#🌟│wooting80he

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quaint seal
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Thanks for the info again, I will think about it tomorrow and make decision in the next few days :)

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Yep, for sure

teal robin
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I'm excited for mine, i went with the full white zinc since I've been readapting my room to be brighter colors and less rgb/black plus i orginally wanted a 80% keyboard but i went with the 60% because thats all wooting had

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🙂

low token
quaint seal
quaint seal
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okay awesome :)

low token
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@quaint seal so wait 1-4 months after delivery of 80he and there will be propably 1 or 2 third party case

verbal solar
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can't wait for my flexing perks

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alongside thousands of people sad

vernal fulcrum
foggy pilot
hearty sky
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I wish wooting added a white colour varient in plastic one

jolly tangle
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youre not alone

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maybe in the future just like the alumaze

pseudo parrot
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Nice, I hope so

hearty sky
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but have to buy again ..

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if black exist.. white must be there.. it attracts more customers as well.

digital portal
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different color options in the future like the alumaze would make sense, might just take a bit - maybe we can get some official response from the group on this. I would definitely buy a purple alumaze case for the 80HE.

fierce lance
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.

tiny tartan
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canceled my wooting 80 he to buy the new logitech keyboard mm

tiny tartan
cobalt inlet
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yeah i was gonna say🤣

tiny tartan
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expensive af too

cobalt inlet
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yeah the tkl is like 200$

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wooting better

tiny tartan
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i like how there is always a comment that says "buy wooting instead" lol

cobalt inlet
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🤣🤣

lime aspen
tiny tartan
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true lol

cobalt inlet
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logitech are goated when it comes to mice tho

idle sage
hard vale
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gave up on them and switched razer viper v2 pro and have no issues and it has 8khz

cobalt inlet
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never had any issues with mine

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and i love the shape/feel/size of it

coral marlin
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Hello chat

forest pollen
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Used logitech for years. Can't go with anything else.

frank pebble
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what do I do

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😭

acoustic jasper
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game changing

cursive lily
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4-5 Razer mouse broke within like 1year but my g502 last me 2 and a half

hard vale
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depends which razer mouse u bought

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i had a viper mini and its scroll wheel was bad

unkempt field
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19958 orders now, so close to 20k

cursive lily
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Logitech is good for mouse

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I am using Razer keyboard rn and it’s the optical reds but sometimes the keys don’t even register

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But I have to deal with it until Aug

jade widget
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There are more brands than logitech and razer head_bob

icy cosmos
# cursive lily 4-5 Razer mouse broke within like 1year but my g502 last me 2 and a half

If you’re in EU you should have 2 years warranty. So you should be able to change to a new mouse/ keyboard if they should die on you. But I failed to understand why you keep buying from a brand that keeps failing on you? I have only had great experiences with logitech warranty service. That’s why I and many corporations still buying loads of their products.

icy cosmos
cursive lily
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gave up after those mice broke

icy cosmos
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Logitech got 2 years-5 years ( extended) so you can always judge a products quality by the level of warranty a company is willing to cover

acoustic jasper
nocturne valley
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really hope they release some new cases for the 80he after the launch, wanna make my keyboard pretty

sage wing
sage wing
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And then the manufacturer can add more to it if he wants, just got a replacement for my MSI motherboard

sage wing
icy cosmos
nocturne valley
sage wing
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But I responded to the guy who said "not in eu"

icy cosmos
nocturne valley
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that or just like a purple case or pink case with some keycaps to match, idk, i just think it looks really nice when the case matches the keys

icy cosmos
sage wing
icy cosmos
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It’s just like car modifications. The manufacturers can only do so much. But if something is widely accepted. It becomes a standard

sage wing
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They already have custom keycaps (only ANSI) and some cases, cable, wrist rest

wary abyss
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I would buy that shit so fast if the copper inside is actually thick and it doesn't just have a thick sleeve

icy cosmos
# sage wing They already have custom keycaps (only ANSI) and some cases, cable, wrist rest

You realise that 90% of the keyboard community is modding their keyboards with colourful keycaps and exotic materials. Just because you’re satisfied with the options from Wooting doesn’t mean the community. Wooting on the other hand can’t keep on making more options if they doesn’t sell. So we need a way to keep making stuff that people want to buy right

sage wing
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All my gamer friends who own a nice keyboard don't give a shit about modding of some sort, I'm the only one who will have a different case than the base keyboard the brand was selling

tight cypress
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I'd say maybe 20% when it come to keycaps and maybe... 2% when it comes to anything else? Think
And that's in keyboard communities

sage wing
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Either I must go to the lottery right now or the 90% isn't really accurate

icy cosmos
nocturne valley
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Yeah those are gamers that's not the keyboard community

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Like what nice keyboards are ur friends buying

sage wing
sage wing
icy cosmos
sage wing
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If the keyboard community is only those doing tape mods and self lubing switches, well you will be surprised to know that 100% of these people would be interested modding (because they are the modding community) I think there is a misunderstanding of what a community is. It's not only the extremes, like the ones modding. Simply liking it makes you part of it

sage wing
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They just want a nice keyboard stock, instead of buying a bare keyboard that will be good afterwards

icy cosmos
sage wing
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Well yes?

icy cosmos
nocturne valley
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If u buy a car ur not part of the "car community"

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Same thing going on here

icy cosmos
nocturne valley
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Car community ppl mod tf out of their shit

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Yeah I'm agreeing with u algot

icy cosmos
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So you can just buy a car and be part of a community

sage wing
icy cosmos
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But to drive a community, you need to do something more… you need to love your car to be able to make it better 😅

nocturne valley
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the majority of ppl are car events mod their car

icy cosmos
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It can be as simple as cleaning it waxing it.

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Or buying collectors edition of certain car models

sage wing
nocturne valley
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theres a difference between owning something a ton of people own and being an enthusiast

icy cosmos
sage wing
sage wing
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Same for keyboards, you don't have to mod to be part of the community

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They can also just react on videos and share pictures

icy cosmos
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For example Apple IPhone only releases one special Color each year. This year its Titanium. People who want to flex they got the latest version will buy that. Somehow Samsung got the same idea 🤣. How can that possibly happen. Would you buy a flagship without titanium 🤔

sage wing
# icy cosmos That is what I am talking about at the beginning. Wooting has already decided on...

They can show it off, but I don't think they will have tons of modding products since it's mostly a keyboard selling company, they might, I have no idea. But right now it's not really the vision I think. They want you to modd it, they give a 'ice introduction to it with lube kits, spring kits, cases etc. It's already not bad. It's not just keycaps. They have springs, and are telling you that you can change the housing of switches to mix them together (jades and Lekker's, I don't see lots of companies telling you to modify they own products with other products)

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It's already not bad in my opinion, for more keycaps I would be for that too since the french iso I use is super hard to find, but the rest is fine in my opinion

fiery dawn
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Hey, i've just watched the video from 5 days ago about the wooting 80he & he had said you can pre-order once the founders has ended but you don't have that perk. is there anything extra that comes with the board ? or is it just a special flex type thing to say you're a founder.

sage wing
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You have products included

buoyant solstice
sage wing
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But just go on the website, easier to see

ebon sluice
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I have zero desire to want to swap the 80HE case, I think Wooting nailed it but then I own several customs and the 80HE has a point of difference; especially the raw zinc which will match my dogs spiked collar. I just need to buy a dog first

fiery dawn
shell flower
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19994 founders about to hit 20k

umbral locust
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firt batch almost full

lime falcon
cosmic mantle
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4 more

cosmic mantle
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2 more

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1 more

buoyant solstice
jagged moat
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Common 1 more for the 20K founders

cosmic mantle
lime falcon
cosmic mantle
rustic idol
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We are getting trolled

nova nexus
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Caps out at 19,999 gg

cosmic mantle
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we beat the game :D

buoyant solstice
rustic idol
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Ayo!

cosmic mantle
buoyant solstice
cosmic mantle
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WE DID IT!!!

shell flower
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Gg

fringe crypt
winged pelican
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it was me (it wasn't me)

unkempt field
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20000 with 4 days to spare

upbeat berry
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time to hit 30k bois

cosmic mantle
shell monolith
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Proud to be part of the founders

low token
low token
shell monolith
low token
shell monolith
cosmic mantle
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Mine says Early August

low token
cosmic mantle
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2nd batch?

winged pelican
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I think it's all 1 batch

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I made an order 4 mins into the launch and the estimation hasn't changed

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same delivery date as the order I made a week ago

tight cypress
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First batch is 20k
But founders counter also includes people who bought more than 2 keyboards, and which will receive their keyboards in 2nd batch

winged pelican
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if you order more than 1 keyboard you're put into a second batch? wat

umbral locust
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mor than 2

tight cypress
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3 or more

umbral locust
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phew

tight cypress
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Sorry, brainfart hana_Heart

winged pelican
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still wat

umbral locust
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oh man, i recently cancelled my order so i could redo my switches and i just noticed i got moved to the second batch. When i checked out it still said Late July so i feel bamboozeled

gloomy canopy
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where can i get this 80he

tight cypress
gloomy canopy
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thanks

winged pelican
gloomy canopy
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if i were to use my own switches, would rapid fire still work?

umbral locust
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I mean they are bound to the laws of reality and fact is they can only make so much so fast

tight cypress
gloomy canopy
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so bascially no cus my switches suck >:(

cosmic mantle
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I'm on 1st batch hooray :D

winged pelican
cosmic mantle
umbral locust
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Even though i placed my initial order on like day 2, all because i wanted different switches rip

winged pelican
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Where does it show that you're on "second batch"?

umbral locust
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First batch is champion/Kampion

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Im on burg now

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You can see it in the hub

winged pelican
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Ah I didn't know there's another batch called burg now 😄

umbral locust
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Its brug, no idea what it means lol

winged pelican
midnight iron
umbral locust
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instead of "saving my spot"

midnight iron
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there's still room in batch 1 but you gotta message them to put you back in there

umbral locust
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I'll give them a message and see what they say

jade widget
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is there still room? just hit 20k founders

upbeat berry
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yes

winged pelican
winged pelican
upbeat berry
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more than enough room for all the keyboard orders to come

umbral locust
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I just shot them a message, we'll see if I can be moved lol

midnight iron
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I assume some of the 20k orders are also in batch 2 as well because there's going to be some bulk buyers

upbeat berry
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ye batch1 is full afaik

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but batch2 got plenty room

white creek
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80HE 💯

umbral locust
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I feel like am order #1 in batch 2 because it shifted on me when i was checking out lol

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so hopefully if any batch 1 people cancel, i can have my spot back

winged pelican
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but logistically speaking I don't understand why "bulk orders" are in another batch (3+ kb isn't really bulk...)

upbeat berry
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i think we made the simple decision of normally people order 1 keyboard for themselves 2 at max if its a couple.

umbral locust
winged pelican
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people scalp wooting kbs? 😄

umbral locust
upbeat berry
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yes

midnight iron
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wootings go for 50% markup in korea

upbeat berry
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either way the second batch isnt too far out from the first batch

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and first batch at this point is full afaik

winged pelican
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yeah I think first batch is full no matter what

gloomy canopy
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SHIPPING IS SO EXPENSIVE

real stirrup
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But it’s worth it

tight cypress
gloomy canopy
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THATS usd 40 >:(

midnight iron
jolly tangle
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full unless youre a streamer. then we just kick number 20k out. ( this is a joke)

umbral locust
gloomy canopy
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why does it say unknown shipping estimated period for the switches though

winged pelican
gloomy canopy
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damn

winged pelican
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🥁

jolly tangle
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v2 switches

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tba

gloomy canopy
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are u guys getting their keycaps ?

pseudo parrot
umbral locust
upbeat berry
umbral locust
umbral locust
upbeat berry
# gloomy canopy wait why

the offer for free switches is buy 1+ pack get 1 free. the configurator has some bugs with this system

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we will manually fix all orders that dont adhere to the rule

gloomy canopy
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so basically i have to add another pack of switches

midnight iron
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yeah if you buy module and want free pack you need to choose one pack

umbral locust
gloomy canopy
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and it needs to be the 90 pieceds pack i assume ?

midnight iron
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well yeah otherwise you don't have enough switches lol

upbeat berry
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it needs to be a pack from the configurator correct

gloomy canopy
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i will get now yes?

upbeat berry
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that would be a valid order yes

red heart
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Do you have keycaps?

gloomy canopy
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i have keycaps at home yes

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ceramic ones but idk if i still wanna use them lol

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cerakeys

red heart
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Ok then you wont be stuck with a keyboard that doesnt have keycaps kekw

gloomy canopy
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honestly they kinda suck ;

red heart
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The cerakeys look very nice on the website

gloomy canopy
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trash keycaps ngl

real stirrup
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so if you buy the module one you don't get free keycaps damn

red heart
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But they dont come in iso so i cant use them anyway

umbral locust
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ceramickeys might give you issues, particularly hthe space bar

gloomy canopy
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yup

red heart
buoyant solstice
red heart
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But the price of the board will be lower

umbral locust
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I would get a pack of wooting abs keycaps its like 13 bucks

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rather than deal with the headache of ceramic keycaps

gloomy canopy
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ur right

red heart
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I got my gmk ready to go for the 80he

umbral locust
buoyant solstice
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Nothing free. The prices all match up

icy cosmos
umbral locust
real stirrup
buoyant solstice
trail perch
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I've been looking for keycaps these past few days and the resonance r2 seems compelling

kind wasp
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I have such a small amount of keycap picks because of German layout

gloomy canopy
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if i get the prebuilt, it comes with L45 v2, and then i get another L45 v2 for free?

buoyant solstice
red heart
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I hope wooting release custom keycap sets for the 80he like the take control that were created for the 60he

kind wasp
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I picked jade and I could choose between them

red heart
umbral locust
gloomy canopy
red heart
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Yeah take control is coming in iso de soon

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But its 60% only unfortunately

red heart
kind wasp
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Only missing 17%

red heart
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I mean you could use it on the 80he and just have like blanks for the rest

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That could work

kind wasp
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Would it look trash?

red heart
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Idk it would probably be fine

real stirrup
red heart
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If you get a black case and black blank keycaps for the rest that doesnt come in take control

buoyant solstice
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Preassembled : L60 Switches preinstalled
Module : In parts, no switches included at all

ANSI : Black PBT Keycaps preinstalled
ISO : No keycaps included at all

red heart
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I thought the iso comes with the glorp preinstalled or will i have to install it myself and take out the blorg

umbral locust
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But what if I got ISO Switches to go with my L60 keycaps

kind wasp
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How many keys do I get if I buy the L45?

buoyant solstice
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90 switches in the packs for the 80HE

kind wasp
buoyant solstice
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Start counting.

lime falcon
kind wasp
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I think I would get more keys then there would fit in so what happens with the rest?

buoyant solstice
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You put them back into the container?

real stirrup
lime falcon
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what

red heart
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256 if you suck at counting and count some switches over and over without noticing

kind wasp
buoyant solstice
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Sigh...

kind wasp
lime falcon
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emder wtf

buoyant solstice
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Anything prebuilt includes only what is on the board. Separate items includes... well the contents of that item 😄

gloomy canopy
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i cant decide if i should get the zinc alloy or just plastic casing lol

red heart
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Mansen can i get my switches in a module too? I want the top and bottom housing to be in separate packaging and i‘d like to harvest the springs from an old mattress

kind wasp
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I was curios

tight cypress
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Zinc alloy SilvTaps
White blobaww

gloomy canopy
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fine

lime falcon
umbral locust
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I got ghost plastic and zinc white

gloomy canopy
lime falcon
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but it looks so good

red heart
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I went for the ghost

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But i might also get a zinc case to swap

lime falcon
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i got just black plastic, dont like ghost

kind wasp
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I will prbly buy the zinc later but I wanted to have a frost

winged pelican
umbral locust
ebon sluice
royal meadow
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Do both the plastic and zinc case have rubber risers?

buoyant solstice
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Yes

nocturne valley
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Ordered my 80he tonight in white zinc alloy 😎

icy cosmos
pseudo parrot
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hm now i slightly want an uwu with a white brass / zinc case dogekek

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to match the 80he

tight cypress
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I ordered pearl white spray paint for my uwu's brass bottom
3 weeks and it still hasn't arrived hanaSad

pseudo parrot
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ah hmm

tight cypress
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Spray paint? I doubt it dogekek

native kraken
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Who else thinks it'll get delayed?

tight cypress
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Already was duck_bopping
Founders' campaign was moved

upbeat berry
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yeah we moved the campaign to integrate community feedback on the design

lime falcon
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yea those arrows looked gross

native kraken
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Why are the "weekly" updates not available in a blog version?

woeful mango
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does the software for wooting boot up on start like steelseries does? i want to reduce the bloatware

violet garnet
midnight iron
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^ basically if you don't want software on the computer you can just use the web version and never install anything

woeful mango
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i've had so many firmware update issues with my apex pro.. i'm ready to throw it against the wall and order a wooting

violet garnet
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lmao

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about time

buoyant solstice
sage wing
woeful mango
sage wing
static oracle
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If wootong ever come out with a mouse and headphones with the same web software style I’ll buy them too.

woeful mango
sage wing
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Hepoend for some apex pro users when updating the firmware for enabling rapid trigger

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Optimum for example, he has two, one of them is just dead

sage wing
buoyant solstice
sage wing
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It's like if a house making company is going towards car manufacturing

buoyant solstice
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A software overlay isn't going to harm your PC or your hardware. What in the actual nine hells are you smoking

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At worst it's going to trip anti-cheat protections for a game or crash it.

sage wing
buoyant solstice
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You're mixing things up.

sage wing
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Just like valorant makes mine blue screen sometimes when I'm starting it up

buoyant solstice
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An overlay has nothing to do with "updating your hardware"
Two completely different topics.

static oracle
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Just rebadge a decent set and have good software, I’m not fussy about gaming headphones. hell I use SS atm lol

sage wing
sage wing
glad meadow
static oracle
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Yeh I won’t be buying again. The software is just so damn awful

verbal oyster
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Imagine having to use software for headphones smh

glad meadow
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The engine 3 worked really well, not perfect but was good. But im just tired of adware and bloatware.

sage wing
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But if you have gigantic ears or are sensitive to heavily headphones then maybe I can get uncomfortable at the beginning, I didn't have any issues and was instantly rocking it like 10h a day for a whole week (in one single charge too btw 😂😂😂it's just ridiculous to this point the battery)

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My best buy in years really, with my blue light glasses

glad meadow
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I was thinking between the Beyerdynamic MMX200 or the Maxwell, but the battery life is the double and sound/mic quality seems better for just 50$ extra, so a no brainer

spark hound
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i like my mmx200s

drowsy lynx
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Maxwell’s aren’t very comfortable for longer sessions. That’s something to keep in mind

glad meadow
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Yeah, the mmx200 looks really cool, and on my setup could look really nice

spark hound
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mmx200 can also get a bit hot. but maybe simply fixed by using the other beyerdynamic earpads

glad meadow
silk pagoda
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Is the mmx200 good because I've heard that most beyerdynamic are meh in term of sound ?

glad meadow
native kraken
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All gaming headsets are a scam. Wired headphones + seperate mic will always be better and cheaper.

drowsy lynx
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Yeah for a bluetooth, the Maxwell is king if you can deal with the weight. I’m using a Beyerdynamiv Tygr with a mod mic and it’s perfect. EQ’d it to sound more neutral and I love it.

glad meadow
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Sure, but im not a audiophile in any sense, i just dont want to deal with cables. Wireless headphones are part of my lifestyle, just move freely and can talk with friends while moving around the house.

spark hound
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I wanted a mic boom in from of my mouth. And no sepera5 mic on my desk

nimble gazelle
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Honestly if you are willing to get a standalone mic (even something like the Antlion Modmic) I cant recommend something like the DT 990 Pro or the 900 Pro X enough

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Current setup is the DT 900 Pro X with the Wave:3. Amazing combo.

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But yeah cables 🤷‍♂️

viral sleet
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Ohhhhh ty bro, really nice information

nimble gazelle
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Lmao Wooting video dropped explaining how to get your role bigbrain

trail river
radiant wigeon
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What switches are people planning to try? I may get some Wuque Studio WS Dash switches to compare between the two switches that come with the pre-order.

buoyant solstice
low token
buoyant solstice
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Teach a man to fish. Besides you already have your roles.

nimble gazelle
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The 80 is a lie!!!!

hard vale
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nooooopepecry

nimble gazelle
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77.5HE sounds way better anyways gigachad

hearty axle
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I'm sorry if this is a stupid question but is this just an RGB strip or can you actually interact with it?

buoyant solstice
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It has functionality

hearty axle
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that's awesome

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okay followup - my Two has the dedicated mode selector buttons, how do you switch modes on the 80?

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nevermind, I answered my own question.

cloud arrow
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I've wanted to change my order for Jade switches but have not yet got a response since I made the order on drop day. Im not able to cancel my order and reorder either

tender magnet
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We don't know its functionality just yet

slim escarp
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are lekker 60 v2 better or lekker 45 v2

buoyant solstice
slim escarp
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ok thanks

buoyant solstice
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You're getting both.

upper charm
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anyone know where we can go to claim our roles for FE?

buoyant solstice
# upper charm anyone know where we can go to claim our roles for FE?

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upper charm
buoyant solstice
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Wait an hour. 🙂

upper charm
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ill check again in a bit

waxen delta
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NA champion?

prisma fjord
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champion gigachad

last python
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what are the perks for buying the 80he, I bought it but dont see anything

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nevermind I found, but how would I verify to get the role?

low token
# last python nevermind I found, but how would I verify to get the role?

You just became a founder, congrats! 🥳 But you might be left wondering how does one claim the actual Discord roles? Follow along
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last python
deep forum
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whats new about the l60 v2?

last python
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thats odd my 80he order doesnt pop up

mild isle
mild isle
last python
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so ill just wait as well

mild isle
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Just gotta wait for the role

tight loom
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Hi!

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I also just made my wooting account

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And linked (waiting for role now)

nimble gazelle
prisma fjord
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good for you

tight loom
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Boom

idle sage
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NICE

last python
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once the 60he delivered to my house I saw the email for the 80he 😭 I was so happy yet sad at the same time

steel grove
tight loom
#

Fr ^

pure vault
#

I am a patient man

rancid bolt
#

Will we have to reserve a username to put on the site for the wooting 80he or will it be our first and last names?

rancid bolt
#

Nice

silk hedge
#

kinda weird the founders campaing ends in 3 days and we still havent had an official knob reveal

rancid bolt
#

knob?

steel grove
rancid bolt
#

I don't think there is

steel grove
silk hedge
#

you joined 20 days ago, there have been leaks

steel grove
#

I'm more interested about the LED bar above the arrow keys.

silk hedge
#

blink

pseudo parrot
steel grove
#

Where can I find this info ?

low token
hearty sleet
pseudo parrot
mental lily
#

Hi, one question just cuz I saw it on yt and wanted to know asap. After ther founders campain will the prices stay the same?

buoyant solstice
#

Shortterm, yes

urban ice
#

Hey Guys,

Can someone check my order please !

Am i missing something ?

Thanks to you 🙂

buoyant solstice
#

Prices may change longterm - And you no longer receive the free switch pack

mental lily
deep forum
#

just the 80he

nocturne night
#

is it true you get a travel case when ordering zinc alloy case? cant see it on the check out page

hearty sleet
mental lily
#

Ooh ok

buoyant solstice
mental lily
#

Thanks!

still galleon
#

says travel case is included

deep forum
#

its not free with the 60he module, but is discounted at like 50% i think

nocturne night
#

ah yea i see

pseudo parrot
#

Yeah you get a travel case with the zinc case even if it doesn’t say so in the order

nocturne night
#

very cool

#

thank you wooters

hearty sleet
#

But yeah same here no travel case listed

buoyant solstice
#

Travel case doesn't appear. But is included with every zinc case.

still galleon
hearty sleet
#

I wanted to say but if you check on the case itself as well

hard rose
#

just ordered my 80he, can't wait !! will be my first wooting keyboard

prisma fjord
#

anyway keycap

hearty sleet
#

i did it on the first day because since i heard of the wooting 60he i wanted it as a "80"/75" %

#

i waited long enough so this bit wont hurt anymore zackzoLUL

hearty sleet
#

i know, what i meant is that i didn't mind which kind 75 80 inbetween i wanted it

teal axle
#

Does the 80he come with the little strap that the 60he has on the side?

hearty sleet
#

it doesnt

prisma fjord
kind pasture
#

Old topic, but I'm in the same boat. There are very few options for the ISO ES layout, none of them PBT and backlit. So having wooting make them would be great if they are already making other ISO layouts that share most of the keycaps

prisma fjord
kind pasture
#

Ali Spanish pbt keycaps aren't backlit, I've been searching and found 1 that I like but there aren't many options and a lot aren't 100% correct

prisma fjord
kind pasture
#

Big enter, ñ ç and some variations in the symbol layout

silk hedge
hearty sleet
silk hedge
hearty sleet
elfin dock
kind pasture
analog rose
#

Just got my wooting 60HE+ now I understand what all the hype is about. This thing is butter smooth. Got it and immediately modded it. Never going back.

misty chasm
#

Hmm

kind pasture
#

Oh shit, I just noticed the abs spanish wooting keycaps are wrong, they are missing { and }

elfin dock
#

I also want to buy keycaps for mine. Don't like the default ones.

kind pasture
#

And [ ] too oh no

prisma fjord
#

how often are you looking at your keyboard when you r typing?
I know the layout so I don't need special characters on my keycaps at all wires so I'm not considering buying any additional keycaps even tho wooting doesn't have it

kind pasture
#

that is also true, but I would prefer if they were correct

elfin dock
#

I often do it.

#

Nordic layout is a cluttered mess.

#

It's not specific to a language but several which is why.

analog rose
onyx scroll
#

dang

acoustic jasper
#

@buoyant solstice did you tell someone that south facing is not good on wooting pcb?

buoyant solstice
#

The opposite in fact.

#

I tell people that it isn't necessary in 99.9% of cases with our switches, because they've been designed to work both orientations.

acoustic jasper
buoyant solstice
#

Ultimately south facing works - But you do lose most of the LED light as a consequence.

#

Live your dream.

acoustic jasper
#

Because there are multiple wooting videos and ive even asked some of the team about it

plain carbon
#

i got scolded

#

sorry i coulda sworn u said not to use south face

plain carbon
#

gg i failed u

buoyant solstice
#

The only thing you really need to be aware of is the ISO enter switch. It's rotated 90" and putting that switch north or south will almost guaranteed shatter the LED for good. Gotta do West or East accordingly so to speak.

plain carbon
#

yeah

#

one thing i always wondered is why not just make PCBs universal and with software turn off iso or ansi enter

#

maybe im backseat coding here tho

buoyant solstice
#

I believe this is down to physical limitations. Can't fit both ANSI and ISO sensors and LEDs together like you can with 3/5pin switches (because those are just holes, nothing presoldered)

wispy trellis
plain carbon
#

ahhh, but you are saying if there were no LEDs this could be a thing

#

maybe im just an anti rgb shill but thatd be sick

sleek pelican
#

my question is why do pcbs only have 8 directions

#

idk how to say

buoyant solstice
sleek pelican
#

why are they always straight lines not curved

plain carbon
#

you mean the solder tracing in the pcb?

wispy trellis
plain carbon
#

i think this is just the most simple way to do stuff, since PCBs have more layers

buoyant solstice
plain carbon
buoyant solstice
#

Case in point brettuBlankies

wispy trellis
#

stick the paper under the switch of the iso enter HAHA 😛 at least than its really user problem

buoyant solstice
sleek pelican
#

id assume its because they already have the equipment to manufacture them that way

low token
buoyant solstice
#

Only ISO has this quirk, because of the big, L sized enter key

low token
#

I'am talking about wrong

#

Or it is included with every 80he

buoyant solstice
#

Wrong? Wrong how?

low token
buoyant solstice
#

I don't entirely follow.

This "issue" is on all of our keyboards. All of our keyboards are designed for north facing switches.
ISO will always have this rotated switch quirk.

low token
#

Well I know why

#

Because it would be easier to fit stabs?

lilac plaza
#

How janky is just using Cherry Brown switches these days?

buoyant solstice
#

You have lost me completely.

low token
#

Sorry

dense acorn
#

the 80he looks amazing, but my lekker still slaps hard
suffering from success

low token
#

Which lekker

dense acorn
#

is there more than one? 😮
the one from a few years ago, the full size lekker

gloomy canopy
#

U people are bad influence

#

Now I’m broke once again

buoyant solstice
# low token Which lekker

They're referring to the "Lekker Edition", which was a sort of special edition kickstarter for the 2HE. It had a special colour scheme and keycaps. Never made again.

dense acorn
#

the free switch pack is very tempting

kind pasture
#

Ok I've found all the errors in the ISO ES ABS layout from wooting (12 keycaps are incorrect wtf), who should I ping to take a look at it?

kind pasture
#

aight tysm

lilac marten
#

man i really want to see a full build with the frost case

neon rapids
#

wait why I cant see white 80he

#

oh nvm

inner escarp
#

Just ordered the 80HE! Do you guys have any concerns about weird LED light diffusion and like "mixing of colors" from each key's LED and the LED light bar?

#

I'm talking about on the PCR "Ghost" semi-translucent case.

icy cosmos
#

If anything, I got the Ghost case too so we’re in the same boat

icy cosmos
wispy trellis
#

even thzen if sold out 0 risk 😉

#

the risk i took is buying cherry keycaps without knowing if they might get interferences or not
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAppmiG484k

but o well there are solutions to that and im not talking about turning the switches because i want the led to shine..

I wanted to talk about how new innovations in the keyboard space solved one of the biggest problems for beginners. North facing switches can finally sound good with cherry profile keycaps.

Switches used:
-#Gateron Black Ink V2- https://prevailkeyco.com/collections/gateron-switches/products/gateron-ink-black-v2?variant=42248379465982

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lilac marten
#

i wanna see what the frost looks prebuilt before i order

wispy trellis
#

just relised frost = platic forgett what i wrote 😉 plastic is way cheaper in the first order

ebon sluice
hexed cypress
#

If you pre-ordered the module and parts do you not get the founder role? Is it only prebuilt exclusive?

buoyant solstice
hazy helm
#

so it's actually 8khz

hexed cypress
#

does it just take a while for the rewards to show up on the website, because i preordered 2 weeks ago and it still shows nothing

hazy helm
#

damn
now I wonder if that was a mistake ordering wooting 60he

lilac marten
#

cus of no white abs option they actually got me thinking to get the zinc white

#

there goes my food for a week

hexed cypress
#

wtf it's like someone saw this and gave them to me lol

#

they just showed up online after that last message

wispy trellis
#

i just saw a vid of the nuphy keyboard and one thing came to my mind.. look at the slim and nice RGB LED bar just saying..

lilac marten
#

at least i get the keyboard around my birthday

hazy lake
#

same

worn prairie
#

I cannot wait any longer !!!

low token
worn prairie
#

Unfortunately

wispy sky
#

either way i'm not bothered about the bleed from the bar, i ordered the ghost case too, i know what im getting into, its just the nature of a translucient case, the whole thing will have some kind of bleed from leds

#

what i really want is that black speckle case they orginally showed

jolly tangle
red heart
#

Actually you can only turn it up further, every time you try to turn it off it goes up in brightness until it‘s brighter than the sun

wispy sky
clear swallow
#

Still trying to decide on keycaps for mine honestly

#

Debating on black/yellow atm

red heart
#

It all goes to me

wispy sky
#

only 1 person is allowed their led bar on at a time

#

mum said its my turn on the led bar

chrome vector
#

what mean 77.5%?

low token
errant torrent
chrome vector
#

ah i see

chrome vector
wispy sky
inner escarp
inner escarp
low token
red heart
gray basin
#

wait the ghost case is limited edition? I didn't even notice haha

red heart
#

It said so on the order page but i got it cause i think it looks sick

wispy sky
#

im pretty certain having the bar turned off will still have it activate when its relevent like to the ideas above

inner escarp
inner escarp
red heart
#

Eh it should be fine

#

Also tbh, setting rgb to anything other than having them all be one color at the same time is a bit of a gimmick

#

The rainbow flying by shit is honestly just ugly and distracring

wispy sky
#

rainbow wave is nice if theres a setting to have it go by really slowly imo

#

majority of the time i have it on colour cycle though

idle sage
#

i am so excited for my wooting to come cuz then i will actuallly have a "gaming" kb instead of a broken office kb

tight loom
#

hi

verbal solar
#

If I remove the "80HE Founder's Campaign Free Switch Pack" from my cart, I'll still get the other founders perks right?

nocturne valley
#

U don't want free switches?

lime aspen
#

why would you remove it?

warped arrow
#

anyone else already a part of the founders campaign but still getting cta emails to join?

limber quail
#

i am but on a different email, signed up for news on 1 acc, bought the 80HE on another

sonic maple
#

I just a quick question what’s the difference between the wooting 60He and the 80HE apart from size. Is there any new features?

limber quail
#

the lil LED bar for one

ebon sluice
summer dew
#

Will alt case colours (i.e. Ghost ABS) be available after closing of founders campaign, or are they exclusive? I can’t seem to find it specified.

verbal solar
verbal solar
tight loom
#

sell them?

ebon sluice
verbal solar
idle sage
#

personally im keeeping the extra set because if anything happens to the set it comes with i have a free replacemnt

uneven gorge
#

Is the rappy snappy feature only available in the 80?

idle sage
#

no

#

there will be an update for the others i think

ebon sluice
loud snow
#

Knob would be sick imo

lavish hazel
#

agreed

idle sage
#

im excited to see wootings take on the knob

dense thunder
#

.

undone steppe
fallen epoch
icy cosmos
#

Not sure why people are so hyped on knobs, there are several high quality keyboard dedicated for creative purposes with knobs and balls here’s an example

ocean niche
#

Just purchased 80HE how do I get the role?

knotty marsh
# ocean niche Just purchased 80HE how do I get the role?

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ocean niche
rigid inlet
shadow acorn
#

d

fair pike
#

I ordered the raw but hoping it's not too polished / shiny - if so will probably try and swap to the white prebuilt. Either way very excited!

last python
#

s

devout haven
deft sigil
#

g4u

fathom abyss
#

Hello, How to check if certain switches like the Boba U4Tx is compatible with Wooting 80HE specifically for its Hall Effect functionality?

naive pebble
jade widget
fathom abyss
wide loom
toxic zephyr
toxic zephyr
spark hound
#

The price some knob devices go for.. You'd think they'd be in the same market

umbral locust
#

Yeah idk why knobs are so expensive, like I just need a few knobs to conrol volume of a few different apps, why does that need to be hundreds of dollars

cedar skiff
#

Are there any caps lock indicator on 80he? - or is there a way to light up certain keys when caps lock is on?

icy cosmos
umbral locust
#

Probably will be the same as the 60he

icy cosmos
#

I feel that most people wanting cheap knobs are just at the beginning of their “analog feeling “ journey. Kind of like how some people like a swim at the pool while others venture deep down into the ocean to discover it’s beauty.

cedar skiff
toxic zephyr
jade widget
#

When you're enough into audio you don't need to worry about the lack of knobs

#

Just the lack of money in your bank account dogekek

umbral locust
#

I keep it budget. The diminishing returns are too severe with audio

wind tiger
#

And even then, as soon as you get a proper amp you have knobs

umbral locust
#

but one knob on an amp =/= multiple knobs on something like a beacn mix or stream deck +

wind tiger
#

Yea but could keyboard knobs even function as those

umbral locust
#

But im happy with just one knob on a keyboard, I don't need a million ones.

valid comet
#

hi

icy cosmos
wind tiger
#

Keyboard knobs typically use encoders not pots if that makes the difference to you

icy cosmos
# wind tiger Whatever that even means

Right, you can’t even express your feelings. Try out the knobs on a production mixer or the Black magic pad that I posted above for reference. You have to separate between the tactical feeling when you turn the knob. And what the knob does. When I say design, I mean both the way the knob feels when turning it and the technology that is behind it. For a knob it would be resolution. How much you need to turn before it register an action, and how that action feeds back to you.

wind tiger
icy cosmos
#

Since we live in a digital world. You should be able to adjust it yourself your heart content

umbral locust
wind tiger
#

Ok, those probably are just (dampened) pots, which don't make much sense on a keyboard

#

Precisely because they are NOT digital

wind tiger
umbral locust
#

Stream Deck + uses are way too numerous to list

icy cosmos
wind tiger
icy cosmos
wind tiger
#

giggle it's funny how you make demands but got no clue what you actually want

hoary quiver
#

bruh why it says estimated august 😦 i tought it was july

violet garnet
icy cosmos
wind tiger
#

You pretend like you know sales numbers?

spark hound
#

knoooob knob knob

glossy shore
#

Does purchasing 80he Module include USBC cables, sponges, soft glue and other materials?

wind tiger
#

Considering who wooting got popular with the 60he was the better decision at that time

spark hound
#

cable yes..

#

why would it include a sponge?

glossy shore
#

PORON foam, for example, can make the keyboard feel more comfortable

icy cosmos
wind tiger
#

you can make a gasket mounting with poton, but with how the 80he works you would need a custom case and plate for that

midnight iron
#

Don’t think you can really compare 60he launch vs 80he launch just by numbers like that - wooting is in completely different position vs back then

wind tiger
glossy shore
#

It seems that we need to wait 4 months. There will be businessmen in our country making suitable accessories for 80he.

wind tiger
#

I personally don't think they would have gotten to the same position with the 80HE (not saying it is an objectively worse keyboard or layout)

nocturne night
#

80he is kinda building on the success of the 60he as everyone who saw and wanted a wooting 60he might have waited and wanted a different layout

glossy shore
#

F1-F12 is important for some games

midnight iron
#

60he got them into fps games and fps gamers tend to like 60% (not all but a lot)

#

So it’s hard to say really if 80he would have had same impact

wind tiger
#

especially the fortnite scene that was stuck between the one 2 mini and higher performance boards like the apex pro

light escarp
wise prairie
#

Can't decide between Ghost and Frost case 🥲

light escarp
dense berry
wind tiger
light escarp
wise prairie
wind tiger
#

but at that point the 60he was already very popular in the fortnite scene

midnight iron
light escarp
icy cosmos
midnight iron
#

Coincidentally enough tenz was talking about 80he vs 60he today on stream and mentioned how he’s in the minority of pros who prefers 80%/75% over the 60%

light escarp
#

The 60HE is good as it is + No PC can get to 8KHZ for keyboards besides mouse, if you ask me the upgrade should be the switches

wind tiger
#

giggle 8khz keyboard is much less of a task tbh

#

not even sure how big of an impact it would be performance wise vs a 1khz keyboard

light escarp
#

Its gonna be an ATLEAST 10% increase

glossy shore
#

K70 PRO MINI WIRELESS 8khz

wind tiger
#

cause the amount of actual useful packages would be the same

light escarp
#

UNLESS the PC youre running has upgraded stuff and the motherboard can do a fast R and W I can be wrong in this

icy cosmos
lime aspen
upbeat berry
#

the performance impact of 8khz boards is more when you have multiple 8khz polled devices on 1 USB controller/hub

wind tiger
#

if that controller is 3.0 I doubt it matters much

icy cosmos
#

For god sake we are still only using USB 2.0 with the usb c in 80HE. So there’s plenty of rooms for development

light escarp
#

For computer parts yea

upbeat berry
#

in theory yes but in practice idk if they bothered to actually implement it well enough to the spec as 8khz is still sort of new

icy cosmos
#

Or is it USB 3.0 @upbeat berry

upbeat berry
glossy shore
upbeat berry
icy cosmos
light escarp
#

We all will

upbeat berry
#

so its 1khz polled over wireless and 8khz over wire

#

doesnt mention anything about internal key scanrate

lime aspen
#

Probably 1k or less dogekek

glossy shore
lime aspen
lime falcon
icy cosmos
#

Just look at Playstation 5. It got 8k on the box. But no one is bashing them for not delivering on it.

cedar hound
#

At least its technically capable of 8k

fallow spire
# cedar hound At least its technically capable of 8k

If it’s traditional switch, technically only on first press. Debounce is required.

Otherwise, technically only possible if they also designed the scanning method for it. Can’t always make a change there that is only software

cedar hound
atomic brook
#

The item at the bottom just got added into my order, is this a bug?

spark hound
#

Hm weird. My name brother

atomic brook
buoyant solstice
atomic brook
#

so just a duplicate?

dense ridge
shell monolith
barren rampart
#

Just ordered the 80he in the zinc alloy case with white key caps, already have the 60he+. I think I’m starting an addiction… I can’t even afford this fr lol

delicate dagger
#

perhaps you should consider selling the one you prefer less later on

barren rampart
#

that’s a good choice tbh. I think I will do that

icy cosmos
vernal fulcrum
neat wind
#

Hello everyone
As of today, we have 21k 80HE already ordered. Do you guys think Wooting will be able to mass-produce all the keyboards by mid-July? Not only that, but they will also need to ship all of them.
I'm starting to wonder about this. I would consider myself lucky if I receive the keyboard before Christmas.

winged crypt
#

I was wondering if the plastic case could be available in opaque white and not that transparent like

tight cypress
tight cypress
midnight iron
tight cypress
#

And they still keep selling out dogekek

winged crypt
icy cosmos
tight cypress
rich plinth
#

Is the travel case always in each order with a zinc alloy case? 🧐

upbeat berry
#

yes

#

its part of the alloy case item itself

rich plinth
#

Is it better to lube the switches and stabilzers yourself or is the factory lubing that good that it isn’t necessary? BadSeed Tech said this but I‘m not sure. I‘m still new in this hobby. 😅

rich plinth
buoyant solstice
#

No one can answer that question for you. They either feel good when you have it in hand, or they do not.

ebon sluice
upbeat berry
#

if only it was a wooting

ebon sluice
zealous oak
#

That box is cool af

fallen epoch
#

Id eat it

mortal crag
#

I have purchased Wooting 80HE now, will you give me some discount codes?

buoyant solstice
jade widget
#

I feel like if you have to ask it's probably not going to bother you keeping them stock 😂

#

Stock lubing is more than adequate baron_keys

mortal crag
#

No, that's not what I meant. There was a translation error.

unkempt moss
#

whats the polling rate of the 60he

jade widget
unkempt moss
#

o wow thats a big dif

upbeat berry
#

1khz same as the internal key matrix scanrate

unkempt moss
#

1k to 8k thats a big dif right?

elfin dock
unkempt moss
#

oh i see

red heart
icy cosmos
rich plinth
ebon sluice
kind wasp
atomic brook
kind wasp
dusky bay
#

Still no reply after 5 days

buoyant solstice
# dusky bay Still no reply after 5 days

Correct. You're asking us to change an 80HE order - Which is very low on our priority list, because these are pre-orders and not as time sensitive as other tickets.

We'll process 80HE order edits as soon as we're able to.

silver dust
#

omagad

cursive lily
last python
#

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#

Nice, my role updated sunglass

sage wing
oblique lichen
sand drift
#

okay

barren shoal
#

4days

cursive lily
#

Btw would be sick if they made a travel case for the 80he but include a bit of extra space for a mouse

paper cairn
#

hello

soft bolt
#

When did Wooting start imposing taxes in the United States?

buoyant solstice
#

A while ago.

#

The free ride is official over!

arctic ice
#

hell yeah, tax those US people

#

better be 24% or more aswell

buoyant solstice
#

Pretty sure it's defined by the state of delivery

vast hornet
#

i ordered mine even tho my 60he is perfectly fine i just wanted to join the club 🫣

paper cairn
#

im so exited for my 80he to come

vast hornet
#

same melvin same

winter coral
#

Is there an easy way to test the 8k? I will have a USB 3.2 switch in between as I am switching between work/personal computers. Or will the software react accordingly if it doesn't get an 8k acknowledgement?

#

I know, but do I find out...if I set 8k, whether 8k is also running at the end or can somehow only be sent internally at 1k?

#

I think the question will come up and it would be advantageous if the software could show this accordingly.

soft bolt
#

Shit.. it was tax free last month when i placed 60he

lime falcon
#

I kinda forgot that other brands exist

sinful marsh
#

what do you think they will call it

pseudo parrot
#

Will be interesting to see if they do, because rappy snappy is patent pending dogekek

lilac plaza
#

I'm having trouble getting my 0% Discord Discount working.

buoyant solstice
#

Did you try turning it off an back on again?

lilac plaza
#

No I unplugged it and plugged it back in

glad wagon
#

submitted my order, so excited!! Ive been wanting a 75%+ from wooting since their 60he release

glad wagon
#

I was a bit late in my preorder so im only Late July

gusty prism
#

oof yeah im kinda bummed how far back it is but hopefully its worth the wair

lilac plaza
#

Oh yea I think it is July for me too

valid comet
#

and it only being half as good LOL

#

true but thats also because razer never used HE before

#

theyre still using optical lmao

frank pebble
#

My goods are lost and I won’t be refunded when I contact customer service. What should I do?

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😭

jolly tangle
frank pebble
vagrant hatch
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and now hopefully yo bank can fully commission it 😂🤦

frank pebble
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Customer service has not responded to my email for two days.

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My goods were also lost on the road

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😭

vagrant hatch
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they should send the money in a day

frank pebble
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My bank can't refund me either

vagrant hatch
tight cypress
vagrant hatch
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who's ur provider? @frank pebble

jolly tangle
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@tight cypress not taking a beauty sleep at this time

tight cypress
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Woke up an hour ago duck_bopping
Eating now

jolly tangle
tight cypress
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Today I slept at most 20 minutes anyways
2.5 hours of overtime 02sad

frank pebble
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So it can't refund me now

jolly tangle
frank pebble
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My credit card is no longer US based

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😭

frank pebble
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blobfacepalm l

misty chasm
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Anyone pick out keycaps and if so which ones curious to see the vibes others are going for

wispy trellis
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Teleport set with pale yellow ascents

pseudo parrot
wispy trellis
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  • blue white cable
pseudo parrot
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thought about it but dont want to risk the issues with third party cables

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my apple and moonlander c to c cables work but idk

wispy trellis
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well in germany you order if it doesent work you send back don't know about your country though

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and paypal is protecting quite well too

misty chasm
serene sluice
wispy trellis
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thanks that's my intend 🙂

winter coral
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@buoyant solstice As the Founder Campaign will soon be over...I'm wondering, since we unfortunately still don't have any final videos/pictures of the cases... can we still change the color of the case in a few weeks? If major changes are made to the pre-orders, then changes to the delivery times are probably to be expected or not? Ty

buoyant solstice
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Yes - You will still be able to change orders for a while still.
We will eventually reach a point where we've set in stone how much of each case etc... we're doing for each batch. So some changes may force a change to a later batch.

winter coral
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Ty @buoyant solstice

ancient quail
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should most people get the 80 around June correct?

buoyant solstice
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June? haha no. Late July/August has always been the estimate for the first batch.

ancient quail
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I meant July yeah sorry

dense ridge
buoyant solstice
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I refer to what Calder said in the previous one.

dense ridge
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what he said ?

jade widget
pseudo parrot
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maybe ill get one, no clue

wind tiger
pseudo parrot
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same here actually i totally forgot about that

elfin crow
# dense ridge what he said ?

https://youtu.be/cqSAnsX7QgA listen to the first 40 seconds

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undone wharf
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Hey will the frost be like the wormier k87 or n

idle sage
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i dont think so but maybe idk

jade widget
undone wharf
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No picture yet with the rgb right

jade widget
clever depot
lucid lake
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Hey could anyone clarify the main pros/cons of the zinc vs the plastic casing?

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Im having trouble making a decision lol so any opinions on what you guys like would be appreciated

nimble gazelle
lucid lake
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I see, so then there wouldn't be too much of an impact on acoustics or typing experience since thats mostly up to the keycaps and switches right?

wispy trellis
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actually i like the ampend sound of plastic the hardcases always gibve it a clean lout crispyer sound wich i don't like

nimble gazelle
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Yeah exactly, the sound debate is subjective. And no the case does play a decent role in sound. At least in my experience.

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Also the Zinc case is gonna be HEAVY

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I think they said 4kg after everything is installed?

lucid lake
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oh thats

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more than i thought lmao

tight cliff
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Not 4kg

nimble gazelle
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Maybe im trolling, it was pretty heavy

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Yeah so just over 2kg

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Lol as I was typing, I was like I think I'm wrong, let's put a disclaimer on that dogekek

wispy trellis
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it just feels good whilke typing not worth the money if your not sure about it simply because you can always buy it later for almost the same price 10$ more