twilit sedge
I'm pretty garbage at pvm and have been struggling to get consistent multi kill trips at Bandos. I've just gotten to hang of doing door/altar but I feel like I take so much damage from the minions and struggle to reset when I need to eat mid-kill. This may hurt to watch but I recorded some example kills if anyone would be willing to tell me what I'm doing poorly.
vagrant juniper
on the first kill you spent 30 seconds flicking between range and melee after graardor died even though the minions were attacking on the same tick
off tick them 🙂
everything else looks fine but flicking the minions more/better would go a long way
on the 2nd kill theyre all clearly attacking on different ticks and you can flick all 3 but dont even try to and the mager shredded you
also you had to eat to full after every kill
why are you bringing blood barrage if you arent using it
just walk over to the ranger and barrage him+the meleer
twilit sedge
Hey thanks for the feedback. I did see off ticking mentioned when I was reading through threads of people with similar issues but I wasn't sure what it was. It's just making them attack on different ticks right?
I've started trying to flick the mager as well. In cases where the mager and ranger are attacking on the same tick should I be spending time to off-tick them as well?
I've flip flopped between thralls and barrage so many times as I've been learning. The trip where I recorded here is the first time I brought barrage and I wasn't able to kill the melee and ranger fast enough before Graardor respawned. After looking at the other Bandos thread about setups I'll try it again with unequipping body and legs
native comet
Yes, ideally get them all offticked, you can get away with only doing 1/2 but it'll hurt your trip length and consistency long term.
Step under the tick before they attack to offtick.
twilit sedge
Thank you, looking forward to sending some more trips after work tonight
scenic oriole
generally id kill the mager quickly and then offtick range and melee
you can invert the order and/or offtick all three, both of which are better but also slightly more difficult
barraging range + melee every kill while they are offticked is one of the primary ways to restore your health between kills
late halo
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I only off ticked the range and melee, it’s a little bit more cozy. I was still getting like 70 kill trips iirc
twilit sedge
My record is 6kc lol
inland urchin
It just takes practice. Not exact math but its not really unusual to go from say.. 2kc trip, to 6, to 10, and then somewhere along the way you'll just click and click hard on the method and your PB of KCs will increase by double digits over the last trip, and climb moreso from there.
Biggest advice has already been given, offtick ranger and melee and it'll do wonders for your recovery between kills.
harsh delta
Just gunna highjack this thread real quick: just managed my first decent trip at bandos of 15kc but had to leave due to run energy. I took 1 stam pot.
How do you guys manage this usually? I wore suffering because it’s been pretty common on my last couple trips that I get out of cycle and I feel like that helps me there. However, is it now time I swap to explorers and ride the energy restores of that? Any other tips? Walking in between kills etc I’m guessing is the other easy change to make?
vagrant juniper
Just gunna highjack this thread real quick: just managed my first decent trip at...
turn off your run between kills but also walk the last 3 tiles every time on either end
imo this make it easier to time anyway
frosty quail
Walk between kills and walk the last 3 tiles of each side
vagrant juniper
in the timestamp here he tick walks but you can just CTRL walk https://youtu.be/rvkytWBKzKU?si=zi7BKsTviny4Me2-&t=110
frosty quail
You can sac an inv slot for expl ring too
harsh delta
Hmm I might try the walk method at the end of each length but I feel like this may throw me off. I’ll give it a go. Ty guys
frosty quail
it takes some getting used to
simple mulch
I personally found it a lot easier to only attempt to flick 2 at a time at the start until I got better. (meleer and ranger, and kill mage asap). Once you get comfortable with that. Start flicking Mager with them when all 3 are off tick.
prisma frigate
Just gunna highjack this thread real quick: just managed my first decent trip at...
I always walk as much as possible even with max stats, which lowers the likelihood of getting screwed during bad RNG kills
prisma frigate
Here's a full kill example at Zammy
Showing 3-way minion off-tick, saving run, and saving prayer on final 2 minions
Same principle will apply to Bandos, just don't have a clip off-hand
https://streamable.com/l49i0w
This is a different way to handle minions if you're heavily up on food
You can instead just 1t flick range + rigour and save prayer
You'll tank the mager hits but it's fine since you have so much food in this case
It's basically a food-prayer tradeoff that you do to balance supplies
https://streamable.com/7bvgp5
vague hollow
Tagging onto this thread too 🙏 . I'm having the same issue with run energy at around 10-15kc trips unless I stam pot. I'm walking post kill but not walking the end tiles, but my agi is 75. Is that why im having issues? How big of a dif will energy levels make?
prisma frigate
Ye agility level helps a lot but so does walking the end tiles
Rigour also helps a lot cuz it ends the kill faster and expends less energy
vague hollow
Aight I'll try walking the last two and see how big of a dif it makes. Yeah i've not gone to cox yet so rigours of the table for now.
vague hollow
Also another question, occasionally i get combo'd out by the mage/melee minions during a kill where I need to eat. It's not often, but it does happen. Are you able to eat in between bowfa hits during the non-flinch tiles? Or do you have to brew in those moments? Or only bwans?
vagrant juniper
Aight I'll try walking the last two and see how big of a dif it makes. Yeah i've...
you walk the last three, and yeah it makes a huge dif unless you get a streak of bad kills that takes a while run energy shouldnt really be a problem. Think I had 85ish agi for most of my kc and run energy was rarely the reason to leave
eat in lieu of a shot but yeah not the shots at the ends
any food works
to stay in rhythm id eat and still click bandos to stall on the tile for a tick as if I shot
vague hollow
Ah right, so the eat essentially replaces the hit on the tile you're heading to, then go next and hit again
thanks both of you, super helpful thread
prisma frigate
You can also eat two karams but it's weird timing, I prefer just chomping one manta
simple mulch
Chomping one manta in place of a Bofa hit felt most reliable for me.
I also started to turn on steel skin when I noticed I was getting comboed at the start of a kill
prisma frigate
Oh yeah I'd just have Steel Skin on at all times when using EE
During the kill
Otherwise you're not having any defense boost unlike with Rigour
late harbor
I go back and forth on the eagle eye thing if not flicking. It's a noticeable prayer drain that limits trips, but getting randomly destroyed by minions also limits trips
prisma frigate
Rigour should be same drain as EE + Steel Skin if I recall correctly
So it should be fine, yes it'll be slightly higher drain overall because DPS is lower (so the prayer will stay on for longer)
But you profit so much prayer at Bandos
I walk in with 6 ppots and halfway through the trip it looks like this
If you're up on prayer like that you should just flick minions and camp prayers so that you avoid all damage and then stock up on food, to balance it back out like this
Then when I'm in a situation like this I will instead 1t flick range + rigour and tank damage from mager + meleer to save as much prayer as possible
And just heal back up with the food drops
The blood barrage is literally only for the first ~10 kills of the trip to ensure you can survive even with bad RNG on food drops. And if you're facing trouble mid-trip you always have it available as a fallback
iron osprey