Osto-Ayak (Doom of Mokhaiotl)

[civic surge]

1000 deep delves?

I am rank 538 on mokha for kc.

For Ironman I guess

Alright one more run today.

[unborn girder]

Goodluck!

[civic surge]

Nothin

[night zephyr]

Surely I will finally get a drop tomorrow when going for CAs because I'll be thinking about CAs and not the drop

[north axle]

will you bail on the run for a drop though

[night zephyr]

100%

I don't have tbow/ZCB so I doubt I'll ever be on pace for GM. And I've already done a 16 pb, surely that's enough for that task.

If not I do that new acid spitting thing to throw acid into wall and get back

[north axle]

the what

[night zephyr]

someone in here mentioned how they noticed doom spits acid in the same direction after car phase as they were spitting at the start. So if you see doom spitting south/west you keep doom on the south wall. if you see doom spitting north/east you keep doom on the east wall.

replace that concept for other side if you use the other side of doom of course.

[north axle]

ah yeah that makes sense

[weary garden]

clan botw for doom starts tomorrow. about to pump these numbers up

hopefully ill get a cloth soon

[unborn girder]

@civic surge Mailk was the OG who mentioned this btw

Damn had to leave after 15 because of venom 😦 wish I had extendeds

[unborn girder]

First time passing 18 scobo, chally, deadeye 😄

[timber sandal]

Great job man. Gives me hope, one day I'll pass 10

[whole bronze]

Difficulty wise, what would you guys say Delve 8 and 8+ are comparable to? I’m still struggling to consistently get to 7, never mind the deep delves that I see you guys doing, so I was just curious

[spice nest]

Idk, a sol fight? You’ll fail for a few attempts then once you get to know da timing it will be easier

Reynold on yt has a beginner friendly strat where you just focus on getting correct prayer up in time after 2nd boulder explode, not flicking 2nd hit

[worldly nexus]

Completing wave 8 is defs alot easier then inferno/colo

Really subjective topic but I would save wave 20 would be similar to inferno

[spice nest]

I’m not saying da entire wave, just sol fight itself

[worldly nexus]

Imo Sol is alot easier then doom 8

Sol has very few mechanics and only 1 attack that requires tick perfect timing

[spice nest]

Yus it’s just nerve for first time for everything

[worldly nexus]

and it won't KO you for missing it

Agree

if you could just send Sol runs it would be a very simple boss

Doom 8+ is about learning a very precise series of actions

and being able to very consistenly perform those actions, tick perfect, for many waves

there is a little problem solving around dodging acid and positing the car based on rock spawns, but its pretty minor

so its hard to gauge but you will find a fresh player will clear lvl 8 doom well before they would get an inferno KC, inferno has alot more learning and is a much longer encounter

[dense ginkgo]

I knew it

[celest robin]

now for the big question

is this elite time or amoxliatl elite time harder

[arctic niche]

that gm time seems nearly impossible without tbow

[maiden cedar]

feels like a zcb soft req

[granite turret]

I feel like the elite speed is less of a gear check than amox cuz you can just get a lot of chally melee punish in? Idk tho that is rough for elite

[celest robin]

avg of 17.5 dps over the fight is a lot

I'm not sure what the dps of a chally punish is, gotta take into account the 7t cooldown

you can probably get it on a budget with a lil bit of ruby resetting, along w/ venging a few melees & dumping burning claw specs to make sure you use your entire spec bar

[granite turret]

Amox has basically the same hp but no mechanics to speed up really

[maiden cedar]

amox has negative armor tho

[granite turret]

I guess that makes it easier on a budget

Lmao the reddit thread for doom CAs is hilarious

[keen rapids]

Wym

[proven owl]

i doubt the speed time will be that crazy

full melee switches speed it up a lot

[granite turret]

Lots of ppl complaining about prayer flicking and stuff

And that they have to do 1-8 for most CAs

[proven owl]

i dunno why redditors even get to comment on cas when they would all be stuck on easy cas if they didnt make it a point system

[granite turret]

Apparently 2% of ppl are elite, accounting for ppl that have at least 1 CA

Which is lower than I would have thought

[paper escarp]

I got elite while barely going for CAs more than the easy killcount ones

just shows how small the amount of players actively going for the top CAs are

[granite turret]

I wouldn't even have hard if it was still the old system, I ain't doing Huey for hides

[night zephyr]

My 16 PB was exactly needed for the GM one. Nicee

[proven owl]

do we know if old pbs still count towards the cas this time?

ah nvm saw text right after i wrote

[night zephyr]

Dang just realized another buff for the WGS delayers

Can do the prayer task with ancient mace spec on TDs

[proven owl]

i very much doubt you'll struggle so much that the extra 30-40 prayer will matter for you

itll be a lot faster to not waste an hour getting a good spec on tds before ur attempt

[granite turret]

It's going to be easy yeah

[night zephyr]

Also a scobo will prob help/save more time than the prayer gain

Just thought it's funny

[proven owl]

i just think it's funny that some redditors are gonna lose their mind over it and rage over every prayer related ca for the rest of this games existence lol

[granite turret]

Ppl talking about fight caves CA as if that's the one preventing them from getting GM lol

[fast latch]

Gonna give em rsi for life doing no prayer tasks once

[night zephyr]

Oh I saw a good comment. I wonder if the melee punish finishing a kill ruins that task

[fast latch]

It does

[night zephyr]

That's gonna be annoying lol

[proven owl]

will have to punch the punish i guess to make sure it does no dmg

[night zephyr]

Hope you don't hit

If it shields at like 10 hp

[fast latch]

Tbf it's a very inflated number imo, do 5 wtodts and you'll have any ca

[granite turret]

That's fair

[proven owl]

that'll be the real gm task, drop half ur inventory and unequip all ur gear in time to not get 1 shot by the punish

[granite turret]

It would be cool to see the full breakdown per CA tier

[night zephyr]

Brew down preemptively

I also put no weight into the CA %s seeing as any PVM bot not banned would still be in that count.

And even a good amount of Skilling bots are in that count

[granite turret]

[proven owl]

i wonder if the 1h melee wep is gonna be another one of those extremely rare cases where i'm depressed that i'm dry on inq mace

[north axle]

715 is pretty rough

[proven owl]

or if emberlight is actually gonna be decent despite the insane def

[granite turret]

Just ember yeah

[north axle]

Is ember really better than hasta

[proven owl]

i haven't done any calcs i just know the boss has crazy stab/slash def

[north axle]

No scythe allowed is a bit cringe

[granite turret]

Dwh and ember seems like it would be decent

Dunno tho

[north axle]

Inq mace is up 30m

[fast latch]

😭

[granite turret]

Hasta is slightly better in my setup with no dwh spec, after 1 ember wins

Might be better to run vw or something tho

Or idk if that counts as magic

[stuck cape]

Well then you could just Nox hally it

For the speed you just tank the grub phase dmg, saves around 15s every time

[north axle]

Can you pneck it

Or do you you just pack yak

[night zephyr]

I'm thinking to do the melee 1-8 and the equip a shield 1-8 task on the same run

[granite turret]

Same

[night zephyr]

no dfs :(

can you buy the obby shield?

[granite turret]

[[obby shield]]

[marsh hound]

Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Toktz-ket-xil

[granite turret]

Yes

[night zephyr]

nice and its a master stash so may as well get it for that ca if i do both at same time

[north axle]

Wdym

Shield is just crossbow and holy water

It's free

Also apparently a defender is not a shield

[night zephyr]

Equipping a shield the whole time doesn't slow down melee too much. I'd rather do that at same time than have to rcb an entire 1-8 also

My rcb is gonna be way worse DPS than emberlight lol

Maybe bring dds or a salad blade for the melee punish

[north axle]

Melee was pretty rough when I was trying it on launch

[night zephyr]

Not saying it's gonna be easy. Just I think it's worth to get both done at same time.

[stuck cape]

It’s only 1-8 so you should have tons of space

[night zephyr]

Yeah prob tank quite a few slams and just keep dpsing

[stuck cape]

Prot melee cuts melee dmg in half iirc

But you only need 1-8 once, you don’t have to rush it

[granite turret]

Double rock block prob goes hard here

[night zephyr]

Will have to do multiple car phases.

[granite turret]

Or wait did that not work on 8

Only 8+

[stuck cape]

I could see just dds and tank stomps

[plucky turret]

surely buckler counts for shield right?

[stuck cape]

Surely

[night zephyr]

It's also gonna be worth it to get the +50 damage out of every shield phase

[stuck cape]

For what

[granite turret]

Melee

[stuck cape]

Idk I feel like it should be free since it’s just a 1-8

Just pray melee and hit the boss

[granite turret]

I think it'll be harder than that

[stuck cape]

You can bring 17 brews

[granite turret]

That's true lol

[night zephyr]

Yeah it's not gonna be too bad if you've perfected double boulder flicking

[stuck cape]

You can still deal w grubs and trees with range

Just can’t hit boss

W8 prob tricky but I feel like you can just take it slow and hit when it feels safe

[night zephyr]

Full oath + ember is actually good DPS too

[stuck cape]

Is magic any good dps, like can you purging staff dark demonbane the shield task

Or shadow the no Demonbane kill

[granite turret]

Purging breaks the CA right

[night zephyr]

No clue. But Bofa is like 10-15% worse than scobo

So that won't be too bad

[stuck cape]

The shield task I mean

[night zephyr]

Bofa+ blowpipe

[stuck cape]

Oh easy

Manual cast mage grubs and 2 hit melee and range

[granite turret]

Yep

You don't have to manual either

[night zephyr]

Don't have to manual cast can still bring a skull Sceptre I think

[stuck cape]

Oh true true

Also the acid one doesn’t say what wave

So you can literally just like iron knife the boss on wave 3-4-5 to make tons of acid , then move the car on wave 5 to make even more acid

But also that one might be passive just from killing the boss

[night zephyr]

Yeah would rather just get that passively.

[granite turret]

Yeah that's just any long orb lol

[wise spire]

Bro some of these actually look really hard

[granite turret]

The speed for sure

[wise spire]

The speed is insane

[night zephyr]

I'm not even gonna try for sub 7:15 without Tbow

I have easier tasks to go for for my master CAs lol

I think I'll do every other task though

[wise spire]

The melee I don't know if I'll be able to do

[granite turret]

Emberlight is still like 9 dps, I just don't know how much dmg you take dealing with melees/car etc

[wise spire]

Car is going to be a pain in the ass

[night zephyr]

You'll have plenty of supplies to tank a lot of stomps

[wise spire]

Not when you eat constant 2t melee attacks like I will

[granite turret]

Definitely gonna be stepping back

Lol

[unborn girder]

Did some of the CAs not automatically update for you guys?

For instance, I've definitely defeated doom during his meele charge phase a bunch of times but that was isn't showing as complete for me

[granite turret]

That one wasn't listed as retroactive right

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1393419290589265960/1412752934772539433/firefox_OGcyY5riIL.png?ex=68b97033&is=68b81eb3&hm=df83f2f4be2ce296f84a7b5bd17874212b2c080fb14c566f20ef0485f8cb3e52&

"drift" is the one you're talking about

[unborn girder]

Ahh I see

I didn’t read the post

Yet

[night zephyr]

I think all the ones that made sense to be auto completed were auto completed. No way/need for them to keep track of how you finished off doom

[granite turret]

Yep

[unborn girder]

Yeah fair enough

[stuck cape]

I think the speed isn’t so bad you just have to tank grub specials and veng melee hits

Go into each wave venged with veng available, skip the grub special,

[unborn girder]

Ty 🙂

[night zephyr]

think this is a good no demonane setup for non tbowers

[granite turret]

How good is just piping

[night zephyr]

not very good

[granite turret]

Looks better to me

I guess if no masori it might be close

[night zephyr]

yeah zero masori for me

would rather the range from bofa

[arctic niche]

🤝

[main briar]

hmm my pb was like 8:56 lol

but ig +5 max hits from boots+arrows, having zcb now and skipping grubs should all save a lot

[arctic niche]

scy punish is also insane for speed but again insane gear

[north axle]

boots

I really wanted boots before speed release but it wasn't on the cards

[weary garden]

Damn. My delve pb is one off the CA lmao

[unborn girder]

30 second wave 1 is kind of difficult without Tbow/rigour isn’t it?

[north axle]

even with tbow

[unborn girder]

I mean I’ve done a ton an my pb is 38 seconds

[arctic niche]

i think i have 32 second that one seems pretty possible with easy resets/bigger melee punish switches

[north axle]

it's a toootal crapshot

[weary garden]

I’ve done it with chally / scobow

[north axle]

I regularly have 50s wave 1s

my pb is a 25

if bow hits it hits

[unborn girder]

Wow I guess I haven’t had luck then

[weary garden]

Chally is the key to that with lucky melee procs

[north axle]

if you get 73 melee punishes it's really easy

boss can just decide to die

[arctic niche]

tbowers from what i seen bring nox hally so they dont get good punishes and theres alot of chances pre race car waves

to punish

[weary garden]

I swapped to nhally too with scobow. Anything to minimize acid

[unborn girder]

Yeah I guess with resets eventually will get it. Idk, I’m at 38 seconds with like over 200 something wave 1s. Always chally specing with piety when available

[arctic niche]

if u do a ruby reset into some challys with big melee switches i doubt that ones rough personally

[unborn girder]

And it’s like impossible to miss tics or mess up on wave 1

[unborn girder]

Good idea

[north axle]

with hasta i assume you bring emberlight for car phase

[weary garden]

To be fair, my PB is 1 tick under the speed time lol. So it may be harder, but it’s possible with scobow/ chally/ rigour

[unborn girder]

Dark light but yeah

[north axle]

no for dps

[night zephyr]

ive got 3 ticks off the wave 1 task without every trying for it

thats with scobo/chally

thats not gonna be bad

[unborn girder]

Dark light for the grubs I use or maybe I’m misunderstanding what you’re asking

[unborn girder]

No rigour here unfortunately

[arctic niche]

double dclaw 7way wave 1

[night zephyr]

anyone check if thralls fails the melee ca?

[unborn girder]

Oh you were referring to the meele only Ca my bad. Thought you were replying to my previous post

[main briar]

pb was 26 w1 but that was with lots of melee switches and shit when running 1-7s

also a reason to take inq out of the bank https://i.imgur.com/YyWM35U.png

[north axle]

is that on full def or dwh?

[main briar]

full

[north axle]

9 dps better than i expected tbh

[main briar]

with a maul it's 10.1 vs 10.8

[north axle]

and you also fail the CA because maul is two handed

:^)

[main briar]

oh ye

[north axle]

but dwh should be pretty accurate

I'll just do every CA after work

only really worried about the speed

[arctic niche]

u guys think thats worth over dps specs? with car phase?

ig u only get dds though

[night zephyr]

obby shield aint too much worse

ima go for both tasks at same time after work

if you have dfs you dont lose maxes.

just the accuracy

[main briar]

yeah that sounds better than zcb camp tbh...

[night zephyr]

if you could chally during melee task i wouldnt do it

but you can only use 1 handed melee weapons

[main briar]

gonna need someone to cook a car method

[heady flicker]

Buy inq!!!!

[arctic niche]

tanking stomps doesint seem to bad worst case imo

[main briar]

yeah I am definitely doing dfs inq instead of doing some zcb dogshit lol

wait i goofed

https://i.imgur.com/hxDqNAl.png

or with dfs https://i.imgur.com/SJWMaAM.png

[night zephyr]

may as well get both tasks with worse dps out the way at the same time

[timber sandal]

These look fun and frustrating

Are hcims like muts cooked?

[main briar]

I mean anything that means sitting at 8+ for a long time is spooky

[night zephyr]

i think the 16 will be most dangerous for them

[timber sandal]

The no prayer one is free unless they say ending kill on melee punish loses the CA? Wtf?

[night zephyr]

muts was only rnging deep delves skipping double boulder + orb

[main briar]

should be fine to just... not go below 99 before w8

[timber sandal]

So make sure u keep anglers in inven cause u can't brew down lol

[night zephyr]

cant you have brews + menaphites?

[main briar]

can bring reg restore pots if you want

[night zephyr]

or reg restore yea

[main briar]

tech from the 0-pray jad

[timber sandal]

I know the grub master one is gonna piss me off today when I go for it lol

[night zephyr]

shouldnt be too bad

usually grubs go in from trying to quickly go to your lure tile and avoid acid at same time

just tank the damage if needed.

[timber sandal]

For the shield one, is rcb doable?

[bitter relic]

melee one do you just tank the slams

[night zephyr]

rcb is doable but ember + oath is gonna be way better dps

[bitter relic]

i just died to 6 to prevent damage and forgot the 99 spec

[night zephyr]

I died on 8 my first nondemonbane attempt to that

kept bofaing it lol

[bitter relic]

i mean during car phase

its hard to hit boss and go behind boulders

u can only melee it

[north axle]

it's not a speedrun

[bitter relic]

i know it isn't but then ur sacrificing dps which means more grubs

usually 2nd set of grubs spawn closer to boss

[north axle]

emberlight/hasta/ember avernic/ hasta avernic

[night zephyr]

Embers also gonna be way better on car phase DPS.

I don't think you ever hasta tbh.

[raw sand]

dds was pog in car phase

[night zephyr]

Dds gonna go hard lol

Looking forward to this ca after work

[main briar]

Did my 1 run for the free shit, will do the rest after work https://i.imgur.com/hOSTduS.png

[night zephyr]

I'm not gonna bother with the holy water I think. Just gonna use knives

[main briar]

Yeah piping grubs was fine for the no-demonbane, surely it's fine for this too

[arctic niche]

what does holy water do?

what ca is it for?

[main briar]

Killing range grubs with a shield on

[night zephyr]

1 shots ranged grubs in 1 action

Instead of 2 tapping them with knives

CBA to make those and knives do the same thing just 1 tick slower so just gonna do that

Speed doesn't matter

[arctic niche]

whats attack range on the water?

[night zephyr]

4 tiles on rapid, 6 on long ranged. Which I guess you could always be on long ranged

So same as knives but you get to go to 6 because demonbane has the special effects of not delaying you

[north axle]

Maybe I'd be better off saving my holy water for the next time it's useful

[raw sand]

Kinda annoying that grubs damage off-shield fails melee ca

[main briar]

oh widega just did sunlight crossbow hmm

[tulip spade]

redditors complaining about content they don't do, standard

[nova solstice]

Why is there 15 cas goddamn

This shit be a raid

[night zephyr]

Wait that is kinda lame. Do thralls fail it too?

[main briar]

lol kirby is doing some dh cooking

[signal cipher]

isnt 15 cas pretty standard for most bosses

[mighty rain]

another set of easy CAs

[signal cipher]

nm prob has like almost 30 cas between the two of them

nex only has 11

looks like it ranges a lot

[raw sand]

I didnt use thralls, no idea

[tulip spade]

raids have like 40-50 CAs each lol this is nowhere near that

[main briar]

Ggs have 15

[night zephyr]

Regardless of the amount. I think the CAs are varied/unique enough that it doesn't seem out of place for it to have 15 CAs

It's not like ggs where you finish 8 CAs on your first kill.

[main briar]

I have 5 done before logging in. Did 4-5 more on my first run

Now what's left is the actual kinda hard stufr

[night zephyr]

I guess tbowers get a lot more on their first KC than scoboers since non demonbane doesn't really change anything for them.

[unborn girder]

I had 3 done (delve 3, 8, 16). Think I’m going to have trouble with the timed CAs with my gear/prayers unfortunately

[north axle]

For the speed?

[main briar]

Ye

[north axle]

And I think the Cas are good

It's 5 or so interesting gms

[night zephyr]

10 minutes is very easy with scobo if you are actually going for it. 7:15 not so much.

[main briar]

For a budget one

[north axle]

And a bunch of passive ones

[main briar]

Probably the first 'bow req" task

[winter garden]

Any1 do the melee wep one? I didn’t realize grub damage fails it that’s crazy 😂

[main briar]

Unless they really cook

[north axle]

I'd like them to make grubs not fail melee 1h,and holy water proc not fail prayer

[north axle]

You can do anything with enough resets

If you get a 99th percentile melee punish run you just do 1000000 damage

[night zephyr]

Holy water not proc prayer fail would make that task even more trivial. Despite making it a bit less annoying.

I don't think that's a good trade off

Just kick the boss

[unborn girder]

That’s the 1-8 in 10 mins one right? Im not sure what my time is currently on that. This is one of the ones that would have autocompleted if you already done it ya?

[north axle]

Might bring flowers tbh

Actually what happens if you melee proc with a negative str bonus from flowers? Do you heal the boss?

[unborn girder]

Ehh I think I’m at like 10:30. kind of tough without rigour

[night zephyr]

Don't wait for shield phase 1-5 and you literally have the time already.

You just wouldn't get it on a money kill

[main briar]

Good news: rigour is pretty quick to get and theres no rush to do every ca

[unborn girder]

Wdym don’t wait for shield phase

[night zephyr]

You don't hit it with demonbane. Does big damage to you but skips that whole phase.

10 seconds quicker than waiting for 4 grubs

[unborn girder]

Ya I’ll definitely be back sometime in future with at least some upgrades to get the grandmaster PB time. No chance currently I don’t think

[unborn girder]

Ohhh I see. Yeah that’ll save a bunch of time

[fickle bobcat]

why is there no kc ca wtf

i need my bondie tears

[unborn girder]

What would the kc task look like other they reaching a certain depth?

[sullen sable]

I'm guessing like 25 deep delves or somethign

but there's already so many cas

[unborn girder]

I could have seen that now that you mention it

Not necessarily that number but something similar

[sullen sable]

I assume veng/recoil fails the melee task? I haven't been on yet

[timber sandal]

took two tries but was fun

[raw sand]

Yeah was annoying

[winter garden]

was easier than i thought

was stressing hard over grubs whole time tho lol

[burnt lichen]

for this achievement, do you need to face tank the 99 dmg?

oh you could manual cast demonbane

[paper escarp]

Manual cast right

Or use the skull sceptre

[winter garden]

i used slay staff

[main briar]

Skull sceptre/pipe/double hit melee and it's very chill

[autumn fulcrum]

How do u 3t bow w pipe?

I remember hearing about that but i don’t remember how it’s executed

[main briar]

Bow, pipe a grub, repeat

[autumn fulcrum]

Tyty

[burnt lichen]

for this one:

 Defeat the Doom of Mokhaiotl at level 8 before he finishes his first burrow phase.

does it have to be exactly level 8, or do they mean 8+?

[vagrant trout]

they said it works for 8+ they just can't hot fix the CA text

or maybe it's not in yet

[civic surge]

@unborn girder -.- 3rd pet

[keen rapids]

im having fun

[burnt lichen]

do the grubs damaging the boss count as damaging the boss with something other than a one handed melee attack?

[keen rapids]

yes

but not during the shield, i guess cause its not "real" hp

[winter garden]

jfc accidentally had amy arrows for the speed lol

made it by 3 seconds tanking shields 3-6

[north axle]

What was setup?

[winter garden]

max range/zcb with 4 way scythe

[acoustic oak]

Does surge pot tick down between waves?

If so u could milk and get like 2 chally zcb or something

[whole bronze]

What's the consensus on thrall usage? Should I be summoning them once shield phase starts, car phase starts, or just not bother to minimize acid?

[winter garden]

i stopped bringing them entirely for regular kc runs

[burnt lichen]

can u thrall?

voidwaker spec is not counted as a one-handed melee attack

that fails the achievement

[night zephyr]

I heard cannot thrall

[granite turret]

Can it be melee thrall?

[winter garden]

Not sure didn’t bring

[main briar]

I strongly doubt it, since they are not a 1h melee weapon

[worldly jungle]

It doesn't

Tooltip lies unfortunately

For 1-8 speed is there anything cool you can veng?

[burnt lichen]

whew

might as well just do both of those achievements at once

[night zephyr]

Chins is kinda big brain for the extra range.

I'm gonna do that if I have enough

[main briar]

pot hunter rumours

(I won't)

[night zephyr]

I think I have like 250 reds from a bit of rumours that should be plenty if I don't fail the task a bunch

[winter garden]

with chins u just killed al range grubs far away then?

[night zephyr]

You have to kill them far away regardless

[winter garden]

well not for shield phase

[night zephyr]

I assume they don't damage shield phase but maybe @burnt lichen can confirm

[dense ginkgo]

I'm more surprised that it's only a 1:4.5 and 1:3.4 GM:Master ratio and Master:Elite ratio

I thought it would be like 1:10 and 1:5

.13% seems really high for GM

I wonder if there's any other qualifiers beyond just having any CA not mentioned in the image

[main briar]

Surely just about any account has at least 1 ca

Other than bots

[dense ginkgo]

Like "if they're flagged to be banned on the next banwave they don't count" or "if they don't have an active subscription they don't count"

[dense ginkgo]

Even bots get some passively

[keen rapids]

haha yes i love having to kill double grubs during earth shield without them being anywhere near the boss or else i fail the melee only ca

[bitter vortex]

isn't there a CA for 100 thrall damage kinda hard to not have anything

[main briar]

That task definitely looks way worse than the rest

[keen rapids]

speed is annoying, im close but im putting that off for now in case they decide to nerf it for whatever reason

[main briar]

I'll do it today hopefully.

If I had worse gear I'd put it off

[dense ginkgo]

Most bots level combat through Scurrius nowadays too

[granite turret]

How do you know

[dense ginkgo]

Find a bot in the wild -> check hiscores

[heady flicker]

That’s how he did it

[granite turret]

Likely story

[heady flicker]

grAI nine, literally AI bot

[dense ginkgo]

And one of the CAs is just "kill Scurrius once"

[nimble crest]

this 1-8 is nuts

[burnt lichen]

oh i hadnt thought of that, i never ran into that problem

[acoustic oak]

If I’m going for gm time without scythe, is chally specing punish or insta zcb better damage/spec energy?

[burnt lichen]

the speed time?

[acoustic oak]

Any knowers?

[nimble crest]

ye

dont have zcb so feels like its just rng and cos u gotta tank shields its not fun

[unborn girder]

Now my next unique will be the tert pet too XD

[north axle]

You can just leak

It's not a perfect task

And you're leaving after 8 anyway

[keen rapids]

oh

[granite turret]

@shell kraken you hit it with a non melee weapon, just use darklight/ember for that task, idk why you'd try and do both no demonbane and melee

[shell kraken]

My clip only happens every now and then, it fucked me on lvl 8 before I started recording

Because of my gear options it should be quite free to just clear 3 ca's in one run

[granite turret]

its not a bug, you're supposed to use melee 1h, you used a demonbane spell on the boss lol

[shell kraken]

Yes but on shield phase

That works fine

It just sometimes seem to bug out

[granite turret]

where does it clarify that

[shell kraken]

You can damage the shield with anything, even with the grubs that would fail the CA outside of shield phase

[granite turret]

if it works on shield that sounds like a bug

not the other way around

[shell kraken]

How come? The shield is a separate HP bar, you're not damaging the boss

You're basically saying that to do the CA correctly, you also have to kill the whole shieldphase without the help of the grubs

(or just tank the hit)

[granite turret]

you don't attack the boss to kill grubs

[shell kraken]

No but the grubs damage the sield. If you have exploding grubs damage the boss outside of shield phase, the CA fails as well

So you have to kill all the grubs (outside shield phase) before it reaches the boss

[granite turret]

[shell kraken]

Have you even tried the ca's yet or no

[granite turret]

I attempted melee but didn't have that issue, died to stomps, went to work

But I'm running ember so I hit boss

[shell kraken]

You probably used emberlight

Yeah idk. I could do that but I shouldnt have to

[granite turret]

It should be one or the other then

[shell kraken]

I mean I guess but my clip happens like once every 10-20 shield phases

[keen rapids]

yippee!

[shell kraken]

So it feels like the way I'm attempting it should work, especially because it matches with how the grubs behave to the boss/CA

[granite turret]

It makes sense thematically to me you don't attack the boss with anything other than melee, idk if grubs damaging should fail but you can just let them through if its annoying no?

[main briar]

https://i.imgur.com/FPLMXbO.png
https://i.imgur.com/600HFNi.png

human wave 3 and that would be free lol

[shell kraken]

They deal more and more damage so I want to save the ones going in for the later waves

[shell kraken]

Grubs damaging the boss fail the CA. Grubs damaging the shield doesn't fail the CA

So I'm just running with that logic

And what I do works most of the times, it just really fucked me over 10 minutes ago on wave 8 on the second shield phase

[granite turret]

Have you ever been able to cast demon on shield and it didn't fail?

[shell kraken]

Yeah 90%+ of the time

[granite turret]

I see

[shell kraken]

I got to second shield phase on wave 8 doing this method and I was still eligible for them all

It just sometimes doesnt seem to properly 'start' the shield phase or something

[hot oar]

i guess pneck tick eat isn't possible?

[granite turret]

Damn
Guess it calcs the tick it hits you?

[keen rapids]

messy af wave 8, had to survive half the wave with 6 hp

just perfection left to go

[north axle]

losingmymind

equip wand canceled interaction causing me to path into the boss

[shell kraken]

yeah that is so annoying, got me a couple times with yama contracts as well

[north axle]

can you tickeat the stomp?

tea might just be the play if so

[keen rapids]

idk

[dense ginkgo]

I'm pretty sure you can

[north axle]

skull sceptre autocast demonbane is allowed right

[winter garden]

I used slay staff so I assume that is fine

[north axle]

thanks

[night zephyr]

Anyone one else get the weird interaction where if you cancel a melee shield + boulder the tick it starts and it decides to fire another boulder right after? It disabled my prayer during the orbs of the first boulder and made the damage unavoidable.

[unborn girder]

Look who I found

@civic surge Any more pets today?

[north axle]

speed to go

[north axle]

jagex said they fixed it but they didnt

been like that since launch

[night zephyr]

I thought they fixed it where if you melee to early you get two different orbs that you can't pray against.

I guess I didn't see people talking about prayer getting disabled and causing unavoidable damage. Seems like it only will ever happen for melee kills.

[spiral quail]

Do you just camp next to boss praying melee for Duel?

[night zephyr]

No you do stepbacks

[north axle]

they said that

they just didnt actually do it

[civic surge]

Nope, no nothin' today. 🙁

Besides the 3rd pet. lol

I'll get another 4 hours or so tomorrow probably...

[night zephyr]

But this is a different kind of unavoidable damage to that

Like it would need a different fix

[north axle]

Is there any spec besides ZCB even worth using on low floors?

does chally beat scythe?

actually dknives are still good on full def

12.6dps vs 10 for me

[heady flicker]

I saw it for the melee task, but would DDS not be really strong for the speed time too? Gotta be the highest dps on car phases

[north axle]

these knives go fast

[worldly jungle]

The doom CA was surprisingly fun to get. 7 brews for 0:28/0:29/0:43/0:54/0:58/1:13/1:12/1:01

[north axle]

with zcb?

[worldly jungle]

Yeah

[north axle]

I'm reseting for a big bow on 1st hit of 1

[north axle]

don't think this is tick eatable

[unborn girder]

ah, me neither. Hit 18 again today though

[dense ginkgo]

oh weird, I wonder if they changed it or if I mis-saw one time

[north axle]

might just wait for boots tbh

this is fucking rough

[clear edge]

Without tbow, what weapon should be mainly used for Darkness is your ally?

[worldly jungle]

I'd probably crossbow/knives + shield and do Mine's Better at the same time

[clear edge]

Aight, thanks

[worldly jungle]

Oh and if you have ralos, 3 ralos is almost 0 defence

[clear edge]

unfortunately i don't, is dwh worth it in this case?

[whole bronze]

A little late to the party, but can someone explain/give a step-by-step on how to deal with double boulders? Does turning prayer on before the second boulder explodes turn your prayer off and make it so that you can't turn it back on in time for the first hit?

[shell kraken]

The second boulder explodes before the projectiles from the first one hit you. You have a tick to turn on your prayer after the second one explodes

[whole bronze]

Ah okay got it. So would it be, run away from boulders/shadows, (2nd explodes) flick flick flick, step, flick flick flick?

[spice nest]

Minus da last flick but yus

Well you have longer time to react to da 7th proj from doom if it comes to dat

[clear edge]

Dodge first attack (move away from initial position) -> wait 1 t -> move into one of the shadows from first boulder -> flicks

[timber sandal]

first doom of the day and its my first wave 11 clear

[north axle]

Very patriotic inventory tags I'll allow it

[night zephyr]

Chally and skull Sceptre are two of the only items I've ever considered inventory tagging

I swear those things look identical at a glance

[main briar]

chally/sang

[vocal girder]

Does any1 know when do the immunity ticks start when you trigger car phase?

[unborn girder]

flick, flick, flick, (click boss, or second tree, or move to better spot to keep up with orb), flick, flick

[unborn girder]

16 in no time

Soon you’ll be reach 11 without having sipped any brews 😄

[timber sandal]

I hope so! It's just sucks that my dps is so bad

I get second shield phase what feels like every single time

[civic surge]

Over time and experience, I actually find I have the opposite problem. I clear before orb so often it actually messes up my acid clearing quite a bit. I think that problem will decrease as you miss fewer ticks.

[tulip spade]

with scobow and no pipe i think you are gonna get second shield pretty commonly

[heady flicker]

Do people run dragon darts in their bp for this?

[shell kraken]

I do but i dont 100% bp car phase

Mainly just for heals

[tulip spade]

i do. seems like as good a place as any to use them

[night zephyr]

I don't, I keep as much BP uptime as possible. Doesn't really feel worth it for 1 max hit.

If you have treads it's 2 max hits though

[hot oar]

that was awful

~10 hours for this speed time

[worldly jungle]

Zcbless?

10 hours seems brutal

[shell kraken]

10 hours doesnt sound like average

[north axle]

The boots are 5% extra dps

[hot oar]

Yeah, no scythe or zcb

[north axle]

What was setup?

[hot oar]

i tanked shield f3-7

if i had enough food to tank 8 i would

Beam Damage
3: 60
4-5: 80
6+: 99

pneck proc f 4-7

[shell kraken]

Have you considered not pnecking, but just brew/rangepotting after big boom instead?

[hot oar]

need melee stats for shield punish

[shell kraken]

Ah yeah

Valid

[granite coyote]

Then click restore too

[shell kraken]

Hm yeah might be worth actually

If the more hp in ur inv allows for tanking 8 as well

Did you make many mistakes in the runs? 10 hours sounds brutal with your gear

[hot oar]

tanking f8 is only like 5-7 second time save btw

oh no

essentially 0 mistakes

[shell kraken]

[hot oar]

i killed myself to dumb shit twice, but were on mostly doomed runs

[shell kraken]

You did not finish many attemps then or did u

[hot oar]

most of the time spent was resetting <f5

i only i finished 6 attempts

[shell kraken]

Since u got the master task on the speed completion as well

[hot oar]

no, 5

there is no master speed task

only gm

[shell kraken]

The kill in carphase one

[hot oar]

the master task was killing it while its still burrowed

[shell kraken]

Which should be really common

With tbow/knifes

[hot oar]

'really common' this guy doesnt know my rng

[shell kraken]

Unlucky Dave

[granite coyote]

Just hit big number and one and done it ez

[hot oar]

i had a 5:45 s7 finish

& managed a 1:45 f8 lol

that shit had me beyond tilted

[shell kraken]

What did u reset for

[hot oar]

s0:40 f1-2

and hope for s0:50 f3-4

the run i got it i had a 0:27 f1 and 0:35 f2

and i think i pb'd f4 with like a 0:48

[shell kraken]

well atleast u got it now

[hot oar]

now i get to go do all the others & get gm back

[shell kraken]

the melee one is quite fun to learn

since u dont have zcb 0time it with the equip shield one

[hot oar]

that was my plan

w/ chins for range weapon & maybe a slayer staff or something to autocast demonbane

[shell kraken]

yeah i just used steel darts

[hot oar]

& i guess dds for spec on car

[shell kraken]

yup

[hot oar]

then have the rock placement for null, and try to wall camp it ig

[shell kraken]

you can let it drive a bit and not get hit by it while still dpsing it from the side

you just step out before it moves basically then click it as it drives

but yeah i nulled first one, and on 8 i just tanked the other 2 stomps

[unborn girder]

We’re in same boat. Runs arrows, scobo, deadeye. Even with near 100% uptime on blowpipe I still get 2nd shield phase 75% time. The good news is once you get really good. You’re only limited by the mistakes you make and time (restores and ranging pots)

[night zephyr]

I think I'm gonna spend the time and make holy water. I died to big ranged grub spawning + melee punish + boulder attack twice now.

Knives are rough

[shell kraken]

i just ignore the ranged grub in that case

let it go in its w/e

with melee punish theres chance u proc shield phase and still get to kill it

[night zephyr]

I was getting frustrated with accuracy and fumbled. Went through 2 boulders before I got a punish and kept hitting zeros, on the third boulder he still had 96% HP.

[shell kraken]

what the

thats rough yeah

[night zephyr]

Yeah just gotta keep potting I'm sure it'll go

[shell kraken]

i mean a long pre shield phase can be benificial for melee if you dont get fucked by the boulders

since you can just place rock blockers all over the place

and have a comfy car phase where you can mostly dps and still dodge all stomps

[night zephyr]

I need to stop accidentally hitting doom with my magic autocast during shield. Wonder if you can set a plugin up to set doom to left click walk here with your staff equipped.

[shell kraken]

idk

cant u just manually cast

might be an easier solution if the wep switching messes u up sometimes

[main briar]

Any MES that changes based on your equipped gear has to be banned I'm pretty sure

[shell kraken]

doesnt that nyloer plugin literally do this

or is that based on config not on equipped gear

[main briar]

No, it's not based on your gear

You pick the swaps you want to use, then those are set

[shell kraken]

Is it even the nyloer plugin

[main briar]

Yes

Cheat clients have one that changes based on your gear, but those are cheating

[shell kraken]

ah the role menu swaps was not in the readme of the nyloer github

but found it yeah

[night zephyr]

Funny how they draw the line there. I get it has to be drawn, but arguably nyloer is more impactful than something like that

I guess nyloer is just seen as QOL since you could just only do ranged role or have different profiles for each role and have those nylos be on top every time.

[shell kraken]

Yeah was about to say

If you think nyloer is too op then custom mes is just too op

Which it probably is lol

[worldly jungle]

Shhhhhh don't tell jagex

[shell kraken]

I wont

[past otter]

dose pre sipping a prayer enhance fail the no prayer restore ca? i would assume yes but havent tried it yet

[shell kraken]

yes

but the ca is really free

just dont pray rigour and lazy flick your overheads

you can ancient mace in your poh before hand to go in with more prayer

also be careful you dont proc the holy water thing (kill with melee punish), if the holy water restores ur prayer it also fails the CA

so if that happens just tank the hit

[vagrant trout]

or kick boss

[main briar]

It's pretty easy to flick the early waves so you aren't below 99 prayer so the restore won't fail it

[timber sandal]

I think it's a dps check problem no? Like my gear isn't good enough? Or is it a skill issue for me

[timber sandal]

Exactly

[timber sandal]

Completely. And I even use D arrows for wave 8+.

[civic surge]

What's the gear exactly?

[timber sandal]

scobo rune arrows deadeye no BP no zcb

was going for the no prayer CA

and then on wave 6 pulled this

feelin spooned!

now the question becomes

do i take eye and go to zulrah for BP

before going back to doom

or not even worth to do zulrah without occult

guess i should DPS check it

[civic surge]

Ah no BP I get it. BP is most of the big DPS.

[civic surge]

Zulrah with bowfa chally now is really good imo

[timber sandal]

absolutely, wish i could use it. makes me wanna go get it now before i go back for treads

[timber sandal]

even w/o noxious?

i only have 89 slay

[civic surge]

I would just use chally and spec melee phase with it.

That's how I did it and it was very comfy. And quite a bit quicker than bowfa only.

[timber sandal]

so i just dont even use eye/mage?

[civic surge]

I wouldn't, unless you calc the DPS in your gear is good enough to warrant it.

Which it sounds like it's probably not. But worth calcing.

[timber sandal]

great, thank you malik

[night zephyr]

Confliction gauntlets gonna carry tbh. It might be

[timber sandal]

I did the calcs.. not sure whats best tbh

[glad arch]

Anyone have an example of someone doing 16 with scobow?

[shell kraken]

You mean a video?

[night zephyr]

I've done it, but like a video?

[shell kraken]

Done it as well but didnt record it sorry

Not much to it though, you dont really need to care about cleaning that much

[night zephyr]

I recall someone posting a vid of something close to 20 in here with scobo

[heady flicker]

https://youtu.be/iDdk1BEJQkM?si=Gk055Bkc86BqpeK0

Credit to @wary oriole

[glad arch]

aight, I won't care too much about it

[shell kraken]

Only if you want to go much past it you'll have to really pick your cleaning spots

Since scobo over tbow means quite a lot more acid faster

[glad arch]

I've been doing a different strat for the car phase, but this seems a bit more lenient

[glad arch]

tyvm

I was kinda struggling with car phase dps tbh

[civic surge]

@unborn girder I got an item today. It was a dupe cloth. But it's a real item! My first actual item drop in the last 580 deep delves.

[tulip flare]

@wary oriole could you drop these tiles if you get a chance

[wary oriole]

they're widgea's tiles

go to his stream and type !tiles

[shell kraken]

moo

[tulip flare]

pog ty

[night zephyr]

Dont mind me just preparing for a GM CA

@north axle you made 500 of these damn things without a use case? wtf

[north axle]

I just knew

[night zephyr]

This is the most tedious crafting process. I dont remember doing this at all during legends quest

[spice nest]

Just use darts or knives for larvas

[night zephyr]

I'm too committed

wtf im not even half way there

I could've potted 2 full melee attempts in this time. big regretting this

If anyone is thinking about making these. do not.

[north axle]

fuck man

i should have just done a normal wave 8

i had it...

[weary garden]

any cloggers wanna guess whats about to happen to these 2 keys?

[night zephyr]

Send them to the shadow realm. Love an angry clogger

[weary garden]

oops

[main briar]

After like five 7:2x, we got it https://i.imgur.com/7f4NGmF.png

[shell kraken]

gz beast

[main briar]

Time to do it again

[shell kraken]

u have to go to bed soon though

sleep for 12 hours

then stay up for 72

[main briar]

I am going to work tomorrow

[shell kraken]

the fuk

[night zephyr]

praise holy water

[shell kraken]

was it worth ur 3h detour

[night zephyr]

it actually did save me from letting a giant ranged grub in

and idk if I was flicking that last double boulder killed it right before it came out

not worth tho

[main briar]

are they worse to get than crossbowbolts?

[shell kraken]

dont matter task completed

[night zephyr]

think im gonna go back to money kills for a bit and aim for perfect, mopping up, and mokhiatal drift

then i can do praying mantis when im feeling back in the groove and leave the speeds for last (besides gm of course lol)

[night zephyr]

much much worse

But you 2 shot big grubs with 6 tile range at least

saves me from having to do an rcb kill, so i'll take it

[shell kraken]

mopping up is really easy to bruteforce on 5

just thrall and blowpipe first 4 levels

[night zephyr]

maybe i go for that real quick

was just gonna try to get passively

[shell kraken]

if ur trying to just go as deep as possible for ur moneys then yeah get it passively

but if ur just doing 1-8 runs for the perfect, then its prob quite hard to get it passively

[night zephyr]

yeah im usually at least hittin 13

[shell kraken]

ah should be fine to get it passively then

same as the drift one

[night zephyr]

drift can be done 8+ yeah?

[shell kraken]

yes

if u happen to get it really close to 75% at some point with full spec

can just delay for a melee punish to proc it deep

makes it rly free

[night zephyr]

yeah that one will go on any money run

since it allows 9+

[shell kraken]

yea

[unborn girder]

Gz on the unique! Got the item I'm still looking for XD

[weary garden]

lmao. idk if im dumb, but the orb phase variation where he does 3 autos then the boulder is so hard for me. i die to it like 80% of the time

[civic surge]

On to greener pastures for you, then! Grats!

Oh you mean I got the one you wanted?

Then alas you're stuck here with me still

[timber sandal]

Would u guys rather do doom with no BP or zulrah with eye/bowfa but no occult

[night zephyr]

I'd prob do both at same time

if you wanna chill go zulrah

if not go doom

If finishing doom lets you delay zulrah until occult, and getting boots means you go back to slayer and delay zulrah until occult, it's not gonna be a huge difference in time saved at the end of the day

but blowpipe is very nice for doom I will say

Can anyone confirm if debris damage fails perfect doom?

[main briar]

yes

https://i.imgur.com/7UxXEBl.png

[night zephyr]

gotcha

guess il practice making sure i never take secondary debris on 8 before i go seriously for that

[weary garden]

finally!

It was lookin pretty rough too

[night zephyr]

Mopping up should be a breeze looking like that

[north axle]

masori?

[main briar]

ye

[weary garden]

Damn, just did the math and after getting spooned 4 items im finally dry. im due 5 rn

[unborn girder]

Delve 20!

[keen rapids]

perfect doom is making me crout

[granite turret]

I struggled a lot with that one, took most of my time I had yesterday, I make way more little mistakes than I thought lol, esp early

and fuck melee grubs

[wise spire]

I ain't even gonna try for it, I already know I'm going to step on acid at some dumb stupid moment and ruin it

[night zephyr]

Yeah I'm having second thoughts on going for it. Gonna go for the prayer task and the 2 doable speed times, then just go back to my money kills for loot.

Obviously try not to make mistakes on money kills and if I get to 6 or 7 without any then I try to lock in for perfect

[main briar]

might be the worst one

[keen rapids]

I failed wave 7 due to acid I didn't see because of a rock

Then I failed wave 8 because apparently stepping on acid before the boss even spawns fails it

[main briar]

i failed wave 7 at like 30 hp because i just forgot to move to a 3rd rock

[keen rapids]

failed on wave 7 because the earth shield didnt protect me from the slam cause it spawned same tick

[timber sandal]

That's not a bad idea tbh. I've never been one to do two pvm grinds at the same time lol I like locking myself somewhere.

Idk I get so triggered when I have to do a 2nd shield phase on 6, 7, or 8 because moka has 10 hp. I feel like a BP would save so much time in that regard

I would assume 95% of people in this chat use BP tbh

If that's not cause enough to lock myself at zulrah until I get it, idk

Eye/gauntlets + bowfa at zulrah will likely quick quick kills

[civic surge]

You have surpassed me 🙇‍♂️

[timber sandal]

This is insanely good BTW good job. How often do U get double shield phase with your gear? Not often right

[main briar]

did a lil overcooking https://i.imgur.com/SJHl6pm.png

[timber sandal]

Nice tbow lol

[keen rapids]

okay wtf determines when the boss is gonna slam

cause ive never had trouble with hitting the second tree in the middle of the double boulder flicks...til now

[civic surge]

It's 20 ticks or whatever after the trees summon.

No variation.

[timber sandal]

Yall use dragon darts in BP right

[north axle]

i had badd imposter syndrome on that one

then i just locked in and got it

you gotta mean it

[orchid summit]

kinda sad redditors just whining like crazy in the CA thread…i guess it’s nothing new but i’m excited we finally got some new tough GM CAs

[proven owl]

cuz the automatic response from redditors seems to be that it's a gear check if they can't do it

they're here with 10 min pbs saying 7:15 is impossible when good speed times are in the 5-6 min range

[clear edge]

So uhh, any tehc for the 30s p1 ? Don't have tbow/zcb

Been just using chally and spamming scobo specs otherwise

Any other spec weapon I could use to make it more consistent? Or just bring swap for the melee punish?

Kinda cba ruby resetting

[steady heart]

got any claws?

[clear edge]

ya both

[steady heart]

i did 4 way d claw specs with piety snd scb for the melee punish

felt like it was more worth than chally

had this happen to me earlier, thought it was cute

[shell kraken]

Its fast to reset for a natty ruby start if u really struggle

[clear edge]

Just that I've done wave 1 quite many times over the grind and PB is 33s, haven't really tried to speed run it. I guess 4 way melee switch should be enough, haven't tried that one

[steady heart]

i thought the claw 4 hit splat and faster attack cd would be better overall

[clear edge]

makes sense tbh

also not relying on getting a lot of melee punishes, since 2/3 are enough to spend ur specs

[paper escarp]

does surge poit cooldown count down between waves

[clear edge]

got it literally 1st try lmao, thanks

[spice nest]

No it pauses

[paper escarp]

ty

[spice nest]

Can only wait for dc cooldown between waves

[mossy burrow]

guys reckon venator ring would be better than lightbearer if u only use chally for specs?

[worldly nexus]

check to see how many max hits it gives; i personally run venator ring with your setup + avernic (max) and its really good

double death charge is enough to sustain chally

[mossy burrow]

yea thats what it feels like

[weary garden]

darrows in scobow and ddarts in BP and you'll pretty much never get 2nd shield phase unless you're wasting lots of ticks or you intentionally stall dps to clear acid

[night zephyr]

Praying mantis was very easy wow.

110 prayer at rhe start of wave 8, just said screw it and kept rigour on after that

[timber sandal]

Same thing happened to me, ended the challenge with over my max prayer. People on reddit were complaining about this CA too. Ridiculous

[weary garden]

I might try this one soon. you're just flicking the whole time yeah?

[timber sandal]

This is really reassuring and motivating me to do zulrah! Thank you

[timber sandal]

U don't even need to flick that hard, just lazy flick works. Ancient mace beforehand and bring regular restore pots for your brews

[night zephyr]

flicking everything besides boulder

[weary garden]

Yeah honestly if I were you, I'd send zulrah before really trying to grind out doom. makes it way more consistent

[night zephyr]

lazy flicking tho yeah

boulder id just pray the whole thing and 1 tick flick the last prayer

id lazy flick rigour too 1-7 when i had the downtime/on car phase

[weary garden]

Okay, ill probably try that today. Did you do the other GM tasks? Like the shield, melee only, and no demonbane?

[night zephyr]

yeah ive done all besides the perfect and speeds now

im gonna go for the non gm speeds and then settle back down for my money kills and eventually get perfect during money kills.

[weary garden]

Were those challenging at all? What did you use for melee and no demonbane?

[night zephyr]

melee i did full oath/obby shield and emberlight

its like 8.3 dps not too bad.

no demonbane was a slow bofa kill

not challenging just slow

• blowpipe on car of course

[weary garden]

assuming skull sceptre / slayer staff to hit during shield?

[night zephyr]

melee took like 1 hour of attempts i think. (and an hour of making holy water lmao)

yeah skull sceptre autocast for shield

[keen rapids]

yall ever just fail the ca twice in one kc

[night zephyr]

Looks like almost 3 too

[hot oar]

y'all rate this for doing

• melee only
• shield
• no demonbane

tasks all in one go?

[night zephyr]

I think that's a bit silly

Shield + melee is fine, but no demonbane is easy enough to do by itself.

You'd be making melee a good bit harder by never 1 shotting any grubs.

Besides mage

One Bofa kill is like 15-20 minutes. Not too bad. Id reckon you fail melee at least once because of that setup/salad blade makes your cumulative melee attempts more than 15-20 minutes longer

[hot oar]

rip doesnt work bc of shield phase

since you can only demonbane w/ dark demonbane

and it fails melee only

unf

[night zephyr]

Oh yeah that too. I did that on accident a couple times. Forgot about that

[weary garden]

damn, wave 7/8 is hard with melee only lol

can I hit the shield with scobow or does that kill the task?

[night zephyr]

Fail task

Gotta tank some stomps

Make sure you start every car phase at 115

[weary garden]

ima give it one more try then go back to money kills. i cba doing combat tasks until i wanna go for masters lol

[mossy burrow]

is there a plugin like at nylos where if u shoot one of the small worms running at mokha they will just not appear on the screen?

kinda like entity hider hiding dead monsters

[worldly jungle]

Yes it's called Demonic Larva Tracker

[mossy burrow]

ah sweet gonna check it up

thats gonna be a gamechanger at wave 8

[keen rapids]

I would combine shield with no demonbane and do melee by itself, melee is hard enough

[weary garden]

Does grub damage also fail the melee task?

[worldly jungle]

Grubs exploding on the boss yes, grubs entering the boss no

[weary garden]

oh fuck me

[dense ginkgo]

Quickly children

[weary garden]

Yeah cba, back to money kills lmao

[orchid summit]

melee grubs can eatma for perfect

[ivory ravine]

Can anybody explain to me what the timing is for clicking 2nd tree on wave 8. If double boulder is 1st, I deal with boulders then click tree. If it’s 2nd attack then I click tree in between the prayer flicking. I’m not sure what the timing is I get double boulders for the 3rd or 4th attack

[night zephyr]

I wouldn't worry so much about the timing for 3 and 4. Just try to get a long path and click it a little bit before you have to flick.

[night zephyr]

But if you need a tick by tick view. Pecans vid has a nice chart showing.

[ivory ravine]

That’s what I’ve been doing for the most part. Ill check out that video though thanks

[tulip spade]

https://youtu.be/XMWS9U_bKhA?si=yRF1ZjC9-dap2NT4&t=1241

boulder on 3 is a bit tricky as you need to flick while doing your first few ticks of moving with the orb

boulder on 4 is chill, you should be on a straightaway with orb at that point and not need to click for movement while flicking

[placid vortex]

Any advice for not dying instantly at start of w8? Thinking I might just throw up a prayer and combo eat twice tbh

[night zephyr]

Learn to flick the attacks. No point in forcing an 8 clear like that.

[dense ginkgo]

click far away a tick or two before the second rock explodes and click the boss after praying against the 6th hit

then once you're more comfortable click back after praying against the 3rd hit

then try moving and praying against the first hit on the second rock explosion

[green coyote]

you have 3 ticks after a rock breaks before you need to pray, what most people do is see rock break, step on a clear tile, and then step on a shadow from the first rocks debris, this guarantees that youre safe from any of the 2nd rocks debris because it wont fall in the same tiles of the 1st one, dont turn your prayer on until you see a projectile. If melee punish is happening during this, go for the smack and find a shadow to step on and begin pray flicking

[tulip spade]

You can also use the sound of the second boulder exploding as a cue to start praying

And yeah, clicking on a shadow from the first boulder just before the second boulder explodes is the easiest way to guarantee not taking debris damage

if you've done last row insanity at ToA it's the same idea, the same tile can't get hit twice in a row

[worldly jungle]

If they're at the trying not to instantly die stage, looking for shadows to avoid that 15 damage is probably unhelpful vs. currently focusing on prayers

[tulip spade]

true

step 1 is just to be moving as the second boulder pops (so that you don't get stalled) and start flicking when it pops

[weary garden]

I'm so pissed lmao. doom has been so stingy with sunfire splinter drops still. ive burned through about 15k so far and im down to my last 6k. i dont wanna go back to colo again

[night zephyr]

Don't make the same mistake I did. But if you just leave your splinters in there and let it uncharge, it doesn't reset your progress.

If you manually uncharge and take the splinters back though it will reset corruption progress

[weary garden]

thats a great heads up, ty
wild that it works like that

[night zephyr]

It only cost me 2k splinters to figure that out at least

[hot oar]

1 task left

perfect doom took less time than melee only honestly. mostly of my own stupidity

[hot oar]

we done

[weary garden]

Finally got perfect doom! that one is so annoying lmao

[orchid summit]

do i just have to essentially get lucky with acid/melee grub pathing for perfect

this is fucking brutal

[north axle]

not really

you can get fucked but normally you are ok

no thralls

[orchid summit]

not using thralls and using nally

[north axle]

took me a few hours ||I was losing my mind||

[tulip spade]

maybe you have to not get unlucky? IME it's pretty rare for acid to become that big of a problem before 8+

even if your RNG is truly ass you can surely kill the melee grubs somewhere if not on the boss

[orchid summit]

i mean its pretty tough when you have to kill every grub and step on no acid lol. theres a reason this is most peoples last

normally id just take an acid hit from pathing, hard to undo that "3 dmg doesnt matter" mentality

we go againe

[tulip spade]

i never said it was easy xd

just that you shouldn't have to get lucky

[orchid summit]

ya im just frustrated lol ive really only had one run where ive said to myself "wtf can i even do there"

[unborn girder]

@civic surge any luck ?

[unborn girder]

3rd pair of boots on wave 4...

[unborn girder]

No way!!! Green logged 😄

[worldly nexus]

Just let me out of here 🙁

[ebon rampart]

On wave 2

[civic surge]

Congrats! No luck for me.

[weary garden]

Gz! (Spoon)

[wise spire]

haven't had a drop of any kind in months

[dense ginkgo]

Has this boss been out for months

[[Doom]]

[marsh hound]

Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Doom_of_Mokhaiotl

[dense ginkgo]

Month and a half

Total delves: 1,068

I found the issue

[main briar]

Eardrum warning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Rd9gdZqMq4

[winter garden]

Holy he’s done it

[idle fog]

I was so disappointed there was no "18 NAKED COWBOYS IN THE SHOWERS AT RAM RANCH" when the guitar music started

[night zephyr]

Lmao at the no reddit icon

[raw sand]

Satisfying ngl

[granite turret]

Ngl I forgot about the bp grub trick

[weary garden]

My last unique was at 109 deep delves. I’m losing motivation lmao. I want the cloth so bad

[north axle]

lil dry on the shoes but once I get them I'll have glog and I can just do speed time and I'll be done

still having fun though I like the content

[tulip spade]

it is always morally correct to shit on the 2007scape reddit

[alpine jewel]

pretty dry myself too

600 deep delves with only 2 cloths

[ebon rampart]

What ring if no lb. Berserker suffering or shadows is only relevant rings I have

[tulip spade]

just realized he was wearing flippers

of those i'd probably wear zerker for bigger chally specs

[obsidian turret]

delve 1-7 has to be some of the most boring content in osrs

actually just drags on

[shell kraken]

6 and 7 are not terrible but yeah