#Faster Toa runs

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unborn bramble
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Any advice to speed up my toa runs? running the 40 min timer and I typically end around 38/39 mins, a good run is around 36. I am admittedly mediocre at this content I would say. How fast should I be finishing my runs and any advice on how I can cut down on some time? Thanks

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I am running 400s as well

rough ice
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What invos?

unborn bramble
jaunty gale
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Probably turn off more overlords and turn on nhn

rough ice
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overlords off ancient haste off + nhn keeps u at 400 without those 2 annoying invos

unborn bramble
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Don't you usually want to have on a diet turned off if you run nhn?

verbal cosmos
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It’s not necessary with keris though you may find it to be a bit more difficult

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Assuming you have rigour I think around a 36 minute average is an achievable goal. Make sure you don’t spend much time messing with your supplies/inventory between boss rooms and try to do it during the chill parts of each boss while fighting.

rough ice
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no

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ive never ran with diet off

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well if u dont have keris id run it off

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but u have keris

unborn bramble
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Gotcha, nhn seems a little intimidating for me. Feel like I'll be cutting it close with prayer/restores

rough ice
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u will get used to it

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u can bring another brew if u want

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id drop tassets i dont think they give u a max

unborn bramble
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Yeah I should probably check that

verbal cosmos
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I would keep the tassets if you’re not going to use divines

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They give a max hit difference at 117 and 116

unborn bramble
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Yeah playing around with my switches rn without tassets, that also seems pretty annoying

verbal cosmos
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I’d recommend getting used to it

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It’s not often that a symmetrical switch is best

unborn bramble
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so use divine and drop tassets?

verbal cosmos
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I used divines but it may not be better to depending on how many times you repot at baba

left orchid
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You could probably get sub35 with nhn+ovl off+diet off

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Make sure to be on top of swarms at kephri and avoid using keris

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Adrenaline at the end of zebak so you get 4x spec for obelisk + zebak

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Bring more brews

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Uncharge your trident after baba to get deaths charge if you aren't already

sour niche
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With no vw, nhn, overlords and haste off I'm averaging 36ish with 3 downs. Supply wise bringing about the same as you and ending with 1-2 spare restores at the end. Bringing pretty much your exact load out except saeldor instead of vw

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Typical run has me yellow keris on 1x baba, 1-2x akkha, 1 wardens p1, 0-1 wardens p2

left orchid
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If you replace yellow keris with vw specs and brews/bandages you can easily shave a couple minutes off

mellow comet
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You won't be able to 3 down, that's my exact gear setup 1:1 and because you're missing avernic you need to bring feros and tassets for 51 max on Voidwaker

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Otherwise bgloves avernic tassets works fine

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Feros better value than tassets though

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TL;DR - bring feros, bring ultor, bring DDS, bring tent whip -- any of those options work

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Oh you can 3 down with like 2 BGS specs or something but idk that's kinda bad

left orchid
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Ah didn't know that, I happen to have a spooned avernic so I could do 3downs

calm mulch
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Bp on p2?

left orchid
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P3

calm mulch
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I take the same gear as OP, but with no tassets, no yellow, add torm.

Divine pot is an easy dps upgrade (assuming you have the herb lvl).

calm mulch
left orchid
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Oh, are you using adrenaline?

calm mulch
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Adren obelisk

left orchid
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Ah yeah makes sense

calm mulch
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So my first bgs spec is adren actually yeah

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Didn’t consider that

left orchid
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I adren end of zebak and it carries over to obelisk

calm mulch
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If I had tassets I would bring feros and wear torm when ranging

left orchid
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I could do 1 bgs spec at core though

calm mulch
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I had calced that at one point and torm+feros > b gloves+torm

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For overall time

left orchid
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I dont have feros but I bring torm+bgloves

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Do have tassets +avernic

calm mulch
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That’s what I bring too, bc fero doesn’t give me a max hit with no avernic no tassets

calm mulch
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51 max should 3 down with no specs

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50 max won’t though

left orchid
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No I don't bgs spec for core 😄

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Unless I miss a hit

calm mulch
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I considered bringing dds too, just to make the 3d more reclined lol

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I hate counting the hits and if I make 1 mistake it’s a 4th down

left orchid
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I think that's not a bad idea

calm mulch
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2 dds specs makes it so you can just vw whack the whole time, no counting

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No bgs either, that actually sounds nice

unborn bramble
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I also have ultor, anybody know if it’s worth dropping lb for ultor? Thanks for all the feedback, going to play around with the invos and gear setup

sour niche
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I feel like with vw lb is gonna be better

errant echo
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are you blowpiping swarms at kephri? that along with turning off more overlords was the biggest timesave for me

verbal cosmos
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ultor is better than lb on baba and kephri regardless of spec weapon

mellow comet
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The main win of LB is being able to get faster keris back for Akkha and also handling 2x keris on haste p1 for pre-shadow

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I'll prob entertain using ultor magus in the future

tidal hazel
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What's the flowchart on when to 2-down vs. 3-down? Running 400s with NHN, no yellow/no VW, ovl on.

deep arrow
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they are very similar in terms of purples/hr

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so generally you pick the one that fits you inventory/setup best

tidal hazel
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Good to hear for when I decide to troll and miss a tick.

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What are the highest value adrenaline uses? I tend to adren on first down which lets me 2-down and carries into BGS specs at the start of P3.

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My second is on P4 but it feels pretty low value with just BGS.

mellow comet
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It depends on what you have, like if you have a ZCB then adrenalining for Zebak and p4 is really high value

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Because you can land 2x 110 on Zebak, 2x 110 on obelisk (p1), and 110 105 or something ridiculous on p4