#Yama - May 14
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Welcome to the new endgame, comrade.
As an afk tile
500 more later still no heavy ammo rota
there has to be some way to manipulate teh rota or something
just whack with crossbow for an hour, you'll get them even if it's at half rate
yeah I just think its weird
might want to check your math on that
112.5 is 1/4 way
Any amount is 1/4th the way to somewhere 
does anyone know off the top of their heads the minimum magic damage percent needed to 1 hit orbs in contracts?
id rather not waste contracts figuring that out for myself if someone here knows that info
believe its most relevant for bloodied blows but not 100% on that
its dependent on contract
having higher prayer bonus on the crush/prayer one makes you hit higher'
sub 16hp on the bloodied blows makes you 1hit them
sensory clouding requires a certain accuracy check to be met to gurantee max hit
Sub 16 hp on bloodied blows makes you 1hit them with what though? Max mage? I’m missing ward and ring and am tryna figure out if I gotta get one of those to be able to 1 hit orbs without bringing my hp into super chance range
I think just bracelet/occult/staff is good but
iirc bloodied blows is one you should mage entirely
at least from what i've seen
@sudden ocean huh is right
wizzy was hitting max hit with max mage + trident
I had normal ward + accursed and it was sometimes hitting max, but then with shadow barrage it would gurantee max each time
im sure that's in the wording of the contract somewhere
Yea I plan to mage that one. I just wanna make sure I can 1 hit orbs during enrage
i wasnt in max
i was in turbodogshit actually
So I don’t need ring & ward for any of the contracts to be able to 1 hit the orbs ?
how the hell were u hitting the check then
toxic trident?
ye
yeah idk
heart
I had 156 mage accuracy
this but with accursed sceptre
so somwhere between 6 accuracy difference is the sweet spot
Yall are attacking orbs with charged staff for bloodied blows instead of purging and still 1 hitting?
i did that for forfeit
then was testing barrage for sensory
which means you'll want to do trident
I’m not following sorry. Are you saying trident for the ones where there is no demonbane weakness? Why not sang? And also I’m curious specifically about bloodied blows if I’ll still be able to 1 hit enrage orbs at 14 hp missing ward and ring
yes, untirely unrelated to your question though
yea cool ty for clarifying for me!
how long do glyphs last once u step on them for in reg yama?
Raw wikisync data from the last 2 days on contract drops
wait so jagex stealth doubled the rates yesterday or what
and thats not taking into account last hits, but only demons inside the chasm of fire right
Yeah they can't see what sigil the demon had or how the player killed it
Its just the raw data, so it could be skewed by a lot of factors
like a bot farm only using melee
I fear theyre just going to nerf the others down to their level lol
in terms of contracts/hr
no shot
they're not making contracts worse in any way at this point
best thing they could do to contracts right now i smake them a 1/1 lmao
The latest cope is that its meant to be a practice contract for the soulflame/oathplate
also still sitting on just 1 divine contract
Ye true but eh
looks like a skill issue to me
just choose to get better rotations
Should I just stick with 1KC trips without SGS of bloodfury?
neither of those are necessary for longer trips
for any1 that was learning 3t/nofly using my explanation video, I learned that I was showcasing a pretty crappy horizontal pattern
I made this unlisted video and linked it in the description of the old video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G02Z42J5heY
This adjustment is:
- More tick efficient
- Matches vertical pattern for another tick (step right and click to attack), effectively giving you more time to react to which orientation you got
- No more 2 consecutive waiting ticks, just 1 waiting tick
Reason #2 and #3 arguably make it easier to learn too

do you happen to know which of the 3 kirby cycles you auto enter if you get to boss in 2t, 3t and 5t?
from when you can move

never hurts to ask 
I might end up on runewatch, but I got screenshots just in case
That kill was rough too, my anti ran out at the beginning of it, I stayed cause I had tons of good, so spent the ending of my judges chugging wild pies and pizzas.
Yeah just unlucky most likely. Still wild I'm like 12hrs dry or the range sigil
why are you posting that on here like its a flex
not funny.
give me my split
tbh i dont even really know what kirby is talking about with that
its in ffa world dude.
i do the exact same thing for horizontal/vertical pattern every time
Happy to split if we had agreed upon before, but we did not. its like 416 tob
Are you reacting to fireballs or do you know they are coming in the next tick or 2?
not sure why you are still pretending like you dont need to split
quite the performance in public for everyone to see
Do you have screenshot of agreeing to split before starting a duo with an Ironman?
wonder if this clown bullies everyone into splitting unless he gets a drop
did this guy change name to troll or
o ya maybe his wdr name is diff
yeah if split hasnt been agreed upon and they cant provide proof you aint getting on rw
dw
specially on ffa world

it's a reaction but you can anticipate it/know its happening
- same overall attack cycle pattern every time
- he raises his arm to snap, but there's no mage/range swirl sound/animation around your character
Idk but he has different name on wdr
although #2 isn't a fool proof rule because sometimes he does auto + hourglass simultaneously
you can react tho
you click to the right the moment it appears in the air
(first action of many in the horizontal/vertical pattern that I do)
Interesting. idk if troll or not. But kinda crazy he finds the screenshot on an iron discord that quick if not. Was on a main account
posted here for reassurance in case someone knew something I didn't. I assumed ffa worlds, would be crazy to pick up a random expecting them to split a 170m item.
I'm sure there are irons on these worlds without even the ability to split that much
@umbral cradle excellent no fly guide brother, short, to the point, well said
ty, hope it helped (make sure to check out the adjustment to horizontal pattern in unlisted vid linked in description) 
should have shown that one instead of the crappy one i showed in initial vid

Especially if you’re running with an Ironman. Their fault for not clarifying before hand
shoulda learned solo before 10kc goddam
Get this man on rune watch immediately
Am I the next Wizzy?
Post 73 notarized screenshots of you all swearing under oath that you are doing an ffa trip
Or you're getting a life sentence
You're correct, but if you duo with the wrong vennie they will try to extort you and rune watch will side with them 100%
But I'd say fuck em
Ignore it
You will never win if you give in to extortion
Yeah no he's not getting a dime.
Gave him the benefit of the doubt that the yamaers aren't used to 416 rules, but it's probably just extortion. I doubt he would have offered a split to me if he got something.
He wouldn't have
whos the next scammer
No I don't think there's a risk of any We Do Yama mods assessing your actions
bkraze?
We do yama lmaooo
yeah I firmly believe in "ffa unless specified otherwise with proof"
anything else is shooting yourself in the foot
What's the current gold standard for melee enrage? Currently doing monofly -> mage.
Depends on desired effort level/scaling.
this is for solos
Solos id say most chill/still great DPS is Greg surf/fly
Let's you do melee the whole time while dealing with void flares and staying in cycle
How much timesave is nofly in solos?
Especially when it’s with random pick ups
gregsurf was it, thanks for the reminder. Just need to not click bad.
In your opinion is solo or duo better to do? I’m sure there is pros and cons to both, but generally speaking
duo is better for pet
both are pretty good for uniques
solos are good if u dont like forming teams
from my experience people burnt out fast from yama
so its nice to know solos cus ppl do a couple kc and leave
so u can just ddo a cpl kills while waiting for neew teammate
My solo times are pretty much exactly twice the time of duo times, but the duos use way less supplies and are more chill. So as long as I am ~50/50 with partner duos will be faster for uniques.
yeah the only con is the supply usage
mostly just hardfood tbh
but u can bring sgs to save alot of it
but meh i had so much food stocked up from not doing supply heavy content that i just sent it with maul alt + b claws
Fire update, this is gonna help a lot. Might use that special wave skip a fair bit tbh, should save a tick in multiple situations, particularly double flamewall
Duos are technically slightly better for oathplate shard completion cause of lockboxes not scaling, + some better alchs but it's like a couple hour difference. So not that massive. Like Greg said if you care about pet I'd only do duos.
I am trying to do mostly duos/hopping on to FFA worlds if my duos aren't on. If it takes more than 20-30 seconds to find a duo I'll just pot solo.
Duos with both people meleeing the whole fight are just so chill, definitely my preference.
Finished my armor set, I have an extra legs and oath contract
Any harm In dropping that 200m to the main?
If you don't care about deaths coffer/holding dupes I don't see why not.
is 416 the yama world for potting with randoms?
yeah
You get out what you put it in so think of any partner as just a body to make duo possible
their performance is kind of irrelevant
I try to look for other meleers.
i hopped to "yama worlds" a couple of days ago and nobody was lft there
was i just unlucky or on at a bad time
How long u gonna be on for? At the gym rn.
You've gotta hop to the one that's most active. If you are on during us east morning, I usually have to go UK to find a partner
im not lft atm i have to do clan comp, this was for when i was looking previously
also i love that the venny followed you in here trying to scam ur split lol
now all thats missing is for him to post a screenshot where u agreed to split
Might take him a couple more hours to learn Photoshop
He at least knew how to donofly, was a good duo partner until the extortion attempt
at least im getting some of what you owe me back from the free rent.
he did potentially lose out on 80m or whatever it is if he genuinely thought it was split
which wouldnt feel good
Honestly if I was doing a boss with an iron that isn’t a raid would personally assume ffa
Regardless of iron or not. Bigger thing is we formed the team on an official Yama world and did not discuss splitting beforehand, but yeah I agree.
it prob depends on where u meet them
in clan i always assume split
here i would always ask
and in a random world id always assume ffa
Yeah, sometimes I run into clanmates on the Yama worlds. I'll always ask them if they want to split or ffa.
Yeah that’s fair
Idk only 80m but if it’s a venny that’s like a months rent and groceries
what's the deal with your landlord?
yeah this isn't an ironman issue
assuming random strangers on the internet will split with you by default is crazy
I've already reported you to runewatch matt
It's over buddy
Maybe I could report him for RWT for that comment.
only split if im not getting the drop...
the bloodied blows contract is so lame just lost a run to gettin hit a 13 on 13 when it was 78 hp fml back to blk demons we go
perfect gameplay dying to an rng hit splat is great
is there a way to change the star color of a black demon without killing them, i just need blue
You can go upstairs and cannon lesser demons to change it quicker, but otherwise I don't think there's a way
But I think it's more worth the time just scything black demons on the bottom floor regardless of the glyph
They'll still drop bloodied blows contracts just half as commonly
What?
Where
That's hilarious
@atomic surge here onwards
Hola senor
That's not the dude lol, he's just a troll
If you would like help resolving this matter I reccomend reaching out to the Runewatch staff team, I believe it is runewatch.com. They will help you reach the justice you deserve.
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The wizzy experience

does anyone know stats for the crush weak contract?
wonderin if i shud bring 2 inq piece or just full sunfire
clipped from gnomonkey stream
when I went in with full sunfire it drained prayer like mad
just use inq/torva
ty
I didn't test but I think I also heard you can drain contract defense too
so probably worth doing if so, maybe someone else can confirm
I wonder if you can soulflame horn on an alt, log out, and then start the contract the next tick
I think the boss takes less than 10 ticks to spawn, should barely be able to get the guaranteed maul
i dont think so
cus iremember on aregular kill
we didnt make it from throne horn
and ud need to horn before u start
no?
hes invurnable for aa while aswell
like 4 ticks
or something
yeah, you'd need to horn before starting
I'm thinking like you use the contract, get to the final confirmation textbox, and then horn -> logout -> start on 3 consecutive ticks
but it probably wouldn't quite last I agree
7t's a lil aggressive
it'd be close though
ye wont know til u try but i dont think u could
not sure why you are still pretending like you dont need to split
quite the performance in public for everyone to see
this is my new copypasta plz no steal
Yeah can drain it twice as the defence drain is floored at 145 rather than capped at 80
So double maul/dwh def the play
For the crush one
On my cudgel kc I realised all 3 mauls missed 😄
thanks pecan
doing gods work
cudgel is tough af i think im gonna have to lance on crush
dont have sra and scy on crush is dog
Best of luck soldier
dinhs is my 11/12 
I have one Inq piece, looks like scythe is still good if you drain to 145 def

I'll probably just bludgeon though, since that's what I'll use for end phase
this isint ironman question but is there anywhere to buy contracts atm for practicing?
prob w2
prepare to get merched
best thing to ask friends/randoms on not world 2 lol
Alts
I'm so glad they delayed update to Thursday
i like the red more than the white
red shouldve been the kit lowkey
barrows gloves

barrows gloves fire cape 
Good thing I got oath plate legs this morning so I can retire my Cheetos pants. Kinda sad I never got to wear tassets on my iron. Bandos + face guard is my favorite look
nothing says being an iron like buying a bunch of contracts on a main account so I don't have to afk demons for as long
gonna pot on Friday/the weekend
Is it just me or does my character look kind of like a dwarf in the equipment screen?
Set looks decent with nezzy helm though
everything looks good with faceguard
10/10 item
wait ye it looks like ur a dwarf
did they shift the character more down lol
i see it too
found an equipment screenshot from a few months ago, i think its normal
Interesting maybe it's just oath being skinnier
2t - Ultra God
3t - Regular
5t - God
i was pretty sure about the first 2 but nice to know all 3 for sure
them not making it so the chisel doesn't do all of them like how u clean herbs is so depressing...gotta do each one 
put chisel at the 2nd to last slot in inventory and you can spam click the last slot, or just chisel each while moving
ye i was doing that, but wanted to afk the big rocks for a bit lol
In case this helps you or anyone else, I am also pretty sure that regardless of what cycle one is forced to start in for the first bomb cycle, the second bomb cycle will always be ultra god and the 3rd cycle will always be regular cycle assuming no ticks lost and just camping emberlight. I am pretty sure this continues on being consistently predicable throughout the fight because every pattern ends up ultimately ending with an attack on the same tick relative to the bosses attack cycle (tick 19 being the first case of this occurring)
rly do think it could've come as like an "inactive" version and then kitting it fuels it with the essence of yama or somethin
😈
didnt kirby say you should never see ug if you dont lose ticks or something
other than the 2t start i assume
i believe he said that the god cycle is the rarest one to see if youre not losing ticks. @ 10:45
ah yeah that would make more sense
ngl the better i get at 3t the more of a waste of time it feels like lol
it really is not saving any actual time its just a for fun meme method
and for wr attempts i guess
but then ud have to do the scythe tick fix version
completely agree its a waste of time. the butterfly methods are way more chill & brain off. only learn if interested in completing contracts imo and even then i think its only useful for the crush based contract
it IS fun to learn tho 😄
maybe someone figures out a melee method for some more contracts copium
ye i did enjoy doing 3t
ill def continue using it since im alrdy past the point of losing ticks using it
or losing more ticks then i gain is what i meant
i do still lose ticks lol
life hack for learning 3t methods is going to ffa worlds and finding a mage to duo with 😄 then when i mess up cuz i am learning they just pk the orbs for me 😄
im surprised they're willing to do that lol
i just kill them myself
but it would be nice to have a mage servant as long as he brings a horn and it doesnt slow down kph too much
it's funny I have the opposite view, before I learned nofly I figured it was a waste of time since it's barely more DPS than gregsurf, but the more I practice 3t methods the more I like them, the fly methods fall apart if you ever make a mistake but getting back into nofly isn't too bad
Respect that he recognizes it, but I was like no way mustard ketchup defender + max cheese is tough
I respect the cheese cape, means he’s not a buyer atleast
can't believe they would put this in my good christian game
it all started when they added the thieving skill (my mom says im not allowed to train it)
Could’ve bought the firecape 😭
what kind of kill times are people getting with 3t nofly solo at yama?
wheres my split tho

see u tmrw 
hopefully they buff rates bc i cant even kit the amor lol
i think its more likely that they nerf the cost
probably good to wait till thurs before actually using kit
Hoping they also nerf the fights, or at the very least the acquisition ones 
man i hope they dont nerf the fights other than the rng splashing thing ive heard ppl talk about
the worm, pet and aether ones should be nerfed i guess they do seem ridiculous for the reward
no, rng splashing needs to stay
i did it the hard way, up hill both ways
thanks greg im a dumbass but thanks to you i finally got a my first solo with your nofly method
anyone here have id for voidflares?
Did you pick up the sigil 🧐
That's only a problem for spoons. I'm at 20k with 0 armor
we have changed the morse code to reflect the word contract that is all thank you
All fights are now duo
i read that morse code users would often misspell words on purpose to throw off decoders
i choose to believe this was intentional
Ww2 but in osrs?
god wars 2 confirmed

Anyone seen a completed acquisition contract solo? I’ve only seen Jraze and his duo partner crash the wormconomy. Curious what they’ll do with those tomorrow if there hasn’t been a solo clear yet 🤷♂️
holy retcon
As it stands it feels like only bots are gonna seriously grind the acquisition contracts
yea i just reequipped setup to show loadout
honestly its pretty good money if the prices hold at current value
2-4m/hr
I meant the oathplate/horn contracts.
get to the ather rune mines mr
only need 300k runes

i have all the aether runes
because I farmed a bunch before they nerfed aether rune drop rates
apparently soul talisman is an in game item l0l
unobtainable
if u try to craft without bind cast, it mentions soul talisman in chat
on wiki too
The soul talisman was an unobtainable item that would allow players to enter the Soul Altar. As the Soul Altar did not exist at the time of its release, it was not made available.
With the release of the Soul Altar in Arceuus on 7 January 2016 (which does not require a soul talisman) it was removed from the game, but was re-added - though remain...
[[9mm revolver]] also existed at one point
Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/9mm_revolver
Is there a way to hotkey the look south option?
Yeah camera points
I have WASD for NSEW
Thanks 👑
are different donofly methods compatible with each other in a duo
for example greg's method with the regular donofly
they're almost perfectly compatible, with the exception that non-host will have to dodge a single fireball attack occasionally depending on the methods
rather than explaining fully i'd just say that it's so minor that you'd probably be quicker just doing kills, and after 2/3 you'll notice where it happens
and it should be fairly easy to adjust
just move 2 tiles away in some direction
It is nice while learning to be on the same cycle as someone. Easier to see how you are messing up/to get back into cycle if you do mess up.
But not really relevant after your learning stage.
Plus if you know he attacks on a 7t cycle you can kinda tell if you pay attention
can use custom MES hotkeys
"Look South" under a hotkey for example
hold the key, click compass, and it will look south
just tank the 20 damage every third kill
I just use tile packs to switch between my Gregsurf host and gregsurf non-host tiles depending on whether I'm hosting or not, works fine to me
tomorrow: we've heard your feedback and are making contracts 3 times more common from demons
if they keep doing this eventually they'll just be a 100% droprate lol
would literally be a better system
"every dossier radiant drop gives 1 of every type"
Are they actually getting clears?
how many shards
how fast can u get the contracts
pretty fast from lesser demons
Tried Yama solo like 10 times earlier and got smoked lol
Seems like there’s so much going on at once
And I think he was hitting through prayer like 20s while solo
How are you guys finding partners
he only hits hard thru prayer if you're tanking melee last phase but you shouldnt be doing that
either do a fly method or mage camp for p3
Ahh yeah I’ve seen the fly methods
step on whatever glyph you have 2+ of, kill the other color, then immediately get ready for the next spec?
i guess it's easier if you have a purging
like every other version of this boss
Yeah here’s my setup
yeah flares are easy with purging
surely i will get second synapse before 2000 tds
zerker ring instead of ROS
Sending my RNG ur way
Lolol about the zerker ring
I’m 300kc in I know it’s not dry but damn
Got the pet no zerker ring
based on your other gear you are way past the stage where you should have grabbed a zerker
its one of the fastest but strongest upgrades to get
just go camp rex
its like wearing 4 pieces of bandos
yama drops are pretty reasonable to grind but they are still very low return on time investment for the bonuses they answer
The drip though
i wouldn’t rush yama until you’ve maxed out your basic upgrades
it is hot can’t deny that
So zerker ring is an easy one, I’d have 20% magic damage bonus with prayers up
Prob just a skill issue
void 👀
Proper mage gear, bring, occult, boots, tort, super cmbs seem more important for you atm
can post in yama lft fc
can just ask for donofly req etc
if ur struggling with solo definitely would duo its like 10x easier
this setup is criminal holy
holy fuck thats rough
just need 100 shards now and im out

kinda sad that greenlog is most likely not happening
yep 50k is v nice
surely they make radiant cheaper tmr
so u can actually use it for something else

surely 

If i'm getting melee'd on the first hit of donofly, does this mean i'm too early or too late? I'm using gnomonkeys tiles whith the delay tile at the start depending on where you spawn.
there's just no reason to make it cost 30k aether
too late i think, not sure you can hit too early
if doing the delay thing
ye the melee is tick 4 from when you can move i think
it means you're too late, or you spawned 1t late in a duo
tick 2 and 3 are both safe you just need to delay a tick on 1 or delay tile
if you're on 2
ok thanks. I think i figured it out, if my true tile paths to anywhere other than the delay tile when i click on it, i don't need to delay
sounds right
Anyone got bigbrain uses for horn besides yama?
Wait, is outside corp cave ironman only aswell? Or just when u enter
0 reduction, all zcb with horn corp method inc
Let me cook
make about 50 Nex alts, and have them all horn you so you can have permanent 100% accuracy soulreaper axe
Lmao
wait sad i didnt realize its only melee

ToA defence reduction seems solid
Wont u just bring maul/hammer now then?
Cus its guaranteed
Instead of bgs to toa
If rolling with a horn ofc
bros i'm not having a good time anymore
Keep ur head up king
never seen a duo drop, last drop i saw was at 491kc
How close are u to craft chest with shards
i can make it now, but i was waiting to see what i got
if i got helm i'd make chest, chest i'd make helm
i have the horn and oathplate acquisition contracts but i am not gamer enough to do those
Ye those are tough af
unless they nuke p3 tomorrow, i think p1 and p2 look very doable
has anyone done a horn/oathplate acq yet? i saw someone did the worms
Not that i know of
Jraze got to 13% on horn iirc
No clue if he cleared it
Stopped watching
oic
but yeah it feels like i'm more likely to just get another 420 shards than i am to get a drop at this point
Never know when luck turns around
I was abt to make my piece too til my friend invited me
Got what i needed luckily
None of my teammates have seen a drop when with me, and I've done probably 875~ duos which is wicked
But if ur 1/3 its tough to call lol
Unless u have t helm
Then chest is a nobrainer
I only have faceguard, no torva
i wouldn't ever make a piece until 2/3
you dont want to make a piece and then get that piece as a drop
for sure, i agree. actually tilted over how bad the rng has been here tho
outside is too, assuming that the ironman is high enough combat level
low lvl ironmen go to the main instance instead
does enrage have more hp now in awakend yama?
or is it balanced in a way where its mostly same hp on p3?
they didint reduce hp for most of the contracts (very wrong hp buff straight up gone from most contraacts my mistake)
so it seemed like enrage was now 49% hp instead of 32%
either way i think its a good change even if thats case
looking like +166 hp in p3 during Forfeit Breath but its
-625 hp overall. we take those lol
think im wrong someone telling me all contracts had hp buff removed execpt glyphic/blows
ye im blind
Defeat Yama in an average time of under 2:34 over your last four kills.
holy shit isnt that super fast?
Reads to me like you can tele out each kill
you can
Yes that is fast tho
So it's gonna be some sbs venge thrall shenanigan angle
for forfeit breath we can just purge staff the orbs now?
Maybe also need to learn a nofly method
This seems pretty rough
And if it's like araxxor, you can't tele out
I think
We gonna have to sbs venge
The difference between how the tasks are phrased at araxxor vs Yama suggests that you can tele out at Yama imo
Araxxor is like get x kills in y mins
Yama like kill in y min on average for x kills
I would be very surprised if it didn't count by instance
so now that demonbane is available on the contract versions, do we no longer need shadow?
Yea I could be wrong ill be interested to see either way
That time seems pretty darn tight if you can’t bank
I feel like you have to be able to bank, cause the alternative is bankstanding for 4 min in between kills to regen spec + spec pot
you can tele out
we got the previous 2 times right after banking
yup^
hard mode yama changes seem good but i don't see any changes to purging staff req or 30k aether rune cost
weeeeeee
one change for sure ive noticed is u can purging staff void flares now for forfiet of breath
instead of 3 sang hits u can do 2 purg staff
Would suck if they keep the aether cost, seems to serve no purpose other than inconveniencing irons and stopping them using a new upgrade
is there an easy way to farm forfeit breath contracts
do i just melee and then barrage or something
or can i autocast grasp
autocast grasp is fine
i feel like the spell would wear off no? or does it not matter
Autocast grasp with mark every 5 mins
Higher apm is max melee but with an anc top barrage and scythe 48s
Isn't making the speed task 4 kills in a row but not in the same instance just worse than one giga fast kill?
Like that's going to involve a similar amount of resetting.
But this time you are resetting 2/3 into the kill and not even getting kills along the way.
also are greater demons the play or should i kill black demons
is there even any indication that the bigger demons have higher drop rate
i just kill lessers for the champ scroll chance
that seems like pretty average kills ngl

not in my money hornless runs
I think any contract
so it doesn't auto complete even if you've finished radiant.... great
Average when the 3 emberlight specs all decide to all hit 🤝
what does "without being more than one tile away from the center of his shadow crash attack" mean?
You signed a contract with him the first kill, did you not read the dialogue smh
it's the meteors
?
No its the p3 meteor
wat lol
the hourglasses?
Always attacking with speedup
yes
those are red
oh ofc
why is that shadow lol
they do have shadows lol
When they land they spawn shadows
but yea poorly worded
I always pictured shadow as any of purple attacks
so help me understand if im wrong
what changes for divine severance?
I guess this autocompletes when you do another kill?
they had this same situation with fang kit i think had to wait a week or something to complete ca retroactively
or do another 500

well doing another kc is kinda 0 time
for other tasks
so yea just seems like a money kill
gonna have to do another kill for the ca's anyway.
just have ur teammate kill the void flare
true
you have 0 synapses?
can just swap it
i did that a lot on release
unless you're a scuffed acc with no shards
idr how many shards i have
so why are they so inconsistent with CAs?
not even the 1 yama kc CA auto completed
the 2:34 kc average for 4 kc sounds like you can easily passive that one in max eff, you just want to do bclaws instead of sgs 2 divine trips
Jmod comment also said that this was "just like araxxor"
When it indeed is not like it at all.
so if i'm reading this right an arclight takes 30 shards to fully charge? which means it should be the same for emberlight?
Gonna have to wait for me or my duo to get a horn to go for the GM speed time.
just like arraxor in the sense that if you do money kills you don't have to think about it
True, but they were responding to how the CAs auto completed/didn't.

yea
if you have dupe ancient shards theres not really a reason not to revert atm unless you want to hold off for speculative reasons
after i finish the rest of the cas
ok honestly i was a little disappointed that the araxxor speed time autocompleted, i wanted to try it out
nice if yama speed is different
although it looks free anyway
you'd have to intentionally center skip
but otherwise yeah probably
what is center skip?
is that just nofly
if so, then that qualifies under what I said of "max eff duos"
I assume it also means that in p2 you have to intentionally skip wave in the intersection
what is making you think this
Maybe interpreting shadow crash as the purple waves? That's what I was thinking so first also
people were saying earlier that shadow crash = hourglasses
what would that even mean
"one tile away from the center of his shadow crash attack"
as soon as it enters the arena, ur failing that
"do the boss with the highest dps strategy and take minimal damage" is both a good combat achievement and the definition of max eff
because ur not at the edge where it enters, so ur more than 1 tile away
Good point tbh
it also doesnt just hit once, it continuously hits
shadow crash is p3 hourglasses
You aren't dumb it's confusing naming to be fair.
See this is just a shitty name for it
yea cuz its literally red/fire
that CA reads: don't get hit by damage that isn't required to be hit by, and nofly p3 / mage p3 but always get tick speedups
Hourglass attacks would be much simpler/no one would confuse it
not purple/blue like the shadow-themed attacks
oh I guess the black clouds?
lol
when it explodes

is anyone here good at runescape math
in this setup with dwh on accurate I maxed a 90 dwh spec on yama in the glyphic attenuation contract
today
also i dont think we know the formula really
how does demonbane compare now for glyphic
i think they even suggested in the blog today that it's not even going to be linear
wiki calc says normal max is 78, I'm wondering if we can derive the formula from this
it has 666 res to all other styles
i checked shadow max mage and its like 10-20% accurate i believe
Am I really the only person who immediately understood what was meant by shadow crash?
Stg buncha boomers in here
i still dont get what it means
this is a shadow crash
No, I was going off of what makes sense
Although I think the wording is odd
The big thing with that ca is you can't donofly because you have to do perfect hourglass dodges
So it's a jedi slide or kirby air ride angle
you can mage though
which is jokes
ah true
Just mage ye
I did it with a solo melee kc this morning, wasn't too bad
ive heard metor/hour glass ive called it fireball
If shadows coming from something crashing didn't explain it, then the 1 tile away should have been the most obvious giveaway of all time
never seen anyone call it shadow crash
No but its a mechanic that gives you better dps
ig it makes sense
So they intended you to use it to perfect kills which makes sense in a perfection ca
the word shadow is just deceptive cause he has fire and shadow attacks and it looks more like a fire attack
it does have shadows tho
ya same
i think it makes sense but noone ever calls it that
No shit they're not going to name the attacks after the garbage the community comes up with
"oh no they didn't call it 'cum phase' in the akha CAs!"
Would have been a power move ngl
Never forget what they took from us. They did allude to the cum phase in a blog post though
Political correctness gone mad smh
Didn't they change the muspah cball drops from 666 because of Christians? I wonder how they feel about yama's stats for that contract
I meaaan
??? lol
He's literally a demon so idk
fucking religion man

Also no christian is going to be doing that contract fight anyways 
Should probably not engage with the content if you care that much
honestly if i were a christian i would think it's incredibly based that i'm fighting satan even in the video game
thank you jagex for giving me this opportunity to practice my faith
Doing God's work.
Idk I don't really understand the rules for that type of stuff
the rules are whatever you want them to be
So you can leave between kc for the speed task at yama, according to earlier conversation
Can you also tele out on slow kills and it won't reset the counter then?
yes, you can leave between kills and tele on the slow kills
idk lore honestly but wouldint they want to defeat the demon and obtain a purifying sigil from him?
wait nvm im ie
does anyone know what this means "Void Flares now apply special on-hit effects correctly."?
does that mean you can't tick eat them anymore?
I didn't know you could tick eat them in the first place
Maybe fire orbs are supposed to burn you like fire specs if you don't glyph
They do, it probably wasn't applying every time
actually unnplayable
is tick eating voidflares useful for any of the contracts?
to achieve this you have to be low hp. and be able to outeat the damage applied that will be your current hp.
if your 3 hp, the orb will register that it has to deal 3 hp, and heal the boss.
after 1 tick it will apply 3 damage onto you multiplied by the amount of voidorbs alive.
eg.
(food heal ⟩ current hp* number of orbs alive)
--------...
he heals pretty big

Surely enough shards to just craft the set at that point when breaking down the helmets?
bro>
gotta get on clog

Yeah still sucks
it might work, might not
why is it like that tho llol
no promises
i see..
Also I assume it has to be oathplate/horn/pet/radiant contract right?
Not worm catalyst shard
no clue
to me it reads "do any contract"
what would people suggest for the order to do oathplate contracts in
I'd like to go easiest to hardest
i can make a list for u
It's phrased weirdly if it's do any contract
forfeit, divine severance, glyphic attenuation (after learning nofly),
then arguably you could say sensory or bloodied blows for hardest
"advanced contract" vs just "contract"
interesting, I was doing glyphic first but I'll pot forfeit breath instead
we probably emberlight that one now too eh
Id assume camping purging is viable for all of them now besides the crush one if no shadow
Surely if no fly is good for glyphic it's good for forfeit, no?
slightly risker but it's also what I'm used to
did they remove demonbane on the crush one aswell?
Unless that's one with extra orbs
bloodied blows might not be that hard now with the nerfs
does anyone know what the chip is?
presumably half of what it used to be
If it's 50% less then the max is either 6 or 7
I know at super low HP people were reporting 14, and I saw a 13 on stream
Guthix rests all you need to stay under 15 now
does anyone have stat spy of the non-attenuation contract yamas?
My guess is that the style specific defenses are the same, and if you can reduce defence down to 145 (same as normal yama) then calcs for normal yama should work the same
for melee dps at least
mage would be impacted by magic level
hmm wait I forgot the shadow patterns in p3 change location, so flying is out and nofly gets harder
mage it is
After reading the new updates what % do u guys think the contracts got easier by? Like 20% ?
wait a second.... does the 66%+33% -> 75%+50% change and HP change in conjunction mean that sensory clouding is overall harder now?
Yeah lol
so hp isn't 3125 anymore for sensory clouding, it's 2500
but 50% of 2500 is 1250
so you have to deal with P3 which is by far the hardest part for 1250 hp instead of ~1030 hp
LOL
For sure harder but at least you get back there faster + more supplies
right but getting there with full supplies wasn't really an issue on that contract
okay so forfeit > severance > attenuation > bloodied > sensory then
yea honestly, I didn't even think bloodied was that hard when I did it pre nerf
altho to be fair I was letting myself get chanced on 11hp/12hp quite a few times
it's still pretty monkas though
because ur 1 shot hp the entire time
any reason to use ring of endurance over magus for forfeit breath, or is 20 stam per stam fine
and i think u have ur inequalities flipped
forfeit < severance < attenuation < bloodied < sensory
Entity hide your own hp bar to reduce stress
yea they're meant to be arrows
you very badly want to use ring of endurance
ur going to have a bad time without that
ok good shout
cloggers win again
Explorers ring + max cape left click run restore meta
molgoats pathing for p3 is insane
helped me do bloodied blows
are we able to coffer contracts now?
oh that's a good shout
you cannot
they are still disabled
damn
they really went soft on CAs not requiring all contracts for GM
idk if they're gonna have gm locked behind blorva they should have gm locked behind radplate too
I like it, it opens the door to keeping things that are harder than gm in the game
Not saying that current contracts are
i feel like they couldve required all radiant contracts if they werent so ass to get
After the buffs it's fine tbh
I wonder if they’ll allow it, got an oath plate contract
fair
bloodied blows now does 5% instead of 10% so he can hit what now thru prayer? it used to be 13?
i meant in the sense that i shouldnt have to hit greater demons for 20 hrs to get some solid attempts in
and it especially sucks if you have no main to practice on
was the cannon confirmed to give divine contracts
yes i got a couple with cannon
Yes
yea you can
ty kings
blog says the demons drop 2 ashes if youre killing them correctly but im maging on the melee sigil and its still dropping 2? does it drop 2 if you have any chance at all for a contract?
it was broken and they hotfixed it and broke it in a diff way
Oh lmao
same thing happening with the spec sigil as well
I don’t duo much, what do folks usually do these days if they spawn late for dono/gregfly? is there a way to prevent spawning late
you can try and make sure you kill judge at the same tick as your partner. if you know you spawned in late, don't do the first hit from the delay tile; stand 2t away and click yama the moment he starts raising his arm to snap to resync yourself with the cycle
if you do the hit from the delay tile and get meleed off the rip because you were delayed, do a 4t emberlight hit where you should do the 5t emberlight in the cycle in order to catch up the tick you were delayed
that's your options in descending order of quality. sync judge (avoid delay entirely) > holding first hit (avoids melee) > speed up cycle by 1t (at least keeps the cycle intact, but tanks the orb)
You also can spawn late and still get the first hit, if you are only 1 tick away from the delay tile. So the only time you have to delay is if you are both 2 ticks away and delayed.
You just need to recognize that fact and not delay.
it's based on judge overkill afaik
and also where your partner stands on the island/if they jump back or not
If you kill 1 tick behind yes
If its out of sync more idk
Don't use endurance
Use magus and vile vigor spam
With a bunch of restore
I had 9 restore 1 stam it was plenty
do you have a setup saved
9 restore 1 stam
Ward of arc /thrall with smoke runes
Anglers
Trident for flares but now you can just demon bane them
Sounds good, I'll give both setups a try and see
Gnomonkey said contracts are saved maybe redditors will hop on the 30k aether requirement hate.
still waiting for a good horn contract method
keep waiting that's insane
Glad I'm 3/3 so I can droptrade/coffer my oathplate acquisition contract without any regrets.
can you pot inside instance before u start boss for no pot ca
Surely you can't get a boss fail before the boss exists
yeah you can pot before you spawn it
+1 speed CAs
I think im just gonna pot regular money kills with my duo until we get 2 sub 2:30s b2b, then go put on lunars and try for the remaining 2.
can u not donofly it?
i never learnt nofly
i can deal with 2 flare spawns tho
idk hm there are
I think the issue with nofly on forfeit is that the shadow waves can be shifted to the right or left a few tiles randomly
unsure
frick
it's the same thing yeah, you just have to choose the column to dodge on correctly
I think @umbral cradle used it and probably knows the answer
suffering or ultor
fuck it imma try and get lucky on enrage
and hoe i dont get too many shifted columns
can still use nofly just go to the right column i guess
So they didn't make any changes to the horn/oathplate acquisitions?
Not sure but my understanding of the blog says the Hp changes and the phase transition changes should apply.
aint no way
isn't that one as hard as like oathplate anyway
well they removed the floor puddles
and presumably you can duo it
duoing alone might make it the easiest
someone needs to make melee methods for the contracts so i dont have to do mage bullshit
forfeit breath was not too bad
1/5, mage setup definitely easier than melee would have been with the random shifts in the waves
Now that Yama is weak to demonbane on contracts, does this mean orbs are weak as well? One hittable if half HP?
Good question I hope so, although I'm pretty sure I read some complaints about it so don't think so
They are weak to demonbane. Forfeit breath was free. I'm not sure which contract people are complaining about needing 36% magic damage for though
what's the tech for the speed? money kills and tele for spec each time and that's it?
divine severance requires it at least
orbs have 83 hp
sbs venge probably good
are black demons bugged i am getting 2x ashes no matter how i kill them
i believe you stack with duo partner and veng the red ball
can I get an honorary regm
not til 2/5!
I plan on doing regular arceuss money kills with my duo until we get two b2b sub 2:35s and then switching to lunars and resetting for the remaining 2.
So we don't waste too many kills to resets. I know we've gotten that time b2b multiple times before CA release.
huh
i thought u had a clear already
what in the jagex
None of my CAs were retroactive, not even KC lol
(opened every interface imaginable)
i thought it was just me xd
you should be venging the first 3 glyphs
it felt very consistent
the average max gear duo + venges should get the GM time in 4kc no teleing out of kills
any reason we're keeping shards on the account post oathplate?
oath plate boots
Peep the spreadsheet we got in the team chat


lets go glad my explanation helped
