#🌟│wooting80he
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does the "Wooting Detachable USB-C Coiled/Straight Cable Set" give any extra improvement ?
no
Need that atomic purple
Nope, it's just coiled 
thx
I liked the plastic version a lot
the alloy is really heavy
and the clicking of the plastic case is satisfying
i might end up ordering just the plastic case sometime if i find the zinc to be too heavy, but for now im happy with it
oh i actualöy don't like thfounder addon.. wich i could trade it in for jade switches cheaper 😛
it will end in my drawer unused - sad
sounds like a you problem
Sell em I'm sure someone with a 60he would like to upgrade from the v1s
good point^^
I already have a 60he so suits me already 
Will it cost extra or included with the price of the 80he
I think it'll be separate from the whole 80HE campaign
Fair enough so like an add on you could buy if you want it
Sure, and most likely it'll be compatible with all HE keyboards
Interesting 
in the end it could simply be a custom keycap with a screw wich activates the halleffect sensor from top to down or a build in sensor connected through the pcb hotswap
Is the price after the founding campaign lower, the same or higher?
Probably the same, but you wont get the free switches
what does knob in the works mean, I love knobs
thanks for information
Are you going to do UwU knob version
Of course 
More info soon 
Can you tell me. Why people are addicted to knobs
Idk if I should buy the 80he or not now 
someone please ask how 80he gonna smell XDXDXD
useful, convenient and stylish
Knobs project is separate from 80HE campaign, so if you want TKLish keyboard, get one now 
No idea, I don't like them at all on keyboards
if u have enough money and doesn't mind 4 months waiting for your keyboard then yes
oh so a whole new keyboard ?
I hate knobs because of 75% keyboards
More of a knob add-on than new keyboard
that's really good to know
It would be addon to all he keyboards where you replace one switch for knob
oh ok thanks that helps
True, both 65 and 75 look... weird... Like squished together just to make keys fit 
Yea I don’t like the cramped look either
I also hate 75% exploded
It is not symetric

when i got the 60he i already knew i wanted a 80% but i got it anyway bc i liked the 60 more than the full sized so i saw they had an 80% i had to get it bc the wooting keyboards are just perfect and now they come in the perfect size too
Yeah, that one is even worse, that weird vertical cluster of nav keys and, of course, a knob 
I was willing to get rid of the numpad because I barely use it, but personally I use function row arrows and nav cluster on a daily basis, so 80he really is perfect for me
exactly function keys are too vital to give up so that’s why i had to get the 80he upgrade from my 60he even though they offer great work arounds it still takes too much time than having a button already there
Yea hard to beat dedicated keys
sorry for the probably dumb question, but what else would I need to buy to fully assemble this? I was thinking foam+stabilizers but this is my first build. Thank you!
Apart from a screwdriver that's everything you need 
oh really? i didnt know it came with everything. Thank you!! @tight cypress
is it not supposed to show the free switch pack with this order? hm
@pseudo parrot it does, i just cropped it out
oh cool
sorry for the confusion hah
no worries i just wanted to make sure 
They will fix that
ok, just confirming so that i dont end up being charged for the extra
Don't worry about that, everything will be verified and corrected
thx fam, orderin it rn
yo apart from the 80he being tkl will it have any differences with the 60he? like diferent switches or materials or will it be just the format?
thx btw does it matter if i use the usb c to usb a does it affect performance?
Wouldnt matter
80he looking like the king of gaming keyboards high-key
Razer and Corsair really need to reevaluate themselves
logitech especially
We can have longer cables to the 80HE?
80he lookin real good
Logitech is trying its best 
Hey, give them credit, many years ago the once made a mouse that inspired everyone else to put them in their place and that mouse still ranks amongst the top 5
The g pro super light is imo the mouse to beat
If you're not at least as good as the super light don't even bother
facts
There is no way that companies like Logitech or Razer will reach the quality of Wooting, nor will they match the level of technical innovation. Just imagine if they really tried xD The 'average' Razer/Logitech consumer would never buy a keyboard for so 'much' money. Their customers simply won't see/recognize these features in the price.
I'm just glad that Wooting exists ❤️
I wouldn't say so
Im a convert, always had razer keyboards until now
Razer's most expensive garbage costs more then a preassembled 80he
i would state quite the opposite when those companys want to they can kick nutz custom keyboards are already in decline because of high quality builds from razer and co
from a technological stand point and economical, they absolutely can deliver products of the same caliber
but their brands are build different than Wooting
wooting has something going right now but if its not protected they will take it
I hope wooting continues to innovate like they do now, just saying you have x feature which the competition doesn’t have over and over won’t get you very far lol
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lol
80he seems to be an actual endgame, hard to add something anymore
but we never know
It seems like a great board but there can definitely be improvements over time
More knobs, full knob board and itll be truly the king of knobs
If they make a duck, itll be the first one to go that route
we have mansen already 
Can never go wrong with more
what keycaps does the prebuilt come with?
ansi pbt iso nothing by default
double shot?
yea
thanks
no problem
whats better case ghost or black
Zinc white
Its all about preference, go with what you like more
Zinc black + ghost
no case
3rd party cases will be better
logitech is posting 5 times everyday about their new kb smh
like its not from 2016 and its something special
i have bad news for you
people think because of the name LOJiTIk its the best
Are you able to switch from white zinc alloy pre-built to ghost after the campaign ends? I just want a whiteish one but we still haven't got a sound sample and there is no purely white plastic case 😤
Yes for a while still.
ooh iu thought from alloy to plastic was a no
white plastic gang 
At this point I think we have to allow people a chance to change things - Because we haven't provided samples for everything. But that's above my paygrade.
They said they’d be looking into it but weren’t sure about crossing between plastic and zinc cases being as feasible in the ui
Yep :/
Logitech really made a optical keyboard in the new bandwagon era of HE switches 😂
What was Logitech thinking? The Wooting is just better and cheaper.
they where a bit behind but you guys need to admit THIS would be a big deal for the HE80
actually wooting could still hafe this and just pull this out on the end of the campaign like "OH BY THE WAY" haha
we will have volume knob on 80he :)
what knob? who said that?
its in the works
maybe but i highly doubt it looks like intedet more like a stuck on thing honestly but hey i would be happy to be wrong
and what if i dont like knobs on keyboards?
calder said that

knob is an optional addon so no worries
I think you can just swap out it with the normal switch, dont panic lol
@pseudo parrot connecting via usb c? how it can be optional? any info?
uh dont think theres any info but my guessis it just pops like a switch would
No info, but my guess is that there will be separate switch for a knob and you can swap one of the keys on kb with it
No i hate that scroll wheel knob. Give me a real knob or dont.
i actually really love it it looks very well thought through and does the trick
I dont like all these pretend fancy unique knobs keyboards do, just give me a classic rotary knob.
fine control on them is rough. I personally think they look bad.
knob looks cool on a keyboard, i doubt i will use it but i like it.
The one on my razor, it decreases the volume as it is increasing it. Hate that design, it's just flawed.
touchpad under the led bar for the wooting would do the trick for me but i know it isn't but yeah some interactive shit would justify that bar more its just sooo prominent
I expect the fine control to be good since this is hall effect
It would be cool but why
More point of failure for the keyboard, rather we not have a touchpad. That is just scope creep.
yea
But I'm the kind of guy who would buy an LED free keyboard, so don't listen to me lol.
that's not a argument its more like a justification i mean you cand make much mistakes and wooting proved they are smart enugh to not screw it up that much trust i hafe 😛
its not worth it so they didnt do it
I’m curious why do you want a touchpad on the board
adjusting sound without long holding 2 functionkeys could be as good as a knob and even give some extras
That is fair for smaller boards
trillion is crazy
yea
That's what happens when you make a product people actually care for instead of marketing shit to Brain rot consoomers
80HE will be the Apex Pro TKL killer no dought, the 60HE is already the fastest in the world. The 80HE will be faster..
But who wins in a drag race
Wooting hands down
The 80he is faster but the 60he is lighter.
Better quality, value and price to performance ratio
60HE probably wins in a drag race lol, the 80HE is taking shots at the Apex Pro TKL and I love to see it.
The cheapest 60he setup being around 200 makes it about the same price as the competition but already comes pre modded so to say
And the 80he looks like it's aiming to please the keyboard enthusiast community as well
Apex Pro Mini is probably the 60HEs most direct competitor, but a 60HE starting at 175 beats it outright
I love that Wooting encourages modding of their keyboards.
Polycarbonate plate, pcb mount stabs, gasket mount, silicone dampening
The plastic case is probably a lot more popular cause of it's price, but I can easily see the zinc selling large numbers to the enthusiast scene
I'm coming from the most braindead side of the consoomers, I was all in on razer, and I opted to treat myself to nothing but the best
PCB mount?
I'm all Razer currently, I like their mice but hate the software and keyboards I've descovered.
At this point I got headphones, a xlr mic and a g pro super light
Logitech is taking shots lately.
The keyboard is the last bit of razer garbage I still need to throw out

via slotting into a switch slot
With PCB-mount there's two different versions Screw-in and Clip-in
Blackwidow V4 75% and Orochi v2 are really really good and razer trys toemulate rapid trigger with thair opticals (not as good as wooting by a long shoot but yeah..) its not all bad quite the oposit
lamzu 
hey guys did you get an error while pre-orderin Wooting 80 HE
it says "Your payment couldn’t be processed because your order total has changed. Check your order total and try again."
I started with the og black widow chroma, I've had every one except the newest v4
They weren't ever terrible, but now having used some custom keyboards I see how poor value they are
Wooting knocked it out the ballpark
If I had a touch more money I might even get a two he for work
lamzu here is as expensive as razor 100€ plus
High-key for that price there's no better choice then a g pro super light
Gpx 2
Is there any substantial upgrade from a superlight when it comes to gaming mice?
The old one with micro USB goes for less then 100 and while it's far from the best it's also the golden standard to match which most competition is significantly more expensive
Still too expensive rn imo
Logitech so good, even two replacement mice didn't fix their scroll wheels clogging up.
No, that's why it's still the best pic for around 100€ imo
I have the gpx 1 current and the left click button feels mushy after like 8months and I’m thinking of upgrading now
Just get a replacement pcb from AliExpress
A lot of anger went on the mouse so I’m not complaining
Much cheaper, and you can pick whatever switches you want
Like the buttons itself
Yes
exact same situation
The entire PCB can be replaced easily
just got the 80he, no idea how to make an account lol
I don’t wanna take it apart
pcb being replaced is ok but this shouldn't happent to begin with imo
just create an account using the mail you used to orderhttps://hub.wooting.io/auth/create-account
Access and edit your orders, connect your discord, and manage your Wooting account.
I'm using this one, tho I replaced the encoder with a kailh red
Gpx 2 can be found in my country for 169 which is the same price I got for my gpx1
I paid 105 for my super light
Not usd
Fully modded I was only around 180
i upgraded from the gpx 1 to the beastx, night and day diff for me
I paid €
Yea mine is sgd
i had it for 2 years before that
If your gpx still works aside from the switches just replace the pcb and get some nice tiger ice skates while you're at it
I want the exact same shape
It's greatest weakness is the shitty stock omron switches
I don’t want to take it apart tho
So your alternative is to just let it sit around broken and replace it?
lol i see
Kinda dumb imo, it's really easy to open up and swap the pcb
Yuh
some ppl just dont wanna do allat
if you have the money then why not its not economical but its easy ig
Bet, hmu, I'll buy it off you for broken Pricing
Because the newer gpx2 comes with optical switchs
I've tried them and they feel worse then the stock gpx1 switches
Boardzy says they feel about the same once u break it in abit
That's some real low IQ consoomers behavior
i mean what else is he gonna do lol
Get a replacement pcb for a 10th the price
im trying to fit his requirements
There's no Skill involved in the repair
Because it's hella wasteful for no reason
okay does anyone know if the wooting tkl wrist rest works with the 80he, i already have a tkl for my nk87 and idk if there is a size diff
If you can undo a few screws and unplug a cable you got all the skill needed for the repair
we blu now
real
No more watersports🥲
😳
does anybody know what is this?
You literally missed the only one worth buying.. It checked all the boxes even for hobbyists
I'd rather not spend another 250€ on some razer trash that forces me to install synapse
Check with your payment provider
thanks dude
based
so real
i was hesitating to buy the 80he and now i'm in batch 2 😭


Still founder though 
How you know that you in batch 2 ?
shouldve bought yesterday 
i'm in eu brug, not eu kampionen which was batch 1
what does the only got the 77.5% mean
80he founder role
Where were you from last 30 days ?
is it like a inside joke that i dont get
Just a meme
yes
like the 80he is slightly smaller than a standard 80%?
because 80he is not 80% but 77.5%
idk i was hesitating
if i preordered the 80he yesterday i wouldve gotten it around mid july right ?
what batch are u in
EU-brug
bad news bro
i just had to leave it till last second like my hw 😹
Till 20k founders its batch 1
unlucky
batch 2 is only like a month later right
probably more
says mid august now
Est delivery?
yeah
maybe even less (cope)
The first batch is 98.715% sold out, with some layouts/versions being already fully sold
Second batch delivers 1 month after 1st batch
rip me and rere
only JIS is remaining on batch 1
gonna buy now before its too too late
you guys can wait 1 more month ..
no i need it now 
^^
oh i already bought mine lol
Now is no one getting
are both ends of the cable it comes with usb-c?
keyboard
None
its the same basically
Realistically 1k to 8k is no different either
It'll feel exactly the same aside from placebo
Placebo can go a long way
monitor hz is def not placebo tho even tho people say it is past a certain point
Yeah but it just becomes negligible
but thats not really the same
if anyone were to tell my that the G810 worion spark was a 1.5ms board they would be dead wrong its more like 8ms
Yeah with polling rates the difference is literally fractions of a millisecond
1ms to 0.125ms
Monitors biggest differences in hz is motion clarity (past 240/360hz)

Which is very noticeable
120hz oled != 120 hz IPS hz is not all
1400$ monitor💀
nah its gonna be less i'm pretty sure
what
do u reckon one day when we get like a 2k and 4k hz comparison for refresh rate we will start coming to the same conclusion as polling rates
Pretty sure that's what the price was but they could've lowered since I heard that
those 1440p 480hz without dual mode, i know the dual mode 4k / 1080 is around 1300-1400 beans
reply in accident
480hz oled is the defenition of pay to win, imagine that with a wooting..
please have DP 2.1 Support toooo
no worries
oopsie
not gonna make you a better player tho
Yes, however motion clarity is a very noticeable thing monitors have which polling rates do not
But if you are good it's absurd
No, just increases your in game advantage. If you are above avg already it would improve alot
surely at some point the difference in motion clarity would just be like negligible tho
Having good gear raises your skill ceiling
Yes indeed, we just haven't quite reached it yet like with polling rates
540 i feel like is a whole new domain for me
i have 8k mice but use it at 1k 🥸
the difference is actually insane
I have 4k mice and use 1k always
i would rather have a display pulsing at 144Hz rather than a standard 360Hz display i am not joking
i like my battery more
only noticable diff between 1k and 4k is ur battery drains twice as fast 
540hz sounds cool but its a TN 😭
what was the type of oled that could pulse on and off on the same refresh cycle without BFI, closer to proper impulsing?
i would never use any other panel after using my oled
pretty sure its WOLED, qd oled is "only" 360hz rn
Yesterday youd still be in batch 2
pro valorant is the only thing i do
when i checked it was still batch 1 tho
tn panel does the job
Weird, I got put in batch 2 even though i ordered before then lol
youre saying W OLED can pulse the display on and off in 1 refresh cycle?
damn i am 100% sure it was still kampionen when i checked yesterday
i shouldve bought day 1 anyways 
drop this guy the PG248QP
maybe i mistaked it for something else, not sure about the pulsing thing
You should. I did, but I wanted to change something so I had to cancel and reorder and I got bumped from Batch 1 to Batch 2. Kinda stupid we can't do a basic order edit ourselves without contacting support to cancel and just reorder.
because all I know is all OLEDs can only do BFI
rip to both of us
180 on and 180 off at 360Hz or 240 on and 240off at 480Hz
ive been testing out the xl2586x
making you lose half your data
i wonder how it will feel to type on the 80he, cant have that much flex or every key will just activate
you dont need DSC for 1080p 480Hz?
Just gotta use the 60he for longer
wait wdym
yup
1080p 540Hz requires DSC no?
idk man i just plug in the monitor and play the game
im running nasa specs so i guess like not really?
I have had issues with DSC thats why I was asking
what monitor you had before going 540hz
xl2566k
it should be fine, but if you want less flex you could mod the board for that
the benq zowie 360 hz one
is 540 that much better than 360?
Obv
its a noticeable difference, wouldnt say its an advantage
just feels different to use
I also had the BenQ 144Hz display it was really good, XL2430T no dyac but it still had backlight strobing that was goated
i get 600-700 in ranked on valorant
pretty sure you can reach those frames in ow r6 cs val
which gpu u use ?
but thats about it
4090 oc
Not in CS
4090 being at 10% while playing val 
i can hit 540 on cs too
Oh
valorant i swear doesnt even use ur gpu its actually a joke
val could run on my fridge
cpu and ram carried
what cpu u got? 7800x3d / 13/14900k?
i9 14900k
not ks? lame
next cheapest option? like what
are there any new photos of the clear case?
Hi
Enough for what?
Gaming
240hz enough
According to you? 
I get 600-800 in Val with a 1080ti, it’s a cpu issue not gpu
In CS I can get like 600 max prolly
Nope.. but according to stats and facts
your eyes only see 24 frames per second 
uh no
What? Link to those.
Your only need 24 frames to perceive smooth motion
Finally some fax in here.
the human eye is capable of seeing 1/500th of a second or like 2ms
You claimed it. Provide it yourself.
LMAO
did it take a bit for ur 80he order to show up in ur account? mine still isnt there
^^^^^^^
not here to prove anything to anyone.
lol
xd
Okay but everyone will discard what you say then.
Idc
yo i'm blue now
north facing leds most properly will not shine bright if that's what you want else it's all preferences
Yeah these dont work well in the wooting
They also need a high typing angle to make sense anyway imo
you could put them opposite way and putting a mirror on top ;))
Blanks are easy to find
no good with north facing
yea completely forgot about that
I mean it might not have the best shine through, but blanks have even worse shine through xd
I'm curious to see what keycaps like that would look like
because that's clean, but I am not good enough for pure blanks
still on the fence which wireless mice i should buy
the way you write there is no correct answer
mmo multiple buttons weight doesent mattershooters weight is very important buttons not so much
Wireless i use g604 (not available anymore but so much loved that ppl buy out the once sstill unused)
Orochi V2 (superlight just isn't fitting in my hand well orochi v2 is the best
What do you want one for
What kinda games/use case
i dont need one with super many buttons prefer 2 sidebuttons
if you love endless spinn there is only logitech and razer
hm wont really need that
the 2 i looked up where the viper v2 and the logitich super lightspeed
but i hate the software from both xD
I just bought a beastx mini it arrives in a few days
I've been using lamzu for a while and love them, there are quite a lot of options
small hands big hands finger palm claw 😉
honestly if you don't hafe a idee go with logitech 305 orochi v2 both are cheap and good
Both are kinda outdated
try orochi instead of superlight because of claw grip
I highly recommend lamzu Atlantis
the lamzu atlantis mini 4k?
I have both the mini 4k and og 4k(full size) love both but prefer the bigger one
do you guys have endgame op8k
Never tried it but everyone I talked to that has liked it
op1 8k is very good
im trying to get it but its out of stock
just has a wire 😱
for claw with big hands you could check out zowie mices
lamzu atlantis also very decent
got it
I hope I can claw beastx mini with 20x10 hands
Probably will look like an alien grip🤣
Tragic, I have really flexible hands so I might be able to pull something weird off
Might just need to ftip main it which I'm fine with
its my fav mice for ftip, everything feels very nice
also battery is not as garbage as i thought
is the new zowie mouse good
before i had x2v2 mini, it feels insanely fast
i'm on a kurosun ninja with obsidian dots
never tried glass, i'm sure i wouldnt like it
I can't use cloth anymore it feels so slow and muddy
😂
Glass just feels so good, even on tac fps I just can't use my artisan anymore
glass is amazing
My artisan is officially a keyboard mat
i used glass superglides for a hot minute on my artisian ninja
funny, I went from hayate otsu mid to a superglide
they were amazing at first but slowly went kinda shit
Yeah that's why glass skates are ass
i almost bought a padsmith empress tho, or even a skypad few month ago
Once the coating is gone they slow down unlike glass pads
i switched to tigerice skates
but i'll stay loyal to my kurosun 🙏
I sold my brother my skypad I accidentally bought and kept superglide glass pad
well, i wanted the smoothness of glass, but the control of the ninja
there was no "tactile" bump to get over so to speak of
there are glass control pads
how tf does that work?
different microcoating
Different texture on the glass
also, wonder how that would play with my logtiech powerplay mat
already a wonder i even got my diy mousepad setup working
Nice controller
thanks, modded series 2 elite
I'm still waiting for my custom roller
i made it myself
I ordered one from aim controllers
just a faceplate and some clicky face buttons
Mine has all the goodies
when the time comes where the pots wear out ill do a bit more and mod to HALL
Mouse click bumpers, mouse click trigger stops, HE sticks mouse click dpad/face buttons, paddles
i only use it for racing games and emulators so i didnt do that much to it
I play fps with mine as well as racing games
with mouse click triggers?
ah
When it's off it uses the regular adaptive triggers, when it's on it's a mechanical switch
ah, ps5 controller
Yeah custom PS5 roller
a bit small for my gorilla hands
I prefer regular triggers, so i always keep my stops on the regular ones
I have 20x10 hands but the size helps play claw better
I use bumpers for fps anyway
But wanted trigger stops just because I was already getting all the goodies
i got the most cursed setup for playing gta online
You should see my apex binds on my stock PS5 roller
Controller+ mouse
It's incredibly cursed
Yeah controller aiming feels fine for me so I just play roller on GTA 5
Unless I'm doing PVP which I barely ever do on that game
I switched from console to PC around 8 years ago
I switched 9 years ago but picked roller up again last year
Wasn't immediate, actually spent more time on my PS4 then my PC when I first got it
But then I got into the hobby really deep
9 years of kbm aim is nothing compared to my first month on roller it's depressing how strong aim assist is on some games
Spending way too much money, that's one aspect of it that hasn't changed😂
Low-key I can't afford the 80he, but that's what credit cards are for😅😮💨
Aim assist so strong it's got kbm players switching 
I was die hard kbm until I eventually snapped
It's got some people using software to get their kb+m identifying as a controller
Picked up roller again and after a month was aiming just as good as I did on kbm
Yeah thankfully the biggest one got blocked from the games I play
is aim assist that strong?
My little brother is disgusting for doing it
Yes
Yeah it's absurd
i'm surprised long time kbm users are swapping
I just couldn't stand it anymore, and my wrists are bad so I just picked up roller and its just so much easier
i personally hate controller with all my heart, only time i touch one is when i have to play fromsoftware games 
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This guy is cheating
Convolk is a known cheater in the cod scene, he has dick riders that say he isn't in his comments
He was outcasted from the aim training community for cheating on aim trainers too
However aim assist is still absurd
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High-key the only thing that's got me eyeing my controller outside of racing games on occasion
Kbm is much more fun and enjoyable, but far more stressful
Got out of the trades and started an office job this month, and I'm tryna not fuck my wrists anymore then I already have
Controller I can pickup even when I'm having a bad day with my wrists and still play great
On kbm if my carpal tunnel is acting up I just can't play
Like there isn't even half the effort required for roller aiming
After I got my rsi I started roller again and I just can't put it down
Helps a lot, but doesn't entirely make the isssues go away
The training wheels are so strong it's just demoralizing going against it on kbm for me
💀
glad i stopped playing this god awful game
This is a much better example
My no AA aim is much better than his he kinda sucks
Without AA I look like a bad kbm player, with AA I aim better than some of the best kbm players
It's just so confusing why they think it's necessary
I use to turn aa off in cod/halo when I played back in the Xbox 360 days
AA was different back then
Although I don't think it was as overtuned as it is now
With rotational AA like how it is now, it literally does all the work for you
Yeah nowhere near
makes no sense to have stronger aim assist today than before thats stupid
Exactly, people have better setups, wayyyyy better aim, yet they make aim assist 10x as strong
It use to throw me off and make me miss shots occasionally so I turned it off 
people are way better than before, if kbm players swap just cuz of AA it might be time for some change 
I only played kbm for 9 years straight, and after 2 years of going against roller I now main roller
That's how strong it is, I spent tens of thousands of hours on kbm, and can out aim it after a few months on roller
actually crazy
Don't get me wrong kbm has some slight advantages, but easily outweighed by aim assist
do you play controller is every fps? or just apex
Cod and apex I play roller and kbm depending on how I feel
Every other fps I still play kbm
damn even on cod
Cods is stronger than apex by 20%
wz? or mw3
Mw3
💀 i thought aim assist in cod was normal
Rotational AA uses a decimal system for strength, apex on PC has 0.4 (out of 1.0 which is 100% lock on) cod on all platforms is 0.6
Yeah cods literallt does everything for you
i play against more controller players than kbm too
Apex you at least need to aim a little bit, cods is straight up doing it all, especially with the fast ttk
Because kbm is outnumbered by like 10:1, if not more
usually i see like 4 kbm and the rest is controller
Most pc players I go against are roller
Yet the average controller player thinks kbm is overpowered 🤷
i never see pc players using controller tho, they always on kbm
controller are just console people
Opposite for me
i mean if you ask me kbm is way more powerful, you have better aim with ur arm than with ur joystick 🥸
We only have our thumbs is such a dumb argument
Buy kontrol freaks, and you can literally have more precision than the average kbm player
(if you aren't a literal ape and can actually aim)
It makes your sticks taller
Gives you more range of motion allowing for much greater precision
For 15$ you can get basically double the precision of a regular stick
Without any training or anything you just put them on and profit
I have kontrol freaks they’re nice, I don’t really play any games that take advantage of them on controller
For now I use a stock PS5 roller, but my custom PS5 roller should be done soon
Every button and trigger has mouse clicks, hall effect sticks, 4 paddles
hall effect sticks?? wtf
If you wanna see it better explained/visualized watch a review on aim controllers PS5 roller
Yeah they can't really get stick drift because you can just recalibrate them
do the stabs for the 80he come screw-in or are they plate mounted and u have to buy your own?
they are screw in
nice and are they prelubed?
Yes
i guess
awesome thanks
But hand lubed is better still
still might swap for my durock v2s yeah
problem is my set is for the 7u spacebar so id have to relube lol
Once my dielectric grease arrives I'm gonna relube my stock plate mount stabs
yeah, plate mounted especially need custom lube
Thinking of modding some Hall effects on my elite series 2 controller
Just don’t know the details like how to do it and if those even exist yet
I know you can do it but I don't know how to do it
Or what all you need
I wonder if you could adapt GuliKit's ones for Steam Deck https://www.gulikit.com/productinfo/1026071.html 
Does this answer your question?

I mean if you can adapt them to Elite 2 controller 
Ah gotcha, I can’t find many things online about it, seems I’ll have to do my own research and figure it out myself
There's a channel on YouTube that does controller repairs/he swaps try and find it they probably have links for what they use
Can't remember the name of it but I watched their vids before
Ah, GuliKit's ones are mirrored, so it'd be hard to even resolder them to Elite
Ripp
Wait, no, potentiometers and click button are aligned in the same way
So it may be possible 
I have the GuliKit King Kong Pro 2, funny name but great controller 
Ohh okay, thanks so much for the info! I’ll check it out
I think I’ve heard good things about it! I play a lot of racing games though so I need something with long triggers
Let me take a quick look I'll link it
Thanks a lot bro 🫡
This guy, he's done quite a lot of HE swaps and probably links the products used
You can also just pay him to do it I think he runs a business doing it
Idk if he does international repairs though
That’s dope, I already have a video that’s worth a watch based on what I’m looking for
Thanks so much dude!!
No problem hopefully you can find everything you need
im pretty sure the difference is u can smash opponents face harder with the zinc alloy case
💀
a real gamer move
Won't lie, I kinda hope future 80he cases have the strap. I think it's kinda cool
Yeah but think of the zinc alloy, carrying around 2kg on a strap. No wonder they included a case
The strap is an aesthetic thing. Who would unironicaly sling around their board on the strap.
we draw at noon

me, thats how i attack my opponents with my keyboard
valid
I still think the strap adds to brand recognition tbh . See the strap on streamers desks and I'm like " aye my boi got a wooting"
I just think it's cool I want the 80he to have one 
Same
So, only 10 hours left of the campaign, huh? We all got our orders in? 🙂
WAIT WHAT HAPPENED TO MY PISS YELLOW NAME COLOR?!?!?!?!
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!! 
light mode users complaining 🙄
Does anyone know how to cancel an order
just dropped $300 on this fuckin thing with the metal case, someone pls validate that I didn't throw that money in a pit like my star citizen fund
You can feel validated that the 80he will be the best gaming keyboard money can buy rn 
While also looking good and sounding good
hope you got some jades too 👀
mass production incoming
I responded to this email with a confirmation cancellation order
Is this the right thing to do
👍
yuh
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May I ask if I need to put the order on hold after I send the refund email
combining this with the ulx for both to have 8k polling will feel very nice
Wait we’re blue now?
I mean you won't feel it at all on the keyboard
But the numbers do match
true
I mean Im curious as to whether or not I'll feel a difference playing bullethells
like if my movements feel more exact or smooth
Every time I check for ulx it’s out of stock how you did you get it
Will the zinc alloy be available later? Can I change my order up until delivery or no?
I was stalking the website when the cheetah drop was happening
you gotta buy when FM makes a drop
yeah
next one is in 5 days
Kinda wack
my cheetah is nice, its super light, and I prefer smaller mice, Im coming down from a viper v2 pro, but the 4k polling atm feels super smooth
yup, also its plagued with QC issues + you wait month for it to be delivered
I’ve been hearing that, I think I’ll go with pulsar
Is the only way to get a carrying case to go for zinc?
if you want something similar to ULX go beast x ,otherwise pulsar is also solid
ulx had bad first and second batches, but batch 3 is fine
they improved the material to not flex, really the only issue one could have in the future is the coating wearing down
i mean I guess I got lucky then my model has been in use just about a week now and it feels flawless
ye def paying for name brand, I just like the battery life and weight
battery life is indeed insane, cant lie about that
i kinda wanted to buy a ulx but with all the issues + the 3 year wait i just bought a beast x
yeah WLmouse is my second go to
I believe they used magnesium to get their weight reduction
yep wlmouse is magnesium mouse
if I get the chance I'd want to try it out as well and do a comparison
only diff will be click / scroll feel, shape and weight is identical
with cheetos coming at around 34g, its the same weight as bxm
do u use cloth or glass for the pad?
i use cloth
I do too, I feel its good enough for our needs tbh
just depends on what you want lol, i just dont like glass
especially on such a light mice lol, my bxm is already super fast
cant imagine on glass ( i have cloth + ptfe feet)
the stock feet that the ulx has, can u use that on glass or would you need ptfe?
stock ulx feet is ptfe
M3K on glass with obsidian dots is the best aiming experience I’ve ever had
ok cool im just brain damaged at this hour my b
any opinion on the wallhack dots?
they are just made for glass
basically just obsidian pros, feel like absolute shit on cloth
but i heard they are pretty good for glass
how does rappy snappy work anyway?
I'm not 100% sure but I think you program 2 particular keys for rappy snappy to work. Whenever you spam those 2 keys it will detect the threshold of when those 2 keys are pressed at the same distance, then which ever key is lower than the other that key will be the one activated. This happens at whatever distance you happen to be pressing.
so how does it help in counterstrafing?
think of it like this. When you counterstrafe or jiggle a corner you press one key down, release and press other key at same time
with rappy snappy you technically just hold 2 keys down and release one. There's no need to time the release/press of the other key anymore
so its like a macro?
no, it's just a more consistent way to counterstrafe/jiggle. It will need adjustment though as not everyone is used to strafing like that
sounds super weird
think of it as 2 actions needing to be timed vs. 1 action
1 action is more consistent vs 2
eg say you mistimed the 2nd strafe key input and it was just barely late, so you actually end up stopping slightly before you begin strafing the other way
this wouldn't happen if you were strafing using rappy snappy because it's impossible for it to be late
hey got a question. i wanna go for the 80he custom with jade switches. am i able to build the keyboard completely with the delivered pieces or do i need to buy lube or any screws myself? im completely new in custom modding 😄
comes with what you need as far as putting in switches and such
if you want to hand lube then you need to buy a lube kit, but the switches are factory lubed
alright thank you 😄
Are the Jades also Factory lubed?
yeah
was wondering if ordering and assembling is enough 😄
it's pretty easy to assemble thankfully. All you'd really need is a screwdriver
expected at warehouse mid august, yesterday i said july 😦
yeah batch 1 is sold out now for most sku
so a lot of the incoming orders now will be batch 2
batch 1 is july and batch 2 is august or?
yeah 1 month difference
and what's the base usb-c cable set? isnt it detachable?
it is
just saw i can add a coiled cable set too 😄
I just ordered the 80he. When will I need to provide the name for the website order perk?
That’s for flexing/ fashion, not for performance
yeah and it looks fucking sick
If you want performance there are 200€ cables with exotic materials and dreamy descriptions from the HiFi world
what do you mean? Price is listed at the checkout
for the 80?
yeah, it says it on the page
it depends on what config you choose
similar price range to 60he though, just a tad higher
Upper limit is 2 Keyboards + 7 cases / order. ( the website will grey out the check out option when you hit the limit 😉)
😂
Listen, with usb bus power and other USB related issues a cable can actually make a difference. In the audiofool world you won't be able to hear the difference between a coat hanger and a pure silver cable
why are the dafault switches on the 60he the L60?
Why not?
and not the L45?
for gaming
One is not inherently better than the other. It's a question of personal preference
it can cause fatigue

cuz i have a bad experience with heavy switches
Then your personal preference is to use the L45s.
it's not on there 😭
You have a few hours left to buy an 80HE in the founder's campaign and get both switch options.
I can't change it
Just gotta swap them out yourself.
I meant for the 60he
Why are you asking questions about the 60HE in the 80HE channel though.
For the 60HE you'll have to order the switches and a switch puller yourself. You might be able to add it to an order if you email us (and it hasn't shipped)
you can order a pack of L45 switches and change them yourself
What do you mean? Just because you can’t hear the jitter, interference, purity of a material doesn’t mean the 1 and 0 are not worthy of getting the best possible condition to be transported from point A-B. Only you can set the value of something. Just like the coiled cable from Wooting compared to the one included.
(Which are identical in performance)


heavy switches are heavier than L60
ITS NOT TKL ITLL NEVER SELL
WHY NO 75/80%?!?!
WHAT ABOUT MY CASESWAPS
hello goodmorning to you guys
hi
L60 is actually a mid range spring weight that's a touch lower than standard cherry mx switches. People just assume L60 is heavy because they see L45 as an option
Wish there was a wooden 80he but I’ll suffer with plastic
Maybe you can get @toxic zephyr to make you one. Definitely wouldn't be cheap though. 
Because in A/B blind tests self proclaimed professionals couldn't tell the difference
I got a bad idea for y'all, custom milled depleted uranium case for those who want nothing but thr heaviest
sigh am I gonna need to buy an 80he just to see if I can make a wooden case for it 

Can I spend more money and get the 80he earlier 🤣??
earlier than it's manufactured? 
It’s almost 4 months to be delivered
Short of a time machine, I unfortunately don't believe so.
I would pay extra to get it early, August can't come any sooner :d
Morning!
Is there any difference between 2he and 60he ?? Actually i don’t think i will wait for 80he
I cant tell if this is sarcasm or not
Not too sure but I can wait for the 80HE
I waited 4 months for my ULX, and its a perfect unit
clearly very much sarcasm :p
It's worth the wait, patience :D
the most common complaint
and then stating it as authorithy, "no one will buy this"
4 months, 💀
Wut switches are they using now?
I hope for the love of all good and holy it's not some shitty Chinese omrons like every other mainstream brand
It's all relative.
Mine's Early August, you probably in 2nd batch
Mood, I can't wait for my 80he
Can't wait to finally have a keyboard that doesn't rattle like my keys
My spacebar sounds like the average VQ that boosted just a touch too high
Not much of a difference between the 1st and 2nd batches. You'll have to wait 3+ months anyway
So the difference between 2he and 60he cant be noticed right?
one's 60% the other is full keyboard with the numpad
Thanks 🤍
I'm tlk fan, so the 80he is the perfect keyboard for me :D
Never had anything less then a full sized myself so the 80 is gonna be a step in a weird direction for me
Tho maybe it'll nudge me into spending money I don't have on keyboards I don't need😂
If u want the best of the best, probably is not a waste of money in point of view :D
I never been so excited over a peripheral before
Actually anything you buy from wooting it is not waste of money they deserve it opposite the performance and quality😉
You got that right haha
and because wooting kbs are moddable
literally the only thing that matters is the module, the case just holds it
I think wooting is the future of the keyboards
hmm speaking of which, how's the wooting (gonna be) for actual typing-? im a conplete noob and mostly just interested in a nice keyboard to type articles with (like with LaTeX) haha-
i have low profile keycaps atm so my keyboard is literally just a rhythm game controller, BUT it is nice to type on
iirc there was an official video from wooting on youtube demonstrating the sound of lekker switches (the switches that come with wooting kbs)
like any other linear switch, if you like it, you like it, and if you don't, you don't
I did make many comparisons and i see “Wooting” is winning all the time
also if you're doing *TeX, you can just add macros for, say, \cdot
True
oh huh you can do that?- whoa
I think it will be good for typing, you won't have any problem with a wooting keyboard, they even come factory lubed
hello! can I ask, is the 80 bigger than the 60?
wootomation is cool, yea
well obviously?
no it's actually 10% smaller /sarcasm
bcs I had someone say to me that they are the same
I came from a G502 Hero of 7 years lol
finally no more \begin{align} ... \end{align} hell? :o
is this person perhaps blind?
i mean.. if you can remember the macro keybinds, then sure
lmaooo
otherwise I don't understand how they come to this conclusion
but then again autohotkey already makes this possible
wow i forgot this wasn't #💬│general
Understandable, I went from a g703 to a super light 1
:D
Logi needs to make a g703 super light
currently on a superlight 2
right
I use OG GPW -> GPX -> Viper v2 pro. Took logitech long enough to use optical switched
GPX and viper v2 pro user here,
@verbal solar
hello
xm1r shape enjoyer tho
they are saying the 80 is bigger than the 60
erm ackschually it's a mini TKL with a size of 77.5% 🤓
what
77.5% is crazy
chatgpt never lies
77HE sounds cleaner
lmao

In b4 69,420HE
includes all keys, including super, hyper, ultra, giga, plus ultra, and "unplug computer"
And is wireless 
ngl 80 in keyboard size layout terms just sounds weird
cuz it's like full size > tkl> 75> 65> 60
75HE is too bland, 77HE gives it some flair
Will we ever get the elusive any key tho?🤔
includes all keys
did i stutter?
lockpicking lawyer
actually a really funny april fool's joke would be making a drum-type keyboard called the 9001HE
Every Keyboard layout combined into one
iirc google did it with chinese characters ages ago, but an actual keyboard with all the keys would be funny.. probably hell to make though, even just for a single one
do people even use the razer keyboards with the dpads?
those things look hella weird
prob a asia thing, seen alot of them at pc cafes
My little brother has one
those things are like a keyboard for one hand with a dpad and scroll wheel
It has more dust on it then his collection of other ADHD driven hobbies
i feel like it's awkward to use
cuz you still need a keyboard
cuz the only keys it has is movement keys and other combat binds, + space bar
razer is dying on the hill tho
Razer won't ever die
optical analog
Too many gaymurr RGB cucks
like only HE adopter is steel series for big brand
Ive seen some people here swear by those razer gaming keypads
Don't get me wrong, I'm one of those RGB losers too who spent money on making my PC perform worse
So i guess there‘s s market?
But some people go way too far with it
razer is dying on optical analog, cuz it's inhouse design
Logi is going there too
