Doing Zulrah before ToA | IronScape | Page 1

fickle rock Apr 1, 2024, 8:17 AM

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Hey there, hope I can get some advice on gear progression. I'm at the stage where I have bowfa/zenytes/bandos/hasta, and looking at Ladlor's gear progression V4, it recommends to do Voidwaker/ToA next, and wait for zulrah until you have occult. Which makes sense considering how big an upgrade the occult is.

However, many people online are saying that bowfa-only zulrah is the way to go and much more chill than swapping range+mage. Also, most ToA strategies recommend blowpipe+swamp trident, so it would seem like a zulrah detour would actually help at ToA.

I actually have a trident from slayer (I only found this discord when I was already 87 slayer so I didn't know you guys recommend against it), so I'd immediately be able to upgrade it if I get a magic fang.

Do you guys think it's a reasonable idea to make a detour to zulrah with bowfa-only kills?

stiff hollow Apr 1, 2024, 8:24 AM

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its fine either way. The blowpipe in ToA serves a minor role in bowfa setups, and you dont use magic much at all inside

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generally zulrah before occult is not a great idea since magic before occult just sucks

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also a lot of irons dont realise they need rune or amethyst darts to use the blowpipe at all

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but if you've got e.g. antivenom+, 92+ magic for spellbook swap, and want the rewards now there's no downside to going to zulrah

fickle rock Apr 1, 2024, 8:28 AM

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Thanks! yeah I forgot about the mining, I have 87 mining so not there but not too far off either.
and I have enough herblore and magic (from all that 87 slayer grind 😛 ) so I'll give it a shot then

stiff hollow Apr 1, 2024, 8:28 AM

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you dont need mining for rune darts, just smithing and fletching

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personally id stay the hell away from amethyst but many people enjoy it

fickle rock Apr 1, 2024, 8:29 AM

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ah I was thinking about amethyst. well rune even better I already have 88 smithing

stiff hollow Apr 1, 2024, 8:29 AM

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then I think you're all set 😄

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here's an example setup

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the max cape is just for banking so e.g. hallowed teleport crystals are better

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and a dueling ring is fine

fickle rock Apr 1, 2024, 8:30 AM

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yeah that's pretty much what I have except desert amulet 4 and pegasians but I can just bring teletabs for restoring at home I assume

stiff hollow Apr 1, 2024, 8:31 AM

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ah yeah thats fine, a bit slower but w/e

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and no overheal

young shoal Apr 1, 2024, 2:10 PM

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If you want to sweat a little you can also bring a 1-way archer/venator ring swap but it's giga minor. Since you have so much space anyway

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Oh also these days with 4-rune pouch you only have a 2-rune spillover into inv now

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Expected 6 kc for thread pouch even in 0rl

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Doesn't really matter though so I'd prob just deal with 3-rune pouch for now and get thread 0-time while chasing fang

vast carbon Apr 1, 2024, 6:29 PM

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When I went to zulrah recently, I dps checked my setups, ended up just doing bowfa only

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Was like a 7 way switch to have mage be better than bowfa

young shoal Apr 1, 2024, 6:32 PM

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Yeah I took a 9-way switch when I did kc

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Although with sbs veng thralls bowfa-only it was competitive
Only with Rigour ofc

vast carbon Apr 1, 2024, 6:34 PM

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definitely did not feel worth the extra effort to bring mage

devout totem Apr 1, 2024, 6:35 PM

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Having switches is more fun but it's definitely not as consistent as just camping bowfa with like 8 more food imo

rich zealot Apr 1, 2024, 6:51 PM

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Just camping bowfa+serp helm with thralls should get like 2 kill trips easily occasional 3 kills if you don't get unlucky with a lot of ranged hits during mage phase ( with anguish+suffering)

bleak anchor Apr 1, 2024, 6:53 PM

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Serp is a trap. One I convinced myself wasn't one for a couple hundred KC and then wizened up and extracted myself from.

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The swing from the dps benefits of crystal helm, going to the neg range bonus of a serp, is not worth it. Use cure me+ venge and +sbs into thralls if you can, before going with a serp helm. This is assuming pre-antivenoms

devout totem Apr 1, 2024, 7:02 PM

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U should easily be getting 6 kill trips or more with just bowfa camp if u restore every 2 kills tbh

young shoal Apr 1, 2024, 7:21 PM

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Got 8 every time, sometimes 9
I also got 8 every time with full swaps

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Serp bad

young shoal Apr 1, 2024, 7:22 PM

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devout totem Having switches is more fun but it's definitely not as consistent as just campin...

The better your mage gear is the more legit it is

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Sang, anc pieces, heart, ward(f), etc.

vast carbon Apr 1, 2024, 9:34 PM

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is the strat 2 kills, da4, rinse repeat until out of food?

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