Yama - May 14

[faint lily]

How good is nocurrencies gear for Yama? I assume no emberlight

[civic epoch]

can just ask him

he is in here

[sudden ocean]

when skipping both flares? im p sure ive run out of glyphs even doing a half skip

[civic epoch]

yeah skipping both ive only ran out if it was the 2nd special

if it was 3rd onwards the one i had to step on would always be up like 1-2t before the special hit

[sudden ocean]

im glad i have a purging now cause it's much more brain off

i don't feel like that's a feelswow i only have purging cause i dismantled emberlight

[civic epoch]

oh lmao

thought u got 2nd synapse

[faint lily]

@loud flame how's the Yama setup looking, king?

[wintry moth]

new milestone!

i stayed in cycle

[umbral cradle]

[faint lily]

@umbral cradle would you agree that in max/not missing ticks on judge you never have a chance to get step under damage? (Doing 1 mage hit from 3rd stepping stone)

Feels like you are always 1 tick off of it until it's dead

Dead in 2 mage 2 melee

[umbral cradle]

yea just 2 mage 2 melee

no point in doing step unders

[faint lily]

Great. I thought I had one run where I gained a tick and I was worried I had been missing a tick for 500 kc

[quiet flicker]

dont u get it the tick that ur gonna mage?

its melee> step under> then click away from under no ticks missed no?

im p sure judges second attack will align with stepunder

[faint lily]

You shouldn't get any step under damage not missing ticks and killing judge in 2 mage 2 melee hits.

I think the soonest you can get it is if you need a 3rd mage hit you can get step under damage before it.

[quiet flicker]

Oh yeah, damage

It will hit under him still yep

assuming youre both tick perfect it wont damage him

Cause u guys will kil him

but its nice if one of u misse sticks

then it will

[faint lily]

But unless your gear is really bad/missing piety/pots etc. it shouldn't happen yeah

[quiet flicker]

well, a tick

[faint lily]

Oh yeah missing a tick does it too yeah

But you usually end up waiting for your hit anyway, I guess might help you get overkill

[quiet flicker]

ye true, thats what im thinking

it might help with not getting delayed

[vast quarry]

2nd sensory kill

trying to figure out how to work OBS good

[sudden ocean]

what's your secret

[vast quarry]

i can send u my shit video i took

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVanyWBaiFs

did not even crop it

[sudden ocean]

freestyle mage
still uses scobo

am i just cooked

[vast quarry]

scobo too good

[devout coyote]

joack is the juice

i wasnt very good at the method but like 4 attempts and managed to finally do sensory after 50 failed freestyle attempts

[old phoenix]

Lol just got oathplate chest from lockbox while doing duo shard contracts

This shit is busted gp/hr

P3 hella fun content aswell

[atomic surge]

I'd much rather do this than kirby ngl

might also try barraging him

I couldn't get it to work on the main but I'll be on the iron with better mage gear

[devout coyote]

joack is a little unintuitive with how many different waits there are but i relabeled each tile with the tick you click to it on instead of just being sequential

[dire knot]

that freestyle wave skipping without getting melee'd is clean as fuck

[old phoenix]

LMAO

[vast quarry]

I did get meleed once at apoint

[old phoenix]

Now horn while doing shard contract

[vast quarry]

damn horn really 13m

fucked up

[dire knot]

i mean i'm getting melee'd just after dealing with orbs doing kirby method so you definitely gaming harder than me

[tired ivy]

It's giganiche

so yeah makes sense

[dire knot]

about to start recording attempts with nvidia will post for some critique

[vast quarry]

Ive used horn at duo tob so far

and it was super nice there

but that's about it yeah lol

[tired ivy]

Don't think anyone who tobs a lot is using it at tob

[vast quarry]

where are the places people think it'll be good at

[tired ivy]

yama

and uh

cm maybe?

[bleak moat]

cant wait to use it to gaurantee the first maul on tek!

[dire knot]

could be nice for guaranteed zgs on mutta

im a pea brain where else tho, just melee hand?

[sudden ocean]

lmk how it goes

how shit is the dps if just mainhanding barrage?

i guess you still wanna purge flares anyway

or wait you can't if on ancients can you?

idrk how the spec works

[tired ivy]

[bleak moat]

unethical gamer alert

[atomic surge]

very

the flares would be slightly scuffed

12t scobow in p1/p2 so you have to skip shadow which you do anyway

and 8t scobow in p3

so a little scuffed

but the upside is a much longer freeze duration

but the downside is the freeze is only 55% accuracy and has a 5t immunity

but the upside is it doesn't require spec and can be spammed in p1 p2 as well

to kind of unscuff the flares there

[old phoenix]

Undead grasp camp?

[atomic surge]

no

shadow/ ice barrage

undead grasp is dogshit

0dps and barely freezes

[old phoenix]

Yeah was joke xd

[sudden ocean]

is it viable to kill the flares without purging? sang maybe?

or just shadow?

[devout coyote]

i think before demonbane restriction was removed ppl were doing that

not sure

[misty marlin]

how do you kill flares with ice barrage tho

just yolo shadow and hope you hit big?

[sudden ocean]

mage always maxes on the flares

[misty marlin]

so you just sang them?

lol the p1/p2 orbs have like 66+66+2 hp

so you have to 3 tap with shadoww

[atomic surge]

Scobow

3 tap

[lone storm]

Does anyone know Yama's new max hit on Bloodied Blows?

[dire knot]

this is brutal

should i go down to black demons when i get blue sigil

complaining always works you cant change my mind

[dire knot]

fuckin hell my bpm is like 140

[tired ivy]

2 horns and nothin else lol

[dire knot]

is it obligatory to wear full radiant in your first tob after getting it

[sudden ocean]

of course

[atomic surge]

did you just stick with kirby or what

[dire knot]

i did

[misty marlin]

any tips? I've made a couple pbs with kirby method but I keep losing the cycle and falling apart

[devout coyote]

im a shill for joewatermelon melee method now

i wouldnt have gotten it without

[dire knot]

if you lose the cycle just try to scobo him asap and eat

i kept dying with food left thats a nono

id make 1 mistake, itd get chaotic, and id just kinda mentally give up, i watched a friends vod and he made tons of mistakes but just kept cool and ate and tried to get back into the cycle

[dire knot]

also count your purging staff hits out loud between scobo specs it really helps, i always stuck with 3 i didnt want yama to move at all

[vast quarry]

@sudden ocean

will link my attempt for no scorch bow sensory clouding in a second

[atomic surge]

how did it go

[vast quarry]

i got him to 33 hp and splashed 5 times but ill consider it doable

[atomic surge]

with freeze

?

or just giga freestyle

[vast quarry]

nah with only demonbane

definitely need to be good at telling when he'll attack based off feel so u can dodge/avoid melees

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpDi_pa4ojI

it also was rough because I tripled my client size nearly just so the video looks better lol

[atomic surge]

lmao

i can see how playing on the moon would help with this one in particular tho

[vast quarry]

the rage tiles

[misty marlin]

177 HP pb, but the consistency is not there

like 8/10 times I just fall apart in the first 15 seconds lol

[dire knot]

you got this, first 15 seconds is the most formulaic and then you can just copy it over and over

if you have a main the joack method might be worth practicing, wasn’t clicking for me but looks a lot more consistent

[devout coyote]

i regret not trying joack sooner

i did like 2 attempts with the tiles and decided it wasnt for me but if i stuck with it wouldve finished much sooner

once i readded the tiles got it in like 4 more

was just tough to accept trying to learn an entirely new method when i was already 50 deep

[dire knot]

that was my issue with it, sunk cost fallacy tbh. kirby’s method is full proof you’re just in for the long haul

[balmy raft]

is joack scobo req?

[devout coyote]

its used at the very end of the cycle to give you time to cleanly deal with the 2 voidflares that spawn

but I think you 100% could do it without

it would just be a bit harder

[surreal rock]

soo should I go get a 3rd synapse for contracts, I don't want to revert emberlight as I have no shards

[jaunty sapphire]

Autocast on tile

The amount of times I tried bonking a voidsphere

[faint lily]

Odds we see rubies on glyphic fixed today?

I think I'm gonna bond up the main for some practice and send it on the iron if not.

[sudden ocean]

the odds aren't helped by kirby posting a 600k budget clear vid

[placid mirage]

I doubt it. It's not a bug or anything. That's just how rubies work - ignoring brewed down/accuracy etc.

[sudden ocean]

i think it goes against the spirit of the "crush only" challenge but i do think the resulting difficulty is fine, and who knows maybe it was intended as an option, they could have just made him immune to mage/range

the method for awakened duke needs patched for sure though

also maybe just me but a crush only requirement for a contract about glyphs being more powerful never made any sense

[placid mirage]

wait what, there's a cheese method for ruby bolting duke lol?

[faint lily]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2470994526?t=1h25m00s

Actually way more busted. Just negates 95% of the mechanics

[plush shadow]

kirby has a mage meathod as well with only scobo/purging but ye if u wana use melee as a meathod (for sensory clouding)

gona need 3 synpase

[surreal rock]

Ye thats what I mean, if I revert emberlight I can't get it back

So it doesn't really matter if its scobo+purge, I would need ember+scobo or ember+purge

[surreal rock]

I wonder if 3rd synapse or 25 extra shards would be faster

[sacred badge]

Definitely the shards

(accounting for totem pieces)

[misty marlin]

it really goes against the spirit of the pinnacle content. this is the only contract you're really supposed to melee, so you have to understand nofly and also how to adapt to the off shifted waves; the range setup essentially makes the contract read "do a long Yama mage solo"

[plush shadow]

it does suck but way i see it sensory clouding already does glyphic but way harder

like u can mage it but with all restrictions alot of ppl opt to melee it still

even if u mage u gotta learn melee cycle

[misty marlin]

I think they test different things, at least the scobo method for sensory contract does. Glyphic with melee as intended feels more like Awakened Duke, Sensory feels more like Awakened Leviathan

[surreal rock]

Any guess on the difference? If Synapse is like 5 hours more I'd probably do that so I have it forever

[forest lagoon]

Its interesting they made the CA just a single contract

Does that imply they think its harder than DT2 or they just wante to show mercy to irons and poor people

[surreal rock]

Nah its the same as dt2

Blorva is 4 different tasks

[misty marlin]

Sensory is harder than any of the Awakened bosses but they should have locked GM behind radiant plate

I really think the only reason they didn't is because people were up in arms about contracts at all

[plush shadow]

^i think its very fair even if sensory is harder id argue the other ones even with the extra fight are a bit easier

[loud flame]

hey, it's pretty crap but I'm getting by 😄

[misty marlin]

But like, a Grandmaster should have completed all of the difficult content in the game

You don't have to be an true expert and flawless at it, but at least proficient

[plush shadow]

idk why they caved in like day 1 ppl said same thing about blorva first 2weeks to hard for gm

[surreal rock]

🤝

Well there were contracts literally incompletable and grinding them was ass

[plush shadow]

now im seeing everyone copping im somewhat there as well even

[faint lily]

They would have had to have added 5 CAs for contracts or make the CA "acquire a radiant kit" which is kind of weird.

[sacred badge]

Synapse is like ~7.7 hours shards are ~7.1 hours from dust devils, and Jellies are some amount faster than dust devils

[plush shadow]

they did that with blorva wasint much issue with it imo

4 seperate tasks

[faint lily]

Blorva had 4 bosses though

This is 1 boss

[surreal rock]

Damn ty 4 math beast

[sacred badge]

Idk how much better Jellies are but dust devils are my floor lol

[forest lagoon]

Im sure they could have had one for crafting the sigil or w/e

[faint lily]

"Kill Yama while wearing full radiant oathplate"

Really screw over those dirty irons

[surreal rock]

I think synapse angle for me also for futureproof then (delve)

[sacred badge]

Err typo fixed

[plush shadow]

could just be simple as fufill sensory of clouding contract etc

could have more fancy name based on contract details

[misty marlin]

semantic problems can be overcome

[sudden ocean]

one gm task for completing 5 contract fights would be crazy

[forest lagoon]

I wonder if they're going to make yama immune to snares, or if that was always an intended method

[misty marlin]

Just have each contract be a GM task

[sudden ocean]

but i wonder if 30 ca points from contracts would be too much

prob not

[faint lily]

That'd be really nice for the early master CA push

[sudden ocean]

its not like they're easier than most gm tasks

[misty marlin]

if they do I feel like they'll revert sensory back to phasing at 33%, otherwise we just have a brutal contract then

[plush shadow]

its easier but it still is really hard with "cheesing boss" u need to doge freeze him in good spots/manage spec

[faint lily]

You need double DC up and lightbearer. Seems weird/unlike them to smash emerging gameplay that is unique and still on theme for the boss

[forest lagoon]

Yeah seems like al lthe relyable methods count on snaring at some point

unless ou chicken him and just face tank

which that also seems like something theyll fix

[plush shadow]

theres some bruteforce meathods that just tank melees but has its own issue of void flare killing for 10hours

even if u opt not to scobo

[misty marlin]

unironically if you can dodge waves for 5 minutes in enrage then you can do the other methods lol

Yama meleeing isn't what kills you in p3, it's waves and fireballs

[plush shadow]

no matter what cheese u have to do its still rrly hard

[forest lagoon]

fair, I wonder if someone will come up with a nofly pattern to keep him towards the middle for wave dodging

[plush shadow]

think joack did that

[forest lagoon]

with scobo yeah

[misty marlin]

I wish servers were up, I was feeling close last night and just want to send it home

[forest lagoon]

its do-able without scobo but more jank

[misty marlin]

All this talking about sensory makes me wanna pot

[plush shadow]

need to get my daily 15-20sensory wipes in today

[forest lagoon]

I'm stuck practicing nofly and wave dodging for a while

Honestly the worst part isnt even getting contracts at this point, it takes like 4-5 minutes just to get to the part of the boss I wanna practice lol

[plush shadow]

ratio is alot better imo with the changes. u get to boss closer to 3mins for a good 2-3min enrage

[misty marlin]

random question, but do you roll the unique table on the contracts

[plush shadow]

whisp enrage was like 10seconds duke/levi as well

[forest lagoon]

Nah I mean for regular yama

[misty marlin]

I'm pretty sure my solo bloodied blows KC is faster than my solo normal kc

[forest lagoon]

No way am I making 100 pizzas to pratice a single kill

at 5 stock per shop

[sudden ocean]

contract of bloody blokes

[misty marlin]

alright I'm cooking, it looks like oathplate contract fights still roll the unique table, just not standard loot. so you can get oathplate/horn/shards/dossiers/lockboxes still

my bloodied blows kc was sub 5 min and I think I could cut that time down a bit with practice

unironically might just pot bloodied blows for last oathplate piece

no aether catalyst or demon tallow tho :/

[compact glade]

i'd prefer to see them revamp gm times / tune the task list before putting gm behind radiant

[vast quarry]

gm should be behind radiant

radiant is easier than blorva

honestly just something that shouldve been the default

[vast quarry]

hopefully they do that soon after the summer sweep up, aren't all raids times ez af to get now for example

i know cox are 100%

[forest lagoon]

I highly doubt they're going to retune old speed times

[misty marlin]

Make GM Great Again!

[vast quarry]

they're already taking away the 2min thralls from it

[compact glade]

me too, so if they're gonna let the difficulty of gm rot then whatever keep the hard stuff out

that's consistency baybee

[vast quarry]

might as well make it more prestigious if the rewards are going down

[tired ivy]

Going down for some people, going up for others

[vast quarry]

it was only the perm slayer helm bonus at zuk buff theyre adding right

for GM

[bleak moat]

Do you still have the normal pet rate of 1/100 with the new inferno perma task perk? Didn't see it mentioned anywhere

[forest lagoon]

It says none of the other benefits of being on task so I would assume its non-task rate

[tired ivy]

Would still be worth hunting tasks for pet with GM probably

[slow vigil]

As long as you have other slayer goals yeah

[vast quarry]

Jawn's pet devalued

[bleak moat]

I was more checking if they disabled pet rolls in general for it

[slow vigil]

Iirc even now it's strictly better to grind off task if it's all you care about

[forest lagoon]

Surely its actually just faster to get a task than clear 3 infernos right

[bleak moat]

I'll probably still keep it as a slayer grind. But it's tempting to full send for the nibbler

[forest lagoon]

Do you still need max mage -3%dmg for bloodied blows?

[digital jetty]

Need is a strong word

I’d say no, you don’t need it

[tired ivy]

That isn't even close to correct lol

[faint lily]

36 + augury yeah. Not technically needed, but helps a lot

[vast quarry]

would assume with proper block list u should get that zuk task within the time frame of a single attempt off-task (Even with helm benefits)

mega time save on task

[forest lagoon]

in my experience it was about 20min per task with a semi-optimal list

did have a few crazy dry streaks, but also had b2bs via slayer cape and luck

[faint lily]

Any other unethical gamers have suggestions for changes?

[bleak moat]

Going in without food or potions? You are a trooper, my friend. Good luck.

[faint lily]

Lol will add brews and restores of course

[split pagoda]

if that's what you got then that's what you got

[faint lily]

Yeah it's a bit scuffed but seems like I'll still have +5 prayer or so over Kirby's budget setup

[plush shadow]

the extra attack range might be nice if u had dhcb or zcb

idk hm itd impact

[faint lily]

I saw in Kirby's vid he was using the crap attack range for dodging waves. So I'll just have to keep that in mind

[dire knot]

ya now that i got radiant, make radiant required for gm

[plush shadow]

i wana just cop on main and go back to iron so bad really enjoying challange though

[wintry moth]

any yamaers?

ok

well

[umbral cradle]

[wintry moth]

:c

i forgot to use non-host tile

but my visual cue is blocked

@dim gazelle check this out

[umbral cradle]

yea u wanna use 1 tile south east of your "5" instead of "5"

and then don't wait, insta run 1t south, then attack

that dodges the non-host hourglass on that side when jellies spawn

[dim gazelle]

mine looked like this, 2nd attempt

[umbral cradle]

honestly guys, just forget about all these cycles

get an intuition for the 7t attack speed of the boss

and learn the 2 patterns for nofly

it's so much better

[wintry moth]

im gonna mald if i need to change method again lol

my obstacle is the melee is blocking my cue so it seems i can't rely on that anymore

[dim gazelle]

yeah i messed up there for sure

[umbral cradle]

this is the way

[dim gazelle]

thats so weird it doesnt show the melee hit in my pov??

[umbral cradle]

wym, when?

[wintry moth]

i dont want to minmax and overcomplicate

not yet anyhow

[umbral cradle]

I get it, not for everyone. But I am firm in believing that is the simpliest of all the methods

I'm not stuck in some set cycle that's doomed if I mess up or need to kill a void flare

it's 100% intuition based

[wintry moth]

does sound valid

[umbral cradle]

I can just break cycle, do void flare janitorial duties when my donofly partner messes up, and get back in

[wintry moth]

ngl i dont even know how to survive maging yama p3 on my own

[umbral cradle]

not to mention the fact that it's more efficient

[wintry moth]

yama cycle is seven ticks?

[dim gazelle]

yea

[umbral cradle]

@wintry moth I made this video to help people learn "nofly". One warning is that the horizontal pattern shown in the video is a little crappy and I have an unlisted vid in description showing the better one I do now + early wave skip from kirby's video. There's more to optimize, but if you just did these two patterns you're set:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CZjKw_e04Q

[umbral cradle]

8t p1-p2 and 7t p3 I believe

I should have added more reasons to the "why" section of the video

a really important reason is that you can just break cycle and clean up void flares and no worries about getting back in

[elder sky]

Does doing nofly tag someone doing donofly

[umbral cradle]

no, the two duo partners do not interact whatsoever in p3

[elder sky]

Ohhh ok

Nice

[umbral cradle]

the only negative thing could be that you visually throw them off if they are bad at the game

or they were relying on a better player (you) to help them get back into donofly by syncing up with you

[elder sky]

Yea if they’re new they can get upset

Nice guide btw

[umbral cradle]

ty, it's a little crappy but the basic concepts I think should help

[elder sky]

Very clear to follow

[wintry moth]

im learning i may need to not rely on visual cues anymore

[elder sky]

Prob needs long vids

[wintry moth]

looks like i will be doing the delay tech

[elder sky]

Haven’t read desc tho

[wintry moth]

this is an example of a non-host quirk, where i had to move 1 tick, but no delay?

[digital jetty]

Realest thing anyone ever wrote 😂

[dim gazelle]

thats so weird it shows a melee attack but theres no hitsplat even

[umbral cradle]

i dont see any quirk here

[wintry moth]

well, i got meleed ,right

[umbral cradle]

yea, because you were delayed

because you probably list ticks at the judge

[wintry moth]

ok, but insta move when i spawn in instance

[umbral cradle]

or your partner losts ticks in a weird way

[wintry moth]

i arrive on delay tile, i waited 1 tick, because i only had to run 2

[umbral cradle]

Yep, and you got meleed

was entirely ur fault

[digital jetty]

You didn’t insta move either. You moved 1t after ur partner

[umbral cradle]

should not have delayed on delay tile because you were already delayed

[wintry moth]

im not fault shifting

[umbral cradle]

you needed to insta send

you should have recognized that you were delayed

[wintry moth]

thats the non-host quirk? or does it happen as host aswell

[umbral cradle]

it has nothing to do with non-host

@wintry moth #1368632190723821729 message

[digital jetty]

Its duo thing doesn’t matter if ur host or not

[wintry moth]

hm

[umbral cradle]

if you sent the whole clip for context

[wintry moth]

i record only entry

[umbral cradle]

I would bet money that you are your partner were not landing hitsplats on the judge on the same tick

[wintry moth]

but i am aware there is yama minion quirks

[dim gazelle]

oh yeah i lose ticks on the judge for sure 😄 i didnt even know that mattered

[umbral cradle]

yea that matters

[dim gazelle]

damn

[umbral cradle]

it's not a 100% correlation

if ur on a diff tick, u can still spawn in same time

[wintry moth]

this is why i like the visual setupo

it escapes this shit a bit

[umbral cradle]

but the one thing that is 100% correlated, is if both duo partners are tick-perfect, neither will ever be delayed

also I believe it's thematic - the judge is judging your performance in the side area

[wintry moth]

i think thats too much of an expectation to set as the "solution"

[umbral cradle]

the examine text says "in the name of yama, you will be judged"

[wintry moth]

i understand it would solve it tho

[umbral cradle]

The actual solution that:

1. Does not require you to realize that you are delayed
2. Does not require you doing tick-perfect judge every time

Is to instead: wait infront of yama 1 attack deeper into cycle and react to animation, attacking at a particular time

can prolly ask around for tips on that one, lots of people in here do that

[misty marlin]

if you're 2t away from boss you can attack as he starts raising his hand, if you're 1t away from boss you can attack when his hand reaches the highest point before the snap

I find timing it 2t away easier

[wintry moth]

hmm

took two tiles to run. again delayed?

no pause, still meleed. logical seems it was not possible what i was trying then

[umbral cradle]

not delayed, your mistake this time was running straight east

[wintry moth]

oh

[umbral cradle]

you were perfectly diagonal to the hitbox of the boss, I would recommending tagging his true tile

(i think)

[wintry moth]

lol

i feel like my neurons are not allowed to just settle on one config

[umbral cradle]

yea i think thats right

[wintry moth]

checks out what you're saying, fairly ocnfident its correct

glad to know the timing wasnt off

[dim gazelle]

arent you supposed to go from that first attack to tile 2?

[wintry moth]

yep

the thing is if u "react" u run straight to 3

but since im now swapping i gotta adjust to running to 2

[umbral cradle]

again i gotta shill for the nofly

abandon these set cycles, build your intuition

take control

[wintry moth]

is the nofly lossless, or is the main benefit just not rigid pattern

[forest lagoon]

https://youtu.be/wHZjMAS8BS8

[misty marlin]

it actually gains ticks over fly methods sometimes

[forest lagoon]

This is neat

[umbral cradle]

it depends on how many advanced techniques you put in your toolbelt, but ur pretty much always going to be saving multiple ticks over donofly

for example if I get a close spawn and I get 2x vertical patterns, I'm over 2 full emberlights over my partner

16 emberlights vs 14 when we KO

for reference in kirby's video, that's hitting his "ultra god cycle" with early wave skip

[misty marlin]

even if you just learn the simple 2 methods you get an extra hit in usually in a duo

[umbral cradle]

yea

[misty marlin]

and if you break cycle you're not doomed

[umbral cradle]

yea

however it is a very big ask if ur not a hyper gamer

here's a demo of horizontal into vertical

that's really it, you don't have to add fancier stuff if you don't want to

just intuition of going in and out properly, and 2 patterns

really simple

i do an early wave skip at the end of vertical there to save 1 additional tick

u dont have to do that, could just go back to intersection and wait to drag in, losing the tick

[wintry moth]

even bailing on melee for mage i find really hard

the fucking pasta attacks are ruthless

[umbral cradle]

LOL pasta attacks

is that what we're calling the hourglasses

because its like a noodle falling from sky?

[wintry moth]

yea these fuckers

[umbral cradle]

hahaha

the bowtie pasta

https://tenor.com/view/days-of-our-lives-hourglass-gif-23939347

[wintry moth]

tbh i been contenplating some mage only kills just to learn those for when melee gets shafted

[umbral cradle]

people call them hourglass because of hourglass shape

[wintry moth]

but gamers tell me to just go for melee instantly instead

[umbral cradle]

also I think hourglass is actually thematic, because hourglass is a measurement of time

and when you get the attack speed proc by being adjacent to center bomb, you are speeding up

[wintry moth]

yama is a well designed boss no doubt

[umbral cradle]

which is time-related

[wintry moth]

im not complaining the mechanics exist. i mald over being bad at them reee

[forest lagoon]

I did donofly into maging the remainder for most of my solos

[umbral cradle]

the remainder?? u greenlogged already ?

oh remainder of kill nvm

im redacted

[wintry moth]

im not sure how to best deal with tilt here

[forest lagoon]

No you're right lol

I finished without legs but I crafted those

[wintry moth]

i got succesful monofly without the delay tech, just visual cue

[umbral cradle]

maybe start by tagging the boss (npc highlight, indicators)

[wintry moth]

so my brain learnt success by insta running to tile 3

now i gotta un-learn if i start delay insta tech

[forest lagoon]

Now Im learning nofly to get familiar with P3 for contracts rather than avoiding everything with mindless fly method

[wintry moth]

tile 3 was success, now it will be failure

[faint lily]

Greg's propaganda is working on me. I'm gonna learn nofly.

[umbral cradle]

l0l

[wintry moth]

yama feels conceptually similar to like melee hand ish

[forest lagoon]

I feel like nofly is like learning to do math with pencil and paper while flys are like a calculator

[faint lily]

Which contracts is nofly useful for? I was gonna do the cheese method for glyphic.

[wintry moth]

nofly seems like the ensemble of how to enter the cycle or whatever

[forest lagoon]

just glyphic, but knowing the attack cycle and being comfortable on p3 in general just helps

[wintry moth]

ok im gonna watch dmma

[forest lagoon]

You don't reallyget comfy just mindlessly clicking the same tiles over and over

[faint lily]

Gotcha, guess it doesn't hurt to learn still so I can just jump into solos instead of waiting for duos

Solos and duos are equal value for me now that I am just missing horn

[wintry moth]

it feels a bit like 4t mage on olm, u learn to the cycle, and just send

[umbral cradle]

If they haven't patched it yet, you can just do that ruby cheese method for glyphic

[wintry moth]

but that one is so simple

if ur intimately familiar with 7t cycle i suppose its the exact same

[forest lagoon]

I have stored my glyphic sigil piece in deaths office for safe keeping 🕵️

[faint lily]

Yeah that's what I was planning on doing. But I need to bond up the alt and try it tonight.

Only have 3 glyphics on the iron so hoping to 1nd it on there.

[forest lagoon]

If I did it in 3, you can do it in 1

[umbral cradle]

i think going off of animation and sounds really helps for the intuition

[faint lily]

Any practice or just seeing the method and going in?

I'm not gonna bother doing WGS on main for it. Prob just buy a SOTD

[wintry moth]

but then i get cucked if my partner gets meleed

i fucking hate this shit

interrupts my cues

[forest lagoon]

its just base awakened yama

[wintry moth]

leaves me highly regarded

[forest lagoon]

no extra mechanics to deal with

[wintry moth]

i cant win

[umbral cradle]

could you elaborate here? i do agree that the melee throws intuition off, because the animation ends much faster

but that's kind of a non-issue

because you just step away from the boss and do your void flare janitorial duties for your bad donofly partner anyways

[umbral cradle]

because it's free for you, but near impossible for your donofly partner

[faint lily]

Gotcha I haven't tried any contracts yet, I get jad hands so main practice will help me knowing I only have 3 tries on iron

[wintry moth]

i wait on 2 for my visual cue which is his hand releases from handle

but it gets BLOCKED

by his rat ass melee attack

[forest lagoon]

I was omega shaking on the last 200hp, still was fine you got it brother

[wintry moth]

the setup i spent all my time yesterday i gotta unlearn

[forest lagoon]

I do enjoy the noodle arm feeling though. reminds me of first zuk/sol

[faint lily]

What HP to switch to diamonds? Like sub 100?

[wintry moth]

its so tilting to go back to being regarded at yama after making progress

[forest lagoon]

I swapped sub 200

at 100 I went for double vw

[faint lily]

Oo okay I need to remember to bring voidwaker

[forest lagoon]

its massive for closing out the kill

[faint lily]

Thats smart

[umbral cradle]

looks like nothing really went wrong here except:

1. you're missing some auto attack prayers
2. your partner is a big noob
3. you didn't do the non-host dodge on west side as jellies spawned

[faint lily]

Judge weapon too but thata minimal

[forest lagoon]

I used sgs for that I think

idr

[wintry moth]

hm

[faint lily]

No sgs so I'll just VW slap

[wintry moth]

ok i forget that my timing mightve been fine here even if my indicator was griefed

[faint lily]

What does voidwaker hit in the prayer gear?

[split pagoda]

ur partner trolled

[forest lagoon]

Not sure on min hits, but surely at least 80 with double min roll

[split pagoda]

i think u were fine

[faint lily]

Gotcha. So just wait for sub 100 and waves to clear and send it

[forest lagoon]

yes sir

its pretty easy to not take damage as long as you don't get randomly flustered

so take your time

[faint lily]

I think jmods are gone for the day so I'm safe to get it today.

[forest lagoon]

I wonder if they're going to revoke sigils for that contract

[faint lily]

If it goes smoothly might go straight into forfeit breath.

[forest lagoon]

I think with whisp it wasn't an oversight it was bugged overall

[split pagoda]

there's some precedent with the whisp sanity bug

[faint lily]

It'd be a lot harder

[forest lagoon]

did they take away blorva or just reset prog?

[split pagoda]

not sure what happened if u kitted

[faint lily]

They would need to have a check for how you completed it. Because whisperer was a global bug, theres still people doing "normal" methods

Not sure on timeframe for whisperer, but has this gone on for longer now?

[split pagoda]

i just know if u didnt have it u had to get another kc

[forest lagoon]

well they may do a global reset, either way fingers crossed they don't remember to wipe deaths office lol

[split pagoda]

whisp was patched in a few days i think? up to a week

[faint lily]

Prob low priority for them today with the maintenance. Id expect tomorrow for it to be fixed or mentioned.

If it's removed I'll just go back and try when I learn nofly, but would be nice to get it done.

[forest lagoon]

does awakened yama have differing stats?

nvm only bloodied blows does

[misty marlin]

all the contract fights have increased stats, bloodied blows and glyphic also have increased hp

osrs wiki doesn't have it but gearscape does

[forest lagoon]

huh shadow is basically equal dps to dark demonbane

I guess Ill just send divine with only purging staff

err nevermind, shadow is way superior for enrage

[limpid mica]

Kinda weird that it’s not but at least I don’t have to farm demons rn

[dire knot]

you got it??

[limpid mica]

Naw I ain’t killing demons

Going for pet will be nice contracts at least now, I did 800ish duos to complete Yama and I only got 1 forfeit breath contract lmao

[faint lily]

Abuse early won for armor pieces, but the waiters won for acquiring contracts

[forest lagoon]

ya ill take the armor any day

[dire knot]

gotta kill like 1k for enough catalyst anyway don’t you?

[forest lagoon]

Going dry for catalyst is way less likely that for armor

[faint lily]

Hoping it gets changed eventually. But they are also adding more catalyst sources

Levi is relevant, sire not so much

Maybe we get some from delve

[devout coyote]

just let me mine it..

[plush shadow]

https://i.imgur.com/TYqPCBZ.png cumplate owner 5/5

[winter seal]

Missing the helmet

[dire knot]

boy made it back to the altar and picked up that sigil as waves were still coming

[lone storm]

Has anyone completed Divine Severance without 36% magic? I've come close but it's so much harder than just 1 shotting orbs

[plush shadow]

personaly just camped purg staff for all of contracts think its worth the qol

[misty marlin]

5/5, didn't end up getting it on the main but I was getting deep runs and just got it first try when I swapped over

[plush shadow]

hopefully can get on iron some day have the practice now

[split pagoda]

whats the gear lookin like now yowa..

[plush shadow]

this is what im at rn long ways away (have shadow forgot to green it)

[radiant sky]

ngl i feel a little bad when both of us get delayed and i assume we're on tick so i get meleed and they have no way of getting in dono lol

watching ur random ffa world teammate run around randomly taking hits over and over again is pretty funny tho

[devout coyote]

sir please go get a bgs

[tired ivy]

I really need to gwd and toa https://i.imgur.com/MVLH5Ld.png

[cobalt jungle]

if I havent touched contracts yet, is it still worth doing the cheese glyphic contract?

[sudden ocean]

That might be the easiest one yeah

Haven't sent enough forfeit breath to have a strong opinion

I bet they're comparable just cause breath is shorter

[balmy raft]

eh

i think forfeit is the easiest

the cheese method u have giga food but you still have to do like a 6 minute p3

[devout coyote]

yeah forfeit for sure the easiest

feel like the stam mechanic didnt really exist

dont think i ever died from it reaching 0 anyway

[sudden ocean]

I did but only cause I got wombo comboed by something else that could have killed me if I wasn't very high hp

[balmy raft]

i died once to getting overloaded by all the bars i had to fill after making a mistake

but that was mostly because i forgot that mark of darkness was a thinkg

[misty marlin]

the forfeit contract is just a "can you do the contract version of the fight, also don't forget to click vile vigour every so often"

cheese glyph is "can you do the contract version of the fight for 11 minutes"

[sudden ocean]

yea that was kinda my impression

i click stam pot with endurance ring but close enough

[balmy raft]

you can get contracts killing with the wrong style right? I've yet to get a sensory clouding off of mage camp when it isnt blue glyph

[misty marlin]

I swear that contract has the lowest droprate

you definitely can get off sigil though

[wintry moth]

if i have two dossiers, can chance one now ?

oriu said keep one until im past 100kc

on a different note, got my first double trip

[sudden ocean]

go for it

i didnt get my first til like 130+ kc

[forest lagoon]

2/5

I love how things feel impossible the first go around then you just progressively get better at it

how important is stamina ring for forfeit breath, or I guess how QOL is it? I think Ill just do sep now instead of farming contracts at work

[plush shadow]

i really liked it id use if u have it

but definitely not needed

can vile vigour its pgood to

overkill to go for it imo

[safe yew]

Jawn, what method did you do for divine severance?

[forest lagoon]

camped purging staff

[safe yew]

did you use scorching bow?

or just run around?

[forest lagoon]

no need to for htis one

thats sensory youre thinking of

divine is the prayer flick one

[safe yew]

ohhh your right lol

nvm lol

[forest lagoon]

fwiw I plan on doing the joewatermelon method for sensory

[safe yew]

i might try swithcing to it, not liking the scorching bow

i feel like once i get one thing wrong it throughs off the entire run

[atomic surge]

ok

barrage might not be the play

i swear

he gains giga mage def in final if he is frozen

this man is fighting his demons

[misty marlin]

what helped me with the scobo method is realizing that as long as he's frozen, I can move to any row in the skip column -- ie. you don't have to sit near the throne

[forest lagoon]

yeah lol that was a 1nd

[misty marlin]

so you can just freeze him anywhere with scobo and then move to the skip column at max distance

basically, after you kill void flares, you just always equip scorching bow when the 2nd fireballs drop and spec when the 3rd fireballs land, no matter where yama is

then position yourself at max distance on the skip tiles to get ready for waves and do the 3 hits > scobo > 3 hits > scobo cycle again

[atomic surge]

so you're just freestyling?

or is this wirth kirby movement

[misty marlin]

sorta

the kirby method is basically "dodge waves correctly, and scobo the boss every 3 hits until he spawns voidflares"

[atomic surge]

true ngl

[misty marlin]

kirby likes to kite yama back to that "scobo" tile and dodge the waves there every time

but I found it more natural to never do his "L movement" dodges and instead just line myself up vertical and do the straight line dodges so the timing was consistent always

Arguably the positioning in that screenshot is kinda nice because when you dodge the waves you're further away from Yama, not closer

so if he unfreezes you have more time to scobo

[atomic surge]

yeah that makes sense

[misty marlin]

but like, sensory clouding boils down to "if you dodge the waves and fireballs every time you will clear"

scobo and tile markers just help give you more space to do that

[atomic surge]

Maybe I'll give freeze sopme more attempts

[misty marlin]

I tried a lot of different methods, except jo-ack or whatever, and the freeze-freestyle was definitely best

[atomic surge]

oh i mean barrage

[misty marlin]

you want to be fluid, if you try a rigid cycle and fuck it up you'll just die every time

[atomic surge]

yeah

im feeling that 100%

i'll get it this weekend

cba playing for only 1h sessions on worknights can;t learn this sort of thing

[misty marlin]

also I brought 2 brews in which were lifesavers

1 brew I used at 2nd judge to get to full hp and then saturated heart

(i prepotted forgotten brew for p1/p2)

and the other ended up mattering for the end since I was falling apart a little bit, did a triple eat and ended the kill 33 hp no food

if you're not shadowing for dps brews don't nuke your dps which is nice

[atomic surge]

yeah i had been taking in 5b

mabe too much

[devout coyote]

i brought 2 as well for like all my sensory

would just chug 1 during judges then re div

otherwise think i had like 10-12 hard food going into p3

not that it matters much think most of my deaths still had food in the inv

my kc i did run out of food tho

was like 30hp

[split pagoda]

if u do the contracts again u get dupe pieces right? can u stack sigils like that

[faint lily]

The missus wanted to build/pick up a couch today so I didn't get to try glyphic cheese method. Let's see if I can get it done tomorrow morning

[dire knot]

kirby method + freeze freestyle when you mess up is 🐐

[tall oar]

i did this one https://youtu.be/S56CPsSsgLY?si=IdujctRvlcGnNgzq

its annoying and youre killing orbs 90% of the time but once you get the wave skips down it isnt terrible

[misty marlin]

if it works for you it works, but man I do not want to spend 90% of the fight killing orbs and skipping waves lol

[bleak moat]

I tried it, and it felt more cancerous than solo medic kephri 450

[devout coyote]

i think chicken might be harder than the other methods

[tall oar]

it sucks ass but you only gotta do it once

i was struggling hard with the other methods

[devout coyote]

dodging waves while under the boss so you cant see well + having to deal with orbs during waves while getting dragged into them because of 50% attack range

i genuinely think its harder than other methods lol

also lasts way longer

[tired ivy]

I tried it and did not have a good time

[tall oar]

i started skipping the waves pretty consistently after a while

its for sure not for everyone tho

[misty marlin]

idk my thought was why hit orb when I could hit boss

less like to make a mistake in a 4 minute enrage than a 6 minute one

[plush shadow]

i tried doing it 4 ways (freestyle mage/scobo,melee/scobo freestyle,chicken melee,kirby mage scobo) ultimately for me kirby meathod is what worked

its cursed no matter what u do though

[dire knot]

ya enrage seems to last an eternity

[wintry moth]

lol

thats quite dramatic huh

[sudden ocean]

Still stupid but sure is a whole lot better

[jaunty sapphire]

Managed to make one piece

[lone storm]

Divine severance 81 hp orbs, perfect

Didn't BB have high HP orbs too? I'm still unsure what health I need to camp p3

[sudden ocean]

yea but that's kinda the point

i believe it's 14 hp in max, idk how it scales

if your max hit matches the orb hp exactly then i believe you need to be 1 hp (gl)

2 shotting the orbs is always an option i guess?

[tired ivy]

I was just about to hit my 30k with zero oathplate lol

[lone storm]

Yeah I realize it's much less of a hinderance for BB. Mostly that I want to know the exact number and still be safe, and it likely will be different with worse gear

After 8 fails yesterday on Divine Severance got it first try post-patch. Turns out it's way easier when you one shot orbs

[tired ivy]

I can make my radiant armour now https://i.imgur.com/8BiOqip.png

[dire knot]

they better refund me those runes lmao

honestly idc if they refund the runes if they allow irons to use smithed oathplate on clog

[quiet flicker]

God bless america

Thank god i waited

(I had no choice)

[faint lily]

Time to get serious now

The mains bonded up.

Divine severance down to 81 max hit also should mean I can get away with just waiting for delve upgrades.

idk how low ill have to sit for bloodied blows though

[forest lagoon]

Anyone know Yama max with bloodied blows after the change?

[safe yew]

does yamas defense reset on enrage phase?

[vast quarry]

For mage/ranged chip damage in p3?

6 damage

[forest lagoon]

Thank sir

Got im to 370hp last night, but Im struggling with dodging the scuffed/unscuffed waves

I do like how fast the fight is though

[safe yew]

i really like kirbys method with the l tiles for that

[misty marlin]

His defence level doesn't but his style specific defenses increase

[safe yew]

so not really worth respecing if you already lowered to 145 when doing contracts then?

[misty marlin]

shouldn't be, no

[quiet flicker]

U cant drain that

Right?

[misty marlin]

you can lower base defence to 145

[quiet flicker]

Na i meant style specific

Can u do some bgs magic like at corp?

[misty marlin]

no, you can't lower style specific and since he has a defense cap you can't lower mage with BGS

[faint lily]

Would it be a safe assumption that if you can 1 shot divine severance void flares, you have enough magic damage % to say you can 1 shot bloodied blows at a reasonable/doable HP level?

[misty marlin]

I think so

I think Yama chip maxes a 5 or so

[faint lily]

Gotcha. Guess it's time to start the duke grind, so I can do those contracts. Magus + delve upgrades should be enough for me even if I don't get a virtus piece.

[plush shadow]

bracelet gona be insane for purg staff i feel like

[faint lily]

I would warrant a guess that it makes purging better than shadow for contracts.

Seems to be in that sweet spot for the biggest accuracy buff

[plush shadow]

honestly dk how big it is shadow gets buffed to

but im assuming its a bigger buff for non shadow then it is shadow

[faint lily]

True 6% is still a lot.

May depend on max hit thresholds, but it should be better for purging.

[radiant sky]

does anyone have a video for the "normal" donofly tiles

gregfly and nofly keeps getting all these ffa ppl killed lol

[split pagoda]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIQ9wN-Jcfk

this was the original

[quiet marsh]

sounds like they need to get good

[radiant sky]

ye but i can get even better and not lose my time to ppl not getting good ^^

if i needed gregfly to finish solos when ppl die id prob refuse to swap but i dont even use it anymore

[faint lily]

Are they just screwing up and trying to use you to get back into cycle and dying?

[radiant sky]

ye or using me as their way to get in cycle after having been delayed a tick on spawn

instead of using the yama attack

i have no idea how they get in cycle if both ppl are delayed tho

[faint lily]

Crazy lol

[wintry moth]

oh, so different patterns are not nescesarily compatible?

[vast quarry]

got my refund

[tired ivy]

They are. People just dum

[radiant sky]

its fully compatible but going to ffa world is a 50/50 on if ur gonna get a gm with white oathplate or a fire cape playing on mobile

and one of those groups might only be capable of handling certain movements on their screen without panic

[sudden ocean]

your fireballs don't hit your partner

the only way something could be "incompatible" is if it distracts them, which is a skissue on their part

and i'm 99.9% sure yama meleeing doesn't offset the cycle in any way, right?

[radiant sky]

the melee doesnt offset the cycle but it fucks over ppl relying on the auto to enter cycle

once again skill issue but most ppl will fail at that point

should just be able to enter cycle 1t after the melee

[forest lagoon]

the non-host gets a different fireball pattern which is what causes them to get hit

if they don't use modified donofly or some other method then theyll tank hits on 3rd cycle

[radiant sky]

victim number 5 of gregfly in ffa

[sacred badge]

PKing your partner doesn't give you the same unique rate as a solo right?

Probably still worth it for the prayer xp...

[lone storm]

No, it's still based on contribution. Any contribution they'd already gained is lost

[devout coyote]

honestly didnt expect to get rune refunded even if the cost changed so this is nice

[quiet flicker]

why do people get so confused ngl i never did

[quiet marsh]

Something something skill issue

[plain raft]

we're getting there

how hard is divine severance? it didn't look too bad from the video i watched

[atomic surge]

Mid

[gusty apex]

i got my runes back ^_^

[gusty apex]

joke status easy

[plain raft]

good

i had some issues with bloodied blows

very hard fight

[dire knot]

same! logged into mobile on the shitter at work to check

[faint lily]

For glyphic p2 does it always send the shadow wave X to where you are when its summoned?

[umbral cradle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHse1JnEadw

example pet session with chicken tech

still extremely monkas on iron

[bleak moat]

I was actually in the middle of watching this just now lol

that tech is so cancer

[sudden ocean]

chicken tech

infinite spec from purging staff + double dc + lb funneled into a zcb is crazy

has jagex gone too far

[safe yew]

someone needs to find a way to make the sensory fight a chicken and put me out of my misery

[sudden ocean]

don't you just afk on p2

[lone storm]

You can chicken sensory can't you? 7 Emberlight with LB, DC, surge, and a bit of luck wouldn't take too long

[misty marlin]

Yes you can chicken Yama, but if you can kill orbs and dodge waves for 6 minutes you can probably just do the kill normally with mage and scobo

[lone storm]

I think I'm going to use all 9 of my contracts on a crappy strategy then force myself to finish it with a new strat in 2

[forest lagoon]

4/5 just sensory left

[umbral cradle]

sensory

[plain raft]

same boat as jawn

severance was pretty easy, just gotta get better at p3 waves and stuff

not even close

[forest lagoon]

I also have 31 sensory contracts, I think thatsm ore than enough though. Just gotta study the method and not just send hoping for the best

[plain raft]

yeah it doesn't look impossible at all, just need a few p3 attempts to get comfortable with it

[radiant sky]

i did a bunch of these kills yesterday and personally im a fan of having both ppl hug the boss tbh

there were incidents where missclicks would send one of us flying outside of melee range for a bit

so if the other wasnt there it might have killed us

i didnt use it yesterday but i think sgs to be high hp start of p3 might be a good idea for a team with an iron too

it felt a lot safer when we were high hp from sang heals

i think i prefer the ancient mace tech over mining red topaz but neck of faith might be faster

your banking is a lot faster than ours

[elfin peak]

At the familiar aq contract deep into p3 orbs wont get 1 shot, am i missing something about this contract ?

[faint lily]

https://youtu.be/n5pteeFPlqc?si=Is5rs6x3surmn8D-

So gnomonkey saw noobtype doing basically the same method on twitch and uploads the vid of basically just a voiceover of a couple example kills.

I definitely get that he was working on the method/farming gp, but why delay your vid so long if that's all your gonna upload after someone else is streaming your method.

Cool method though.

[stiff dagger]

Avg for gnome

[surreal rock]

he wants the youtube clicks while still being ahead in farming gp

also all his "guides" are just voiceovers of example kills, if they are even that

[radiant sky]

the funniest part about these "solves" is that it means jagex dont have to make the contracts easier

so all the irons stuck with oathplate contracts are stuck with worthless pieces of paper

have a clannie who we all thought was finished with yama cuz he pulled 2 of them early on lol

[surreal rock]

I dropped mine over to main today

[radiant sky]

id prob keep mine just in case if i had one and if i wasnt going for green log anyway

but ye if ur going for log then its better to just sell it

[tired ivy]

Still holding as copium that it might get an easier solve eventually

[surreal rock]

I've got full oath already

not on log but eh

[umbral cradle]

u dont need either of these

what is your % success rate?

[wraith summit]

I was so hype to drop one on day 1, but now I'm just looking at wiping my ass with the contract

[radiant sky]

we failed 4 kills or so at start practicing with his contracts but since then we didnt fail any

[sacred badge]

Wait do Oathplate/Horn contracts not give log slots when you clear them?

[radiant sky]

no they dont afaik

[umbral cradle]

pretty sure they do

[radiant sky]

wait really? i had tons of ppl telling me they didnt lol

so meta for yama clog is actually buy oathplate contracts and pet contracts and do like 100 kc for green log

[umbral cradle]

yea... if u can pull off those methods lol

[radiant sky]

cant u just practice with pineapple pizzas actually

just restrict yourself to the glyph even if you aren't spawning pools

surely its way faster to do 100 pineapple pizza attempts to learn the method than a couple thousand yama kc for green log

[umbral cradle]

do u have a recording of your runs? im curious how many uve done in total so far

btw are u dodging waves or face tanking and pneckking every wave

[radiant sky]

no recording, i would guess 15-20 kills yesterday?

we dodge into yama

[umbral cradle]

how many contracts do u have in total on ur iron?

[radiant sky]

3

[umbral cradle]

and for the offset waves, ur pre-stepping left or right yea?

[radiant sky]

ye

looks like we did 10 with my contracts and we only swapped to mine after we were consistent so ye 20 or so was prob accurate

[misty marlin]

are you gonna do the scobo mage method or the joe watermelon melee thing?

[lone storm]

I tried Kirby's method for Sensory and it works well, but the "max range" tile was throwing me off. As I predicted, I used all of my contracts until I realized I should change it. It's so much harder to dodge waves+fireballs at the throne instead of just a few from where he normally stands

[misty marlin]

yeah my advice for the Kirby method is to ignore the tile Kirby freezes him on. when you kill orbs, you just equip scobo when he starts the fireball attack and freeze Yama wherever he is and then get ready to dodge the incoming waves wherever

arguably I think it's easier to dodge the waves in the middle of the room as opposed to the throne

[lone storm]

It wasn't until this contract that I understood why people were complaining about fireballs and waves at the same time. I was just always dodging from tiles that made them solve each other

Back to greater demons I go

[lament canopy]

jraze said they did when i asked in wiki discord

wiki should reflect that i think

[remote horizon]

was wondering why I was doing 0 damage https://i.imgur.com/XKzUSHZ.png

[lone storm]

Is meta for farming contracts still greater demons until sigil appears, then blacks?

[atomic surge]

Just afk greater

[quiet flicker]

I never switched

Just stayed at greaters

[balmy raft]

how did we arrive at greaters

[quiet flicker]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1091513489413120092/1380206126964150282/image.png?ex=6843089f&is=6841b71f&hm=3ea7132a047ff5486eae1b026428975fcf4f4e6543167072e95aad5018746077&

Damn

Uhhh

[balmy raft]

few months of that and he'll break even on what he spent on leviathan orbs

[sudden ocean]

but did you beat the boss

[remote horizon]

I did like 2 more attempts after that and had a 16 minute fight where the boss was at 35%

so I stopped lmfao actually cba

https://i.imgur.com/B4MgDNH.png

didn't bring enough restores

[faint lily]

Are you praying a ranged prayer? Can stop if so. Not needed for Ruby bolt procs. I caught myself putting on rigour by muscle memory

[remote horizon]

Nah I just only brought 5 restores or something

[lone storm]

Has anyone completed sensory no scobo with something other than Kirby's guide?

[misty marlin]

a lot of the week one clears including pecans' didn't use scobo

[devout coyote]

joewatermelons vid uses one but he dodges all the waves with the boss unfrozen and then only specs afterwards to more safely deal with orbs

i think it wouldnt be too much harder to just not use scobo at all for the method

if i didnt drop all my contracts already i would try to get a vid

[plain raft]

just afk as in no gear swap on wrong style?

[surreal rock]

ye it's pretty good if you have afk time at all

I got like 7 contracts yesterday on the commute to and from work

40mins on the phone

[plain raft]

oh wow, I've been swapping every time and getting less than that lmao

I was trying to stock up on bloodied blows and divine severance and I went like 45 mins without seeing anything

[surreal rock]

small samplesize, might not be representative

scythe with scb and offensive prayers with sunfire legs, 2min afk

[atomic surge]

Yes

[misty marlin]

the contracts have different drop rates for sure

sensory clouding seems to be slower than some of the others

[plain raft]

glyphic and forfeit are extremely common

[faint lily]

Surely they aren't going to change the Ruby method for glyphic at this point? Had every chance to with the last update to contracts.

[winter seal]

almost starting to believe accounts have different seeds for these contract droprates

[latent pike]

I just kited around doing stepbacks/nofly method, not "clean" but it worked

[plain raft]

brain has decided to betray me and convince me that i can't do sensory

stupid brain

[dire knot]

https://tenor.com/view/go-for-it-you-can-do-it-encourage-do-it-gif-14006408

[forest lagoon]

Ive resorted to teh chicken method lmao

Its wayyyy easier, just need to figure out the rhythm

[umbral cradle]

https://x.com/greg_btw/status/1930757917763891610

greg_btw (@greg_btw)

#59 1666 kc + 12 pet contracts. Thanks to @Travis__42 for being a beast teammate

X · Jun 5, 2025, 10:45 PM

pet contracts for the win

[sacred badge]

Gamer

[devout coyote]

1/100 seems a bit too common if they arent very hard to complete

my only reference was your vid though

[sudden ocean]

Eh they were going to make them guaranteed

I've always thought pets being super rare was kind of arbitrary

[tired ivy]

Copped my 30k https://i.imgur.com/dzT8IPR.png

[old phoenix]

Only need 7.5k for radiant now

[tired ivy]

Need armour for it too

[split pagoda]

have you gotten any contract clears mad or is that on hold

[atomic surge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBXRngR_I0s

for anybody who thought joak didn't have enough tiles

[sudden ocean]

not another fucking fly

[atomic surge]

if i get chicken to work it will be wizzyfly

[bleak moat]

The dude said he got skill issued in the description, and he labs out an incredibly complex kiting method

[atomic surge]

i was with him til lhe pulled out the scorch bow at tile #12.1

at that point why bother

[tired ivy]

Just did the 1 for gm

[split pagoda]

it's summer, they're coming out in full force

[plain raft]

That seems like so much more work than the Kirby method lol

[devout coyote]

this is what happens when you cant intuit a 1t wait

[umbral cradle]

it is ridiculously stressful

can only afford a couple fails on iron

then it's over

[devout coyote]

for an iron for sure

[tired ivy]

I got 3 now

[plush shadow]

did u try kirby meathod? seems like 360 degree diffrence approaching going from joack to chicken melee

[forest lagoon]

I may try that again, I only sent a couple of attempts before trying chicken

chicken is like not going to insta kill me if i mess up so its easier to practice

[bleak moat]

kind of tempted to try that freaky kite method. It kind of makes sense the more I watch it

[plush shadow]

ye i felt same way its nice not insta dying on chicken but for me the heat of actually going through kill that way was tough to

[devout coyote]

i think its bait

[tired ivy]

felt very bad when i tried it

[devout coyote]

you think its easier because you dont die instantly

but you dont actually get any further

[bleak moat]

it feels like an infinite game of whack a mole. I've tried the chicken tech

[devout coyote]

dying in 2 mins as opposed to 30 seconds but the boss hp is the same

i sent a lot of chicken attempts

[atomic surge]

ok I can get this

kirby

and yeah chicken is bait for sure

[plush shadow]

i havint seen many ppl actually win with chicken meathod tbh

apart from the guy that made that video idk anyone that has personally

[tired ivy]

Idk if this is better or worse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBXRngR_I0s

too many tiles

[atomic surge]

170hp pb i'll get it tomorrow

kirby is clicking

I had to stop doing random bullshit ""methods"" and just trust the process

[devout coyote]

i didnt end up doing the kirby method but i did a few attempts

i liked what river in here said about not dodging by the throne like kirby does in his vid if you do the method

just makes it harder for no reason

[misty marlin]

facts, just do the Kirby scobo method til you clear

just freeze Yama wherever he is when the last fireballs after void flares drop, and do the cycle again

[median bobcat]

IMO seems better than joack

Though in theory joack is fixable if you mess up , this seems kinda like if you screw up you die

[safe yew]

I've been really strugiling with sensory clouding. Ive been doing the kirby method and struggle the most after the first set of orbs and freezing him in the right spot. I know kirby uses the purple tile but alot of times when i stand there i end of tanking a melee which destroys the run. Anyone have any advice?

[plush shadow]

dont know if this will help but personally after i killed second voidflare i just avoided attacking boss while doging metors

[atomic surge]

ignore the right spot

[plush shadow]

so my attack cooldown was 0 and could insta scobo spec after second voidflare is killed/second metors

[atomic surge]

and just freeze him not in the center column

but wherever

[plush shadow]

also this^

ur spec energy isint ever going to be a issue even if u lose dps

i did it without double dc and was fine most vods ive seen ppl are chilling on spec

[atomic surge]

I also went back to bringing heart shadow

for the dps

[plush shadow]

i camped purging for qol of 0 way swaps either works imo

[safe yew]

alright, ill keep trying

[dire knot]

@umbral cradle holy shit i did not realize you were rank 7 iron clogger til i got curious just now and looked at front page

are yall gonna camp yama til greenlog or wait and see if jagex lets us use smithed oathplate pieces on log? i tried asking on reddit but goblin didnt respond

would just hate to do a bunch of extra kills for nothing

[median bobcat]

I doubt jagex will let us use smithed oath plate on log

Pretty big clogging advantage for irons there which is kind of unprecedented

[dire knot]

fair, i guess its good enough to be able to smith pieces in the first place

guess i have to ruin my clean 1k kc then

[lusty pike]

only mains are allowed to get a clogging advantage through oathplate contract 😉

[dawn current]

If I find a duo does nofly still work? or will I have to learn the same method as my partners?

[devout coyote]

it does

[umbral cradle]

non-host nofly in duo will need a mirror pattern

and mirrored vertical will get you hit if there are waves for non-host nofly

there are some pattern modifications u can do for that one

but tbh i would just ask your partner if u can be host

assuming the other person isn't nofly, so they dont really care

[lone storm]

This seems really solid, going 5x dry on ACB gave me complete confidence in clicking tiles. If I didn't already have a PB of 200hp with Kirby I'd do it for sure

[umbral cradle]

this is a lot of bank space getting eaten up by these contracts lol

kind of annoying

[lament canopy]

just put them in your briefcase

[radiant sky]

at least when yama is completed you can coffer anything left over

so its just temporarily lost bank space

[umbral cradle]

i am completed with yama now, but im concerned i might need some contracts in future

i guess I can just get rid of the radiant contracts, since u can easily just farm demons for those

[radiant sky]

why would you need radiant contracts? and for the others just complete them and ur done with them too no?

[umbral cradle]

who knows

[balmy raft]

im just gonna coffer extra contracts

[radiant sky]

i would just practice for and complete any acquisition contracts i might have and coffer all radiant contracts

[devout coyote]

i dropped all my excess radiant contracts, just kept a few pet ones even though I have it

[umbral cradle]

@radiant sky do u have an updated figure for your % success rate on pet contracts

we're discussing iron ehc in temple and trying to understand the picture

[azure laurel]

Are contracts cofferable now?

[sudden ocean]

i thought they always have been?

coffering oathplate contracts seems like the play

[azure laurel]

Oh

Yeah I’d 100% coffer if I got one

[sudden ocean]

unless you're a very confident gamer

[azure laurel]

Coffer or bond money for 99,99% of players

[radiant sky]

no i stopped, i'm just gonna finish items for now

[umbral cradle]

what was your % rate when u were doing it, out of curiousity

also, any particlar reason why you stopped? did you lose your duo partner or did he start wiping you?

[radiant sky]

ye it seems like a pain to go learn the method, could prob grind out an item by the time u feel like u have mastered it enough to try on the iron

[lone storm]

I highly recommend the cloudfly method for anyone struggling with Sensory Clouding. It's similar to solo bandos where it's hardish to learn, but just muscle memory once you get it

[radiant sky]

eh prob like 70% success rate with most failures while learning

i think 90% sucess rate after practice isnt very unrealistic but also not great considering that still doesnt give you good odds for pet