Bruhsailor guide Arceuus herb/tree Runs (beginning of Ch. 2)

[misty inlet]

So I always rushed farm runs on my previous accs such that I got 99 pretty early on them, so I've done 99 farming a couple times. Never did i ever think of doing arceuus or lunar runs back then? Maybe it was something I wanted to do for learning-it's sake, but that's about it.

what is the big draw to doing arceuus runs early game? He even has me making house tabs for this? idk why? I mean i'll do it, and perhaps try it, but what's the draw? is it way way way faster?

just confused and would like a bit more info about it b/c it never ever felt bad doing regular spellbook farm runs, save perhaps for wanting to learn the other methods to maybe save on volcanic ash. but time wise the regular book seemed fine.

it just seems like changing the spellbook all the time at the dark altar would be cumbersome but idk

[high salmon]

So, generally standard spellbook is one of the worst spellbooks to be camping

You arent swapping it back and forth all the time, you are just staying on the arc/lunar book generally

The utility of those 2 spellbooks is wayyyyy higher than standard spells

As for farming specifically, you got resurrect crops, you have frenkenstrains tp and respawn tp

[vague bridge]

resurrect crop is such a strong spell

just has better tps also

the farming guide in #1052266500041478246 might help you

[misty inlet]

yeh I read through it, i'll go back to that section to take notes on it so I can learn the method. thanks guys. I guess I always would camp regular spellbook and swap whenever I specifically needed to burst/barrage or something. but never camped other books, just felt strange/scary to me. anyway ill try it.

[odd onyx]

To be honest, I have been doing 5 tree patches, 5 fruit patches, 6 herb patches (and the neighbor flowers ), 2 bush for whiteberry and 2 calquat basically since the chapter one's farming step... I hated being on Arceus and not having varrock, Camelot, ardougne (center) , trollheim, Civitas (for the herb patch and then bird>boat to quickly access the fruit/calquat/flower patch) and lumbridge teleport lmao.. like I understand it takes time walking around 30-40 tiles more for a patch , but I mean, depends on your patience with farming, some people do 10 birdhouse per day , why not doing a long farm trip and 2~3 herb ones that isn't that fast? I'm on the Rex grind step now with 76 farming, and for the first time I used the house tabs I think I bet Arceus becomes quite handy when you have resurrect, Nexus and such, but on the current step I feel quite limited when I want to access the patches I talked about before...

[upbeat rampart]

If you include a lot of bad patches you'll have transportation issues. If you then also swap over to the regular spellbook it'll really be quite awkward.
I think you forgot to mention mahogany and hespori. Those are some of the most important sources of farming xp - almost all of the things you mentioned are less important

Ideally you don't do that many herb runs at your level, they're not very good. Regular trees famously suck. Fruit trees are good, but normally people struggle to maintain papaya or better seeds so those can drop in frequency too.

Bushes are just bad. I don't really understand the flowers comment - you normally don't really grow those

Nexus isnt used for farming, nor are poh portals

I think the main conflict is that you want to access these patches in the first place. It's better not to.

[odd onyx]

Oh yeah, the fossil island patches and hespori I don't really include (have been doing hespori on cooldown since 62 and teaks planted there since I could), it's literally there to do when making contracts and bird house runs hehe.

The flowers patches are just for limpwurts, which I dont consider an effort to farm for super strength later (its 2 tile away from herb patch but I may stop now as I think I have enough for a while, 1 planted per run may be enough like said on the guide, but again, its 2 tiles away ). 2x whiteberry bushes because it's just there as well haha (chronicle and ardy cape), has meh pet chance (which I want ) and I may use on super def later on.

The thing is that I don't really plan on doing the full barb fishing on cox (specially due to 3t "obligation", as if you dont do it 65 agility would take 70h~ and instead I want to level up most of the fishing on karambwans, which would naturally make me skip the shopping later on for those), so if I do only 2x~ herb patches per run and not do those at least 4x per day, I will struggle even more with herblore later I think.

Don't get me wrong, if someone follow the guide 100%, everything works, but for example as someone who don't enjoy 3t barb and skipped the cut-eat on the 50 agi grind, I had to do mess hall (which I dont regret doing). For the deviations I did and plan on doing (hehe) the arceeus rn feels annoying.

I think that's ok if you not trying to save every single minute in exchange of game enjoyment...at this moment for example I'm doing another deviation, making pineapple pizzas to get longer trip times at rex because in earlier steps I was getting a mental breakdown hopping worlds for 3x karambwans

[livid grotto]

Just afk barb fishing if you dont want to 3 tick. Barb fishing early on is extremely good the time save is quite extreme. I dont think id say regular tree runs suck but I will say you need to pvm for these seeds to be viable contracts do not give enough to make doing regular tree runs worth it.

[upbeat rampart]

I think you're mixing several things

firstly, barb fishing to 99 is optional in BRUHsailer

secondly, there's really no need to tick manip the fishing if you dont want to

thirdly, I don't see how making your farming worse compensates for anything at all

I'd really recommend giving the farming guide another read. A lot of people struggle with the skill because they suck at it and imagine their own methods must be really good, even if they aren't

This can make the skill a lot slower and more annoying

[odd onyx]

Oh, that's the thing, I did a lot of barb fishing on other accounts, it's just that on this IM I feel really annoyed doing it again and want to do something else. FAAAAR from saying it's bad or not efficient, please don't get me wrong.

The farming thing too, it's super wrong to say that I'm trying to sell my way of doing farming as good (I feel like that's how you took it) haha.
Because of the things I plan on skipping in the guide (for reasons I talked about before, NOT because I think I’d do it in a better or more efficient way) and the way I feel about farming right now, it makes sense doing it this way (visiting and planting on X patches). With a seed box, rune pouch, not needing to equip secateurs, paying for trees to be cut, leprechauns noting things and standing close to patches, and not having the urge to sell seeds on the GE... compared to the farming experience I had in the past, I think farming rn is pretty chill and I kinda like doing it.
As of right now (as my limited knowledge goes), if I don't do barblore and do farming the optimal way, I feel like my 66~ herb will be impacted later on.

I only commented here mostly to say that it makes sense the OP "questioning" Arceuus on early game, as depending on how the person is following the guide, the importance of it may fluctuate. Not here to flame the guide (which wouldn't make sense, as I have migrated from a different one and I'm still following it) or say that what I do is more efficient (which obviously is not ).

[misty inlet]

started arc. spellbook today, seems mostly fine. but i know it will be a bit tough here and there getting some places. or at least at first it will be a head scratcher b/c i've never 'mained' this book. only used for specific purposes

[dusty locust]

Nice, def worth resi crop & other arceuus spells and working around not having access to standard spells all the time

[misty inlet]

ch 2 step 14 of the gudie prob wont even ahve that spell for a while? dont you need v.m. to unlock it? and also not even sure when its appropriate to like swap back to reg. book. guess the mage spells maybe

oh resurrect crop

[upbeat ferry]

Resurrect crops doesn't need vm

[misty inlet]

i was thinking about the ultra spell

ya got it mixed up. i guess that's the lunar one

which wont be til 78 mage anyway when i main that book ig

wait i have it all mixed up again, anyway ty

not sure when to main lunar over arc

[upbeat ferry]

When you can spell book swap

So 96

[misty inlet]

this guide throws like a billion things at me at once, my runelite notes is chock full

[upbeat ferry]

the benefit of a guide like this is the routing saves you so much time, at the cost of trying to keep track of 20 things at once

[misty inlet]

yea its quite a lot

i don't exactly feel like im 'playing the game' but its so cracked that i cba not doing it tbh