Yama - May 14

[dapper hollow]

thats less than a regular kill

and gives irons a way to farm those items and mains a way to repeat the fights for fun

[faint lily]

That would be cool for irons to actually have access to the rarer consumables

Worms aren't as much of an issue as the aether catalysts

[quartz glen]

Yo Greg- is there an easy way to get back into cycle if you mess this up at any point?

@umbral cradle

[viral quiver]

Is the tick manip method for mining infernal shale really ~10x faster than the afk method?

[umbral cradle]

Unfortunately I would say that getting back in cycle is a lot harder than staying in the cycle in the first place
Like for example say that you try to attack on-tick with Yama, and you even do it on the correct tile in the cycle where you are supposed to attack on-tick in relation to his 7t attack cycle
That still might be wrong, because you may have offset yourself in the 70t cycle for waves and jellies
Some mistakes are recoverable. For example, if you're 1t ahead or 1t behind, you can just delay a tick/skip a hit to fix that 1t difference. Even if you get meleed and a jelly spawns, I would say it's probably better to just tank the damage and let the boss heal than it is to break cycle and resort to maging.

The backup strat if all else fails is to run north to the "c" tile, which indicates the center of the room for the intersection of the waves, and do the regular maging method for remainder of kill.

Another option if boss is low HP is to dump dps specs and wing it to finish it off quickly.

[misty marlin]

+1 on just tanking the orb if you get meleed really early on, just fix the cycle by gaining a tick with a 4t Emberlight instead of 5t on the tile, tank the 25ish damage, and keep the cycle up

[vast quarry]

all 5 obtained now

will see what they say tomorrow

[quartz glen]

OK and if you are planning to duo a bunch, what do you recommend then? Because it looks like you said this only works for solo or the host

[umbral cradle]

If you're just going to duo, then you don't need my tiles, you can just use original donofly which is fine. However, if you occasionally solo and you don't want to have to switch between tile sets, you can do this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn-dyWV4ztw

[royal anvil]

b4 p3 in yama can i only step on 1 glyph to negate both orbs in p1/p2 or do i have to step on 2 since theres 2 lol

[south burrow]

can kill 1 and step on other

but yeah you need protection from both otherwise

[misty marlin]

You have to step on both, but be cautious if you're taking away the glyph for the next special as well

[royal anvil]

kk ty, probably not worth it then

[quartz glen]

I’ll be doing mostly duo so I guess I’ll learn Donofly. What is the guys YouTube channel called?

[umbral cradle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIQ9wN-Jcfk

that's the original video

[radiant sky]

it is worth doing in both duos and solos i think

in duos you will always have a glyph up to protect against the next special and in solos it comes up basically the exact tick you need it from my experience

[full shuttle]

Can you run your normal tiles as host on a duo without issue?

[umbral cradle]

yes, host can run it in duo without issue

and for non host, if you want to keep similar tiles to mine, you can do this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn-dyWV4ztw

[faint lily]

I'm coming back from vacation tomorrow and wanna learn a melee P3 method.

Do I have to have separate tiles for when I am host vs non host in duos?

If I do this I just click duo for duo and solo for solo?

What about my partner? Can they do whatever method they want I assume?

And would I ever be off tick with these tiles at the start?

I read a lot about being delayed coming out of judge

[sudden ocean]

check pins

[umbral cradle]

One important thing to know conceptually is that host vs. non-host get different "diagonal hourglasses" during P3, which is the only thing that stresses a given static method.

You asked a lot of questions - I think I can give you the best answer by turning the question back to you:

Do you want to do solo-only, duo-only, or a mix of the two?

[sudden ocean]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9nYVALA-Pg

we are currently watching

you need mark of darkness for the 3t emberlight? what the

[umbral cradle]

LOL no shot that's legendary

[sudden ocean]

explains why ive never gotten it to work

[swift thistle]

[balmy raft]

ok time but i swear I see my max hit way too often at yama... maybe mark of darkness gives u a chance to max or something?

[runic obsidian]

did people just discover that you can 3t melee today?

thats crazy

[balmy raft]

no

kirby just put out his guide on using it

[faint lily]

Mostly duo, but I'd prob do some solos when waiting for my duo to hop on.

If I have to have different tiles for duo that covers all 3 in 2 tile sets that would be okay. Just wouldn't want to have 3 different tiles

As in:

1. Duo host
2. Duo non host
3. Solo

I assume duo host and solo could use the same?

[umbral cradle]

you know I've been seeing my max a lot too, wtf?

[balmy raft]

plz memorize scythe tick fix spreadsheet if u want to duo with me plz and ty

[umbral cradle]

LMAO

good thing both duo partners can choose whichever method they want to use simultaneously with eachother

[umbral cradle]

duo host and solo are the same

[faint lily]

Makes sense intuitively

[umbral cradle]

@faint lily https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Bka-GJE6OM
this is my method that works really great for solo/host, and in the description I have linked an unlisted vid with a small modification for duo non-host that shows an example

[balmy raft]

i swear its a real thing

need a plugin that counts every time i max

[umbral cradle]

combat logger might cover you here

[swift thistle]

[balmy raft]

no way

[swift thistle]

I've been looking for something like that

[faint lily]

Thank you Greg, I'll have a watch. When I'm with my bro I'm usually hosting so that works best for me

[balmy raft]

they put details in osrs

[umbral cradle]

and ur duo partner non-host can use whatever method they want

could even be mage

[faint lily]

For full melee, I'm guessing additional mage switches outside of torm/occult aren't worth unless I have ward (f)/anc pieces?

[sudden ocean]

what am i missing here

37x2 = 74 does it not

[balmy raft]

120% demonbane vuln

oh

nvm

i think the void flares have 81 hp

[quiet flicker]

defo 71

on the last ones

the ones on p1 and p2 are 71+68

im p ssure

[sudden ocean]

i am hitting 50 on them

with kodai

62 with max mage switches

[split pagoda]

are u doing solos with kodai?

[rocky mango]

Might be a dumb question. You got mark of darkness active?

I see it in calc, nvm

[brave bronze]

Does purging have its own demonbane multiplier? Maybe the wiki % is combining staff and spell multipliers

50 seems low though

[misty marlin]

I wouldn't bother with anything more than occult/torm yea, even if you had ward(f) a 3 way mage switch with staff is enough to 2hit p1/p2 jellies and 1hit p3 jellies

[sudden ocean]

was just trying it out after the revelation that you need mark to be able to 3t ember

[forest lagoon]

what would qualify as a fast solo time

[brave bronze]

Probably 4 min?

[split pagoda]

seemed pretty miserable

[atomic surge]

120%

[forest island]

200% effectiveness makes the damage boost from mark of darkness twice as effective, which without purging staff means it’s a 50% boost instead of 25%

[sudden ocean]

it just says void flares take 200% damage from demonbane

i'm guessing that's wrong?

maybe means 120%

[umbral cradle]

lol inb4 one of the contracts is just reverse diagonals + long solo p3

RANDOM DIAGONALS

gotta cook the giga method

[forest island]

Yeah that phrasing is wrong

They have 200% demonbane vulnerability

Maybe the editor who wrote that thought because damage was doubled for purging staff that it applied uniformly

[atomic surge]

One of the contracts is that every phase is p3

Can't wait

[runic obsidian]

all they need to do to make all the butterfly methods useless is change up the attack timings by a bit

which i assume they'll do for at least some of the contracts

[atomic surge]

that would be cancerboring

mage snoozer

maybe one of them his stats will change and you have to range him 🤔

[runic obsidian]

well im sure they would make the fight harder in other ways too

[umbral cradle]

they could buff stats to make mage not work

[compact vigil]

fight is painfully boring already lol

it’s basically gwd intensity

the duo aspect is effectively nonexistent

[sudden ocean]

who's gonna make the molgoatnotdonofly sim

[umbral cradle]

lmfao

do not do no fly

[sudden ocean]

molgoatdonotfly

[misty marlin]

kirby air ride is very hard to learn

[cobalt jungle]

whats the most recent donofly without stalling on tiles?

[sudden ocean]

pins

[misty marlin]

does kirby mention how many ticks you gain with each cycle in the 3t melee guide

because you kinda lose some ticks sometimes so I'm wondering if it's even that much better than just a regular fly

[atomic surge]

kirby's air ride lmao

[sudden ocean]

it seems with good rng (good start spawn, vertical or horizontal line first i forget which) the cycle can be tick lossless

the "ultra god cycle"

[atomic surge]

I tune into his video and he has a nally and a voidwaker

what in tarnation

[sudden ocean]

i will not be learning the nally method

[atomic surge]

what if I call it a nalberd instead

[sudden ocean]

that will not affect my decision one way or the other

[tired ivy]

I've been enjoying the melee kills in small doses

Just glad it's not a 200 hr grind

[sudden ocean]

gnoxious gnalberd

[atomic surge]

I'm at the point that I am pissed at the time padding

p1 and p2 are like pre enrage wardens

just too much hp afk doing nothing

yes I know you can do the red x thing to save 12 damage per kill yes I know you can do stepbacks

[sudden ocean]

good boss for yapping with the guys in vc

as long as someone calls out "lock in" for p3

[misty marlin]

horn alt just does horn and then maul right

and then do I bring dclaws or bclaws or sgs or some mix on iron

[misty marlin]

I wonder if there is potential to improve fly methods with the 1t save from static diagonal fireballs while still being a consistent forcable cycle

[quiet flicker]

ye horn into maul, i just bring bclaws

i think claws are bugged rn anyways

no idea if dclaws are better once they fix them

[umbral cradle]

when i was messing with the pattern i saw some spots where I could make the diagonal 3t proc happen

seems really difficult to fit in tho

[misty marlin]

https://youtu.be/wd78CvTZkzU?si=qy3OvCwHBLo7nv7Q

looks like someone made it happen, haven't looked too critically at it

first impression is that he scythes a lot, so I'm curious if it's even more DPS since I thought ember was just better than scythe

[umbral cradle]

an expected scythe swing is barely better than an expected emberlight swing

[swift thistle]

am I missing something? that doesn't look like he's getting a lot of 3t in

[honest monolith]

I generally use the saved tick to scythe instead of emberlight, keeping me in the monofly cycle,

[sudden ocean]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG05xEhsnkY

[atomic surge]

I tried bclaws but prefer sgs

with sgs you just breakeven food

so nice

you also open with an sgs from the main 100% accurate

to heal the p3 chip

[radiant sky]

so what are the thoughts on the kirby method

i havent watched the vid yet but is it actually good?

did he somehow get higher dps than the port khazard method using just emberlight

[honest monolith]

he said in the video it saves about 6 seconds per kc in a duo or smth like that

[radiant sky]

wasnt that for one specific cycle when u got it back to back

or maybe he says it earlier, i kinda skipped through the start, not sure why that part is in the video

[honest monolith]

could have misspoke yeah cuz that isn't 6 seconds

[radiant sky]

man this video is terrible

if he just did 3x what red eye did in his video itd actually be a good video

[ruby stump]

I hope they dont just nerf melee on p3 because it wasnt their intended way of doing (akin to araxxor step under)

[stiff dagger]

I don't think it was an 'unintended' method really

they made it so if you're stood beside it 1t out of 7 then you get meleed and spawn orbs, but it's prayable against and there's a very neat way to kill the orbs

it's like verzik

[radiant sky]

pretty sure they knew at least melee flinching would be a thing

even a butterfly method was probably pretty predictable considering how it happened recently at sol

i would be shocked if they nerfed melee in any way considering how perfectly yama is set up to be killed in different ways depending on skill level

[ruby stump]

I agree

theyve really done a great job

[radiant sky]

they somehow managed to make it almost like toa where you can up the invocation level depending on skill like 5-6 different levels

[honest monolith]

melee is better than mage on purpose imo

I don't see why they'd want to nerf it cuz 1% of the playerbase is getting 4:30 solos

[radiant sky]

the most surprising thing about yama is that emberlight beats scythe tho

im happy to save my gp for pnm but it seems to go against all their previous ideas

[honest monolith]

they love their niche bis

[ruby stump]

I wouldnt be surprised if the same thing applies for Osto-Ayak

since its also a demonic boss

[wicked comet]

Oathplate Armour pieces can be broken down in the Ancient Forge inside the God Wars Dungeon for 50 Oathplate Shards.

[heady atlas]

[wicked comet]

https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/yama-the-calm-before-the-contract-storm?oldschool=1

[ruby stump]

wtf

[radiant sky]

the question i have is do you get regular loot ontop of contract loot

[ruby stump]

nope

[radiant sky]

so if you do the pet one are you destroying your loot

[ruby stump]

https://i.imgur.com/zvv3Aqp.png

only pet one gives normal loot

[radiant sky]

oh the pet one specifically lets you spam them okay

so bis way to do yama is only do pet contracts

[ruby stump]

pet contract prices in the bin

[red marlin]

I wonder how hard each will be

[radiant sky]

why they should skyrocket no?

[ruby stump]

if you do it succesfully you get the contract back lmao

[radiant sky]

the only viable way to do yama for a clogger should be throug those contracts

ye but the demand should be insane

unless its way slower even normal players will want to use them

[ruby stump]

yea but the demand will be way less than the supply

especially with the droprate increase

cause you'll only need a handful to incase u fail it

[radiant sky]

is the supply from lesser demons high or something?

[ruby stump]

they increased dr by 40% and made dossiers more common

[opal zealot]

should remove the tele scrolls from dossiers

[ruby stump]

1/20 -> 1/17

[radiant sky]

yeah but is that specific contract common from lesser demons

the dossier change should barely matter

[opal zealot]

makes death charge upgrade just ever so slightly easier to get I guess.

[radiant sky]

i dunno with 10x more likely pet i think the goto way to do yama will be through that contract and ppl for sure fail way more often than they get that contract from yama

ofc it also depends on the difficulty, im just assuming it wont be awakened levels of difficult

[ruby stump]

u can also run it duo so even if ur duo dies you can still close it out as a solo

[radiant sky]

either way id be shocked if pet contracts dont get expensive as fuck

[ruby stump]

but yea no conclusive data yet on the pet contract

in terms of drop rate

[radiant sky]

im for sure doing only pet contracts and paying my duo to ge them from now on if the boss is doable

[ruby stump]

my first drop was pet so ill just be selling the contracts ig

[ruby stump]

https://i.imgur.com/fwAbMrq.png familiar acquisition

lmao

[radiant sky]

fuck it im bonding up and buying mine

im gonna need a lot of those

[ruby stump]

[hasty hedge]

Is it just me or is the blog post hardly understandable

What are they changing

[radiant sky]

more fire runes

slightly more common dossiers

[carmine cove]

the tl;dr is at the top brother

click to expand

[radiant sky]

honestly biggest update is yama doesnt spawn in africa anymore

big

[hasty hedge]

Oh wait, I figured out what I didn't understand

[wicked comet]

yea was kinda annoying when he was at other side of arena

[hasty hedge]

My bad

[radiant sky]

although im gonna get baited so much cuz him spawning exactly in the middle is such a good tell for when its p3 if im not paying attention

[wicked comet]

that is also true

[hasty hedge]

You also get the contract back if you complete it so it might be in good supply too

As long as you don't die

[radiant sky]

ye but ppl will spam fail it

[honest monolith]

so annoying that there's still no real chance to get radplate on an iron without killing black demons

[radiant sky]

i got fucked anyway tho cuz there is a buy limit of 5

rip bozo

[honest monolith]

like literally what's the point

[hasty hedge]

Maybe they change it later lol

[ruby stump]

even more so for people without an alt

so youll need more contracts

[honest monolith]

yeah I think I can probably practice on the main w/ shitter gear but seeming like a wait angle

[faint lily]

Interesting they made the pet contract fairly common and it will be the hardest fight since it initially was meant to guarantee a pet

[ruby stump]

possible

since the recolour is split over 5 contracts

[faint lily]

Well they said in blog also that it is one of the most interesting fights

Hope they didn't split themselves thin too much with all these contracts. Should be fun to watch tomorrow though

[hasty hedge]

They said that the acquire contracts all have the same fight no?

So pet is not harder than oathplate (besides duo/solo vs solo hard req)

Or am I misunderstanding

[radiant sky]

we dont know yet

[surreal rock]

no they are different

I would assume they have small quirks

[radiant sky]

ah ye the fights are prob all different

but we dont know which is hardest

[vast quarry]

Glad to see I grinded contracts

That 1/17 boost at Yama was sooooo worth the wait

[surreal rock]

xd

I didn't wait

all I need is one of each contract surely

[vast quarry]

King shit right there

Yeah I got 2 of each but like 9 bloodied blows

So I guess I’ll be doing that one first lol

Yooo the dupes can be broken down

[surreal rock]

nah I'm definitely not that good lol

even with main practice I needed multiple orbs for most dt2 awakened bosses

[surreal rock]

oh damn

sad

[vast quarry]

Looks like the pet and kit ones get dropped again if u complete the contracted fight

Sound about right

[ruby stump]

ready to watch some streamers take on the kit fights

good content tomorrow

[hasty hedge]

Yes this

[stiff dagger]

the contracts look easy as hell XD

[radiant sky]

do we have any information about the pet and recolour contracts?

[vast quarry]

they do LMAO

forfeit breath

[radiant sky]

oh lmao

[agile wolf]

u think it will drain less with stamina pot

[vast quarry]

doubt but there's a spell to get stam back

with pray

ezpz

[agile wolf]

yea

[vast quarry]

no donofly maybe?

[honest monolith]

fastest radplate completion sub 1hr probably lmao

[vast quarry]

should just enable them now

if they plan to keep them the same

[radiant pendant]

Max cape spec bouta go crazy

Has anyone run the calcs on 2nd best weapon for melee at Yama? I assumed a lot of people guessed demonbane weaponry would be “turned off” for certain contracts

[stiff dagger]

shadow

scy probably best for melee

[radiant pendant]

Oh shit, forgot mage existed lol

[ruby stump]

Full graceful yama kill (WORLDS FIRST) (IM RANK 1)

come get ur youtube title content creators

[vast quarry]

dont like that some contracts buff you as well

like "enhanced special attacks"

no buffs, only debuffs please

[ruby stump]

https://i.imgur.com/W5kgVvS.png @radiant sky

holy cringe

gl farming this

[winter seal]

Jagex really doubling down on farming demons for contracts

[radiant pendant]

Sgs bouta skyrocket

[carmine cove]

im guessing they will make you rely on spec heals instead of food

hence the spec buff

[faint lily]

Get your bloodfury and sgs out

[ruby stump]

[radiant pendant]

I think the pet one is stupid imo. Ruins the prestige of actually earning the pet

[carmine cove]

huh

[ruby stump]

HUH

[stiff dagger]

surely sunfire >>> inq 🙏

[surreal rock]

ummmm

guys, the boss can move in p3 now???

[faint lily]

Dang, I'm going back to the delve blog and voting yes on the demonbane crush weapon

[surreal rock]

what

[ruby stump]

what are they cooking

[ruby stump]

??

gg

[surreal rock]

not always but he just did

[honest monolith]

bugged prolly

[surreal rock]

ye bug

[faint lily]

Surely a bug from the contracts?

[ruby stump]

hope they fix it before im off work

[surreal rock]

nooo I was gonna farm yama, I had a few hours

zzzz

[vast quarry]

prob due to that one contract

[radiant pendant]

Ask for more hours

[vast quarry]

that lets him "pursue" forever

[radiant pendant]

R all the contracts leaked or how r u guys finding some? Curious in the oath plate one

[vast quarry]

leaked, wiki updated most of them

[latent pike]

just read em ingame

[ruby stump]

just opened my 5 saved dossiers, 3x teleport, another dupe pet contract and shard contract

[vast quarry]

you got all your contracts?

[sacred badge]

https://old.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/1ksnhhu/yama_enrage_p3_is_broken/mtmtqfh/

[latent pike]

Nah, just meant there isn't a "leak"

only got like 2

[vast quarry]

o gotcha

was hoping we can grind them side by side tomorrow

[surreal rock]

this seems pretty easy? unless I'm missing something?

[radiant pendant]

I’m licking my lips at the Diabolic worms 🥰

[surreal rock]

well I guess depends how much damage it is through prayer but it can't be that bad

[faint lily]

Oathplate and horn seem to be the same

[vast quarry]

he can pursue forever

[latent pike]

nope sadly

[vast quarry]

meaning he prob pursues p3

so no donofly

[honest monolith]

yeah all these contracts seem like you'd probably mage yama

[faint lily]

To be fair, we have no idea what the "some of the restraints on yama's strength are removed"

Could be anything from increased accuracy/max hits to new mechanics.

[surreal rock]

ah I missed that

[radiant pendant]

I thought the restraints were the items listed ngl?

[ruby stump]

I wonder what enhanced incantations are

[vast quarry]

yeah the restraints are listed

because some of them straight up say he'll do more damage through prayer

or with specials

[civic epoch]

is it me or do most of the armor ones dont look that hard

[radiant pendant]

My toxic trait is thinking I could 1nd a lot of these

[vast quarry]

I can 1nd all of the non-pursue ones

piss easy

[ruby stump]

depends on what 'more' flares mean

[faint lily]

They don't seem that hard, but no idea what Yama strength increasing will be

[vast quarry]

prob means they spawn normally

but with multiple instead of 2

[civic epoch]

im definitely not potting on release but it looks like something even i could get done

[vast quarry]

if its 3, or even 4, then its easy

[faint lily]

If it's just max hits/accuracy they will be fairly easy I think

[ruby stump]

the crush one is a bit cringe im ngl

[vast quarry]

soulreaper axe my beloved..

[faint lily]

Ursine for 2,500 hp.....

[civic epoch]

lance crush

[vast quarry]

soulreaper might get insane buff from scaling

[ruby stump]

ill be sending the hasta on crush probably

[vast quarry]

ursine miht be good for spec tbh

20 free dmg at end

[faint lily]

We draining 5 prayer points per tick with full sunfire?

[sacred badge]

Flick sunfire body on for your attacks

[vast quarry]

bring sunfire swap for p3

then drink a ppot dose every like 4 hits

could even bring ur fally shield and set left click to restore prayer

assuming it'll be mega damage with SRA + Sunfire, p3 shouldnt last long

[ruby stump]

fally shield is a good one

[sacred badge]

Falador Shield, Prayer Regen pot, SGS

Maybe ancient mace first if you're a nerd

[ruby stump]

might as well if its for the contract

[vast quarry]

Glyphs protect you for less time, and are more punishing.
Yama is now weak to crush, and nothing else.
Challenger's prayer bonus affects their drain rate inversely.
Challenger's prayer bonus increases the damage they deal. 

       [Contract of Forfeit Breath]
Yama drains Challenger's stamina passively.
Yama drains Challenger's stamina on dealing damage.
Challenger loses upon reaching 0 stamina.
Yama is no longer weak to demonbane weaponry. 

       [Contract of Sensory Clouding]
Yama's attacks have increased prayer penetration.
Yama can pursue forever.
Voidflare explosions are lethal.
Challenger has 50% reduced attack range. 

       [Contract of Divine Severance]
Yama deactivates protection prayers on sight.
Yama no longer penetrates prayers.
Yama spawns Voidflares continuously
Voidflare explosions are lethal.
       
       [Contract of Bloodied Blows]
Voidflares are spawned in higher quantities
Voidflares are more resistant to attacks.
Both Yama & Challenger gain Wretched Strength.
Yama is no longer weak to demonbane weaponry. ```

[sudden ocean]

Divine severance is a flick angle I guess

Like the pre enrage phase of pnm

[vast quarry]

flick for glyphic also

[sudden ocean]

probably yeah, im wondering if prayer gear will be better than str gear

[vast quarry]

depends how it scales id assume

[quiet flicker]

Is update live rn?

[vast quarry]

contracts tomorrow

[quiet flicker]

What about the dossiers

Etc

Are those live now?

[sudden ocean]

does the "master of pacts" not know that a well written contract should be explicit and unable to be misinterpreted? dumbass.

[vast quarry]

ye 1/17 now

[quiet flicker]

And teh 50 oatholate shards

Fuck me btw

I dropped a dupe

[sudden ocean]

dossiers have been live since day 1 or do u mean the buffed drop rate

buffed drop rate is also live

[quiet flicker]

ye

Rate

[sudden ocean]

leaving tele scrolls as a common drop from them is wild

they really want us to farm black demons yahooooo

[quiet flicker]

Bruh

[ruby stump]

well no u need dossiers still

demons dont drop all contracts apparently?

[sudden ocean]

they only drop the roathplate ones i think

[ruby stump]

ah

[quiet flicker]

Shards or actual oatholate

?

[misty marlin]

anyone got a black demon farming setup

[sudden ocean]

cosmetic

roathplate, cumplate, etc

[vast quarry]

bring undead grasp/demonbane superior/deathcharge

[quiet flicker]

ohhhhh

from the 9 dossieers i saved

xd

i got scrolls 4x xd

[ruby stump]

3/5 were scrolls for me

[misty marlin]

dossiers have been 3/5 familiar for me

[ruby stump]

2/7 familiar

got 1 shard contract

rest all scrolls

[misty marlin]

feelsbadman

let me trade in pet contracts for a lockbox

[ruby stump]

https://i.imgur.com/BtU0Jmy.png lmao

youll be following my footsteps soon

[vast quarry]

awww yeah baby

[quiet flicker]

so uh

when are theey fixing yama

[winter seal]

P3 has been hotfixed if that's what u mean

[quiet flicker]

o cool ty

cool i got 4 purifying sigil drops

just from yama

[quiet flicker]

are those repeatable?

[vast quarry]

best practice you'll get

[quiet flicker]

or are they gonna be a 1 for 1

[vast quarry]

pet + sigil contracts will be given back on completion

[quiet flicker]

ok so if u fail gonna go farm again

i see

[vast quarry]

yeah its kinda shit

[ruby stump]

does that simulate the drain rate?

[vast quarry]

doubt it tbh

i plan on bringing a ton of pray swaps for p3

[ruby stump]

ancient sceptre swap for longer prayer

[atomic surge]

What

[plush shadow]

any ida what it means when contract says "yama can pursue forever"?

[atomic surge]

Like just now?

[vast quarry]

can follow u p3

assuming this since it was glitched for the last 90 mins

and he was doing just that in normal fights

[quiet flicker]

likee thee contracts

not the actual sigils lol

[plush shadow]

oh he can come melee u

[atomic surge]

As in since launch or this morning

[vast quarry]

told u farming contracts was worth it wizzy

[quiet flicker]

this morning

i saved my dossiers

[vast quarry]

he had 9 dossiers banked

[atomic surge]

All my dossiers have been familiar or teles

[ruby stump]

the pursue one u can just treat like zilyana surely

[vast quarry]

wonder if u can bind him

with scorcher

actually will prob be very easy lol

if u can bind hi mwith scorcher

just force spawn orbs, kill for spec

then bind him more

[ruby stump]

yea lmao

[quiet flicker]

4 teles 4 sigils lol

1 oathplate

shards

[surreal rock]

I got 7/9 scrolls lmfao

[ruby stump]

id have preferred a singular shard drop over the scrolls ngl

[ruby stump]

seems like we've all got the same experience

[sudden ocean]

im still a cope dossier saver

i doubt theyll change them further but like, why open them at this point

i dont even have any oathplate to recolor

[ruby stump]

[tired ivy]

Recolour is fuckugly anyways

[ruby stump]

i prefer it over regular oathplate ngl

[misty marlin]

yeah i went and starting killing demons but maybe i should go get some plate

[sudden ocean]

im def not killing demons til i have plate

thats insane that thats the intended method for the cosmetic

[ruby stump]

'easier' awakened orbs

[misty marlin]

jagex once again somehow cooking the worst system

[ruby stump]

well they technically werent lying

[misty marlin]

I feel like untradable contracts, solo only, oathplate kit contracts are repeatable and all else aren't would have been a decent system

[sudden ocean]

pet contract should have been untradable at least

tradable and repeatable is lol

[dire smelt]

As someone with the pet contract I think it's great the way it is

nvm it's the most common contract

[ruby stump]

mine went into death coffer

[dire smelt]

not a bad idea actually

[ruby stump]

alrdy have pet so

w/e

[misty marlin]

Actually rubs me really the wrong way, if they made oathplate kit contracts repeatable they could have made them awakened level encounters, these contracts read fairly easy. The difficulty in getting the kit is now on acquiring the contracts more than it is completing them I feel

[faint lily]

Aren't the oathplate contracts still going to be more expensive than orbs. This is ridiculous. Making it worse for irons and mains alike, good job jagex

[tired ivy]

Don't think it's worse for mains at all

You won't need 50-100 of them like you do for orbs

[misty marlin]

yeah and every joe schmoe can sit at black demons with purging staff and get 2m contract drops

[umbral cradle]

that was one on one particular rotation

he didn't say what the average timesave is across all of them

[vast quarry]

kill your demons cros

[winter seal]

It's baffling

[umbral cradle]

scything a lot might be good for the contract that takes away demonbane weakness

[vast quarry]

!!!

[faint lily]

Should we be killing black demons or lessers? Wiki doesn't have precise info, just has both at rare category

[vast quarry]

black demons/greaters imo

black demons for the ones you really want

then greaters for the ones u dont need much but still have a better chance at

anotha one

fwiw

lessers should only be done as "fast glyph swapping" if u need lesser demon champion scroll

until rates are released and proven otherwise

[faint lily]

Wiki says all 3 demon types drop the all 5 contracts I'm confused

[vast quarry]

all contracts drop very rarely
the glyph above the demons heads' indicate you have to finish off the demon in a specific manner (green glyph = kill with a spell from a spellbook)

doing so increases the rate of the correspeonding contract to that glyphs (sensory clouding for green glyph)

ive killed a bit at work and at home, and ive only had one contract that I wasnt going for based on glyphs

[winter seal]

on the good side the reddit thread is filled with dossier complaints

[sudden ocean]

thats a good shout for farming these actually

[quiet flicker]

ts pmo 🥀

[ruby stump]

frfr 💔 🥀

[icy copper]

? It didn't let me put mine after update

[faint lily]

But the lessers have glyphs too? So if they are the same rate as black demons, the just have less hp

[lament canopy]

iirc you could coffer if noted but not if unnoted

[faint lily]

No reason to not kill lessers if they are the same rate and drop all contracts

[icy copper]

Omg huge I got 2 and a pet ty

[dire smelt]

cant sacrifice anymore

[vast quarry]

no one knows the rates

but i'd assume black demons are better

would be very dumb of jagex to make lessers same rate as black demons

[faint lily]

Was already very dumb to make this system worse than orbs to begin with. I wouldn't put it behind them lol

[vast quarry]

i mean

"worse than orbs" is a big exaggeration from the community

it'd be worse if the contracts were as hard as awakened bosses

but it looks like 4/5 of them are piss easy big chilling

[misty marlin]

I'm just yapping, but like I would much rather have the kit be locked behind actually difficult fights rather than a black demon time sink

imagine if contracts were untradable, but the kit contracts were repeatable but actually difficult.

1. The player cannot run. All weapon attack ranges are set to 1. Yama's melee attacks are unaffected by melee prayer.
2. Yama normally lets you fight him 2-on-1 with a friend. Instead, you will fight 2 Yama's by yourself.
3. Yama now applies stacks of Doom, but his attacks no longer penetrate prayers. Void waves and Fire bombs happen throughout the entirety of the fight.
4. Glyphs protect you for less time, and are more punishing. Prayers are deactivated after one tick. Voidflare explosions are lethal. Off prayer hits deal significantly increased damage.
5. Yama has significantly increased health and his demonbane weakness is removed

that's just me throwing up some ideas, all of those feel like they would be more difficult and skill testing than current kit contracts, except maybe #5 but I'm not getting paid for this

[vast quarry]

there's one reason theyre tradeable and not repeatable

taxed moneysink

wake up sheeple

[sudden ocean]

2 yamas

[twilit parcel]

off to black demons i guess..

[radiant pendant]

Can someone sum up why contracts r better than awakener orbs, haven’t been reading this chat much since update!

[sudden ocean]

they're not

jagex played us for fools

[radiant pendant]

Ah kk ty lol

[faint lily]

They are worse

You won't even get enough on the way to greenlogging the boss to get 1 of each contract. You gotta target farm black demons for hours

[radiant pendant]

U guys think I should open up my dossiers or cope and hold off hoping for a buff

[sudden ocean]

I'm holding off cause there's no point opening them rn

Gotta wait for the bosses to be solved and prob wait to have at least one oath piece too

[honest monolith]

billy (cmb lvl 94) is really happy he gets to make money for two weeks before it's botted to shit

[atomic surge]

I had the self control to wait until today

No longer

Teles and dupe pet contract

[umbral cradle]

i like how some of the contracts return it to you

thats a good system

punished if ur bad rewarded if ur good

[harsh trellis]

Mm yes I love getting the transmog contract back on completion for my dupe oath sets

[vapid raptor]

boosters are gonna be eating good with ironmen who are afraid of the contracts

[radiant pendant]

I feel u shouldn’t be able to get dupes, or atleast for pet if u already have it

[umbral cradle]

er why?

the only way you get it back is if you're the one who uses the contract

but if you already have the pet ur not benefitting from that aspect

[devout coyote]

teles being in the dossier still is so fucking corny

[atomic surge]

I instabought 200m worth of teles yesterday

They were supposed to remove them from dossier

Sad!

[radiant pendant]

I feel it’s a troll drop if u already have the pet imo

[slow vigil]

What this tells me is that lessers are the same rate as black demons

death's coffer fodder for us at least

makes sense why you can get dupes

[umbral cradle]

can be useful if u want to experiment with the fight

maybe the base loot is buffed

would u prefer it to not return the contract instead?

[ruby stump]

makes me wonder if there'll be any potential contract duping going on with the sudden duo contracts

[cobalt jungle]

The oathplate and horn ones don't look too bad

And it looks like I can practice with the worm contract

[vast quarry]

what if jagex is gaslighting us

and u need to use the purfiying sigil on yama to fight him with ALL restrictions enabled

then u get the real kit

surely..

[sacred badge]

Called it

[umbral cradle]

do we have rates per-demon now?

[sacred badge]

.

[vast quarry]

waiting for proof

i hope lessers are same rate, cus faster

[slow vigil]

To be clear that message was a joke lol, look what it's replying to

[sacred badge]

Oh MB woke up and joined halfway through the conversation

[carmine cove]

whats the deal with your alt

[umbral cradle]

my friend zak pointed out that "wretched strength" is the name of the dharok set effect

Wretched Strength: The lower a player's remaining hitpoints are, the higher maximum hit the player can inflict with the set equipped. The full set, including Dharok's greataxe, must be equipped to yield the special effect.

[sacred badge]

Ooh

[umbral cradle]

@carmine oak 🐐

[undone sundial]

Idk if I missed it, but are all of the contracts repeatable if successful? Or is it only for the more common ones?

[carmine cove]

its in the newspost

iirc thats the pet contract and 5x oathplate kit

so only one of them is somewhat useful

[undone sundial]

Alright phew, I was worried that the shards, horn, or oathplate armor one was also repeatable lol

[slow vigil]

dharok is 7t, yama enrage is 7t, coincidence?

[atomic surge]

Kinda feel like I will be using shadow for all contracts besides the scythe crush meme one

[royal anvil]

same

[slow vigil]

keeping up with continuously spawning voidflares sounds awful

[odd bramble]

the contracts feel so bizarre just reading the contract terms

[slow vigil]

||especially because my alt doesn't have WGS done for purging staff for practice||

[odd bramble]

wonder if there's anything else to them

forfeit breath one feels like a total meme

[slow vigil]

yeah unless the drain rate is insane it's straight up just a normal mage yama

and if the drain rate is insane it's a normal mage yama but you bring stams and an explorer's ring

[odd bramble]

explorer's ring BIS 😭

[misty marlin]

more than that, if you can just click stams constantly idk how it's supposed to be that hard

[slow vigil]

fr

[odd bramble]

only way i can imagine it even kind of working is if the stamina drain from him hitting you off prayer is so high it basically just one shots you

[atomic surge]

Except for the sensory one which legit seems like a normal kill?

[slow vigil]

well thank god it's easy tbh because this is by far the most annoying one to farm

[odd bramble]

and at that point the stamina portion of the gimmick just seems superflous

[atomic surge]

Like do I have brain damage

[odd bramble]

i think it makes him move during p3?

[atomic surge]

Actually maybe the myopia means that p3 jellies are complete rng

[slow vigil]

yeah sensory is going to be fucked in p3

[atomic surge]

If they spawn in Narnia they will fuck up cycle

[slow vigil]

there's no cycle when he runs you down

[odd bramble]

probably why yama p3 was bugged this morning

[atomic surge]

Just get a good spawn lol

[odd bramble]

bc of the sensory clouding contract

[atomic surge]

Oh I thought 'pursue forever' meant he'd chase if you mage

[umbral cradle]

we've gotta cook one

[atomic surge]

Maybe it's both

[odd bramble]

it probably means both

yeah

[umbral cradle]

do we think this is just going to be like p1/p2

where we can only path towards you on certain ticks in his attack cycle

[atomic surge]

Solo melee p3 no move really fucking sucks btw

Theres not even any skill to it

It's just nonstop 3ways and 7t ember lights

Misery

[umbral cradle]

there's definitely skill to that

[slow vigil]

I wasn't even sure it'd be possible

like 'normal' melee p3 felt like it was a "duo or mage" kind of design angle

[atomic surge]

You can make progress

[umbral cradle]

wym by 7t emberlights lmao

[atomic surge]

It's just really ass

[atomic surge]

Every spawn you need to 3t staff spec then ember light once repeat

[umbral cradle]

are you talking about a contract

[atomic surge]

Solo melee p3 no move

[slow vigil]

no just normal-ass p3 where you tank melees

[atomic surge]

In general

[umbral cradle]

oh

[atomic surge]

But probably yes contract

[umbral cradle]

when you said "no move" i thought you were talking about regular yama when the boss doesn't move, since we were just taking about the contract that makes the boss move

i would have just described that as the face tank method

[atomic surge]

Maybe you can just tick perfect run away on the attack tick

Like p1 p2

[umbral cradle]

ill have a 7 tick timer running

[atomic surge]

Even just perma walk under would dodge most of the melee

Without metronome

[umbral cradle]

perma walk under?

isn't he able to melee you if you walk under the boss?

(pretty sure he is)

[slow vigil]

ya me too, I thought you get meleed if you're off-cycle running through him while flying

[misty marlin]

he def can melee you under him

it's just a 7t step back angle

[slow vigil]

what are the odds they changed the pet contract at all after making it 1/250 vs 1/1

like zero, right?

this just doesn't sound fun

[misty marlin]

yeah I'm not a flicking enthusiast, glad I won't have to tackle it

[odd bramble]

it's not designed to force flicks tbf, it's designed to force healing specs

[umbral cradle]

how do you do the special attack one, when wiki says: "It is possible to get a contract without following the preference as long as the finishing blow is met, but the drop rate will be lower."

[slow vigil]

ya the glyphs have buffs to SGS specs and such, that part sounds fun

[umbral cradle]

uhhh...

[odd bramble]

yeah, and the fact you awlays max vs the Voice

[umbral cradle]

but how do u continuously spec

[vast quarry]

wdym

[slow vigil]

whack -> spec -> repeat

[vast quarry]

every time I hit

i get spec

[odd bramble]

the constant flares is to give you death charge targets

[vast quarry]

if i miss and dont kill it

[odd bramble]

so you can sustain your healing specs

[vast quarry]

i attack a diff one then finish that one off

[slow vigil]

oh that is neat

[odd bramble]

I suspect the flares won't spawn insanely frequently, just enough to keep your Spec topped off

[umbral cradle]

i think ur making an assumption about how it works

[vast quarry]

think ur not understanding what I said

[umbral cradle]

so is the drop rate ruined on that other demon then?

do you make sure to avoid that one?

[vast quarry]

I'm using soulreaper axe spec to get this one

no lol

u need to just finish off the kill

[umbral cradle]

how are u sure that attacking another demon with non-spec doesn't ruin ur drop rate on the demon ur killing with spec

[vast quarry]

omg

bro

u finish them off with the spec

[umbral cradle]

so is this incorrect then:
"It is possible to get a contract without following the preference as long as the finishing blow is met, but the drop rate will be lower."

[vast quarry]

im gonna use fake numbers real quick

[slow vigil]

I would assume that "a special attack" vs "only special attacks" means it's just the killing blow

[vast quarry]

actually im lazy

no that's not incorrect

u just have a shit rate at getting them by default

like 1/3000 or something bad probably

I've had one contract drop that wasnt in correspondance with my current glyph

so it is possible to get them without having the glyph, just very rare

[slow vigil]

I think the contract page itself is the most illuminating

[umbral cradle]

Blue:

• Kill wrong weapon: 0% chance
• Kill with 2h only: full% chance
• Kill with wrong weapon, but finishing blow with 2h: less than full% chance

Red:

• Kill without any specials: 0% chance
• Kill with specials only: full% chance
• Kill with reg weapon, then finishing blow with spec: less than full% chance

that's what im articulating

[slow vigil]

ah I think that's a slight misinterpretation

[umbral cradle]

wiki should probably be changed then

[slow vigil]

I think when the wiki says "preference" in the part you quoted, it's talking about the glyph above their head

[umbral cradle]

yea

[slow vigil]

so read it as "the finishing blow is required, but off-preference the chance is lower"

[umbral cradle]

and there's a blue glyph for 2h, and a red glyph for special attack

[slow vigil]

this is why the page on the specific contracts is better I think

[umbral cradle]

It is **possible **to get a contract without following the preference as long as the finishing blow is met, but the drop rate will be lower.

that's the part im reading

[slow vigil]

yeah, and I think the key bit is the "without following the preference"

i.e. it's possible to get an off-glyph contract

as long as you use the finishing blow for that contract

[vast quarry]

fwiw

I had a red glyph active

[slow vigil]

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Contract_of_glyphic_attenuation see this page for example

[vast quarry]

and got the contract for a blue gyph

but I was using soulreaper axe spec for finishing kills, so maybe it counted as both 2h and special

[slow vigil]

To obtain this contract from the demons in the Chasm of Fire, the final blow must come from Special attacks (Bolt special attacks included). The drop rate will increase while the red sigil is active above their head. Players can speak to the Disciple of Yama outside the chasm to learn about which sigil is currently active.

[umbral cradle]

Different things are written on diff wiki pages, I think these are just guesses at how it works based on an interpretation of the blog post

oh well

So the SRA "spec" is counted as a special attack?

even tho it's not main special attack energy

[slow vigil]

yeah that's 100% true

they clarified that somewhere, I can't find where, it's not in a blog

maybe a reddit comment

[umbral cradle]

can prolly just do that and bclaws/dds

[vast quarry]

with this dialogue i'll just assume

final blow = needed for a chance at the contract

if the corresponding glyph is active to that final blow method = better chance

gonna go camp heavy ranged afk

ill let yall know if i get any off glyph

[umbral cradle]

[sacred badge]

It would be very funny if fang winds up being good at the "crush weak" Yama

[quartz glen]

What fly version is this considered?

And how often do jelly’s spawn in a duo if you’re doing this method

This still looks like the chillest duo

[vast quarry]

@umbral cradle @slow vigil

on a diff glyph

[sudden ocean]

get the kit, get some change selling the contract for the next guy who needs it, kinda nice i think

[vast quarry]

ok now im fucking confused

i got this using ranged

[umbral cradle]

[vast quarry]

that's the special attack one

and i havent been using cbow spec

(also idk if i procced a bolt spec and that counted?)

I'm on the spec attack glyph as well

[slow vigil]

so maybe there's a chance for doing the finishing blow and a chance for whatever the glyph is

and they stack?

[vast quarry]

either that or like

base chance for any contract when killing a demon
OR
base chance for a specific contract that corresponds to the active glyph

bonus chance for finishing in a specific manner
enhanced bonus chance for finishing in a specific manner + correct glyph

[devout coyote]

figuring out the mechanics of getting the contracts from demons is going to prove harder than the contracts themselves

[slow vigil]

lil overcooked when all of this is less fun than killing boss

better than orbs btw

[vast quarry]

worse to gather than orbs

but since the contracts seem very easy to do then its not bad tbf

weird game

[median bobcat]

Any Jedi nofly doers? He says it’s better dps than Dono/gregfly but seems to miss a lot of ticks in places as well

[plush shadow]

its the modfied tiles (monofly) i think concept is same regardless u can skip first hit to have easy acess to cycle

[median bobcat]

I like that it is easy to reset though

[quiet flicker]

the shards contract is ez no/

[radiant pendant]

Ye that’s fair, u guys bring up good points

[umbral cradle]

id like to see quantified how many ticks faster it is on average

if its like 3t saved per fight on average for all that focus :monkaw

[misty marlin]

Same, would so much rather a braindead static cycle if all I get for sweating Kirby air ride is 1 Emberlight hit over 40 seconds

[plush shadow]

if ur host u auto doge by contiuning cycle i think have to do a bit diffrent pathing still works if non host during jelly+firebombs

but u should be able to kill it pmuch everytime before jelly explodes

[sacred badge]

what's the deal with your alt?

[cobalt jungle]

I'm gonna have to bond up the main and quest it

So I can practice the worm contracts

Have a horn and oath contract ready to go on the iron

[quiet flicker]

wish yama would stall 1t longer in middle

on p2

so that u dont take forced 9s from first red spawns

sadge

[devout coyote]

scythe works for this right

just seems a little strange it isnt specifically listed alongside all the worse options

[languid harbor]

dont even got enough shards for a piece 💀 150+ solos also 😭

[stiff dagger]

Yeah it does, I've got 8 with it

[atomic surge]

Yes

[devout coyote]

word ty

[atomic surge]

I'm glad it gives no communication whether or not you did it correctly

[devout coyote]

only asked because it said the notes on the right are the "ideal method"

[atomic surge]

And they can drop either way

So you can't know for sure

[lament canopy]

the ideal method was written for noobs

[stiff dagger]

They can only drop if you use the right finishing blow

[atomic surge]

I'm gonna fix them later dw

[vast quarry]

got one earlier without doing that

was afking with ACB and got a special attack one (During special attack glyph)

unless bolt specs count

[stiff dagger]

I think someone mentioned zcb being buggy with it

So maybe acb too

[lament canopy]

i've heard this too, was kind of expecting drop rates today explaining it

[vast quarry]

jagex:
people don't understand how vestige rolls at dt2 bosses? okay we'll tell them right away!
also jagex:
we'll wait 2 weeks to clarify how obtaining contracts works

[stiff dagger]

At least for me it's been completely consistent for all ~30 contract drops I've got

[vast quarry]

finishing blow has been consistent for me

just the random drops ive gotten off-glyph have confused me

[stiff dagger]

Oh yeah that's consistent with what we know?

You can only get a contract consistent with your finishing blow, and the drop rate is higher on-glyph

You can still get them off-glyph for any given finishing blow

Just rarer

[carmine cove]

kinda unrelated but do they let you kill the demons off task now in the chasm or nah?

[vast quarry]

well just the fact I got one with ACB without speccing was weird

without the proper finishing blow

[stiff dagger]

That is weird

[stiff dagger]

Yeah

[carmine cove]

ah ok was gonna say

ty

[vast quarry]

im watching for any time I kill them with a bolt proc

and see if i get the drop

[lament canopy]

can you cannon there now too?

[carmine cove]

always could iirc

[vast quarry]

it's not confirmed afaik if cannon will count as heavy finish

but u can cannon in chasm

[lament canopy]

hm i thought it wasnt allowed previously but maybe im making things up

[stiff dagger]

It would make sense tbh, it seems related to the attack itself rather than the spec - e.g. purging staff spec doesn't work cause it just does a demonbane attack, I've not seen it happen before but I've not been using enchanted bolts so that would make sense

[vast quarry]

wonder if a finishing blows that overlap (soulreaper axe spec + 2h weapon) will roll both

or heavy ranged + spec (enchanted bolt spec)

maybe not because of that issue with the demonbane/spec attack but that could be a completely diff issue

[atomic surge]

Does it actually not work

[stiff dagger]

No one in our clan has had it work so far afaik

But we may have just all stopped trying cause one person said it didn't work 😄

Never know

[umbral cradle]

what setups are you guys using for demon contract farming, and which demons are you killing?

[quiet flicker]

did anyone elses thrall outlinues stop working?

are these not the correct ID's anymore?

[swift thistle]

I've had weird instances where it's not working until I reload runelite

[quiet flicker]

weird

i see

ill try that ty

[misty marlin]

better NPC highlight breaks every update day

flick the plugin on and off or restart client

[umbral cradle]

yea Better NPC Highlight has been broken for a long time now and I don't think the developer is interested in fixing it

or he doesnt know how to fix it idk

locked and loaded lol

[quiet flicker]

what the heck is that

[umbral cradle]

im afking demons

so i got all the different killing opntions with me for when it switches

[atomic surge]

Grasp is so shit compared to barrage

Purge staff doesn't actually give % vs demons with magic

[old phoenix]

Just use scobo spec for binding, spam double dc and camp lb

[faint lily]

Yeah I think scobo spec should be plenty for binding

There's a wiki note that purging spec might not work for the special attack glyph because it fires a regular demonbane spell

Anyone here got anecdotal evidence to support that?

[old phoenix]

I've killed loads with purging staff spec never got the contract drop

[faint lily]

Lame

[slow vigil]

just spent a bunch of time levelling and doing a kingdom divided on an alt for contract practice

only to realize purging staff requires while guthix sleeps to own

you physically can't hit 70 damage with kodai, even max mage + augury lmao

well at least now I've got a horn/mauler

[quiet flicker]

oh i see

crazily weird meta

where demons became 10m/hr

but ye

i guess its better tha ndt2 was

[radiant pendant]

How much help does the horn/mauler do for solos kills?

[umbral cradle]

a lot

[sudden ocean]

What we thinking for the contract where yama always chases you

No donofly but surely no jedi/air ride either

Or at least it would be harder to do those

[sacred badge]

it would be funny if scobo spec gets used for it but that sounds like a huge dps loss

[surreal rock]

You can freeze I think

[sudden ocean]

worst case could try that and kiting with shadow

[umbral cradle]

can just do step-back

get 7t timer on ur screen

doesn't sound too bad

[sudden ocean]

i need to get the Fireball Fundamentals from the kirby vid down

need someone to carry me thru p1 and p2 cause i keep dying and having to reset

[atomic surge]

You physically cannot afk a full ember light before awakened is out

Even if you wanted to

[slow vigil]

I was less worried about the emberlight, perfectly happy to do less dps in practice (it's preferable tbh) but not being able to 1-shot the void flares without purging staff is probably a nonstarter

[atomic surge]

I got them bc I was worried it might be mandatory

But I might also just leave it as arc light for practice

[faint lily]

@umbral cradle When duoing with the modification, is it possible that someone in the duo gets delayed a tick after judge for greg surf V2 and cant get into the cycle?

[misty marlin]

afaik any fly method can get a delay in duo. if you get hit as the delayed guy, just catch up by making the 5t Emberlight hit a 4t one instead, and probably tank the orb imo

if you notice you're delayed you can run to tile 1 and instead of hitting, and just try and sync up there

[atomic surge]

sunlight cbow or acb

[vast quarry]

so ready for tomorrow

5 (at least) of each contract now

[atomic surge]

blacks or lessers?

I am exceedingly close to giving up and waiting

[tired ivy]

5 of each?

[atomic surge]

damen post an absolutely cracked log to motivate me asap please

[tired ivy]

how long did that take

[atomic surge]

ok I give up

I'm just not doing this bullshit until buff

[vast quarry]

been grinding today and lasrt 2 days

[tired ivy]

[vast quarry]

think blue and green gonna be the ones u want multiple of

other 3 gonna be one and done potential

also that's 2 days of worse rates

wait i lied

its the glyphic attentuation one and green one

greater demons goated

[tired ivy]

I got 2 gylphic and 1 green and none of the others

but no oathplate anyways

[icy copper]

can not coffer noted contracts lies

[atomic surge]

you like greaters?

[vast quarry]

ye this spot is big chill

[atomic surge]

no sra

does it eventually time out

if i just kill em

[vast quarry]

the glyph?

[atomic surge]

es

yes

o i got one

[vast quarry]

yeah regardles of how u kill them it has a chance to swap glyphs after 32nd kill (for every kill after)

isnt that the spec one

[atomic surge]

yes

[vast quarry]

did u spec it or nah

[atomic surge]

probably should be on the dds

and not the claws

bclaws

[vast quarry]

o gotcha

wish the spec for purgin worked for that

its actually so easy to get spec finishes with it since u can use lower lvl demonbane as the hp goes down

but just doesnt give contracts lol

[atomic surge]

i feel like this is very obviously designed for purge

[vast quarry]

yeah it is

im surprised it wasnt even brought up as a glitch from them

think they really dropped the ball on keeping an eye on contract complaints (but then again not many people were doing them at day 1/2/3)

[atomic surge]

im not too fussed about hp because i dont spec every kill anyway

not many ppots in this inv

do you have an inv that isnt all swithces

[sudden ocean]

so how do the glyphs work, do they have to appear on spawn? i.e. kill demons without glyphs and hope one spawns?

or does it just randomly appear on demons

[atomic surge]

one is always active