare karma]

Will we have Silver church ⛪️ ?

[timber nimbus]

i'm in the optimum church right now, but i do like the v2 silver out of all the stock options

[rare karma]

Let’s wait for the official launch for some better photos before deciding then 😌

[zealous phoenix]

will v1 custom plates still work on v2?

[whole oak]

Split won't of course.

But aside from that the PCB hasn't changed, just the components.

[slim mural]

I'm looking forward to aftermarket plates for the 60HE v2 split spacebar!

[hardy wadi]

wheres the stream where they talk about the white alu 60v2 case

i wanna watch it

[cursive shale]

just waiting for the module, ive been having the ow60 case in my storage for like 3 months

[hushed lantern]

same, just gonna use all the old stuff from my 60hev1 build, jst dk how the friction fit thing will go

[hardy wadi]

you didnt hear?

[cursive shale]

Hear what

[quaint schooner]

[thorny pond]

Hey #🤩│wooting60hev2 can’t wait to do may first keyboard mod with you. Guys look at what just arrived form KBDfans. Had to pay 60€ extra for Customs taxes 🥲

234,66€ + 58,46€ (Customs taxes) = 293,12€ total

[sinful plover]

Good stuff

[thorny pond]

Cant wait 😭

[sinful plover]

I have a wilba.tech salvation case and some gmk keycaps ready to go as well

[thorny pond]

Uiiiii, nice

[slim mural]

New Holy60 box is starting to grow on me, I got 2 of the Holy60s in the old Black/orange sleeve cutout box

I like the iridescent finish on it

which color are you using?

[thorny pond]

I got the dark grey, the picture on the website where confusing me, cs they don’t fit to the actual colour. But it looks so great.
Also your right, box looks insanely special. It has like a holo effect wich looks to good to hide it.

[slim mural]

yeee

[thorny pond]

I am curious what wooting is doing with there box. I remember my first Wooting (60he) had a postcard in it.

[unborn sandal]

black holy60 with these caps gpnna be so hot

[slim mural]

what is this set

[unborn sandal]

Just one I found on AliExpress but looks good quality

[unborn sandal]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007662671082.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.pcDetailBottomMoreOtherSeller.16.29afqcViqcVil3&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreOtherSeller&scm=1007.40196.439370.0&scm_id=1007.40196.439370.0&scm-url=1007.40196.439370.0&pvid=fe91ede1-206d-435d-8d77-042e03ac334d&_t=gps-id:pcDetailBottomMoreOtherSeller,scm-url:1007.40196.439370.0,pvid:fe91ede1-206d-435d-8d77-042e03ac334d,tpp_buckets:668%232846%238112%231997&pdp_ext_f={"order"%3A"131"%2C"eval"%3A"1"%2C"sceneId"%3A"30050"%2C"fromPage"%3A"recommend"}&pdp_npi=6%40dis!AUD!12.74!12.29!!!8.24!7.95!%402103205217602626494081754e5eda!12000041701268592!rec!AU!!ABX!1!0!n_tag%3A-29910%3Bd%3A1729d9a2%3Bm03_new_user%3A-29895&utparam-url=scene%3ApcDetailBottomMoreOtherSeller|query_from%3A|x_object_id%3A1005007662671082|_p_origin_prod%3A

[slim mural]

nice

[spring stirrup]

What a link Please delete everything after .html

[slim mural]

yeah idk why these links have to be so long

[oblique pendant]

to track you

[slim mural]

yeah probably

[wary field]

60hev2 as a Christmas treat possible or not really?

[whole oak]

Find out on the 6th of November. That's when pre-orders begin.

[wary field]

Acknowledged, thanks

[proven burrow]

same idea

[wary field]

I wanna put it in the ow60

but...

I also wanna take split

so I wouldn't be able to make use of that fancy carbon plate

[proven burrow]

i’m still 50/50 on split or og

i wanna try split, and i have my old 60 so there’s somewhat of a comparison

[wary field]

I really want split, not even considering the long bar

[spring stirrup]

v2 split third-party plates will be available soon after the release probably

[wary field]

yeah I bet, but I wonder if they'll be up to the standard of the base ow60 plate

besides, you guys think it'd be a big deal to do friction on the ow60 as opposed to plate mount when going with 60v2?

[stiff pumice]

i wish there was a way to get 1 mini spacebar in the middle instead of split

[timber nimbus]

it's honestly basically 1:1 if you don't mind using fr4 instead of cf plate

cf plate from 3rd party should be perfectly fine to friction fit in also

those keyboardfun shop guys are pretty quick with selling the plates after they scan it after release

[wary field]

hmm, well then... maybe it is ow60 afterall :]

[ripe quiver]

will preorders be open to usa customers also? and what will be the process with tariffs?

[whole oak]

Yes of course. The process will be that... US prices reflect the costs we have for importing keyboards into the US to our warehouse there.

[teal basalt]

where does it say its nov 6

[sinful plover]

on the web site

[whole oak]

On the 60HEv2 product page to be exact.

[grim glen]

6he gang

[slim shale]

right when my car insurance renews

[echo shard]

Any idea if the module will be launched alongside the prebuilt?

[grim glen]

it will

[teal basalt]

Waiting for Wooting 60TMR v3

[grim glen]

better start writing it into your will that your next generations also wait

[rare karma]

It’s like complaining about the need to buy food to feed one self. By getting rid of your car. You can use that money towards a lot of other things 😅.

With that said, I see you got a MX5. I feel you bro.

[slim shale]

Oh i complain about food prices too, and the go-kart stays

[rare karma]

Then there’s none but one solution- Work harder not smarter 😆

[slim shale]

[slim mural]

6% board

[teal basalt]

Are we going to be able to pre-order the plastic version as well?

[spring stirrup]

Yes

[slim mural]

oh wow i wonder what they will look like!

ghost60 and frost60 would be epic

[wild tangle]

I'm considering the 60HEv2 for a few reasons. 1.) My 80HE has that zinc coating issue that Calder made vids about (just saw them today), where sweat or something is removing the coating. I was/am one of those few people, lol. 2.) Lighter case is better I think (just easier to clean, assemble and manage overall). 3.) Split spacebar is intriguing, kinda want to try it.

Anyone here try any split-spacebar setup and like it more than regular? For gaming/productivity? Also, I'm going to miss my Function row...and Amazon doesn't sell a function row keypad (surprised about that). But I can get used to it because I'm not playing RTS games atm, lol.

[sinful plover]

you can always use function key to access the function row if you dont use it too often

[wild tangle]

yep, what I was thinking. Anyone know if the dimensions of V2 are same as V1? Guessing so.

[sinful plover]

yeah, but the split will obviously use different plate etc to support that layout

but any 60he compatible case will also with with the v2

[wild tangle]

ya np. I'm coming from an 80HE. The other big concern I'm thinking about is the missing arrow keys...maybe I use sep keypad for that.

The shorter length overall of the keyboard means I can center the keyboard more for potentially better typing.

or i just remap the bottom right keys to arrows.

[sinful plover]

i'm gonna be honest

[dusty sundial]

Arrowkeys issue fixed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0hyYm0j0NA

[sinful plover]

i'll keep maining the 80he and use the 60hev2 for travel

[wild tangle]

ya I tried mod tap a while ago. Maybe a year, it wasn't working so great, but I think they added some updates to it.

[wild tangle]

ya this was the issue I was having many months ago then I made a thread about it on the wooting forums and then there was an update.

ya here it is: https://github.com/WootingKb/wootility-issues/issues/309#issuecomment-2991533796 - Seems it could still be an issue according to the last May 26th post.

I'd have to test it again, but I'll prob just do it once I get the 60HE anyway.

Tested the length compared to my 80HE, and the 60HE does feel a lot better, close to mousepad, more centered typing when taking my hand off mouse. 😄

Does anyone know if there's a thinner case than the Wooting ones? For the 60HE(and V2). So I can reduce the length even more?

[rotund lotus]

Thinner as in width from left to right? Maybe a few millimeters but not by much

[wild tangle]

yep, left to right. Yeah, if it's just a few mm, no biggie.

[rotund lotus]

The Alumaze is wider by that metric than other cases because of the accent piece, but the standard plastic case for the 60HE+ or the metal case for the 60HEv2 are pretty similar

With the 60HEv2 you can choose to not have the strap attachment, that could save a few millimeters

[wild tangle]

ya strap is on left side, so prob wouldn't matter. I guess for lefties. heh

yeah, does seem that the 60HE/v2 is thinner on the sides than the 80HE (but that might be only metal cases). Only slightly, but good to know.

[tropic relic]

It’s removable.

Oh Mark already said that

You can attach the strap buckle to the right as well.

If you use your mouse with your left and want a strap 🤷‍♂️

[rotund lotus]

Or if you need two straps, for reasons

[wild tangle]

excited about the 60HEv2 then bois!

[rotund lotus]

A little birdie told me that there would be 60HEv2 news in mere minutes

[oblique pendant]

ooo

[slender plank]

announces a delay

[oblique pendant]

"Sorry, there's a lot of strike currently."

[rotund lotus]

I thought it was scheduled to go live at 15:00, apparently not

[lyric coral]

Do we know if we are getting a new case for the 60 or no plans yet? The 80 case is so much nicer atm

[spring stirrup]

New Alu case, yeah. Bright silver and black color options.

Prebuilt only black, silver will be available separately with the module only.

[lyric coral]

I meant storage case not actual case on the keyboard

Travel case i think is what its called on their site

[spring stirrup]

Oh, you meant the travel case... That I don't know.

[true cobalt]

😌

[slim mural]

2 questions, do you have any PBTFans sets with a split 60HE v2? if so, do the PBTFans 2.75u and 2.25u spacebars align properly with the 2u stabs?

[rotund lotus]

I don't, no

[slim mural]

Ah just figured I'd ask

well in that case I'll keep you guys posted since I have like 3 sets

[rotund lotus]

The sizes of the split space bars are the same as left and right shift

[slim mural]

yeah i was just concerned about the stem alignment is all

I'll just compare when I get home

[tropic relic]

There’s nothing proprietary about woot’s split when it comes to compatibility. Any 2.75, 1.25 and 2.25 keycaps will work. KBD offers those but mostly in childkits, so if you don’t have childkits, you might not have them.

[slim mural]

I mean for example if you see the spacebar kit, I am guessing the stems for the 2.75u and 2.25u bars are centered 2u stabs

i have XRAY and Crosshair sb kit

[tropic relic]

Yeah.

[wild tangle]

I think the issue is getting the convex shape actual spacebar keycaps for the splits. Same size as LShift and RShift is fine, but you'd want the actual spacebar keycaps which I'm not sure how easy is to get. Either way, I'm getting it from Wooting so all good.

Does anyone know if the PCB is better/upgraded over 80HE? Like faster/less hiccups in tachyon mode? Guessing it's the same.

Every once in a while, I still get a ghost press in Tachyon mode in 80HE. Very rarely though.

[tropic relic]

Yeah only the 1.25u convex spacebar is somewhat hard to find, the others are common.

No upgrades over the 80HE, so still the RGB effects for 8KHz tradeoff. Not sure about the ghost presses though, haven’t encountered that on the 80HE personally.

[spring stirrup]

That sounds like an issue on your end, like a bad port/cable or something. 80HE Tachyon mode is very stable.

[wild tangle]

Ya I don't know for sure, because when I first got the 80HE, the ghosting was a lot worse and then went slowly away over time with firmware/software updates. Was gone for a long time, then once in a while, like maybe once a week even I was getting it. Strange, idk. Could be some voltage spike triggering it from the CPU, who knows. But it's nothing like release date experience.

[tropic relic]

Plastic for $180, not bad

https://youtu.be/yPW4Gie3dfA

$180 - 240

Plastic case has wings

😃👍

[oblique pendant]

march 2026.

[tropic relic]

🥀

[oblique pendant]

it's fine

actually aligned with the part where I have spare fund for a keeb

[tropic relic]

Does us have taxes

[whole oak]

Yes?

[stiff pumice]

i hoped for aluminium to be $200-220

[tropic relic]

State sales tax?

never heard of that even lol

[tropic relic]

Without keycaps, maybe

[stiff pumice]

thats so overpriced😭

[timber nimbus]

The wing looks quite nice actually

Nice accent piece if you just want something there on the plain case

[tropic relic]

I’m imagining a spoiler that spans the width of the board itself

https://tenor.com/view/spoiler-alert-spoiler-go-time-gif-13921804794138892823

[whole oak]

City, State, Others.

The US is full of taxes.

[tropic relic]

why doesn’t it show on the store

us store*

[whole oak]

It does.

[tropic relic]

on the eu store you get the breakdown

[stiff pumice]

i forgot to translate it to euros
its gonna be like €200 for me

[whole oak]

You also do in the US.

[tropic relic]

fucking where? 😭😭

wtf

[timber nimbus]

Oh there’s no tikken link in description of that video, I should add that

[whole oak]

Same as usual.

[tropic relic]

Lies.

Or is it after address?

😭

[whole oak]

Of course it is? 😛

[tropic relic]

I filled it out for neither tbf

[whole oak]

I just checked a parking lot in Pittsburg. 16 bucks in PA state taxes 😄

[whole oak]

EU taxes are generally national wide. There are exceptions but those are rare. Mostly weird colony locations. Maldives, Canary islands etc..

And sometimes you pay taxes you shouldn't there - Because Shopify isn't a perfect system. So we have to manually refund those taxes as needed.

[tropic relic]

So are states in the US surely?

Idk how you got taxes to show

Nvm

[whole oak]

There you go 😄

[tropic relic]

So taxes in the US aren’t statewide?

Cause even with the state it wouldn’t show taxes

with the state and city

[whole oak]

It depends. Some cities have taxes, some areas IN cities have taxes, some states have taxes.

I think I saw an order at one point which had four different taxes. Most were like a dollar, or some enviromental thing or ..road tax? and then there were the sales tax stuff

[tropic relic]

LOL

[rotund lotus]

State, city, county, etc

I know of one US order that had SEVEN different taxies applied

Heh taxies.. whoops

[proven burrow]

$240 excl taxes is the aluminum?

[rotund lotus]

For just $150,000 I will hand deliver any Wooting keyboard (including unreleased models like the 60HEv2) to any location accessible by public roads.

[candid solar]

Yes

[proven burrow]

we will be buying

[teal basalt]

will there be a new wrist rest that attaches?

[short cosmos]

Put velcro on it

[teal basalt]

i got an email of this. is this one wider?

or is it the same one

[short cosmos]

[teal basalt]

🥺 March

[short cosmos]

Just get the module and replace it if u have the original 60he

The pcb is the same size

[teal basalt]

yeah but you dont get the poron sandwich, fr4 plate, pet film, bottom case dampening, and the case without the strap holder right?

[short cosmos]

Idk

[slender plank]

u do

for some of them

[spring stirrup]

Poron sandwich pad will be included with the module, in case you decide to replace the stock friction fit pad.

FR4 plate, PET film, tape mod will be also preinstalled.

[teal basalt]

what do you get from the prebuilt plastic v2 other than the case then?

[late bison]

$410 cad for me 💀

[stiff pumice]

i mixed up $ with € for a second and had a heart attack😭

[late bison]

lmao

[spring stirrup]

Sound dampening

[late bison]

its like ~$340 cad + tax + shipping

which is so expensive 😭

idk if i wanna get one now

[stiff pumice]

its gonna be my first wooting

[weak wolf]

How much will the Wooting 60HE v2 cost?

To euros

bro 486 euros?

wtf

[spring stirrup]

Prebuilt plastic

[rare karma]

It’s not too late to add this in the founders campaign?

[stiff pumice]

is that just plastic or does that also count in for aluminium

[spring stirrup]

Plastic

[stiff pumice]

damn the aluminium case is gonna cost nearly as much as the 80he zinc casing

[spring stirrup]

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx4_Qce4dc3I_j2oS_wrAH9q6t249TK4u7?si=fGeADejcjyMtbaQC

[rare karma]

Is that a problem?

[dark pumice]

I actually dont know if I should wait for the wooting 60he v2

I just want to get a new keyboard right now and its the wooting 60he

[rotund lotus]

The 60HE+ is an incredible keyboard, performance wise. The v2 is barely any improvement on that aspect.

The v2 is all about sound, feel, and overall experience. You could simply mod the 60HE+ to your preference and achieve the same thing

[dark pumice]

Thanks for clarifying. So is the wooting 60he loud or nah?

[rotund lotus]

Not especially loud

Not quiet though

[dark pumice]

Alright. Im prob gonna be buying the keyboard tomorrow

Whats the deliver time for me living in Norway

[slender plank]

Checkout will tell u

[dark pumice]

ok, whats the diffrence between these 2? I dont really know that much about keycaps

[slender plank]

u know all the letters, words and symbols on ur keycaps?

they bottom one doesnt have any

its just blank

[dark pumice]

No symbols on the letters?

[slender plank]

just nothing

[dark pumice]

then Im getting the one above lmao