#New toa loadout after rebalance changes

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hearty star
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Im thinking about a new loadout after the rebalance. The first pic is what im currently bringing to toa, doing 355.
I've ancestral hat, and could go for Eternal boots since I have the stone from cerb. Also all imbued rings, but idk if I should bring any of these. All prayers unlocked, no lightbearer sadly

hearty cargo
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lmao at the infernal cape

runic niche
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  • hat boots useless without shadow
  • bowfa with tbow is very meh, if you have armour > crystal take tbow with that
  • divine scb with keris
  • you may need another 4t weapon to do 2-down with, idk if DDS pokes are enough
  • you may need additional melee swaps for your 2-down, idk what ur max hit thresh is
hearty star
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I take bowfa since is considerably better at obelisk and akkha, at akkha being in the range of 20% better, imma go calc it instead of spreading misinformation

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15% better at akkha and and 28% better at obelisk

runic niche
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should be using smelling salts not overloads

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but anyway I think fang might be better than pipe on obelisk

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and did you include BGS damage

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(which benefits pipe a lot on obelisk)

hearty star
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Bowfa beats fang with no bgs at a 4% better, not a huge deal honestly

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what value should i go for a bgs spec calc?

runic niche
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max bgs damage on obelisk is 40 I think

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should easily be able to hit 40 with 3 BGSes on avg

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check pipe bowfa fang

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My bet is bowfa will beat fang by more than 4% because bowfa benefits more

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Pipe benefits the most though

hearty star
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fang vs pipe | fang vs bowfa | pipe vs bowfa

runic niche
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looks like a fang angle to me

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I think when UFOs come out you swap from fang to pipe temporarily then back to fang or something

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youll have to do this as you get more masori pieces anyway since it will heavily benefit tbow

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ofc akkha will be slower unfortunately but wcyd

hearty star
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I could ditch bowfa for a 4t melee for a 2 down

runic niche
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idk what your DDS max / DDS spec max is rn

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and what your BGS max is rn

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if you have those numbers we could check

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if you can hit 46-46 spec with DDS and also 42 auto with DDS and uhhh 63 with BGS whack

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then what is that? like 6320 damage with 11 DDS specs?

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ah might be hard to get 11 specs without LB actually

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prob doable, just have to do 10 and then get the 11th near the end

hearty star
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I think i cant get 11 specs no?

runic niche
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wow (92 * 11 + 40 * 3 + 2 * 64) * 5 = 6300 exactly

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so you can do it but you need the 11 specs

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you can do it like this uhhhh

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  • 1st down: sip adren, 5x DDS spec, 1x BGS whack, DC puts you at 52.5
  • regen to 72.5 while tbowing part 2
  • 2nd down: 5x DDS spec, 3x DDS auto, 1x DDS spec, 1x BGS whack, DC puts you at 22.5 probably
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so you will get 1x BGS early on p3 but you will have to wait for 2nd BGS

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with LB you can get 2x BGS right away on p3 and have to wait for 3rd BGS

valid patrol
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Going to add to this. Was thinking about dropping occult for torm and adding fero too. I’m not at my computer so I can’t do cals but I think I’ll be able to 3 down core without bgs specs as well if I bring fero. I figured torm would make swaps a bit easier too. Thoughts?

hearty cargo
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idk what invo you are doing but you could bring both, drop the yellow, bring a few brews and less ppots

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wait you have a brew lol so you're not doing dehedro lol

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you could probably bring less supplies and be faster with what I said

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no yellow keris = more specs = faster kills = less restore use

runic niche
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that looks like yellow keris to me

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otherwise he'd prob not bring cuz of fang for kephri haha

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I think geoffs yoinked that setup from me but let me propose another one, sec

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this is the one I use now

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this is a 3-down setup so to make up for the lack of prayer I use NSH and haste instead of NHN

valid patrol
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I did yoink that from you and I’m about to yoink this one as well. Thank you 🤝

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runic niche
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Good luck! 🙂

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You will need Death Charge for that strat cuz otherwise 1st down into 2nd down won't give you enough regen
You can DC at any time during the down or even before it (the core won't take 1+ min)

frail idol
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this isn't exactly the type of advice you asked for, but in case you didn't know, there is a way to change the default background color in the inventory setups plugin

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so that you don't have the retina-burning red as the default

crisp arch
hearty star
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@runic niche I've run into a funny problem with my setup without bowfa my max hit is a 24 with a bp

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i cant 1 shot baba boulders

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unpotted that is

solar mango
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either dragon darts or learn with bowfa

hearty star
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Im not bringing bowfa since its not very usefull so idk if i should bring it back

runic niche
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Do you have keris?

hearty star
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yes sir

runic niche
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Then just don't brew

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Use keris to heal yourself and keep the ranged pot boost

solar mango
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prepot regular ranging pot

hearty star
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i was using a divine range pot

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yeah

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smart

runic niche
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Yeah it needs to be regular

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Well doesn't need to be but idk I mean finishing puzzle + 2nd boulders in < 4:40 is pretty tough lol

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(assuming 20 secs post-prepot to enter puzzle room)

hearty star
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i have the skill issue so i would rather just pre pot a normal range

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im literally 1 max hit off that sucks

runic niche
runic niche
hearty star
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oh

runic niche
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Pipe anguish assembler is 24 max with Rigour even with amethyst

solar mango
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with monkey room changes you never really take dmg in monkey room anymore which is nice

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no need to brew

runic niche
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You have to use dragon darts or wear 1 piece of masori if you want to be able to do it at 99

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Being even 1 level above 99 will give you the 25 max

hearty star
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yeah if i make silly mistakes i just keris

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3.5k dragon darts i never use them is toa a good place to use em?

runic niche
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I like using them there personally but it's up to you

solar mango
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you should profit iirc

runic niche
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As long as you don't die rollsafe

hearty star
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oh really

uncut fog
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Although ddarts probably good now

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Can camp rigour whole room and 1 shot everything