#Yama - May 14

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atomic surge
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I like the greater 3 spot right by the elevator down

bleak moat
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Welcome to the new endgame, comrade.

atomic surge
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As an afk tile

forest lagoon
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500 more later still no heavy ammo rota

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there has to be some way to manipulate teh rota or something

misty marlin
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just whack with crossbow for an hour, you'll get them even if it's at half rate

forest lagoon
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yeah I just think its weird

fossil mountain
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1/4th the way there

runic obsidian
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might want to check your math on that

quartz glen
south burrow
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Any amount is 1/4th the way to somewhere bigbrain

digital jetty
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does anyone know off the top of their heads the minimum magic damage percent needed to 1 hit orbs in contracts?

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id rather not waste contracts figuring that out for myself if someone here knows that info

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believe its most relevant for bloodied blows but not 100% on that

vast quarry
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having higher prayer bonus on the crush/prayer one makes you hit higher'

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sub 16hp on the bloodied blows makes you 1hit them

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sensory clouding requires a certain accuracy check to be met to gurantee max hit

digital jetty
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Sub 16 hp on bloodied blows makes you 1hit them with what though? Max mage? I’m missing ward and ring and am tryna figure out if I gotta get one of those to be able to 1 hit orbs without bringing my hp into super chance range

vast quarry
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I think just bracelet/occult/staff is good but

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iirc bloodied blows is one you should mage entirely

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at least from what i've seen

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@sudden ocean huh is right

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wizzy was hitting max hit with max mage + trident

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I had normal ward + accursed and it was sometimes hitting max, but then with shadow barrage it would gurantee max each time

sudden ocean
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im sure that's in the wording of the contract somewhere

digital jetty
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Yea I plan to mage that one. I just wanna make sure I can 1 hit orbs during enrage

atomic surge
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i was in turbodogshit actually

digital jetty
vast quarry
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toxic trident?

atomic surge
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ye

vast quarry
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yeah idk

atomic surge
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woulda been in this

vast quarry
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lets see

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162 mage and

atomic surge
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heart

vast quarry
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I had 156 mage accuracy

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this but with accursed sceptre

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so somwhere between 6 accuracy difference is the sweet spot

atomic surge
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you had 23283 i had 24178

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maybe 24k?

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(I will not test this)

digital jetty
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Yall are attacking orbs with charged staff for bloodied blows instead of purging and still 1 hitting?

atomic surge
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i did that for forfeit

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then was testing barrage for sensory

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which means you'll want to do trident

digital jetty
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I’m not following sorry. Are you saying trident for the ones where there is no demonbane weakness? Why not sang? And also I’m curious specifically about bloodied blows if I’ll still be able to 1 hit enrage orbs at 14 hp missing ward and ring

atomic surge
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yes, untirely unrelated to your question though

digital jetty
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yea cool ty for clarifying for me!

royal anvil
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how long do glyphs last once u step on them for in reg yama?

forest lagoon
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Raw wikisync data from the last 2 days on contract drops

balmy raft
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wait so jagex stealth doubled the rates yesterday or what

forest lagoon
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Oh sorry that's post-pre nerf

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So thursday vs friday

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THey 2-3x'd the rates

balmy raft
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and thats not taking into account last hits, but only demons inside the chasm of fire right

forest lagoon
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Yeah they can't see what sigil the demon had or how the player killed it

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Its just the raw data, so it could be skewed by a lot of factors

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like a bot farm only using melee

balmy raft
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they need to buff the range mage and binding ones

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dps on these styles is so shit

forest lagoon
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I fear theyre just going to nerf the others down to their level lol

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in terms of contracts/hr

balmy raft
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no shot

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they're not making contracts worse in any way at this point

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best thing they could do to contracts right now i smake them a 1/1 lmao

quiet flicker
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Surely they nerf worm contract

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I just want my worms man

forest lagoon
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The latest cope is that its meant to be a practice contract for the soulflame/oathplate

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also still sitting on just 1 divine contract

quiet flicker
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Ye true but eh

runic obsidian
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just choose to get better rotations

dawn current
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Should I just stick with 1KC trips without SGS of bloodfury?

runic obsidian
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neither of those are necessary for longer trips

umbral cradle
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for any1 that was learning 3t/nofly using my explanation video, I learned that I was showcasing a pretty crappy horizontal pattern

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This adjustment is:

  1. More tick efficient
  2. Matches vertical pattern for another tick (step right and click to attack), effectively giving you more time to react to which orientation you got
  3. No more 2 consecutive waiting ticks, just 1 waiting tick
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Reason #2 and #3 arguably make it easier to learn too

radiant sky
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from when you can move

faint lily
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uhhhh

civic epoch
lament canopy
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unlucky go next

carmine cove
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never hurts to ask kekwcd

faint lily
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I might end up on runewatch, but I got screenshots just in case

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That kill was rough too, my anti ran out at the beginning of it, I stayed cause I had tons of good, so spent the ending of my judges chugging wild pies and pizzas.

forest lagoon
prisma heron
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not funny.

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give me my split

umbral cradle
faint lily
umbral cradle
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i do the exact same thing for horizontal/vertical pattern every time

faint lily
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Happy to split if we had agreed upon before, but we did not. its like 416 tob

dawn current
prisma heron
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quite the performance in public for everyone to see

quartz glen
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Do you have screenshot of agreeing to split before starting a duo with an Ironman?

carmine cove
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wonder if this clown bullies everyone into splitting unless he gets a drop

lament canopy
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did this guy change name to troll or

carmine cove
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o ya maybe his wdr name is diff

civic epoch
# faint lily

yeah if split hasnt been agreed upon and they cant provide proof you aint getting on rw

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dw

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specially on ffa world

umbral cradle
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  1. same overall attack cycle pattern every time
  2. he raises his arm to snap, but there's no mage/range swirl sound/animation around your character
quartz glen
umbral cradle
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although #2 isn't a fool proof rule because sometimes he does auto + hourglass simultaneously

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you can react tho

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you click to the right the moment it appears in the air

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(first action of many in the horizontal/vertical pattern that I do)

faint lily
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posted here for reassurance in case someone knew something I didn't. I assumed ffa worlds, would be crazy to pick up a random expecting them to split a 170m item.

I'm sure there are irons on these worlds without even the ability to split that much

forest lagoon
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@umbral cradle excellent no fly guide brother, short, to the point, well said

umbral cradle
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should have shown that one instead of the crappy one i showed in initial vid

quartz glen
dawn current
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shoulda learned solo before 10kc goddam

atomic surge
faint lily
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Am I the next Wizzy?

atomic surge
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Or you're getting a life sentence

atomic surge
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But I'd say fuck em

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Ignore it

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You will never win if you give in to extortion

faint lily
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Yeah no he's not getting a dime.

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Gave him the benefit of the doubt that the yamaers aren't used to 416 rules, but it's probably just extortion. I doubt he would have offered a split to me if he got something.

atomic surge
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He wouldn't have

quiet flicker
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Damn

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Ffa moment

vast quarry
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whos the next scammer

split pagoda
vast quarry
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bkraze?

quiet flicker
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What dude

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It was just a tbow

sudden ocean
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yeah I firmly believe in "ffa unless specified otherwise with proof"

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anything else is shooting yourself in the foot

dire smelt
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What's the current gold standard for melee enrage? Currently doing monofly -> mage.

faint lily
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Depends on desired effort level/scaling.

dire smelt
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this is for solos

faint lily
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Solos id say most chill/still great DPS is Greg surf/fly

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Let's you do melee the whole time while dealing with void flares and staying in cycle

quiet flicker
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How much timesave is nofly in solos?

azure laurel
dire smelt
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gregsurf was it, thanks for the reminder. Just need to not click bad.

quartz glen
umbral cradle
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duo is better for pet

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both are pretty good for uniques

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solos are good if u dont like forming teams

quiet flicker
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from my experience people burnt out fast from yama

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so its nice to know solos cus ppl do a couple kc and leave

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so u can just ddo a cpl kills while waiting for neew teammate

dire smelt
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My solo times are pretty much exactly twice the time of duo times, but the duos use way less supplies and are more chill. So as long as I am ~50/50 with partner duos will be faster for uniques.

quiet flicker
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yeah the only con is the supply usage

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mostly just hardfood tbh

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but u can bring sgs to save alot of it

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but meh i had so much food stocked up from not doing supply heavy content that i just sent it with maul alt + b claws

slow vigil
faint lily
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Duos with both people meleeing the whole fight are just so chill, definitely my preference.

cobalt jungle
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Finished my armor set, I have an extra legs and oath contract

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Any harm In dropping that 200m to the main?

faint lily
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If you don't care about deaths coffer/holding dupes I don't see why not.

radiant sky
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is 416 the yama world for potting with randoms?

forest lagoon
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yeah

faint lily
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There are several Yama worlds for it

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Is 416 active too?

forest lagoon
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You get out what you put it in so think of any partner as just a body to make duo possible

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their performance is kind of irrelevant

faint lily
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I try to look for other meleers.

radiant sky
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was i just unlucky or on at a bad time

radiant pendant
faint lily
radiant sky
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also i love that the venny followed you in here trying to scam ur split lol

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now all thats missing is for him to post a screenshot where u agreed to split

faint lily
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He at least knew how to donofly, was a good duo partner until the extortion attempt

prisma heron
compact vigil
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you good fatush

radiant sky
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he did potentially lose out on 80m or whatever it is if he genuinely thought it was split

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which wouldnt feel good

radiant pendant
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Honestly if I was doing a boss with an iron that isn’t a raid would personally assume ffa

faint lily
radiant sky
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it prob depends on where u meet them

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in clan i always assume split

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here i would always ask

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and in a random world id always assume ffa

faint lily
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Yeah, sometimes I run into clanmates on the Yama worlds. I'll always ask them if they want to split or ffa.

radiant pendant
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Idk only 80m but if it’s a venny that’s like a months rent and groceries

sacred badge
sudden ocean
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assuming random strangers on the internet will split with you by default is crazy

swift thistle
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I've already reported you to runewatch matt
It's over buddy

faint lily
wicked comet
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only split if im not getting the drop...

fossil otter
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the bloodied blows contract is so lame just lost a run to gettin hit a 13 on 13 when it was 78 hp fml back to blk demons we go

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perfect gameplay dying to an rng hit splat is great

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is there a way to change the star color of a black demon without killing them, i just need blue

stiff dagger
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You can go upstairs and cannon lesser demons to change it quicker, but otherwise I don't think there's a way

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But I think it's more worth the time just scything black demons on the bottom floor regardless of the glyph

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They'll still drop bloodied blows contracts just half as commonly

atomic surge
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Where

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That's hilarious

sacred badge
atomic surge
swift thistle
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That's not the dude lol, he's just a troll

atomic surge
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If you would like help resolving this matter I reccomend reaching out to the Runewatch staff team, I believe it is runewatch.com. They will help you reach the justice you deserve.

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Include as little context as you want to

swift thistle
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The wizzy experience

vast quarry
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@faint lily

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i witnessed it

swift thistle
compact vigil
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wait hes not even an iron

quiet flicker
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wtf

quiet flicker
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does anyone know stats for the crush weak contract?

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wonderin if i shud bring 2 inq piece or just full sunfire

misty marlin
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when I went in with full sunfire it drained prayer like mad

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just use inq/torva

quiet flicker
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ty

misty marlin
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I didn't test but I think I also heard you can drain contract defense too

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so probably worth doing if so, maybe someone else can confirm

slow vigil
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I wonder if you can soulflame horn on an alt, log out, and then start the contract the next tick

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I think the boss takes less than 10 ticks to spawn, should barely be able to get the guaranteed maul

quiet flicker
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i dont think so

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cus iremember on aregular kill

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we didnt make it from throne horn

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and ud need to horn before u start

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no?

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hes invurnable for aa while aswell

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like 4 ticks

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or something

slow vigil
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yeah, you'd need to horn before starting

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I'm thinking like you use the contract, get to the final confirmation textbox, and then horn -> logout -> start on 3 consecutive ticks

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but it probably wouldn't quite last I agree

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7t's a lil aggressive

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it'd be close though

quiet flicker
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ye wont know til u try but i dont think u could

fossil mountain
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not sure why you are still pretending like you dont need to split
quite the performance in public for everyone to see

this is my new copypasta plz no steal

stiff dagger
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So double maul/dwh def the play

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For the crush one

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On my cudgel kc I realised all 3 mauls missed 😄

quiet flicker
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thanks pecan

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doing gods work

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cudgel is tough af i think im gonna have to lance on crush

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dont have sra and scy on crush is dog

stiff dagger
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Best of luck soldier

misty marlin
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about to pull out the justi dinhs setup

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that's crush right

quiet flicker
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dinhs is my 11/12 Sadge

misty marlin
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I have one Inq piece, looks like scythe is still good if you drain to 145 def

quiet flicker
misty marlin
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I'll probably just bludgeon though, since that's what I'll use for end phase

plush shadow
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this isint ironman question but is there anywhere to buy contracts atm for practicing?

quiet flicker
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prob w2

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prepare to get merched

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best thing to ask friends/randoms on not world 2 lol

atomic surge
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I'm so glad they delayed update to Thursday

fossil mountain
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damn oathplate looks kinda fire

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i was a big hater

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but i like it

quiet flicker
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i like the red more than the white

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red shouldve been the kit lowkey

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barrows gloves

wicked comet
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barrows gloves fire cape chatarewecooked

faint lily
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Good thing I got oath plate legs this morning so I can retire my Cheetos pants. Kinda sad I never got to wear tassets on my iron. Bandos + face guard is my favorite look

quiet flicker
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bandos faceguard with infernal

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infernal looks so good with bandos for some reason

misty marlin
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nothing says being an iron like buying a bunch of contracts on a main account so I don't have to afk demons for as long

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gonna pot on Friday/the weekend

faint lily
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Is it just me or does my character look kind of like a dwarf in the equipment screen?

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Set looks decent with nezzy helm though

misty marlin
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10/10 item

quiet flicker
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wait ye it looks like ur a dwarf

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did they shift the character more down lol

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i see it too

misty marlin
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found an equipment screenshot from a few months ago, i think its normal

faint lily
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Interesting maybe it's just oath being skinnier

digital jetty
radiant sky
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i was pretty sure about the first 2 but nice to know all 3 for sure

royal anvil
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them not making it so the chisel doesn't do all of them like how u clean herbs is so depressing...gotta do each one chumbucket

misty marlin
royal anvil
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ye i was doing that, but wanted to afk the big rocks for a bit lol

digital jetty
# radiant sky i was pretty sure about the first 2 but nice to know all 3 for sure

In case this helps you or anyone else, I am also pretty sure that regardless of what cycle one is forced to start in for the first bomb cycle, the second bomb cycle will always be ultra god and the 3rd cycle will always be regular cycle assuming no ticks lost and just camping emberlight. I am pretty sure this continues on being consistently predicable throughout the fight because every pattern ends up ultimately ending with an attack on the same tick relative to the bosses attack cycle (tick 19 being the first case of this occurring)

split pagoda
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😈

radiant sky
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other than the 2t start i assume

digital jetty
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i believe he said that the god cycle is the rarest one to see if youre not losing ticks. @ 10:45

radiant sky
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ah yeah that would make more sense

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ngl the better i get at 3t the more of a waste of time it feels like lol

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it really is not saving any actual time its just a for fun meme method

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and for wr attempts i guess

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but then ud have to do the scythe tick fix version

digital jetty
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completely agree its a waste of time. the butterfly methods are way more chill & brain off. only learn if interested in completing contracts imo and even then i think its only useful for the crush based contract

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it IS fun to learn tho 😄

radiant sky
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maybe someone figures out a melee method for some more contracts copium

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ye i did enjoy doing 3t

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ill def continue using it since im alrdy past the point of losing ticks using it

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or losing more ticks then i gain is what i meant

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i do still lose ticks lol

digital jetty
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life hack for learning 3t methods is going to ffa worlds and finding a mage to duo with 😄 then when i mess up cuz i am learning they just pk the orbs for me 😄

radiant sky
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im surprised they're willing to do that lol

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i just kill them myself

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but it would be nice to have a mage servant as long as he brings a horn and it doesnt slow down kph too much

misty marlin
faint lily
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Respect that he recognizes it, but I was like no way mustard ketchup defender + max cheese is tough

azure laurel
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I respect the cheese cape, means he’s not a buyer atleast

sudden ocean
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it all started when they added the thieving skill (my mom says im not allowed to train it)

radiant pendant
compact glade
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what kind of kill times are people getting with 3t nofly solo at yama?

forest lagoon
quiet flicker
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Excited to see todays update ngl

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Wait nvm they pushed it to thursday i forgot

split pagoda
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see u tmrw peepoSalute

vast quarry
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Tomorrow gonna be a contract grind type of day

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Let’s pray for Thursday improvements

fossil otter
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hopefully they buff rates bc i cant even kit the amor lol

runic obsidian
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i think its more likely that they nerf the cost

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probably good to wait till thurs before actually using kit

wraith summit
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Hoping they also nerf the fights, or at the very least the acquisition ones prayge

umbral cradle
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5/5 pre nerf despair

radiant sky
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man i hope they dont nerf the fights other than the rng splashing thing ive heard ppl talk about

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the worm, pet and aether ones should be nerfed i guess they do seem ridiculous for the reward

umbral cradle
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no, rng splashing needs to stay kekw i did it the hard way, up hill both ways

dawn current
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thanks greg im a dumbass but thanks to you i finally got a my first solo with your nofly method

umbral cradle
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FeelsWowMan lets go glad my explanation helped

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❤️

plush shadow
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anyone here have id for voidflares?

faint lily
tired ivy
quiet flicker
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15k aether and full armor is crazy

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Gz on 5/5 tho beast

faint lily
agile wolf
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we have changed the morse code to reflect the word contract that is all thank you

quiet flicker
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Worm contracts now drop 10k worms

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No adjustments have been made

agile wolf
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All fights are now duo

sudden ocean
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i read that morse code users would often misspell words on purpose to throw off decoders

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i choose to believe this was intentional

quiet flicker
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Ww2 but in osrs?

sudden ocean
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god wars 2 confirmed

quiet flicker
rocky mango
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Anyone seen a completed acquisition contract solo? I’ve only seen Jraze and his duo partner crash the wormconomy. Curious what they’ll do with those tomorrow if there hasn’t been a solo clear yet 🤷‍♂️

faint lily
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As it stands it feels like only bots are gonna seriously grind the acquisition contracts

umbral cradle
forest lagoon
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2-4m/hr

faint lily
fossil mountain
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only need 300k runes

umbral cradle
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i have all the aether runes

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because I farmed a bunch before they nerfed aether rune drop rates

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apparently soul talisman is an in game item l0l

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unobtainable

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if u try to craft without bind cast, it mentions soul talisman in chat

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on wiki too

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Old School RuneScape Wiki

The soul talisman was an unobtainable item that would allow players to enter the Soul Altar. As the Soul Altar did not exist at the time of its release, it was not made available.
With the release of the Soul Altar in Arceuus on 7 January 2016 (which does not require a soul talisman) it was removed from the game, but was re-added - though remain...

bleak moat
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[[9mm revolver]] also existed at one point

acoustic summitBOT
misty marlin
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Is there a way to hotkey the look south option?

azure laurel
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I have WASD for NSEW

misty marlin
robust swift
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are different donofly methods compatible with each other in a duo

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for example greg's method with the regular donofly

stiff dagger
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they're almost perfectly compatible, with the exception that non-host will have to dodge a single fireball attack occasionally depending on the methods

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rather than explaining fully i'd just say that it's so minor that you'd probably be quicker just doing kills, and after 2/3 you'll notice where it happens

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and it should be fairly easy to adjust

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just move 2 tiles away in some direction

faint lily
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It is nice while learning to be on the same cycle as someone. Easier to see how you are messing up/to get back into cycle if you do mess up.

But not really relevant after your learning stage.

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Plus if you know he attacks on a 7t cycle you can kinda tell if you pay attention

umbral cradle
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"Look South" under a hotkey for example

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hold the key, click compass, and it will look south

honest monolith
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just tank the 20 damage every third kill

misty marlin
balmy raft
forest lagoon
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This is great news

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I will need at least 3x this Im sure

misty marlin
balmy raft
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would literally be a better system

winter seal
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"every dossier radiant drop gives 1 of every type"

quiet flicker
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damn

atomic surge
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Are they actually getting clears?

quiet flicker
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yep

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quite a few death sstill tho

compact vigil
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how many shards

quiet flicker
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contract owner gets 45

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parnter rolls table

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looks like 4-5 min kills

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4:30-5

atomic surge
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Base profit is about 10m

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I think

compact vigil
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how fast can u get the contracts

sudden ocean
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pretty fast from lesser demons

sick stream
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Tried Yama solo like 10 times earlier and got smoked lol

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Seems like there’s so much going on at once

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And I think he was hitting through prayer like 20s while solo

runic obsidian
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i found it tough at first too

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just takes practice

sick stream
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How are you guys finding partners

runic obsidian
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he only hits hard thru prayer if you're tanking melee last phase but you shouldnt be doing that

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either do a fly method or mage camp for p3

sudden ocean
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tough part for me is getting void flares p1/p2

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you have to like

sick stream
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Ahh yeah I’ve seen the fly methods

sudden ocean
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step on whatever glyph you have 2+ of, kill the other color, then immediately get ready for the next spec?

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i guess it's easier if you have a purging

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like every other version of this boss

sick stream
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Yeah here’s my setup

runic obsidian
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yeah flares are easy with purging

sudden ocean
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surely i will get second synapse before 2000 tds

runic obsidian
sick stream
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Lolol about the zerker ring

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I’m 300kc in I know it’s not dry but damn

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Got the pet no zerker ring

runic obsidian
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based on your other gear you are way past the stage where you should have grabbed a zerker

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its one of the fastest but strongest upgrades to get

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just go camp rex

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its like wearing 4 pieces of bandos

compact vigil
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yama drops are pretty reasonable to grind but they are still very low return on time investment for the bonuses they answer

sick stream
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The drip though

compact vigil
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i wouldn’t rush yama until you’ve maxed out your basic upgrades

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it is hot can’t deny that

sick stream
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So zerker ring is an easy one, I’d have 20% magic damage bonus with prayers up

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Prob just a skill issue

balmy raft
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suffering before berserker ring my god

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that was my leagues 2 strat

misty marlin
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void 👀

heady atlas
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Proper mage gear, bring, occult, boots, tort, super cmbs seem more important for you atm

plush shadow
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can just ask for donofly req etc

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if ur struggling with solo definitely would duo its like 10x easier

radiant sky
civic epoch
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god bless the lockboxes

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never flaming the ddarts drop again

winter seal
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fuck em

#

gave me dupe chest

civic epoch
#

holy fuck thats rough

#

just need 100 shards now and im out

#

kinda sad that greenlog is most likely not happening

winter seal
#

yeah kinda sucks

#

good part of mine is all the aether

civic epoch
#

yep 50k is v nice

#

surely they make radiant cheaper tmr

#

so u can actually use it for something else

winter seal
#

surely clueless

civic epoch
brave bloom
#

If i'm getting melee'd on the first hit of donofly, does this mean i'm too early or too late? I'm using gnomonkeys tiles whith the delay tile at the start depending on where you spawn.

sudden ocean
#

there's just no reason to make it cost 30k aether

sudden ocean
#

if doing the delay thing

radiant sky
#

ye the melee is tick 4 from when you can move i think

misty marlin
radiant sky
#

tick 2 and 3 are both safe you just need to delay a tick on 1 or delay tile

#

if you're on 2

brave bloom
#

ok thanks. I think i figured it out, if my true tile paths to anywhere other than the delay tile when i click on it, i don't need to delay

sudden ocean
#

sounds right

quiet flicker
#

Anyone got bigbrain uses for horn besides yama?

#

Wait, is outside corp cave ironman only aswell? Or just when u enter

#

0 reduction, all zcb with horn corp method inc

#

Let me cook

misty marlin
quiet flicker
#

wait sad i didnt realize its only melee

uneven breach
#

ToA defence reduction seems solid

quiet flicker
#

Wont u just bring maul/hammer now then?

#

Cus its guaranteed

#

Instead of bgs to toa

#

If rolling with a horn ofc

plain raft
#

bros i'm not having a good time anymore

quiet flicker
#

Keep ur head up king

plain raft
#

never seen a duo drop, last drop i saw was at 491kc

quiet flicker
#

How close are u to craft chest with shards

plain raft
#

i can make it now, but i was waiting to see what i got

#

if i got helm i'd make chest, chest i'd make helm

quiet flicker
#

Ye

#

Tough for sure

plain raft
#

i have the horn and oathplate acquisition contracts but i am not gamer enough to do those

quiet flicker
#

Ye those are tough af

plain raft
#

unless they nuke p3 tomorrow, i think p1 and p2 look very doable

#

has anyone done a horn/oathplate acq yet? i saw someone did the worms

quiet flicker
#

Not that i know of

#

Jraze got to 13% on horn iirc

#

No clue if he cleared it

#

Stopped watching

plain raft
#

oic

#

but yeah it feels like i'm more likely to just get another 420 shards than i am to get a drop at this point

quiet flicker
#

Never know when luck turns around

#

I was abt to make my piece too til my friend invited me

#

Got what i needed luckily

plain raft
#

None of my teammates have seen a drop when with me, and I've done probably 875~ duos which is wicked

quiet flicker
#

But if ur 1/3 its tough to call lol

#

Unless u have t helm

#

Then chest is a nobrainer

plain raft
#

I only have faceguard, no torva

quiet flicker
#

Get 1k atleast

#

See what happens

runic obsidian
#

i wouldn't ever make a piece until 2/3

#

you dont want to make a piece and then get that piece as a drop

plain raft
#

for sure, i agree. actually tilted over how bad the rng has been here tho

lament canopy
#

low lvl ironmen go to the main instance instead

plush shadow
#

does enrage have more hp now in awakend yama?

#

or is it balanced in a way where its mostly same hp on p3?

winter seal
plush shadow
#

they didint reduce hp for most of the contracts (very wrong hp buff straight up gone from most contraacts my mistake)

#

so it seemed like enrage was now 49% hp instead of 32%

#

either way i think its a good change even if thats case

deep pawn
#

looking like +166 hp in p3 during Forfeit Breath but its
-625 hp overall. we take those lol

plush shadow
#

think im wrong someone telling me all contracts had hp buff removed execpt glyphic/blows

deep pawn
plush shadow
#

ye im blind

fossil mountain
#
Defeat Yama in an average time of under 2:34 over your last four kills.
#

holy shit isnt that super fast?

surreal rock
#

Reads to me like you can tele out each kill

limpid mica
#

you can

forest lagoon
#

Yes that is fast tho

surreal rock
#

So it's gonna be some sbs venge thrall shenanigan angle

limpid mica
#

for forfeit breath we can just purge staff the orbs now?

surreal rock
#

Maybe also need to learn a nofly method

atomic surge
#

And if it's like araxxor, you can't tele out

#

I think

stiff dagger
#

We gonna have to sbs venge

digital jetty
#

Araxxor is like get x kills in y mins

#

Yama like kill in y min on average for x kills

atomic surge
#

I would be very surprised if it didn't count by instance

safe yew
#

so now that demonbane is available on the contract versions, do we no longer need shadow?

digital jetty
#

Yea I could be wrong ill be interested to see either way

#

That time seems pretty darn tight if you can’t bank

misty marlin
civic epoch
#

we got the previous 2 times right after banking

ruby stump
#

yup^

sudden ocean
#

hard mode yama changes seem good but i don't see any changes to purging staff req or 30k aether rune cost

#

weeeeeee

plush shadow
#

instead of 3 sang hits u can do 2 purg staff

full shuttle
sudden ocean
#

it's just stupid

#

the blood runes for blorva was stupid enough

tall oar
#

is there an easy way to farm forfeit breath contracts

#

do i just melee and then barrage or something

#

or can i autocast grasp

sudden ocean
#

autocast grasp is fine

tall oar
#

i feel like the spell would wear off no? or does it not matter

atomic surge
#

Autocast grasp with mark every 5 mins

#

Higher apm is max melee but with an anc top barrage and scythe 48s

faint lily
#

Isn't making the speed task 4 kills in a row but not in the same instance just worse than one giga fast kill?

#

Like that's going to involve a similar amount of resetting.

#

But this time you are resetting 2/3 into the kill and not even getting kills along the way.

tall oar
#

also are greater demons the play or should i kill black demons

sudden ocean
#

is there even any indication that the bigger demons have higher drop rate

#

i just kill lessers for the champ scroll chance

umbral cradle
fossil mountain
umbral cradle
#

what is a non-standard contract?

misty marlin
#

I think any contract

umbral cradle
#

so it doesn't auto complete even if you've finished radiant.... great

faint lily
umbral cradle
#

what does "without being more than one tile away from the center of his shadow crash attack" mean?

surreal rock
winter seal
#

it's the meteors

sudden ocean
#

i was wondering the same thing lol

#

the center of the x?

#

oh what

faint lily
#

Shadow crash is red meteor???

#

How does that make sense

umbral cradle
#

?

surreal rock
#

No its the p3 meteor

umbral cradle
#

wat lol

sudden ocean
#

the hourglasses?

surreal rock
#

Always attacking with speedup

winter seal
#

yes

umbral cradle
#

those are red

sudden ocean
#

oh ofc

umbral cradle
#

fire

sudden ocean
#

more than one tile away

#

i.e. perfect dodge

umbral cradle
#

why is that shadow lol

sudden ocean
#

they do have shadows lol

surreal rock
#

When they land they spawn shadows

sudden ocean
#

but yea poorly worded

umbral cradle
faint lily
#

I always pictured shadow as any of purple attacks

umbral cradle
#

so help me understand if im wrong

plush shadow
#

what changes for divine severance?

umbral cradle
#

but wouldn't you get "Contract Choreographer" every single kill in max eff duos

#

?

tired ivy
#

I guess this autocompletes when you do another kill?

sudden ocean
#

probably lol

#

whats fire fighter

tired ivy
umbral cradle
plush shadow
#

they had this same situation with fang kit i think had to wait a week or something to complete ca retroactively

#

or do another 500

sudden ocean
tired ivy
#

well doing another kc is kinda 0 time KEKWCD for other tasks

sudden ocean
#

so yea just seems like a money kill

winter seal
#

gonna have to do another kill for the ca's anyway.

sudden ocean
#

unless you don't own a purging staff kekwcd

#

then you have to kill the flares a silly way

winter seal
#

just have ur teammate kill the void flare

sudden ocean
#

true

tired ivy
#

you have 0 synapses?

sudden ocean
#

only emberlight but seriously considering reverting it at this point

#

1500 tds

tired ivy
#

can just swap it

#

i did that a lot on release

#

unless you're a scuffed acc with no shards

sudden ocean
#

idr how many shards i have

umbral cradle
#

so why are they so inconsistent with CAs?

#

not even the 1 yama kc CA auto completed

#

the 2:34 kc average for 4 kc sounds like you can easily passive that one in max eff, you just want to do bclaws instead of sgs 2 divine trips

faint lily
#

Jmod comment also said that this was "just like araxxor"

When it indeed is not like it at all.

sudden ocean
#

so if i'm reading this right an arclight takes 30 shards to fully charge? which means it should be the same for emberlight?

faint lily
#

Gonna have to wait for me or my duo to get a horn to go for the GM speed time.

tired ivy
faint lily
sudden ocean
lament canopy
#

if you have dupe ancient shards theres not really a reason not to revert atm unless you want to hold off for speculative reasons

sudden ocean
#

ok yea that's big

#

i will do that tomorrow when i bond up

faint lily
sudden ocean
#

after i finish the rest of the cas

#

ok honestly i was a little disappointed that the araxxor speed time autocompleted, i wanted to try it out

#

nice if yama speed is different

#

although it looks free anyway

atomic surge
#

but otherwise yeah probably

umbral cradle
#

what is center skip?

#

is that just nofly

#

if so, then that qualifies under what I said of "max eff duos"

atomic surge
#

I assume it also means that in p2 you have to intentionally skip wave in the intersection

umbral cradle
faint lily
#

Maybe interpreting shadow crash as the purple waves? That's what I was thinking so first also

umbral cradle
#

people were saying earlier that shadow crash = hourglasses

atomic surge
#

Is that not what it is?

#

I'm dumb

umbral cradle
#

what would that even mean

#

"one tile away from the center of his shadow crash attack"

#

as soon as it enters the arena, ur failing that

misty marlin
umbral cradle
#

because ur not at the edge where it enters, so ur more than 1 tile away

atomic surge
#

Good point tbh

umbral cradle
#

it also doesnt just hit once, it continuously hits

misty marlin
#

shadow crash is p3 hourglasses

faint lily
#

You aren't dumb it's confusing naming to be fair.

atomic surge
umbral cradle
#

yea cuz its literally red/fire

misty marlin
#

that CA reads: don't get hit by damage that isn't required to be hit by, and nofly p3 / mage p3 but always get tick speedups

faint lily
#

Hourglass attacks would be much simpler/no one would confuse it

umbral cradle
#

not purple/blue like the shadow-themed attacks

#

oh I guess the black clouds?

#

lol

#

when it explodes

misty marlin
#

is anyone here good at runescape math

#

in this setup with dwh on accurate I maxed a 90 dwh spec on yama in the glyphic attenuation contract

umbral cradle
#

today or earlier?

#

they changed it

misty marlin
#

today

umbral cradle
#

also i dont think we know the formula really

plush shadow
#

how does demonbane compare now for glyphic

umbral cradle
#

i think they even suggested in the blog today that it's not even going to be linear

misty marlin
#

wiki calc says normal max is 78, I'm wondering if we can derive the formula from this

umbral cradle
#

i checked shadow max mage and its like 10-20% accurate i believe

fossil mountain
#

mace wins again

#

common mace w

wraith summit
#

Am I really the only person who immediately understood what was meant by shadow crash?

#

Stg buncha boomers in here

plush shadow
#

i still dont get what it means

misty marlin
#

this is a shadow crash

surreal rock
#

Although I think the wording is odd

sudden ocean
#

The big thing with that ca is you can't donofly because you have to do perfect hourglass dodges

#

So it's a jedi slide or kirby air ride angle

misty marlin
#

which is jokes

sudden ocean
#

ah true

surreal rock
#

Just mage ye

sudden ocean
#

I will probably try to 3t it lol

#

And mage if that's too hard

misty marlin
#

I did it with a solo melee kc this morning, wasn't too bad

plush shadow
wraith summit
#

If shadows coming from something crashing didn't explain it, then the 1 tile away should have been the most obvious giveaway of all time

plush shadow
#

never seen anyone call it shadow crash

surreal rock
#

No but its a mechanic that gives you better dps

plush shadow
#

ig it makes sense

surreal rock
#

So they intended you to use it to perfect kills which makes sense in a perfection ca

sudden ocean
#

the word shadow is just deceptive cause he has fire and shadow attacks and it looks more like a fire attack

#

it does have shadows tho

plush shadow
#

when i heard shadow crash i thought of waves

#

initally

sudden ocean
#

ya same

wraith summit
#

It literally has shadows coming out

#

I can't

plush shadow
#

i think it makes sense but noone ever calls it that

surreal rock
#

Well jagex does

#

Apparently

wraith summit
#

No shit they're not going to name the attacks after the garbage the community comes up with

#

"oh no they didn't call it 'cum phase' in the akha CAs!"

surreal rock
#

Would have been a power move ngl

faint lily
surreal rock
#

Political correctness gone mad smh

faint lily
#

Didn't they change the muspah cball drops from 666 because of Christians? I wonder how they feel about yama's stats for that contract

surreal rock
#

I meaaan

umbral cradle
#

??? lol

wraith summit
#

He's literally a demon so idk

umbral cradle
#

fucking religion man

surreal rock
#

You're making a contract with the devil

#

Or a demon disciple

umbral cradle
faint lily
wraith summit
#

Also no christian is going to be doing that contract fight anyways kekw

surreal rock
#

Should probably not engage with the content if you care that much

sudden ocean
#

honestly if i were a christian i would think it's incredibly based that i'm fighting satan even in the video game

#

thank you jagex for giving me this opportunity to practice my faith

surreal rock
#

Idk I don't really understand the rules for that type of stuff

sudden ocean
#

the rules are whatever you want them to be

slow vigil
#

So you can leave between kc for the speed task at yama, according to earlier conversation

#

Can you also tele out on slow kills and it won't reset the counter then?

safe yew
#

yes, you can leave between kills and tele on the slow kills

plush shadow
#

wait nvm im ie

umbral cradle
#

does anyone know what this means "Void Flares now apply special on-hit effects correctly."?

#

does that mean you can't tick eat them anymore?

wraith summit
#

I didn't know you could tick eat them in the first place

slow vigil
#

Maybe fire orbs are supposed to burn you like fire specs if you don't glyph

wraith summit
#

They are indeed supposed to burn you

#

I usually get that when fucking up

slow vigil
#

Oh do the orbs already burn you

#

I figured they didn't and that was the change

wraith summit
#

They do, it probably wasn't applying every time

agile wolf
plush shadow
#

is tick eating voidflares useful for any of the contracts?

umbral cradle
#

he heals pretty big

faint lily
#

Surely enough shards to just craft the set at that point when breaking down the helmets?

quiet flicker
#

bro>

umbral cradle
#

gotta get on clog

quiet flicker
#

bro

#

i need to do contract again??

umbral cradle
quiet flicker
#

it didnt auto complete

#

???

faint lily
#

Yeah still sucks

umbral cradle
#

?

quiet flicker
#

oh

#

thank god

umbral cradle
#

it might work, might not

quiet flicker
#

why is it like that tho llol

umbral cradle
#

no promises

quiet flicker
#

i see..

slow vigil
#

Also I assume it has to be oathplate/horn/pet/radiant contract right?

#

Not worm catalyst shard

quiet flicker
#

no clue

misty marlin
#

to me it reads "do any contract"

#

what would people suggest for the order to do oathplate contracts in

#

I'd like to go easiest to hardest

umbral cradle
#

i can make a list for u

slow vigil
#

It's phrased weirdly if it's do any contract

umbral cradle
#

forfeit, divine severance, glyphic attenuation (after learning nofly),

#

then arguably you could say sensory or bloodied blows for hardest

slow vigil
#

"advanced contract" vs just "contract"

misty marlin
#

interesting, I was doing glyphic first but I'll pot forfeit breath instead

#

we probably emberlight that one now too eh

umbral cradle
#

erm not sure ur gunna want to do last phase like that but w/e

#

up to u

faint lily
#

Id assume camping purging is viable for all of them now besides the crush one if no shadow

slow vigil
#

Surely if no fly is good for glyphic it's good for forfeit, no?

misty marlin
quiet flicker
#

did they remove demonbane on the crush one aswell?

slow vigil
#

Unless that's one with extra orbs

misty marlin
umbral cradle
#

bloodied blows might not be that hard now with the nerfs

#

does anyone know what the chip is?

misty marlin
#

presumably half of what it used to be

slow vigil
#

If it's 50% less then the max is either 6 or 7

#

I know at super low HP people were reporting 14, and I saw a 13 on stream

#

Guthix rests all you need to stay under 15 now

misty marlin
#

does anyone have stat spy of the non-attenuation contract yamas?

umbral cradle
#

didnt flip through other tabs unlucky

misty marlin
#

My guess is that the style specific defenses are the same, and if you can reduce defence down to 145 (same as normal yama) then calcs for normal yama should work the same

#

for melee dps at least

#

mage would be impacted by magic level

#

hmm wait I forgot the shadow patterns in p3 change location, so flying is out and nofly gets harder

#

mage it is

radiant pendant
#

After reading the new updates what % do u guys think the contracts got easier by? Like 20% ?

umbral cradle
#

wait a second.... does the 66%+33% -> 75%+50% change and HP change in conjunction mean that sensory clouding is overall harder now?

slow vigil
#

Yeah lol

umbral cradle
#

so hp isn't 3125 anymore for sensory clouding, it's 2500

#

but 50% of 2500 is 1250

#

so you have to deal with P3 which is by far the hardest part for 1250 hp instead of ~1030 hp

#

LOL

slow vigil
#

For sure harder but at least you get back there faster + more supplies

umbral cradle
#

right but getting there with full supplies wasn't really an issue on that contract

misty marlin
#

okay so forfeit > severance > attenuation > bloodied > sensory then

umbral cradle
#

yea honestly, I didn't even think bloodied was that hard when I did it pre nerf

#

altho to be fair I was letting myself get chanced on 11hp/12hp quite a few times

#

it's still pretty monkas though

#

because ur 1 shot hp the entire time

misty marlin
#

any reason to use ring of endurance over magus for forfeit breath, or is 20 stam per stam fine

umbral cradle
#

and i think u have ur inequalities flipped

#

forfeit < severance < attenuation < bloodied < sensory

slow vigil
#

Entity hide your own hp bar to reduce stress

misty marlin
umbral cradle
#

ur going to have a bad time without that

misty marlin
#

ok good shout

sacred badge
#

cloggers win again

slow vigil
#

Explorers ring + max cape left click run restore meta

vast quarry
#

molgoats pathing for p3 is insane

#

helped me do bloodied blows

#

are we able to coffer contracts now?

umbral cradle
#

oh that's a good shout

umbral cradle
#

they are still disabled

vast quarry
#

damn

umbral cradle
#

they really went soft on CAs not requiring all contracts for GM

misty marlin
#

idk if they're gonna have gm locked behind blorva they should have gm locked behind radplate too

tired ivy
#

I like it, it opens the door to keeping things that are harder than gm in the game

#

Not saying that current contracts are

slow vigil
#

They should lock gm behind horn acquisition

#

🙂

tall oar
#

i feel like they couldve required all radiant contracts if they werent so ass to get

slow vigil
#

After the buffs it's fine tbh

radiant pendant
fossil otter
#

bloodied blows now does 5% instead of 10% so he can hit what now thru prayer? it used to be 13?

tall oar
#

and it especially sucks if you have no main to practice on

vast quarry
#

was the cannon confirmed to give divine contracts

fossil otter
#

yes i got a couple with cannon

quiet flicker
#

can u bank between

#

speed kills?

#

it says ur last 4 kills

faint lily
#

Yes

fossil otter
#

yea you can

vast quarry
#

ty kings

tall oar
#

blog says the demons drop 2 ashes if youre killing them correctly but im maging on the melee sigil and its still dropping 2? does it drop 2 if you have any chance at all for a contract?

slow vigil
#

Are you sure it's the melee sigil

#

They also changed the colors

lament canopy
#

it was broken and they hotfixed it and broke it in a diff way

slow vigil
#

Oh lmao

tall oar
#

same thing happening with the spec sigil as well

median bobcat
#

I don’t duo much, what do folks usually do these days if they spawn late for dono/gregfly? is there a way to prevent spawning late

misty marlin
#

if you do the hit from the delay tile and get meleed off the rip because you were delayed, do a 4t emberlight hit where you should do the 5t emberlight in the cycle in order to catch up the tick you were delayed

#

that's your options in descending order of quality. sync judge (avoid delay entirely) > holding first hit (avoids melee) > speed up cycle by 1t (at least keeps the cycle intact, but tanks the orb)

faint lily
#

You also can spawn late and still get the first hit, if you are only 1 tick away from the delay tile. So the only time you have to delay is if you are both 2 ticks away and delayed.

#

You just need to recognize that fact and not delay.

median bobcat
#

Is spawning late guaranteed if you don’t kill same tick

#

Or is it rng

misty marlin
#

it's based on judge overkill afaik

#

and also where your partner stands on the island/if they jump back or not

surreal rock
#

If its out of sync more idk

atomic surge
#

Use magus and vile vigor spam

#

With a bunch of restore

#

I had 9 restore 1 stam it was plenty

misty marlin
#

do you have a setup saved

atomic surge
#

9 restore 1 stam

#

Ward of arc /thrall with smoke runes

#

Anglers

#

Trident for flares but now you can just demon bane them

misty marlin
#

Sounds good, I'll give both setups a try and see

atomic surge
#

It was pretty straightforward tbh

#

Run is a nonfactor

quiet flicker
#

okay the speed ca is horrible

#

2/4 still with veng sbs

#

zzzz

faint lily
#

Gnomonkey said contracts are saved maybe redditors will hop on the 30k aether requirement hate.

quiet flicker
#

whats the meta to farm contracts now?

#

anyone have a setup + method

cobalt jungle
#

still waiting for a good horn contract method

stiff dagger
#

keep waiting that's insane

faint lily
#

Glad I'm 3/3 so I can droptrade/coffer my oathplate acquisition contract without any regrets.

radiant sky
#

can you pot inside instance before u start boss for no pot ca

faint lily
#

Surely you can't get a boss fail before the boss exists

stiff dagger
#

yeah you can pot before you spawn it

sharp lantern
#

+1 speed CAs

faint lily
#

I think im just gonna pot regular money kills with my duo until we get 2 sub 2:30s b2b, then go put on lunars and try for the remaining 2.

quiet flicker
#

i never learnt nofly

#

i can deal with 2 flare spawns tho

#

idk hm there are

misty marlin
quiet flicker
#

what about glpyhic

#

same thing?

misty marlin
#

unsure

quiet flicker
#

frick

slow vigil
#

it's the same thing yeah, you just have to choose the column to dodge on correctly

#

I think @umbral cradle used it and probably knows the answer

quiet flicker
#

suffering or ultor

#

fuck it imma try and get lucky on enrage

#

and hoe i dont get too many shifted columns

umbral cradle
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can still use nofly just go to the right column i guess

plain raft
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So they didn't make any changes to the horn/oathplate acquisitions?

opal zealot
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Not sure but my understanding of the blog says the Hp changes and the phase transition changes should apply.

quiet flicker
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anyone tried pineapple contract?

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apparently it counts for ca

sudden ocean
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aint no way

winter seal
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isn't that one as hard as like oathplate anyway

slow vigil
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well they removed the floor puddles

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and presumably you can duo it

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duoing alone might make it the easiest

radiant sky
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someone needs to make melee methods for the contracts so i dont have to do mage bullshit

misty marlin
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forfeit breath was not too bad

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1/5, mage setup definitely easier than melee would have been with the random shifts in the waves

quiet flicker
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pineapple contract might be the easist indeed

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in duo atleast

lone storm
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Now that Yama is weak to demonbane on contracts, does this mean orbs are weak as well? One hittable if half HP?

icy copper
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Good question I hope so, although I'm pretty sure I read some complaints about it so don't think so

lone storm
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They are weak to demonbane. Forfeit breath was free. I'm not sure which contract people are complaining about needing 36% magic damage for though

tired ivy
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what's the tech for the speed? money kills and tele for spec each time and that's it?

misty marlin
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orbs have 83 hp

fossil mountain
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sbs venge probably good

tired ivy
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what do you venge? the fire/shadow shit?

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the glyph stuff?

gusty apex
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are black demons bugged i am getting 2x ashes no matter how i kill them

icy copper
atomic surge
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can I get an honorary regm

sudden ocean
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not til 2/5!

atomic surge
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bingo tomorrow despair

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I will go super hard on the yama contract tile

faint lily
quiet flicker
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i thought u had a clear already

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what in the jagex

sacred badge
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(opened every interface imaginable)

quiet flicker
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i thought it was just me xd

atomic surge
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it felt very consistent

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the average max gear duo + venges should get the GM time in 4kc no teleing out of kills

cobalt jungle
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any reason we're keeping shards on the account post oathplate?

icy copper
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oath plate boots

acoustic lava