#What to do with extra mithril / adamant bars?

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balmy depot
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I know GF isn't really worth it. Is there anything specific that's efficient to craft? I have thousands of each bar, currently 78 smithing.

dawn ruin
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you could make a couple thousand addy bolts if you don't already have them as drops. but otherwise it's just platebodies for alchs

balmy depot
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Thank you for the reply, I assume you mean mithril platebodies?

dawn ruin
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ya those too. i was answering the question of how best to use the bars without really considering your smithing level

balmy depot
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Sounds good, thank you again!

molten coral
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how is 200k smithing per hour and tons of gold not worth it?

iron stirrup
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Because you can smith the platebodies, alch the platebodies while doing agility, and buy gold ore with the alch money from blast furnace for faster xp

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Assuming you don’t care about the time to make, is it worth to make dart tips with Mith/addy?

molten coral
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well not only can you get more exp per bar at GF, while getting more gold, you can get smiths outfit which can make the platebody method that much faster. its very free

iron stirrup
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That involves many hours of foundry that you could’ve gotten faster xp at blast furnace. This is the reason people don’t like foundry. You get more xp/bar but smithing platebodies is already not optimal. Optimally, I think you disregard any/most ore you get from pvm and just do faster money making methods to buy gold ore and do blast furnace that way. Pretty sure the UIM blast furnace gold ore method is like 350k/hour smithing xp and only 4gp/xp

molten coral
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well if the question is, what does someone do with extra mith/addy bars, GF is the strongest option. Which also lets gets you extra GP for gold ores AND the rewards from shop.

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I feel the only darts worth smithing are rune, which GF can get you the smithing level for that pretty decently

fresh crag
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making platebodies to alch and then buying gold ore with the money is the strongest option

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it's fine if you like GF but reality is BF gold is way better

fresh crag
idle vine
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You have to look at it through a time investment lense. The time it takes to get smithing xp from GF is greater than the time it takes to farm gold & dump that gold into gold bar smelting at BF.

molten coral
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OP is asking about extra bars laying around.

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no one is saying GF is better than Gold bars

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but GF is def better than platebodies from GP and EXP standpoint

idle vine
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It’s not better from an exp standpoint….

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Let me rephrase that, it’s not better from an exp/hour standpoint

molten coral
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GF has about 10x the exp per inventory (10addy/18mith). Platebodies reachs at about 31.2k gp per inventory which GF can also hit.

sand canyon
idle vine
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Let me try explaining differently since there seems to be confusion, option A is better than option B:

A) You use GF on all the bars, lets say this hypothetically takes 10 hours

B) You turn the bars into platebodies, alch them while doing something like agi training, invest that money into gold bars at BF & smelt them, lets say this takes 8 hours. If you have time leftover with option B (which you almost definitely will, someone correct me if I'm wrong I haven't done GF in ages), you can make earth bstaves & alch them (say for an hour hypothetically), & invest that gp into more gold, and continue smelting at BF for another hours to make it 10 hours vs 10 hours. Even if you don't multiskill while alching option B will still come out ahead.

fresh crag
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you're obsessing over how much value you get per bar processed while neglecting the time spent to process those bars

molten coral
fresh crag
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smithing mithril platebodies is also 200k xp/hr

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addy plates more

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and quite a lot more than 400k gp per hr

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the advantage of GF is getting more xp and gp per bar, but overall the value gained doesn't really make up for the far slower GP income

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not when GP can be directly converted into gold ore for much much faster XP

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(double ammo mould is nice though)

molten coral
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One way to look at it, 99 smithing from gold ore would cost him around 45.7M with 202,941 ores (ignoring coffer gp) at about 30.7 - 36.2 hrs (using OSRS Portal)

with GF taking about 56.6 hrs with 7930 addy bars and 14274 mith bars at (10 addy/18 mith ratio)

The time difference here is about roughly 40 percent but theres another aspect. The exp that hes gaining his actually preventing a lot of the gold costs from buying Gold ores. So view the smithing exp hes gaining as gold that he's saving from the blast furnace grind or any other grind that would cost gp.

Point being, he probably doesn't have these resources for either route. Extracting as much value from each resource is the play here. Yes he can blast furnace, but there are other gold sinks like construction and misc that might make this less available to him.

GF is not as fast GP wise but the 10x exp makes up for it in prevention of costs

Yes he can high alch plate bodies, but he would still need to shopscape Hundreds of thousands of Gold Ore 💀

fresh crag
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all of this is countered with "just make the money"

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that is the faster play in the end

limpid wraith
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I think the concept of opportunity cost is just foreign to this guy unfortunately

next dune
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If you want to use a blowpipe its a pretty important req to get at least rune or amethyst

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Also blast furnace is so fast that mithril isn't considered worth smelting. Turning bars into platebodies to alch is good, but ores into bars is not

next dune
next dune
dim kettle
iron stirrup
next dune
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Ah yeah, it's been done. The cash from plates is better

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Wait what do you mean don't care about time to make

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Anything is free if you're not counting the fact that you spend time on it

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Make some money (time doesn't count), spend it, get xp

iron stirrup
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Meaning I’d make the dart tips when playing other games, or just general mobile afk time. Once the tips are made they get made at sep or during herb runs

fiery flame
# molten coral One way to look at it, 99 smithing from gold ore would cost him around 45.7M wit...

so, doing gf with all these bars will be a net loss of ~1.5m (vs making platebodies), which means net gain is 44.2m for a 20 hour time loss. So all you're saving is a measly 2.4m/hr. Lategame effective gp rates are around 10m/hr which makes it definitely not worth it. This is assuming you have all the moulds from the start and have somehow all the bars banked already.
Calcing smithing xp as gold and time saved is good, you should do the same for smithing platebodies. Addy plates come out to ~210k/hr, mith plates come to 190k/hr.

junior gull
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I'm saving all my mith addy and rune for cannonballs for sailing. I have no idea how useful these new balls will be and that don't work for dwarf cannon

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I doubt this is worth just thought I'd mention it

balmy depot
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I didn't mean to start an argument 😅

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Thanks everyone! I'll be turning my bars into platebodies to alch while doing agility

tiny goblet
next dune
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On task vorkath is the easy answer.
Converting a bunch of pvm drops also qualifies, e.g. gems, pvm staves, addy and rune ore

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Sepulchre and zmi are this good as well

tiny goblet
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the effective 10m gp/hr for processing banked items feels like a bit deceitful since im guessing it assumes you acquire them in 0-time but vork zmi and sep are nice