#Problems during 1.5t mining

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odd sedge
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This isn't just for daeyalt, it's really for other forms of 1.5t mining. I use a tick counter and i tend to do actions on the same 3 tick cycle, ive noticed that sometimes when i change rock position my guy goes into a fletching animation and it breaks the cycle so that doing the same 3 tick cycle doesn't give exp drops anymore. Is there a reason this happens? If so how do I fix it?

The only way i've found to fix it is to just click normally on a rock and let my guy reset. Thanks

subtle remnant
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Using an adamant pickaxe should reset your cycle automatically. As for getting out of cycle, you are messing the timing up somehow. The cycle is
Tick 1: fletch+move
Tick 2: click rock
Tick 3: wait or preclick log/knife

odd sedge
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ahh ok, i wonder if the dragon pickaxe has something to do with it

subtle remnant
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Yeah the dpick doesn't auto reset. Not sure if it interrupts the 3tick if you do it properly but there is no advantage to using a dpick when 3ticking

odd sedge
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ill try that out, im fairly certain my actions are consistent so it could be the pickaxe. That said if im still getting the same problems maybe something else is the problem. Thank you!

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Yep! That fixed the movment issue, thank you so much

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It was mainly moving from rock to rock that cause the desync

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like whenever it wasnt just adjacent rocks but rocks maybe 2 tiles apart

rustic briar
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Knife log when you're 1t away from the reaching the next pillar and you'll be in cycle

subtle remnant
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Yeah if you're doing gems you have to delay at a few points

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Same with sand when you return from the grinder

odd sedge
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Gotcha, yeah that works really well. Thanks guys! Cheers

sour finch
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Can confirm that dpick doesn't auto-reset
It's possible to be on the wrong tick all the time and constantly get no ore

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If I sense that I'm on the wrong tick I will click under myself and wait and reset
Although you can also reset in other ways

odd sedge
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and you reset by just waiting 5 ticks?

sour finch
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Just 1-2

odd sedge
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gotcha, thank you. Yeah addy pick solves the problem for places where pick variety doesnt matter, but if i wanna 1.5t something that does scale with pick, addy doesnt seem like the best choice anymore

sour finch
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Pick variety never matters with tick manipulation
Success% depends on mining level
Mining speed depends on pickaxe variety

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With 2t instead of 1.5t you are actually not tick manipulating so the addy pickaxe naturally sets the 4t cycle and you move to get 2 rolls = effectively 2t

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OTOH with 1.5t you manually set the 3t cycle with knife-log so any pickaxe works (and ofc you get 2 rolls since you move = effectively 1.5t)

sour finch
odd sedge
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Oh i see, thank you for breaking that down. I just realized different picks are just better because theyre faster tick cycles, leading to more ore, leading to more experience. What you're saying makes sense now, thank you very much. I was under the impression there was some inner success roll modifier with each pick

sour finch
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Axes do work like that (higher tier = higher success%) so it totally does make sense to think that picks work the same way!

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Axes basically do the opposite: all axes are 4t to chop, but success% varies with the tier. As a result, it's always best to use a dragon/infernal/crystal axe

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And knife-log similarly sets the cycle to 3t instead, so you can 2t at Fossil Island with any axe, and you can 1.5t at Fossil Island with any axe + knife-log, although dragon/infernal/crystal is best

olive creek
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But yea like they said addy pick will auto-fix

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Also dragon pickaxe doesn't cause getting out of cycle, it just doesn't auto-realign

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If i understood what you were asking earlier correctly

odd sedge
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Yep! Based on what parasailer said, theres no real benefit to mining with the dpick outside of using it for the special every minute so addy pick has just be an auto-resync which has been really nice. Just using the addy pick fixed the issues.

While i dont understand what's desynching me with the dragon pickaxe since im making sure that when i move to an adjacent square im doing it on the same 3 tick cycle - it's a bit of a moot point i guess

olive creek
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It just happens to everyone, more than likely you're knife-logging on tick 1 but not clicking quickly enough to also move on tick 1

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Can't be perfect all the time

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But yea it's for sure that you are messing it up, sorry to say 😛

odd sedge
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Yeah, I agree haha - glad the addy pick covers my mistakes

sour finch
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It won't auto-realign so if you accidentally drop a tick and fall out of cycle and then maintain a 3t cadence, you could potentially be in a situation where you constantly get no ores

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That's why it's important to cancel ASAP and reset

olive creek
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Yea i thought i saw mention of gems but just realized we're talking about 1.5t so your way's better lol

sour finch
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🫡

distant wharf
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Is there a difference between knife-log and herb-tar?

olive creek
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No besides the -1 inv space for herb tar

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Herb tar if inv space doesn't matter and you can bring backups in herb sack