i missed this at the bottom of the blood moon rises blog
#Winter Summit
snow fulcrum
boreal karma
JAPAN
terse wadi
light zodiac
boreal karma
surely eastern lands this decade
terse wadi
That's the other side of the world hoofers
snow fulcrum
body horror vampyre human slavery blood farm ghettos wasn't dark enough
terse wadi
There do be dragontooth island off the coast
snow fulcrum
That's the other side of the world hoofers
south is a border!
livid mauve
There do be dragontooth island off the coast
dock there, save 10 ectotokens
boreal karma
or more likely a trip to the ecto because you cleared out your tokens last time u cleaned the bank
snow fulcrum
didnt pay for perm access 
livid mauve
forestry part XIV!
terse wadi
Lot of stuff we knew about but the contents were still great
snow fulcrum
was expecting a lil more but whatever
terse wadi
League and a Raid in the same year do be
oh
yama inc
oh no that's just jad
cool plush
snow fulcrum
yeah i just mean like maybe some filler content idk
south edge
ironmen thinking theyre gonna use bis arrows
snow fulcrum
delaying doom till summer
astral basin
ironmen thinking theyre gonna use bis arrows
i mean you just have to chop some trees
snow fulcrum
insane ranged powercreep
uneven plinth
ironmen thinking theyre gonna use bis arrows
blog says just afk wc for them no?
snow fulcrum
astral basin
how hard is that going to be
astral basin
delaying doom till summer
fr lol
sacred relic
rip everyone who pre-made their arrows though
light zodiac
ironmen thinking theyre gonna use bis arrows
it comes from afk wc so yeah probably
south edge
yea ur gonna get the arrowshafts but u gotta do vorkath or whatever for arrowheads
light zodiac
rip everyone who pre-made their arrows though <:kekw:639576336603676673>
you can use it on them iirc
sacred relic
15 arrows per resource instead of the 150 or whatever redwood is
terse wadi
er
unborn portal
dont u still need to add tips?
astral basin
yea ur gonna get the arrowshafts but u gotta do vorkath or whatever for arrowhea...
how is this any different than how i was getting arrows before lol
snow fulcrum
they will have multiple options similar to oathplate smithing vera
meager osprey
you should have to read the blogs and answer a quiz before youre allowed to type here
south edge
im just jesting
uneven plinth
rip everyone who pre-made their arrows though <:kekw:639576336603676673>
nah it still works
terse wadi
gotcha
sacred relic
nah it still works
costs significantly more to make than if you use it on logs
astral basin
its generous that they even let you upgrade the existing arrows at all
terse wadi
oh boy they're making more environmental things that just stab you in vampyrium like draynor trees
snow fulcrum
the answer is in here somewhere :D
livid mauve
I just read up on the seeker arrows
this might be strong enough to make manual arrow fletching legit
those buffs are huge
livid mauve
wait +3 str?
snow fulcrum
oh and the accu from angui > pursuit
sacred relic
the accuracy is absurd
snow fulcrum
wait +3 str?
keep reading
astral basin
wait +3 str?
hes talking about the new necklace
livid mauve
ok
glad tundra
I'm shocked they're only buffing arrows and not bolts
south edge
what is manual arrow fletching
terse wadi
bolts just got the hopper duhhhhhh
sacred relic
I'm shocked they're only buffing arrows and not bolts
crossbows can suck a fat dick apparently
uneven plinth
+30 range accuracy +3 range strength for tbow
terse wadi
The hunter activity being a 2 parter is kinda cool
sacred relic
inb4 tbow beats cbow at nex again
light zodiac
dont forget the 3 prayer bonus!!!!!!1
terse wadi
box trap up bait to use to get the birds
uneven plinth
this is more of a relative boost than the nex crossbow weakness
so i think tbow will flat out win? but it would be breakpoint dependent
sacred relic
depends how afk the birds are
snow fulcrum
+2 min hits too
sacred relic
they're lower xp/hr
terse wadi
In terms of XP, the more active box-trapping stage is intended to offer XP rates comparable to Red Chinchompas, with the Stymphike luring phase offering slightly lower rates in exchange for a more relaxed, AFK-friendly experience.
yeah
livid mauve
leechfin sandwich looks really strong as a food, but probably very slow to get for irons
sacred relic
leechfin is so weird that I have no idea how gamebreaking vs gimmicky and unusable it is
terse wadi
can anything dethrone the true one king bwan
sacred relic
like we don't bother with antelope atm
uneven plinth
32hp/ slot is a lot a lot
glad tundra
Melee-only food is kinda weird
sacred relic
don't think we bother with the sailing fish either right now?
not sure on that meta
sacred relic
and yeah the melee is interesting and weird
terse wadi
huh it do be weird that it is only melee
sacred relic
waiting for vw to make it proc instantly though
terse wadi
the spec wep?
ig?
it very much sounds like it's all meant to make you just murdering vampyres with as much damage and healing as needed
livid mauve
ok the crimson bludgeon looks interesting but needs to be calculated
it seems good to me at first glance but I could be very wrong
snow fulcrum
its just crush claws
uneven plinth
ok the crimson bludgeon looks interesting but needs to be calculated
only 2-3 people can do that
sacred relic
yeah, as with all spec weapons it needs to be calcd
bclaws especially make things weird with the two attack styles
terse wadi
I just really want a drakan repeatable but I think it might not be happening
snow fulcrum
doesnt sound like it but sounds they'll make him the hardest quest boss to date atleast
terse wadi
that works ig
snow fulcrum
which is def deserved and i prefer they keep it like that rather than diminish him being op as fuck by being repeatable
like oh yeah i finally killed the big bad
nope hes back
glad tundra
Nah it's just Phantom Drakan
snow fulcrum
maybe the other boss will have some of his mechanics though
glad tundra
Angry ghost
terse wadi
or like vorkath
snow fulcrum
that'd prob be a good way to do it
snow fulcrum
yeah thats fair
terse wadi
Drakan ends up captured instead of killed. We act as his torturers as vanesquela watches
Wyrmscraig or Gnome.. hrm
snow fulcrum
snow fulcrum
most hype for the unique animation of making an amulet of pursuit
terse wadi
your character just spawns in a wrestlign ring and elbow slams the amulets together from the rope
That island maker def made that for their D&D campaign
light zodiac
apparently tbow with the new range upgrades will be bis at maiden 
terse wadi
yama inc
uneven plinth
than the accuracy given you 0 her
terse wadi
light zodiac
and the 2 min hits
bright granite
apparently tbow with the new range upgrades will be bis at maiden <a:Classic:128...
even if it's a couple % better dps it will not be used there
uneven plinth
mess up procs or something?
light zodiac
you wouldn't need any more switches afaik
bright granite
you wouldn't need any more switches afaik
has nothing to do with switches
light zodiac
whats the reason then?
bright granite
consistent dps good
do some tob with scythers procing and bowers and you will see a difference immediately
light zodiac
well i guess it will be nice for irons pre scythe
sly moth
the live rewinds on twitch are great
car just got stuck in the snow pulling into the drive so missed like 45 mins
some russian dude helped dig me out
bright granite
well i guess it will be nice for irons pre scythe
bow before scy 
anguish buff good for pipe anyways
light zodiac
bow before scy <:spafki:847175949166706748>
miracles can happen i guess
ebon nexus
glad tundra
DPS on nex with new gear but not the 2 minimum from stalker arrows. Assumes max (dragon arrows) and lightbearer until the last which is venator ring
ebon nexus
cow shearer real 
livid mauve
DPS on nex with new gear but not the 2 minimum from stalker arrows. Assumes max ...
as a cheat you can simulate the increased min hit by increasing the max hit by +2 instead, its the same on average (but not for overkill)
kindred hazel
also ya, freezing in a human team for maiden is amazing QOL
ebon nexus
what is "stalk"
glad tundra
Wait they're seeker arrows not stalker arrows
ebon nexus
yeah
glad tundra
Sorry rs3 has stalker arrows
kindred hazel
theres no info on how abundant the new arrow attachment will be right
south edge
what is this cow boss
glad tundra
as a cheat you can simulate the increased min hit by increasing the max hit by +...
Is 1 flat armour equivalent? That'll be easier
dim linden
what is this cow boss
F2p boss for about 15 attack and 15 strength. But also a hard mode which is apparently unbeatable at the jagex creator event last week
livid mauve
Is 1 flat armour equivalent? That'll be easier
yeah very similar
-1 flat armour then, right?
livid mauve
theres no info on how abundant the new arrow attachment will be right
nah they list wc xp but not tree sap rate, but since it can be applied to logs before cutting into shafts you can stretch it out a lot by cutting redwoods into arrow shafts
one redwood = 105 arrow shafts
bright granite
bad rng if you used your arrowheads ig?
livid mauve
or even if you already made the shafts tbh
you can still use it on arrows or arrowshafts but 15/piece then
snow fulcrum
tbh theres no way that arrow shit passes as is right..
kindred hazel
ok since they are fitted to arrowheads, i cant attach them to already made arrows?
bright granite
well you probably won't use it on every arrowhead you own
but every dragon arrow probably
livid mauve
Is 1 flat armour equivalent? That'll be easier
wait im dumb, moving the min hit does very little, it doesnt shift the rest around
so the impact is way way lower than 1 armour
its very minor really
kindred hazel
cuz i was gonna ask if u just only use the new modded arrows from now on
dependsing on how fast tehyare to get
livid mauve
the accuracy is still huge but the min hit thing isnt tremendous
snow fulcrum
its basically a quiver in terms of dps no
for anything that isnt a tbow
seems crazy
livid mauve
idk I only read the blog, but it seems strong
tbf we dont really fire arrows other than tbow
kindred hazel
its just scobo and tbow ya
bright granite
tbow and scobow
livid mauve
yeah
kindred hazel
the accuracy wil lbe rly relevant in max gear cm, since ur hitting like 70% accurate nukes
ebon sonnet
i wonder what the interaction is between min-hit weapons and doom grubs is - eg if you can use venator bow to one-hit them now instead of needing scobo
livid mauve
lets reasonably say your bow maxes a 50, assuming scobow. Low I guess but w/e
livid mauve
hitting a 1 or a 2 is then 2% each, and you gain +2 damage on hitting a 1 and +1 damage on hitting a 2, for an average of +0.06 damage
uneven plinth
tbow in general is strong and inaccurate
kindred hazel
ya tbow loves accuracy
livid mauve
compared to an average of 25 per hit, thats... 0.24%
kindred hazel
big reason why current trio cm meta is shadow mystics
its similar dps but more accurate
livid mauve
so yeah itd be pretty much only the accuracy that matters
the min hit thing is a rounding error
snow fulcrum
yeah they look busted im surprised if they will pass as is
sacred relic
you think the average voter will think them being this busted is a bad thing?
snow fulcrum
also 3 forms of upkeep for venator bow gonna go hard
sacred relic
these 100% pass as-is
light zodiac
do these arrows change anything for low level bows like msb?
granted it probably won't be viable to use them for low level stuff supply wise
snow fulcrum
depends on how they do the min hit
sacred relic
unlikely given the difficulty requirement, but it's possible
snow fulcrum
faster weapons like flat damage
snow fulcrum
oh and the accuracy is also big for faster inaccurate stuff ofc
livid mauve
dark bow 
snow fulcrum
but then again prob wont be gamechanging
light zodiac
giving 23 accuracy to a 75 accuracy weapon seems pretty big but idk if it has any implications is the issue.
snow fulcrum
also lets not forget they said it will be the hardest quest pvm to date and will require multiple 70+ skills
i doubt you will be really looking to improve your msb at that point
livid mauve
i doubt you will be really looking to improve your msb at that point
I think on an efficient progression this is a joke but for many players it just might be the truth
snow fulcrum
idk they have been really pushing the quest bosses lately
but yeah who knows
maybe they actually make one that you wont be able to dscim/rcb ruby
oh actually you will probably use the flail
livid mauve
well its a vampire boss youre using the new flail
yeah
and its 4t and scales a lot with str bonus
snow fulcrum
well i'll see
livid mauve
so that puts low levels on the back foot
snow fulcrum
probably good couple months out for now atleast
livid mauve
absolutely, they said summer
light zodiac
probably post leagues
snow fulcrum
time to see what reddit thinks about only lategame content
livid mauve
sorry, I think that +2 max is totally misleading
better to remove it entirely
I messed up
livid mauve
I think just ignore the min hit thing entirely
it wont be more than 0.5% off or w/e
if I understand the mechanic correctly this time around
tulip bramble
depends how they do it right?
livid mauve
yeah
its a bit unclear, but when introducing the min hit of 1 rather than 0 they just turned all 0 hits into 1 hits
doubling the frequency of hitting exactly 1
glad tundra
Surely it'll work like sunfire runes
livid mauve
if this is the same, all 0-2 rolls get shifted into 3, it's going to only make a very minor dent
tulip bramble
yeah hard to say what their intention is from the blog
but I'd assume they want it to be a real buff, idk
livid mauve
well the weaker you are the bigger this buff
livid mauve
also 3t shortbows gain more from the min hit floor than 4t or 5t or slower weapons
livid mauve
otherwise it's about the same to add a min and a max hit
if it redefines the roll range its about +1 flat hit, or -1 armour on all enemies yeah
but I think its more likely that hitting exactly '3' will be 4x as common as any other nr
and its still a 0-max roll but the bottom 0-3 gets fused into 3
snow fulcrum
allegedly
livid mauve
yeah all speculation
bright granite
if it redefines the roll range its about +1 flat hit, or -1 armour on all enemie...
well rolling 1-40 or 0-41 is about the same on average
unless the hp of the target is low
livid mauve
yes thats what I said
if that's how it works its about +1 flat hit, or +2 maxes, or -1 armour
terse wadi
They said in the blog you could multiply the sap you get from wc using drops from the new monsters. Wonder how much that is gonna change the economy of it for us.
astral basin
id be shocked if they just made you roll a bunch of 3's, i dont think theres precedent for that
osmumtens fang works properly
terse wadi
Bit lore nerdy but I wonder if Azzy is looking in the archives for a replacement for the frostenhorn
glad tundra
On a meta level absolutely not
That's the difference between osrs and rs3 lore where zaros starts to return
novel oriole
Really dislike that they are spending even more time on sailing in 2026, we could have so much better content instead of them going back and fixing up the stuff they missed
terse wadi
I mean even with the horn they’d need the edicts down for that
Horn was just to help contact iirc
But fair that they likely don’t want even that succeeding
novel oriole
They are going to "fox" combat which has no real use, safespotting krakens isnt combat
latent saffron
historically "min hit x" has compressed 0-x to x in temp modes e.g. grid
terse wadi
They’re doing combat changes so that they can actually release interesting sailing combat
snow fulcrum
Really dislike that they are spending even more time on sailing dmm leagues raids pvp pvm skilling cow bosses in 2026, we could have so much better content instead of them going back and fixing up the stuff they missed
novel oriole
They already have an intresting combat system
Have already spent alot of time on sailinga and the combat is still bad; just stick to what works instead of throwing more hours after sailing combat
snow fulcrum
you should read the blog, what they have proposed for now are def good changes
terse wadi
We already have so many interesting items we should stop making more
bright granite
nah that's bait lol
glad tundra
Lmao
zenith eagle
cow boss was a game jam project and is basically already done
zenith eagle
and tbh i really like their direction of making engaging combat more of a thing in the early game
ive always disliked that this game turns from click and wait to dance dance revolution suddenly after like 1k hours
novel oriole
Dunno, the whole "fix sailing combat node" feels like its not really going to add anything intresting or relevant to the game, I would pref they just kept the dates on the Vampire quest line
dim linden
Really dislike that they are spending even more time on content I don't like when instead they could be working on content I do like
novel oriole
are people going to "like" sailing combat post update?
dim linden
If they do something interesting why not? Do people like non-sailing combat?
novel oriole
maby i misread the blog, from what i could tell were just going to safespot krakens with 2 cannons instead of 1 and otherwise everything is about the same
livid mauve
are people going to "like" sailing combat post update?
yeah
terse wadi
Cballs also changing to be fully separate from dwarf cannon to allow a better avenue for cball creation
snow fulcrum
thats what they have planned short term yes
bright granite
blog seems good, this is just bad bait lol
novel oriole
I mean witout a boss or something to use the cannon on does it really matter?
novel oriole
Were not going to craft rune c-balls to use on sapespotted krakens
Where is the boss on the roadmap?
snow fulcrum
bad bait but im hungry
zenith eagle
thank god then they can fix the colors of iron and steel cballs not matching with the bars
novel oriole
or are we fixing now for 2027?
terse wadi
Yeah man 2026 things can affect things in 2027 is that a problem? Lmfao. You’d be looking at the area expansion for shit like that.
livid mauve
speaking of low tier bait, they're adding new at-sea regular fishing spots
I think that's really thematic
zenith eagle
sounds cozy tbh
terse wadi
That’s also potentially nice for offcuts so you can stay out at sea?
Idk much about trawling
livid mauve
sail out to musa point and catch lobbies from your sloop
terse wadi
They gotta
livid mauve
trawling doesnt consume that many offcuts, and has ways to go infinite
terse wadi
Ah damn
bitter moat
Cow boss is hype
Gotta get that bottomless milk bucket
terse wadi
Great idea for a reward lmfao
bitter moat
So op with poh larder
snow fulcrum
trawling doesnt consume that many offcuts, and has ways to go infinite
crab hunting does
terse wadi
Crab hunting meta you heard it here folks
snow fulcrum
but yeah in this case its prob more of a cute integration with the rest of the game thing
terse wadi
I’ll take that
Easy addition
Having enemy boats and fishing spots. Inching closer to sailing dream state
snow fulcrum
Crab hunting meta you heard it here folks
you're not gonna believe this
snow fulcrum
you need to hunt crabs for the new pot secondaries which are looking like very solid herb xp
terse wadi
And is the hunting itself decent enough that all together it is a relatively efficient thing?
Oh it’s the arma brew secondary
Hm
glad tundra
160k hunter and you can either chill or thiev chests/fletch/alch
snow fulcrum
just not enough volume to be anything other than supplementary to current methods
also you dont get good pots
terse wadi
Interesting
Wait not good pots? Are arma bees not good or am I misunderstanding
Brews
glad tundra
Duo nex pretty much the only use
(In significant amounts)
Can be cute and bring 1 to doom or zuk to repot
snow fulcrum
as in, usable pots
uneven plinth
Duo nex pretty much the only use
range pot alternative sometimes
terse wadi
Damn the Reddit megathread was a lot more negative than I expected
glad tundra
range pot alternative sometimes
Is there anyone besides doom/zuk that you had a non-divine and not hybrid use case?
light zodiac
Damn the Reddit megathread was a lot more negative than I expected
Reddit really isn't happy tfa isn't designed to be soloable
glad tundra
Wah
light zodiac
on reddit only .1% of players do tob
snow fulcrum
they are also whining about HD and mobile plugin api
light zodiac
was it delayed or something
snow fulcrum
for HD iirc the latest update was that the renderer needs more work
was like 1-2 months ago?
mobile no clue, but the guy in charge left jagex a while ago
Gengis, you may remember him from last summit as the really enthusiastic mobile guy
light zodiac
i see
snow fulcrum
so prob in disarray
light zodiac
that reminds me of the fossil island guy
snow fulcrum
they didnt mention anythingabout it at all this summit so im guessing a bunch of mobile andies thinking they got the cold shoulder
terse wadi
Reddit really isn't happy tfa isn't designed to be soloable
Gotcha. I’m not the most happy about it but it says it’s possible. Plus you gotta give the group gamers some love too yknow
I likely won’t get to farm it ever really unless I change how I play
snow fulcrum
but imo who really cares you have OSHD and 117 and just buy a laptop for plugins cmon bruh
light zodiac
i mean cox wasn't designed to be soloable and its one of the best solo bosses in the game imo. I wonder where tfa falls on the scale of yama to hard mode theatre in soloability
snow fulcrum
i do think the year looks kinda meager at the start but knowing blood moon rises is going to be a priff lvl update if not bigger im cool with a bit of a dry spell
indigo kettle
Reddit really isn't happy tfa isn't designed to be soloable
first mistake is listening to anyone on reddit about game updates
light zodiac
first mistake is listening to anyone on reddit about game updates
I've played this game long enough to know the common pain points. I don't listen to the opinions, I just observe them.
terse wadi
i do think the year looks kinda meager at the start but knowing blood moon rises...
Yeah leagues in April is filling a lot of the hype space for me
indigo kettle
ya im just poking fun
terse wadi
We also don’t really know where some of the other things are being slotted ig
Gotta get that cow boss out yo
zenith eagle
I'm really happy with a gm quest, league and new raid in a single year
Questing is my favourite part of the game and doing blood moon day 1 no guides will be epic
Them recommending 110cb looks kinda nutty tho
If the quest boss is as hard as that suggests getting quest cape might become much harder from now on
terse wadi
Yeah very excited for the quest itself
ivory totem
wonder what they're gonna do to make it hard. A step above the DT2 bosses maybe? Comparable to CG with no armor?
snow fulcrum
they said it will be the hardest quest pvm to date
boreal karma
what is the hardest quest boss right now?
snow fulcrum
i think whisperer generally kicks peoples asses for a bit
glad tundra
Seren, galvek, dt2 4 bosses
ivory totem
galvek was more an rng check for me
snow fulcrum
wights at lower stats
ivory totem
just bolt proc lottery
snow fulcrum
galvek and seren arent really hard
zenith eagle
isnt seren pretty much just a dps race if you dont do pneck cheese
astral basin
seren is just a test of do you have enough healing
ivory totem
whisperer took me the most tries vs all the others taking me 3 each
zenith eagle
seren is simpler than vanstrom klause mechanically
ivory totem
the final wight fight at dt2 is bullshit tho if you haven't dealt with ti
snow fulcrum
yeah i hear whisperer generally kicks most 'noobs' asses for a while
or wights at lower stats
ivory totem
vanstrom's a very close third among all this
light zodiac
the final wight fight at dt2 is bullshit tho if you haven't dealt with ti
agreed. It was harder than any of the quest versions of the dt2 bosses imo
ivory totem
kasonde is the fucking worst.
yee-yee ass center room boom mf
so honestly wights > whisperer > other dt2 bosses/vanstrom/balance elemental > galvek > seren
boreal karma
I think vard would be the hardest if they didnt make it brute forceable
i ate every single axe when I did it lmao
ivory totem
yeah i could never actually do the range pray flick
wasn't mechanically good enough to do that
axe dodges was finet ho
terse wadi
I can’t remember which one I had the most issue with and it’s only been a few months lmfao
uneven plinth
thrall quest boss
ivory totem
nowadays i could just tent whip his ass down and probably pick the fight up after a few deaths at worst
uneven plinth
i died to it in max
zenith eagle
im looking forward to doing no guide dt2
uneven plinth
'because i didnt know how it worked
light zodiac
the wights also tax your supplies if you don't know what you're doing
ivory totem
Xamphur
snow fulcrum
xamphur was super easy
terse wadi
I think I had more issues with Xamphur than Whisperer or Vardovis only because I was so much worse when I did Xamphur
I apparently had fun with the dt2 quest bosses like a sicko
snow fulcrum
id prob still pick whisp because of insanity you just have to get good at it and cant really bruteforce it
ivory totem
duke was only hard because i couldn't get into rhythm at first
terse wadi
Yeah idk how I first tried whisperer. Dumb luck
ivory totem
i solved whisperer's enrage with the long-tested strategy of
terse wadi
And boss guides ofc
ivory totem
running around like a headless chicken
boreal karma
took me 2 tries, I did it with bowfa first time lol
ivory totem
avoiding 95% of the water slaps
terse wadi
I found whisperer pretty fun actually lmfao
But I probably won’t feel that way with the real one
ivory totem
i still struggle to keep up with movement and the 2t prayer flicks during levi enrage so i usually hope to kill him fast and usually make sure to be near it's spawn
snow fulcrum
from a lore standpoint drakan will prob be the most powerful smella we've faced so i doubt they want him to be a pushover in any capacity
well maybe yama but he holds back on purpose
ivory totem
even on grid master bonuses those radiant contracts were awful lmao
i have no idea how people actually run these. Too much to track and do all at once. Some of the enhancements aren't too bad (have to actually time your sigil use), some... oof
bright granite
on gridmaster you legit just clicked the boss and it was dead
light zodiac
tbow gridmaster was ez af
im pretty sure one of the contracts was easier than base yama since it made tbow hit like a truck
ivory totem
yea
uneven plinth
judge of yama?
the blue one not the demon one
idk what happened and then it was hitting me every tick and i died
brazen herald
from a lore standpoint drakan will prob be the most powerful smella we've faced ...
I hope it's like Nomad fight where people really struggled the first few weeks because they had low summoning
glad tundra
Talon beast go brrr
modest shell
just saw this thought it was interesting
also apparently tbow will beat scythe at maiden now to
bright granite
also apparently tbow will beat scythe at maiden now to
This changes nothinf
Tbowing maiden as freezers still bis. As non freezers still bad
modest shell
ye idk hm of it will play out but ive always thought tbow was very slept on
these changes seem to do alot for bow esp
bright granite
No it sounds godawful
It would need to be like much better DPS to even consider
Right now scy is like 1℅ better on paper but actually doing it is misery
modest shell
ye i just meant in general how viable itd all be like not just tob uses but all new ones
tbowing most of colo npcs to as an example sounds to crazy
sacred relic
tbowing full colo beating out scythe is wild
still bringing the swap for sol obviously, but not having to do 8 way switches is a massive plus
kindred hazel
Prolly no need to bring stuff like sra or fang for tob if u have a tbow then, and can be asked to use those arrows
Full max void Darrows beats max sra on sote with 1 or 2 mauls (idr which) and landing specs is pretty consistent now
ebon nexus
Shadow camp meta but with bow now
Seercull/Accursed Sceptre every boss on 416 for guaranteed max MVP points!
livid mauve
idk about who but tears of guthix tps went way up in price a few hours before winter summit I think
livid mauve
? probably not it then
south edge
tbf the sweaty mercher discords prolly know the item already and are just buying it up now
tomorrow / day after maybe leak it and redditoids buy it up, driving value even higher and the merchers keep winning
sacred relic
I'm pretty sure either the blog or video stated you need bread, leech, and fish chunks (whatever the bait item is called)
uneven plinth
I see a crab, so no
boreal karma
ill tldr you in like 20min
uneven plinth
The dps sigils can only be applied by one person at a time, so gem crab is bad
I can tldr for you that this guy is clueless just off the thumbnail tbh
boreal karma
toxic D:
uneven plinth
Sorry but just keeping it real
Might as well not install rig ranger or menace mage
boreal karma
yeah idk 30min at the crab in first hour is kinda crazy work lol
uneven plinth
Sorry he's much worse than clueless
terse wadi
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Guide:DMM:_Annihilation_1-60_bracket_tank_guide_by_Laef
Is this one anything of worth for points gettin
or are points prob easier blasting through brackets for level points
uneven plinth
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Guide:DMM:_Annihilation_1-60_bracket_tank_gui...
No
50 and 60 cb are way different
50 you were unkillable 60 you'll get rolled imo
Purge staff ice blitz conf gauntlets etc
terse wadi
So locking at 50 would keep me far safer while I get up all those breach points?
ebon nexus
The dps sigils can only be applied by one person at a time, so gem crab is bad
Ruthless Ranger and Menacing Mage? They shouldn't give xp, looking at how burn and poison work in the game
terse wadi
Welp I'll try to find a different guide for low-pvp 24k points
uneven plinth
Ruthless Ranger and Menacing Mage? They shouldn't give xp, looking at how burn a...
They do
At least they used to
uneven plinth
So locking at 50 would keep me far safer while I get up all those breach points?
No
50 last year was tank friendly
60 bracket is much less so
shut forum
full speed blitz into last bracket gigachad
ebon nexus
At least they used to
Oh weird
south edge
ok
if anyone fidns a good guide lmk
gonna be at work for three days but id like to get dmm crystal
ty kings
i love u all
dim linden
Faux is making one
sly moth
if anyone fidns a good guide lmk
check pins in #1437548510718459934
south edge
ty kang
oh thay says breach 1
im not gonna go breach 1 but
prolly gonna be fine right
sly moth
prolly gonna be fine right
you not able to get on on time? Its nbd if so. You can try to use a 1 hour immunity guide instead like Faux's as cooper recommended
south edge
ye
did faux make a video or what
im working 12h shift in the coal mines tmrw
(kitchen)
sly moth
did faux make a video or what
ye, he's got a vid that's specifically how to use your one hour of protection
south edge
yeeeee
is doubleshiens guide like meme tier
last year his dmm guides got me the cosmetics i wanted
sly moth
I haven't seen it but its probably fine
Strong execution will be more important than picking the perfect guide
unborn dagger
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Guide:DMM:_Annihilation_1-60_bracket_tank_gui...
yo i ended up getting 96k pts using that build 😆 wasnt dogshit after all
snow fulcrum
holy necro