#Yama - May 14

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atomic surge
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you just can't see it :^)

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until you hit demon

sudden ocean
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oh

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is it on every demon

atomic surge
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yes

sudden ocean
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how often do the glyphs change

atomic surge
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random :)

sudden ocean
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:)

vast quarry
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random after 32 from it changing

balmy raft
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i was seeing exactly every 32

sudden ocean
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Would i be insane for setting up a chaeldar block list to give me greaters (tds), black demons (contracts/gorillas), and lesser demons (contracts/champ scroll)

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She doesn't assign araxytes grrr

tired ivy
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is there a good way to get back into gregfly if it's fucked or just give up

atomic surge
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i've done it

bleak moat
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If you know what tick you're at in the cycle, and haven't fucked it over with the boss meleeing, then possibly. I've only done it when I'm off by 1 tick

atomic surge
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if you pay close attention you can

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yeah or if you can spec the flare and immediately move around to where you sohuld be

sudden ocean
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Apparently mage/range autoattack animation is when the fire/shadow appears on you, which is like 1 tick before he raises his hand

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i think i have had trouble jumping back into a fly cycle because i assumed it was always when he raises his hand

umbral cradle
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@vast quarry if u dont wanna do red spec one, if u just spam kill demons does it eventually swap?

vast quarry
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ye

atomic surge
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ive had one bind contract

umbral cradle
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is one demon better than another?

tired ivy
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don't know if that's known

quaint stratus
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sorry if its been answered, does anyone know what causes people to spawn in at different times after judge?

atomic surge
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epic

atomic surge
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dont stand south

quaint stratus
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ok so standing north is safe

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idm spawnging in further away from delay tile, but idk its wonky when spawn timer is also added

swift thistle
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Doesn't it have to do with the timing of your hits on judge

quaint stratus
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at least learning

umbral cradle
vast quarry
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sensory clouding and bloodied blows are the 2 ima do first tomorrow

atomic surge
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I have 5 each on the main

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The ge limit is so goofy

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It has to be an oversight

agile wolf
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maybe they’ll change it

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once stuff is finalized

vast quarry
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fun fact

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if u use scorching bow to bind yama p3

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and walk through him

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he moves around

sudden ocean
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spaghetti

atomic surge
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That is a fun fact

plush shadow
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hm contracts per hour u guys getting at gdemons post buff?

atomic surge
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5ish

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But none of the freeze one

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Also the best option for that is apparently full max str but with a robe top freeze and scythe 48 max

quiet flicker
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I hope the oathplate shard is p ez if ur used to regular solos cus thats all i need to do craft legs

surreal rock
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in that case I like to hit the boss from the east side timing it manually clicking as he snaps his fingers. just gotta make sure you actually do a 5t emberlight next

vast quarry
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they are indeed not piss easy

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gl gamers

slow vigil
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250 worms has never been so hard to acquire

surreal rock
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I was wrong lol

misty marlin
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I haven't been watching people, are contracts harder than they appear

lament canopy
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yeah they seem pretty challenging but they look like fun fights

slow vigil
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let's just say that this part does a lot of heavy lifting

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there's a lot more to it than just what's written down

lament canopy
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yeah i thought that was like a descriptor of everything following it but its not

vast quarry
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ive gotten 3 contracts to p3 so

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doable

misty marlin
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Well my final thought yesterday stands, if contracts are easy then they're not prestigious enough, and if contracts are hard I'm annoyed I have to farm black demons for several hours

surreal rock
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I'm just gonna buy a bunch and practice on main, then 1 and done them all

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surely

misty marlin
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I don't even have oathplate to recolor so I guess I'll just keep doing normal Yama while people figure out the fights

surreal rock
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I'm going on holiday for a week so hopefully when I return there will be some insane tilesets I can just click on

radiant pendant
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You guys think doing solo Yama with a maul/horn alt is better or atleast worth it rather than duos for uniques? 1/120 for solo and 1/240 for duo I think, im also burnt on duos lol

tardy topaz
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is there any consensus on what the best demon to farm for contracts is?

surreal rock
radiant sky
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apparently the maul alt loses too much time to be worth it

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better to just bgs

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personally im prob gonna maul alt if i go to practice kirby method but i also dont do it for the drops i guess

radiant pendant
cobalt jungle
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Welp guess I'm Green logging the boss before I use my contracts

grim meteor
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who wants to learn yama with me?

radiant sky
radiant sky
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so unless ur doing 1 kill trips in which case u should duo itll be faster to bgs

surreal rock
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but I'd rather have a faster fight

radiant sky
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ye i just think duos are better then

grim meteor
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can you guys recommend me where can I find yama partner? @radiant sky @surreal rock

surreal rock
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ye I duo moslty

radiant sky
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well duos are better either way right?

surreal rock
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more fun too imo

surreal rock
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nowhere, noone does this boss anymore

icy copper
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Busy world and stand out front

surreal rock
tired ivy
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Duos are just so chill tbh.

cobalt jungle
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339 is the world I use for nawest

quaint stratus
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Ya I think duos are still the play long term

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Feels way more reclined more kills per trip etc

surreal rock
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they should also be better in theory

icy copper
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How many KC per trip you lads getting in duos?

cobalt jungle
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I've had good luck but once in a while you get a gim in blue moon that banks every kill

honest monolith
tired ivy
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Idk probably like 10 avg with a bit of trolling

honest monolith
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more is super doable with either sweating or horn + elder maul + sgs

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or just sending mage

surreal rock
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I do 1 divine trips with claws

grim meteor
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if I'm not familiar with the mechanics, should I go try solo first?

honest monolith
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I would not recommend it

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mostly cuz it's not very fun

icy copper
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I got 1 solo KC first personally before I got a duo KC haha , would not recommend

grim meteor
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thank you

carmine cove
sudden ocean
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solo is way harder

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i still only have 1 solo in 350+ duos

grim meteor
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yeah you're right. already have 5kc from duo

atomic surge
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I really like sgs for multikill trips

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maul alt only loses a couple ticks

radiant sky
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i dunno the source was pecan not me

atomic surge
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zamn...

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can't argue with that ngl

lone storm
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Soloing is harder but you'll learn way faster. It makes duos feel like a breeze. In contrast I don't think my partner who only duos is learning how to solo at all, not to mention contracts

quartz glen
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My gear doesn’t feel good enough for solo

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Duo no problem though

lone storm
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Three things I hate about solos: 1. BGS RNG, 2. Exiting donofly to mage, and 3. DPS Check if trying to skip orbs that spawned on 2nd sigil

radiant pendant
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I just need to
Cope, had like 5-6 items sniped in front of me, 3 of them being within 10kc from the same guy

surreal rock
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you can keep going with melee after dealing with orbs

lone storm
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True, I've been putting that off. Seems tough

surreal rock
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its not really after a little practice

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most difficult part is the the 3way switch in 2 ticks after purg staff spec

radiant pendant
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Is there a way to have tile presets for certain areas? The main reason I stopped gregsurf was my tiles were overlapping so I found myself having to manually unmark them

lone storm
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Is there anyway to adopt gregsurf v2 for duo?

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I switch between the two

languid harbor
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just got 2 famiilar contracts from 1 dossier

misty marlin
ruby stump
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oh so NOW we hotfix it

misty marlin
languid harbor
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ah

acoustic lava
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Contracts giga buffed

languid harbor
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was looking at wiki and it said 1 mb

swift thistle
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Wiki is fast but it ain't that fast lol

quiet flicker
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Has anyone tried the shards contract yet

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Any tech?

languid harbor
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dang wished dossier rolled at the end of the table lockboxes and shards are rarer now :/

twilit parcel
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these devs man..

swift thistle
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If you wait another week reddit will probably get it down even further

quiet flicker
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-.-

languid harbor
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im so deep at yama atm i dont wanna go do other content ugh

umbral cradle
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can contract yama be defence reduced?

vast quarry
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ive missed like 16 warhammers

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so idk

azure laurel
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Warhammer is trolling surely?

quiet flicker
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That happens on normal yama too

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😭

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Need horn if ur not bgsing

atomic surge
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started at 1:45

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full afk

winter seal
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u started 10 seconds ago?

atomic surge
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on login timer

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gonna see how it is now

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apparently it was only ever 3xd by doing it the 'right way'

radiant pendant
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Of course…. I opened all my dossiers last night b4 bed coolcry

wicked comet
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same glorp

winter seal
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kept mine thankfully,. didn't trust no jagex

devout coyote
vast quarry
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yeah got a glyphic attenutation (special attack) from a dstone bolt proc

umbral cradle
winter seal
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5 buy limit KEKL

atomic surge
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if you need help with limit come 347ge

umbral cradle
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ohhh

atomic surge
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limit is 5

umbral cradle
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can you sell me some forfeits

atomic surge
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those jawns are like 3m? and probably crash to 1m

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sure come by hm u want

azure laurel
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Iron man learning about ge limitsclueless

atomic surge
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id buy as few as possible tbh

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they are already 2m

umbral cradle
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can i get 5 pls

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how much do u want per

atomic surge
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whatever it costs me

umbral cradle
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😳

wicked comet
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15m per businejj

umbral cradle
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im at the ge here

atomic surge
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hmm

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I too may ge limited one sec

umbral cradle
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i can check my alts

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nw

atomic surge
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nah

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i have alts

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logging in now

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is 2m e ok if i pay that high

umbral cradle
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yea whatever it costs

atomic surge
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ok 10m

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trade bulli

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north

umbral cradle
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pls no bulli

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ty

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trading monkaOMEGA

atomic surge
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did I get fucking pranked lmfao

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i only one got one of them

surreal rock
# misty marlin There's a duo tile vid in the v2 description, I found I was still getting hit wh...

If you're just going to duo, then you don't need my tiles, you can just use original donofly which is fine. However, if you occasionally solo and you don't want to have to switch between tile sets, you can do this
Note:

  1. There is a subtle dodge at 0:35 if you fail to kill before Void Flares spawn that the non-host has to do
  2. If host dies and...
▶ Play video
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move tile 2, do old tile 4 and run south instead of waiting

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old tile 4 after walls

umbral cradle
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to be clear^^ that path is basically just a cope to use similar solo tiles

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it's not a full non-host solve

surreal rock
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yea it does work good enough though

umbral cradle
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can use old diagonal SE "2" tile to solve multi wave + non host diagonal

surreal rock
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I never had issues with this one unless duo dies

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if dps is that bad and you're not host you'll jsut have to mage

umbral cradle
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time to cook a new pattern, mutli waves are not on the regular 70t cycle it seems

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or at the very least, the first one just comes earlier

radiant pendant
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Watching gnome do these contracts, they seem really tuff

surreal rock
umbral cradle
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cooking time

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if those waves are irregular its gunna be gigadoomed

surreal rock
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maybe it's time to learn portfly

misty marlin
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Idm switching tiles sets but I want to keep them similar-ish

umbral cradle
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i think u mean south but yea

misty marlin
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yea south mb

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it's north for me because it's at top of screen 4Head

umbral cradle
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based

misty marlin
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my nylo team hates me

atomic surge
azure laurel
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Boss rooms*

umbral cradle
bleak moat
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Did you cook up a new gregdonowhateverfly method that quick?

azure laurel
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Man these tactics starting to sound like mw2 trick shots

umbral cradle
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can just mage it

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i also don't think a pattern would work? dunno

bleak moat
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fair enough

azure laurel
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Greg360claymorecanceldoubleYfly

umbral cradle
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the X's seem like they might randomize row

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for the intersection

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tips for anyone doing contracts

quaint stratus
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i swear noobtype is scything the stam one

bleak moat
azure laurel
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Here’s a rough draft feel free to improve

umbral cradle
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example clear of forfeit breath

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this one is pretty straightforward

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do you guys happen to know if all contracts have the randomized X intersection

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on P3

atomic surge
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or does it make a massive difference

umbral cradle
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its 2x run from stams

lone storm
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So anywhere it says Yama is no longer weak to demonbane, neither the orbs or Judge are weak either?

quartz glen
misty marlin
lone storm
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Everyone is rushing oathplate and no one is releasing guides on the most important contract: worm acquisition

misty marlin
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has anyone opened a dossier and gotten triple sigil contracts from it? the wiki says "Purifying Sigil Contracts drop 3 at a time." but black demons are only dropping one

royal anvil
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queen wind
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not sure if ie but dossier gave 3 contracts PogWOW

atomic surge
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and I will figure it out

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have gp just don't wanna buy all that

agile wolf
atomic surge
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no really please do

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fine i'll buy my own

quiet flicker
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as an iron can u smith oathplate

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and t hen use clog on it

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to get clog?

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i need to break down a chest

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for 450 lmao

atomic surge
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i don't think so

lament canopy
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no they were clear you have to get it as a drop for the clog

radiant sky
atomic surge
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Gray is only top 2% jerkmate and is jealous

sacred badge
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For reference Kangaroo goes by @radiant pendant now

radiant sky
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oh so he likes to post on 2 accs i guess?

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not sure what the proof was but it doesnt sound malicious at least

sacred badge
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Yeah and doesn't acknowledge anyone who brings it up now lol

radiant sky
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i mean if he enjoys doing it i guess i dont see a problem even if its a bit strange

sacred badge
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We just need answers

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Was the name sold? The account sold? Same person? Romantic couple sharing the account?

misty marlin
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"need" is a strong term lmfao

royal anvil
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r 1 of the contracts bugged? was watching gnome and he said it was bugged for void flares.

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acoustic lava
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what's the deal with your alt?

radiant sky
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this is starting to feel like bullying lol

surreal rock
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kek

radiant sky
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just let him do what he wants with his different accounts imo

surreal rock
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jerkmate 1% is goated though

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do I even want to google what that is

devout coyote
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the alt only exists for him to be a dumbass on

radiant sky
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really? the posts seem pretty innocent to me

surreal rock
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welp it is exactly what it sounds like lul

radiant sky
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just posting about yama and contracts

lament canopy
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ye it was kinda funny the first time but seems like a weird but harmless deal

radiant sky
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also need to normalize it for when ppl figure out all of my secret accounts

lament canopy
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im actually an elyas5 alt

radiant sky
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that was supposed to be a secret

lament canopy
umbral cradle
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@atomic surge can any of ur alts buy some glyphic attentuation

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😳

atomic surge
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Few mins

umbral cradle
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ill see if anyone at ge has

royal anvil
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they hotfixed the bloody blows contract lol

umbral cradle
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did something make it easy/hard?

royal anvil
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orbs were impossible to kill in time

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and u wouldnt max hit or whatever lol

ruby stump
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contract was straight up impossible before lmfao

umbral cradle
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port could find a way pepegamer

atomic surge
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Worm is rough

royal anvil
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someone actually brought up using "holy water" to 1 hit lol i didnt even know that was a thing but wouldve been kewl ngl

atomic surge
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Especially for a guaranteed below average drop

royal anvil
atomic surge
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Very

royal anvil
umbral cradle
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i bought 5 on an alt @atomic surge

ruby stump
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isnt worm/shard the same as the oathplate contract?

sacred badge
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And horn yes

ruby stump
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thats messed up lmao

royal anvil
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hm worms was it again?

ruby stump
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250 (?)

atomic surge
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I will be busy sorry

ruby stump
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yea its 250 lmfao

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not worth the effort AT all

sacred badge
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It's a practice orb

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It could give 0 worms and it would be just as valuable

royal anvil
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sudden ocean
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What are they cooking with the contract drops

misty marlin
sudden ocean
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better for the afk andys

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such a weird reward system

misty marlin
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since you get better rates offsigil now

full shuttle
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Wonder what all the people thinking these would be too easy when the details got released yesterday are up to now

misty marlin
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killing black demons to get more contracts

umbral cradle
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got any of those, glyph contracts?

radiant pendant
hard ledge
cobalt jungle
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Has anyone completed the oath plate one?

bleak moat
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It has the same terms as the other item ones, like worms and catalysts. It looks like a "no demonbane" clause was added today

dire smelt
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Any word on if/when contracts will get added to coffer?

atomic surge
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isnt the contract you get still reliant on the active sigil?

umbral cradle
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does any1 else never seem to get the heavy range ammo symbol

atomic surge
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I never get the bind one

devout coyote
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same

misty marlin
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I think you can only get what contract you finish the mob off with, sigils just increase rate

devout coyote
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have way less bind tracts and i swear the sigil is like twice as rare as the others

misty marlin
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so you should always be speccing to finish I think

vast quarry
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You must finish off a demon with one of the five finisher types to roll that specific contract. [Example: 2H Melee Weapon rolls for Bloodies Blows]

Lets ASSUME previous rates were 1/256
Finishing a demon off with a finisher will makes it 1/128
Finishing a demon off with the correct finisher for the shown glyph makes it 1/85.3

Finishing a demon off with any finisher during a red glyph results in 5x bonus

With a x2 and x5 bonus (for incorrect finisher + red glyph)
Finishing a demon off with a non-special attack finisher while the glyph is red makes it 1/25.6

With a x3 and x5 bonus (correct finisher - special attack + red glyph)
Finishing a demon off with a special-attack finisher while the glyph is red makes it 1/17.1

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this is how I interpreted their post

atomic surge
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wait what

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im so confused

vast quarry
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im pretty sure they fucked up their wording on the post

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and that's what they meant

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those arent real rates btw

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but it would make sense since there's a sure way to make all finishers happen 100% of the time EXCEPT for special attacks (scuffing)

umbral cradle
misty marlin
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from my understanding in practice:

  1. you can only get the contract associated with the weapon type you are using
  2. doing so on the correct sigil gives increased rates
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so if you needed to target farm bloodied blows, you'd just scythe on every sigil

vast quarry
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^ yup

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especially on red glyph

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for 5x increased chance

royal anvil
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can someone send the link with the most up to date solo method for donofly?

atomic surge
atomic surge
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I thought it was that you could only get the contract associated with the active sigil

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and you got a better rate if you did it properly

royal anvil
misty marlin
atomic surge
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interesting..

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and stupid...

misty marlin
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it's better though

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since you can choose what weapon you use buty not what sigil they have

vast quarry
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its been known u can get a diff contract on diff sigils though

misty marlin
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this is what allows target farming a specific contract

vast quarry
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ive gotten bloody blows before todays change

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when using melee on diff ones

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and have gotten the spec attack contract during the purple glyph

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(diamond bolt proc)

atomic surge
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ohhh

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I see

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maybe I am the stupid one ...

misty marlin
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it's confusing, but the simple explanation is the right one

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just kill them with the method associated with the contract you want if you want to target farm

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or with whatever glyph they have if you just want all contracts as fast as possible

atomic surge
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and the droprate will randomly fluctuate

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as I afk

misty marlin
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yeah. I think if you were tackling demons to get all contracts, you would also just camp lightbearer and spec as often as possible in order to try and get that one since you can't technically target farm it

atomic surge
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ice barrage

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is so pricy

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compared to undead grasp ngl

lone storm
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Ok so you have a chance of getting a contract by doing the correct finisher, and an even greater chance if that finisher corresponds to their mark

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But what on earth are they saying in the blog post

misty marlin
# lone storm

I think the line 2 is supposed to be a nerf to line 1, so that people who were actively farming all contracts are only getting a 6x rate instead of a 9x rate

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The "so players can more reasonably AFK them" should have been attached to the 3x by default though

atomic surge
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Man

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all that and it's still bad

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and they still want us afking demons

misty marlin
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Yup

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I did about 3h of demons and got 3-5 of each contract

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I think the dossier change in the hotfix will be good though

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1/12 to get a dossier, increased contract rate, and you get 3

devout coyote
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ive been going for about 2 and a half hours today and gotten 23

vast quarry
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make the demons drop 2 at a time and make contracts stackable

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then call it a day

ember mountain
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bonkers that contracts don't stack lol. it's fuckin paper wdym it doesn't stack

dire smelt
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It's demonic paper

radiant sky
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at least someone showing up with 0 kc might get enough from green log

atomic surge
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I don't know what the new rate from dossier actually is tbh

radiant sky
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they buffed it like crazy

atomic surge
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and solo/duo?

devout coyote
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greater demons

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ive gotten 3 more since i typed that even - i think the rates are quite good

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doesnt excuse the fact im made to be killing demons though

atomic surge
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I've been undead grasping greaters now 75kc with nothing

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i kinda expected them to just shit out contracts

devout coyote
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im largely following the sigils fwiw

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once i have a good base amt ill prob target farm to fill in the gaps

atomic surge
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I'm afking

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following sigils got me 0 of the stamina one

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so I am now "target farming" it

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as the kids say

dire smelt
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Is the move not black demons?

atomic surge
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blacks more droprate but also mroe hp

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and there is a really nice tile to afk greaters

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just auto retal the 3

devout coyote
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yeah i cant compare since i did black demons before today

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get hard clues a lot faster here though 🙂

misty marlin
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I got 20 contracts from 480 black demons, putting it about a 1/24 and that was always using correct sigil style

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what are today's estimated rates from greater demons?

devout coyote
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im averaging 1/30 over the last 800 kills

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usually ony sigil but def not all

royal anvil
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anyone wanna send some yama? pref a horn haver

steady temple
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Every time the dossier rate gets buffed the normal loot is getting worse no? Including oathplate shards & lockboxes, since they come after the dossier roll (according to the wiki)

atomic surge
old phoenix
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Someone did pet contract yet? Or got a video on it?

atomic surge
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clipper has failed it a bunch

old phoenix
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Is there videos about it? Or clips?

atomic surge
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he has vods

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Can anybody confirm that undead grasp works for the yellow star binding one?

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getting paranoid

devout coyote
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it does yeah

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havent killed them any other way and have gotten 4 today

deep pawn
atomic surge
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yes

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I'm 150 dry including a full assignment

winter seal
atomic surge
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I hope jagex arcane has a nice weekend

atomic surge
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I'm killing greaters but most assuredly not farming contracts

devout coyote
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i swear some feel more common than others

atomic surge
devout coyote
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heres my session data from today only

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34 in 1k

atomic surge
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600ish of these were prepatch

faint lily
devout coyote
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been logged in a bit under 4 hours

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im paying attention / not afk but also took breaks to eat and stuff

quiet flicker
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damn

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this is ognna hurt

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am i really gonna break down a 150m chest

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for 50 shards

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for not even a clog

#

🤔

split pagoda
#

yeah

quiet flicker
#

ty

winter seal
#

nah

quiet flicker
#

1-1

swift thistle
#

while they're still hot I'd sell, but I'm a broke bitch so

acoustic lava
#

gnomonkey is saying divine severance is impossible

atomic surge
#

Prediction 30k soul runes per oathplate piece to make it white

sudden ocean
#

Shut up

radiant sky
acoustic lava
#

idk

#

he claims the 3 orbs that spawn on p3 are impossible to clear

#

he seemed to give up quickly though so its possible he's missing something?

#

I just tuned in like 30 minutes ago

swift thistle
#

Common gnome L

#

I hope someone beats it
cuz then it's just his ego that can't beat it Giggle

dapper hollow
#

Port just gonna randomly drop the 5/5 tweet with no vods or tips

sudden ocean
#

Who's the closest
Last i checked was this morning when only noobtype was 1/5

acoustic lava
#

gnomonkey is 3/5

#

he's working on bloodied blows rn and claims divine severance is impossible

#

I think bb is the one that was bugged this morning?

sudden ocean
#

i read bloody blows ~~is/~~was impossible for the same reason

#

oh apparently bb got fixed

acoustic lava
#

ye that's why he's sending bb now

vast quarry
quiet flicker
#

for the no demonbane weakness contracts, would your first go to jsut be maging?

#

or is scythe better?

vast quarry
#

wtf shwax

#

u dont even know how to yama

swift thistle
#

how dare you

#

I did one scuffed solo

#

without tiles

vast quarry
#

king shit

stiff dagger
#

there might be rng on some kills that mean it spawns 2 > 1 rather than 3 > 0, so it might be possible

#

but there are at least some kills where it's impossible

grim meteor
#

i'm confused how people melee p3 yama in duos. some guides i've seen both of them stay on melee range and the other kills orbs. when i go with some random, they start running around the map in p3. some even bring full mage switch

#

how am i supposed to do p3 as melee? do i need to bring full mage switch?

grim meteor
#

too advanced method

#

to do with randoms i find in front of entrance

agile wolf
#

then gl vro

surreal rock
#

You can still run around

radiant sky
#

but if they're doing that you just say ty for kills and get someone else

radiant sky
#

you'd need to find ppl doing the same method tho which will be harder to find than donofly/mages

atomic surge
#

Is that even better than mage

radiant sky
#

no clue

#

melee p1 p2 and mage p3 is also somewhat popular so yeah could do that

#

also quite bad

dapper hollow
#

Dono is just easier than mage camp after 30 minutes of learning

#

Trying to dodge waves and fireball would be much harder

wraith summit
#

do we know if the non-kit contracts are still hard?

#

I've got an oathplate one but don't wanna lose it

faint lily
#

They are hard

#

But you can practice on the worm/aether contracts.

#

Which like still good luck getting enough practice in on those if you just are on iron. but can at least practice with cheap contracts on a main

vast quarry
#

any links on the oahtplate shard contract?

atomic surge
#

It's the same as the worm tract

#

Which is rough ngl

wraith summit
#

fuck me dude

#

guess I just hop on the "hope they nerf it" train

vast quarry
#

do u have a vod or video link of someone attempting/completing it wizzy?

misty marlin
#

250 worms = oathplate piece

atomic surge
#

It has hands

#

It's not as bad I think?

#

But a lil rough

median bobcat
#

250 worms is at least duo-able so that makes it like 2x easier but

atomic surge
#

If I get an oath plate contract I'll learn it

median bobcat
#

Yeah I’ve got a horn contract and not feeling good about it

atomic surge
#

Yeah mine was solo just to see what it was like

#

Bc the only ones worth doing are solo anyway...

wraith summit
#

the fact that you only get one shot at such an important contract is insane

#

if it was just "do a solo" that would be one thing

vast quarry
#

and piss easy duo

#

cus i got a shard one i wanna duo

atomic surge
#

Can you?

vast quarry
#

ye

atomic surge
#

And honestly I just blew up immediately duo wouldn't have really helped

#

I went in blind and said FUCK that

median bobcat
#

If you get ca task for completing duo then maybe worth for that

atomic surge
#

I'll learn it when I have an iron contract to do

vast quarry
#

guess ill wait for vods/vids on it

atomic surge
#

I think the stamina one will be easier to get and complete tbh

dapper hollow
acoustic lava
#

so gnomonkey did not try everything...

dapper hollow
#

4/5 on enrage of 5th boss

#

400hp

acoustic lava
#

and he's got it

tired ivy
acoustic lava
#

10k aether runes

compact vigil
#

that’s so hot

#

i want that shit

wicked comet
atomic surge
#

it was a duo what

#

that was the technology all along

dapper hollow
#

30k aether runes

#

thats 950 kc of duos lol

#

and 90rc req

atomic surge
#

that is just not true

dapper hollow
#

wym

atomic surge
#

like it's a lot but not that bad

tired ivy
#

I got 11k in 350

dapper hollow
#

u did solos

atomic surge
#

some and some

dapper hollow
quiet flicker
#

Wiat

#

Wait

#

Wiki says

dapper hollow
#

62.55 per kc in solo, half that for duo

atomic surge
#

oh...

#

thats not really ideal is it

#

like

quiet flicker
#

Oathplate shard tract is duoable?

atomic surge
#

you'll have almost none left

dapper hollow
#

yeah thats what im saying

#

u use 30k to make the armor

quiet flicker
#

Whats to stop irons from absusing that?

dapper hollow
#

so 1k kc, u need all of it

atomic surge
dapper hollow
#

u cant both use a contrac

quiet flicker
#

But if u have a main friend boost u

dapper hollow
#

1 person starts the fight

quiet flicker
#

For 8 contracts

atomic surge
#

you need to own the contracts

dapper hollow
#

you have to have the contract,

quiet flicker
#

Or can u not join others contracts

atomic surge
#

main cant pay them

quiet flicker
#

Ah lol

#

Thank god

median bobcat
#

Really don’t understand the whole arbitrary rune requirement for the upgrades like blorva, I didn’t even actually make blood torva because of the blood rune cash req but this is 1000x worse

winter seal
#

Jagex never fails to deliver
1.1k duos and I've git 31.8k aether runes

tired ivy
#

Blood runes are barely an inconvenience at the point that you have torva tbh

atomic surge
median bobcat
#

Yeah I mean at least blood runes are easy to make now but it just seems silly

sudden ocean
#

[x] MAKE AN ALT
[x] MAKE ALT GP
[x] BUY ALT GEAR
[x] BURN HUNDREDS OF CONTRACTS LEARNING
[x] FARM DOZENS OF CONTRACTS ON IRON
[x] FARM 30k AETHER CATALYST
[x] MANAGE TO CLEAR THE CHALLENGE
[x] SHITTY COSMETIC FOR NICHE ARMOUR

tired ivy
#

tbh you'll probably have more than enough for finishing

#

and I'm never gonna use one for anything in the game on the iron

#

so uh

atomic surge
#

well they are nice though

median bobcat
#

Like it’s not a huge deal to spend 24m on blorva on an iron but it’s not insignificant

atomic surge
#

30k would last a while if you didnt put them in the armor

tired ivy
atomic surge
#

I was using them on my main because I don't have toa pouch

tired ivy
#

I'll use them on the main because it's just money

#

but on the iron idk where i'd ever use em

slow vigil
#

I'm perpetually shocked at how common surge pots are and how rare aether catalysts are

#

like are they required anywhere? no, but I'd love the QOL of never uncharging shadow anywhere

atomic surge
#

I'm hoping they give in and let scar work

#

(don't want to rc 10k runes)

tired ivy
#

Think the only place I'd uncharge shadow in the current year is toa speeds tbh

tired ivy
#

but just used lots of catalyst

atomic surge
#

does it?

#

oh really

#

thats not so bad then

#

I thought it just didn't work

old phoenix
#

Im at 29.9k aether runes at 850 duo kills

tired ivy
atomic surge
#

that's not so bad

old phoenix
#

Its 1 catalyst for 1 rune, no?

tired ivy
#

Wouldn't be surprised if there's a buff because it's mildly annoying and people will complain

#

but idc either way much

atomic surge
#

balanced around not getting the 60x

#

but it's kinda bullshit that it doesn't work but sunfires do

slow vigil
tired ivy
#

I just dont bother with thralls for chill money colo

slow vigil
#

honestly fair take I respect it

dapper hollow
#

Scar works but it’s still 1:1 w catalyst yeah

misty marlin
#

well if I wanted to use aether runes anywhere fuck me if I also want to recolor my oathplate lol

#

I guess they intend for you to farm aether contact if you want any non token supply of runes on iron

tired ivy
#

or the boss

atomic surge
#

you still don't get very many aether contracts

#

add like 4k or 6k to whatever you get

sudden ocean
#

top tier prestige pvm armor that you can wear to show off that you can afk trash mobs and runecraft

slow vigil
#

so idk if I'm seeing it wrong, and it's a little hard to tell because of entity hider on death, but it looks like in widega's divine severance kill the orbs sometimes have 71 hp and sometimes have 83 hp

#

and unless there's some mechanic that lets magic do extra damage to the 83 hp ones, that requires nearly max mage to 1-shot

#

my setup is the minimum possible to hit 83 with augury

#

nope, pre hotfix this was his max, they just legit have that much hp

#

that's horrifying

#

I might be missing something obvious but is this the first piece of content that genuinely requires a specific item? (purging staff, in this case)

#

outside of obvious gimmicks (rock hammer, etc)

sudden ocean
#

oh yea i forgot about that part

#

the 1/500 item that's otherwise completely useless

#

is required for the flex armor

tired ivy
#

other than all the item cas sure

#

and it's just a cosmetic

slow vigil
#

I'm just kinda baffled jagex decided aether runes need a sink

#

how am I gonna enchant my bolts now

sudden ocean
tired ivy
#

they will require a single contract completion

#

any contract

slow vigil
#

I was kinda surprised by that when they said it, but I'm a full supporter of that decision now

tired ivy
#

"grind a synapse" is better than grinding a moons weapon or barrows item etc

slow vigil
#

yeah for sure, I'll grumble a bit when they add stuff like dragonbane huey, but CAs are CAs, don't really care if they have random-ass item reqs

#

it's the boss itself requiring it that's interesting, pretty sure this is the first time we've had a genuine "you must be this tall to ride" requirement.

agile wolf
#

Waiters win

quiet flicker
#

aam i safe

#

to drop over shards?

#

or do u need it for the cosmetic?

#

i just got legs

#

so thanks whoever said to wait it out

#

and not break down chest

#

lmao

runic obsidian
#

is there even any precedent for ornament kits requiring anything other than the kit itself

sudden ocean
#

blorva req 30k blood runes

runic obsidian
#

feels wrong to force people to use up a useful item just for a cosmetic

quiet flicker
#

wasnt it 30k aether?

#

oh

#

precedent

#

i see

sudden ocean
#

that was so well received they did us one better

atomic surge
agile wolf
tired ivy
#

i'd rather burn 30k aether than 60k bloods tbh

atomic surge
#

I am fully confident that if they make the contracts free, which I kinda think they will, I will get radiant eventually

#

something to work towards

#

I'd much rather they be free and on GM than not free so they can't be on GM

runic obsidian
#

did they actually say you will only need 1 contract completion for CAs

atomic surge
#

yes

runic obsidian
#

thats so dumb

atomic surge
#

yes

tired ivy
#

seems fine as is

atomic surge
#

I mean more as a mea culpa

#

and just bin it

slow vigil
#

change the 20 hp threshold to 30 and I'm with you in a heartbeat though

#

but hey I said similar things about awakened levi/vard so maybe I'll just eat my words who knows

tired ivy
#

Doesn't look any harder than vard/levi

#

and it's day 1

slow vigil
#

Yeah, I don't want to overjudge it too early

umbral cradle
#

some ppl might disagree with me, but p3 feels really hard to me in the glyphic attenuation contract, which is a direct consequence of not learning the 3t melee cycle

slow vigil
#

it just seems like the micromanagement of your HP to exactly fit between chance threshold + orb threshold, coupled with the flicks and dodges is a cut above the existing bosses

umbral cradle
#

it actually feels like you're forced to have the 3t method mastered, somehow

#

it's just a brick wall

#

im going to reg solos to learn 3t now

slow vigil
#

I haven't watched a ton of that enrage, is it possible to take it slow and steady, flinching basically?

#

like literally 7t your mace/scythe/whatever

umbral cradle
#

honestly, I don't think it's possible to take it slow and steady

#

you can barely get any attacks in, there's this shitstorm of randomized wave X rows and hourglasses to dodge, occassional void flare spawn, avoiding melees

#

~1150 HP

#

and ur low supplies from an absolute 10 minute slog of a p1-2

slow vigil
umbral cradle
#

so

#

to me, it feels easier at this point to just learn the 3t method

#

I'll have better dps and dodge more confidently

slow vigil
#

we wait for the kirby guide to be simplified so mere mortals (me) can follow it

umbral cradle
#

im looking at the red eye jedi video

#

which honestly is also very opaque

sudden ocean
#

red eye jedi guide is a bit simpler ye

slow vigil
#

oh does he have a nicer explanation

umbral cradle
#

but im just watching the full speed video at the end over and over

slow vigil
#

I'll check it out 😄

umbral cradle
#

its ridiculously confusing though

runic obsidian
#

red eye jedi the GOAT

umbral cradle
#

some insta reacts, some 2t waits, some 3t waits

#

there's some intuition based stuff looking at boss animation

#

wild

slow vigil
#

as a serial tick counter: fuck

umbral cradle
#

and im really concerned about this one point in the cycle

#

west pattern for vertical

#

im really really hoping from the randomized wave X's

#

that the one that stresses the west side will work out

#

there's only 3 possible rows for the X's correct?

#

or am i wrong

slow vigil
#

realistically if you're solid at the 3t method except for that edge case, I'd imagine just bailing when it happens then getting back into cycle is sufficient for a kc

umbral cradle
#

no I think u can adapt it

#

when you see the row

slow vigil
umbral cradle
#

here's a shitty little recording of his video

#

you see how he clicks 3 times to turn the corner and get in front of the wave intersection

#

that last click could be on any of those 3 rows

#

for the correct intersection

slow vigil
#

yeah that's absolutely doable

#

this tick might be scary though, if it's the east (?) X. The one shifted left

umbral cradle
#

wym

#

oh yea i see

#

that's what I was mentioning earlier

#

#1368632190723821729 message

#

we're on the same page

#

i wonder if he would get hit

slow vigil
#

dogshit drawing but

#

yeah

#

I see the worry now

umbral cradle
#

1167 hp despair no supplies despair

#

rapid prayer drain despair

slow vigil
#

is that the beginning of the phase

umbral cradle
#

yea

slow vigil
#

christ

#

just make a supply pile while an alt holds the instance

umbral cradle
#

ive gotten pretty decent at p1-p2

#

they are painful and stressful though lol

slow vigil
#

then yama killing you when you pick up supplies will be less painful than the boss fight

umbral cradle
#

i think i need to take more brews?

faint lily
#

The aether req is making me not even want to hope to get this kit in the future.

Goodbye to the stack you farmed getting full oathplate is kinda crazy

umbral cradle
#

LMAO

slow vigil
sudden ocean
#

might be a grind the kit and not apply it kind of angle

#

display it in the bank

slow vigil
#

banger bank tab icon

sudden ocean
#

fr

tired ivy
#

I will happily yeet all my runes tbh

sudden ocean
#

that makes one of us

faint lily
#

I mean makes it even more of a massive flex kit for irons. I could see reddit complaining enough that it gets changed to soul runes though

slow vigil
#

or, I dunno

#

3k aether

tired ivy
#

that's the only thing that would make me wait

umbral cradle
#

i think ive almost stared at the red eye clip enough times to try implementing this

faint lily
#

Or just souls + cosmics

slow vigil
#

30k blood for blorva was obnoxious enough as is

umbral cradle
#

i need to drill all the waits + hits into my head

tired ivy
#

because where tf are those runes ever relevant

#

or essential

quiet flicker
#

okay i dropped my shards

#

heres to hoping they dont do shit with them

#

🙏

umbral cradle
faint lily
#

Burning 30k of an extremely finite resource just sucks

umbral cradle
#

wait 30k doesnt even sound that bad

#

is that per piece or for all?

faint lily
#

For all

umbral cradle
#

thats not so bad

quiet flicker
#

is the aether 1:1? per combo rune?

umbral cradle
#

the 2k kc posted online was an exaggeration

slow vigil
#

don't forget aether catalysts got nerfed today

umbral cradle
#

ive done 99% duos too

umbral cradle
slow vigil
#

1/12 dossier pre-roll nerfs all drops further in the roll order

quiet flicker
#

it was like 400k rcxp/hr no?

slow vigil
#

we love hydra-style rolling instead of tertiaries

umbral cradle
#

wait so u just get fewer per hour now from yama?

slow vigil
#

yep

#

bc of the contract buff, you get less lockboxes, shards, and normal loot

umbral cradle
atomic surge
#

by a lot too, right?

slow vigil
#

yeah 1/16 -> 1/12 is super significant

#

and it was 1/20 before that IIRC

atomic surge
#

armor is unchanged

tired ivy
slow vigil
#

well I mean technically lockboxes existing make the armor rarer

#

but yeah thankfully armor rolls first

atomic surge
#

aether actually is

#

lil bit nerfed

#

if it was 30k by set before

#

that might not be ideal

slow vigil
#

if you trust Random Reddit Guy it looks like a 3.7% reduction in all post-dossier loot

#

which, y'know, not the end of the world

#

but still kinda sucks

#

totally avoidable by just doing tertiary drops

sudden ocean
#

on the bright side

you only need to spend 20k aether because torva helm is still better

#

you don't need to recolor the oathplate helm :3

slow vigil
#

until the next strength bonus upgrade/mob you need a lot of slash bonus to kill effectively

#

🙃

azure laurel
#

Hard to be a white knight with torva helm..

tired ivy
#

full set still good for some stuff like solo cm etc

azure laurel
#

Wasn’t full set bis at duke or something too?

runic obsidian
#

meta gonna be to recolor one piece to flex it and leave the other two uncolored

split pagoda
#

🌈

quiet flicker
#

t helm + oath plate legs is like meta everywhere no?

#

or is that just yama shit

quiet flicker
#

except slayer stuff i g

tired ivy
#

and solo cm

quiet flicker
#

dang

#

torva in a weird posistion

tired ivy
plain raft
#

super aids

quiet flicker
#

looks like the worm one

#

which is super cancer

#

actually funny that the worm one is the same thing xd

tired ivy
#

Can duo the worm one at least

quiet flicker
#

tru

plain raft
#

i think all the acquisition ones are the same, the uniques are solo only

tired ivy
#

What does "enhanced voidflare and enhanced incantation" actually mean in practice

plain raft
#

so i just saw gnomonkey try the worms one - it was spawning the p3 bombs in p1, the red voidflares along with the shaow flares

#

it genuinely looked more annoying than some of the recolor contracts

#

and it was leaving shadow pools on the ground, not sure what spawned them

tired ivy
#

ig for a guaranteed unique that's fair enough if it's hard

quiet flicker
#

but for 250 worms

#

lmao

#

even tho u can duo eh...

runic obsidian
#

oathplate/horn contracts being super hard would be pretty cool

plain raft
#

i would say it's absolutely insane for the others though lol, like shards and catalysts

atomic surge
runic obsidian
#

would be interesting if killing it consistently was like 100m/hr but only like a dozen people were good enough to do it

tired ivy
#

i mean if you could consistently do it now it would be uh 700m/hr

plain raft
quiet flicker
#

man

atomic surge
#

I think

quiet flicker
#

going for radiant is gonna be something..

plush shadow
#

cant imagine a hc going for bloodied blows

#

theres no saftey net

quiet flicker
#

gonna be an insaner achievement than hc gm

atomic surge
#

the first one doesn't look that bad? simple at least

#

very punishing though

quiet flicker
#

everyone seems to be struggling with bloodied bows

#

think its the ahrdeest

#

i have 3 contracts of each

#

damn

slow vigil
#

I sent a few worm acquisitions earlier

atomic surge
#

did you acquire any worms

slow vigil
#

shadow pools are from the p3 fireballs dropping

#

it's the middle tile they drop

#

it's uh

#

"fun"

quiet flicker
#

any completions?

slow vigil
#

duos aren't even obviously that much easier because 2x as many pools

#

they don't disappear between phases

quiet flicker
#

damn

slow vigil
tired ivy
#

The real purpose of the worm contracts is practice for the oathplate/horn ones x0r6ztGiggle

quiet flicker
#

true

#

lol

#

bruh if i saved my dossiers for 1 more day lol

#

i prob wouldnt have to target farm

slow vigil
#

my first and only solo worm attempt

#

rest were duos with a buddy, we tried purging staff camping

#

ofc before we knew yama wasn't a demon 🙂 🙂 🙂

quiet flicker
#

kek

#

wait?

#

i swear synq had a contract donee already

#

i didnt know he was 0/5 FeelsBadMan

plush shadow
compact vigil
#

hope he gets one

plush shadow
#

ft clouding

compact vigil
#

what’s clouding

plush shadow
#

the contract sensory clouding i think its called

compact vigil
#

ah

plush shadow
#

tbh i havint watched him all day but i think hes legit just been sending only that contract for 20+hours

quiet flicker
#

Would be cool if we get real time tracking next time a pvm challenge is presentend

plush shadow
#

maybe he tried other ones

quiet flicker
#

In game somewhere

#

Like of the top 10 or whatever

#

Cus jagex is only twitter posting streamed completions lmao

compact vigil
#

how many are done now

quiet flicker
#

No clue

#

Think gnome was 4th

#

And that was 2 hours ago or so

sudden ocean
#

so you can mine without a pickaxe in the oathplate mine if you tick manip with jim's wet cloth

#

good content

#

supposedly bypasses the mining level req too

agile wolf
#

reddit sanctioned tick manip

#

basically cheating bro

umbral cradle
#

yo i do not regret looking at the red eye 3t guide

#

i didnt really get much value out of the guide portion but just the clip at the end

#

almost just cleared glyphic attenuation p3 with no food

dapper hollow
agile wolf
#

people will look at it then ask for tick manip to be removed cuz the xp is too much

#

ive seen arguments that tick manip should be removed whenever it comes up in favor of just buffing xp rates globally by like 20-30%

quiet flicker
#

@umbral cradle hows ur log now sir

#

Got ur missing piece?

#

Or did u end up slaving at the mines

umbral cradle
#

practiced 3t on the main and completed Glyphic Attenuation 1st try on the iron

agile wolf
#

not even close

umbral cradle
#

0 contracts used kekw

quiet flicker
#

Greg gonna be first ironscaper with kit

umbral cradle
#

we'll see about that, probably not lol

#

the actual hard ones look mad hard

radiant sky
#

im sure someone in here has farmed out 100 contracts to be first

deep pawn
#

just gotta grind out full inq and im good to go 😄

radiant sky
#

i think thats the easiest contract so i wouldnt worry about gear for it lol

#

just use a couple more contracts if need be

#

id be a lot more worried about the hardest contracts that ppl have been spamming since release and not completed

quiet flicker
deep pawn
#

alot of those demons were pre buff btw so dont worry they are pretty fast to farm now

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especially the crush boss one, what do you guys think the play is for that one without inq, sunfire + sra?

quiet flicker
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Is scy on crush bad?

deep pawn
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yeah its probably scythe right, i forget thats a crush weapon lol

stiff dagger
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i calced assuming it has 80 crush defence (which is the slash defence it has in normal yama) and scy was v bad

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lance on crush was a lot better

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sra would beat that though p sure

wraith summit
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Scythe is bad yes

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The fights look kinda wack though

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Definitely a wait and see what happens angle

plush shadow
languid harbor
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finally got an oath piece 💀 💀 💀
is it worth staying for a second piece and crafting the last or just make legs and get out lol

red marlin
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Depends if you got fg, how far off torva you are/ if you got any torva/ what your first torva piece is

umbral cradle
languid harbor
surreal rock
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I have no torva yet so I'm gonna stay for 3rd oath

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Nex is way slower and I'd rather have to grind any torva than a specific piece

wise tulip
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Any clips of acquisition contracts being completed yet?

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Like the worm or oathplate ones