#Blowpipe at TOA if I don't have BowFa

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quartz cove
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Got a Blowpipe but not a BowFa, should I be using it at ToA for Zebak and P2/P3 Wardens? Been using my Crystal Bow for my current 150 Invo runs, not sure if the Blowpipe does significantly more damage to justify making the darts.

dire coral
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if you have a rune crossbow thats generally better than a blowpipe at toa, especially if you increase the raid level (which I would really really do asap)

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blowpipe is good on a number of enemies but most of the time its lower dps, so that definitely doesnt justify the scales and rune darts

quartz cove
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Crystal Bow + Crystal Armor probably beats out the RCB though right? I'm thinking of sticking with that then just using the Blowpipe maybe for like Baba Puzzle, Kephri Swarms, and Akka Shadows

dire coral
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if you have crystal armour there's really no reason to send toa, go get a bowfa first

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I'm sorry but I really don't get that. Why would you do cg almost to the finish line and then give up

lunar bluff
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crystal bow probably better but

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!dps

willow flareBOT
lunar bluff
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is your friend

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also get bowfa as said

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doing 150 raids is also a complete waste of time

quartz cove
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Yeah I know the practical thing to do is send CG, but I decided long ago that I'm fine giving up efficiency and just focus on fun. Doing raids with the GIMs mixed in with the CG runs is more entertaining, even if not efficient

lunar bluff
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you are spending 4-5x longer per purple than at a good raid level

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if you're okay with that then carry on

quartz cove
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On the topic of raid levels though, do we just go as high as we can then? We can probably do 200s soon

dire coral
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I think its more like 2-3x as long

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but yeah

dire coral
quartz cove
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Doubt we can do 270-320 haha but that's the goal

dire coral
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anything lower than that is more of a practice run to get your feet wet and observe what the invocations look like

lunar bluff
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should get bowfa and do 350 but if that's not an option, you can at least do consistent 300s

dire coral
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you can do 270s with a rune crossbow, the partisan from the quest and a bone sceptre to cast undead grasp

quartz cove
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We're a duo, 1 of us has bowfa, 2 of us have hastas

85-90 stats

what's a realistic invo level?

dire coral
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350

lunar bluff
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350

dire coral
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itll take a while to get there but its worth gradually increasing the raid level as much as possible

lunar bluff
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yeah more like 3x longer i guess

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150 is ~1/50, 350 is ~1/17

quartz cove
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350???

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holy lol

lunar bluff
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for purple

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the raids will be slightly longer too

quartz cove
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it honestly feels like the raid mechanics aren't what's stopping us from getting to 250-300 invo though

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it's the crazy stat increase

lunar bluff
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but i assume your 150s arent especially speedy atm

dire coral
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but you should really get two more bowfae (bowfa's?) if you can

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especially if you already have the armour

quartz cove
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yeah once we get 2 bowfas, should definitely help

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we both have full armors already

dire coral
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choosing not to get one is playing the game on hard mode and on slow down at the same time

lunar bluff
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practice not making mistakes

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the bosses' normal attacks will not drain all your supps on their own

quartz cove
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ok will try doing 200s and ramping it up from there

lunar bluff
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i would increase rl by 10-20 after each clear

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some invos are worth practicing in entry mode, like boulderdash

dire coral
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I would personally go slower than that but im bad ๐Ÿ˜›

lunar bluff
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maybe upset stomach if you struggle with that

dire coral
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trying to add raid level in small steps is good, though personally I didnt do this every raid

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more like every 2-5

lunar bluff
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the pace isnt set in stone for sure

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the key is just not to stagnate at a low level

quartz cove
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Thanks folks, will see how far we can push it

lunar bluff
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glgl

night geyser
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Like Raze/BRUH said, 150-200 is basically trolling long-term (beyond like 4-5 raids to learn mechanics)

night geyser
void willow
night geyser
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If you can pull it off, it's still better

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Even if you somehow do a 25 minute 300, a 40 minute 400 is better

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It's ~1/23 for a purple in a 300, and ~1/11 for a purple in a 400
So a 25-min 300 is 0.1043 purples/hr
Meanwhile, a 40-min 400 is 0.1364 purples/hr

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In fact, even if you did it in 20 mins it's still worse ๐Ÿ˜ญ breakeven is at around 19.1 mins
The lesson here is that pumping RL is basically unbeatable up to 400

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350s are definitely possible with bowfa hasta though