🌟│wooting80he

[valid comet]

Its optimums copy

But you can see haus too and some others like jerror

[timber crescent]

optimums is trustable to me

[valid comet]

1k is faster but its marginal

[timber crescent]

So this is click latency

[valid comet]

You wouldnt tell i said click latency XLAT

[timber crescent]

But signal registrations improve with the higher polling

[timber crescent]

0,04ms + click lantecy but lower input I think it is still a win

[idle depot]

I would get zinc. If you don’t want to get your own keycap set or switches just get the prebuilt zinc one.

[timber crescent]

Let’s just get a M2k problem solved xD @valid comet

[valid comet]

They did a good job with the engineering for the ULX

[verbal solar]

How to make diy switches

[low token]

Guys what keycaps are you getting

[verbal solar]

English

[timber crescent]

Waifu keycaps

[low token]

Good choice

But with weird faces?

[verbal solar]

How would you know which letter is which

[valid comet]

OP1 8k

[quartz zenith]

Are the sound that diff, you said therer was a diff but anything you really can hear if you didnt know it? And is it lounder or more quiet

[valid comet]

77 microseconds

[timber crescent]

I’ve been using a keyboard for a long time I think it’s not gonna be a problem xD

[valid comet]

Hotswap switches

[timber crescent]

My brain can remember the keys

[verbal solar]

Sometimes you get thrown off a bit dont you?

[jovial ferry]

You can check video comparision for 60he plastic vs alumaze

[timber crescent]

It can happen yes but aesthetic>>>

[jovial ferry]

It wont be the same, but it can give you general idea

[quartz zenith]

Good one did not see that my bad

[verbal solar]

😢

[timber crescent]

If I really need to write an essay or long stuff I’ll just get my other keyboard xD

[umbral locust]

Honestly unless you are interested in the keyboard hobby, just get the plastic, it's what you are used to from other keyboards all your life.

To you the sound and feel of a case won't really matter, that's just for us nitpicky keyboarders who spend more time fiddling with keyboards than using them

[timber crescent]

Honestly I buyed the module 80he and im gonna build a custom wood case with foam to improve the sound quality

[sage elk]

Yall think this cpu good enough for 8khz polling?

[umbral locust]

The CPU doesn't matter for keyboard polling

[timber crescent]

12th gen is good

[quartz zenith]

So long story short it is more of a "snob" thing then a real usage? Sorry for the bad wording

[idle depot]

@valid comet what mouse pad/desk pad do you use with your mouse + keyboard

[valid comet]

How much power is supplied to the CPU

[sage elk]

Hm what matters then

[umbral locust]

It's not really snobness, it's just being very particular.

[umbral locust]

Nothing.

[valid comet]

My old ROG SHEATH gets the job done

[timber crescent]

I do need to buy a new mousepad any good suggestions ? xxl mousepad

[quartz zenith]

Yeah that was the word I was looking for thanks, but there is no big diffrence of it?

[valid comet]

Skypad 4? I heard things about it idk

[river wharf]

7800x3d, viper v2 pro, artisan hien mid pad, only the 80he left for my setup

[timber crescent]

I don’t really know about it

[valid comet]

Me neither lol

[timber crescent]

I was gonna buy a artisan zero control

but 90$ is quite a lot for a mousepad Ngl

[ebon sluice]

probably Polybius if I can make my mind up if black Zinc is the wise choice

[valid comet]

I dont really feel like I need a great mousepad, the one I have is good enough

It doesnt scratch

[umbral locust]

As far as usability goes, no difference. It's just for weight, looks and sound. People into keyboard modding care about that but your average gamer or keyboard user doesn't care and are happy with whatever difficult plastic is being used.

Me personally? I prefer the sound of plastic but I dislike how it looks lol

[umbral locust]

GMK Redacted on White

[timber crescent]

Mine is gonna die soon after 6 years of usage

[river wharf]

artisan themselves sell on amazon and they still charges shipping fee for prime members, very weird

[timber crescent]

Do you have the 4k dongle ?

[quartz zenith]

Oh really good responds thanks a ton! I do not think I will be getting to much into moding a keybord so think I will stick with plastic, since I only use it for gaming and always blast music so not much hearing the keys xD

[river wharf]

nope after I realize how fast it would kill battery

[timber crescent]

I think all artisans mousepad are in Japan warehouse so that’s why you paying

[timber crescent]

Same mine can do 2 weeks not more

[ebon sluice]

Ever had white keycaps before? Once you see that white go slightly dull, you'll be wondering if leaving the caps in rice over night will make them brand new again

[umbral locust]

If you develop an interest in keyboard modding in the future, you can always buy a case and other parts then 🙂

[fallen epoch]

Arcade floor

[river wharf]

it's weird because I live in Tokyo, but other sellers don't charge shippings.
their own site barely functions

[umbral locust]

Hmmm .... only ever used black

[quartz zenith]

Oh they are the same inside only the "shell" that is diffent?

[ebon sluice]

Fun set for real real

[fallen epoch]

Never seen those, look super sick

[umbral locust]

Yeah the inside is the exact same.

[timber crescent]

That’s weird

[low token]

Nice keycaps

[quartz zenith]

I think you dropped this my guy, you should prob pick it back up 👑

[timber crescent]

Gonna get a glass mousepad I guess

[low token]

Sick

[digital elm]

I feel like the 80HE has been out for weeks/months but it's not even 1 week old yet

[polar stirrup]

its not even out

[digital elm]

It's been in pre-order*

[polar stirrup]

just like preorder

[umbral locust]

Apparantly with use the sharpie effect goes away on they keycaps and they become normal keycaps

[polar stirrup]

so basically a BOW with sharpie markings

[umbral locust]

Yes that's the theme

It's so goofy. I love it.

[polar stirrup]

im thinking white case with these

or frost

[low token]

Ceramic keycaps?

[polar stirrup]

nah

i already have ceramic

[valid comet]

Im also using a 13700K and 3080Ti for my ULX and 80HE

[low token]

Is it enough?

[umbral locust]

Why would it not be?

[polar stirrup]

prob when the 80he comes out

rappy snappy is such a troll name

[umbral locust]

they should have named it Snappy Trigger to keep parity with rapid trigger

[polar stirrup]

anything that sounds like thingy is goofy

[valid comet]

I mean idk everything kinda just feels normal

But I dont have my 80HE obviously

[polar stirrup]

snap trigger would be the edgy one

[digital elm]

Aren't these like $185?

[umbral locust]

They're GMK, so probably

[digital elm]

These I think, I might get, I've been looking forward to get them for a few weeks/a month, they look really good, I'm french tho so that sucks

[twilit lintel]

Is it worth getting the Zinc Alloy? If so what are the benifits?

[low token]

They are unavailable

[umbral locust]

I have a source 🙂

[polar stirrup]

im french too azerty is just so bad

[low token]

Aftermarket

[digital elm]

https://omnitype.com/products/gmk-redacted-keycap-set

[valid comet]

Does anyone know any really good quality WoB or shinethrough side legend PBT keycaps? (Cherry or OEM)

[umbral locust]

AYO ITS ON SALE

[polar stirrup]

do it

[digital elm]

Yep, I can't tell you if this website is trustworthy tho but yeah

[twilit lintel]

Is it worth getting the Zinc Alloy? If so what are the benifits?

[umbral locust]

Omnitype is good

[valid comet]

Because I need grips on top of my caps

[umbral locust]

I'm of the mindset that if you ened to ask, then stick with plastic.

[digital elm]

Nice then, buy them bro, It's your time

[low token]

You can kill human with it, travel case

[umbral locust]

Zinc is for picky enthusiasts

[polar stirrup]

benefit, it feels and looks nicer than plastic

[digital elm]

It's not bad but all keycaps are for qwerty and I got my 80HE in ISO-french

[twilit lintel]

alright ty

[twilit lintel]

any sound benifits?

[polar stirrup]

sound is subjective

[valid comet]

Because I have been eyeing the XVX noir keycap set for a while now

[umbral locust]

But to give you a proper answer, there is no difference in use. It just looks and sounds different. It's also heavier. Whether all of that is good or bad, is up to you.

[polar stirrup]

but it does affect it

[twilit lintel]

this looks valid

[agile chasm]

how many switches are in the switch pack?

[polar stirrup]

90 i think

[twilit lintel]

i dont know the different in 60 and 45 switches

[agile chasm]

are tolerances better with the V2 variants (both L60 & L45)?

[twilit lintel]

im not a keyboard enthusiast at all

[polar stirrup]

its the spring weight

[twilit lintel]

is it also subjective? (whats better)

[polar stirrup]

45g vs 60g

yes subjective. for gaming id say 45. i perfer 60 for typing

[twilit lintel]

well if the 45 weighs less then it would be better objectively no?

thank you

for some reason i got 3 in my order tho

thats still chill

[polar stirrup]

its a bug, its 1 per keyboard

[twilit lintel]

alright

[agile chasm]

spring weight is pretty subjective

some people like heavier spring weight, some prefer lighter spring weight

[umbral locust]

It's entirely preference. Personally I think even the 60s are too light.

[polar stirrup]

same

[agile chasm]

in the context of speed, you can say that the L45's are better objectively

[umbral locust]

Depends. There is a point where accuracy becomes an issue if too light.

[agile chasm]

context of speed^

[umbral locust]

It all just really comes down to preference.

[umbral locust]

Speed of what? Typing? If it's too light you will make mistakes so you aren't actually any faster imo

[twilit lintel]

4 month wait time is insane tho

[umbral locust]

It's a pre-order. The product isn't even made yet.

[twilit lintel]

technically not made

but thats still chill

[polar stirrup]

on heavier springs you can type without bottoming out

[agile chasm]

i'm saying speed from a technical standpoint, since you can produce more subsequent keystrokes than you would be able to on the L60's; i didn't say anything regarding accuracy

[twilit lintel]

but how can i pretend that my money is gone

[agile chasm]

personally i prefer the l60's since i can type with more control

[polar stirrup]

dont worry july is next week

[twilit lintel]

???? is this true chat?

[umbral locust]

I know what you are saying. I am just saying that theorotical speed doesn't matter if you actually can't make use of it.

[twilit lintel]

is this true?

[hidden crest]

they take money at checkout

[agile chasm]

no, for sure, i just wanted to at least settle a clear difference between the two for sev

[twilit lintel]

i thought so.

[hidden crest]

Yes

[twilit lintel]

did u get infinite money glitch or something

or maybe your order didn't go through

[twin wren]

I want to see the F1-12 numbers exact above the numbers, havent seen a lot of keyboards do that.

[polar stirrup]

he has yellow name he ordered it

[agile chasm]

do you guys think people will start making cases for the 80he since it's not a universal layout?

[polar stirrup]

maybe

[twilit lintel]

also question, what is the benifit of preordering the product?

[polar stirrup]

free switches

[agile chasm]

i'm not a fan of the parts that flare on the side profile tbh

[twilit lintel]

thats it?

[polar stirrup]

names on website and discord role but that doesnt really matter imo

[twilit lintel]

i mean the only other benefit i could think of is getting your order earlier then once it fully releases

[agile chasm]

free switch pack sounds p good to me

[umbral locust]

You get it as soon as possible.

[twilit lintel]

but if they aren't fully recommended it sounds just like bogus

[agile chasm]

that too

[agile chasm]

you can choose between the two

[twilit lintel]

hmmm this sounds a bit weird tho no?
would u rather -250 dollar for 4 months and no keyboard for 4 months
or -250 dollar for a week and no keyboard for a week

do yk what im getting at?

[umbral locust]

Absolutely not lol

[polar stirrup]

its never a week

[agile chasm]

yea

[twilit lintel]

how long would it be 😱

[polar stirrup]

for me its at least 1 month bc im in asia

[agile chasm]

it will never be a week lol, waiting times hardly change; expect to wait a couple months before you actually receive it

[twilit lintel]

even after it releases is crazy.

[agile chasm]

that's how it was with the 60he

[umbral locust]

In the end it's all the same to me. I don't live paycheck to paycheck, so it doesn't matter to me.

[polar stirrup]

nah keyboards be like that. better than keycap group buys

[agile chasm]

are they going to update the hardware with the 60he to support 8k? speculation?

[polar stirrup]

no

[umbral locust]

I managed to snag the last set of GMK Pharaohs, someone asked me if the wait was worth it, I asked what wait, I bought it in stock, he told me how lucky I was because people pre-ordered it in like 2021 lmao

[glad fable]

about 4.5mil raised...crazy
biggest wooting launch yet

I wonder how they're going to list all the founders' names lmao

[agile chasm]

would 8k polling significantly increase CPU consumption?

for the wooting 80he^

[umbral locust]

no

[polar stirrup]

i feel like its more of a gimmick cuz noone reading that

[agile chasm]

i was thinking it wouldn't since keyboards don't send as much data as, say, mice

[umbral locust]

It's not like a mouse. Even then, mimce don't "significantly" increase CPU consumption. It's pretty minior, it's only an issue on extremely dated CPUs or poorly written games.

[subtle schooner]

What is 8k polling in the first place, and why do i need it?

[umbral locust]

You dont need it.

[agile chasm]

8k polling is more for marketing

[glad fable]

it'd be cool if they did it on the package again but ig they aren't fitting almost 14k people on there

[umbral locust]

Would have to be insanely tiny font to the point it's not readable lol

[glad fable]

tbh founder's perks are pretty mid this time

[agile chasm]

polling is the frequency at which data is sent per second, so for 8k polling, it would be 8,000 times per second

[glad fable]

no artisan keycap with wooting logo 😔

[umbral locust]

The only benefit as far as Im concerned is getting it as soon as possible.

Mid switches still mid even if free. And I don't even want my name on the website.

[agile chasm]

what were the founder's perks for the last release?

[polar stirrup]

that would have been fire

also question is how many characters. would make the name super long if no limit

[glad fable]

Free air freight, UwUting Founder role, and 4 random keycaps with popular people in osu community I think

[tight cypress]

4 random keycaps are included with every UwU

[glad fable]

oh they are? thought it was just founders lol

[sullen sand]

just own more than 1 keyboard

[jolly tangle]

wow I kinda hoped u knew this pochizo

[glad fable]

shhh...almost accurate

atleast I got free air freight and uwuting founder role right 😔

[twilit lintel]

i just bought it

very cool

[glad fable]

I would rock a wooting artisan keycap tho... nudge nudge wink wink

[jolly tangle]

WHO KNOWS

[tight cypress]

We are cursed by knowledge incomprehensible for a mere mortal
For examplalkjwsg,m.

[jolly tangle]

[umbral locust]

Is the spacebar on the 80he 7u or 6.25?

Am assuming 6.25u but just checking lol

[buoyant solstice]

6.25
Not sure what JIS uses, but it's slightly shorter

[umbral locust]

I'm getting ANSI so I'm set 🙂

[tight cypress]

4.5u for JIS

[foggy quiver]

I want ansi keyboard with an ISO enter key

[stone fractal]

is there a official site where people post their keyboard profiles?

[umbral locust]

I feel that.

[glad fable]

Wootabase

[safe tundra]

https://profiles.wooting.io/

[stone fractal]

thanks

[jolly tangle]

https://i.imgur.com/Zi0VpPF.png

2 meter cable for the 80he

[digital elm]

What's wrong?

[foggy quiver]

Is your computer in another room?

[umbral locust]

I can't tell if you think it's too short or too long.

[hidden crest]

2 meter is pretty long 😂

dont think its too short or too long tho

[daring lichen]

1 week still no response from Wooting support

[hidden crest]

they are backlogged they said id give it some time

[twilit lintel]

wow

[low token]

Jis is weird layout

[nocturne night]

metal or plastic for case on 80he?

[low token]

Mansen said that it is 6ft so 1.8m

[river wharf]

it is outdated, even jpnese people want to abolish it

[silver wave]

plastic is cheaper :) i went for plastic

[low token]

Depends what you want

[buoyant solstice]

I assumed it to be 6ft - like all of our other cables. If the website says 2m, I'd have to ask internally to check 😄

[nocturne night]

if metal is worth it, ill go with that why not

[low token]

No wonder. It looks horrible

[silver wave]

do you know if the cable is coiled?

[jolly tangle]

i get pinged 4 times and mansen is the first person to think what I think

[buoyant solstice]

It is straight af. If you want coils, you'll have to grab the detatchable cable kit

[stuck atlas]

Which switches are faster, Lekker60 v2's or Lekker45's? (need quick response)

[silver wave]

oki doki

[river wharf]

yup, typing software advancement made a lot of JIS specific keys obsolete

[stuck atlas]

response times wise

[low token]

It is same i guess

L60 has only heavier spring

[stuck atlas]

k thanks

[nocturne night]

80he is 8x times as fast

[upbeat berry]

they are the same with only the force required to press them being different

[stuck atlas]

going with 45s then thx

[valid comet]

Does anyone have experience using a specific set of keycaps called the XVX Noir? Does it not shine and is it very durable?

[polar stirrup]

looking at the price i wouldnt expect much from them

[lime aspen]

a whopping 0.8ms faster 🤣

[obtuse wagon]

Hey bruh I can perceive that with the naked eye, dont attack me because you cannot Im Lewis Hamilton of the video games

[valid comet]

Wouldnt be surprised

[lime aspen]

mf got neuralink so he can fully take advantage of 80he

[obtuse wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/link-counsciousness-gif-13187339

[stuck atlas]

Just ordered my 80HE lets gooo

[valid comet]

Your neuralink subscription has expired

[obtuse wagon]

You just go into standby mode until a family member puts in another credit card number

[amber cove]

is the coiled cable set compatible with the 80he? the description only mentions the 60he

[buoyant solstice]

Yes.

[amber cove]

ty

[polar stirrup]

also side legends wont be as bright because the 80he has north facing led. this is example on 100% brightness

[valid comet]

What keycaps are those

The side legend

[valid comet]

Im asking for side legend because I wanted to cover my top of keyzaps with grip tape

[left turtle]

Just ordered my he80 letsssss gooooo… in August 😂

[polar stirrup]

those are the side legends one

[valid comet]

Ah got it

Thats 4.9m dollars

So I think its enough since its 4.4m euros

[zealous oak]

August club join me

I don't know what does the wooting sound test have but it calms me

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-starwars-gif-22620514

[valid comet]

Stock L60 v2 PCR 80HE

But its a prototype

[zealous oak]

Ye, I know I mean the sound itself

[fluid kettle]

I have a question: when pre-ordering the Wooting 80he in white, will the included cable also be in white or just the standard one?

[lime falcon]

We dont know the cable color yet

[valid comet]

Should be standard but idk if it has a bew look sorta like the Two HE Mint vs the 60HE Yellow

[calm talon]

is there any 3d view of the 80he case?

[lime falcon]

not yet

[slender shuttle]

woo

[olive egret]

ting?

[valid comet]

woo

[grim thorn]

white zinc alloy locked in

[fluid kettle]

Nice, I'm thinking about it too

[frigid ravine]

we must wait till August to get our 80he

[valid comet]

W

[clear swallow]

I’m just going to look at a custom coiled for my build I think, keep the standard as a spare

[lime falcon]

dude is that metaphor

[valid comet]

Can someone help me find a really good set of doubleshot PBT keycaps that are primarily black or WoB maybe side print?

Like REALLY GOOD like my fingers will never make them wear down

[grim thorn]

lol

[glad fable]

nah keycaps will eventually shine whether its pbt or abs

[valid comet]

So grips then

And side legends

[glad fable]

never used grips

[lime falcon]

lmao ahhahahhaj

[glad fable]

wouldn't know how long they last

[valid comet]

My pbt keycaps go bad in less than a month

[glad fable]

I mean..cerakeys are always shiny ig? XD

that's what im going for because my fingers yellow my wasd

[river wharf]

Does going bad mean getting shiny?
I know that SA keycaps are somewhat shiny stock

[valid comet]

My fingers slip a lot tho

[river wharf]

Oh then i wouldn’t recommend SA, they slip easily

[valid comet]

And no rubber caps I really dont wanna use those

[river wharf]

My MT3 dev tty have been holding up well since it’s pbt

[balmy gust]

which wrist rest will work for the 80HE? is is the TKL one on wooting's site?

[valid comet]

I dont get it tho whats wrong with grip tape

[balmy gust]

or will there be an 80he specific one?

[valid comet]

Vuew accessories

There is an 80HE wrist rest made of silicone

[balmy gust]

oops ty, didn't see it

[valid comet]

No worries 👍

[glad fable]

nvm if u want grip dont go for cerakeys they're very smooth

[glad fable]

grip tape? well you could try

if it works it works

[valid comet]

Oh no i just realized looking for aftermarket "mode" keycap is gonna be a nightmare

[valid comet]

Then again I could just learn touch typing lol

[obtuse wagon]

🤷‍♂️ how good that stuff is no idea

[valid comet]

I was thinking maybe I could also try scoring and cutting my grip tapes

Think it would be fun

Feels more DIY

[lapis galleon]

PBT shouldnt shine in less than a month. you probably have ABS, PBT + ABS, or just really bad PBT caps.

[lapis galleon]

some keycap sets come with F13

that would get the job done well enough

[umbral locust]

Is there any way to get two cases with the 80he? I want a plastic and a zinc case.

[lapis galleon]

check the accessories page

cases are also sold separately

[valid comet]

Its a stock corsair set of PBT caps

They advertise it as PBT but it feels cheap

[umbral locust]

ABS can be good and PBT can be trash

[valid comet]

At least I know now

[umbral locust]

It seems common to read that PBT = good and ABS = bad even though it's not really true lol

[valid comet]

But im more concerned about durability because my finger oils are like acid

No matter how much I wash my hands

[umbral locust]

Eh I skateboard, and part of the hobby is just fucking your board up. Keycaps are the same. If you use them, they will look used, no way to avoid it

[obtuse wagon]

Then you are forever screwed

[umbral locust]

You can wash your hand before you use your keyboards and get a fancy PBT set to buy some time, but they will shine.

[obtuse wagon]

Guessing you are the same type to turn a white mouse yellow after a period of time..

[umbral locust]

Embrace it.

[valid comet]

[obtuse wagon]

Just something you will have to replace over time, especially if you have strong body oil's

[valid comet]

Ok final try for now, what about a blank set of high quality black PBT (no legends, cherry or oem)

[umbral locust]

I think they look cool, as long as you actually know your keyboard well then there is no issue running some

[zealous oak]

You can try those that have the top part blank but they have the chars in the front side

[valid comet]

The only set I found was from was ducky and they slapped their logo on it

[obtuse wagon]

Will look pretty bonked because of the north facing LED

Doesn't look that great

[valid comet]

Its an eyesore i would pay to have it gone

[zealous oak]

True

[valid comet]

Oh thats fine the LEDs are more for ambience not for shinethrough

[zealous oak]

I saw in aliexpress several of those keycaps

[valid comet]

Yeah

[obtuse wagon]

https://divinikey.com/products/enjoypbt-blank-keycap-set

They are out of stock tho

[zealous oak]

https://es.aliexpress.com/item/1005005501427627.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.17.33c4XPimXPim0C&algo_pvid=2f6130e2-23ff-4a1b-b762-61bc3a4d5acc&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch|query_from%3A

[obtuse wagon]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256801910400152.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2usa4itemAdapt

Seems Ali has them in stock, if they are actually what they claim tho

[valid comet]

unfortunately those rely on shinethrough otherwise the legends will not be visible

Like most other shinethrough kbs

[river wharf]

jpy did another nosedive, I’m glad I bought a week ago

[verbal solar]

Hory shet. Looks like I have to get the 60he module, 80he module, zinc case, and my Aeroboard70.... goodbye money

[umbral locust]

idk about have to

But I feel that lmao

[verbal solar]

Yes....have to.

Maybe just the 80he

[lime falcon]

there goes whole salary

[verbal solar]

On top of the 7900xt i am getting as well...

[lime falcon]

bro ulted

[umbral locust]

You joke but this has been a very expensive year for me. I got a new phone, laptop, desktop and got into keyboards all within a few months

Salary non existent

[lime falcon]

which phone did u get

[umbral locust]

15 pro max

Replaced my 6S

[verbal solar]

Dude! Since December: 5 boards, Ikea computer room, desktop build in the works (need gpu), gun bunny waifu banners, gun bunny waifu deskmat, hp power g10 laptop, started school again

[umbral locust]

rip

[verbal solar]

Probably gonna sell the tofu redux case i have for a 60he module and just get the 80he module...

[umbral locust]

How much?

[verbal solar]

With the brass weight bar. Haven't built it yet. 65$....from Texas

Minus shipping

[hard vale]

check dms

[umbral locust]

Hmm, I wonder how much shipping will be to Canada. Probably stupuid high

[bitter canopy]

brasil

[lime falcon]

brazil

[verbal solar]

I have some TUT zombie keycaps that would go nice with that white zinc case!

How long till the modules and cases ship?

Ah... July....cool

[sand girder]

Will the wootility appimage (linux) work with 80he?

[umbral locust]

Nope

[valid comet]

ok so

i came up with 2 keycap sets

none of which are sideprint

is sideprint even going to be that legible on the wooting at 50% on white

not that im aware of

is KFA Cherry Profile Blank PBT good PBT?

Thoughts on Base PBTfans WoB?

jesus its expensive for keycaps

[umbral locust]

WAit till you like a set of GMKs lol

[umbral locust]

PBTfans are good keycaps

[valid comet]

will they test my finger acid

[umbral locust]

You wont find a keycap immune to it

[ebon sluice]

If you want good quality affordable Pbt blanks, Ranked are quite good and have a lot of different colors https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1186265045227802714/1218181836371660940/IMG_0702.JPG?ex=6606bb3e&is=65f4463e&hm=8e890021c6cdf185d519dfe6a1a388e57296d711ac5d26aba4cb0577276f99de&=&format=webp&width=1237&height=928

[umbral locust]

Maybe ceramic

[valid comet]

ceramics are slippery

and i'll also be "bashing" the up arrow

[ebon sluice]

would a small usb fan to cool your fingers be a better options

[valid comet]

should I just call it a day and buy myself 2 thin gloves

[ebon sluice]

much cheaper than buying fancy caps

[valid comet]

but I do really like the PBTfans WoB...

ill get both lol

[ebon sluice]

pbtfans are good quality for sure

[valid comet]

are they doubleshot?

or dyesub

[ebon sluice]

doubleshot

[valid comet]

LETS GO

also god i love how it says Super instead of windows

OS neutral

[empty matrix]

🙂

[valid comet]

alright, i figured out what caps, now where would I get gloves that are thin

I was eyeing the XVX noirs, because I wanted a black set, the issue is when I was talking to someone who owns them, they said that the side legends are hard to read if you don't have backlight, but I might get myself some XVX noirs for my Q1 HE

https://kbdfans.com/collections/pbtfans-in-stock/products/pbtfans-doubleshot-wob?variant=40342537273483
https://keebsforall.com/en-ca/products/kfa-cherry-blank-pbt-keysets?variant=42688029065435
https://www.xvxchannel.com/products/xvx-gray-gradient-side-printed-oem-profile-keycap?variant=44209633067245
(yes II know OEM and Cherry are slightly different)

[violet garnet]

Gradient goes crazy

[valid comet]

i mean my Q1 HE is coming 1st, should I buy my XVX noirs and my PBTfans at the same time? (im in canada)

[umbral locust]

https://www.deskhero.ca/products/gmk-cyl-grey-on-black-keycaps?variant=40616714797122

My next purchase probably. I love how it gets darker towards the bottom.

[valid comet]

XVX nours love the south LEDs

^ BIG BRAIN

and i can see if I get used to having them no LEDs

[valid comet]

brave. the board looks nice, but im much more of a black and white guy

uffff should I even be doing transactions this late

[umbral locust]

Late night impulses

[valid comet]

keycap set has been on my mind for a while noow

so not exactly an impulse buying decision

[ebon sluice]

Pretty sure the renders are messed up, according to the Geekhack interest check the colours used are GMK CR and 2B. No mention of gradience

[umbral locust]

hmmm

[acoustic jasper]

their POM keycaps are pretty nice, probably the only good pom keycaps available

[ebon sluice]

oh ok, I haven't tried Pom's at all, maybe someday

[weary atlas]

@valid comet what does your role "80he but only got 77.5%" mean

[valid comet]

tkl is 80%, 77.5% would be a better way to describe this board

[acoustic jasper]

they scammed us, we only are getting 77.5% of functionality of a 80%!

[lime falcon]

that means he ordered 80he, order it too so u can have the role

im a salesman

[polar stirrup]

dont worry the led bar makes up the 2.5%

[acoustic jasper]

gonna have to sell my old ec boards, i thought topre was my retirement home but 80he got me back

[grim thicket]

Did anyone else have to do payment verification?

[valid comet]

whats that

[polar stirrup]

so what keycaps did you choose in the end

[valid comet]

2 in mind

since im getting the Q1 HE with south LEDs I will get the XVX Noirs

[grim thicket]

When ordering my 80he they sent me and email where I had to verify that I had possession of the card I used to pay.

[valid comet]

mine was just the 3 digit code and an 8 digit code i was sent from my bank

[polar stirrup]

i was thinking of maybe getting these for my 80he

[valid comet]

i'll try those with LED's off, then i'll decide if I want another set of XVX Noirs or I will just go for the PBTfans WOB

[grim thicket]

They made me show and image of the last for digits of my card as well as the name.

[valid comet]

turn on the leds

[polar stirrup]

no shine through

but kind of tranparentish

[grim thicket]

Looks clean in my opinion.

[polar stirrup]

i think when it releases a lot of people are getting these

[grim thicket]

Wonder how long shipping will take

[river bay]

Hello, my wooting80he pre-order has been in an “on hold” for more than six days. This is my first time using a credit card to buy wooting. I received an email requesting verification of my credit card information. However, I already responded to the verification email on March 16th, following the instructions in the email, and also sent the verification image again March 19th. Unfortunately, I haven’t received any response yet. Should I continue waiting, or should I send the verification image through another method?

[polar stirrup]

best to email wooting directly

or make a post herehttps://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1019755933959733258

but most likely you will be told to write an email

[obtuse wagon]

You just need to wait for a reply

Guessing the backlog is insane right now with the 80HE launch

[river bay]

Okay, thank you. I’ve already replied to the email requesting my credit card information for verification, but I haven’t received a response yet. Maybe I should wait a little longer

[river bay]

I think so, thank you.

[lime falcon]

u just need to wait, no need to rush because it will be delivered in 5 months

[verbal solar]

Hey guys is the wooting 80HE a TKL board or is it missing a couple of keys?

[river bay]

Yes, you are right. Thank you. I just wanted to ask if replying to the verification email is enough or if there are other methods needed.

[umbral locust]

its missing a few keys.

[lime falcon]

if u sent what they asked thats enough

[verbal solar]

Okay. Thanks for the info.

[lime falcon]

2.5% less

[river bay]

okay, get it

[fluid ruin]

All it looses compared to a standard tkl is scroll lock, home and end

[lime falcon]

it doesnt lose in anything

you can remap keys

[fluid ruin]

I was more referring to the fact that the physical keys are not present on the wooting

[bleak vale]

weee my paycheck coming tomorrow, it's preorder time :D

[lime falcon]

its wooting time

[valid comet]

same

[bleak vale]

poggers

btw does anyone know if you receive a VAT receipt when ordering or when it's delivered?

[umbral locust]

That was my favorite scene.

john wooting said it's wooting time and then wootinged all over the place

[lime falcon]

wooted all over the place

john wooting is a cool guy

[bleak vale]

seriosly tho I gotta know if you receive a VAT receipt when preordering or if you get that later?

[umbral locust]

might have to message support about that one

[bleak vale]

nah, I'm sure someone here has already preordered theirs and can answer?

[umbral locust]

maybe. I just searched for vats receipt and haven't seen anything come up except your message.

[bleak vale]

a VAT receipt is just a normal receipt :D I'm just clarifying that I want someone from the EU to answer since an american receipt is useless for my accounting :p

[lime falcon]

vat is included if ur asking this

[bleak vale]

no my reason for asking is because my end of fiscal year is on the last of June

so I need to know if I can book it for this year, or if I have to do it for next year

yes I'm buying it as a business expense :D

[lime falcon]

[bleak vale]

ooh, you can request an invoice?

[muted dust]

@bleak vale you can request after ordering

[bleak vale]

thanks @muted dust that's exactly what I needed to know!

[lime falcon]

ur wootings gonna look fire with that raw zinc

[umbral locust]

Am still so conflicted on case choices, i really hope they show us more pics/video/sound

[lime falcon]

plastic gang🤫🧏

[bleak vale]

yeah I think I'm gonna go with plastic

my current keyboard is zinc alloy and it's too heavy for me, I change typing position like 10 times a day so I want a keyboard that actually can slide around on the table

[umbral locust]

ngl i think the plastic sounds best on the 60

[lime falcon]

plastic is goated

[bleak vale]

plastic does tend to have a thoccier sound out of the box

but you can get a metal case to sound thoccy too, just needs more work

[umbral locust]

which is funny because lots of people chasing thocc avoid plastic

[umbral locust]

other than tape mod, i've done almost every mod i can think of and i still think the base prebuilt sounds better than my customs.

Alumaze and freebird60 both sound hollow, high pitched and pingy/rattley

[bleak vale]

once I get my 80HE I'm gonna try some new crazy mods that nobody has tried before

my plan is to cram something inside the actual switches

you know the Lekkers have a hole in the bottom where the magnet is visible?

I'm thinking of putting some kind of foam padding inside of that hole

[umbral locust]

wwhy not just get jades?

[bleak vale]

shush

[red heart]

80he comes with lekker v2s

[bleak vale]

I just wanna play with glue and scissors and shit

[umbral locust]

prebuilt yes, with module you can get jades.

[red heart]

Those might be different in regards to aforementioned hole (tho not a lot of info has been released yet)

[bleak vale]

ah you're right, we don't even know if the V2s even have that hole

[umbral locust]

most likely they will.

[bleak vale]

I hope so

I wanna put stuff inside the holes :D

[umbral locust]

V2s are just tighter tolerances and better fitment, doubt it's a major revision or anything

[lime falcon]

lekker v2 doesnt have closed bottom

unfortunately

[bleak vale]

whips out the hot glue gun

[red heart]

[lime falcon]

hope u wont fuck up switches

[umbral locust]

I am conflicted because i like the feeling of closed bottom but i hate the sound lol

[bleak vale]

I'll just buy a few extra kits, the lekkers are pretty cheap :D

and probably fuck them up yes

[lime falcon]

maybe v2 are more expensive?

dude just get jades lol

[red heart]

I mean yeah its basically just a magnet and a spring in a plastic housing

[bleak vale]

I'm beyond chasing the thocc

I'm out here chasing the donk-squish

[winter coral]

Another switch Update will come later 2024

[stray surge]

thinking about preordering a keyb, yall think i could just get the free switches without paying for anyother set?

it says buy one get one free but i can remove the switches that cost money and just have the free ones in my cart

[lime falcon]

No you wont get free pack without buying

[midnight iron]

They will remove the free switches manually from any orders that do this

[stray surge]

oh fr so it just wouldn't come with switches?

[lime falcon]

No, you need to purchase them

or buy prebuilt

[stray surge]

thank you

[quartz hare]

I bought 4 wooting80he. Can you give me four cans of shaft switch pack ?

[lime falcon]

bro bought wootings for whole neighbourhood

[quartz hare]

I cant understand. what's that means

Also, my order has been held for many days. Can you help me process it? I have been unable to receive a reply to emails

[lime falcon]

Is it on hold because of payment verification?

[quartz hare]

yes

[lime falcon]

Did you send whats needed?

[quartz hare]

Yes, I have already sent him the detailed payment voucher

[red heart]

Wait some time, support has a lot of work right now because of new release

[lime falcon]

You need to send picture of last 4 digits of ur credit card, your name and current date, then wait for their reply.

[red heart]

Keyboard comes in august so there is a lot of time for payment to go through

[quartz hare]

I use Alipay to pay, and the payment screenshot has been sent in the email

[lime falcon]

Then all you need is wait

[quartz hare]

My shipping address is China. Do I still need to pay Chinese customs taxes

My friends and I bought four wooting80he together. Can I get four switch packs?

[midnight iron]

Does your order say 4 free switch packs? It should be 4

Assuming you bought the prebuilt that is

Also keep in mind ordering 4 80he in one order would have bumped you to batch 2 as well, so if you wanted to be in batch 1 you’d need to order separately

[tight cypress]

I believe now orders don't say how many packs you are getting, you'll just get as many as many you'd get from perks anyway

[buoyant solstice]

Which is one per customer.

[river wharf]

Does having magnetic stuff like Magsafe near the keyboard affect its performance?

[quartz hare]

I think both overheated temperature and magnetic force can affect

[polar stirrup]

damn thought it was 1 per kb. what about the module plastic+metal case discounts? do you only get 1 discount or both discounted

[tight cypress]

I don't think so, unless you literally put a magsafe charger on the keyboard

[river wharf]

Ok 👍, somehow my table has a weak magnetic metal bar support. I doubt it will interfere

[hollow geode]

yo

how do i get mah rank 🙂

w

[lime falcon]

In the wooting hub connect your discord and refresh rewards if you already purchased 80he

[lunar dragon]

Weird how the EU-Kamp batch is not listed under Batch-Updates, I guess it's due to not having been any updates on it?

Why is the role called "80HE but only got 77.5%"

is it because it's in fact a 77.5% keyboard? xD

[tough igloo]

One question. Where are the orders fulfilled? It was in the Netherlands right? Also by Wooting or by a 3rd party company that fulfills the orders? Mine apparently arrived at the warehouse now.

[buoyant solstice]

Depends on where it's going. US has their own warehouse, as does China, Taiwan and Japan (one for all three)
Everything else is shipped from the Netherlands. All are third party fulfilment partners.

[tough igloo]

Okay I see. I’m Located in Germany so Netherlands then.

[river wharf]

Jp has their own warehouse now? 👀

[buoyant solstice]

That's not what I said.

[digital elm]

He said that Jp, China and Tawain have all the same warehouse

[river wharf]

Oops, I misread, so I assume it's China warehouse that handle the 3 countries

[buoyant solstice]

Mhmm. And we are currently not able to ship everything from there. Still need to stock up on a lot of things - so some orders will still fulfil from NL

[olive egret]

fuckit, alloy white 💪

[whole horizon]

does anyone know if the 80he has a battery, and if it does can it be removed easily and still have the device function?

[pseudo parrot]

Wired only

[buoyant solstice]

No battery, no wireless fucntionality

[whole horizon]

linux driver?

[upbeat berry]

no drivers needed

[whole horizon]

i mean linux support the gui utility

[upbeat berry]

it uses all default HID drivers for keyboard, mouse, generic controller and default XInput

our Wootility Web works with any chromium based browser

and Wootility Installed also works on basically linux any based distro

[buoyant solstice]

https://wooting.io/wootility

[upbeat berry]

https://wootility.io

[whole horizon]

will it be possible to purchase this keyboard after it comes out or is it only preorder?

[upbeat berry]

our software doesnt function as a driver either. all functions are run on the keyboard itself

[pseudo parrot]

Here is the guide for Linux btw
https://help.wooting.io/article/147-configuring-device-access-for-wootility-under-linux-udev-rules

[upbeat berry]

it will be mass produced but we cant promise that they will be in stock on the day they arrive in the warehouse

[whole horizon]

thats fine

i was thinking about waiting like a month or so to see some reviews first

[upbeat berry]

you are welcome to do so

[whole horizon]

very helpful thank you

[upbeat berry]

the only things that will change are that after our founding campaign the discounts will be gone but thats it

[buoyant solstice]

Reviews won't happen till we ship out pre-orders by the way. We're sending retail samples to folks, which won't be ready until pre-orders ship anyway.

[upbeat berry]

expect reviews around september id say

[crystal locust]

Is it true that if I wanted to do the following:

Order with a grey case, choose ISO layout, I have to put together the board entirely myself?

Cause if so I'd look for other alternatives already

[buoyant solstice]

Module means you need to put some parts together yourself, yes.

[red heart]

if you order iso you need to put on the keycaps yourself

[upbeat berry]

we will of course have guides for this assembly

[buoyant solstice]

Namely place the PCB and daughterboard into the case, fasten them with screws, and then screw the case itself together, then insert switches and keycaps.

We'll be providing easy to follow, step by step video guides on this. 🙂

[upbeat berry]

i assume with grey they mean raw zinc

[midnight iron]

it's semi-assembled in that the stabs and pcb etc are assembled already so it's honestly a lot easier than a full, from scratch, type build

[red heart]

ah

i assumed the see through plastic

[buoyant solstice]

That one is the same deal. Also part of module, meaning self assembly.

[red heart]

[violet garnet]

So basically by the time reviews come out, founders will have already received their keyboards?

[upbeat berry]

yes

most likely

[violet garnet]

Cool

[crystal locust]

I didn't mean the zinc one. If it means putting the pcb in yourself and whatever I would definitely skip out on this keyboard

[upbeat berry]

or well there may prob be reviews that are done quick but for a good review the reviewer would need to spend a few weeks with the item

[crystal locust]

Even tho otherwise seems like a good product overall..

[red heart]

so this is technically module? or am i misunderstanding the original question

[upbeat berry]

what do you mean by grey then @crystal locust

[buoyant solstice]

Yes - The alternative would be artificially holding back shipments for pre-orders until reviewers had their time. Which doesn't feel fair to everyone.

We offer a 30 day no questions asked return on our products. 🙂

[midnight iron]

honestly outside of stabs the rest of assembling a custom keyboard tends to be really quick and easy. Stabs are like 90% of the work, so it being preassembled there makes it easy

[crystal locust]

the base one, no? Theres a black and grey option afaik

[upbeat berry]

you mean the translucent black?

[pseudo parrot]

Very ikea like I would imagine

[upbeat berry]

that is assembled

it doesnt say module at the top i assume but you selected just 80HE

[pseudo parrot]

On iso key caps come in a separate box

[upbeat berry]

all you "assemble" on ISO boards is keycaps

[crystal locust]

Sounds "fine". Would take like 10 minutes..but I think lots of people would probably really appreciate pre-assembled across the board. I dont know the logistics and costs behind that, but it seems very anti-consumer in my eyes, as nitpicky as this might sound.

Since you get the keyboard and still have to work on it before its actually the "full" package. That's just my honest thoughts.

[upbeat berry]

would increase the cost per keyboard

[red heart]

increases the number of SKUs exponentially

not feasible unless very very big company

[buoyant solstice]

We either stock a loose case, or we have to set aside PCBs for all three language options. Much simpler for everyone (and easier to stock) to avoid preassembled SKUs spiraling.

[crystal locust]

But hey, thanks for being transparent and helpful when it comes to this. It's still on my "wishlist". But however this is still a crucial bit in terms of experience

[upbeat berry]

i think overall this is more ecofriendly

[crystal locust]

And why ill keep looking for alternatives, or decide for this one regardless

[red heart]

eh, you have to do it once and then never again

i did it on mine in 2018 and forgot i even did it until someone reminded me here

[pseudo parrot]

I went module due to the extra dopamine of getting more boxes

[upbeat berry]

if iso only had 1 language it would be easy to preinstall keycaps

[pseudo parrot]

Joking I just wanted the frost case option

[red heart]

may i interest you in some spare pc part boxes that i have in my closet

[pseudo parrot]

Haha I threw away some of mine mine recently

[midnight iron]

interestingly enough in the custom keyboard space a lot of people would actually prefer assembling themselves

[tight cypress]

If only frost was a bit more white than transparent

[crystal locust]

Definitely fair

I'm just that buy and plug type of guy

[digital elm]

As for myself, I took a module, because I wanna build my first keyboard

[midnight iron]

it's definitely an interesting reverse in that the more fancy the keyboard gets the more it's not pre assembled in this space

[pseudo parrot]

Yea that would have been nice, I just didn’t want the weight of zinc but otherwise I would have gotten that

[red heart]

i'm going to create the fanciest keyboard where you first need to harvest the carbon used for all the plastics from the air

[tight cypress]

💪

[buoyant solstice]

(total weight of the keyboard)

[upbeat berry]

which is fair but we sadly arent a size yet where we can just eat warehousing costs and such for basically increasing the keyboard skus X fold and hoping we sell all stuff we have and dont sit on some language keyboard SKU for 5years that no one buys

[pseudo parrot]

I really like the weight of my 2he, tend to move the board around somewhat so pcr would be nice to match the weight

[olive egret]

Part of the fun is the assembly and modification honestly, make it your own in a sense :)

[tight cypress]

I have my uwus tucked behind 2he, so when I want to play some rhythm games I just move them forward

[digital elm]

Why 2 Uwus?

[lime falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/uw-u-kawai-pixel-art-gif-18479272

[tight cypress]

Left one for left hand, right one for right hand

And 3rd one behind as media control keypad

[digital elm]

You could have just bought a full 60HE+ at this point

[tight cypress]

And I shall too

[upbeat berry]

crap

thats the blurry one

[midnight iron]

i don't think you're supposed to use bread rolls as a mice

[digital elm]

You really got motion blur on ahah

[red heart]

why are there brötchen on your keyboards

thats so many crumbs all over everything 😭

[sterile marten]

Hi, was just wondering if the 80he comes with a usb-c to usb (whatever the normal one is called). Just ordered the white alloy one, cant wait 😄

[digital elm]

I’m french, but why bread on your keyboards?

[upbeat berry]

because cant have a good gaming session without sesam semmel and kaiserbrötchen

[tiny orchid]

damn you have 10 hands?

[tight cypress]

USB-C to USB-C 2m cable and USB-C to USB-A adapter

[sterile marten]

So its just plug and play after putting on the keycaps? or do i need to buy some extra cabels?

[tight cypress]

Plug and play

[digital elm]

You guys made me realize that I have a USB-C port on my motherboard that I’m gonna be able to use, and I didn’t know was there for 3 years even tho I built it myself

[tight cypress]

And maybe configure with Wootility https://wooting.io/wootility

[upbeat berry]

scrapped secret stuff screenshot

pain in the butt to get it back into the storage the same way it was

[digital elm]

That’s how you get paid?

[upbeat berry]

lol no i wish

[digital elm]

So you got every wooting in existence?

[upbeat berry]

bought all of them yes

[digital elm]

What was the lekker edition?

I didn’t know they released that many boards holly

[upbeat berry]

the founding campaign version of the 2HE

different topplate color and special keycap set

box opens like this

[digital elm]

Looks nice, at how much was it priced?

[upbeat berry]

200

[frigid ether]

That's a nice plate

[upbeat berry]

ye 200

[digital elm]

Do wooting exist since 2016?

[buoyant solstice]

2015 technically I think?

[upbeat berry]

2015 i believe

thats when the w1 was conceptualized

[digital elm]

As a german, do you use qwerty or azerty?

[upbeat berry]

i have long since switched to ISO US

so qwerty

[digital elm]

That’s a long time, I think I’ve heard of them because of the wooting double moment software

[upbeat berry]

i also often try to write german without äöüß

[wind tiger]

I use ANSI-US as a german

[digital elm]

But I didn’t look them up at the time

[wind tiger]

but always write with out special characters using an extra software layer

[red heart]

german layout is qwertz

[wind tiger]

though I swapped before I could touch type that well

[digital elm]

Ohh, so it doesn’t make that much of a difference

[upbeat berry]

it does

[red heart]

you also have special characters

öäüß

[upbeat berry]

not just those

all braces and bakets are at odd places

[wind tiger]

basically everything on the second (and third layer) is shuffled around

[upbeat berry]

same for @ and |

[tight cypress]

We have ß in our layout for some reason

[red heart]

i'm so used to them being there i dont even see it as weird 💀

[wind tiger]

we are still missing the ẞ in the official layout

[upbeat berry]

the german layout is a nightmare to program in

[digital elm]

Qwertz?

[upbeat berry]

the issue is that doesnt show the altgr layer

ansi doesnt have an altgr

its all just base layer and shift

especially [] and {} which in US are just 2 keys and a shift to use either set are odd to type on a german layout

especially since { and } are split apart and not next to each other

backslashes for windows navigating are also odd

[red heart]

i dont really have a problem using {} but thats probably because i'm so used to it and havent used anything else

[wind tiger]

not to mention that you need umlauts for typing quite a bit

[upbeat berry]

ngl get used to a US layout... its bliss

[wind tiger]

gotta use the correct one when writing (and programming )

[red heart]

[upbeat berry]

i just use alternatives or loanwords

[wind tiger]

also possible ig

[upbeat berry]

its rare that i need umlauts for typing german now

[red heart]

or worst case

[wind tiger]

how do you even write the funny c in french

[red heart]

just do oe

[upbeat berry]

special accent stuff

[wind tiger]

I mean

[upbeat berry]

yeah oe, ae, ue and ss are still valid forms for the specials

[wind tiger]

I use wincompose, you can remap all of those in it

[upbeat berry]

cant do that on a mac

[digital elm]

Look at how far appart braces are on a french layout

[upbeat berry]

and id like my typing experience to be os agnostic

[digital elm]

This "ç"?

[wind tiger]

yea

[upbeat berry]

yeah the one with a special key

on 9

[wind tiger]

fair

[upbeat berry]

if we get DKS on FN layers id use that

[wind tiger]

was about to say, having a letter on ß feels wrong, but we also have that

[digital elm]

ç

Can’t do it bigger than this

[wind tiger]

funnily enough din 2137 E1 splits up ß and ẞ on two separate keys, which is very fucked imo

idk who bothered to make a "european" layout if it is bound to be this cluttered

[digital elm]

Bro this looks awful

[wind tiger]

this really just feels like they set up a giant fund for it without thinking about what the outcome could be like

[wind tiger]

the esperanto of layouts

[buoyant solstice]

Imagine trying to do all of this in a single mould

[wind tiger]

lasered only

really, only way to do it would be like quadruple shot or like three color dyesub

[mortal tree]

possibly a silly question but do keycaps advertised as fitting cherry mx switches also fit the lekker switches of wooting boards?

[tight cypress]

They sure will

[mortal tree]

Thanks 🙂

[tight cypress]

Both Cherry MX and Lekkers have the same cross stem

[mortal tree]

b-e-a-utiful

[crystal locust]

Oh yeah, i forgot to ask about this earlier

So when it comes to shipping, are the estimates on site reliable for shipment to germany

Or is it possible there'll be postpones later

[tight cypress]

Ordering from Poland - I'd say pretty reliable

[pseudo parrot]

from norway, mine came in 2 days pretty reliable

its an estimate though so there may or may not be delays

[digital elm]

80HE already in the top results

[low token]

Wootang

[dark mural]

Hi, will the HE 80 support 8000Hz polling with RGB effects? Or is it like the tachyon mode wich disables rgb effects?

[buoyant solstice]

It is not like Tachyon mode.

[dark mural]

ok, will there be tachyon mode on the he80? what are the benefits of that mode?

[buoyant solstice]

8khz surpasses what Tachyon mode does.

[tight cypress]

That's... a good question
Maybe Tachyon for lower polling rates, like 1k, so keyboard will scan internally in 8k, but still poll to USB in 1k... I dunno

[dark mural]

they said both internal plus usb will use ture 8k polling

[grave willow]

Does anyone know if any professional wow players use wooting?

[buoyant solstice]

Some probably are - I don't see how it would matter. Their main concern is global cooldown and server latency 😄

[tight cypress]

Sure - you still will be able to change polling to lower values, in case your PC won't like 8k

[grave willow]

@buoyant solstice i feel like rapid trigger does a slight difference when it comes to the neverending button smash

[hoary cove]

Yo! - The site says "cancel anytime" I would like to change my order from PCR to Alloy, but I cant seem to find the "cancel order" anywhere on the hub/order page - Am I blind or is it missing xD

[buoyant solstice]

Okay? Not sure why I got pinged for that.

[grave willow]

But maybe its just me 🙆🏼‍♂️

[buoyant solstice]

You'll email us at [e-mail] asking us to change the order around (or to cancel)

[hoary cove]

I can just ask for the order to be changed for the alloy? - Sweet! will do that

[frosty plume]

@empty peakCan you help me cancel my order

[buoyant solstice]

As Calslock already explained to you, in your dedicated support thread, you WILL have to wait for an email response.

[lime falcon]

Yes, but depends on pro scene

Majority of Valorant pros use Wooting, but cs pros not so many for some reason

they still use lojitik

🤷

[tight cypress]

Eh, that's because they're used to good ol membrane keyboards they used while playing 1.6

[lime falcon]

I guess they have contracts or what else i dont see a reason

zywoo was using wooting and then he stopped and switched to some xtrfy bs

[tight cypress]

I think that's because Vitality entered a partnership with XTRFY, and big one at that...

[thick lichen]

Most of the team are actually sponsored and are forced to use Logitech keyboards for instance.

[lime falcon]

Yeah

[thick lichen]

Vitality had a partnership with XTRFY, so they had to swap as well ye

We haven't paid anyone to use our keyboards, so those who use it now, genuinely like the board.

[lime falcon]

But those contracts are terrible they force players to use other keyboards, mice etc.

[sage reef]

also watching video I guess many use F key bindings for things
it also takes time to adjust, since unpredictable to move with analog (and shooting) at first

[lime falcon]

but at the same time most valorant pros use wooting but they arent sponsored

[thick lichen]

Some sponsor don't force to use their keyboards, but all social media posts and whatever need to contain their products and they can't share anything else. But for tournaments they are free to use the keyboard they want, as they would perform the best of course.

[lime falcon]

Yea true, this also can be the case, lets see maybe 80HE will change things in pro scenes

[tight cypress]

I think there shouldn't be place for forcing peripherals on players in e-sports scene - after all you want players to be most effective, and peripherals have huge influence on that too

[midnight iron]

usually it's only personal sponsorships that enforce using certain peripherals these days

like zekken is using full razer setup for everything now after his sponsorship deal, although he knows other gear is better - but razer definitely paid a pretty penny for him since he's arguably top 3 valorant player in the world right now

[lime falcon]

tbh cs pros dont really care lol they will play on whatever, im sure if u ask s1mple whats wooting he wont have a clue

[silk hedge]

I doubt many of the current cs pros played 1.6

[thick lichen]

The whole forcing people to use their keyboards is just such a massive pump-n-dump of money. It just feels like a waste, definitely for our scale atleast.

[sage reef]

but wooting kbs also considerably better in input lag, and this should be pretty major reason to use it also for pros.

[silk hedge]

They even censored deskmats at cs events

[low token]

Well there is still some cs 1.6 and source paying in t1

[lime falcon]

they did

[astral scroll]

Yeah for example Magnum in KC's Valorant VCT team use a 60He

[weak jasper]

i have a question about the wooting 80he, i bought the module kit and raw case. do these switches need to be soldered or are they press fit like on a hot swap board?

[sage reef]

even 2 ms difference in input lag can result in losing some game, since dozens/hundreds of exchanges in a game, especially if full team vs non-wooting. since small margins often, teams are often like equally good.

[tight cypress]

Hot-swappable

[midnight iron]

I get the zekken deal though since he must have secured some big money for that sponsorship. I had a short chat to him when sen was in korea before the sponsorship went live and he said wooting was still the best keyboard he'd used lol

[weak jasper]

sick, thank you

[lime falcon]

80he is hotswappable just like other wooting keyboards

[silk hedge]

Donk was born in 2007 that mf hasnt touched 1.6

[thick lichen]

Valorant is crazy how many use our keyboards. I was really suprised to check after a while that ours is #1 lol

[lime falcon]

yea sure not donk, but others did

and many of them

[silk hedge]

Cs is dying anyways

[low token]

Current so includes ogs from source and cs 1m5

[low token]

Since 2015 i hear that

[astral scroll]

Yup that's impressive, I don't see THAT MUCH of wooting keebs in Apex or CoD or even CS

[lime falcon]

yeah, and in cs wooting isnt even in top10 i guess need to check

[low token]

Well contracts wnd getting used to it also lack of f row in 60he would crucial why they did not buy 60he

[silk hedge]

Well cs2 is a shitshow and what's keeping the game alive is gambling i've distanced myself from cs a long time ago

[thick lichen]

Most of the people reaching out are in Valorant scene. Word of mouth just done a shitload I bet. Apex and CS hasn't picked up too much of that, or aren't bothered much to change yet as they feel the current setup provides them with plenty

[sage reef]

more like boomer mentality too I guess

[thick lichen]

I feel like most of the pro-players don't care much either.

[lime falcon]

true, thats what i said cs pros will definitely play on 5$ membrane kb and they will be ok

[thick lichen]

Most don't know much about their keebs

[low token]

Well cs scene is used to their setup. Propably if contract allowed them get diffrent brand keeb

[lime falcon]

CS pro scene is full of boomers lol

[thick lichen]

Compared to Valorant, definitely seems like that haha

[low token]

Not for long

[buoyant solstice]

A game that is decades old has old players?

https://tenor.com/view/shocker-shocked-futurama-im-shocked-gif-5296191

[lime falcon]

i hope lol

[stuck fossil]

cs pro scene always been insanly slow to adapt to anything new and its only there for some reason

[low token]

It includes cs.1.6 and source so atleast 20yrs+

[buoyant solstice]

Yes I do believe that's literally what decades, plural infers 😄

[low token]

Well unless logitech wnd others put rt. They will not do it

[lime falcon]

[lime falcon]

if logitech makes rt keyboards im pretty sure most pros wont even touch it because its SOMETHING NEW

how can i use SOMETHING NEW no i cant

[low token]

Getting advantage

Tho having 2w - month worse performance due to rt keeb is bad

[tight cypress]

Oh irony

[jolly tangle]

[low token]

Google search ia based on you tho

[sage reef]

Valorant has a seemingly small but effectively very big issue for me, you kill people with weapons like 30% too fast for it to be very skill-based, too much luck involved this way.
I would have probably played it if this was addressed. The whole game ruined mostly by this for me.

[tight cypress]

That's on work laptop though, I'm not logged in there with my personal* account

[lime falcon]

oh its n4

[thick lichen]

getting there, ayyy

[low token]

How much it is t1

[lime falcon]

first is huntsman v3 pro

[thick lichen]

I bet the 80HE will make a bit of a splash. Most CS players wouldn't want to swap, as they would miss their F-row

[lime falcon]

i think t1 t2?

[thick lichen]

And Two HE was too biggie

[low token]

Tier one is only important

[lime falcon]

Definitely, 80HE will be top2 if its my guess

[lime falcon]

no its not, in cs t2 is also big

[low token]

So propably if 80he will be released it could be keyboard for t1 cs2 in 2025-6

[sage reef]

well don't they know they can bind Fn to like Caps Lock, and basically have F row

but they probably use Caps Lock too (and you can't bind Fn alone in games)

[midnight iron]

the true value sponsorship for wooting would be SEN Zellsis. He already tweets about wanting a wooting with f row/arrows

[low token]

I never hear about t2 tho. Only t1

[midnight iron]

i actually wonder how many brands are considering sponsoring him after they saw how much he promoted the sen bundle

[lime falcon]

lol

no comments

[lime falcon]

i mean it sucks using 2 keys to throw a nade

[sage reef]

I thought they used it for something else, but that's bad yeah

[low token]

Well it is required for some lineups it you want perfect jump trow

[sage reef]

best upcoming gaming kb (for valorant players only ofc) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1220134265849774091/1220134266508415006/Wooting_44HE.png?ex=660dd596&is=65fb6096&hm=8b0fc0c6d194a1f6d20fc4e4e94a4561954406febc13b0f47dd56be0b126b8cb&

[lime falcon]

hell nah

[pseudo parrot]

I feel you would miaclick a lot due to the keys on the left

[sage reef]

don't think so, also put them a bit further apart than is done with exploded kbs now

[buoyant solstice]

Does your hand often travel outside of the left edge of the WASD area?

[nova nexus]

I read that as "miac-lick" and was very confused

[pseudo parrot]

Oh typo lol

[nova nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/baldursgate-bg3-baldurs-gate-3-gale-gale-dekarios-gif-15652203506140272587

[sage reef]

also see how good it is to use ESDF here (except a bit the Shift)
Ctrl placement here is not accidental, as you can easily reach it from ESDF (home row) position.
(test now, place hand on ESDF and try reaching your Ctrl, how uncomfortable this is)

[buoyant solstice]

mm salty

[pseudo parrot]

Not so much when gaming but even some light typing I’d expect to do with any board

But yes my hand travels outside of the wasd area occasionally

[sage reef]

that kb would also be marketed as "ESDF" somewhere pretty prominently, since it has many benefits.

[pseudo parrot]

Preference I guess

[jaunty panther]

cerakeys on wooting80, thoughts anyone?

[fallen epoch]

Go crazy

[sweet skiff]

best upcoming gaming kb (for valorant players only ofc)

[open rivet]

why the hate so big for val players here

[low token]

E daters and dead pro scene

[open rivet]

but what has it to do with the keyboard haha

[fallen epoch]

Yes

[lime falcon]

Yes

[midnight iron]

It’s just older crowd + cs/eu folk

[open rivet]

okok

[half juniper]

he80 support direct express delivery to China?

[midnight iron]

The irony being valorant is one of the largest growing segments for wooting

[open rivet]

me being a val palyer too

lol but i also play cs

[midnight iron]

Does it offer ups/fed ex? If it does then that’s their express shipping normally - you can see delivery speed in the checkout

[open rivet]

im thinking about buying the 80he but i dont really get the diffrence of the keycaps

[midnight iron]

it's just preference

pbt shines less quickly if you're worried about wear

[open rivet]

wdym shines

[midnight iron]

when abs keycaps get used they get surface wear/shine over time

[woven drum]

through normal use finger oils and such

[half juniper]

@midnight ironfedex working In here i guess

[open rivet]

ahhh

[tight cypress]

Buy smooth and pre-shined

[proper dew]

when is the league of legends edition coming out?

[fallen epoch]

So no keyboard?

[lime falcon]

its the same

[tight cypress]

One button - alternates between Alt+Click and Ctrl+Click in loop as long as it is held

[fallen epoch]

If released you type in all chat where you are

[proper dew]

I want rappy snappy to help me INT my league games in a rappy snappy manner as well

[tight cypress]

Ditch this piece of shit game
I'm way happier now since when I did

[fallen epoch]

Then you can modify the release function to do so

But yes please ditch that game

[icy charm]

Guten Morgen

[fallen epoch]

Have a friend that played it, wont stop referencing it even though he literally cant play it anymore

Its controlled him

[unreal ice]

hey

guys i wanna know what improved of 60he

[buoyant solstice]

https://wooting.io/wooting-80he

[unreal ice]

i brought one but i will receive it on July