I know stams have already lost a lot of their usefulness but with potential upcoming changes to run energy should we worry about MOGs at all?
#Should we bother making a lot of staminas anymore?
gusty anchor
valid flame
Nah, it's getting to be basically useless. I think you can prob push for basically all of 75-98.5 Agility to be done at Sepulchre... maybe worth doing around 600k XP force-spawning Ardy, which IIRC is like 550ish stams
You can dump those wherever you need to but it's prob mostly just for one-off things like pre-potting a few things here and there and also for Inferno etc.
tight charm
stams not useful for cox?
valid flame
Graceful is dead content and that will continue to be the case
Won't be true after the update in Jan, no
Anyone with high agility can do the rooms without stams due to the pools everywhere, and the run energy changes make stamless Olm possible. When people tested in beta worlds, they had to use Vile Vigour once on head phase and that was it
You can still take in a stam if you want but it will kinda be a wasted slot
minor cairn
u dont need stam for inferno after the rework
i potted mid start running like crazy on beta and did not drop below 60 stam
maybe only place u use it after rework is blast furnace lol
tight charm
these reworks actually coming?
gusty anchor
holy shit man..theyre actually implementing it like that?! That's kind of sad
ornate sage
high agility SHOULD be useful tbh
violet hill
@valid flame got any info on what it does for traditional rc?
Never got to try the beta*, but have a strong tendency to do lavas (thoroughly enjoy the method)
But been holding off since 99agil would make it 0 stam I was told? (Not 99agil yet)
Not that I'm pressed on stam lol
twin brook
we don't know when they'll implement the changes from last beta, if they keep what they showcased at all, there was a lot of feedback from then and they haven't talked about it much since
valid flame
i potted mid start running like crazy on beta and did not drop below 60 stam
Nice then yeah fully dead content. Make like 500 and save for random prepots
valid flame
these reworks actually coming?
Some Jmod said mid-Jan yea
Either Reddit or Twitter I forget
valid flame
holy shit man..theyre actually implementing it like that?! That's kind of sad
Good ROI from being 99 Agility instead of 70 Agility? I think it's a very good idea
Fk the people who are too lazy to skill
valid flame
<@463153771795447846> got any info on what it does for traditional rc?
Not sure, didn't look into it
twin brook
Either Reddit or Twitter I forget
endless conquest to find useful information from jagex
valid flame
Copying here for posterity
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potent lotus
maybe its still good for artefacts and some skilling meathods but ye for pvm it seems alot more minimal (havint played beta though)
icy remnant
Graceful is dead content and that will continue to be the case
Graceful will be good if it boosts mog rate and stams are relevant. Since you can sell the outfit back the break even point was very low to profit on buying it
Iirc like 600 mogs
valid flame
Right, but I think the latter part is what breaks the equation (the stams not being really relevant, even in a PVM setting)
icy remnant
I agree
cloud sable
I think i only use staminas at duke at this point
twin brook
Hell no
potent lotus
idk i remember seeing a chart showing it was like best xp or something for herb
but idk what that considered
was saying irits were like 90k xph and toadflax stams were like 145k
or something
twin brook
That probably assumes 0 time mogs from agi
Otherwise it's literally the slowest secondary
valid flame
idk i remember seeing a chart showing it was like best xp or something for herb
Nah nah it was basically if you already had the marks then making agi pots was 3rd best after torstols and toadflax
But gathering marks from scratch tanked it
Best bet for avantoes is fishing pots
It may be better to do super energies with the 2 alt method if you get like 4.1k secondaries/hr but dunno about that