Yama - May 14

[atomic surge]

so you can do it in turbodogshit

it matters a bit just not much

[bleak moat]

I was hitting like 220s

[atomic surge]

addy cbow proselyte with +50 pray can hit 190s

so it's kinda whatevermst

[bleak moat]

bigger number makes the pp hard

[devout coyote]

am i really gonna throw on the rcb and range glyphic

[atomic surge]

before monday yeah

[bleak moat]

it works

[devout coyote]

im like 30 deep attempts might go for it

at least glyphic is super common

[wintry moth]

is there a nooba world

seems so

[misty marlin]

purging spec counts for glyphic now btw

[devout coyote]

oh thats nice

i really need more sensory though 😭

[quaint stratus]

you think its gonna get patched monday

surely i can do it in 7 attempts

[devout coyote]

the fact that its viable goes to show how poorly it was tuned

weak to crush is a joke

[quaint stratus]

ya its hardly "weak" to crush

[devout coyote]

if i was on a main id legit just tele out if i missed hammer

[quaint stratus]

its just titanium to everything else

[atomic surge]

if you've done other contracts, yes easily

[quaint stratus]

it would be my first

wasnt planning on doing any but this looks like a do asap situation

was just gonna use the kirby tiles for p3

[forest lagoon]

@atomic surge thanks for sharing the attuantion range method 🙏

[sudden ocean]

aether runes spotted

man is NOT getting radiant plate

how many restores would you recommend for this?

[atomic surge]

6 was fine

[atomic surge]

for this one it's ok i used like 100

but i'm not using them for the ones where I actually cast demonbane

[devout coyote]

1nd with rcb cheese after like 30 fails 💀

9:38 not even a bad time

[wintry moth]

progress i think

[sudden ocean]

died to a flare explosion cause i didnt know the protection was so short

f

shit seems easy though

75k death fee

stop moving away from the glyphs you fucking dumbass

[wintry moth]

struggling to get it

this time from like weird camera fuckery

lol

im sure its like door altar

just with extra prayer flicks

[sudden ocean]

died again to short protection + brewing up + staff bashing the flares that's a smash desk moment

[winter seal]

pretty sure ur first click is a tick late in both of these clips with that 2 as your starting tile

[median bobcat]

How important is vw for glyphic cheese

[tall oar]

i didnt bring mine and it was fine, probably just nice to move a phase along

[wintry moth]

is it not when axe goes up?

[winter seal]

u clicked at the peak on the first 2

[wintry moth]

ok what about this one

i tank a melee

[winter seal]

yh that was the timing but u went back to 2

[wintry moth]

ohh ok so the first two clips i start correct

but i fuck up the timing on running back to 2?

[winter seal]

on the third clip is correct start

but u went back to 2 instead of going to 3

[wintry moth]

ohhhh

going to 3 is correct?

[winter seal]

yeah

[wintry moth]

OH

so what reckless does here is sneak in extra attack at the start

i thought he just started it in a more aggressive manner

and then defautled to the cycle

[winter seal]

yeah

[wintry moth]

ok i se

[winter seal]

u can also see his click from 2 is right as yama starts moving

[quiet flicker]

prob took inspiration from the recently discovered range tech at awakened duke kekw

[wintry moth]

lol i get violently smoked when trying to escape from donofly

oh well

tob calls

gonna send more attempts later

[devout coyote]

its not

double spec for the last like 140ish hp but you could just bring an actual crush wep and do a few hits normally prob

or keep crossbowing

[runic obsidian]

if you're going to escape the kiting method and just freestyle then you should stay north

otherwise you cant react to waves

like NW or NE of the boss so you're far enough from your teammate not to rag him

[dire knot]

well i bitched a lot last night but i’m up to 4/5 with just sensory left now 😪

[atomic surge]

the what

[quiet flicker]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2470994526?t=1h25m00s

[atomic surge]

what the sigma

[quiet flicker]

basically u just afk

and zcb

and move a little

[vast quarry]

shouldve waited to do that awakened

i couldve abused it!!!

[faint lily]

Bro wtf is that

[sudden ocean]

i cant fking do contract p3

it breaks my brain idk why

[sudden ocean]

lmfao

[plain raft]

what did your invy look like going into this?

nvm i just found your youtube vid :d

[sudden ocean]

gotta 2 shot void flares in this gear i guess

shit sucks

[plain raft]

no ardy 4?

[sudden ocean]

i was just gonna say i could take an ardy 4 radas 4 switch lmao

would that be enough?

[plain raft]

not sure, i'm about to attempt with this

[limpid mica]

Just 2 hit the orbs it’s fine

[forest lagoon]

you take minimal dmg if you hit only once anyways

[limpid mica]

U hit like 99% of its hp I think but ya no big deal to 2 hit em

[bleak moat]

I think I maxed 130 on the orbs with stole and no radas. Everything else bis prayer

[sudden ocean]

Shit is miserable in p3

[limpid mica]

U 1 hit them in p3

[sudden ocean]

wrong

not in this gear at least xd

[limpid mica]

? I just did it

[misty marlin]

you definitely do, you didn't have mark of darkness on

[limpid mica]

U hit 130s lol

[sudden ocean]

...this is more than likely correct

stupid ass spell

[plain raft]

refresh it as you kill judge

[misty marlin]

just click that shit all the time

[plain raft]

or that yeah

[misty marlin]

basically every time i swap to purging i just click mod

[sudden ocean]

i hope whoever designed the void flares stubs their toe every morning for a month straight

worst part about the boss and its not even close

[atomic surge]

i just 2 shot em it was fine

[atomic surge]

maybe controversial but I think awakened yama is dogshit misery compared to awakened dt2

it's like they didn't know how to make the base mechanics more intense so they added 5 different sets of random bullshit excuses just to give him the ability to 1-2 shot you

this isn't pure cope because I'm 4/5 and going to get 5/5 pretty comfortably, I'm just not finding it fun

took me way longer to get to 3/4 dt2 and I was loving it

[bleak moat]

I feel that. The only dt2 awakened fight I wasn't crazy about was whisperer because the hardest part was getting sharex to work correctly

[radiant sky]

eh i think they did pretty good for having 1 week to design 5 end game fights

[atomic surge]

sensory is 1.7m what the heck

[radiant sky]

they all have pretty different gameplay and focus on different mechanics

and i kinda like that you can practice a lot of the contract mechanics in the base fight if you want

[misty marlin]

I've had fun doing all the contracts except glyphic

Bloodied blows has been my favorite so far

[wintry moth]

two learning donos together, is this appropriate?

[vast quarry]

divine and glyphic my favs

[radiant sky]

can do north/south melee if you fail

thats how we learnt dono first couple of days

[sudden ocean]

i just sat at boss at 190 hp for so fucking long man

i need to just send these vws

death charge the flares

decent practice though

[atomic surge]

with 7t metronome, if i press 'yes' on contract at 1, when does yama attack?

i know for p2/p3 he attacks the same tick as the last number before fadeout

[wintry moth]

regarding yama, does the specials always proc "well behaved"

i.e. they follow the circle?

[atomic surge]

no

they alternate

[quaint stratus]

ran out of glypics

unlucky

[wintry moth]

so the first is random, and then they alternate?

[radiant sky]

the first special is always the colour of the 2 glyphs next to throne

so you can start there and move your way through the circle

[wintry moth]

are the top two always the same color?

[radiant sky]

yes

[wintry moth]

ok

Oriu said yama's dmg depends on how far he is from anagrams

[radiant sky]

the first auto is always the opposite of those 2 glyphs too

[wintry moth]

is that tech worth caring about yet or nah

[radiant sky]

you can maul > 2 hits > grab glyph to keep him in middle p1

and then if u dont lose ticks u can always grab the next glyph from middle tick perfect too

but ye its not rly important at all

[wintry moth]

ok

ok

[radiant sky]

can also do what mad does and force him to mage/range by stepping back

[wintry moth]

ill find a shitter duo and practice

[radiant sky]

but also not rly important at all

in the end sgs outheals all

[wintry moth]

dont have that wep

[radiant sky]

and eventually if ur 1 divining you dont even need sgs

[wintry moth]

tbh there is nothing stopping my account pursuing zily atm

and im not sure i even mind the grind but lol

[radiant sky]

i would prob go grab it tbh its so good at yama

[wintry moth]

it really is?

[radiant sky]

especially if ur duoing with randoms

[wintry moth]

im down bad on food atm

ok fk it im learning zily today

[faint lily]

Important to note that if you aren't horn mauling you won't have an abundance of specs though.

[radiant sky]

ye i would only duo with horn+maul tho

[wintry moth]

one debuff to the saebae resolution setup is alting becomes ass

[radiant sky]

fuck that early days shit where we used 300% spec and reduced def by 5

[wintry moth]

im not sure if i've figured out how i want to manage like alting

[vital copper]

Is solo mage viable with full blue moon, torm, mages book, purging staff. No occult. No second synapse. 80 Def 92 mage.

Like the idea of skipping ahead to get oathplate, but might be better to just focus on slayer and get there eventually?

[radiant sky]

ah i didnt mean to alt just be strict in who you duo with

ah but its fucked if u dont have a maul i guess

[faint lily]

Horn is my last item and I don't have maul or DWH, so I'm bit of a leech.

[wintry moth]

ah im a dwh gamer

[faint lily]

But my brother is my duo so it's okay.

DWH is good enough

[wintry moth]

does the sgs tech matter for solos

[faint lily]

If you are horn alting yeah

Can get longer trips

[radiant sky]

sgs is good in all scenarios except if ur duoing with someone who banks extremely fast and u both just send b claws instead or if ur spending all ur spec on trying to not miss with bgs

[wintry moth]

is zily generous with food, or is ancients reasonably required for comfy trips

[radiant sky]

im not rly sure if meta would be sgs long trips or b claws fast banking with these new teles tbh

[radiant sky]

i like ancients to afk more but i think some ppl use bones to peach tabs instead

[wintry moth]

ngl i feel like i may be overengineering this a bit

sgs would benefit quiv too tbf

[radiant sky]

if u feel like sending yama then send yama and if u feel like sending zilyana then do that ^^

[quaint stratus]

so for glyphic, i spawned into p2 and he ran up and meleed me?

ididnt even get to attack

[bleak moat]

if you attack with mage, he will stay still. If you dont do anything to him, he will pursue

or any ranged attack also

thats how it is in normal as well

[umbral cradle]

has this just always worked

or is there a recent bug making that good?

[limpid mica]

Always worked as far as I know, saw a clip of another streamer doing that a while ago

[plush shadow]

https://i.imgur.com/fcVGY7w.png just sensory clouding left 4/5

[misty marlin]

I think there are like 4 people in this channel 4/5 with sensory left lol

I'm hoping I can bang it out tonight

[plush shadow]

sensory harder then all 4 other contracts combined imo so not suprised

[misty marlin]

I'm studying the Kirby video

seems like he cheeses p3 with scobo

[plush shadow]

feel like if ur really good at tob/verzik it will be natrual to u

i was sending mage for all my attempts but ive switched to melee it seems way more cheese

u can just tank the melees

[devout coyote]

the joack video dropped earlier if you want to melee

[plush shadow]

ye sure can u post ive been trying to see alot of diffrent perspectives for it

[devout coyote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WREWgVMiDi8

i think melee has promise but the method seems a little unintuitive with how many waits there are

ive done my last 10 or so attempts trying to melee and a couple trying this method

I think the play for me is just hotkey resetting metronome and then stepping back as much as possible and then probably just tanking boss during waves so you can focus those

melees do like no damage with enough ember specs

[plush shadow]

big problem with tanking melees isint the dmg imo but the void orbs he spawns cuz of it

[devout coyote]

you have time to deal with them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S56CPsSsgLY

heres a much less refined melee example lol

he spends 6 minutes chasing orbs

[plush shadow]

ye i saw that one

[devout coyote]

i think it would be a lot easier to step back when theres no waves and then just tank and deal with orbs when there are

felt like i was getting close but alas im back to greater demons now

[quiet flicker]

think it always worked

but bro was trying the surgepot

[sudden ocean]

5 more attempts of the glyphing thing

[atomic surge]

sensory clouding is 2m a pop

thats kinda fucked

[quiet flicker]

ye everyone cheesing it thats why

no?

when cas came forfeit was like 3m and 200k enxt day lol

[atomic surge]

no

sensory is the hard one

[sudden ocean]

glyphic is the cheese one

[devout coyote]

i figure itll crash in another week or so

price definitely isnt reflective of the rarity

you can accrue them pretty quickly

[atomic surge]

yeah but i want to do it now

[quiet flicker]

oh wait ye im tripping

is it hard to farm or something

or is the demand just that high cus everyones wiping it

[atomic surge]

the latter

[vast quarry]

Where my radiants at

We’re gonna make a gang

[atomic surge]

4/5

getting a bad vibe from sensory

did you melee or do the kirby mage stuff?

[tired ivy]

https://i.imgur.com/vcurLg7.png

[atomic surge]

give it to greg too

he has it

and pecan

[vast quarry]

Sensory doesn’t feel as bad as others

You can farm them fast and you get to p3 very consistently

[atomic surge]

oh yeha

that's true 100%

unfortunately my main does not/will not have good dc

[quaint stratus]

ill prolly do a few more glyphic attempts, its not working out for me i think

[devout coyote]

i think sensory is one of the rarer ones to farm

hard to say but today alone ive only gotten 6 in like 2 and a half hours of demons

[misty marlin]

gonna plug my suggestion post 😄 stormlight archives is great, role should be called Radiant#suggestions message

[devout coyote]

regardless of any reference radiant is just a better name for the role

[misty marlin]

joining the club tonight I hope, potting sensory now

[vast quarry]

I upvoted it!

[quaint stratus]

are black demons best rate /time

[wicked comet]

cox i think

[lone storm]

Why does Yama drop a lifetime supply of surge pots in the time to 3/3 but less aether than it takes to simply make the cosmetic?

[atomic surge]

15m in contracts later I realize my scorching bow was on longrange

[quiet flicker]

valorant reference 😭

[sudden ocean]

made it before the patch

no rollback kcs

[tall oar]

is there a consensus on which demon is the best to farm

i just need sensory clouding

[runic obsidian]

Probably lessers for the contracts you don't need more of, and blacks for the ones you do need more of

[tall oar]

like kill lessers until the sigil is the one i want?

[devout coyote]

the lesser demons only have like 8 less hp

if the rates arent the same id think its better to just keep killing greaters

[true furnace]

lessers unless u have the lesser demon champ scroll xd

[devout coyote]

i dont but id also rather get hard clues

[sudden ocean]

this made this garbage content feel worth doing

[atomic surge]

greaters

this tile

rumors going around about 7x emberlight speccing yama during p1/p2 of sensory

and then yama has no melee stats

and then you just facetank him

[sudden ocean]

lmao

[misty marlin]

I've been trying that but p3 is kinda whack with melee

[tired ivy]

yeah p3 is still an adventure

[misty marlin]

unironically considering a full melee into full mage swap

that way if he melees you at least you're still alive

[atomic surge]

as in afking p1/p2 for a few minutes to do the full specdown?

to chicken?

[tired ivy]

after 3-4 specs he's still pretty crippled

[atomic surge]

facetank melee would probably take a minute

if you're perma 6ting

[sacred badge]

7ting unless you're eating every hit

[atomic surge]

ah ye

[tired ivy]

definitely spend more time hitting flares than the boss lol

[tall oar]

facetank melee p3 you mean?

[sacred badge]

yeah, and killing an orb every hit

purging staff spec takes 3t to land but only adds 2t to your attack cooldown

[atomic surge]

ye

[sacred badge]

so normally it adds 3 ticks to your attack, but if you eat then you saved a tick vs eating any other time

[atomic surge]

well

might give it a go or two

[tall oar]

sounds annoying as hell but way easier

[atomic surge]

gotta use the iron's orbs

[tall oar]

tbh im gonna farm like 50-75 of these contracts and there will hopefully be a good method out there lol

[tired ivy]

75? holy

[tall oar]

maybe thats a dramatic number lol

the other 4 took me less than 10 each other than bb which took me 15

sensory got me scared though...

[plush shadow]

seems like theres some bs regardless of sensory cheese even for facetank melee orbs/waves seem challanging

[dire knot]

i am also 4/5 struggling with sensory

lowest ive gotten him was 360hp and i think it was a fluke

[tired ivy]

Think im gonna try this with a couple emberlight specsto start out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WREWgVMiDi8

[dire knot]

that looks just as hard as mage ngl lmao

getting the prayers while doing that...fuk

the extra enrage hp just made this absurd

[forest lagoon]

Thats a really inventive strat, pretty cool

[tired ivy]

wait shit that "needs" 3 synapses

[forest lagoon]

do-able with arclight

[tired ivy]

doable without purging too tbh

actually idk

[tall oar]

i feel like the play is spam ember specs and then melee p3 but scobow spec him during waves?

[compact vigil]

melonmob

[atomic surge]

if he's chickened it might be easier to just shiftclick dodge under him

[tall oar]

does he melee if youre under him? id be worried about spawning more orbs and getting rinsed by them while trying to deal with waves

[sudden ocean]

lf non scobo method

[umbral cradle]

the ruby proc for glyphic attenuation?

[misty marlin]

yeah the facetank sensory method sucks from what I can tell

getting meleed blows cause orbs spawn in Timbuktu and you have to run across the whole map to hit them

way more likely to die to that, I'd rather just kite with mage and just double eat if I get meleed

[dire knot]

this is a fucking horrible contract lmao

10x as many attempts as any other put into sensory

genuinely not making any progress whatsoever

[dire knot]

ya idk. genuinely dont think im getting this one without a nerf or any easier method than that insane melee bullshit

[umbral cradle]

?? wym it's super epic

one of the most exhilerating boss fights in the game

[devout coyote]

i thought bloodied blows was exhilarating because p1 p2 were super quick and p3 was super tense

not a fan of sensory rlly

[umbral cradle]

the same is true for sensory

[dire knot]

nah this is dogshit design

bloodied was fun af, felt like you could actually solve it

[umbral cradle]

wut lol

the panic inducing boss chasing + multi waves is 10x more interesting than just being on 1 shot hp

[devout coyote]

idk sensory doesnt really feel tense to me p3, most of my deaths are a slow burn

kinda yapping bc its the only one i havent finished but

the one ive enjoyed the least i think

[dire knot]

you only get 1 shot if you dont follow the pattern

[umbral cradle]

lol

xdddd

[dire knot]

bloodied is good, sensory is literally bloodied with a bajillion more things to think about

youre 1 shot if you get melee'd or miss a pray

[umbral cradle]

thats not true

[dire knot]

it literally is lol

or you can run around like a lunatic playing like shit eating constantly like deviate

not my style

this one just doesnt vibe well with what im good at and ive done literally everything else in the game if that says anything

[umbral cradle]

yea that happens if you lose control

and its intense to fix it

better than getting 1 shot

[dire knot]

there is too much shit to focus on, that is not enjoyable. its literally bloodied with 1 extra thing to focus on, boss attack timing

so you dont get melee'd running after orbs

nah much prefer the 1 shot, its easily solvable

[umbral cradle]

lmfao

[dire knot]

theres a reason most people are 4/5 missing sensory youre the odd one out here lol

[umbral cradle]

ur conflating difficulty with quality of the fight

[devout coyote]

i wouldnt liken it to bloodied, the hp management makes it very different

[dire knot]

you do realize each person can have an opinion right

theres no objective fact

[devout coyote]

ive been trying mostly melee for sensory and i think most of my deaths come to tanking waves under the boss

[dire knot]

about which ones you enjoy or dont

[devout coyote]

might try blindfold + better npc highlight to outline

[dire knot]

we like and dislike it for the exact same reason - i don't like how different it is from typical yama and i feel like none of the kc i've done prepared me for sensory

coupled with the dogshit ass contract system that just makes for an unenjoyable experience. off to go afk greaters during work for more contracts lmfao

[umbral cradle]

no, we seem to disagree about some more factual-related things, regarding getting 1 shot

[vast quarry]

I like not being prepared for harder versions of boss fights

[umbral cradle]

if u did nofly you would probably be more prepared for it

[vast quarry]

Having to learn and adapt is fun

[umbral cradle]

not sure if u have/havent

lmk

[vast quarry]

I maged/scorch bowed while kiting around the arena

[umbral cradle]

i also disagree with this opinion, i think the contract system is fine

you get them stupidly fast and can just afk them

[vast quarry]

I think the one flaw with the contract system is that you can’t get glyphic attenuation contracts (spec attack finisher) with the purging staff special

[umbral cradle]

"what if the boss wasn't frozen in place, but instead pursued you on P3?"

"Ahhh! my simple pattern solves don't work anymore! Bad design!!!"

its exhilerating

[devout coyote]

you do now

[dire knot]

i disagree but yall can feel free to circlejerk each other all you want lmfao

the sweats that have already completed this of course are gonna be fine with contract system

[vast quarry]

Does it now??

Might go for a second symbol then

Might even circlejerk with the boys afterwards to celebrate

[dire knot]

standard anime avatar behavior, makes sense

"i completed it, you are wrong"

[devout coyote]

do it

[vast quarry]

I mean it’s as simple as go and get the contracts then keep attempting it

[devout coyote]

im miserable at greater demons

and i would love the company

[umbral cradle]

saying that the design of something is bad for x,y,z reason, engaging in debate on those reasons, and then saying "it's just my opinion man" is like wildly cringe btw

[vast quarry]

No need to complain u didn’t get good practice on a contract because they added a new mechanic to p3

[dire knot]

that is quite literally what an opinion is, are you disabled?

[umbral cradle]

wow ablism much? that's pretty rude man

might as well just not engage in conversation with u about any of these opinion related topics then

I like sensory clouding (don't ask, it's my opinion, just shouting into the void)

[vast quarry]

If you want sensory clouding done just mage it

https://youtu.be/kdwIn9kj9YY?si=iECwmbj8VaxndeXf

If a mobile player can do it anyone can…

[devout coyote]

there should be a cm olm contract where he has full room vision at all time and never turns the head

[umbral cradle]

the design of Sensory Clouding contract is good because waves do not happen in the fight, and the boss cannot move.

[devout coyote]

that would be sick...

[dire knot]

forgot you gonna get hit with the akchually boys expressing frustration in the thread late at night

[umbral cradle]

[dire knot]

shoulda waited for the sensory hating homies to wake up for work

[vast quarry]

I mean your frustration is “there’s too much to focus on, it’s not enjoyable”

That’s why u do it once and never again

[dire knot]

working on it 🙂

[tall oar]

sensory p1/p2 is pretty fun ngl, p3 kind of a shitshow

[vast quarry]

Good luck 👍🏼

[umbral cradle]

THAT FACE when the challenge is too challenging

[tall oar]

im just gonna farm a gorillion contracts and send it

[dire knot]

lol, when the majority of people are sending 2-3x as many attempts on one contract as the others, it doesn't fit

[vast quarry]

That’s just personal issue

[dire knot]

then again i love awakened levi and that shit's the same

[umbral cradle]

LOL

[vast quarry]

I sent more attempts on bloodied blows than I did sensory

[dire knot]

then my opinion is you suck, skill issue

i'll give you back your own medicine lmfao

[umbral cradle]

everything has to be the same! equal!

equal difficulty

[vast quarry]

That’s fair

But I also have the role

Soooo

[dire knot]

you also have an anime profile pic

soooo

[vast quarry]

0/10 rage bait

Go farm your contracts lil man

[umbral cradle]

ye 0/10

if you put the same effort into trying to complete sensory clouding as you did writing in discord why its design is supposedly bad, you'd be done by now

[vast quarry]

Best part is my pfp isn’t even from an anime

Love to see it

[umbral cradle]

also, anime is good

[devout coyote]

is that your opinion or am i allowed to debate it

[vast quarry]

You can’t debate it

[umbral cradle]

no sorry, that's just my opinion

no debate

[dire knot]

go to bed gents, you have 16 hours of runescape to play tomorrow

[vast quarry]

Others are also 4/5 and stuck on hating anime

It’s a fact

[dire knot]

32 sensory deaths logged in disc holy fuck i suck

im getting this shit tomorrow

[umbral cradle]

32 isnt that many btw, dont feel bad

[dire knot]

well i rage sent 22 of the irons

[devout coyote]

think i might be 31 deep atm

[dire knot]

i did the same shit with awakened levi and regretted it

[umbral cradle]

how close have u gotten

honestly i think it might be harder post-update now

because p3 has more hp than before, relatively

[devout coyote]

the only one comparable was like 30 glyphic deaths til i 1nd with rcb cheese....

[dire knot]

360hp once, but that was a fluke, my average is like 700

im dogshit after orbs, really struggling to find that tick that he will melee when fireballs are coming down

im using that visual metronome thingy from the joewatermelon video im just an idiot

[quiet flicker]

That is actually a take i didnt think of lol

True

Has anyone cleared oathplate acq yet btw

Last i looked i think jraze was down 10b on attempts

[dire knot]

i think he posted a video earlier

[dire knot]

https://youtu.be/m9ha0yxGy-M?si=SNh_-ZvJKL7rGwp2

[quiet flicker]

Oh shit

Legend

[dire knot]

never seen anyone else use that interface style

or whatever the plug-in is called i forgetti

[quiet flicker]

I lowkey love that theyve been releasing content where sgs is used lately

Only reason i went for mine was colo

And it came handy at yama too

[quaint stratus]

I actually got fisted doing cheese glyphic but tbh it’s kinda fun

[quiet flicker]

Lmao bro the endinjg

[quaint stratus]

The 10 hour p3 def improved my skill level

[quiet flicker]

Bro said i dont have the gear req to rejoin obliv while doing all that

[quaint stratus]

The last phase rly emphasizes when u have good windows to eat without throwing

[quaint stratus]

Prolly had to liquid is bank for contracts

[quiet flicker]

😭

Real

[quaint stratus]

You know I remember when people were like “oh these oathplate contracts will be solved in a weekend and just crash the value of the armor”

And while ya they will prolly get more solved , I think maybe a handful of people will get semi consistent clears

Turbo rewarding the elites etc

Doesn’t sound too bad

[quiet flicker]

Yep that shit looks insane

And rightfully so

Goodluck to any iron who gets them

[quaint stratus]

I know it’s pretty bad for something to have 100% drop rate at bis armor

But if it’s that cbt, that’s making the best of a bad scenario ig

[quiet flicker]

Im sure if at one point for some reason the success rate gets high enough for jagex to be like hey we fucked up

Theyll adress it

Just like they wanna change fang rarity now and shit

For now it looks super fine where its at tho

[fast reef]

It's like intended selling services

[quaint stratus]

I mean trying to play around services will never go well

[dire knot]

my brain can’t process any of that enrage. some people are just cracked

clicks are so clean too, not like some people’s vods where you can see the clear panic

[quaint stratus]

https://x.com/jagexnox/status/1929182577849446651?s=46&t=qByFazX6SWi6XycX7fQIBQ

Mod Nox (@JagexNox)

For anyone curious on my thoughts, in terms of enjoyment: Glyphic/Bloodied > Divine > Breath > Cloud. 3t p3 Glyphic was fun, Bloodied might be a lil too easy after changes but also really fun. Cloud can go away.

X · Jun 1, 2025, 2:25 PM

[heady atlas]

this is sick ty for post

Tough to find good mobile creators

[surreal rock]

People will buy services for everything thats hard, so it seems pointless to design around that

[tired ivy]

People will buy services for literally everything

[smoky beacon]

Did anyone at jagex say anything about the aether rune requirement to make radiant oathplate? 30k for the full set seems quite steep for irons

[tired ivy]

Idk man I got 30k and 0 armour

[quiet flicker]

Would be cool to see the jmod clears after its been out for a while

For challenges like blorva and oath

I wonder if they come up with tech like players do or just wing it

[faint lily]

Supposedly gnomonkey solved oathplate acquisition contract

[quiet flicker]

Is the horn same as oathplate?

Damn

[umbral cradle]

that is some epic bait

[faint lily]

Ignore the stupid mercher talk. Hate X links so got the screenshot from a reddit post

[wintry moth]

ah

[dire knot]

chasm of fire full of dark demonbane afkers

at least im not alone in my struggles 😂

[misty marlin]

I pb'd this morning with Kirby method, hoping to finish it this afternoon

I'm getting better, it's hard but in a good way

[dire knot]

how low you got him

guess ill send my contracts at lunch, homies busy on his main that i was using to practice on

[cursive basalt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYGGzzPschI

he did this one the other day

[misty marlin]

500ish, but I lived for a long time. I'm improving though, which is good cause I'm potting on main first and iron second

[cursive basalt]

so i assume it'll be something like this but for the gear one

[sudden ocean]

patiently waiting for the no scobo sensory method

bloody blokes probably next for me

[quiet flicker]

stop spreading misinformation and split me the legs u owe me alread

[wintry moth]

learning this boss kind of slow lol

[sudden ocean]

im prob just gonna be hopping between araxxor/slayer and contract yama for a while depending what the vibe is

[wintry moth]

does this pattern always work for p3?

excluding the flame wall stuff

[quiet flicker]

what the hell is that

😭

[wintry moth]

the screenshots?

[quiet flicker]

yes

[wintry moth]

eh its attempt to quickly convey a walking pattern

every time i bail on donofly i just get smoked

[winter seal]

if u mean the p3 flameballs that drop then its orientation is different based on if you're host or not

[wintry moth]

WHAT

bruh

[wraith summit]

it's also random 50/50 whether it starts vertical or horizontal

[quiet flicker]

yes

[wintry moth]

😐

[quiet flicker]

u need to run to another itle

if ur not hosting

[wintry moth]

is it simpler to jsut solo this for standardized setup at this point?

even if its less practice per hour

[quiet flicker]

theres tiles that work

as host or nonhost

[wintry moth]

for mage?

[quiet flicker]

its nonstandarized

i mean standardizzed*

i have no idea about magel ol

[radiant pendant]

Someone link this guy a guide pls lol

[quiet flicker]

stopped maging after 2nd kc

[wintry moth]

am working on donofly primarily

but im being asked to stop donoflying if i fall out of cycle as not to grief the other player

[quiet flicker]

im p sure it doesnt matter how u dodge when maging

[sudden ocean]

i pinned a duo method that involves a correction at the 3rd+ rotation for non host

if you're still learning it's prob just easier to ask if you can host

[wintry moth]

host means its my instance, ye?

just to be crystal clear

[quiet flicker]

ye

[wintry moth]

its not a matter of arbitrary labels

[sudden ocean]

ye

[wintry moth]

the mechanics literally differ based on who is instance owner

[quiet flicker]

on the 3rd set of fierreballs, if ur not hosting doing donofly

the hosts'fireballs will hit u

[sudden ocean]

i should probably modify the method to match gregfly tbh, i just don't know what the nonhost correction would be for that

[quiet flicker]

cause theyre not mirrored

[sudden ocean]

it's because the diagonals are different for each player

[quiet flicker]

yeep

it shouldnt affect u if ur maging im p sure

if ur used to donofly, the video has anew tiles in description that u need to hit on the 3rd rotation

how do people deal with it if both 3t?

[faint lily]

If you are 3ting you aren't donoflying? I'm confused what you are asking.

Or are you saying if you get an accidental 3t hit when donoflying? I would think you just ignore the speed up if so.

[wintry moth]

there are a lot of variables im getting knowledge gapped on here a bit

its honestly very stressful

looking forward to get past thios

[faint lily]

Just do regular donofly and don't worry about host/non host

[wintry moth]

the methods seem simple enough

[faint lily]

It's like 15 damage per kill no big deal

[winter seal]

think you've misunderstood, the non host has opposite orientated fireballs so they're actually getting hit by their own fireballs.
3t is always reacting to ur fireballs so it makes no difference since you only need to account for your own.

[faint lily]

When you get the method down you will see where you get hit after the 3rd cycle and can adjust which tile you run to

No need to stress about 15 damage when learning

[wintry moth]

do i just send solos at this point

i think ill struggle to find duos that are comfortable with me just dying

[split pagoda]

do u have purging staff?

[faint lily]

If you want to send solos efficiently meleeing p3 you gonna want to learn Greg surf/fly or nofly

Or just mage p3 after orbs put you out of donofly.

[wintry moth]

yup

damn

[split pagoda]

wanna duo

[wintry moth]

yea

[quiet flicker]

solos are a different ballgame

[split pagoda]

can pot in 5 min

[wintry moth]

okok

[quiet flicker]

dps is shit, u need to deal with 1 or 2 sets of jellies

and ur gonna have a bad time

get donofly down first in duos

[split pagoda]

pick a world u can host

[quiet flicker]

i see that makes sense

cause its reeactionary and not a static cycle

[wintry moth]

W351

so the simplest thing i can do while learning donofly is to insist on being the host?

[quiet flicker]

til u getit down

[wintry moth]

kk

[quiet flicker]

or be prepared to take a 15-20 dmg here and there

[split pagoda]

u prolly dont have horn right

[wintry moth]

nop

i have dwh

[split pagoda]

ok just ember spec it once at start

[wintry moth]

ok

is this donofly a bit too complicated for now? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Bka-GJE6OM

thats the top most pinned

i been using reckless lad's non host donofly pin

[split pagoda]

no its not

that method is very simple

[wintry moth]

noted

clearing my tiles and using that tileset then

[umbral cradle]

also take note of the solo/host only aspect

if u want to be a hyper gamer another option is just learning nofly

[wintry moth]

@split pagoda bit confused atm bcs i see this in youtube video

[umbral cradle]

what are you finding confusing?

in the commentary section of the video i explain the thought process as you're doing the cycle if that would help

[wintry moth]

it was for some ingame context

[split pagoda]

eu ping

[wintry moth]

in Greg's Donofly V2, does the pattern dramatically change if u dont get to the delay tile on time?

in example kill, its delay tile -> hit yama -> insta path J.1

when i didnt get to delay tile in time, i waited for Yama axe lift, and pathed J.2. but was instantly meleed

is the Farfalle shaped shadow attacked yama does, is its rotation dependent on host/non-host?

[faint lily]

Farfalle is definitely an S tier pasta shape

[brave bronze]

You can usually self correct if you know you're late by skipping an attack

[umbral cradle]

you would want to wait near the tile labeled "J.1", looking for the boss to do a certain animation, then attack

you'd have to figure out what works for you

basically you'd be skipping the attack on "start", and going to the next position

[umbral cradle]

ur doing the pattern wrong

[umbral cradle]

clicking to the "J.2" tile is the wrong move there, should be going down to the red "2" tile

can watch the video again for reference

[wintry moth]

oh

noted

fuck

[umbral cradle]

the labels are slightly shit, but it's pretty straightforward once you know what to do

they help at some parts, but are misleading in others

but i think it's overall better than having a clusterfuck of multiple unique tile markers

[wintry moth]

ok

[sudden ocean]

I was also wondering if the method is compatible with the wait on 2 and click when you see the snap trick

[wintry moth]

i keep forgetting to record attempts oof

[surreal rock]

not even an iron and asking for ezscape smh

[smoky beacon]

of course you replied that 🤣

[surreal rock]

mans trying to rally up the iron server for support 😛

[dire knot]

@misty marlin hows your progress? i just sent 7 contracts and im literally making no progress. lowest i got him was 500hp. this is fucking miserable

i start making progress and then ofc im out of contracts man, i cant help but be so pissed off for these mfers, particularly the PoE copycat dev, for implementing this bullshit again

[devout coyote]

im 50 sensories in think my closest was like 200hp or so

[plush shadow]

what strat u using?

[devout coyote]

been freestyling

[plush shadow]

hmm melee or mage?

[devout coyote]

stepbacks + ember specs so i can tank while waves are out and just focus those instead of stepbacks

melee

im done freestyling tbh

not making real progress

gonna full commit to doing joack

[quaint stratus]

ur gonna what to joack

[dire knot]

man i found p1/2 way harder meleeing tbh

[devout coyote]

meh its braindead with a metronome

[dire knot]

was using metronome maybe i didnt bgs enough

gotten very comfy moving back on attack tick for p1/2 with mage

feels like a snoozefest just to get to enrage every time now

[sudden ocean]

i think your partner got meleed there

hard to tell, but i don't think you mistimed that first hit

[wintry moth]

but i ran to 3 prematurely regardless it seems

[sudden ocean]

i figured you just got thrown off

[devout coyote]

ladlor got meleed bc he was late

idk if theres any truth to it btw but ive read in here the going south after killing the judge like you did often makes you spawn a tick late

anyway you could see he was moving 1t before you so you shouldnt have stalled before your first attack

[sudden ocean]

ah

[wintry moth]

seems i didnt wait for attack

on 1

[sudden ocean]

yeh the wait for animation start is so much cozier, i just dunno if it works with gregfly or whatever that fly is

[wintry moth]

i tried to make the setup more consistent again with waiting for axe tilt

this is monofly now

[plush shadow]

would just do wait on tile tech honestly incorperate minmaxing after

[sudden ocean]

i think the 5t attack is at a different step in gregfly

but i could be wrong

[plush shadow]

u should feel confident to not need mage gear in duo imo

[wintry moth]

im feeling frustration on the percieved lack of standardized method for yama

[wintry moth]

and also this confuses me, because how should i feel confident when i suck at the content still

these donofly, monofly, etc, are they like optimizations?

[plush shadow]

well way it worked out for me is i full leaned into learning melee

[wintry moth]

is "nofly" the precursor?

[plush shadow]

i didint even know how to doge metors since i never spawned them/did donofly after

only learned it through contracts how to mage yama

[devout coyote]

nofly came later

[wintry moth]

@radiant sky in particular encourages bailing on fly if u fuck up and just mage after

[plush shadow]

u can just both melee as well

[wintry moth]

afaik trying to re-enter risks griefing?

[devout coyote]

and utilizes the fireballs for 3t hits

[plush shadow]

in md

[devout coyote]

its a small optimization

[misty marlin]

had to take a road trip for work but about to start potting again. best thing to do is vod review and take it seriously, when you die, figure out what you died to, and what you could have done better/how you could have avoided that situation. then it's just down to execution

[devout coyote]

i just donofly nothing has meaningfully improved on it beyond nofly

the only difference in the methods is whether you wait or run an extra tile really

[split pagoda]

ya i lagged and delayed when i supposed to just instarun

o is that a diff kill

[plush shadow]

i swear wizzy had a vid of him doing md melee yama on release

i cant find it anymore but thats what i ended up doing b4 butterfly stuff/after if mess up

[wintry moth]

test

[dire knot]

yeah true i need to figure out how to screen capture with nvidia

tried using snipping tool and dropped to like 10 fps

[split pagoda]

for this clip we were 1t late, i lagged and delayed which was pretty unfortunate but i think the "wait for axe swing animation" strat works better if u stand 1 tile closer to the boss. i looked at the vid again and u would have to click on the same tick as he swings if u stand on tile 2 which is just too much to ask for

sry i gave u some bad info cuz thats what ppl do with donofly tiles but not monofly

[winter seal]

yeah mono tile is 1 tick further away

[plush shadow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLJ9mB-fORY this is melee yama p3 tech for no donofly

[devout coyote]

tanking melees was day 1 shit

[plush shadow]

but maging prob good to

[wintry moth]

do yall bother with trampling the judge of Yamas ?

[faint lily]

If you don't miss ticks you don't really get a chance to do the self damage at judges

[wintry moth]

ok

[devout coyote]

isnt it the opposite

[plush shadow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1347648508764754072/1373181198435614751/UV549RY.mp4?ex=683f3ae6&is=683de966&hm=6dfca9987858a30398f630ace53cbfa1c5e64de9bec0ae1eaede6318d4ef60fe& i still have this for monofly tiles on how to get into cycle easy way

[faint lily]

Doing mage hit on 3rd tile no missed ticks by the time my attack doesn't sync up with judge we already do 2 mages/2 melees and the judge dies on the 2nd melee

[devout coyote]

i dont think theres any reason to choose to miss a hit just because sometimes you have to

[plush shadow]

ppl struggle getting into cycle

think just getting general feel for meathod then minmaxing for the hit is a easier approach

[radiant sky]

if you're with another dono learner you can both go into north/south melee but if you're wanting donofly ppl to bring you then swapping to mage so you dont rag them is ideal

and either way you have to bail on donofly if you mess it up as a learner

trying to get back in cycle after a fuck up before you have decent experience doing the donofly is just gonna get you both killed

[sudden ocean]

donofly, monofly, gregfly etc. are consistent brain off cycles where you lose a little dps

nofly is taking advantage of the 3t mechanic from perfect dodges as much as possible but it requires the most skill

red eye jedi's method (jedi slide) is sort of in between in that it uses 3t and only two patterns depending on horizontal or vertical flame lines

[wintry moth]

if isolating DPS output and the mechanics they mitigate, are Donofly, Monofly and Gregfly functionally the same? @sudden ocean

[radiant sky]

as long as you take the third cycle player 2 fire bombs into account then ye they should be

[faint lily]

In duos yeah, but Greg fly let's you kill void flares and stay in cycle when soloing

[devout coyote]

theres extensions to mono and dono that let you do the same thing

[radiant sky]

the other methods also have strats for killing void flares im pretty sure but they're a lot more complicated

which is why greg got popular

[devout coyote]

i use dono + @digital jetty s solo tiles

was my fav since i didnt have to change my tiles at all

just added some extra for after the 5th cycle

[tired ivy]

Greg's is the same cycle over and over which is neato

But uh every fuckin time I join as non host I forget to swap tiles

[faint lily]

Indefinite is nice

[radiant sky]

the main issue with gregs cycle is that to enter with the raised hand method the same way as the others you end up running to narnia

and learners might struggle with that

and i also think entering with the raised hand method over trying to figure out if you're delayed or what row you're on is much smarter when ur learning

[faint lily]

Yeah Greg definitely took the stance of don't miss ticks at judge/for solos.

Maybe they'll fix judge tele issue eventually.

[plush shadow]

i havint seen much solos but in duos i feel like killing voidfalres is extreme exception to learn

[radiant sky]

the main reason to learn it is so you're not out of luck if ur duo dies

[plush shadow]

i think itd help to learn how to avoid metor as nonhost but dps of vf exploding seems overkill (in duos)

[devout coyote]

dont call it meteor when he has an actual meteor attack

youre referring to fireballs/shadow crash/hourglass yes?

[plush shadow]

shadow crash p3 when jellys spawn for non host specifically

[lone storm]

Does ranged glyphic attentuation still work?

[devout coyote]

did yesterday, afaik nothings changed

[wintry moth]

is there a canonical source for donofly?

Is this the Monofly origin?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_71HmJ8a1nw

[faint lily]

Donofly was the first I believe

[wintry moth]

yeye but i need to do some book-keeping on the individual methods i think

[faint lily]

What bookkeeping do you have to do?

[split pagoda]

that is the monofly

[civic epoch]

ladlor mate just do gregfly and click boss

it aint that deep

[wintry moth]

im preparing a document to aggregate all info a bit

[civic epoch]

[devout coyote]

https://youtu.be/fIQ9wN-Jcfk?si=81CSW5uNlkgiKmh-

[cobalt jungle]

Does this work? Or can anyone tell me what version this works with?

[wintry moth]

i've had some pain points on being knowledge checked a bit, so looking to gather all info

[devout coyote]

this is the original donofly vid

note that the tiles in desc are slightly dif than the vid but it functions the same

[faint lily]

Yeah that's the first one I remember popping up

[devout coyote]

namely 3 gets moved over one east

and 4 is removed

[atomic surge]

They are all cross compatible

[azure laurel]

What guide is reccomended to start learning fly shit? Is it greg stuff?

[atomic surge]

So it doesn't matter

[sudden ocean]

the differences between fly methods can be as small as "this tile was moved here so you don't have to afk one tick"

[split pagoda]

it's a pick ur poison kind of thing really, just need to know how to enter cycle and ur good

[faint lily]

Lol I'm on really old tiles, I still have 3 and 4, but does the same shit.

[devout coyote]

ya

[faint lily]

Just pick a fly method and learn it.

[devout coyote]

the only thing the updated tiles did was remove an extra click by letting you click from 3 straight to 4.1

[faint lily]

If you want to do more solos would recommend learning Greg

Easiest option

[wintry moth]

are all methods equally suspectible to the fuckery that is host and non-host?

[sudden ocean]

yes afaik

[wintry moth]

and the uneven exit from judges?

[split pagoda]

ye

[faint lily]

Yeah

[sudden ocean]

so there is a tech for the uneven judges thing

[devout coyote]

in the desc of the dono vid theres an optional tile u add for player 2

[sudden ocean]

look at my pinned vid and see what my duo partner does

[devout coyote]

to dodge the player 2 fireballs

[split pagoda]

the hourglass patterns coming from different orientations is significant enough that u have to run different patterns

[sudden ocean]

he goes to 2 and waits for yama to snap, then clicks him from there

or rather, start moving his hand to snap

but you then have to skip an attack in the cycle

when i get home i wanna experiment and see if that tech is compatible with gregfly

[faint lily]

I believe it is but the tile to do that for gregfly 2 is very far away

[wintry moth]

Host pattern is identical in solos and duos?

[cobalt jungle]

I'd love to know as well I'm very animation based

[wintry moth]

interchangeable?

[split pagoda]

ladlor was startin off with gregfly but the 1st attack happens on j1 which is p far away, wasn't sure how to direct him if he was too late to do the first hit with me

[sudden ocean]

the only thing that would make a fly method different for solo is accounting for void flare spawns

but otherwise, ye its the same

i think

[split pagoda]

then i kinda trolled him

[wintry moth]

what is the name coined for the big farfalle attack?

[devout coyote]

the ca refers to it as shadow crash

[faint lily]

Because you have to run all the way to J.1 instead of 2

[split pagoda]

just do ur hit on the north and hit from 2 again imo

[wintry moth]

the timing of the boulder attacks are also not the same in host and non-host?

[faint lily]

Timing is the same

Ie they come at the same time

But it doesn't matter because they are specific to the person

[split pagoda]

i mean does it matter? u just follow the method and it dodges them

[wintry moth]

i see, so the main concern with not doing identical pattern as host and non-host is because of the shadow crash?

[split pagoda]

the issue is the orientation of the pattern is different so u cannot do the same movement or u run into a tile that is ragged

for nonhost u have to be all the way sw cuz every other tile is covered

this would not happen to u if u were soloing or the host

[wintry moth]

Donofly, Monofly, Gregfly are all designed for host inherently?

[faint lily]

I feel like this is being overcomplicated. Click boss, click tile.

When you learn a method/methods, go back and compile what you want.

[wintry moth]

and require modifications

[wintry moth]

i agree ish

[split pagoda]

well dono was like a day 1 method lol it stands to reason there are imperfections

mono and greg were all designed with solo in mind tahts why they have jelly tiles

[wintry moth]

Yesterday and today on my part have been plagued by some misconceptions, so im just consolidating all i know

[devout coyote]

the 2nd player just needs to go to a dif tile for the hit from the west on the 3rd and 4th cycle

thats it

i wouldnt say the methods as such are designed for host

and if u dont you tank like a 20

and nothing else happens

[wintry moth]

in @sudden ocean example, is this discrepancy with initial attack just that his duo uses a more visual setup? its not any host/non-host fuckery?

[devout coyote]

the start has nothing to do with who is host

[wintry moth]

got it

in those tile sets, 5a and 5b is the ONLY differencemaker?

[split pagoda]

his partner opted to brain off even tho they were actionable the same tick

[devout coyote]

sounds right to me

[split pagoda]

he could have run completely in sync with reckless

[wintry moth]

Use 5a for the first two rotations then use 5b thereafter. Host can just always use 5a

ah

ok

i want to brain off and just use these then

looks like its donofly

with non-host augmentation included

[devout coyote]

thats not donofly

[wintry moth]

oh is it mono?

title says donofly

[devout coyote]

looks like it

[wintry moth]

but source is monoatomix

[tired ivy]

They're the same shit

The difference is very minor

[quiet flicker]

dono fly is like the one where u stall a tick

[wintry moth]

[quiet flicker]

but ye

the namings are stupid

[wintry moth]

ok

[tired ivy]

It's basically do you afk a tick or walk 1 tile further

[wintry moth]

alright ye this is pointless ish

[quiet flicker]

99% of the methods are compatiable

with each other

so it doeesnt matter

choose whichever seems more comfy for u

u wont grief others doing a diff method

except maybe confuse them but eh thats skill issue ig

[split pagoda]

ya u could always entity hide if u truly hate it

ive run mono with dono partners and never had an issue

[quiet flicker]

ye same

[wintry moth]

well ok

now im a little self-conscious about writing all of this because well tbf it feels a little pointless

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[split pagoda]

u just need more practice w/ a partner who is consistent

unfortunately i am not consistent and will blame ping for my shortcomings :]

[sudden ocean]

bearcat uses different tiles than i do but that's a good example of how what you do doesn't rag your partner or vice versa

with my tiles (and with pmuch every fly method i think) you do the same action whether host or guest for the first two rotations, and host can keep doing it forever, but guest needs to do a variation on 3rd rotation+

whether you do the skip an attack to wait for his attack animation is totally up to you but i highly recommend it for learning

and host methods work for solos up until void flares are summoned

duos do not typically have to worry about killing void flares

[wintry moth]

Regarding falling out of the cycle, are there things that make it immediately "non trivial" to re-enter?

simplest scenario i can imagine is someone is flying, so just sync with them

but if they also fuck it, what are the tells for getting back in

[faint lily]

Yeah I learned donofly when my duo was doing the same method

So if I fell out I could do a quick purging spec and hop back in. Made the learning process quicker.

[surreal rock]

It's mostly just syncing up

Tile 3 is pretty easy imo

[ruby stump]

I heard from gnome that mixed hide might be bis for the oathplate contract

Along with moons

[surreal rock]

Avg propaganda

[ruby stump]

Broski gonna drop the most lukewarm video im feeling it

[surreal rock]

Who knows though

[radiant sky]

i think some ppl had a method to enter dono using the bombs falling but i didnt bother learning it

[surreal rock]

I just sync up with partner or abandon and mage

[ruby stump]

I mean there has to be smth to it

Given that jagex made the contracts

[quiet flicker]

dude thats what i was missing

thank you i just cleared it

[ruby stump]

Np bro, ill drop u my paypal

[radiant sky]

i still think you should give up on reentering dono if you fuck it up

[surreal rock]

Ye usually I do

[radiant sky]

vast majority of learners ive played with who try that shit just die or spawn 10 adds

[ruby stump]

I just flinch the boss if i get out of dono

[surreal rock]

Except if I fuck up start and am one tick late, then I just gain a tick

[ruby stump]

Altho im doing solos so the only person im griefing is my self atm

[radiant sky]

i think rejoining is good when you know exactly what you have to do but mage really isnt that much worse

[sudden ocean]

resyncing is hard cause you can't just like jump in from the start tile on any attack

it's a 21 tick cycle and you have to be in the right place at the right time

[wintry moth]

fk i need more yama gamers to leech some learnings

idk how to strategically ask in W325

[sudden ocean]

i can pot for a lil bit im still 0/4 and in the market for more pieces of paper

[wintry moth]

nvm found a gamer thats gonna learn with me

[sudden ocean]

o pog

[surreal rock]

I just need one more shard drop any I'm done 🙂

[radiant sky]

gzz

[wintry moth]

where did i fall out of cycle here+

[faint lily]

You paused on 1 for a tick

0:15

[wicked comet]

at the start i think :p

[wintry moth]

by not hitting em?

so my teammate was too fast?

[devout coyote]

he didnt pause on 1 his partner left early

[faint lily]

Looks like your attack cool down wasn't even up when you were on 1

[devout coyote]

yeah it isnt

thats the method

[sudden ocean]

waited a tick too long at the start but i think regained that tick right away by skipping the hit

but then when you clicked from 2 again (at 0:18) you just didn't do the hit

you didn't hit from 2 either time and so i think ended up too early

[faint lily]

I'm not familiar with these tiles. Was he supposed to wait for the attack on 1?

[devout coyote]

his partner left 1 early and was thus shifted 1t ahead in cycle so he got meleed coming back from 3, and ladlor not attacking from 2 made him get to 3 1t early and also get meleed

[wicked comet]

ya

[faint lily]

That's kinda funky

[wicked comet]

monofly or whatever it is called

[wintry moth]

hmmmm

oh mother fucker

[faint lily]

Attacking too late consistently

At start

[wintry moth]

oh

[sudden ocean]

yea you were still a tick late there

it's as soon as he starts moving his hand

[wintry moth]

ok i been reacting to the head of the axe

[devout coyote]

if you feel more comfortable attacking on that late tick you could use dono tiles

because youre 1t closer

[wintry moth]

i will kms if i need to swap tiles again

[faint lily]

Lmao. Also might help you to mark the tile of Yama

[wintry moth]

ok im gonna try new visual cue

when his hand lets go of axe

[faint lily]

That would be the better visual cue for when you are 2 ticks away starting

1 tick away (dono) is when you click later like you are.

My issue with Dono was clicking too early cause I thought it was whenever he moved.

But you'll get used to whichever one you need to do soon enough

[sudden ocean]

another scuffed thing to know is that for the shadow crash (hourglass/farfalle) attack, the animation starts when he starts to lift his hand, but for mage/range attacks it's about a tick before that -- it's when the fire or shadow appears on your character

fucked me up a lot when i tried to resync into donofly by watching for his hand

[wintry moth]

woo

bit of a success

[dire knot]

is there a plugin that will show scobo freeze time

just making sure if theres anything i could do to keep track without having to count 3/4 purging hits

[split pagoda]

if u wanna fit in extra actions like summoning a thrall, u have the most time to do so while running to 3

[jaunty sapphire]

Not that I know of but I always stuck with 3 purging hits

Never risked going for a 4th

Some leeway incase you lose ticks dodging etc

[wintry moth]

lmk if anyone wants a melee thrall

[radiant sky]

didnt swap to mage at 17 seconds ^^

ye ur moving on the correct tick for the normal dono entry but ur doing some weird version where u start on 2 instead of in attack range

it works fine tho if reacting instantly to the animation starting is working for you

[sudden ocean]

i find that easier and more intuitive since with most other pvm you're similarly reacting to the change from an idle animation to an attack animation

[radiant sky]

ye its gonna be preference

i find the hand movement similar to verzik legs in p1 so got used to it quickly

reacting to the hand/verzik legs being in a specific position

[sudden ocean]

maybe if you're a tick fixing nerd you could start from attack range with a scythe hit

but then like

[wintry moth]

is this worth noting or neh

[sudden ocean]

sweating with a scythe and not just doing the insta start

[sudden ocean]

for solo i assume?

[faint lily]

It's worth it

[radiant sky]

i dunno if im fucking something up but this is what i got for scy vs ember expected hit ( 28.8 scy vs 27 ember)

[sudden ocean]

i have had issues with running out of glyphs when doing that

[radiant sky]

i dunno how anyone can justify scy for dono or nofly ^^

[faint lily]

More DPS you spend less time killing flares and more time killing boss

You should always glyph skip in duos

[civic epoch]

u only run out of glyphs if u do it after the first one no?

[misty marlin]

yes its extremely good

in duos you should never run out

[civic epoch]

atleast that was my experience

[sudden ocean]

i assumed solos because in duos i would just have one person step on each color

[civic epoch]

yeah im talking about solos

ive only ran out of glyphs if jellies was 2nd special