#Emberlight/Duke

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spice flint
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Is it worth using the emberlight on duke , on wiki it stand under scythe .

But because its a 4 tick weapon i wanna know if its worth using and what is the best way to kill duke with a 4 tick weapon ?

sharp valve
spice flint
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Thank u

sturdy barn
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I'd get one before doing duke

drowsy solstice
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Get BGS, it's a very good investment. Good for ToA and ToB, team CoX, Vorkath (situational), Duke, etc.

spice flint
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I know i wanted to grind virtus first maybe go for bgs first , but what if i go crazy dry ?

sturdy barn
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You could also go crazy dry for virtus

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Bgs is the quicker grind and the bigger upgrade so I'd get that first

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Virtus makes no difference at bandos on the other hand

spice flint
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So bowfa bp enough without flicking

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Bandos

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Was thinking about at least 1 virtus piece tormented plus ancient icon staf

bold cargo
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Virtus isnt useful at bandos

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And it's very rare

sturdy barn
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Not sure what you would need to be able to do it without flicking minions

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I'd just flick minions

spice flint
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Im practicing now , was thinking virtus gonna give me longer trips , will try to flick them

sturdy barn
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nah definitely not

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once you know what you are doing you'll only really be limited by divine doses

drowsy solstice
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are you using shadow or something
cuz if not virtus does nothing for you

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it doesn't speed up the trip cuz you kill the boss with ranged
and it doesn't extend the trip either

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in fact it shortens the trip because you're wasting precious inv slots

spice flint
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Will let u know when i got the hilt 🦾

vital dirge
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emberlight spec is allegedly almost the same avg def reduction on duke as bgs

bold cargo
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yes but it rolls vs stab defense, making it very inaccurate on duke

vital dirge
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oh didnt expect it would be stab usually it goes off highest bonus but apparently that is right mb

cosmic sorrel
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It missed like 10 times a row for me when I tried it out, so BGS is still brought in. I would def main hand it the whole time just due to the accuracy on it. It's comparable to scythe imo.

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If you don't have a BGS, just attack twice starting off the kill and you'll be in cycle for 2 more 4 tick attacks before you're forced to 5t attack twice into the eye special.

drowsy solstice
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bgs is king 🫡

spice flint
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no hilt but ......

untold stag
spice flint
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Got blue moon as mage , only upgrade i can get for the grind is tormented

untold stag
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"Major" is probably overstating it, but it guarantees you start every kill with an overheal, which is very nice.

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Just the sceptre for autocasting and nothing else is more than enough.

spice flint
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Also no god cape? And i assume i need to kill mager then heal of ranger and mêlee?

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Did lots of attempts it all felt like it was not worth that why i was thinking fukit i go for virtus xd

untold stag
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Depends whether you've already got a Bandos & Zamorak item via boots and the blessing

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If you've only got Bandos, cover Zamorak w/ MA2 cape

untold stag
spice flint
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Im cheesing now with the cape and fury kinda weird how these 2 items help me and the kill are not to long

untold stag
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Ya, some people swear by Fury at Bandos instead of Anguish.
I think they're crazy but can't knock it if it works.

spice flint
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hope i get lucky on blood quartz now , already got burn claws from my td grind

rugged urchin
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speccing one or twice with a 6t puts you in a bad cycle with a 4t wep vs duke's attack cycle

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vw/bclaws/dclaws are all better esp since emberlight is already quite accurate at duke and therefore benefits less from defence drop

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hell if i had emberlight but none of those 3 i would even use dds instead

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you lose so many ticks starting with bgs specs

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with 4t you can spec twice before duke attacks which puts your attack late into his cycle and greatly minimizes tick loss with a 4t wep

sharp valve
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you lose ticks on eye with 5t anyway

untold stag
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Just get the hilt

rugged urchin
sharp valve
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2x bgs?

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or are we not doing da4

rugged urchin
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that puts your 1st emberlight hit at tick 16 which means you're attacking at 5t

sharp valve
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for 2t yes

rugged urchin
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since duke attacks on tick 5, 10, 15, etc

sharp valve
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then you have eye where you don't lose ticks

rugged urchin
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eye is on tick 30 so by that point you've lost several ticks

sharp valve
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2

rugged urchin
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or rather tick 35 IIRC cause its the attack after the 5th attack

spice flint
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yes im already planned out how i gonna do duke but i was curious about what if i only have spec energy for 1 do i just hit the second hit with bgs ?

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So 2 bgs opening is
1 bgs
2
3
4
5
6
7 stepback stomp
8 bgs
9
10
11
12 step stomp
13
14 arclight
15
16
17 step stomp

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^

spice flint
plain hollow
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If u do 1bgs u are same ticked for like 5 attacks until eye yes

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Only way to fix that is to do lb 2 bgs

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But surely u are not dds specing duke just because u'll miss some ticks

sturdy barn
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Da4 duke Verypoggers

untold stag
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Because that's gotta be worse than just hitting him with Emberlight

spice flint
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i got lb and use death charge but that wouldnt let me spec twice any kc right

sturdy barn
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just tele out to nardah each kill

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I might be wrong but I think it's better since you have the time until it awakens again anyways

sharp valve
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staying nets you ~3 more kph in my experience but uses significantly more supplies (via stams/vv), you already get 20+ kph w/ nardah tp and that was a tradeoff I was willing to make

sturdy barn
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makes sense

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I never tried it personally just heard it was good

plain hollow
sturdy barn
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oh, only 3 ticks hm

sharp valve
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is it only 3?

sturdy barn
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been a while since I did duke on my main

sharp valve
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feel like it's way more

plain hollow
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idk th eexact number its somewhere between 3-8

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i feel like i counted 3 and it always lined up though

sharp valve
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like you can get to first mushroom before he wakes up again

plain hollow
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yeah

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i mean like if u run straigh to mushroom

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u have 3 extra ticks after that or something

sharp valve
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oh yeah

plain hollow
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i like to time it so i can celastrus and pick mushroom first tick

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i think i usually count like 3 or 5

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its sort a feel thing idk kek

spice flint
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so i also need des amulet 4 ?

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u guys put me to work

spice flint
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when i do this and thieve blood shard i can do more vard kph then got the staff for bandos and then we get the hilt

spice flint
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got it , and finalty got dpick no blood shard sad