Deadman Annihilation - 30 Jan 2026

[gleaming hornet]

3-4k

[tender ruin]

holy east zeah is scary af

[gleaming hornet]

yeah you go multi a few times

[tender ruin]

random fence? enjoy being in multi asshat

[gleaming hornet]

way too spread out and multi

and theres one tree that pushes you to multi

as you run west

[rough plinth]

[tender ruin]

spead out is good that means uptime

[rough plinth]

W east zeah

[gleaming hornet]

i got a few trinkets and like 9 archaic emblems

[heavy yoke]

anyone know current cap? 55k?

[proud geyser]

damn thralls and ruinous prayer op

[gleaming hornet]

i picked up a advanced wep on the ground lol

from a death pile

[rough plinth]

ya 55k cap rn

[gleaming hornet]

even in static areas like al kharid/canifis its good still

[fleet solstice]

Loot!

[gleaming hornet]

plop a cannon there and whatnot

i get like 8k pts

[quick field]

I missed a lot of points not having magic

[proud geyser]

are breaches going to keep going until the end of dmm

[tender ruin]

3 min past breach

[rough plinth]

i was just running around here

[quick field]

Ye

[rough plinth]

was kinda goated

[gleaming hornet]

i was doing the same

[quick field]

Frem island was solid but its been a bit too busy there and crossing the bridge takes ages

[rustic swan]

South frem ain't good anymore

[left coyote]

anyone interested in selling b4 gp? I'm down horrendous trying to pk at breach lol

[proud geyser]

Whats the best spot for breach?

I felt like varlamore was really good

[proper trench]

man I got the worst trinket

darn

[oblique oracle]

this was good!

[quick field]

Varlamore is generally the best but even that has been getting busier

[rustic swan]

I like the super packed breaches if I'm not on mobile

[gleaming hornet]

for me its

[rustic swan]

Lova, outer Fortis varla, Otis farm varla

[quick field]

Ya those breaches are giga bad on mobile

[gleaming hornet]

al kharid/varlamore/catherby at the farm patch

and canifis

[quick field]

I havent done a tight one on pc in awhile

[gleaming hornet]

i always get like 7-8k pts

[full epoch]

smh missed the breach thought it was 40 mins left 💀

[cold forge]

getting close to the cap

[gleaming hornet]

im doing breaches on alt too

im like 50% capped on alt

[twilit crater]

I can if you want sub 20m, not doing much with it

[left coyote]

sure, I just want to try and pk

I'm losing most of it quickly and I don't need main game gp

[twilit crater]

ultim8 kevin, currently 686 at ge

[fleet solstice]

I just send undead grasp since i'm on arceuus. I get points at the very least. Thralls probably carry quite hard

[proper trench]

I got a warped sceptre for those

[fleet solstice]

Good shout as well. Had a long dry spell of only ma2 and ended up using all my fire runes. So no thralls for 50% of the breach

Will just bring 16k runes in the future

[proper trench]

I had rune cb d bolts + warped sceptre only brought me up to white skull so I didnt get targeted

[warm wave]

Ok, now we are gaming for real

[proper trench]

too many ma2 bosses on breaches to not bring magic its crazy

you prefer consistency over ruthless ranger?

[fleet solstice]

Didn't get hit at all in this either. Seems so random sometimes

[warm wave]

I thought about it a lot

[fleet solstice]

I got hit all the time when I was in proper poverty

[warm wave]

ruthless ranger is in theory 2.25 damage per attack

but it deals it over time

and only on a successful hit

against the breach bosses that die extremely fast you will not make use of the damage that much

consistency also works when you "miss"

[fleet solstice]

Feel like ranged gains a lot from the accuracy one (rigourous ranger I think)

[cunning bluff]

It's way worse

As only one works at a time

[warm wave]

yeah, ruthless seems terrible

[cunning bluff]

So if there are 50 ruthless rangers you basically never proc yours

[proper trench]

I need 3k points to aggression

then 5k for ruinous

[warm wave]

oh yeah true

holy

yeah ruthless is garbage

[proper trench]

fair enough ill switch too

[warm wave]

I do wonder how impactful that +20 accuracy is from the other one tho

[proper trench]

u convinced me

[warm wave]

the ammo save is nice I guess?

but I already have enough gp for ammo

[proper trench]

I think on prot hour i might do webweaver + corrupted tumekens for b1 -> b2

so no gunslinger for that

[warm wave]

does anyone know btw if dragonstone bolts (e) will proc on consistency hits?

[proper trench]

hey I wonder

is aquanite hopper + consistency + ruthless + gunslinger an actual tactic

nahhh hopper is only a 11% chance to fire second arrow

nice try though

[late sedge]

aquanite hopper?

isnt that sailing locked

[gleaming hornet]

yeah lol

[proper trench]

oh

I forgot about that one

[rustic swan]

I've got like 6m spare DMM. What do I do with this to get me some free points?

I've got 99 prayer and herb on my list as potentials. Maybe construction?

[rough plinth]

cooking is fast if u do tai bwo wannai trio

[fossil steppe]

yeah wish there was a map or something, wiki really doesn't have much for dmm lol

south of fremmy ends up being all the way to seers basically

[cunning crest]

lol really, but i think if it was seers village instead people wouldnt really understand the scale

[civic pagoda]

i keep forgetting to log in for breaches

[quick field]

I have mixed feelings on the lack of breech info

Not knowing where stuff is can be frustrating but there's a strong competitive advantage to figuring it out without the masses knowing

If its on the wiki everyone will onow the good spots

[cunning crest]

yeah, only knowers know

still see like 10 people around north of sunset coast

[quick field]

I have really enjoyed crowd sourcing info and calls in this disc this year

[cunning crest]

before someone here called this spot i was like 30k pts behind the cap

and now im capped

[quick field]

Im taking credit for finding the varlamore spot

Really proud of that one

[cunning crest]

thank you, sir!

or madam sorry if im wrong

i’m new here

[rough plinth]

east zeah was rly good

if u dont mind going in multi

[quick field]

Last time I tried zeah I was under protection and couldn't attack anything in multi so I probably wrote it off too early

[rough plinth]

was aus world so maybe it was better than usual

[plain belfry]

What’s the appeal in going up in brackets? I feel like any pvm I can’t do with 1/60/80/80 I still wouldn’t be able to do with 40/60/95/95

[rough plinth]

dealing more dmg in breach

[warm wave]

Also maybe less people to contest with in breaches

[noble quail]

anyone got a good points guide to follow

[warm wave]

There is a pin for a starting guide, after that it’s just maximizing damage in breaches

[noble quail]

wicked ty

[twilit crater]

Starting guide is day one focused, swap rates are very generous now so that's a much faster way to progress now

[sullen chasm]

Share?

Can you just hop if it’s a bad location?

[quick field]

Ye

We try to scout all the b4 worlds

Some people check b2 and b3 as well

[sullen chasm]

South lumb swamp was so fucking bad

[cunning bluff]

Swap in like 30m

[sullen chasm]

I’m b1 but might hop

[cunning bluff]

Chin

Get 99 farm with bought sapling and nature relic

Get base 50

[quick field]

Varl is "south varlamore" and the spot is behind hunter guild near the shore/mountains

[cunning bluff]

Do breaches with gunslinger and rcb

[sullen chasm]

Bis relics for that? Gs/?/?

[cunning bluff]

Aggression gunslinger and doesn't matter

Thrall relic but it's a passive

I think consistency is probably better than either range relic if you have metic

[proper trench]

man it still takes ages to do crafting in dmm lol

[rustic swan]

I just did super glassmake to like 50

Was super quick

[proper trench]

that reqs lunar diplomacy no?

wait

yeah

[quick field]

Buyable from fremmy questline

Which also gets you neit helm

[kind bronze]

combat levels give fast points and you kill things faster

[left coyote]

B4 is giga full now

[proper trench]

I see

oh well I guess I did make some money from d hides at least

even tho it made me wanna pull my hair out lol

[cunning crest]

sote drove me crazy

[noble quail]

in the highest bracket? or does this work for any

[fossil steppe]

i'm doing that in b2 and get like 4k per breach with 92 range

[frozen lotus]

Just do hespori, it’s giga points

Rake into garden of death

Hespori is like best pph

Buy 20 Willow seeds, get a few hespori seeds from those, then do the trees from the hespori seeds , repeat

No

Over any other boss basically

Obor beats it

But that’s about it

But if you do 5 hespori, then do the tree seeds you got from those

You end up with more hespori seeds then you started with

[proper trench]

man its unfortunate

[frozen lotus]

And you just keep looping that

[proper trench]

I could use tbow for breach but b1 has so many raggers its insane

anything above white skull gets targeted

[frozen lotus]

I really hate this skull system bc there’s some sick items that feel unusable bc of the fake value

Fang and zombie axe are like the same price for example

[proper trench]

idk dude like

[frozen lotus]

But no one wants to use a fang

[proper trench]

why even have the skull system in the first place

[frozen lotus]

Well it was meant to help noobs not get killed risking nothing

[proper trench]

if someone wants to pk they will go find someone with expensive equipment anyway

[frozen lotus]

And help just progress their account

[proper trench]

green+ skull just invites raggers

[frozen lotus]

In past DMM , you just kill everyone

[proper trench]

honestly?

[frozen lotus]

And with no skull system you kill everyone

Well you got their bank

So yeah

[proper trench]

I think i might go unconventional this breach

[frozen lotus]

You kill everyone every time

[proper trench]

ill just get my alt to tag me the entire time

[frozen lotus]

Just don’t get caught , prob fine at a breach

That’s like the one thing they do ban for

[proper trench]

get -64 magic and autocast air thing or something

[proper trench]

what

[frozen lotus]

Saw someone do something at a deadman chest earlier

[proper trench]

thats bannable?

[frozen lotus]

Boxing, yeah

Like the only rule

No boxing no X logs

You will get banned if someone clips n sends it in

And they watch it, like if a streamer is trying to get you and you do that

It’s prob gg

[proper trench]

dmm is not worth getting my iron banned

guess im not doing it

[frozen lotus]

I saw someone do something techy at a chest earlier

They killled alt and same tick started looting

[bronze crater]

wait is Obor per kill instead of per chest loot LOL

[frozen lotus]

It’s per chest but it’s like 50% to get a key from each or something

1/3 from chest 1/3 from boss

[bronze crater]

oh key rate is boosted at both lol

[frozen lotus]

So you go in with like 15 keys and get 100 kc

[bronze crater]

funny stuff!

[frozen lotus]

And boosted from giants

So I guess looting chests cares if ur immune when ur start

It doesn’t stop you from looting if you become immune

[proper trench]

g9!!!! hi!!!!

[quick field]

I really like the idea of the skull system but its random what gives what skull. Like thrall trinket only gives Grey skull while zombie axe goes straight to green

This is one thing I'd like hashed out better for next year

[proper trench]

its the main GE values

[quick field]

But it shouldnt be!

[proper trench]

I know right!!

its so dumb how 1 compost bucket is all it takes for u to go green!

[bronze crater]

hi!

[proper trench]

I think I might go troll some poor dude into thinking im afk with a red skull only for my inventory to be composed of like 5 bottomless compost buckets

LOL

omg I pked bank I pked bank!! gets 6 compost buckets

just kill me

[quick field]

Dream mentor autos on the ds2 chain iirc

Wish fremmy just gave it lol

[proper trench]

oh yeah I guess ill also be going for that

need to do vorkath sometime too

need 4.3k for aggression and 5k for ruinous first tho

[frozen lotus]

This is crazy bc it didn’t on release lol

They snuck in a crazy amount of quests on day 5

I was so confused, bc it wasn’t in blog.

[manic lantern]

Wait whaaaaat

[manic lantern]

Wgs still needs 130 atk/ str combined on the pure bracket to do. Scam game

[quick field]

Wtf I didnt know that

[rustic swan]

What other breaches have you guys been to that have been super densely populated with constant spawns and a small area? Im trying to make a list:

1. North Otis farm varlamore
2. Outer Fortis varlamore
3. Northwest lovakenj

[quick field]

hunter guild varl

which is different from south varl (the region breach) and outer fortis

[cunning bluff]

isnt this sw varl region

oh ok

both are good?

[quick field]

south varl is my favorite breach

[rustic swan]

That's not densely populated though

[quick field]

hunter guild is a tight spawn breach which people have been liking more

I was just clarifying for wizzy

[rustic swan]

Wait does it say south varla or does it say hunter guild?

[quick field]

hunter guild is one of the tight breaches

[rustic swan]

Ohhh gotcha I see

[quick field]

which is right at the entrance of the guild

[cunning bluff]

if possible i prefer region

less clicking

bosses up longer

[rustic swan]

So we have 3 varla ones and lovakenj lol

[cunning bluff]

less loot more pts

[rustic swan]

I got 8k points at both of the condensed ones I did

[quick field]

what loadout did you use?

[cunning bluff]

they are good for full effort

bad for multilog

[quick field]

I'd love to pop a 7-8k breach on my main to recap it

[cunning bluff]

the pure needs points too

[rustic swan]

Standard bolt rag + thralls

[cunning bluff]

im gonna get attacked

;w;

i will not be banking the quiver

[quick field]

ranged probably needed at the tight breaches

lose too much uptime with melee

hmm

[cunning bluff]

nah

[rustic swan]

I think melee could do well cause more hits

You can find a 2 spawn within melee distance

[quick field]

oh I should do a fire cape on my alt after breach

gotta remember that

[plain belfry]

dbolts rubies or diamonds for breachin?

[quick field]

I've got 646 and 647 covered

[inland falcon]

i've got 593

[quick field]

feel like you've had good luck with the aussie world calls

[inland falcon]

yeah the aussie worlds have been great

[rustic swan]

lookin 605

[inland falcon]

b4 593 southern asgarnia

[quick field]

northern kandarin 647 b4

[strange trellis]

b4 659 south frem

[late sedge]

W685 B3 South Kandarin

[twilit crater]

b4 628 misthalin

[rustic swan]

NE Sorcerer tower 605

[rough plinth]

628 south misthalin

[amber spire]

b4 686 south varlamore

[cunning bluff]

594 south varla

[rough plinth]

594 south varla

[quick field]

594 it is

[amber spire]

do more monsters spawn in higher bracket breaches?

[proper trench]

never ever going mind altar again

[cunning bluff]

2x zuriel staff

while cancerafk

[rustic swan]

5k from NE Sorcerer garden, not bad

[proper trench]

shit was so populated I barely got 1.7k points only good thing there is that I anti pked someone

[rough plinth]

weapon trinket

[rustic swan]

it was a super packed condensed breach

[quick field]

got javs

unf varl spot is getting too busy

[rustic swan]

yeah I didnt wanna go I wanted to try somethin new

[twilit crater]

7 emblems, javs and statius at southern asgarnia very nice

[rustic swan]

NE Sorc garden was a little too packed to always get 2 hits on monsters

so I didnt get 8k

[heavy yoke]

is cap still 55k? at which breach does it increase each day?

[quick field]

this is the breach it increases for

so 60k now

[heavy yoke]

ok ty

[proper trench]

i guess im getting my 10k sigil tomorrow

[quick field]

I'm trying to keep the main under cap so I can post over 5k at breaches

just alternating accounts

[cunning bluff]

fragged somebody on the way to ge

[rustic swan]

anyone down for a quick tob?

just gonna bring scythe

[shadow locust]

dragged a zily into hunter guild

had it all to myself baby

[inland falcon]

never stop gambling

southern varlamore my beloved

[opaque pine]

Say someone's looking to get into DMM this week, would Wizzy's guide still be good?

For reference

[quick field]

if you're willing to swap you can do much better

but the wizzy guide still has solid point routing

[cunning bluff]

not really

you can do waay better

but it';s ok

i highly reccomend swapping and chinning and doing 99 farm in 10 mins etc.

besides the thieving which was day 1 afk this is ~12h playtime

and i am at 17500

and i'd be much higher if i got hp

[opaque pine]

So that's your thieving alt which you then did other stuff on later?

[quick field]

is corrupted scythe even that good with less stats than scythe?

got some capital and thinking of fun ways I can use it

[rustic swan]

4t shwinging is always fun at tob

[quick field]

I got a buy offer in for a fang since it should only blue skull me

[rustic swan]

dang fang is 900k

[quick field]

tbh idk if its gonna be any good even

[rustic swan]

prob only for toa really

even then vls or vesta spear might be better

[proper trench]

at that point scythe would be better no

[rustic swan]

scy blue skulls you too

[quick field]

oh nice

[proper trench]

yea thats what im saying

[quick field]

idk how good corrupted scythe is tho

[proper trench]

very

[quick field]

it has less stats than a real scythe

[proper trench]

still hits thrice

[quick field]

ooh warped sceptre switch keeps me at grey skull

crazy that trinket doesn't immediately skull you

[proper trench]

which one?

[quick field]

undead for thralls

rcb ragger setup with thrall trinket and warped sceptre switch is still only iron skull

which should be pretty safe in b4

[proper trench]

oh yeah its only like 100k value

despite being 1.6m on ge

(jagex wtf is this skull mechanic bro)

[quick field]

I like the idea of the skull mechanic quite a bit

the exection could use some work

like the skull should represent the "value" a pker is getting in dmm

[proper trench]

but like isnt that trinket totes unnecessary

unless u dont wanna use tumeken/warped sceptre

[quick field]

saves an hour manual questing akd and lets you be on stanards

or ancients

[proper trench]

kinda right about akd skip

[quick field]

I'm trying to avoid doing akd twice

[proper trench]

honestly might get it for my alt but if i get ragged and cant pk back its like -2m

[quick field]

haven't been attacked with a trinket yet and I've got 4 in the bank

swap rates are so bad I'd rather burn the cash getting pked than swap out

[proper trench]

yea i dont think im gonna swap either

I do need to start rushing higher brackets at some point though

10 days left im still at b1

[quick field]

you can b1 to b4 in like an afternoon

I used most of my alt protection at breaches

if you have excess points you can do conclusion melee training for giga xp

[proper trench]

im doing 2 accounts and the main is almost done with sigils

still needs 2k for 10% dmg and 5k for ruinous

b1->b2 is gonna be scuffed on both cuz I did fuck up the stats a bit prob gonna be using this setup on safe time but on b2->b3 I can just get full masori + webweaver and corrupted tumekens

[twilit crater]

Can you get an anchor through fairy trinket smuggle? I've got a falo step

[viral surge]

what spec weapon?

[quick field]

Dhally

If you can afford it mm2 cave is quiet

[viral surge]

i have like infinite points

[meager wadi]

best content to do during last hour of protection?

[fleet solstice]

Yes I did it with msb(i) initially. Was quite slow but did the job

[fleet solstice]

I did multi revs with a rev weapon, avarice and sigil of avarice

Best alternatives are probably chinning/barraging or breaches with good gear

Whichever is higher dps. I just had bad melee sigil/stats when I did a few hespori

[sullen chasm]

breach cancelled go to sleep guys

[fleet solstice]

Game's NOT back

[sullen chasm]

[midnight galleon]

is breach good even with shit gera

[oblique oracle]

it is

[left coyote]

any b4ers

[fleet solstice]

B4 checking 628

[midnight galleon]

i am b2

[rustic swan]

I'll try and type 605

[left coyote]

it's arguably better with shit gear as you get hit less

[rustic swan]

But on mobile

[midnight galleon]

here are my stats

trying to prod for if its even worth going or na

[left coyote]

it's still your bis pph

[sudden light]

Maintenance ended just in time

[left coyote]

most likely

[midnight galleon]

kk

great

[left coyote]

even if you only get 2k points

[proud geyser]

just go for it

[midnight galleon]

alright

ive been so sloppy with breaches lol

really need to step up my game asap

[left coyote]

I'm risking this breach because dmm gp is so cheap now

[sudden light]

Can you not buy an MSB? They're pretty cheap iirc

[midnight galleon]

good shout

[left coyote]

if I die I lose 3m of split money from my alt

[amber spire]

B4 647 north kandarin

[proud geyser]

w628 b4 sorcerer tower

[fleet solstice]

b4 628 sorc

[sudden light]

B2 682 Feldip

[rustic swan]

B4 w605 - south asg

[amber spire]

b4 646 south varla

[left coyote]

b4 646 south varla

[quick field]

659 south varl

[fleet solstice]

All the way west right?

[tender ruin]

im a west coaster now

[left coyote]

yes west of hunters guild/sunset coast

[midnight galleon]

ok thius is not so bad

gonna be cool to see how much pts this gives

lotta guys here tho

[left coyote]

so few spawns this breach tf

[left coyote]

make sure to focus fresh npcs

[midnight galleon]

ok good tuip

[proud geyser]

ikr

[sudden light]

Entity hider on if you haven't already

[left coyote]

gonna check multi fuck it

[tender ruin]

great taxi

[midnight galleon]

how is b4 crowding looklin glike?

[left coyote]

not even entity hiding

[midnight galleon]

ok

i need to figure out some way to train my cbs that isnt chinning hmm

is prayer expensive in dmm or na

[sudden light]

No it's cheap as shit

[left coyote]

why not chin

[midnight galleon]

gotta do in prot

or i could risk without at this point, who knows

[proud geyser]

i did without prot to 84

[midnight galleon]

interesting

ok i already have gp swappe dand can buy more bcs cheap as shit now right

[left coyote]

I did 99 without prot

[midnight galleon]

(do ppl even sell for cheap as shit?)

[fleet solstice]

I got stacked out xd

[midnight galleon]

gg

[fleet solstice]

Decided to pick up stat hammer and got murdered

[midnight galleon]

hmm i got seated too but i think my npc

[left coyote]

so few spawns this breach, weird

maybe it does scale with number of players

[sudden light]

3.5k despite the crowd, nice

[midnight galleon]

oo

[proud geyser]

got only 3.2k points

[midnight galleon]

2k!

not bad

that was my whole wintertodt grind for 3 hours

[warm wave]

Yeah breaches op even with shit gear

[proud geyser]

damn I just profited arrows

rare

[frozen lotus]

it does

[midnight galleon]

ok

[sudden light]

tbf they used to give jack shit for the first week

[fleet solstice]

3400 points this one only

[midnight galleon]

do they get a lot better with better gear?

[fleet solstice]

Yeah much

[midnight galleon]

ok 3400 is not a lot better than mine

its nearly double but hmm

[proud geyser]

Thralls help the most

[midnight galleon]

ok

[left coyote]

where are the dmm high scores

[fleet solstice]

Usually get like 6000-7000

[sudden light]

Yep thralls with the sigil is giga op

[amber spire]

Managed to lure a jelly away and kill it entirely solo

[midnight galleon]

oh so i should go for akd got it

[proud geyser]

Yea

[sullen chasm]

bruh I fucked up so bad. Had 2 monsters alone and outlevled the bracket

[proud geyser]

or use trinket

[sullen chasm]

I thought I could stay in bracket long enough

[warm wave]

Trinket can be a bit expensive tho

[midnight galleon]

[warm wave]

They are fast to train fyi

[midnight galleon]

aye

[sudden light]

Yeah those are free as fuck

[midnight galleon]

buyables should be quick

ius the market saturated with 2nd and herbs tho?

[rustic swan]

Wait did I come crash you?

[warm wave]

Yes

[sudden light]

Yeah the breaches drop em

[midnight galleon]

kk

[rustic swan]

I remember finding someone with a jelly and doing it with them

[warm wave]

Breaches spit out way too much herbs and secondaries

They are all giga cheap

[fleet solstice]

Any tobbers? 😄

[amber spire]

Im not sure I have entity hider on and was watching my other account, this was on 646

[midnight galleon]

guh

[rustic swan]

Yeah I was on 646 I think it was you

[left coyote]

4k points this breach, could be worse I guess

[rustic swan]

It was just under the hunter guild right?

[amber spire]

got 5.3k on one acc and 5.6 on other

[warm wave]

Ok not that secondary lmao

[amber spire]

should have dragged it further away lol

[warm wave]

Unicorn horns, snape grass, eye of newt, red spider eggs

Those kinds of secondaries are easy to get

Cleaning herbs also gives a lot of xp early

[rustic swan]

Yeah we still got the whole thing to ourselves pretty much. One other guy showed up at like 33% hp

I lured a zily super far south on the peninsula

Got it almost to myself

[warm wave]

Nice

[left coyote]

I almost got a zily to myself

[left coyote]

but then someone dragged it to middle again zzz

[amber spire]

corrupted tumekens shadow is only 700k, might be worth it to bring zuriels and that for a b4 breach

[rustic swan]

Your gonna get ragged if you are in zuriels I think

Closing in on cap

Not bad for starting a little over a week ago

[left coyote]

I think if you are going to use shadow you should use proper gear with it

if you bring shadow and no gear with it you're a free kill

[amber spire]

Are people with a corrupted scythe getting ragged? Zuriels + corrupted shadow would be about the same risk

[warm wave]

I get ragged almost every time I go green skull or above

[left coyote]

idk I never get ragged at morning breach (as in this one)

at evening I always get ragged

[rustic swan]

This one is definitely like half population

[midnight galleon]

ok ive decided im gonna do some herblore in dmm

seems chill

[tender ruin]

yeah the <t:1770750000:t> breach sucks donkey balls

[rustic swan]

I'm tempted to risk scythe

[midnight galleon]

ah, its the msot crowded one?

[warm wave]

It’s the worst of the bunch, but it’s the only one I can do on workdays

[left coyote]

I know bring vesta spear morning (red skull) and dscim at night

the few pkers that are there go for the scythers

[midnight galleon]

ill admit i do want to try some pvm in dmm

[left coyote]

ye luckily I cna log in during work day for breach

[amber spire]

no thats a different place, I was far away from the guild

Good idea to bring extra undead grasp runes if you are running ranged + thralls if there is only a monster weak to mage available

[fleet solstice]

Slayer's staff can autocast. Just bring plenty of fire runes

The warped sceptre is only like 140k and is a good bit better. But shouldn't affect skull much

[midnight galleon]

hmmm

im almost tempted to get this

buy some cheap ass pts from lvls

[left coyote]

I've bought some gp to play around with

up to you if you think it ruins the progression

[fleet solstice]

I bought some when I was in b2 to get going as well

[midnight galleon]

i bought 3m already, admittedly for a lot more than this

[left coyote]

yeah makes sense

[midnight galleon]

im thinking of buying bones and getting some srs prayer

[left coyote]

I just didn't feel like grinding pvm or pvmers to get money to pk with

especially if it's 1:1

maingame gp is worthless to me anyways

[sullen chasm]

I just did this.. (got bp 2 kills before)

[midnight galleon]

its admittedly not fully worthless to me

i am doign a main rebuild

ive pissed ish 40m away this dmm but ayue

[left coyote]

I would swap a couple mil and go chinning

just take only 100 chins at a time

[midnight galleon]

naked chinning is fine?

[left coyote]

or something

yea

[midnight galleon]

i had the idea that i would have some bare bones gear setup but i have not figured that out

[fleet solstice]

I chinned in catavombs. Got like 7m xp/h bringing 100 chins at a time (although in b4)

Was also nice slayer xp. Got a few points to pick dusties for it. No black mask

[midnight galleon]

oooo

[left coyote]

ye I did the same only at nechryaels

[midnight galleon]

oh thats a good one

am still lvl 27

but there was a sigil that makes tasks pickable?

[left coyote]

goading pot overload 100 chins and go brr

yeah there is one

[fleet solstice]

Cost 45 points per pick

[left coyote]

but it does cost points so you need to do some slayer upfront

I think wildy dark warriors is also popular

[tender ruin]

its dmm you cant have QoL

you get almost-but-not-really the thing

[midnight galleon]

ok herblore is becoming boring

i maybe should put the chin plan into motion

sanity check on sigils for chinning:

[left coyote]

looks good assuming you don't have aggression

[midnight galleon]

i dont think i do

i do have some pts to spend at this point but

what are bis bones for prayer

like cost efficient ish

[proper trench]

I think im about ready on my main to do breach logging for an entire day kinda ass stats so this is about the best i can get for range setup

[midnight galleon]

hm

not the chapest

[fleet solstice]

Has anybody else experienced this? My menus keep closing in dangerous areas

[rough plinth]

yea

annoying af

[fleet solstice]

I've lived with it until now. But setting up invos in toa is so tilting

[oblique oracle]

it really is bugged content lol. has to do something with game checking the 800k risk

[midnight galleon]

how did yall do prayer, if at all?

[fleet solstice]

Wildy altar

[midnight galleon]

which bones

dbones seem expensive

[rough plinth]

dragon

[fleet solstice]

Superior dragon or regular dragon

[proper trench]

you only need so much

[fleet solstice]

Depended on my cash stack

[proper trench]

wildy altar has insane rates

[midnight galleon]

hmm

[proper trench]

expected rate for 1 d bone is 5k xp and u only need 84/86 so

[midnight galleon]

cool

eh the goading is not nescesary for chinning, or is it?

shits not buying for 50k

nvm bought for 54

i have 5k dmm pts spare, thinking of getting gunslinger

that would prob boost my next breach a lot

[proper trench]

goading is that expensive?

[midnight galleon]

ye

dam i really forgot where i wanted to chin

the slayer fking me up rn

[proper trench]

ppl dont wanna do mixollogy even with 5x points LOL

thats insane

[midnight galleon]

maybe i go ankous in wildy or something

or just dark mages. seemed empty

[proper trench]

can level slayer at the same time if u go ankouus

[midnight galleon]

well i got sat

tbh didnt see the skull updated on my head leaving ge

[proper trench]

what did you do for ur b1->b2 prot hour lad lor

[midnight galleon]

cant remember tbh

oh i went revs

it was ass

[proper trench]

did u not get a rev task before

[midnight galleon]

nop

[proper trench]

laddddddd lor

at least get a slayer task if ur going revs

[midnight galleon]

well idk what to say

b1->b2 nearly killed all my will to play the gamemode bcs of all the planning

i wanna just fk around

not minmax important decisions

now i need to get some spot to chin in :S

[proper trench]

yea I fuucking hate this leagues is way better

[midnight galleon]

ill just go do ankou

[oblique oracle]

can ofc be a coincidence but been pking with blue skull nicely for the past days, but now i went pking for the first time with red skull and i get insta scouted and koed with max gear 😄 didnt even get to fight anybody with my gear

atleast i have my finals gear in bank but dunno if i cba pk anymore :p

[proper trench]

u couldnt pay mme to care about a multi final lol

[oblique oracle]

im so bored these days that ill take it

[midnight galleon]

ok

ok time to figure out the paying for task stuff

meticilousness good?

[proper trench]

yep good

[midnight galleon]

1.5k pts

might aswell

ill make pts back

oh its pay with slayer points

not regular pts, got it

[proper trench]

silly lad

lor

[midnight galleon]

:)

ok i suppose i can train some melees on shit tier task

[proper trench]

or u can just tury boost

[midnight galleon]

do all slayer masters behave the same in dmm, or is that league excluisive

presumably no if turael boost is athing

[proper trench]

i shouıld probably do slayer aswell

[fleet solstice]

Wildy slayer doesn't share streak

Over than that i don't know how it works in league

[proper trench]

need 700pts for task storage extended revs and 2x rev task

[midnight galleon]

well time to beat some wolf ass

hmm

maybe i should get some cheapish melee sigils for melee training

hmm, ajq for cave slims is not working

right i see

[cold forge]

Damn that breach was insane

[fleet solstice]

Is the gnome quest line just being able to kill demonics + make zenytes?

[rough plinth]

and mm2 tunnels

[fleet solstice]

Ah true. Am at max cmb though

[cold forge]

Was in a work training meeting so couldn’t be too focused, decided to go to the south spot in zanaris so I could semi afk and ended up getting 3 trinkets, 8 tier 5s and about 6k again

What are you guys spending your archaic points on

Got about 32m pts id forgot about

[midnight galleon]

what is the best 5k sigil

[cold forge]

Gunslinger

[midnight galleon]

kk

[cold forge]

Looks like I’m pking this breach tonight

[midnight galleon]

i was thinking for lvling purposes maybe swash was nice

[cold forge]

Maybe if that’s your goal

[midnight galleon]

but dps at breach takes prio 100%

so ye gunslinger seems like it

[cold forge]

For breach dps you just can’t go wrong with slinger and rcb

Super low risk and incredible DPS

[midnight galleon]

aye

[cold forge]

With 99 rage and 86 pray I can pretty much 2 shot anyone in this bracket

Slinger, rcb and javs 🥰

[midnight galleon]

hehe

[plain belfry]

Are you guys still picking up emblems? I doubt I’m ever going to go through 10m points

Last season they were a great rebuild backup but now it’s kinda whatever

[warm wave]

Can sell stuff you redeem the points for I guess

Doesn’t matter if you already have enough gp

[rough plinth]

i spent like 50m points on antidotes for herb xp

[cold forge]

I picked up 9 emblems this morning for the fun of it and made like 150k from the points lol

Really not worth it imo

Plus it boosts your skull up so people (like me) will target you

I normally only pick up pvp armour, weapons and trinkets

I could see picking up a few alchables if you’re gagging for cash for return sets

[rough plinth]

just use the emblems on ur deadman skull

[proper trench]

lol this diary is impossible once u buy instant tree growth

[cold forge]

lol didn’t even think of that

Wth

[cold forge]

Can’t you deactivate the passive?

[proper trench]

nope

not toggleabble

[cold forge]

That’s annoying

I think b0aty was running round with a diary cape last night

Or close to one

Might be worth checking how he did it, if he did

[proper trench]

not possible if he picked nature before doing that step

[rough plinth]

u cant do pickpocket a fally guard step either i think

[cold forge]

Guess you can’t just lure it out of the safe zone?

[rough plinth]

i tried pickpocketing the ones not in safe zone but didnt work

[tender ruin]

I think I got that by pickpocketing one on the edge of safezone

i lied

i dont have that one done

its okay its almost april then we get proper leagues

[rough plinth]

[tender ruin]

having to get smited for every Pray at task is also funny

[midnight galleon]

alright

im leaning towards spending one hr protection at chins and the remaining one at prayer altar

[rough plinth]

dont waste one on prayer

[midnight galleon]

hmm

idk what id use the other for

also chinning?

[amber spire]

chinning both hours would be good yeah, perhaps spend 15 minutes getting prayer up to 84 for annhiliate

[cunning bluff]

I have done lot of off prot pray and chin

It's fine

[cunning bluff]

This worked for me

[rough plinth]

[rustic swan]

When does the cap increase by 5k every day?

I'm at 52k so not gonna bother with next breach if it isn't increased by the one ~5 hours from now

[rough plinth]

cap is 60k rn

[rough plinth]

it is the one after this

so ~12h

[frozen lotus]

People been sleeping on corrupted darkbow this shit is busted

Did you guys know it’s 6tick

With gunslinger it’s a 5t range wep that maxes 68 lol

[cunning bluff]

Yes

[amber spire]

5t-4t is a bigger improvement and I think RCB has better DPS even before that

[midnight galleon]

mm1 still the place to go even with catacombs available for chins?

[frozen lotus]

How many chins ladlor

[midnight galleon]

200 reds and 500 blacks

got gp to buy more if needed

[frozen lotus]

MM1 takes a bit to ramp up because of the spawns ,ok yeah

Do mm1

[amber spire]

Damn that won't last you for long

[frozen lotus]

I would consider selling the black to buy red if the prices are still very different

If you have onslaught, red chins are pretty strong

[midnight galleon]

hmm

800gp diff per

[frozen lotus]

I’d keep em

[midnight galleon]

kk. u reckon buy more than i currently have?

i cant remember the chins thrown /hr figure

[frozen lotus]

Are you b4b

B4?

[midnight galleon]

i am b2

going to b3

then b4

[amber spire]

It's 1970/hr

[frozen lotus]

It’s a few mil range xp , think it’s good

Cballs are very cheap and there’s the auto reload relic

So cannoning in a safe zone is pretty good afk

[cunning crest]

i used thralls to drain my prayer to be able complete these prayer diary steps

[midnight galleon]

lets see if i can remember where in mm1 caves lol

surely i marked a tile at some point

omfg

this mf nearly killed me with many chins

is that chest worth looting or nehn

seems time consuming

[amber spire]

I dont think you can with protection

[midnight galleon]

annoyed to be griefed

is that bone stacki not exceeding 4 a myth or real

[rustic swan]

Real

[cunning bluff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq4ZJGvWTic

[proper trench]

guys im such a dumbass

I was 2t teaking with a longbow not a shortbow

thats why i couldnt 2t not becuase of efficiency

[midnight galleon]

hmm

cool

6 to go

[warm wave]

Speedrunning combat levels huh

[midnight galleon]

yea the plan was to skip b3 if possible

hop straight to b4

[warm wave]

Interesting

[midnight galleon]

3a man at b3 ge :o

[proper trench]

1def bracket is so shit I have to pray melee against these birbs...

[quick field]

obor goes crazyyy

23 kills so far on 5 entry keys

[rustic swan]

Could you theoretically do 100 no barrow brother kill chests for quick points?

[fleet solstice]

I'm pretty sure barrows point are per brother killed and unrelated to chest loots

Although you can't kill more than 6 without looting the chest

[rustic swan]

Ahh I see

[fleet solstice]

Sending 1 of each raid+colo is very good points per hour

[quick field]

ya'll think breaches are going to start falling off once cap hits 75k?

Most of the good people are at or near cap but the casuals have to be pretty far off

I'm sure a lot of people are hitting their goals as well

jagex better not cull worlds tomorrow!

[cunning crest]

might be so that breaches become battleground or even unplayable to casuals 🤔

[quick field]

ya that's a good point

[plain belfry]

Entry tob with a bunch of level 60s was super funny would recommend

“Do you think rune scim or rcb with diamonds is better for bloat?” Lmao

[quick field]

I haven't done my 1 raid kcs on either acc

should probably do that

[fleet solstice]

Would be down for a reg tob

[plain belfry]

Anyone care to share their experience in b2? I’ll bracket up today/tomorrow and deciding if I stay a pure or not

Iirc a maxed 60attack pure is Lv 80ish

[sullen chasm]

Probably gonna be shit for the casuals then, more people pking

[rustic swan]

Id give it a couple days till it becomes shit after 75k cap.

The people already at the current cap have the ability to skip PVM breaches to pk

[quick field]

ya most of the competent people are capping in one breach already

[cold forge]

Idk I’m capped but still wanna hit the breaches

They’re fun as hell

Probably just pk when I’m capped and hit stuff when I’m not

[quick field]

ye I love breaches

working them on 2 accounts to dodge the cap

think I"m on pace to cap both accs by the end

[bronze crater]

Yeah same

[midnight galleon]

hmmmm

is scurrius ok for melee xp

looking to push for p4 but now im in a bit of an in-between state

[quick field]

Ya scurrius is fine

Not too many pkers usually

[rustic swan]

Scurrius is very good

Make your bone weapon as soon as you can

Infinite prayer, titanium and the healing relic you can 100% afk

[midnight galleon]

:o

ooo

how big is pts cost for that?

[frozen lotus]

i feel scammed. why doesn't gunslinger work with scobo...

[noble quail]

yall think its worth it to stay b3 for breaches if im just logging in to farm points or should i push for the top bracket

[frozen lotus]

can u?

i tried afking and felt like i was gonna die to the falling shit

[midnight galleon]

3k titanium, eternal belief 2k, restoration 500 hmm

5.5k with 2.5k is benefits other stuff too

[proper trench]

I think im gonna go up a bracket before this breach and breach log 3 breaches with this setup

not the best because I fucked up my stats but ill take what i can get I suppose

planning on getting this on 2nd bracket

Good plan or nay

[cold forge]

57 hp will be absolute hell mate

It’s too low even for b1 imo

Low hp is bait

Hp is the best combat stat for PvP

[proper trench]

I know but im not gonna be pvping very often

[cold forge]

Ah fair more of a pvm build then?

[proper trench]

im just gonna get my breach stuff

yeah

[cold forge]

Yeah it looks good - just double check that 30 defence is worth it

[proper trench]

30def is for masori

[cold forge]

With how cheap the pvp armour sets are and only needing 20 def im not convinced its worth

Is Morgan’s much worse?

Than unfort masori

[proper trench]

not that much worse

[cold forge]

Also masori is hella expensive right? Due to being bis for the final

[proper trench]

o dear it went up alot more than I expected LOL

okay morrigans it is

[midnight galleon]

i dont wanna do a kingdom divided

[proper trench]

although I have 25def and 59hp rn cuz I messed up the stats

so i guess this will be the stats?

[proper trench]

here is your other option lad lor

https://prices.runescape.wiki/dmm/item/28570

[quick field]

Its 5t normally, shouldnt it work?

[meager wadi]

best bosses for points?

[cold forge]

Scorching bow is 4 tics

On rapid

[cold forge]

Any raids, colloseum and hespori

[quick field]

The way gunslinger works with most weapons is it checks the actual speed not the rapid speed

Or thats my understanding at least

[cold forge]

But it can only make a weapon 4 tics right

Not just down 1 regardless of what the tics are

[quick field]

Nah it'll take stuff to 3t

[cold forge]

Oh

So it’s even stronger than I thought

My gosh

[quick field]

Thats why the desc mentions bowfa despite it being 4t rapid

[cold forge]

Idk why they made gunslinger the same cost as arcane swiftness and th melee one

Because it seems so much stronger

With the rcb

[cold forge]

Didn’t know it worked with bowfa that’s cool

[quick field]

It doesnt work with bowfa, bowfa is mentioned as excluded

[midnight galleon]

Yea fk that haah

[quick field]

Im risking trinkets at breaches now

If pking get bad maybe ill manual akd on my alt but ive got like 10m to burn np

[cold forge]

Is the undead trinket any better than just normally casting thralls?

[proper trench]

nope

equivalent to t3 thralls but u can also use ancients

[cold forge]

Nice I’ve got 5 useless trinkets in the bank then lol

[proper trench]

sell them for 1.8m

[cold forge]

Yeah I guess I will

Just nothing really to spend that gp on

[proper trench]

really nothing

already have a twisted bow and stuff?

[cold forge]

I’m not pvming I did all that the first few days

Had normal
Tbow and shadow

And just wanna breach log now

[proper trench]

fair enough

[quick field]

Only advantage is it let's you be on a different spellbook

The nice thing is the trinket has a low wealth value so it wont increase your skull

[cold forge]

That has some value but I’m in a suicide set anyway

I’ll probs keep them around incase I wanna do some breach pvping

But still wanna hit mobs

[quick field]

If i had akd done I'd just manual cast but this saves me the hour

Not like the cash is doing much else

[proper trench]

this sigil is the only thing im conflicted about

is there a better sigil for webweaver or nay

[kind bronze]

consistency is pretty weak

[proper trench]

what else am i gonna use though

[kind bronze]

arent there 2 ranging ones

rigorous or something

[proper trench]

that one straight up doesnt give dps tho

0.1 extra dps with rigorous

[rustic swan]

I think I died twice to rockfalls when I afked to 99 ranged and 99 melees.

It's better to stay within melee distance and pray melee. Otherwise he sometimes just combos rockfalls without attacking you and you aren't healing/gaining xp.

[proper trench]

weird but it says webweaver is just better than accursed sceptre even for ma2 bosses do I trust dps calc or my guts

[rustic swan]

It shouldn't have any DPS on ma2 bosses

You don't hit

[proper trench]

nevermind

forgot to select combat style

but webweaver is still better it says

its weird but since its just 1 dps diff ill trust my guts and use sceptre

[rustic swan]

When you try to hit an ma2 boss with webweaver you'll know it's zero dps

[proper trench]

its not though i was hitting with corrupted dbow

[rustic swan]

Corrupted items are coded weird.

That might be why

[proper trench]

fair enough

[rough plinth]

ruthless ranger is bad if ur going to breach with this

[rustic swan]

i.e., Corrupted scythe doesn't fail the no scythe tob CA.

I think corrupted scythe also failed the melee jad challenge CA

I'm gonna scythe my next breach on PC. Will try to hit MA2 bosses.

[midnight galleon]

any reason to save protection for breach or neh

[proper trench]

go in breach with insane gear get shiitton of points

[midnight galleon]

yea i was thinking that could be interesting

i saw rhys do it

or was it someone else

[proper trench]

but honestly ive been going to breaches with corrupted dbow/rune cb gunslinger

and get like 4k pts anyway

[midnight galleon]

corrupted dbow for specs?

also rigour or na

[rustic swan]

Yeah I've had 8k breach with rcb and thralls.

[proper trench]

no just hitting normally

[rustic swan]

It's not about gear it's about finding a good breach

[proper trench]

corrupted dbow is crazy good for how cheap it is

[midnight galleon]

oh really

[rustic swan]

Have you calced it vs rcb?

[proper trench]

yeah

[rustic swan]

What were the results?

[midnight galleon]

sleeper wep then it seems

[proper trench]

its a 6tick weapon with same stats as dbow, shoots twice

[midnight galleon]

my impressions if it are that its quite ass

[proper trench]

and u can still go down a tick with gunslinger

[midnight galleon]

i suppose it benefits a bit disproportionately then from the gunslinger. idk tho

hmm

idk if i aim for b4 before next brewach or no

it will be rcb gunslinger for me

[rustic swan]

I mean relatively speaking 5 tick to 4 tick is a bigger DPS increase than 6 tick to 5 tick right?

[midnight galleon]

but atm b3

[midnight galleon]

true that

[proper trench]

honestly it calcs almost as good as webweaver

[midnight galleon]

[rustic swan]

How much are d arrows goin for?

[proper trench]

2k each

use about 50 a breach

[rustic swan]

Not bad

Will give it a try

[midnight galleon]

i wish my range was higher lol

79 is not it

[proper trench]

fr its such a sleeper weapon and I was also hitting ma2 bosses with it

[midnight galleon]

ill use next immunity for that

[rustic swan]

Might get pked by people thinking you are holding a tbow though lol

That's probably the biggest downside

[proper trench]

lol it does look like a tbow doesnt it

but its a white skull with dbow + 35 dragon arrows

[midnight galleon]

oo im so looking forward to beginning to srsly stack some points

ive felt like a broke boy this dmm

[proper trench]

its ok lad lor im always ur true believer

[midnight galleon]

u love that bit

i respect the commitment

[proper trench]

ur name is perfect for it

lad is a very funny word

[midnight galleon]

my mains name is madlor and i name the ironman ladlor bcs british ppl in the clan called me lad

c:

[proper trench]

what a mad lad lor going through a tad bit of scape

[rustic swan]

Ah the insta green skull is a little annoying

CBA to get targeted on mobile for that + someone thinking it's a tbow

Can try on PC though

[proper trench]

whats on your invy?

[midnight galleon]

ok time to prep my setup

[rustic swan]

70 arrows