Acceptable time to go for korasi? | IronScape | Page 1

midnight rain Jul 17, 2023, 8:29 AM

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Hi, I was wondering if there is an optimal time to go for voidwaker? I’ve been boosting for some rev tasks on the side looking for a revenant weapon, but is there was an optimal time to go for the pieces.

Rsn is: bowfawhere if that helps

nimble niche Jul 17, 2023, 8:32 AM

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if you want to go for one I'd go after bowfa + hasta

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fwiw I dont think trying to get tasks, or doing revs, is the fastest way to go for it

vast tendon Jul 17, 2023, 8:35 AM

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Artio requires exactly and only bowfa

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The other two really just require a good crush setup

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I use bludgeon, hasta is an option but bringing a defender is awkward so it's a lot worse

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Fang might be good, I haven't calced it

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Bowfa might be competitive at spindel

nimble niche Jul 17, 2023, 8:36 AM

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whats wrong with defender?

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I thought you can 3-item it with hasta, defender and one more (b ring?) protected

vast tendon Jul 17, 2023, 8:44 AM

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Well, that means you're not bringing another item

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On venenatis slayer helm is really good

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Home boy is after a revenant task so spider tasks are basically free

violet schooner Jul 17, 2023, 9:36 AM

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Getting a rev weapon first isn’t going to save you time going to voidwaker. If you want both rev weapons then tureal revs straight for one then start bossing with that weapon as well.
If you already have bofa and hasta you’re there gear-wise. Most late game upgrades won’t help. E.g. prims, bandos, masori, even tbow/scythe/shadow aren’t used so you’re free to send whenever.
Voidwaker REALLY shines at ToA, so I’d fit it in before you go for fang whether that’s an early fang -> slayer or a post-dex or post-lance grind.
Slayer tasks - bears and spiders are nice, skeleton is irrelevant because of salve. I’ll recommend if any of these apply to you
A. You’re doing the big bosses. In bigger teams if you don’t get mvp or last hit then it won’t count as a kill for task so they’ll last pretty long.
B. You dislike being in the wildy - this is me. I’d rather tureal for an hour to save 30 mins in the wildy every time.
C. You want to built up slayer points - tureal skip every wildy task you don’t want and do every 10/50th task at Duradel/Konar.

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Re: bruh defender.
Being able to drop defender is great for big bosses where you will die above 20 wildy, I use elder maul for that reason.

Maul/slayer helm/bring/bulwark for venanatis

chilly sparrow Jul 17, 2023, 10:14 AM

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No way this man said to use an elder maul! ☠️

violet schooner Jul 17, 2023, 10:16 AM

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Dps calc doesn’t lie

violet schooner Jul 17, 2023, 10:49 AM

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Anyway, “go grind out cox for an elder maul before voidwaker” wasnt advice, it was responding to the earlier “why defender”

heady sun Jul 17, 2023, 10:51 AM

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Bulwark seems wasteful for spider when you can just one tap with darts/knives and not add risk(or bring something that gives more damage if you're willing to add risk)

violet schooner Jul 17, 2023, 10:53 AM

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It’s for groups not just your 2 spiders. Clears all of them + decent hits on boss

loud ridge Jul 17, 2023, 1:11 PM

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What about Voidwaker in ToA really makes it shine, just curious? Like if you've got a BGS for the few bosses you'd want to spec it on, you're using yellow keris for healing, and you've got DDS for warden core...where is Voidwaker being used and how good is it really?

nimble niche Jul 17, 2023, 1:13 PM

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its slightly better than claws as a dps spec, and also its a 4t weapon for core

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so it works well in combination with fang, especially for 3d runs without dds

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unfortunately it doesnt work on akkha bullet hell, but its a good dps spec on the kephri overlords, zebak near the end of the kill, baba always and warden p4

loud ridge Jul 17, 2023, 1:19 PM

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warden p4 voidwaker? Not bgs to lower def?

nimble niche Jul 17, 2023, 1:21 PM

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I think neither one is worth the risk or frankly even the effort, if you lose some time on the swaps or have to brew up from taking a hit thats already more significant losses than the specs will gain

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but if you want to, voidwaker beats bgs

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personally I think having the option of a partisan spec outweighs the utility of saving around 5 seconds from two bgs specs though

loud ridge Jul 17, 2023, 1:30 PM

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I see. So questionable for Warden, vs just not using a spec. Useful @ end of Zebak, a specific minion on Kelphri. And...I guess just Warden core is the definitive winner?

nimble niche Jul 17, 2023, 1:31 PM

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yeah, once you have a fang the warden core is an issue and might require a swap regardless

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slotting in voidwaker there is a nice one

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also its really good if you do not have a yellow partisan yet, since now its more useful in other situations too. You missed baba btw

loud ridge Jul 17, 2023, 1:39 PM

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Ohh, baba always. Did miss that. Even moreso than BGS? Interesting

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Honestly just been chucking BGS @ most everything and then yellow keris rest of the fight

nimble niche Jul 17, 2023, 1:40 PM

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no after bgs, but the first spec is usually enough

loud ridge Jul 17, 2023, 1:40 PM

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Not counting warden core ofc

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Ahh

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Ok gotcha

nimble niche Jul 17, 2023, 1:40 PM

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I meant for the rest of the fight

loud ridge Jul 17, 2023, 1:40 PM

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Easy to do, gotcha, since you're meleeing anyways. Makes sense.

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And I guess with VW you're just using that as your primary "whack" wep for core, dumping specs, then swapping to BGS on last hit?

nimble niche Jul 17, 2023, 1:41 PM

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its also relevant that voidwaker hits regardless of accuracy and that ToA bosses have insane defence scaling

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pretty much everywhere else claws is higher dps

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but in ToA its voidwaker

nimble niche Jul 17, 2023, 1:41 PM

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loud ridge And I guess with VW you're just using that as your primary "whack" wep for core,...

yep

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cant spec btw, its magic damage

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if you want more damage on core from your spec bar, use a bgs spec instead of bgs whack

loud ridge Jul 17, 2023, 1:43 PM

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Ooooh. Honestly did not even know he was flat out immune to magic on core. Always just dds'd anyways. So just whack then. How very staight forward lol

nimble niche Jul 17, 2023, 1:43 PM

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he's not immune, but melee always hits a max hit while magic and range roll as normal

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so they are basically half dps

loud ridge Jul 17, 2023, 1:43 PM

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Aha

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TIL. Neat. Well, I dont have a VW but this looks neat. Been wanting to go for one so this looks like a decent enough "justification" for it.

nimble niche Jul 17, 2023, 1:44 PM

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its also just a good melee dps spec weapon if you dont have claws

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definitely a good item to have

loud ridge Jul 17, 2023, 1:45 PM

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Yeah I dont. Missing a good dps spec wep right now. Have just about everything else, and no plans to farm CoX just yet....so I may as well, right?

nimble niche Jul 17, 2023, 1:45 PM

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yeah, I dont know how long it takes to obtain these days but its a nice item

midnight rain Jul 17, 2023, 3:30 PM

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violet schooner 1. Getting a rev weapon first isn’t going to save you time going to voidwaker. I...

And then for revs, is it more optimal to do knights? I was doing Orks on my previous tasks, but I’m considering doing knights

violet schooner Jul 17, 2023, 3:35 PM

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Tons of discussion of this in #1067758168907731006, but I don't think there's really a consensus given the variables of pker activity, what you're willing to risk, how good you are at escaping and kph vs. tureal ratios.

midnight rain Jul 17, 2023, 3:44 PM

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Got it

stark night Jul 17, 2023, 4:40 PM

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fwiw i think risking defenders/capes/black mask (not your imbued one) is pretty fine for singles+ versions of spider and skele

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either instatele or rely on freeze and gap/logout rly reliable.

desert swan Jul 17, 2023, 9:45 PM

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if you have another acc you can huge risk on singles bosses

round trench Jul 18, 2023, 12:20 AM

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If you're not thralling you're likely just risking stuff to risk it at singles

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Unless it's a massive dps increase with your risked items ig

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Also I'd only dinhs in 4 man vene unless everyone has mace

#Acceptable time to go for korasi?