Yama - May 14

[radiant sky]

the problem is you cant practice with someone forever cuz eventually they get pet and ur likely back to square 1

so going for a ton of practice so you can get 100 kc with 1-2 contracts doesnt seem realistic

basically anyone you could duo with that has practice enough to complete the 100 kc will already have pet unless extremely dry and probably also already has a duo partner

maybe someone sells duo partner services eventually for it

[umbral cradle]

its so stressful running these on iron ngl lol

[atomic surge]

I'm sure within a couple weeks you'll be able to buy pet services with first-death insurance from the provider

like 100m if they die first on your iron contract

[radiant sky]

ye if i somehow dont have pet after grinding out green log for the rest then ill prob buy a service like that

[faint lily]

I wish I would've watched contract videos other than Kirby. I'm sitting here bashing my head learning these stupid throne shadow wave dodges.

Just going to the side is so much easier

More intuitive and feels so much better than following a pattern/relying only on that.

Idk why I thought I had to do the throne dodges, I was dodging on the side all day long day 1 doing mage p3

Can we coffer them yet? I'm hopeful they won't drop as much now that the solves are out for the gamers, but I've been waiting to coffer mine.

[plush shadow]

i liked dodging throne for first part of yama then going to middle to doge when i have frozen on side

[atomic surge]

I like middle, side feels off

[faint lily]

I probably want to just suck it up and learn the throne dodging for bloodied blows eventually.

Seems like it will be more consistent when learned

[misty marlin]

fwiw I never learned to do the L shaped dodge so I could camp one tile, instead I just always did straight patching dodges by aligning myself with the X ahead of time

that's probably less efficient but worked for me

[sudden ocean]

I would think their value would go up now that they're solvable? But idk

The closer they get to being just a free oathplate piece, the closer in price it gets?

Not an economist

[faint lily]

Market is dumb. They've stayed at 75m, but oath is dropping instead.

[atomic surge]

bad rng

[forest lagoon]

I got 6hr logged on one of mine, I also got a work call literally 1 tick after starting one

huh

Does yama roll reg table with oathplate contract too? or is this because its a duo contract or something?

[devout coyote]

i think all the contracts roll unique loot but not reg loot

[forest lagoon]

That's an interesting way to do it

[sudden ocean]

Oh that checks out actually, they should be converging, and then the added decrease because oath+contracts keep coming into the game

[forest lagoon]

surely this will be enough

thats also -10k soul runes lol

[balmy raft]

I liked the L dodges once i learned them because it's easier to do the dodge when you notice it late

[surreal rock]

I never did anything else than l dodges

[forest lagoon]

Its a lot more precise but yeah if you have the clicks then its much better

[surreal rock]

I just waited until everyone had figured out stuff to do radiant contracts 🙂

[quiet flicker]

holy crap this armor looks so bad with red scy + green rancor xd

the white legs look like pantaloons, u dont notice that much when they were still red

[lone storm]

I think green rancor looks cooler in and of itself. Obviously white matches but I don't think the green clashes

[old phoenix]

Great fashion

[lone storm]

Finally. 5/5. Highly recommend the CloudFly method that was linked earlier today. The only method I consistenly improved at every attempt

[opal zealot]

gotta get white graceful boots

[radiant sky]

surely the delve boots are white

[split pagoda]

[misty marlin]

gotta pot holy scythe and avernic treads and also get whitecor

[radiant sky]

im hoping they actually add that set bonus to oathplate to make the torva helm go away

[misty marlin]

is there reason to believe they will? I didn't realize there was even potential for a set bonus

[radiant sky]

eh i think i saw a picture of a reddit comment in this channel where they spoke about it

from a dev

but i dont have the picture and dont remember the exact wording

[quiet flicker]

would be super dumb

torva is already hella devalued from some boss u can easily solo and use no supps on

[plush shadow]

^ye i feel like set bonus would compltely kill torva

[radiant sky]

it would devalue the helm but they would nerf the current stats to make oathplate same strength

[quiet flicker]

ah

i see what u mean

id be fine with that ig

[azure laurel]

would nerf it on task though?

[radiant sky]

ye but some things are worth being nerfed over

just scroll up and look at that abomination

[quiet flicker]

real

[radiant sky]

i wouldnt be totally against a white torva recolour either tho

im all for more challenges that give cosmetic changes

[azure laurel]

SNORWA?

[radiant sky]

would honestly probably look way better than blorva or oathplate

[quiet flicker]

then we need a scy recolor too

i hate holy one

😭

[azure laurel]

It would, and I'm coining snow blorva (snorwa) as something I came up with, for future reference.

[devout coyote]

it would be iceorva though

[azure laurel]

🤮

[plush shadow]

probaly on the miniority on this but i kinda like the idea of mixing armor for bis

i also dont believe in matching is ss tier style

[misty marlin]

just wait until heavy and standard ranged armor comes out and we have to mix and match masori and that

[faint lily]

I swear they stealth patched ruby cheese at glyphic

These are two separate kills b2b. stopped hitting rubies at 20% boss health

[misty marlin]

I ruby reset for Muspah time, it's just how she rolls

[bleak moat]

CLOUDFLY IS GOATED, PEOPLE!

The tiles look like a lot, but holy cow they work

[atomic surge]

every time man why

[bleak moat]

huh?

[atomic surge]

he's staring at me

[bleak moat]

He may be gone, but he'll always live on in my inventory

[quiet flicker]

bro please condense those clue infoboxes into 1

youre hurting me

[lone storm]

It is great, but it's worth moving the 12 tile with the vf tile just SW of it. It's what the creator was doing anyway since it dodges the 2nd fireball, his tileset just never got updated

[bleak moat]

Yeah, I noticed that in the video. I just mimiced his tile movements, including ignoring 7.1 in favor of the dodge

[tired ivy]

Why not 7.1? Haven't tried it yet

[lone storm]

I used 7.1, works fine. You can also just run to 8 straight, dodge wave se and step back. 7.1 is fewer clicks so Idk why other way is "easier"

[bleak moat]

I practiced the pathing a bit before sending the contracts, and I just copied the dodge for the hell of it tbh

[uneven breach]

Where do y’all ffa and what’s the typically expectations for horn/maul/meteors/tanking?

[atomic surge]

gotta be on attempt 70 by now

regressing

but I REFUSE TO LOSE

thank fuck

[misty marlin]

damn bro, you live like this? my ADHD is so distracted by those clues and that inventory lol

[misty marlin]

not even close

[atomic surge]

this isnt even all of them

[bleak moat]

now we're gaming

armour looks a little lighter than the pick though

[plain raft]

The man's got a 3a pickaxe, what a flex with the radiant set

[quiet flicker]

Insane

[balmy raft]

what sensory clouding method is best for only 2 synapse

[plush shadow]

kirby meathod or any meathod with scobo/purging staff

think cloudfly is a new one for magic/scobo

[forest lagoon]

Jfc that was the hardest thing ive ever done in this game lmfao

but we did it

ended up doing joack, it took like 50+ contracts of learning but it randomly clicked when I had 5 left. My pb by that point was like 600hp, then 100 then 0

[radiant sky]

w325, i call out lf dono horn or elder and i bring both in my invent, for glyphs personally i prefer tank taking them and dps afking but its gonna depend on ur duo and everyone likes to do it differently

id imagine the us world works too

[sudden ocean]

might be time to move the new role down already xd

[tired ivy]

[radiant sky]

i really like the colour of radiant but with new cheese methods and easy contract farming its prob gonna be significantly more common than gm

[sudden ocean]

i also do generally like the idea of more "out of the way" roles being higher up even if they're not necessarily more difficult

[carmine cove]

tomb raider on top

[tired ivy]

Radiant is still new but will move eventually...

But the blorva role definitely is too high as a random gm task

[plush shadow]

theres a fc as well that i like

[faint lily]

For forfeit breath no ring of endurance, do you still bring staminas? Or just only restores and vile vigour?

[vast quarry]

i just brought stams

[atomic surge]

i brought 1 stam, 9 restores vile

[faint lily]

ill mess around with both on the main

trying to go 2/5 on the iron this weekend. I think I have to try sensory clouding for my 3/5, because im delaying duke until those changes go live, and dont wanna push it with my 27% mage dmg

[plush shadow]

i liked endurance ring personally with stam/vile vigour every tech to help me out

not needed though

[faint lily]

I can prob bring explorers ring too

I never got a seers ring so can just equip it

[remote horizon]

I brought 9 stams

9 stams 4 restores+sanfew and rest anglers

[misty marlin]

it actually really surprises me that so many people have blorva and not gm

[tired ivy]

Well gm was cleared a couple days ago

[misty marlin]

true

[quiet flicker]

I mean

Gm is such a time commitment

For so little benefit

And even less now that theyre removing 2 min thralls xd

[misty marlin]

I mean most of the stuff post raids is a long time commitment for little benefit

[atomic surge]

blorva is very self contained

don't need a ton of kcs or a ton of content

you can just do it

[tired ivy]

https://i.imgur.com/yxhPH0y.png

Can make a piece now lol

[faint lily]

I'm sorry

[quiet flicker]

lmao the chat

you still wanna grind worms

[faint lily]

Lol it's my brother, so I'll still send Yama with him. He's 2/3 still.

Basically gonna use our duos to practice contract timings like divine severance/sensory clouding step backs.

[ember jasper]

I'm convinced they nerfed drop rates again and didn't tell anyone. Was gone for a week and have done ~300 solos and 200 duos since and seen 1 unique drop (horn)

[tired ivy]

I've seen a fair few drops in duos, just bad rng never in my name

2 solo horns, seen ~6-7 duo drops lol

[ember jasper]

I'm thankful for the oathplate shard making dry protection thing but still sucks ass not rolling a piece

[tired ivy]

well surely i get a drop before 900

[quiet flicker]

Someone i know hasnt seen anything in 800 duos

In anyones name

[quiet flicker]

Nvm

He just got horn

[hearty tiger]

So I have been trying to learn monofly, however there are times where I spawn in 1 tick later than my duo heading into P3. I got told it could be cuz i ate food or did something before but it's still happening sometimes

And if I spawn in the 1 tick too late then I know its just fucked

[quiet flicker]

It happens when u dont judge kill at the same time, or too far south, or hop back on rocks

Atleast thats what they thought when i was still doing yama, no idea if theres nee revelations by now

[hearty tiger]

I know the rock thing so i didnt doo that, but i have no clue about the judge kill or too far south

[quiet flicker]

Avoid south and if u miss a tick on juudge be prepared

If ur partner notices it, he can lose a tick aswell so u dont lose 4 ticks on p3 start

But ye

[hearty tiger]

So if I'm not getting hitsplats at the same time as duo, then we should try and sync back up so we spawn in at same time otherwise theres a chance we dont?

[quiet flicker]

Yep

Basically

[hearty tiger]

Damn ok ty

[ember jasper]

I never bother syncing with my duo, if one of us miss ticks the late spawner just misses the first attack and runs to 2 and syncs up there

[quiet flicker]

But its not a big deal

One of u can just take the l and go for snap start

[ember jasper]

much easier

[quiet flicker]

Ye

Depends how much effort u wanna put in

[hearty tiger]

wym snap start

[tired ivy]

Afk on "1" and wait for him to snap and click him

[hearty tiger]

ohhhh

is that any snap?

or just the 1st one

[atomic surge]

they did

when they buffed dossiers

oath shards are rarer now

[quiet flicker]

it only works with the fire balls snaps iirc

anything elsee will fuck up thee cycle

but unsure

which is the first attack so

[hearty tiger]

ahh ok, ty for the help

[tired ivy]

Yama is shitting out the easiest ones https://i.imgur.com/W4m4p5c.png

[atomic surge]

This is more than I used for everything besides sensory tbh

I will say it';s much faster to afk sensory than it is to get orbs

[tired ivy]

ye should be fine with main practice

and gonna do a lot more of the boss anyways

[plush shadow]

depends if ur using mono or donofly tiles u reach him same time though

but depending where u stand u reach him sooner

i think with donofly tiles u wait a tick after he snaps monofly u do it instantly

[atomic surge]

with sensory I knew that I could get it on a good run

so I stopped playing the main

but it took 40 tries to get a good run

but like I knew I could get it so I didn't want to send more main attempts

if you know what I mean

[forest lagoon]

with jo-ack once you get it, you got it every time

[atomic surge]

I was doing kirby/freestyle scobow shadow rather than the movement stuff yeah

[forest lagoon]

since its just on the rails

[tired ivy]

Yeah joeack or whatever that other mage kiting one it should be pretty consistent once you get it down

[forest lagoon]

jraze's week one method isnt awful either, its bascialy mage kiting but pull yama to the side before waves

dodge waves with yama snared on the side

[atomic surge]

in that sense it's the exact same as kirby

[forest lagoon]

yeah but its way less snaring and more kiting

[sudden ocean]

i dont like this boss

[forest lagoon]

You know, I noticed that void flare explosions arent lethal in p3

idk if thats intended or not

[atomic surge]

I took a 98

[forest lagoon]

Ive hit them without dark mark up and only tanked like a 38 or so

[quiet flicker]

thats weird

i thought they were lethal no matter what but i guess that makes sensee

[forest lagoon]

tbf it does heal him like +500hp so its basically ogre at that point

[faint lily]

Lol teleport scrolls cost the same as the easier contracts

Guess I am gonna start fairy ringing. +1 inventory space too

[umbral cradle]

pet contract time?

if you just dont mess up, only 8 hours expected to finish greenlog

[faint lily]

I've got 2 of them I think lol. Do those repeat now?

[umbral cradle]

yes but you only get it back if you're successful

1/100 pet, kill time is like 3:30, <5minutes total including banking each

u probably want to practice and find a gamer duo partner who's not gunna mess up

[faint lily]

Hmm interesting. Will definitely keep in mind if I become a clogger/pet hunter.

[devout coyote]

sold my stack of them for like 25m

kinda surprised theyre so expensive, theyre only useful if your partner is also using them

[faint lily]

I was using them like candy for contracts but the time over fairy ring is not worth 100k.

Also make you -1 inv slot

[sudden ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/975789005981515909/1381090273387352084/image.png?ex=6846400c&is=6844ee8c&hm=12b8e767becf67c4807ed3da4514be06b4b4673f949783d9904a30814f01386e&

2/5

[faint lily]

Not even close 😎

[nocturne basin]

whats meta for farming specific contract, how do you make the sigil above demons head to change?

[atomic surge]

you just afk on the right style for the contract yo want

[nocturne basin]

but what if it isnt the correct one

[atomic surge]

dont care

[nocturne basin]

you can still get it?

[atomic surge]

yes

[nocturne basin]

greaters or black demon?

[atomic surge]

greaters, northeast corner 3 spot

[nocturne basin]

perfect thank you, you're a legend

[sudden ocean]

is there a plugin to make clicking void flares always take priority over clicking yama?

or maybe it just already does that idk, i'm just careful to make sure i click flares

[nocturne basin]

custom menu swaps

[split pagoda]

make sure to put wildcards around void flare

[sudden ocean]

wym

tried this out in a normal mode, this good enough?

[old phoenix]

Put a * before void flare aswell

Atleast that is what I have

[winter seal]

that swap is fine

[old phoenix]

Make sure void flare is fully spawned tho (clickable) otherwise you're still attacking yama, might waste spec if using purging spec

[sudden ocean]

yea have definitely noticed this, i like to do at least one more hit on yama before clicking the flares

my last bloodied blows attempt

[old phoenix]

Yeah that's better

[old phoenix]

Almost there

[sudden ocean]

3/5 where drop tho

[remote horizon]

https://i.imgur.com/9FwKYuF.png 🤝

[tired ivy]

I did quite a few solos but yeah that's also a bit shit

[remote horizon]

yeah have a mix aswell

[atomic surge]

I don't think lockbox shards count, so it should be 160 shards on log per armor drop

so you're both getting fucked

[tired ivy]

The lockbox ones are on the log

Got a 3rd horn now, 515 shards no armour

[remote horizon]

don't think I'm more than like 2.5x dry, maybe like 20 % solos?

and I like the boss so it's gone by much quicker than I thought it would

[timber summit]

any duos

[sudden ocean]

can do in like an hour

i can try out the horn!

[timber summit]

huge!

[bleak moat]

You're gonna have a bad time whacking Yama with it!

[fossil mountain]

horn is huge for yama

so much more chill then praying for specs

[fossil mountain]

arent you supposed to be teaching me colo?

[bleak moat]

You haven't submitted your Roncord ticket. I thought I told you this!

[timber summit]

@sudden ocean any duo

[sudden ocean]

sure!

i am finally home

[faint lily]

2/5

Legit had a perfect kill the entire kill. not a single mistake. Felt good, might try bloodied blows next

Is there any way I can calc my max hit with my setup and a given hp?

Curious how low I would have to camp with 27% magic dmg to 1 shot orbs on p3. Or if that is even feasible at all

[winter seal]

I've seen 35% being 12hp, and another being 11hp for 33%

[faint lily]

Damn I'm not getting 33% anytime soon.

Might have to send sensory while I wait for duke changes/delve

Was kinda hoping I could let that one drop in price before I send a bunch

[winter seal]

great news is that sensory is like 540 rn

[faint lily]

Oh wow thats dropped 300k today

did a new method release or something

[atomic surge]

nah

[winter seal]

nah, think it's just the price settling more cuz they're rly easy to farm tbh

[atomic surge]

not even farm

yama just shits em out

dossier is a troll drop

they'll be worthless pretty soon

[faint lily]

Alright guess I'm sending sensory as my 3/5

Any way I can practice with regular yama first? Maybe doing melee stepbacks? to get that timing down?

[sudden ocean]

4/5

[radiant sky]

what guides should i follow for contracts if i dont want to do cheese methods like zcb glyphic or chicken yama

is kirby still the best for them?

oh kirby doesnt even have guides for all of them

[faint lily]

I think cheese glyphic is here to stay tbh

but fair play for not wanting to do it

[sudden ocean]

kirby's bloodied blows guide covers the basic p3 method that should work for all but sensory

it's very nice

[faint lily]

Yeah I got used to that and it helps a lot

[sudden ocean]

and i think most other stuff is relevant too, like not having to kill purple void flares p1/p2 if you time the purple glyph right

[faint lily]

Theres Joack, cloudfly and kirby scobo for sensory clouding.

p3 wise

joack seems kinda wack now that cloudfly is out

im gonna try to learn kirby basics first as a backup for when i inevitably screw up cloudfly the first tries

[sudden ocean]

i might try the damen "mage only run around like a chicken" method

1 synapse

[faint lily]

Kirby has a mini forfeit guide in his CA vid. But that one is basically bring stams/ring of endurance or a bunch of restores + vile vigour.

[radiant sky]

ye forfeit is the one i did for gm since ppl said that was easiest

used his vid for that one

[sudden ocean]

is it just me or does forfeit add difficulty to the specials? like im pretty sure double shadow waves p1 isn't normal

[faint lily]

It does

glyphic too

[sudden ocean]

[faint lily]

more creeping fires too

im watching vids on sensory and others now and im like the specials seem easier p1/p2 what the heck

[sudden ocean]

i would say glyphic ruby bolts and forfeit are pretty close in difficulty

glyphic takes a while but forfeit gives you more to keep track of

[faint lily]

I'd say glyphic is a lot more forgiving mistake wise doing cheese method

[radiant sky]

is glyphic just same as forfeit except no stam issues and i just 3t for p3 instead of mage

[sudden ocean]

yeah probably

every time i made a mistake in forfeit i would combo eat angler-stam-bwan lol

[sudden ocean]

i would recommend ruby bolt method

[faint lily]

main difference for me of gylphic vs forfeit is you can bring like 12 brews instead of 12 hardfood

Im glad I decided to learn that one first

[sudden ocean]

yeah it's probably the best one for learning

take it nice and slow

not much else to worry about

[faint lily]

took me more contracts than id like to admit, but was weird getting used to the special timings after 500 regular yama muscle memory

[sudden ocean]

the tight glyph timing is a bit of a pain but you kinda have to know that if you want to skip purple flares anyway

[faint lily]

I was pissed at that with sotd

i didnt want to do WGS so i tried without purging

world lag got me killed 5 times so i gave up and did the quests

~15 on the main, but 1nd on the iron so it's alright

[winter seal]

Idk jojack is a lot less stuff per cycle and somewhat more recoverable vs cloud fly

[radiant sky]

oh also for the kirby bloodied blows video, didnt they change something with how much dmg he does or what hp u need to sit on

i feel like they changed something more than just not splashing on adds

[faint lily]

They did

he does less dmg to you and no splashing

I think maxes 6s now?

[winter seal]

He hits up to a 6 now I believe

[radiant sky]

okay but i still camp same hp as he does in his video?

[faint lily]

Full disclosure I havent tried out any method yet, just vibes on vids lol.

[faint lily]

I believe so if you have the magic dmg%

[radiant sky]

ye i got max mage

[faint lily]

yeah you should be good to keep same hp

but the leeway is nice so you dont have to worry about guthix rest timing as much

or whatver healing item he used

hmm, would you take sweets now for bloodied?

[radiant sky]

eat delay would prob be way too aids

and itll just spam heal u 1

[faint lily]

True

[radiant sky]

surely running out of food isnt a real issue tho

id imagine you either die or kill the boss

if ur gonna be alive long enough to run out of supplies ud have to be afking 3 min p3 before u start fighting back

[balmy raft]

radiant done
accidentally freestyled sensory in the end https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYYxDO0IaYU
contract counts:
forfeit: 2 or 3 idr
Divine: ~10
glyphic: ~5
blodied: 28
sensory: ~40

[atomic surge]

I was out of food when i finished sensory

[radiant sky]

we were talking about bloodied

[hearty tiger]

In monofly duo should my partner and i be splitting on 4?

because thats what i saw and copied the tile markers however hes getting hit by shadows for some reason 1 time

[split pagoda]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee_zOs0Z528

You can do this or the fix for donofly would work too, whichever you prefer

[umbral cradle]

have any other ironmen received the yama pet from a pet contract yet?

i looked through the petcord drop posts and none of the posts of people getting it from familiar acquisition have been irons

[wide crypt]

anybody got the jelly IDs?

[sage fjord]

Void Flare#Shadow 14179
Void Flare#Fire 14179
according to wiki

[wide crypt]

ty! forgot about the wiki lol

[forest lagoon]

Identificator plugin works for everything if you can't find an ID for whatever reason

[winter seal]

do people radius marker everything these days

[timber summit]

anyone wanna do the pizza ca real quick

cba solo

[faint lily]

Can just send an easier radiant contract

[sudden ocean]

The one where the only supplies you can use are pizzas

I'm at work or else I would

[timber summit]

nvm i soloed it

was not as annoying as expected

still need to do the contract choreographer + speed ones at some point

[radiant sky]

how op is prayer bonus for glyphic attenuation

is the prayer gear better than inq

the sunfire fanatic gear

and is bonecrusher neck better than rancour for example

im thinking too high prayer bonus might be annoying as well if my prayer drains like crazy during enrage

eh whatever ill just try it i guess it should be fine even with bad dps

[forest lagoon]

giga op

like 2x your damage op

vs normal max

Also fwiw its easiest to just put on max prayer gear and ruby bolt the whole kill until its in vw range or w/e

[atomic surge]

Very but it seems to have a big breakpoint at 50

[sudden ocean]

The bonus applies to your ruby procs which is hilarious

Hits around 200

[radiant sky]

hmm i dunno if i can reach 50 without the boots and gloves

but sounds like prayer gear is the right move then

[faint lily]

I did it with 45 prayer bonus was and still proccing 170s

[radiant sky]

eh i think the contract seems somewhat fun and its the only one they decided to make melee so i dont want to ruin it for myself

okay worth it, was actually a really fun contract

[uneven breach]

Better NPC Highlight got enough updates that it took most of radius marker's utility. Now radius marker's only advantage is radius stuff like attack range/detotation radius

[radiant sky]

the offset waves kinda threw me off, felt like my tiles didnt rly work for dodging them or the timing was 1t later than with regular waves

but could have just been me being delusional cuz i fucked them up in the heat of the moment

[sudden ocean]

gotta either preemptively line up or do an L dodge with slightly different timing

i learned the L dodge way but the line up way is probably simpler idk

[radiant sky]

i tried to preemptively line up and dodge when the wave was at my south green tiles like i normally do with a regular wave

[sudden ocean]

easier to my brain to just have one starting tile that you always go home to, i think

[radiant sky]

felt like it only worked when it was lined up with the middle green tile but ye as i said it could have just been me messing up the timing in the heat of the moment

normally dodging works fine when its lined up with both south green tiles by just clicking boss

is shadow a lot better for these contracts or can i just camp purging staff

for divine severance for example that im about to try

guy in video is using shadow but im just gonna assume surging is fine

prob not a dps race anyway and would reduce risk of fucking up void flares

or wait this was prob when they were immune to demonbane weapons

[faint lily]

Yeah I think shadow is still slightly better DPS, but a lot of people just opt to camp purging

[sudden ocean]

camping purging for p3 is goated

though for forfeit breath i got such bad hits i said fuck it and accursed specced again lol

[umbral cradle]

u need to change some user setting on wiki to get npc ids on wiki pages

[umbral cradle]

people have been using radius markers lately in place of better npc highlight because better hpc hightlight has been bugged and the plugin owner hasn't been fixing it

are u aware if the bugs were fixed recently that causes better npc highlight to stop working?

[misty marlin]

turning the plugin on and off once every game update fixes it for me

[uneven breach]

^ that’s all I had to do

[radiant sky]

eh so im at bloodied blows now, is the only solution actually to make a bunch of guthix rest?

and moth mixes i guess since im pretty much out of those

[faint lily]

Yeah those two + dwarven rock cake in inventory are mostly what I am seeing

[radiant sky]

maybe this will have to be a problem for future me...

whats the fastest meat to hunt for moth mixes

[balmy raft]

dont worry most deaths u won't even drink a sip

in 28 bloodied blows i prob drank like 12 sips of moth and 4 guthix rest

[sudden ocean]

I didn't even bother with rests

Moth mixes were fine

Had a ton of meat from doing rumors

[radiant sky]

looks like i had some kyatt and pyre fox meat so i guess im fine actually

the problem with the meat is that a lot of the stuff you get from rumours is actually solid food that i wouldnt want to waste

like dashing kebbits and moonlight antelopes

[hearty tiger]

That’s what we’re running and he’s still getting hit so that’s why I’m confused haha. We’re both in sync as well and he copied the tiles from the video that pulled from

[split pagoda]

Dunno prolly need a clip to know for sure

[sudden ocean]

I think it's all valued the same as far as making mixes, so just use the shittiest kind you have

[atomic surge]

Kebbit I think?

Or maybe moonlight antelope for fast banking

Probably kebbit

[devout coyote]

i just used rests I had already

not gonna bother catching butterflies or whatever

wasnt necessary

[molten kelp]

time for me to finally learn this boss now that my synapse dry streak broke. anyone got a good starter guide

[radiant sky]

i dont know any guide that teaches the basics of yama but id make sure whatever you pick has you meleeing p1 + p2 and some mage gear for p3

you always want to try to get into whatever donofly you pick at start of p3 and then swap to maging if you fail

or if you're with another learner you can both swap to whats known as north/south melee where you just melee boss and kill the adds he spawns

[wide crypt]

Me and my duo just do the n/s method rn. Is it good to practice donofly this way then just swap to n/s if we mess up?

[radiant sky]

yes regardless of what p3 method you use you should always attempt donofly for an attack or 2

just dont stubbornly try to stay in donofly after he melees you cuz ur just gonna keep getting meleed and die

and enter p3 on high hp

[uneven breach]

I’d never tell someone to n/s unless they don’t have 2 synapse or 1 synapse and shadow. Bail and mage if so.

The goal you want to work towards is both melee for dps and rune cost reasons. Bailing out of donofly to n/s loses a lot of practice time if the other person messages up.

[radiant sky]

ye i think mage p3 is better as a bail out option than n/s but i know there are a lot of ppl who still like it so its an option

[molten kelp]

is there any good way to practice donofly outside of the actual fight

like by dropping items or something

[umbral cradle]

yea u could drop items on each tile, and also where u drag into attack

[molten kelp]

hmm yeah dropping stuff on the attack tiles should work

[umbral cradle]

one of them you sit for an extra tick tho waiting for attack

like "3" i think

so you would pick up the item

lol

[sudden ocean]

no sim yet? is the osrs community even trying?

[molten kelp]

lol

[split pagoda]

did both of us spawn "late" or did my partner spawn in first and lose a tick?

these are b2b frames in the vid, kinda hard to tell but i thought we were synced up so i didnt realize i was supposed to skip the hit there

[umbral cradle]

we can't tell if your partner wasn't attempting to move on the 1st tick

either way, you guys lost ticks in the judge so something funny happening isn't that much of a surprise

altho that is kinda weird i do admit

it does look like both got delayed

[split pagoda]

[umbral cradle]

i would recommend nofly tho

wouldn't solve the issue of getting insta meleed in this confusing situation

but it would remove the concerns over losing your set cycle

[split pagoda]

ya i'll figure that out sometime

[umbral cradle]

basically you just need:

1. intuition of boss's 7t attack speed to be able to generally go in-and-out without getting meleed
2. being able to go in either on-tick or 1t after in order to bait hourglass adjacent to boss
3. know 2 patterns, horizontal and vertical

and ur set

can throw in early wave skip tile for additional tick save if u wanna get spicy

https://tenor.com/view/christian-bale-american-psycho-walk-jam-gif-16732505

me walking up to the boss to do nofly

https://tenor.com/view/soobin-standing-txt-awkward-staring-gif-20496205

donofly guy going up to boss, nervous about losing his set cycle^

[elder sky]

Can you even insta start nofly even in that situation where it’s ambiguous where yamas cycle is

I got in the habit of having 7 tick metronome setup anyways so I can adjust

Too cooked to recognise yamas 7t cycle without it

[quiet flicker]

was pretty easy for me cause i did alot of tob

i kinda like that its 7 ngl

[split pagoda]

I'm pretty alright at knowing when to step under verzik but yama hasn't fully clicked yet

[quiet flicker]

i guess it can be confusing cause of the animations of diff shit

[umbral cradle]

if u know ur not losing ticks in judge u can just insta start, just make sure to not get meleed

[digital jetty]

If you watch Yama he will like lock onto whoever he chooses to target during p3 and you can use that to know if you can attack or not

He like twitches

[elder sky]

Is it rly that simple swear I haven’t lost ticks and still been offset

[digital jetty]

I’m not 100% sure it’s always consistent but seems to be in my experience

^in reply to my comment btw

[elder sky]

Can believe if you mirror your partner exactly there’s no reason to be offset

[umbral cradle]

i think its possible for your partner to cause you to be delayed if they lose a bunch of ticks in a weird way

but that's more of an exception

either way, if u get delayed u should be able to visually see it

https://streamable.com/colb7a

look at how comfy this is

brain off

[elder sky]

Ye I believe nofly is brainoff if u learn it

I was learning for a few hours then gave up

[umbral cradle]

maybe i could help, was there a part u didnt know why u were failing etc.?

[quiet flicker]

i wish it was fully out when i was still sending yama

i learnt it for glyphic

and it was so much more fun than whateever the fuck fly

[elder sky]

Dealing with 1t delay entry was annoying me

For just practicing

[umbral cradle]

i wouldnt worry about the entry too much, can just stand in front of the boss and attack when you think it's right to go in

it works to be 1t after boss, so you can insta react to the animation too

but if u just go off of intuition, erring on the side of caution, you'll either be on-tick or 1t after, and ull be golden

[elder sky]

the vertical one was annoying me

the one where u have to step back to dodge

The other way is easy

[umbral cradle]

i think you mean horizontal one

[elder sky]

But ye just need to practice more

[umbral cradle]

the vertical one is north-south

[elder sky]

Is vert/horizontal in reference to hourglass

[umbral cradle]

yea the first hourglass that spawns

[elder sky]

Not where u have to step

I actually struggled with ‘baiting the hourglass’ but you always want to place it right in front of yama right

And as long as you go in after he casts for it will never mess up right

[atomic surge]

Yeah I wanna learn it

[umbral cradle]

Both patterns that I recommend using start with the same two actions:

1. click to step right when hourglass appears
2. click attack on boss

Then from here they diverge. All descriptions are from the POV of looking south.

Vertical (think of this as a repeating 3t cycle):

1. click right (same in both, when you see the hourglass spawn in air)
2. click to attack (same in both)
3. wait
4. click to next tile
5. click to attack
6. wait
7. click to next tile
8. click to attack
9. wait

(This is the end of the cycle, from this point click to run 2 ticks, ending away from boss, and insta attack in to maintain 3t attack speed if you want to, potentially using early wave skip tile if you're spicy. You're basically just returning to intuition mode at this point)

Horizontal:

1. click right (same in both, when you see the hourglass spawn in air)
2. click to attack (same in both)
3. click back (1 ne diagonal)
4. wait
5. click to attack
6. click to move back
7. click to move up right (1 sw diagonal)
8. click to attack

(This is the end of the cycle, return to intuition mode)

@elder sky here's an example of both vertical + horizontal https://streamable.com/4blkd6

[elder sky]

Nice I’ll take a look

I wanna get to the point where u just freestyle nofly

Got bored of dono so I was just clicking random tiles that work to path when it was safe to

[umbral cradle]

if u want to be doing some weird custom patterns all the time, then kirby has some explanations about fundamentals in his super complex youtube vid

where he talks about certain ticks that you should never be attacking on relative to hourglass spawn #1,#2,#3

i just recommend starting with these two patterns, they are basically goated

then add in early wave skip spice, then maybe consider adding additional patterns to your toolbelt if ur a god king emperor

[umbral cradle]

this thing i wrote above for dkho might help #1368632190723821729 message

[atomic surge]

Thanks

[umbral cradle]

i also have this explanation video I put on youtube, but be warned that:

1. the horizontal pattern I'm showing in the video is a crappy one - I added an amendment in the description with an unlisted video
2. I left out a pretty big reason in the "why" section for doing nofly - simply not being in a set cycle, being able to deal with jellies if you make a mistake

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CZjKw_e04Q

but i think it's still useful for seeing the approach I took to learn it, intuiting boss 7t attack speed, seeing side-by-side comparison of 1t early, on-tick, 1t late, 2t late

[radiant sky]

this seems to happen to me a lot when i ffa with bad players but absolutely never when i'm with good players

atm my solution is just to nofly and let them flounder

but ye its not great for kph if ur teammate is fucked and takes 200 dmg during a p3

ive just been assuming we both spawn late but ye maybe they deserve to get fucked p3 cuz they're afking a tick instead

[umbral cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-chris-evans-marvel-avenger-handsome-gif-16537748

its too true

@radiant sky

you can probably guess the context here

https://tenor.com/view/chris-evans-laugh-gif-15277206

my friend was having a weak moment in setting up his donofly

[faint lily]

I was gonna learn nofly but then I finished boss and started working on radiant instead

Maybe if they revoke my cheese method glyphic they'll force me to

[split pagoda]

I haven't really looked into it cuz I didn't wanna run solos or grief duos until I got it right

[radiant sky]

i just did a couple of solos until i got it to a state where i didnt lose a ton of ticks or 100 hp and then did duos

it doesnt rly have to be perfect to work fine in a duo or be about as good as dono

just have to kill any adds you spawn and keep trying until it gets good

[remote horizon]

https://i.imgur.com/wcknoU0.png
Who's coming to my pizza pie party

[radiant sky]

is kirby considered the best sensory clouding method or do i copy one of the fly methods with a bunch of tiles everywhere

[umbral cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/kanye-west-gif-1846075065280866456

me when i hit 2x ultra god cycles with close spawn and early wave skip

2 full emberlight hits over donofly partner

[split pagoda]

are solos ok without purging?

thought it was kinda stinky with only kodai

[radiant sky]

eh ye id assume they suck

tbf ur only dealing with 2 flares if you dont fuck anything up

2 half hp flares

but ye if the solos are for learning 3t then it doesnt work at all

[misty marlin]

I think Kirby method is sufficient for most people, but I hear people swearing by the joe tiles or the cloudfly tiles as being harder to learn but more likely to get you a clear if you just stick to them

[split pagoda]

sucks to be a 1 synapse sydney

[sudden ocean]

doable but kind of cancer

i wouldn't grind them

purging is huge qol

[faint lily]

Id like to thank jagex for making this an emberlight boss so that we have a bunch of good methods to choose from for 4 tick weapons and all the gamers aren't focusing on making stuff for scythes.

[radiant sky]

kirby tech worked i just needed to bash my head against it for a while

[quiet flicker]

gz bigman

[radiant sky]

tyty

[bleak moat]

When I first saw the cloudfly tech, I thought it was jank crackhead shit. I am a believer in it after doing it.

[quiet flicker]

Wait

Do u get normal loot on pet tract?

[median bobcat]

Has anyone got divine severence contract with a cannon recently? I could have sworn I used to (and I see some messages above in this channel that other people used to) but now super dry on contracts and only getting 1 ash on kills with cannon instead of 2.

[faint lily]

Would you recommend just full sending it? Im feeling like im running around without a plan trying to learn kirby scobo method

[bleak moat]

It's a little harder than gwd kiting methods because there's so many tiles, but it works. It felt like I was banging my head against a wall trying the Kirby method

[devout coyote]

chicken is giga bait and kirbys vid is just wingin it

i think cloudfly or joak are 100% the way to go

[faint lily]

alright I've been convinced by two nice white names. Full sending cloudfly

[bleak moat]

Just practice the pathing a little before sending the contracts to get a feel for it

Because there's some weird tiles you have to path to like 5.1, 3.1, etc

[faint lily]

gotcha, I know there some funky pathing around 8 also for dodging waves that isnt marked

Would you recommend bringing rests or the moth things to heal while staying in cycle if needed?

Or generally just dead if you need to heal?

[bleak moat]

Yeah, I think you're supposed to go from 7 to 7.1 to 8, but he does some corner dodge on 8 instead

And the moths are nice because he does more chip damage than normal

[median bobcat]

for anyone wondering I figured it out - seems like just the ashes are bugged but cannon still counts as heavy for ranged

[bleak moat]

He can hit like 8 or 9s through correct prayers on enrage

[faint lily]

Oh, did you go for 7.1 or do the 8 corner thing?

[bleak moat]

I did the corner dodge he did in the video because I just practiced mimicking his movements

[faint lily]

gotcha thats what im gonna do. doesnt look that bad when you are in cycle. just gonna have to practice staying in cycle

I saw a weird vid with a bug that if you scobo spec instantly on regular p3 yama. He will chase you forever until you are meleed

Maybe I can try that and save some gp on practice

[lusty pike]

thanks for confirming. was actually gonna afk some today without cannon cause i assumed cannon wouldn't count as heavy range weap

[faint lily]

Doing sensory clouding. If I don't have sgs, should I just bring 1 way emberlight as a melee weapon for Judge? I feel like I am taking more damage from judge from just taking longer punching it as my melee hit.

If so, would it be worth to send some specs p1/p2 for some reduced damage? Not sure if it would reduce autos or if it just reduces melees.

[radiant sky]

would highly recommend 2 brews if no sgs and 1 brew if sgs btw

to heal to full at judge

i know videos i saw had full hard food but didnt seem good

i cant say i know how much faster judge dies with ember tho

id imagine its only 1-2 autos quicker so prob not worth it?

[atomic surge]

this was after a looot of experimentation

only thing I would maybe change would be to add a few moths

punch is totally fine

(max mage lb)

[radiant sky]

i had pretty much same invent as wizzy except 1 more bwan, mantas instead of anglers (except 2) and sgs instead of 1 brew

ah and i dont have the rev mage wep

[atomic surge]

heart a minute before start and reheart after 2nd judge

i preferred brew because i think it's a bit more than 2sgs?

[faint lily]

My thought process is if it makes autos do less damage during p3 it might be worth it to bring

[atomic surge]

what does

no

[faint lily]

ember specs

[atomic surge]

odds of you recovering after taking a melee is minimal on 1kc imo

[faint lily]

just melees?

[atomic surge]

and the damage from it will be the least of your concerns

[faint lily]

so it only reduces melees not auto chip?

[atomic surge]

it only effects melees

[faint lily]

gotcha

yeah then 1 angler is pretty much more value

[radiant sky]

does ember actually hit

is it 100% accuracy in all the contracts or something?

[faint lily]

id guess like 50 accuracy in max mage maybe

but i dont have accursed or sgs so i thought it could help

[atomic surge]

naked emberlight in max mage just to reduce melee damage by 15% would be very bad

[faint lily]

yeah no I agree, I just didnt know if it reduced autos as well as melees

[radiant sky]

i did get meleed a couple of times in p3 and maybe i could have recovered but i prob wouldnt bother with it personally

[faint lily]

im going for cloudfly so odds of recovering after a melee are gonna be basically zero

[radiant sky]

ah right

ye fuck the ember

[faint lily]

Is moonlight worth over rests?

Wiki doesn't say how much hp it heals only prayer

oh

its sunlight moths im stupid

I hear all the noobs talking about moonlights so I assumed it was those ones lol

GF out of town for 2 days. We ball on sensory tomorrow. Got P1/P2 down consistently with minimal/no mistakes. Time to perfect cloudfly.

[balmy raft]

the move for sensory clouding is brews + menaphite remedy

nice thing about using a spellbook spell is u dont really need to be potted

this is what i ran

[faint lily]

Okay I kinda like that for Kirby but I don't think supplies are really gonna be an issue doing cloudfly. Mistakes are just gonna mean death.

[balmy raft]

mistakes mean you freestyle

i was learning cloudly and got the kc on a kill i missed up the first rotation

previous kill was a 10% hp pb and I used most of my brews

[faint lily]

Hmm fair point

[balmy raft]

[faint lily]

Damn already

Waiting for the contract bots to pop up.

[quiet flicker]

What are they killing with?

Surely arclight is too much of a req to upkeep

[wraith summit]

magic

hence the 30m magic xp

[quiet flicker]

Yeah but like what

[umbral cradle]

but not purging staff?

[quiet flicker]

Is he viable to kill without purging lol?

Or are bot owners just dumping 70m+ into gear setups nowadays

Yeh nvm isnt even close to wgs reqs, crazy

[wraith summit]

I would guess just standard ol' dark demonbane

yeah looks like it just barely meets the reqs for kingdom divided

it's a bot so perfect execution is expected, and while kills will be slow they'll be stupidly good money for a bot farm

even at 5 kills/hr, it's roughly 3.5m profit

[uneven breach]

Guessing at an ahrims + sotd setup but 5 kph sounds right

[wraith summit]

watch it be something like mystics and a staff of fire

15 minute kills of agonizing pain

[uneven breach]

Big brain to save on fire runes

[opal zealot]

Abuse early and often

[elder sky]

L for waiters

[surreal rock]

rare L for waiters

[sudden ocean]

It's all about melee!

[azure laurel]

Kinda shitty to not fix it as soon as it was discovered

Nerfs should be ASAP, especially with new content

[remote horizon]

nah just let it sit for two weeks

[faint lily]

They definitely could have fixed that last week with the other Yama changes

We'll see if I have the motivation to go back and learn nofly and try it out with melee after 5/5

[plush shadow]

glad they fixed it

still think glyphic like entrymode sensory clouding

chicken meathod gone?

feel this is a huge blow to meleeing as well for sensory clouding though

[bleak moat]

That's more of a blow to the pet contract

[plush shadow]

ye ive heard ppl about chickening pet contract havint done it/seen it

[bleak moat]

Greg has an example on his channel

https://youtu.be/WHse1JnEadw

[sudden ocean]

Funny enough I feel almost confident enough with 3t melee now that I could maybe do glyphic melee

[undone sundial]

For those that are usually dumping 3 emberlight specs (no horn/maul), does that mean we should be trying DWH now at start with these changes? Or was this something different

[faint lily]

You would need horn to dwh

[digital jetty]

From what I read it’ll only prevent you from lowering Yama’s offensive stats

[faint lily]

If you were using emberlight as your main defensive reduction you can continue doing so

[digital jetty]

If you’re using ember light spec to reduce defense that works

[latent pike]

Currently bugged so it only removes 1 def level if you land with ember

[digital jetty]

Yea what Matt said 😄

[undone sundial]

Got it, and then I'll just use DWH if my partner has horn

[faint lily]

Oh it's bugged lol

[undone sundial]

Wait is that from this update or has it been doing that this whole time? lol

[latent pike]

Yeah noticed during a solo kill, landed 2 hits and i had like a 6:30 kill lol

Nah it worked pre update

[undone sundial]

Oh yikes, hopefully a hotfix then

[latent pike]

bgs/maul in glyphic still works tho

[faint lily]

Did you monster examine or something? Could just be RNG

[latent pike]

monster examine

it reduced all stats by 1

[undone sundial]

[latent pike]

so still had the guaranteed -1 reduction, just not % one

[atomic surge]

In duo easily

[sudden ocean]

QA tested etc

Days since last fuckup .jpg

[wraith summit]

Rip cheese method

[vast quarry]

time to revoke sigils from cheeseheads who bolted

[sudden ocean]

do it cowards i fucking dare you

I'll bash his head in

probably with a bludgeon

at least it wouldn't mean revoking gm because i did the other contracts fairly!

i might try it sometime just for fun tbh

[forest lagoon]

I think the posts complaining about the emberlight thing may be the worst reddit discourse in a while. I don't think any of the posters know what chicken tech is lol

You'd get the impression that they're disabling emberlight entirely

[sudden ocean]

well they kinda did

[faint lily]

They are all pissed about not being able to tank melees P3, lol

They could literally just mage p3 and get the same DPS

[slow vigil]

Which is honestly fair for normal yama

[sacred badge]

Meleeing is way easier though

[atomic surge]

Don't tell them that 5.5t ember light loses to purge

[slow vigil]

See this is why the strat is to melee with a mage duo and have them kill all the orbs

Just gotta find a sucker kind soul who is willing to tank their contribution

[sacred badge]

That sounds much worse lol

He spawns the same orbs for 1 meleer as 2 meleers right?

[slow vigil]

Yeah, as long as he can melee he will

[sacred badge]

So you're losing the same amount of time killing orbs but spend your free ticks attacking with lower dps

[faint lily]

These cloudfly tiles are gonna force me to learn nofly when my bro inevitably asks me to duo Yama. I deleted all my Dono tiles.

[slow vigil]

Yeah, the upside is it's way more chill, or at least it was if you could reduce yamas stats

Not the strat I'd use all the time but I get it

[sacred badge]

Oh since you're not swapping, yeah I guess

[slow vigil]

Also not having to dodge fireballs, it's totally understandable that it's a preference for casual yama

[forest lagoon]

Its an 8 hour pet, no?

And especially if you're an iron I feel like a consistent way to kill him has more value than it normally would have

[faint lily]

With all this reddit outrage it makes me think all the noobs camping melee P3 were the reason oath is dropping so fast.

[forest lagoon]

Also seems weird that the sentiment over the pet contract has shifted from "no guaranteed pet" to "make it as easy as possible please"

[ember jasper]

never minded the guaranteed pet part though I'm sure plenty of people don't like that

[atomic surge]

If you get a chump to 11t demon bane then you can 4t ember

Basically

[forest lagoon]

iirc the og pet contract was the same as oathplate acquisition and it was the only way to get the pet. That's kinda wild

[atomic surge]

It was also 100%

[forest lagoon]

Yeah, would have been the rarest pet for sure though

[ember jasper]

https://x.com/oldschoolrs/status/1932819664247075142?s=46&t=44sdm2gvyuIHQtQfcmFn3w

Old School RuneScape (@OldSchoolRS)

We've deployed a hotfix for a bug where Emberlight/Arclight Special Attacks were reducing Yama's Strength but not his Defence.

Also, Emberlight's Stat Reduction now reduces Yama's Attack/Strength to 200 outside of Contracts. These values can be further lowered by other weapons.

X · Jun 11, 2025, 3:18 PM

[balmy raft]

rip

woulda been nice if jagex didnt cave just 1 time

[radiant sky]

im pretty sure the original idea was for the contracts to only do what the text said and them becoming extremely difficult was a snap decision made when ppl were going around saying all the contracts looked extremely free in discord

[faint lily]

So 350 -> 200 reduction?

[slow vigil]

It'd be super funny if "other weapons" includes arclight because they forgot

[radiant sky]

so the pet contract would have been a pretty easy one

[faint lily]

What was his strength being reduced to previously?

[atomic surge]

75% chance

Imo

[umbral cradle]

have any other irons posted a yama pet drop from familiar acquisition yet? I'm curiuous to hear about their experience

[umbral cradle]

I got some feedback from some folks in valiance, apparently some guys in there have grinded it

[atomic surge]

Any luck

[vast quarry]

got an oathplate aquisition yesterday

instant drop over to the cash alt

[radiant sky]

i would prob keep it forever in case it gets nerfed unless u alrdy have the clogs

[faint lily]

I'm waiting to coffer mine. Got the clogs

How long does it take for them to let us coffer new items usually?

[forest lagoon]

Its a fairly new thing, but given that some contracts are still 'valued' at 10x their GE price, it may be a while

like glyphic is under 100k but valued at about 1m

[faint lily]

Sheesh. Oath shards and the teles are really far off too

And oathplate, the whole table lol

[balmy raft]

i dropped over my contracts after i finished oathplate, they're gonna be worth nothing by the time we can coffer them

[forest lagoon]

Idk why jagex is so conservative with pricing new items. They can change a max of like 5% every 4(?)hrs too

[runic obsidian]

they need to either start manually adjusting new items or change the 5% to like 100%

its dumb that you cant tell the actual price of new stuff without going to wiki

[forest lagoon]

They've manually edited item prices in the past like craws bow

[atomic surge]

They did that with contracts

Just not these ones specifically

[elder sky]

ok nofly is p epic

[umbral cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-christian-bale-oh-ooh-oops-gif-4770503

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[elder sky]

just realised it does shadow dancer ca for u free

[sudden ocean]

i thought it didn't work for that

don't they need to be tile perfect dodges

[radiant sky]

i did my shadow dancer with 3t

but 3t is tile perfect dodges

[sudden ocean]

[radiant sky]

or wdym

ur always 1 tile from the explosion

[sudden ocean]

i thought there was at least one L dodge in there but i could def be wrong

or does L dodge still count

[radiant sky]

do you mean when you spawn fire bombs away from the boss?

if you spawn them far away you might have to do L movements to get back to the perfect tile

[sudden ocean]

i don't know what i mean

i have brain damage

[radiant sky]

tbh i ended up making my own version and didnt pay full attention to kirbys video so maybe i missed something too

or do you mean ultra god

for that rotation you have to run far to avoid a melee but u get back in time for the explosion

[elder sky]

is there a clip of non host nofly

[umbral cradle]

i would have but i cleared out my obs folder basically just mirror the two patterns, except that vertical pattern will make you take a wave hit when waves are coming

https://youtu.be/I9nYVALA-Pg?feature=shared&t=885

this shows a decent solve for them

unfortunately i think that vertical pattern is suboptimal

but doing something better that accounts for waves i think it would be really annoying, not sure

[elder sky]

hmmmm

not ideal..

[umbral cradle]

still better than donofly though l0l

have you started incorporating the early wave skip?

it's really epic

[elder sky]

i dunno how to do it without early wave skip man

i just get hit by waves

if i dont

[umbral cradle]

you just attack in 1 tick later in the center

[elder sky]

if u mean the tile to the left

yea im learning all this stuff in a weird way

[umbral cradle]

might as well learn the optimal

[elder sky]

came in 2 weeks late so idk how to mage yama but can fly okay

[umbral cradle]

you can do early wave skip off of horizontal pattern

if u just kinda intuit it

it's epic

i do the early wave skip post-horizontal at the end of this clip

it's unnecessary, most people would probably just wait at the wave intersection and do a regular dodge, losing 1 tick

[faint lily]

At 0:20, are you attacking the tick before the diagnol shadow crash explodes? Moving back next to it for the speed up, and then attacking?

[umbral cradle]

yea i believe ur description is right

i don't think about what's happening really, I just execute a pattern

[faint lily]

Just trying to think about it all intuitively. Probably gonna be freestyling nofly in my duos

Or I guess I could force myself as host and learn the patterns

[umbral cradle]

i think the vertical pattern is easier than horizontal to think about intuitively if you conceptualize it as a repeating pattern of click to move -> click to attack -> wait

that's syncing up with the hourglass explosions, you click to move when it explodes if u look in the above clip

i dont think about it like that, but I can see how others might want to

[faint lily]

So does host always get vertical first?

[umbral cradle]

no, horizontal and vertical is random

[faint lily]

What's host/non host difference for shadow crashes?

[umbral cradle]

however one really interesting thing that I noticed, which may or may not be true, is that non-host and host never both get vertical simultaenously or horizontal simultaneously

[umbral cradle]

the diagonal for host is NW to SE, opposite for non-host

you can effectively just mirror all of the patterns

[faint lily]

Ahh okay.

So just go to opposite side of boss?

[umbral cradle]

except the vertical pattern, which has you go on the side of the boss, will cause non-host to take a wave hit during waves, since the wave intersection is not centered on the boss perfectly

so u can do what was linked above in kirby vid

[faint lily]

Gotcha

I think I'm gonna try for glyphic non cheese method after I go 5/5, so interested in learning nofly now

[quiet flicker]

wait does anyone know what happens when u have shit in a death bank and u get f2ped?

[sacred badge]

stays in death bank

dying in f2p still wipes it

no way to reclaim it without membership

[quiet flicker]

thanks

minor scare there

[radiant sky]

would highly recommend doing this tbh, its a fun contract in its own way with different challenges than the others

and its not so difficult that ud need to go grind out contracts for it as long as you practice 3t a little

[faint lily]

Yeah id still practice on main a bit, but ill learn 3t when my brother wants to duo.

contract is still like 80k even post patch

Just got into the cloudfly cycle after like 5 tries.

messed up the weird 8 stepback sadly

[compact vigil]

is bf nice for yama solos

i have a bunch of blood shards i dont have any real plan for

[balmy raft]

it would extend trip length but you can eat during the kill without losing ticks in the judge phase

[median bobcat]

Would probably avoid using blood shards, yamas defense is pretty high and strength bonus matters a lot for arc light so rancour is huge

Looks like 5-6% dps from fury to rancour so fairly significant

[elder sky]

bf doesnt proc on 0s iirc

is there anything special i need to know besides crush wep for glyphic if i can nofly

[atomic surge]

No

If alting (reccomended) just bring sgs and you are prayer /scb gated

[misty marlin]

SGS and rancour means you can get decently long trips if you play well

[compact vigil]

if i had an sgs i wouldnt be asking

[atomic surge]

Either way no tbh

[compact vigil]

aite

[atomic surge]

You could bring bf switch for judge

I guess

Would be a very efficient usage of it

Expected 20hpish heal per kc

[compact vigil]

ye might try that

i was thinking bf might be the dif of an extra kill per trip

but looking at ttk it probably isnt even a net gain

or at least not significantly

[faint lily]

Timing is more tight on using glyph to tank the special + a void flare

[elder sky]

can u just auto attack both jellys or do you have to spec

[faint lily]

You can auto them, but have to be on them very quickly

I was getting annoyed by it when trying with sotd, so just did WGS. Very comfy with purging spec

[uneven breach]

I like bringing just for judge. High value for guaranteed max hit

[median bobcat]

For those struggling with contracts (or honestly just p3 Yama in general) this tech was by far the most helpful thing for me for finishing radiant:

https://youtu.be/_SSWUi387So?si=QMRU0OX4-SOUDOEh

after updating those plugins p3 became 10x easier for me, not just for divine severance but helped a ton with bloodied blows, sensory clouding and would have finished the other way sooner had I done this earlier.

It’s pretty cheesy but amazing reminder while you are thinking of a ton of other things

[elder sky]

l00l

wtf

i aint downloading a google drive file tho ngl

whats the best crush wep for glyphic if i dont have mace

[radiant sky]

plugins have gone too far, time to ban runelite lmao

[median bobcat]

Yeah lol pretty cheesy

There’s a link to a discord in the comments on that video where you can get the wav files from

You could probably also just record yourself saying mage or range and save those as a wav use those instead lmao

[radiant sky]

time to make a recording that lasts just long enough for you to time turning your prayer on as it ends for divine severance

[faint lily]

1, 2, RANGE

[quiet flicker]

Apparently zombie axe hits 92s

No idea why or how

[misty marlin]

I used ursine chainmace, bludgeon is also decent

[plush shadow]

wouldint be suprised pray bonus dps is insane

[sudden ocean]

it actually felt super lenient

it's not tick perfect at all

i think as long as you could see the projectile you were fine to click prayer

maybe even sooner

[radiant sky]

its 2 ticks i believe

[sudden ocean]

What does bludgeon hit with glyphic

And is zombie axe 2h I'd look it up but busy

[radiant sky]

i got 8:20 glyphic kill with bludgeon

which is not too bad i think in terms of speed

pecans cudgel kill was 12 or 14 min i think?

[sudden ocean]

I could see zaxe with fally 4 beating bludgeon but

Idk the maths

[radiant sky]

ye wouldnt surprise me

it doesnt rly matter much which one you use tho

id just pick anything and go hit boss

[misty marlin]

boss had more hp and the prayer bonus damage boost was smaller though

[stiff dagger]

and i missed all mauls so it was giga doomed

id love to know the formulae for the prayer bonus damage buff

[faint lily]

Some people know something. I know the Kirby video mentioned breakpoints for big DPS increases at 40/50 prayer bonus

Idk if that's just anecdotal knowledge or insight into the formula

[stiff dagger]

Yeah they told us in a blog the scaling increased past a point, but not sure we know how it scales before or after

[misty marlin]

I took some data points from max hits that I saw, but pretty much the important thing that I found is that you hit 40 prayer bonus and after that maximize strength bonus/crush accuracy

But I didn't have a 50 prayer bonus setup so idk if that ends up being way better or not

Likely not because you do want some accuracy from gear

My guess is that this setup is absolute bis for glyphic

With ursine chainmace being the next best option for crush since it also has +2 prayer bonus

this is probably the bis iron-friendly setup if I had to guess, ursine chainmace is better if you have it, can then swap sunfire helm for faceguard

[faint lily]

Interesting

I wonder how ultor is vs suffering if no rotg

Assuming you dont hit 40 because of suffering

[ember jasper]

Is forfeit breath still consensus easiest? Looking at it to get the CA but also missing 2% to hit 36% mage bonus rn

[faint lily]

yes thats easiest

[ember jasper]

Thanks guess I’ll grind out duke for ring and pot that one

Should’ve been a ruby bolt abuser before change lol but was too preoccupied getting the armor

[faint lily]

you dont need 36% magic dmg for forfeit

[ember jasper]

Oh the voidflares for that don’t have more hp? Nice

surely 20 contracts is enough for a noob like me

[faint lily]

That's just divine severance and bloodied blows

Making progress on sensory. 2 full cycles down before I messed it up.

[misty marlin]

definitely the priority is hitting 40 prayer bonus > crush accuracy > melee strength

but melee strength after 40 is better

I'd assume this as the budget suffering setup

with 1 prayer bonus of wiggle room in case you don't have either elite diary done

or 2 prayer bonus of wiggle room if you don't have either but you do have aranea boots

[faint lily]

This is prob what id be working with

unless mitre for 42 prayer is better than faceguard 40

[misty marlin]

I didn't do extensive testing but I found that infernal cape was better than Ardy cape post 40

so I think after 40 it's just better to have melee str

[heady oracle]

Anyone know the bloodied blows scaling on the orbs? When I practiced on the main I could sit around 15hp but that doesn’t allow me to 1 shot on iron

[misty marlin]

if you're not using a blood fury go for unholy symbol + avernic instead

[faint lily]

could bloodfury was just grabbin stuff for pic

[misty marlin]

with mitre probably, accuracy is really important

would mitre and aranea boots get you to 40 with avernic

[faint lily]

No aranea boots

[misty marlin]

rip, not having avernic kinda blows

yama is super tanky

[faint lily]

-6 str for +18 accuracy

[misty marlin]

that's gotta be better I think

unholy symbol has +2 accuracy on it

idk how you get it but I remember it being kinda easy

[faint lily]

cerb i think ive left them all onthe ground

[misty marlin]

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Spirit_of_Scorpius

it'd take like 3 min, probably not worth it but give it a whirl

[faint lily]

I have the contract done btw, just testing for when I go back for it

I might get ardy cape 4 by the time I attempt who knows

[faint lily]

For those who did cloudfly. How long after linking two cycles did you get your KC?

I have 10 contracts on iron, so I feel like I wanna wait until I consistently link 3-4 to switch to it.

I'm at like 30 attempts so far

[balmy raft]

Like 8 contracts after linking 2 cycles i fucked up the first cycle and freestyles the rest of the fight and killed it

[sudden ocean]

getting good at nofly

[umbral cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-christian-bale-dancing-patrick-bateman-gif-16140074

[faint lily]

Why have my yama atack sounds dissapeared completely?

I'm actually an idiot. I thought gregs sound swapper plugin settings bricked my game. Also no wonder P3 was so difficult and I just got comboed by autos. I couldnt hear them.

Does installing sound swapper turn off your sound for some reason?

[atomic surge]

area sound muter does

area sound whitelist

[faint lily]

Hmm I didnt install that

Maybe sound swapper turns it off also though

[wide crypt]

anybody know whats better if youre doing the melee p3 tank method. horn and dwh or emberlight specs?

[faint lily]

Learn a fly method

[opal zealot]

If you're starting from scratch would nofly be best or some other method for p3

[wide crypt]

I do donofly depending on my duo. My irl doesn't know dono but eitherway that doesn't answer my question

[hidden lily]

horn or dwh, "Emberlight's special will no longer reduce Yama’s offensive stats"

[wide crypt]

fixed that i thought

[faint lily]

horn + emberlight then

offensive reduction is capped

[wide crypt]

ty

how many emberlight specs?

1 each?

[hidden lily]

right, if att/str capped at 200 you'd need 3 emberlights

[faint lily]

you want 3 for defense reduction anway too

so yeah basically use 100% spec at start of kill for both of you

one guy horn, both of you ember spec, horn again, your teammate ember specs

I assume you know how to skip flares

[wide crypt]

ok cool thanks

[faint lily]

way better to consistently hit all 3 vs. hit 1-4 sometimes

[radiant sky]

i would start with any of the donofly versions and also learn the solo method for whatever fly you choose

even if you know nofly i think you still want to know donofly so you might as well learn the easy one first

[opal zealot]

ty

[radiant sky]

actually to be clear, if you always have good duo partners and one of u is willing to learn player 2 nofly then you could potentially skip donofly

but if you're joining ffa worlds and stuff like me or ur wrist ever needs a break then donofly is great

[opal zealot]

chances are i'll be doing solos and rarely have a duo