empty jackal
I think demonics take first priority for tort+anguish but wondering how to prioritize TDs/Zammy. I'm nervous about ancient shard upkeep so would like to prioritize TDs (to help with Demonics too), but I need ZHasta for TOA (although I do have a salad blade).
If I get a greater demons task, should I focus on Zammy or TDs first? Is it OK to do Zammy before any zenytes?
Personally, I would like to do TDs until 1 synapse and get a zenyte or two before going to Zammy, but not sure if that's dumb. I'm lvl 75 slayer
ancient plume
Not sure where Demonics fit in here since theyre black demons, just do them on black demon tasks.
Idk if its the meta or not, but I did TDs until 1 synpase (got it on the first or second task) and then i continued to do TDs until I ran out of arclight charges. Did Kril for the remainder of the task, and then continued normal slayer to get more charges before heading back to TDs.
swift orchid
i personally priortized tds first till 2 synpases (but this is uncovnetional) but i feel like if ur strictly doing slayer then emberlight/scobo will be more impactful then tort/ang
also bclaws are a big thing
smoky chasm
I had already blocked black demons early in my slayer grind, so I just kept them blocked untill I had 2 synapse. I absolutly dupster demonic gorilas now
swift orchid
struggled with anient shards even when I was only doing tds adding demonics ontop of that wouldve been rough
empty jackal
Sounds like at least 1 synapse is a solid choice then
I want to get the extend greaters perk, but still working on points for slayer helm + completing my block list
swift orchid
kinda just depends on ur goals tbh if u wana do some early pvm then zenytes will be more useful
if ur doing strictly slayer ideally u just ice burst or barrage spam and zenytes wont be nearly as useful
native goblet
Id do zammy first
sullen zinc
doing tds first ended up with me having 90 slayer and 0 zammy kc. would not recommend
smoky chasm
doing tds first ended up with me having 90 slayer and 0 zammy kc. would not reco...
lmao and I thought I got unlucky getting to 87
native goblet
lmao and I thought I got unlucky getting to 87
Droprate for TDs alone is over 1m slayer xp. In context of a whole task list its more like 4m+, as an estimate (I did not calc it). For that reason I think TDs first is a bad idea
dusk rover
I'd also rather do zammy first for hasta, then go toa for fang . Scobo is mostly just qol/afk vs bowfa, the kills/hr difference is small. Also you need lb to do the scobo perma freeze method
swift orchid
^u could easily route hasta zammy is easy and drop rate is fast and dps of bowfa vs scobo is pretty similar
but i think having bclaws or vw pre toa is pretty big
1 black demon task would prob put u on rate
greater demon*
dull cairn
I'm approaching quadruple dry on TD's for burning claws. I definitely recommend Zammy first. Really nice to have that out of the way while I gradually max slayer off one monster. :p
Also, besides efficiency, Zammy is fun. TDs are not.
safe garnet
Would ask how many shards you currently have
Zammy for hasta isn't too bad with bowfa using door-altar. It's only like 1/128 drop rate. Yeah scobo makes zammy easier but it's really not a big deal imo. Hasta will help with slayer but doesn't help with TDs or demonics since you use arclight at both instead. Depending on if you are really limited on arclight charges or have an abundance might be something you consider in picking whether you prioritize one or mix in both. TDs are solid slayer exp but demonics have a better drop rate for zenytes (1/300) compared to the synapses at TDs (1/500). I had the exact same question that you've raised here on this thread and kind of feel now that it really depends on your circumstances rather than there being a cookie cutter answer
Personally i wouldn't avoid demonics because the 1/300 aren't too hard to get and torture and anguish are solid upgrades. If you're already very limited on shards and only target TDs there's a chance you won't get a synnapse anyways before you run out of charges. Prob could have gotten a zynete by then. Maybe if you get torture and anguish, then you could prioritize TDs regardless of shard count if you're really set on getting a synapse.
If you have a shit ton of charges sitting around, probably just do both as they come
boreal elbow
Droprate for TDs alone is over 1m slayer xp. In context of a whole task list its...
what's wrong with getting that much slayer xp at TD's? is it just because you lose out on superior chances?
swift orchid
think he stands with the idea of early toa rush(lb,fang)>most other things for slayer/preslayer
and zenytes being crucial first steps for that
along with hasta
empty jackal
Would ask how many shards you currently have
I used 15 shards on arclight already, have 6 in the bank. Also have 6 totems for Skotizo. So I might be close to 30 in total
Thanks for the advice everyone, lots to think about. I might get zhasta first before TDs and use my arclight charges on demonics
native goblet
what's wrong with getting that much slayer xp at TD's? is it just because you lo...
You lose out on the hasta, which is an important upgrade
empty jackal
Something's not working right at my trips to Zammy. Out of 20-30 trips, my best kill streak is 3. I get 2 if I'm lucky
Maybe because I don't have blood barrage
vale flame
You should get much longer trips than this, even with blood burst imo
Can you record a trip?
You could get 2-3 kill trips just face tanking the boss
fossil shuttle
Something's not working right at my trips to Zammy. Out of 20-30 trips, my best ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpBaKj5EJV0&ab_channel=QuickOSRS - this guide should help, got me up and running on zammy pretty quickly
i also divined for blood barrage and it wasnt that much hassle in the end and didnt impact my trips, still managed 20+
but i got spooned and only did a few trips so i mighta got lucky on supply drops idk
native goblet
It's very common to get low kill trips while learning. Once you learn the method your trip length will shoot way up
empty jackal
Can you record a trip?
I posted last night and got a lot of great advice from Shwax
#ironman-discussion message
It’s just taking me longer to learn than expected I think
There was a part of me that was worried that people recommending to go Zammy had something critical that I didn’t, like blood barrage or higher def levels. But it’s just a skill issue lol
vale flame
Blood barrage is a decent increase, helps you get to full quicker on minions. Sometimes burst can bad rng and you're very tight on time
fickle horizon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpBaKj5EJV0&ab_channel=QuickOSRS - this guide sh...
This video is dog shit
dusk rover
All the gechallengem copycats that don't even give credit, sad
fickle horizon
They never have the starting sequence either
fossil shuttle
This video is dog shit
i mean dog shit seems like an exaggeration, it worked perfectly for me - i didnt find a better one that was short, concise and to the point like this
fossil shuttle
They never have the starting sequence either
they do?
fossil shuttle
ok, well its a starting sequence tho and whether its correct or not food never becomes an issue anyway
if there's a better one, it'd be useful to see, altho im done with zammy and was just sharing that this guide worked a treat for me.
vale flame
That entry looks pretty bad
fickle horizon
vale flame
Idk why people copy gechallenge videos and just make them worse lol
fossil shuttle
https://youtu.be/FxZKRfc_O0M
how is this guide better and mine was "dog shit" XD
vale flame
Better detail, explained properly, doesnt give you a bad entry
fossil shuttle
no commentary, no tiles to import, also that fresh kill start is way more complicated
fickle horizon
because its the original creators video, has the entry method, and doenst have some idiot voicing over it
i guess its better for all the reasons u dont like
vale flame
So to clarify, commentary is what makes a guide good for you?
fickle horizon
fickle horizon
For those that want to import my Tile Markers into Runelite: https://pastebin.com/Nw4NVEPQ
fossil shuttle
?
fickle horizon
its in the video description xd
fossil shuttle
if its the same tiles as in their video then its just the "fresh kill" tiles?
theres no tiles for door to altar
just the start and finish which arent particularly helpful compared to the guide i linked, which make it painfully obvious when to hit at what point - very easy to follow
fickle horizon
??? it has every tile u need marked
fossil shuttle
dude
vale flame
I think he needs told when to attack
With a specific tile indicating he should attack now
vale flame
Apparently he does 
fossil shuttle
okay, so we want a guide that's really helpful, but we also dont want a guide that "tells you when to attack" because that'd be too easy surely??
like
come on lmao
and for the record, if OP has done 20-30 trips at 3 kill streaks best, then having tiles to mark when to attack probably would be very helpful.
empty jackal
@vale flame @fossil shuttle I don’t need markers telling me when to attack, I got that part down easy
I’m struggling more with minion management
I can get 5-10kc trips now so I think I’m slowly getting the hang of it
But yeah the rhythm of attacking the boss feels like the easy part
To be fair I did watch that guide when I started learning and it was helpful but yeah the entry kill is wrong and I don’t think you should mark attack tiles
fossil shuttle
Disagree about attack tiles, no reason not to do, but that's okay whatever works for you
