🌟│wooting80he

[verbal solar]

Dualshot 2 is awesome though

[jade widget]

true could buy another 80he with how much those will cost

[verbal solar]

gO aLl Out DoE

I have dmg 3 on a qk75n....comes down to aesthetics for me. I'll put expensive keycaps on whatever 😅

Honestly though, TUT makes nice stuff for under 70$

My 80he is gonna have TUT zombie.... can't wait.

[valid comet]

TUT zombie?

[river wharf]

I have a set of 4 artisan keycaps, it will be perfect on the 80HE

[valid comet]

Oh I see

Wanna see the ones im going to use

[ebon sluice]

show me please, I dig resin

[ebon sluice]

[valid comet]

This is my first custom keycap set

Nothing super special but I like them a lot

PBTfans WoB Simple Base

Jed told me that the legends on the modifier keys for Base looked pretty off, and he was right after I looked at a sample video

Plus this design grew on me

[dim sierra]

best artisan keycaps

[valid comet]

Ill be using it on the 80HE :D

[valid comet]

Cat bean

[ebon sluice]

BoW is pretty much the Levi jeans of keycaps: reliable, sturdy and goes with just about everything

[valid comet]

WoB too

[ebon sluice]

I meant WoB oops

[valid comet]

BoW too

[ebon sluice]

I am not a fan of white, once it discolours it's all over

[valid comet]

Yeah thats the major issue also inconsistencies in "definitions of white"

[ebon sluice]

Like your favorite plant in the garden begging for sun and water as it lie dying

[valid comet]

What is white to some looks like cream or light blue to others

Ive always been more of a black product guy myself

[ebon sluice]

It looks nice and fresh like washing your car but after a few days, you wish you'd never taken it out for a drive

[valid comet]

Hahah

Ill probably wash my caps every 3 months or so

[river wharf]

Black or gray enjoyer here

[ebon sluice]

Have you ever seen Bongo keycaps, I think you'd love these https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/984799440072220692/1192237208388767874/Screenshot_2024-01-04_094445.png?ex=660ddbed&is=65fb66ed&hm=e5b83b3b079e019ed5388881a82feab6f9eed7562d5fc2d9e56314adc02a2963&

[ebon sluice]

[valid comet]

I saw someone use GMK WoB on the 60HE and they looked amazing with an Ambient backlighting

[dim sierra]

i might get one

[river wharf]

Would be cool if there was a switch + keycap combo that works as a fingerprint scanner like on some laptops

[ebon sluice]

but did it have a big ass enter key and chad spacebar? https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/984799440072220692/1128520903706279967/Screenshot_2023-07-12_125643.png?ex=660cc5fe&is=65fa50fe&hm=56d5fb0920931b13e094c01c4db88cd3b4bc94661b9abbccc77ed461e1249476&width=1141&height=728&

[valid comet]

WTF

Mine comes with a 7u and standard 6.25u

[umbral locust]

that bbc spacebar

why is enter thicc af lmao i just noticed

that thing is gonna need 2 sets of stabs lmao

[river wharf]

Nice big black customized spacebar

[valid comet]

This guy used GMK WoB on the 60HE this looks so good

Is the spacebar 10u

[ebon sluice]

Yeah, it is

[valid comet]

Jfc

Also did you see the GMK WoB 60HE build

I added a reply there

[ebon sluice]

No I haven't

[tawny flame]

So if I order a raw, I can change to white or black for free if I don’t like the future renders?

[buoyant solstice]

Yes

[ocean blaze]

just ordered the 80HE, but order isnt on my acc, how does it get connected to my discord?

[buoyant solstice]

You wait an hour or two, and it should appear on the hub if the emails match up.

[ocean blaze]

oki :)

[opaque torrent]

[eager sundial]

[pallid haven]

so does everyone just have two keyboards on there desk, one with multimedia controls?

[buoyant solstice]

I do technically have two, but only because rule of cool. I can control multimedia using layers on my 60HE just fine

Case in point

[tight cypress]

Imagine uwu with knob - would be great for media control

[polar stirrup]

yeah was thinking the same thing

getting the knob on uwu

[valid comet]

So the Wooting usea HE technology while a lot of other boards that use KS-37B switches use TMR sensors?

[tight cypress]

I think KS-37 boards use Hall Effect sensors too

[valid comet]

Just that the switches are the magnets

And the engineers will choose TMR or HE for the board

I was curious because Calder mentioned that TMR is a much higher resolution but as you bottom out it may be harder to read a signal, so I guess the reason HE was chosen was to have a more consistent feel and readout from 0.1-4.0mm?

Again im still getting a Q1 HE that has KS-37B switches, unsure if it uses TMR or HE but still interested in trying them out, should be here soon

[tight cypress]

KS-37s based boards can be made cheaper, because magnet is quite bigger, so tolerances don't have to be quite as high as with KS-20s
Heck, you don't even have to position sensor exactly under the magnet
So I think most will just go with cheap HE sensors, they're quite cheaper than TMR ones

And I think in TMRs case while they have higher resolution, they're also way more sensitive, maybe that's the issue?

[valid comet]

Thats some very useful info

Im curious tho, wouldnt that technically make the KS-37B switch on paper a potentially better switch than ghe KS-20U?

Easier to manufacture, less tolerance hassle etc

I think there was a reason regarding polarity why they didnt go KS-37B and went KS-20U instead

[midnight iron]

realistically both switches would run into similar work and tweaking needed with fine tuning noise curves etc

[tight cypress]

Dunno if less tolerance hassle would be better when we are talking about detecting tenths of a millimeter
Especially since magnetic flux and the signal coming to sensor is exponentially changing with depth, not linearly
Not sure why would they change polarity though

[valid comet]

This noise?

[midnight iron]

as in they'd need to fine tune things like how it handles pressing keys at 0.1-0.2 actuation/rt levels

[valid comet]

Ohright yeah

Sorta like a debouce or lod algorithm

[midnight iron]

and if it's not done right you end up with switches randomly switching off, deadzones etc - that's the real work of making a he keyboard

[upbeat berry]

well and keeping power consumption down but scanrate high

[valid comet]

I remember in my physics 12 class my teacher said to be careful with the magnets

Like dont slam them on the table

[valid comet]

This is also the reason Wooting uses HE sensors?

Instead of TMR?

[upbeat berry]

pretty sure TMR use less power

but its also a fairly new tech

the challenge of HE boards is power consumption while having a high scan rate

i think the main reason is that TMR sensors dont have the range or sensitivity for that range we need yet.

also price

[valid comet]

Fair

I did have a quick read on it and it was pretty interesting

They say they are replacing hall sensors over time but afaik there are no boards that utilize TMR yet

[upbeat berry]

i dont think TMR will replace HE soon at all

[valid comet]

It would be interesting to see that for a wireless board

[upbeat berry]

for angle sensing maybe

[valid comet]

Yeah maybe for like 10-20 years

But is there a clear down side of TMR performace compared to HE? Such as super high res neat the top but lower as you press deeper?

[tight cypress]

[valid comet]

Imagine

I would have bought this too

[wind tiger]

would probably be very expensive

for at best marginal differences?

[valid comet]

Probably 450-500 USD

[upbeat berry]

as far as im aware TMR is theoretically superior in any way if we can make them in the right size with the right sensing capability (range) and the right price.

[wind tiger]

how is power draw on them?

[upbeat berry]

currently you can get similar SMD TMR sensors to what size we use but only a tenth of the range for the same price

[valid comet]

Very low afaik

[upbeat berry]

for the ones i found with 90gauss max its was only 200nA instead of 1mA

[wind tiger]

oh

[wary abyss]

Why not just have 2 USB inputs for more power? Then you can sell coiled cables that are 2 wrapped into one for more profit

[upbeat berry]

but again i cant speak for a 1:1 replacement as i cant even find TMR sensors capable of 900gauss in an smd 3 pin format

[valid comet]

USB 3 anyone?

[upbeat berry]

thats very 2006 of you to ask

[upbeat berry]

also only has 500mA

like usb2

[valid comet]

Oh I see

[upbeat berry]

officially it should be 1A i believe

but most boards dont do that

[tight cypress]

Keyboard with USB-PD

[spark hound]

Less power, not more please :p

[upbeat berry]

200watt keyboard via usb-pd

[valid comet]

True

[red heart]

Keyboard with built in space heater pls

[wary abyss]

PD PPS?

[red heart]

For cold climates, warms up your fingers to make sure you keep top performance with no unwanted movement or slower reaction time

[valid comet]

End of the day tho this is going to be the fastest keyboard, so no problem

Endgame until wooting 80TMR comes out lol

[red heart]

Wooting brain to game direct input

[valid comet]

Neuralink moment

[upbeat berry]

but uh to end the TMR thing there is keyboards using TMR sensors out there

[valid comet]

Really?

[wary abyss]

Why not just allow tachyon + max polling rate + RGB effects only when PD has negotiated to the right current limit?

[upbeat berry]

because our keyboards dont have PD

[valid comet]

Do they say hall effect when its actually TMR?

[low token]

Whats tmr?

[upbeat berry]

yes

[upbeat berry]

alternative to HE does the same essentially.

detect a magnet

[valid comet]

Its just newer and more efficient

[upbeat berry]

and change some output to correlate to some information about the magnet

[wary abyss]

Hypothetically. Was the extra cost of a PD controller IC not worth?

[valid comet]

Lemme guess, the Q1 HE is TMR

[tight cypress]

Q1 HE is TMR

[upbeat berry]

mainly about keyboard space and internal cabling

our 60he is quite tight on pcb space already, the 2he needs a cable from port to board and the 80he does as well

[valid comet]

Should have been called the Q1 TMR imo but that makes sense, just would have been too much for the battery to handle

[upbeat berry]

so its sort of choosing battles of more wires to the pcb and more risk of breaking when disassembling or less wires and thus less risk

like the idea is interesting

just hard to realize

[wary abyss]

Just curious which PD controllers caught your eye so far

[upbeat berry]

not my area lol ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wind tiger]

trust, just adding more complicated electronics is totally worth it

increasing price for a very small amount of users for a very minimally useful feature

[upbeat berry]

we also looked into TMR btw but sort of put it aside for now

not like this is the first time we heard about it

[wind tiger]

can't do much if there just are not sensors that fill the requirement

looked into it and the only ones in a similar package seem to do purely digital sensing?

[upbeat berry]

theres a bit more than just that... iirc they also require amplification of the output to have a usable signal

so more circuitry again

[wind tiger]

ah

[halcyon rune]

This probably has been asked an answered to before. But is the pcb hotswap?

[upbeat berry]

the switches or the pcb

you can hotswap our switches

but you cant hotswap our pcb

[obtuse wagon]

I mean if you break the original an need a replacement yes, but hot swapping it with another PCB, you will lose all the features

[upbeat berry]

(thats not hotswapping)

[obtuse wagon]

You need the Wooting PCB for all the magic

[wary abyss]

They sell PD ICs that almost drop in replace a buck controller for 4 CAD

[wind tiger]

got a name?

[halcyon rune]

I ordered the module so I will be assembling it by myself. Didnt see mention of it on the website so I was wondering do I need to whipout the soldering iron

[upbeat berry]

its all solder-less

also not what hotswap means

[wind tiger]

hotswap just means you can change them while the PCB is plugged in

[buoyant solstice]

Very simple
https://youtu.be/eJgxb9WtYGY

[upbeat berry]

while [device] is powered

[upbeat berry]

i assume they mean 80he module

[valid comet]

It would probably make sense to start doing a Wooting uwu TMR

[upbeat berry]

due to this being 80he channel

[wind tiger]

technically you can also hotswap a soldered switch

[upbeat berry]

nope even less pcb space for the extra stuff needed to currently get tmr running

[buoyant solstice]

We really do need a better name for this, since HE switches are not hotswappable in this sense. You need to recalibrate.

It just means no soldering required for keyboards 😄

[valid comet]

Oh I see

[upbeat berry]

nono hotswap is a general term meaning you can change components while the system is electrically powered

which you can do on HE boards as well theyll just be miscalibrated

[wind tiger]

well the term is older than keyboards, I guess hot plug would be better suited to HE boards?

[buoyant solstice]

That still sounds like it implies the device being turned on.

Solderless swapping is descripting, but one word too long imo. 😄

[upbeat berry]

i mean i dont see why its not hotswap

you can replace switches without turning our keyboards off

the calibration isnt part of that equation

[wind tiger]

I mean if you need to powercycle to recalibrate it would not really be hotswap

[buoyant solstice]

Exactly.

[wind tiger]

(though I guess you could sense a switch unplugging)

[upbeat berry]

well soonish (as its in beta rn) we have dynamic calibration while the keyboard runs

[valid comet]

Also no pins that are easy to bend or break

[wind tiger]

and then trigger a recalibration once the signal from a replugged switch stabilized

[wary abyss]

TPS25730

[wind tiger]

seen how large they are?

ah wait you just mean PD

[halcyon rune]

Ah learning something new everyday

[wind tiger]

well still would take up space that is already kinda an issue atm, for a feature very few people could make use of

since very few devices got PD ports

[upbeat berry]

ill forward it internally and engineering peeps will do with it what they want

[wind tiger]

unless you plan to plug it into a wallwart and then connect wirelessly to your computer

[spark hound]

Tony, don't you have some programming to do? :p

[tight cypress]

[upbeat berry]

meeting time rn

[low token]

If I plug wooting 80he into 230v 3k Watts power outlet it will be faster?

[upbeat berry]

no

[tight cypress]

Nah, just doesn't work

[low token]

Well making it wireless and requirements of 230v power sounds fine

[tight cypress]

USB-AC

[low token]

Sounds like good trade

[balmy wraith]

What is that

65w? 😂

[red heart]

Biggest problem with he switches is you cant mod it to connect wirelessly and charge with wireless charging pad you build into your desk

[wary abyss]

You are thinking too small. You need 4 quadrant DC/DC operation so it can charge and discharge in both positive and negative power nets 👍

[low token]

If we do that... it require 300mm fan

[stoic hazel]

what it mean only get 77,5%?

[upbeat berry]

its a joke from the community

[stoic hazel]

Oh ok thx tony i thought why i only got 77,5%

So if i order next one i will get discount?

[upbeat berry]

if we have a discount system to the current one yes

[stoic hazel]

Thx 4 the answer tony

[floral fractal]

hi

[dawn merlin]

what no discount of 77,5% on my next order?
REFUND!!!

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/barney-no-himym-barney-smile-no-hm-no-barney-gif-26652793

[lime falcon]

discord discount

[zealous oak]

daily dose of wooting 80 he sound

[lime falcon]

i have it downloaded on my phone

listening before sleep BASED

[zealous oak]

Smart guy

[odd sand]

if you preorder the wooting do you get charged? or you get charged when it ships?

[buoyant solstice]

You get charged on checkout.

[odd sand]

ok so you get charged immediatly

[valid comet]

Hi guys

Are we still talking about HE power draw

[rare kindle]

I love it when a company mixes inside jokes in with their product descriptions!

[onyx spoke]

I have a huge problem with static electricity / esd, my current keyboard can handle those shocks fine, but I have had some sensitive devices die because of it.... can wooting keyboards endure static shocks? even strong shocks?

[valid comet]

Adds character

[valid comet]

Do you know what causes the shocks?

You can maybe make your room less prone to them

[onyx spoke]

Yea I narrowed it down to when I stand up from my chair, so my office chair is the culprit

but that thing was expensive and is really comfortable so I can't replace it

[karmic canyon]

the static will charge the keyboard dont worry about it

[onyx spoke]

hmm

[karmic canyon]

not true btw

[dim sierra]

Get a metal or sth can touch it regularly

[onyx spoke]

waiting for that wooting zinc alloy office chair

[dim sierra]

I have static issue when i travel too, literally get shocked from touching any metal door handles 💀

[onyx spoke]

rip

[silver wave]

does the 80he founder campaign discord role have some perks or channel?

[lime falcon]

wdym

[upbeat berry]

a colored name

thats it

[lime falcon]

u will be yellow

[upbeat berry]

no i lied

you are also separated from the rest of the members in the member list

[silver wave]

that’s dope

oke, it was only to know if i want to link the discord acc to wooting

[lime falcon]

yeah, atleast better than wooting member color ^ lol

[unkempt field]

wonder what's next after the 80he, 40he?

[tropic quest]

they should make a low profile keyb 🤔

[dense ridge]

@unkempt fieldprobably 100he

or 65he xD

[unkempt field]

i thought the 2HE was full sized already 😄

[dense ridge]

yeah but thats kind of outdated

[unkempt field]

ah

[lime falcon]

if its my guess, 65he

maybe not 🤫🧏

[lime falcon]

there is 2he already

[dense ridge]

when was 2he released?

[lime falcon]

how is it outdated

[upbeat berry]

2022 or 2021

dont even recall atm

a few years ago at least

[dense ridge]

yeah maybe technically its not but for me personally the design is kind of outdated especially when u are comparing it with 60he and 80he

[lime falcon]

true

[upbeat berry]

the design is outdated not cause of when the 2he release but the fact we just reused the old w2 design from 2018 which reused the w1 design from 2016/2017

[winter coral]

Q1 HE got pushed back second time now...maybe 80HE gets earlier to the market 🙂

[lime falcon]

no it wont

honestly

just give up man, keychron just cancel it

[dense ridge]

@winter coralim almost sure that they will use the same pcb as other chinese rappid trigger keyboards which are noticible worse then wooting

[lime falcon]

really?

[dense ridge]

i dont know but i think that it will be like that yes

[lime falcon]

i was right

if they have drunkdeer level pcb and selling it for 220 bucks thats criminal

[dense ridge]

drunkdeer is also worse then wooting

[dawn merlin]

which mice will you guys match your 80HE with?

[lime falcon]

lamzu thorn

🤫🧏

[grim fiber]

g-wolves htx 4k
cant really recommend tho. its one of those "i can fix her" kinda mice. can have lotsa issues you need to iron out before it feels good to use

[dawn merlin]

dang that orange hits hard but sold out

[lime falcon]

i have white with 4k dongle

i dont like orange

also fnatic logo naah

[dawn merlin]

my first mtb when I was super young was orange..
yeah the logo sux imo 😅

I like to have some crazy ass colors or at least a ghost/phantom RGB 90s vibe

[lime falcon]

just white thorn or black both look sexy

they look so good, orange is meh

[dawn merlin]

does the 80HE support 5 black and 1 white mouse? KappaHD

[cedar hound]

Zaunkoenig M3K, finally arriving in 1-2 days

[dawn merlin]

lucky boooyyyy

[lime falcon]

viper v3 pro 👀

razer software 🤮

[mild grove]

340€ for a mouse :))))

ninjutso or sprime webbased ! FTW

[cedar hound]

Small price to pay to get away from Razer Software

[lime falcon]

i like lamzu software simple and easy without bloat

[winter coral]

I Like my Mionix Castor pro.

[winged valley]

same!

[mild grove]

best !

[lime falcon]

is it only for v2 or 4k too?

[mild grove]

4k too

wait only v2

[lime falcon]

i heard that web based software is laggy

[mild grove]

iam using it and it is not laggy

[lime falcon]

maybe they fixed it

[mild grove]

https://www.sprime.gg/products/pm1-lightweight-wireless-ergo-gaming-mouse webbased too

[lime falcon]

sprime is basically ninjutso

they are the same just different name

[mild grove]

they build it in the same factory

[dim sierra]

pulsar

[lime falcon]

yeah

pm1 looks good tho, kinda g703 but smaller?

[mild grove]

it is 1 by 1 g703

[lament thunder]

,

[pseudo parrot]

Web based? Love to see it

[tight cliff]

G502X if they would have a silver version i'd get that

[low token]

G502x is worst g502

No spaceship sounds

[native snow]

[balmy gust]

g pro wireless is still my favorite

[devout spoke]

is it like a better sensor 703? I'm a long time 702 user, this is looking like an awesome alternative

[sullen sand]

Pulsar X2 V2 for me, Razer Viper Ultimate as backup

[lime falcon]

yes and its smaller

[tropic quest]

viper 8k

[dawn merlin]

how can we accept razer software..?

[lime aspen]

you dont

[tropic quest]

install it on a different pc/partition

[lime aspen]

you could also do what i did

and just stop buying razer products

[valid comet]

Doesnt the 703 use a Hero sensor?

[tropic quest]

no good mice then 😢

[lime aspen]

what....

[valid comet]

May 2024 will have mice that are built different

[lime aspen]

there are tons of mice that are good what are you on about

razer has good hardware thats about it

[valid comet]

True, their software holds them back

[tropic quest]

wired 8k mice that aren’t broken doesn’t leave much

[lime aspen]

their software, qc, shapes are all mid

[lime aspen]

8k is pointless if thats what makes you consider them better thats hilarious

[valid comet]

Id say wait till may 2024 if it worries you that much

[lime aspen]

the only real difference between modern flagship mice from almost any company is shape, qc, and software

[tropic quest]

shape works for me 🤷‍♂️ so i’ll just pick the better performing mouse

[lime aspen]

the latency differences between all of the modern mice is so miniscule it genuinely doesnt matter which you pick

[valid comet]

I called it a day and got the ULX, I think its a perfect batch 3 copy

[tropic quest]

<1ms maybe

[valid comet]

Been 7 years since I got a G502 Hero

[lime aspen]

basically all top end mice are sub sub 2-3ms on 1000hz

not really on the higher end of mice

[valid comet]

Pixart 3950 sensor May 2024

[lime falcon]

its actually like 1ms on latest mice

and even less with 4k dongle

[lime aspen]

yeah like it really doesnt matter what mouse you choose if its got top end hardware

[lime falcon]

doesnt matter if u use 1000+ polling

[lime aspen]

sensor position, shape, QC, and software are basically the only differences

[lime falcon]

4k dongle itself is the main thing

[valid comet]

Somw are in microseconds, like the OP1 8k (WR), Beast X/mini, ULX, DAV3, RVMSE, GPX 2

[lime falcon]

my lamzu thorn has 0.2 or smth with 2khz

[lime aspen]

click latency especially with almost any top mouse is so small its physically impossible to tell the difference, most of the faster feel comes from switches/pre travel/debounce etc

[lime falcon]

not even bothering 4khz

[lime aspen]

yeah i dont bother with higher polling anymore

[lime falcon]

2k is the sweet spot

[valid comet]

Then again its hard for me to judge, I basically usimed a G502 and thats it

[lime aspen]

the placebo wore off so i just go for battery life

[dim sierra]

lamzu mouse has small battery, 4k only last 1-2days

[lime aspen]

your 4k last 2 days? shit mines from full to 20% in a day

[lime falcon]

also setting the mouse to the strongest core makes the polling more stable

[dim sierra]

2days is being generous

[jade widget]

Battery indicator isn't super accurate

[lime aspen]

was gonna say both my atlantis mini and full size are dead within a day basically if i use 4k

[dim sierra]

i gave up weight for bigger battery so i dont have to charge daily

[lime falcon]

i dont see a reason using 4khz

not even talking about 8k

[lime aspen]

yeah i just use 1k because the placebo wore off

[lime falcon]

2k gang

[jade widget]

Yeah 4k not worth the trade off for me

[valid comet]

Same, especially when the click packets are being sent more frequently than the sensor data on my ULX

[dim sierra]

i dont use 4k either because some games just work so badly with it

[lime falcon]

i literally notice 0 difference between 2k and 4k, but i notice slight smoothness on 2k compared to 1k

[lime aspen]

theres a barely noticeable amount of less jitter on 2k compaired to 1k

[valid comet]

I care more about my clicks than my sensor polling beond 1k

[lime aspen]

anything past 2k is literally not noticeable without machines

[dim sierra]

i can tell the difference but 4k just felt worse for me in some games, especially tact shooters but games like ow is fine

[lime falcon]

yea true, but people still cope with billion hz mice

[lime aspen]

you cant tell the difference between 2k and 4k

[jolly wind]

ow is barely a game

[lime aspen]

im sorry but you cant, the difference is phyiscally impossible to tell apart

the difference in both jitter and motion latency is not something humans can notice at that point. it is placebo

[lime falcon]

we know

[dim sierra]

i can tell the difference

[lime falcon]

care what difference

[jade widget]

It's more noticeable at 360hz+ apparently

[lime falcon]

4k 8k?

[valid comet]

Nope

[dim sierra]

its just smoother mouse movement,

higher refresh rate + higher res, i can tell easily

[lime falcon]

past 2k its all imagination in your head

[valid comet]

As long as it matches my ULX or surpasses it thats good enough for me

[dim sierra]

i mean thats what ppl say for 240hz, 360hz and 540hz monitors but i can tell the difference even though its small the higher it gets

[lime falcon]

i wouldnt compare monitors and mice

[lime aspen]

apples to oranges

[jolly wind]

That’s proven to be untrue re: monitors

[dim sierra]

even mouse motion sync feels so bad for me with the extra latency 💀

[jolly wind]

“People said” 30fps to 60fps is unnoticeable. Then same for 60 to 120.

[lime falcon]

i use motion sync on 2khz

it makes polling more stable

[valid comet]

Again I dont need anything past my ULX at 1k and 1,600 DPI. it has the best click latency (marginally) at 1k anyway so why would I waste my battery at 4k

I could run wireless for a week heavy use

[lime falcon]

it doesnt add latency, literally have ~0.25 latency on my thorn with motion sync

[dim sierra]

i off mine because the extra lantency felt so bad for me

[tropic quest]

.3+ ms jitter is noticeable

[lime aspen]

me when i can notice a 0.1ms difference in jitter

[lime falcon]

whats ur sensor?

[ionic geyser]

you can’t notice 1k to 8khz on a keyboard

[lime aspen]

like im sorry anything you are feeling from 2k->4k is placebo

[lime aspen]

indeed, but were talking about mice

[dim sierra]

PAW3395

[lime falcon]

thanks

[lime aspen]

which past 2khz is very much the same

[dim sierra]

which every mouse is using

[lime falcon]

@dim sierra well i think u have placebo effect in your head once again, it literally doesnt matter on 3395 if you use motion sync or not, it doesnt increase the latency at all

[lime aspen]

doesnt it literally make it more stable with 0 added latency

[lime falcon]

yes

if youre using over 1000hz u should use motion sync as it makes polling more stable, especially that you have 3395 sensor

[dim sierra]

i mean i did try with motion sync on but its a lot worse than it off for me

[lime falcon]

as i said i also have 3395 sensor and have almost negative latency

with motion sync

[dim sierra]

like if someone turn on my motion sync i can instantly tell its worse

[jade widget]

Outside of razer motion sync adds 1ms of latency, wouldn't say it's noticeable

[lime falcon]

did you try mouse tester app?

[dim sierra]

nah i just do some blind test since my mouse doesnt use software

debounce i dont notice but polling and motion sync i do

[lime falcon]

i would try mouse tester to see what works best for u

[dim sierra]

i test in games which is more practical i for me

[jade widget]

Debounce is purely click latency

[dim sierra]

mouse tester is just stats, i go for personal prefernce i guess

[lime falcon]

i feel no difference below 3-4 ms debounce

[lime aspen]

i just use 0ms debounce because why not

[lime falcon]

yea me too

especially on opticals

[dim sierra]

yeah debounce i dont notice, i just use 0ms too

[jade widget]

A lot of mechs will double click at 0ms

[valid comet]

Motion sync 1k is perfectly fine for me

[lime aspen]

yeah thats what i use

[lime falcon]

on mechanical switches there are double clicks often

[lime aspen]

1k polling 1600dpi

[jade widget]

Opticals don't have the issue but you can slam click

[dim sierra]

do mouse even use mechanical switches now

[valid comet]

Yes

[lime falcon]

i always have 2k and motion sync

[valid comet]

A lot do, mostly name brands dont

[lime falcon]

night do you have thorn?

[lime aspen]

atlantis

[lime falcon]

ah

[jade widget]

I prefer mech switches personally

[lime aspen]

og 4k and mini 4k

[lime falcon]

havent tried atlantis

thorn is my first lamzu mouse and its nuts

[lime aspen]

its my favorite shape ive used thus far

[dim sierra]

forget when was the last time i used mech switches for mouse

[valid comet]

Never really got to use opticals

[jade widget]

Yet to use an optical which feels as good as a decent mechanical switch

[dim sierra]

my anlantis mini 4k didnt last for a month 💀

[lime aspen]

havent used thorn, thought about picking one up but couldnt justify it already having 3 lamzu mice

[dim sierra]

swapped it because it didnt feel good

[lime aspen]

mine was first batch and had scroll wheel issues but it works fine still

[lime falcon]

razer opticals are good, the one that thorn has raesha opticals are meh, but i dont really care honestly

[lime aspen]

the scroll issue got fixed 2nd batch iirc

[dim sierra]

mine works well, just battery life is so bad

[lime aspen]

oh yeah lamzu just has tiny batteries

[jade widget]

Raesha and razer are made in the same factory in fact you can hot swap them

[lime aspen]

you could do battery mod but it might throw off the weight balancing

[lime falcon]

raesha feels worse for me

[dim sierra]

yeah i bought lamzu to try lighter weight mouse, but it wasnt a big deal for me

[jade widget]

Well if you don't like em you can swap em for the Razer opticals

Can buy them on aliexpress pretty cheap

[lime falcon]

nah its fine i wouldnt bother

i would like to see viper v3 pro, might get one but not in the near future

[lime aspen]

id get a razer mouse to put in a modkit

i hate razer shapes and in my experience they have DOGSHIT qc

[lime falcon]

does viper v2 have bad qc

[lime aspen]

unless they improved, almost every razer mouse will have scroll wheel QC issues

all the ones ive owned from them have had it

after like not even a year

[dim sierra]

razer products

[lime falcon]

i like light scroll wheels

[lime aspen]

yeah i just avoid them at all times

[dim sierra]

bad quality and expensive

[lime aspen]

good hardware, shit mice

[dim sierra]

avoided them since i bought their first deathadder

[lime falcon]

honestly viper mini is goated

[lime aspen]

had 3 deathadders, a naga trinity, viper ultimate

[lime falcon]

viper ultimate is ass

atleast my copy was ass

[jagged flint]

Is the wooting 80 he worth the price?

[lime aspen]

yeah mine was dogshit as well

[lime falcon]

for most of us yes

[lime aspen]

as was the naga, and the 3 deathadders...

[dim sierra]

each to their own

[lime aspen]

im not a fan of the 80he layout, i think it looks odd

personally dont care for the extra keys, 60he is functional enough for me and i love how much better it looks

[lime falcon]

its scroll wheel was garbage and i didnt like the griptapes or whatever it was on sides bruh what even is that

[jagged flint]

Alright thx

[dim sierra]

its not the "standard" tkl layout so it does look odd

[lime aspen]

literally the 2 biggest issues i had as well

[lime aspen]

i think most tkl layouts just look a bit odd tbh

[valid comet]

Finally someone is talking about keyboards

[lime falcon]

wooting 80he mice discussion

[dim sierra]

most standard layout is just cutting the keypad out and the rest stays the same

[valid comet]

If youre ok with the non standard compact tkl and you want THE FASTEST THING then get it

[lime aspen]

60%/60he layout>>>>>>>>>>>>

[dim sierra]

i bought 80he with the excuse of wanting to try jade switches

[lime falcon]

i also prefer 60% over tkl, but 80he is nice, smaller than tkl

[lime aspen]

i was gonna order jades with my pc plate and keycaps, but im broke and couldnt justify having literally 0 dollars for jades 🤣

[lime falcon]

lekker v2

[dim sierra]

i like small kb too but i might want a tkl for editing sometimes

[lime aspen]

ill probably try lekker v2s when they release instead of jades

[valid comet]

I need arrow keys every day

[dim sierra]

jades sound for me

[lime falcon]

lekker v2 will be better imo

[lime aspen]

i didnt think PC plate would make such a big difference.. holy shit it sounds so good

[dim sierra]

i have left and right on my 60he not up and down

[lime aspen]

lubed l60s with PC plate and silicone between pcb sounds so good

[dim sierra]

lekker will sound thockier for sure, jades is just a unique sound that i really like

[lime aspen]

its so quiet, i almost dont want to get an alu case anymore

[dim sierra]

i cant fit silicone because of gummy mount 💀

[lime aspen]

im just using stock case with stock case foam

with the PC plate and silicone with lubed l60s + tape mod

[dim sierra]

i removed my tape mod, tape mod make the sound louder

[lime aspen]

white keycaps with black PC plate 😍

[dim sierra]

happy to see 80he doesnt have steel plates anymore

the gasket mount is going to feel so good too

[valid comet]

I saw someone use WoB on the 60HE and it looked so good

[devout spoke]

As far as pcb specs go is the 60He and 80He the same?

[valid comet]

People can also adjust how much gasket performance they want which is very nice

[lime aspen]

80he has a different mcu which allows 8k polling and scan rate, thats the only differences i know of there could be more

[dawn merlin]

yes we all typing with it flawless

[dim sierra]

really? thats nice

[valid comet]

But we know that it does use a different mcu

[lime aspen]

yeah aside from the mcu i dont think we know much about any other changes

[valid comet]

Yeah I asked if anyone at wooting has it figured out yet, no one really does atm but should be ready in the next month or so

[devout spoke]

Sounds good, I didn't know the polling of the 60he so wasn't sure if it was different

[valid comet]

Ill buy myself an mcu and dev kit too

[lime aspen]

60he is 1000, 80he is 8000 but it doesnt really matter, the latency difference is only 0.8ms

pick whichever layout you prefer

[valid comet]

60HE is 500 by default, and 1k w tachyon

[lime falcon]

no

[dawn merlin]

btw what we think about nvidia reflex ready mices ?

[lime aspen]

i thought it was 1k off tachyon just not stable 1k

[lime falcon]

its not 500 bruh its not some bloody keyboard

[lime aspen]

i thought tachyon just made it stable 1k yeah

[valid comet]

Really I thought it was

[lime falcon]

Nah

[valid comet]

Well gg thats even better

This sounds a bit weird but could you connect a wired usb keyboard to a mobile device

[lime aspen]

probably not without some sort of device that can translate/make it work

android might work fine with it. wouldnt say apple would

[valid comet]

I use an S20 Ultra

Maybe arcade 1 touch games could use an up arrow usb device

[lime aspen]

honestly not sure if it would work fine with just a usb -> usbc adapter or if you need something special

[valid comet]

I checked and my phone says it supports USB keyboards

[lament monolith]

how many switches comes in the pack for the founders perk, is it the same as regularly buying switches??

[valid comet]

90

[lime aspen]

i think 90 pack

[lament monolith]

oh it says 90

im slow my bad

[icy cosmos]

I am almost there with my add ons to this founder campaign. 😅 . The customer support will need a good vacation when the pre order window closes

[lime aspen]

i have a feeling they are gonna be swamped even months after 80he actually even ships out

its gonna be a busy rest of the year for them for sure

[icy cosmos]

I don´t know about that. Hopfully after the pre order, there wont be so confusing to add stuff to your order

[lament monolith]

does the 80he module come with the usb c cable?

[graceful copper]

yess

[lime aspen]

i have a feeling plenty of people are gonna be bothering customer support constantly about their orders up until they ship, and even more so when they do start shipping

[icy cosmos]

Well. you´re not wrong there but then you can automate the answer.

[lime aspen]

i mean not really, because than everyone just floods the discord bitching at people for receiving an automated response

you'd be surprised how stupid and impatient a lot of wooting customers are

[dreamy sedge]

the best thing about going to sleep is to know that in the morning youre 1 day closer to your 80HE. Mine will come in 6 months things that could be misinterpret

[icy cosmos]

Wooting is not Apple. Here you get everything includded to make a keybord work with your computer ( note only if you buy prebuild 80HE )

[lime aspen]

yeah so long as you actually ya know, read. They tell you exactly what you get

[icy cosmos]

I see you still have hope in humanity

[lime aspen]

oh god no, 90% of the questions people ask in this server is simply because they either didnt read enough, or simply refused to read at all

[icy cosmos]

Well I am obviosly one of them. Communication is a difficult matter, because you can only judge how good it is by the recipiant of it.

[dim sierra]

If you’re cancelling order they get back to u real quick

[icy cosmos]

Are people just buying because of the hype?

[dim sierra]

i think most are because they wanted to edit their orders so they have to place a new order and cancel the old ones

hopefully wooting find a way to allow people to edit their orders 💀

[kindred salmon]

is there like some kind of mac mode / windows mode on the 80HE

[icy cosmos]

haha.. I am one of them. But I refuse to give up my spot. So I am waiting for it be adjusted

[dim sierra]

its still currently first batch so i dont think it matters

since they all get ship together, and its mostly according to countries

[jade widget]

Lots of people who rushed orders and have regrets

[lime aspen]

id say patience is a virtue but im currently impatient as fuck waiting for my ebike that got delayed by a month 😭

[dim sierra]

yeah its still like 4months away before estimated shipment date

[icy cosmos]

You´re totaly right on the money. But the fact that i waited for the launch to drop at the minute, makes me don´t want to have it any other way.

[dim sierra]

fair, refunds cause wooting to lose money too so its good if u can do it without refunding

[icy cosmos]

You´re very optimistic here. I am glad if the keybord will arrive this christmas.

[lime aspen]

dont want to jinx anything but im sure itll ship out around august/

[kindred salmon]

does the he80 work on a mac?

[valid comet]

yes

[dim sierra]

i rmb them saying the estimate includes buffer times, unless there is a big issue the shipment date should be in august 🤞

[lapis galleon]

judging on how all of their current boards work on mac, its safe to assume yes

[valid comet]

may be a bit jank but ye it should work

not like the mice

[kindred salmon]

just wondering as I have a m1 macbook for work so that's good to hear

[valid comet]

oh yeah btw

when I connect my Wooting 80HE to my phone, I will be unstoppable

[icy cosmos]

You can connect it to a Iphone 15 with USB C... But your Mac.. ( you better check that License agreement )
This is from a reddit post:

I'm from Wooting:
Every feature works on Mac, except for gamepad mode: Xinput. MacOS doesn't support Xinput, which is essentially emulating the Xbox controller.

Most of us work with Mac, making it cross compatible is a big part of what we do. You can easily remap the keyboard keys for swapping cmd/option and Wootility key mapping display changes to Mac specific keys. It also includes all the special functions mac has.

[valid comet]

RT?

rapid trigger?

[proven ruin]

About how often do batches release for the 60HE+

I live in the netherlands

[idle depot]

If they made a 60HE v2 it could have 8k polling and a zinc casted casing?

[lilac plaza]

Is it almost july yet?

[proven ruin]

blud dont have a calendar

[buoyant solstice]

The checkout tells you when to expect something.

[verbal solar]

Just curious, for those who used their Credit Cards to Pre-Order, do they charge you as soon as you order or do I have to wait until near July?

[buoyant solstice]

Immediately on checkout - for all payment options

[verbal solar]

Oh, okay, thank you

[lapis galleon]

the MCU in the 80he physically takes up too much space to fit the 60he, and we already have the alumaze so I doubt we'd get a zinc casted case.

[buoyant solstice]

I'm sure we could make it fit - But it would still be a completely new PCB design and product - if we did that

[lilac plaza]

Just make it a 65% and it would be GOAT keyboard.

[umbral locust]

that would really cut down on the amount of support tickets

[stoic hazel]

@rare kindle yes sorry,first i think i dont know what it mean i got 77.5%
When tony said its a joke,then i glad read that😅

[plain atlas]

Everything works the same other than Xbox controller input
Since Xinput is a Microsoft software, it's not on Mac or Linux

[spark hound]

It might need a header change

Like discord rewards. Unless it means more than that

[valid comet]

so rapid trigger works regardless of OS?

[spark hound]

Yes. Rapid trigger is done in the board

[plain atlas]

Yep

[valid comet]

thats good

so the chances of it even working on say my phone are still possible?

[plain atlas]

The OS doesn't know about all these features

It just handles whatever input the keyboard gives it when you use the features

If there is multiple inputs of the same key per second due to rapid trigger
It just handles that like normal

[valid comet]

like a macro

[stable nexus]

After selecting the zinc case, Can I also buy a plastic case (with discount)?

[valid comet]

no discount i dont think

[plain atlas]

The OS doesn't know about macros either!
That's up to the keyboard / software to deal with and send the correct command to the OS when that combo is hit

[valid comet]

oh ok

just inputs and outputs

[plain atlas]

Unless you have global shortcut support in your OS
Then the OS does handle that

But that isn't a thing on Windows

Which is why a lot of people use Auto HotKey software!

[spark hound]

Wooting boards don't have macros

Unless you call dks a macro

[valid comet]

i use it because my up arrow is busted

stupid soldered switch

[spark hound]

Desolder it put in a new one or use one you don't use from an other key

[low token]

What about wootamation

[spark hound]

Not on the board itself. Program runs in the background

[keen wraith]

could they have macros in the future with software updates or is it a hardware thing ?

[buoyant solstice]

More of a "don't want to" thing.

Atleast on a hardware level. #💻│wootomation handles software macros, which most games will allow in theory

[keen wraith]

ah gotcha

[soft quarry]

I still can’t decide between frost and ghost

[fallen epoch]

Flip a coin

[plain atlas]

Flip a coin and if you are unhappy with the outcome then pick the other one :p

Ghost is cool though .... I love translucent tech 😍

[soft quarry]

That’s interesting now

[fallen epoch]

Ghost was my go to right after i heard that sound test

[plain atlas]

I doubt the case makes a difference in sound
As long as it's the same material

[soft quarry]

The thing is that when I saw the frost with black keycaps it looked good but my setup is black themed

[fallen epoch]

The gaskets where the magic happens, i just like see-through

[red heart]

i really want to buy come keycaps to go with the ghost case

why are nice keycaps so expensive

[plain atlas]

Translucent keycaps may make the rgb lighting look wacky

[low token]

Do you like white?

[plain atlas]

Cause the light would be leaking through where it usually doesn't

[fallen epoch]

[plain atlas]

Depends on the tech and other colors around it

[red heart]

translucent does kinda make it easier to see in bad lighting conditions but my eyes are bad anyway so the light bleed makes it harder to read

[plain atlas]

My phone is white mostly
And my tablet and laptop are silvery sort of

[red heart]

i think i'd be better off with keycaps that dont shine through in the end

[plain atlas]

Yeah I think so

[icy cosmos]

If you check the shipping. That is a discount 🤣. I managed to add 6 cases for the same cheap shipping price

[plain atlas]

Otherwise you'd have to turn down the RGB brightness almost too low in the dark otherwise it would be dazzling and hard to see

[red heart]

thinking of picking up something like this

[low token]

So do you think translucent white keyboard is a good idea?

[plain atlas]

Not sure about white

[fallen epoch]

Nice whale-like set

[icy cosmos]

Who looks at the keyboard while typing? 🤔

[low token]

Looks minimalistic

[plain atlas]

I do sometimes for the characters I never remember what key they are on

Such as ~ and -

[red heart]

the sets i REALLY want dont have international kits available

[low token]

You mean tylda and minus

[plain atlas]

Ye

[low token]

They are on every keyboard

[plain atlas]

Well it doesn't matter now since I got the 60he recently since typing ~ on that is a pain in the butt

FN + shift + tab ;_;

[icy cosmos]

I am still wondering why aren’t there 4X led for each switch?

[red heart]

this is a diff variant with color on the lettering instead but idk if i like that more

[plain atlas]

Power consumption and temperature issues maybe

[icy cosmos]

Then you don’t need to consider where the led is facing?

[red heart]

dont think so tbh

[low token]

I have simmiliar colours in colorchrome gmk set

[nocturne smelt]

Guys I bought the 80he but I didn't get the role for it in the server

[keen wraith]

i put mine on escape

[red heart]

its gmk oblivion

[plain atlas]

Create account with the same email used to order in Wooting Order Hub

[plain atlas]

How? You cant remap ~ in Wootility

[icy cosmos]

I hope we’re not at the point of GPU and CPU where it’s normal to run at 80-90 degrees

[plain atlas]

Lol no
Doubt it

[nocturne smelt]

Ok thx

[red heart]

i like this tbh i just dont know if i want to spend another keyboard worth of money on keycaps

[low token]

Oh I forgot that 60he is lacking tylda

[icy cosmos]

Just imagine.. 4X led and 8X led on the spacebar. Perfect for that Christmas challenge

[low token]

If you want nice keycaps... it is worth it

[plain atlas]

Wait
It's FN + shift + ESC xd

[dim sierra]

I dont use led, led in kb just a waste for me

[low token]

Nah it is only fn + esc

[nocturne smelt]

Will can I change the acc email from wooting website to the same email of my discord acc ? instead of making a new account

[plain atlas]

Too much power consumption
You forget this is plugged in via USB which is typically 5v

[red heart]

i mainly want my keyboard to look very nice and i think these would look great on the ghost case

[keen wraith]

lol

[plain atlas]

You need to use the same email address you made the order with

[icy cosmos]

Usb c can handle 200w

[plain atlas]

Yeh but you aren't connecting it to the computer via USB c

[nocturne smelt]

Ok

[tight cypress]

USB-C PD can handle 200W
USB-C by itself 5~10W

[plain atlas]

Yeh ... Xd

[low token]

Laptop can

[plain atlas]

You used a USB C to USB C cable?

[dim sierra]

If u want light, add some led strips to diy

[low token]

Yes

[dim sierra]

Isnt 80he usb c to c with usb a adapter

[plain atlas]

Hmmm?

[low token]

It is

[plain atlas]

No

I think??

[dim sierra]

So cant u just connect it to ur motherboard usb c slot

[idle depot]

I think it is c-c

[tight cypress]

All keebs are USB-C, and you can connect them to C slot, it's just a port type, not USB type, it still uses USB2.0
80HE comes with C to C cable and A adapter

[icy cosmos]

I don’t see the problem? Usb c handles the signals, USB C Pd handles the led?

[tight cypress]

Good luck finding mobo which has USB PD

[low token]

Well mine has

[red heart]

ok i have decided

[low token]

[plain atlas]

Cracks open my gan charger

[red heart]

no keycap buying this month, i am banning myself from spending any more money. i already bought pc upgrade and 80he this month

[tight cypress]

Lemme guess - up to 36W?

[fallen epoch]

Me right after i ordered drop latte keycaps

[dim sierra]

U have 4months of spending to buy a new keycaps before 80he ships

[tight cypress]

Saying that 5 days from the end of the month

[hearty sky]

how much time i should wait for them to reply on my email ?

[red heart]

i am very smart

[tight cypress]

Depends on the type of issue

[red heart]

yeah but what if the one i want goes out of stock before then

[fallen epoch]

Clones

[hearty sky]

ok

[dim sierra]

Bad advice but if u buy now u can just not spend anymore for the next few months 💀

[icy cosmos]

I got. Usb 4 on my MB

[plain atlas]

Doesn't do PD though

[tight cypress]

USB4 != USB PD
And most of the mobos which do PD, only do so at 12V@3A = 36W

[fallen epoch]

Thats how i role personally, i like planning ahead when i make the purchase

[dim sierra]

I mean unless ur pc power supply is massive which is unlikely

[fallen epoch]

900 tons

[plain atlas]

Even then, no

[dim sierra]

💀

[tight cypress]

There's this thing called Molex...

[fallen epoch]

[plain atlas]

Ew xd

[fallen epoch]

Return to tradition

[dim sierra]

[jade widget]

Thank God we don't use molex anymore 😂

[low token]

Well it is 3.2 Gen 2x2 so I guess

[low token]

I never used it

[tight cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-believe-you-whatever-lies-gif-3602502

[low token]

Mate i'am 04 ok

Maybe in my old pc i had molex

Tho do you like ide

Propably your favorite cable

[tight cypress]

Molex was still in PSUs around 2018... Pretty sure I have one in my PSU

[cedar portal]

Not sure if this is right here but I pre-ordered the 80HE, do I have to pay import tax on it to Germany?

[tight cypress]

Nope, everything is handled at checkout with EU

[cedar portal]

yaaay free shipping

[low token]

Same..

But it is sitting in psu box

[jade widget]

Yeah always been with psu but never actually used it

[low token]

Well it can be used for old shit

I'am glad that ide is not a thing

[tight cypress]

It's also an easy way to get 5V/12V - nice if you like to mod your PC
I used molex' 5V to power Arduino which was glued in my PC and was essentially doing the job of LED controller, since my mobo had only basic effects

[low token]

Cool

[stuck lintel]

.

[tidal drum]

does anyone know if the zinc alloy version of the 80he is gonna affect the sound of the keyboard?

[idle sage]

well i feel like in all keyboards the differences in the material of the case can affect the sound.

[fallow spire]

I took a look and you contacted using a different email. This makes the process take longer to verify you're the owner of the order and to find which order it concerns. I also took a look at information provided and it didn't match with anything and it only matched partially with an old order, which is unsuffiecient . You're best off sharing an order number and/or email related to the order, and if you have no access to that email, you will need to verify complete name and address 100% correct and last 4 numbers of the card used to pay.

Furthermore, the response time will take longer due to the 80HE launch, CS is overloaded, and you have a special condition (opened a box 1 year after delivery?).

Unless I saw the wrong email, I'll need you to DM me your email.

[umbral locust]

Yes it will. We don't know how yet.

[valid comet]

good evening Calder

[late hare]

btw just checking will the 60he also update to get Rappy Snappy which was announced with the 80he?

[umbral locust]

yes

[icy cosmos]

Wooting staff working diligently around the clock to serve the community. 😅.

[warped ferry]

[hoary quiver]

hey guys is there a final ghost color sneak peek?

[tight cypress]

Still WIP, you can see the latest iteration on the latest stream

[hoary quiver]

Thanks!

Btw is that a bug or they are giving switch packs for free? I mean while ordering a module you can remove items from cart and leave only free switches there so you can get infinite switch packs basically.

[tight cypress]

Orders are verified afterwards anyways, so that there's 1 switch pack per customer

[buoyant solstice]

One pack per customer if they either buy a preassembled 80HE (It'll be pack of L45), or a module while also paying for a set of any switches (your choice of a free pack of 45 or 60)

[hoary quiver]

Yea ikr just wanted to know if this is a bug or intended thing. On the other hand what if I leave only L60 switches that I chose while adding module in the cart instead L45 when making an order for pre-assembled one?

Not rly a fan of l45 myself

[buoyant solstice]

The intent for the preassembled is that you get to try out both the L60 and L45.

For the module it's that you get to pick one of the two, so you always have a set of our Lekker switches to try out.

[hoary quiver]

Wondering if they will send me the L60 or still ship L45 as intended?

[buoyant solstice]

If your order does not match what I already stated above, it will either automatically be corrected - or if it needs to, contact with your regarding options.

[hoary quiver]

Ok thanks

[real storm]

Is the 80he available in PCR Frost? It's in the description of said keyboard but when I go to order only black and ghost are available.

[pseudo parrot]

Yes but only for the 80he module

[real storm]

Does that involve sodering or is it just like Lego pieces?

[buoyant solstice]

Lego with a bit of screwdriver

[pseudo parrot]

like lego or ikea i guess

[buoyant solstice]

No soldering, and we'll be providing easy to follow installation guides

[real storm]

Niiiiiiiiice. I love Legos. Ordering now 🙂

[pseudo parrot]

epic

[real storm]

Thank you guys for the quick response. Wasn't expecting anyone to be up at this time

[pseudo parrot]

its afternoon in europe

[buoyant solstice]

It's noon here on a week day.

[pseudo parrot]

im om easter break

[buoyant solstice]

Nice. Not till Thursday-Monday here

[real storm]

I'm on birthday break. Taking off this whole week. I'm half way to 50

[pseudo parrot]

ah, not that far away, nice

[tight cypress]

I only have Monday free

[hearty sky]

Why August feels 10 years from now 😭

[tight cypress]

Ah... member when I waited for UwU, it was the same with me

[hearty sky]

i wish Calder post a video after the Campaign saying “woohooo good news 80he will be at our warehouse in may and will reflect in Wooting hub soon”

A man can only dream right

[real storm]

Silly question, I have switches I'd like to use that are for PCB mounts. The 80HE has PCBA, will my switches fit?

[tight cypress]

If those aren't HE switches, they won't work at all

[wind tiger]

PCBA just names an assembly that revolves around the PCB, so also the plate and stabilizers (and in some cases switches)

[real storm]

Aaaaaaaaaah. Thank you for the info

[unkempt field]

was browsing through wootstations, some nice setups there

[ripe onyx]

I hope Zinc Alloy sound test will make it until first batch is "sold out" 🫠

[digital elm]

You could order a PCR case and change it to a zinc case if you feel like the zinc is the right one for you, you’ll have to possibility to change your order

[old birch]

any idea what kind of cable comes with the board ?

[tight cypress]

2m braided USB-C to USB-C, along with adapter USB-C to USB-A

[unkempt field]

orders have slowed down a bit over the past few days

think they'll get to 20k in 19 days?

[tight cypress]

I think so

Ordering mine today

[unkempt field]

nice

sample board to be reviewed would boost up sales a bit 😉

[low token]

Cool ghost or white alloy?

[tight cypress]

Would be nice to a review, but I'm pretty sure about Wooting at this point
And I think it's more fair that founders get their keyboards before anyone else

[tight cypress]

White alloy

[unkempt field]

yea i'm sure the reviews will be good

[low token]

I thought you were going to buy ghost

[unkempt field]

just thinking a lot more ppl might order if someone like optimum reviews the board

[low token]

Fastest keyboard on market

[unkempt field]

yep

[buoyant solstice]

We don't believe in sending out unfinished prototypes for review, because it wouldn't be the product customers receive.

Review samples will be sent out at the same time as preorders, because the alternative would be holding back preorder fulfilment artificially.

[tight cypress]

I wanted to, but white alloy looks so clean... I wan

[unkempt field]

got it mansen

[low token]

Gmk keycaps

[tight cypress]

Something from osume or JTK I think

[low token]

I never heard about those brands

And also do not forget about wooting uwu

[tight cypress]

But of course

[unkempt field]

i was watching the videos on the wooting YT channel where they were reviewing setups posted on woostations, really funny

so many comments about plants

[low token]

Plants and random shit is easy way to improve setup

And little bit of good lighting

[unkempt field]

i dont have plants or lighting.. :X

[low token]

Buy fake plants

[unkempt field]

maybe i should

[low token]

And place led strip behind desk with diffusion

[unkempt field]

anyway mine is just a low end setup, i think i saw a setup that was 19K USD (claimed)

[buoyant solstice]

Naw. Netherlands only has friday

[low token]

So let me guess custom loop pc 3 oleds and few custom keybords

[buoyant solstice]

Well that's even LESS like what I just described 😄

[unkempt field]

i remember it was just 1 keyboard

lemme find it, some guy from taiwan i think

posted by this guy called YANG

titled "poor setup" though he claimed the setup to cost 17K USD, plus room renovations

[low token]

Can you link message

[unkempt field]

#1179320302803624008 message

9K USD for the setup he says

[real stirrup]

so a big room with rgb ceiling

[low token]

Not gonna lie it looks poor

[unkempt field]

yea for the price

[low token]

Well it is taiwan

Oh

He has 2 fucking herman millers

[unkempt field]

wow, 2

[low token]

[polar stirrup]

yeah my setup is a lot better for like 1/3rd of the price

[unkempt field]

i would build seomthing like optimum's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0ukdo7Xx7U&t=308s

for 5.5k USD first

[low token]

Well it works for him

[unkempt field]

yep

[low token]

Nah not worth it

[buoyant solstice]

Looks amazing.

[unkempt field]

yea it does

[low token]

Unless you really need itx

[buoyant solstice]

(and want watercooling)

[unkempt field]

i need itx 😄

[low token]

Obviosly

[unkempt field]

i'm on itx, but nothing like optimum's setup

[low token]

If you want fir 4090... only custom loop is a way

[autumn glacier]

order complete

[real stirrup]

welcome to the waiting game

[unkempt field]

lol

15515 founders

[autumn glacier]

yep here we go again for the third time lol

[unkempt field]

15515 will be etched on your case

[autumn glacier]

😮

[unkempt field]

j/k

3rd time? what else did you order ?

[autumn glacier]

60he iso that i modded then 60he module only the pcb in Ansi

[unkempt field]

wow nice

[real stirrup]

1st time for me, didn't want to wait 3 months for the 60he+ and wasted money in the apex pro

[unkempt field]

1st time for me too

[fallen epoch]

Piss squad continues to grow…. Good

[plain aurora]

hello fellow pissers

[unkempt field]

anyone knows how the name wooting came about? when i told people i ordered a wooting keyboard, they thought it was chinese ( not that i've anything againts the chinese)

[buoyant solstice]

Dutch company, English origins "Woot"

[unkempt field]

ahhh

[buoyant solstice]

Consider it the cool of yesterday

[icy cosmos]

Finally, my order has been updated 🤗. Part of the RAW gang

[unkempt field]

welcome.. 5M euros breached

[nova nexus]

[unkempt field]

🥳

[red heart]

I‘m gonna buy some nice keycaps and make my 80he the prettiest one of them all

[proud granite]

[icy cosmos]

What do you have in mind?

[red heart]

Currently looking at different gmk sets

But i am kinda limited cause i need international keys

This is going to cost about the price of a whole new keyboard

[unkempt field]

i think i read somewhere that the jades come pre-lubed, do the free lekkers come prelubed as well? sorry if this has been asked

[red heart]

Yep pre lubed

[unkempt field]

ok thanks

i'm new to this keyboard assembly business lol

from what i read its like putting togehter legos

[red heart]

Not very difficult and there will be a tutorial video from what i‘ve heard

[unkempt field]

alright

my cousin builds custom keyboards, he did offer to help, but it would be nice to learn

i spent a week googling all the options before making my order lol

didnt know what were abs/pbt key caps etc

i knew i had to buy it, but didnt know what to get

[red heart]

Are you getting the module?

[unkempt field]

yep i bought that

cause i wanted to raw zinc

[red heart]

I just went for the preassembled

[unkempt field]

ah ok

[red heart]

Cause i wanted the ghost case

[unkempt field]

that one looks nice too

[red heart]

I like transparent plastic electronics

[unkempt field]

cant wait to see your modded 80he, hope u share it here

[red heart]

I‘ll post it if i can bring myself to spend new keyboard money on keycaps

[unkempt field]

alright

[icy cosmos]

I got both raw and ghost cases together with my prebuilt 🤔

[unkempt field]

oh i could only afford 1 case

[red heart]

Unfortunately i‘m pretty sure the plastic and zinc cases arent compatible so you cant use zinc bottom and ghost top

[unkempt field]

im poor 😦

[desert quest]

yes, Calder mentioned it in one of the newest videos (I guess in the Q%A but not for sure)

[icy cosmos]

I know, truly missed opportunity

[red heart]

If you could i probably would have bought a zinc case immediately

[unkempt field]

that would be nice zinc bottomand ghost top

[icy cosmos]

I mean, you could do a case mix up on a Nokia phones back in the 3G era.

[unkempt field]

the lekkerv2s do sound good in the live stream

im glad i have this discord channel for support for the 4 month wait.

[icy cosmos]

The whole point of different materials and mix matching is customization.

[unkempt field]

LOL.

im still trying to figure out what is 'creamy' i know thocc and clack

[icy cosmos]

Try looking into HiFi Forum. You will find all sorts of definitions of sounds 🤣

[unkempt field]

haha

[viscid vessel]

why did i just get a $20 refund on my order

[icy cosmos]

Progressive… Engaging

[viscid vessel]

like, not complaining but weird that it happened out of nowhere

[unkempt field]

discord discountr

[dense ridge]

@unkempt fieldis it a joke right =)?

[unkempt field]

yep its a joke

but i used the code for fun in my order anyway

0% off

[unkempt field]

🙂

[dense ridge]

what did u get? plastic one or zinc?

[unkempt field]

zinc

[dense ridge]

so hard to decide what to order without real photos and sound test for the zinc one