#Are battlestaves still worth making for money without the gravestone shenanigans?

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hard creek
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I'm still a HCIM. Don't think ill keep the status that much longer but don't want to die for a staff!

uneven saddle
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They’re OK, depending on your account stage

lunar sigil
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Yes

glass rain
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They are still very good on hcim you can blow the glass on the way to the fire obelisk too

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This way the entire time is spent either blowing glass or charging orbs, can also use an alt to hold the spiders so they don't interrupt you too if you're so inclined

glass rain
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OP said they are HCIM

lunar sigil
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Yes

glass rain
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So maybe they shouldn't spend long times in the wilderness with no food?

lunar sigil
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That's not really a question we can answer for them

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However, fire battlestaves don't really replace earth or air staves

glass rain
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If you are blowing the glass on the way it doesnt really make a difference how long the trips are

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They are fine

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It's around 600 fire orbs/hr but you are converting molten glass into fire orbs rather than 920 unpowered orbs in air orbs per hour

brave olive
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I would not make fire or water staves ever, I don't consider it a method

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it's unfortunate that air/earth are good and some people mistakenly will think water/fire exist

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but imo they are completely different

glass rain
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why does it make a difference if you're spending all of the time either blowing glass or charging orbs

brave olive
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because you can blow the glass in even better situations than when running to the obelisk

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the reason air and earth are so good is that you have paddewwa tabs for easy access

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for water/fire its poh tabs to taverley, not nearly as good

glass rain
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teleport to house works fine too

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what you're saying is true but only really applies if you literally would never would bankstand blow glass

brave olive
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ah yeah true

glass rain
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which i think isn't true for the vast vast majority of players

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its the best way to make money on a hcim early game I don't think its as terrible as it's made out to be

brave olive
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No, its not even close to the best way

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air and earth staves are still just better, and even those are of limited use

glass rain
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not even close like 20% off or you think like worse than half as good

brave olive
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it wont be half but perhaps 20% yeah

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along with the lower crafting and magic xp

glass rain
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I was thinking around 20% too but consindering you're maybe doing battlestaves for 10hrs max or so I think thats a worthwhile sacrifice to keep hcim status

brave olive
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the earth and air obelisk are not actually dangerous

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I think it's completely unviable to avoid risks of this tier

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at that point just become a bankstander, that way you also wont really need gp

glass rain
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its a long time spent in the wildy. but is it not dangerous i dont understand

brave olive
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there's no pkers there and it's very easy to teleport out or escape

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I think if you are scared of this level of risk you really don't belong on hcim mode, you have a few more hours left on the account and then you'll be locked out of all future activities

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flat 70s and then log off forever

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ok actually you can do a lot of skilling, but it's still a way to lock yourself out of most of the content in the game

glass rain
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Out of interest what do you think is the chance of dying from doing all the orbs you would need to craft in the early game

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Because the figure im thinking of is maybe 5-10% but I've never really done the method

brave olive
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I think its around 0.1-0.3%

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in that hundreds of irons have done it and I havent heard of anybody dying

glass rain
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ok yea I would agree with you then, I thought the chance would be a lot higher

brave olive
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and as a hcim its easy enough to pay a bit more attention. As you say its just a few hours

glass rain
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With a higher rate of death it would have been more time saved on average but since its seems a lot less likely that I expected, it sounds worth to do air/earth on a hcim early.