When is the best time to go for either Dwh or bgs? I’ve killed a couple hundred shamans on task but never off task, I’m able to get 2-3 solo bandos kc a trip also.
#dwh or bgs?
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coral pivot
these days the bowfa method for graardor fits iron progression a lot better than any alternative. If you have a bowfa I'd just start sending it
dwh is best done 'passively' from slayer. Unlock the task early and just keep killing them whenever you get a task, and if you still don't have one by level 95 or so just camp them offtask
the melee method for shamans is the best one afaik
primal brook
I'd kill shamans on task until you finish slayer then give up in disgust and bgs for life if you don't get one by then
Bowfa shamans is lazier but worse, if it were me I'd do it
tame lodge
fang is like +20% over EE bowfa
I guess it gets 15/16ed but that's still ~18% so
kinda hard to say no to that unfortunately
whereas hasta is way closer
primal brook
Verzik walking 10k lizardman shamans does not strike me as a good time
But yes if you're down to do it it's clearly better
tame lodge
Yea I mean I wouldn't do it for 1-5% DPS but 18% is a lot
That's like choosing to use dscim when you have a whip
Or choosing to not use a Slayer helm
It's just a bad decision
ionic fjord
well bp exists too right, tbh I would rather use the scales and darts than use that melee method (I have used both)
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I have full crystal and bowfa shamans with bowfa wasn’t bad on task. I haven’t really gone back to bandos yet after getting 11kc tassets so I can grind slayer, but I need atleast the bgs so people will let me come on more raids lol
tame lodge
well bp exists too right, tbh I would rather use the scales and darts than use t...
sourcing good darts is tough tho, best to ration them carefully
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im able to do the 6:0 method of running around the room but i havent tried the door/altar method
tame lodge
6:0 corner to corner is rly bad with rcb already
and it's even worse with bowfa cuz 4t and not 5t
it loses a ton of ticks so the boss stays alive and you take so much dmg
door altar is really good, the boss dies rly fast
primal brook
6:0 door altar is free as fuck just learn it
grim dagger
is door altar doable w/ rcb?
primal brook
No needs to be 4t
prisma rapids
Fwiw I got more kills with cannon in canyon, 190-215kph with anguish, bowfa, assembler, thralls
Ended up going 14,447kc for dwh, if I did task only I would've been there until like 30m xp
tame lodge
Do task until 99 and send off task after that
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Fwiw I got more kills with cannon in canyon, 190-215kph with anguish, bowfa, ass...
Thank you that’s good to know.
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Do task until 99 and send off task after that
99 slayer?
woeful hedge
yes
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Hmm idk if have the patience for that, I’ll probably sprinkle in some thralls bowfa cannon kills every so often when I’m feeling lucky because I want to raid asap, basically only need to do Tob and toa
woeful hedge
well you dont need dwh for toa at all
coral pivot
depending on the group bgs is fine for tob as well
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Bgs will definitely take me a while. I’m at 18kc bandos. I did 3 trips recently and on the third I think I finally taught myself door altar method it’s just that my 80 def makes me a squishmuffin. I think I got 3 kills in the last trip lol
coral pivot
everybody starts that way, the defence level is not an issue
in fact your def is higher than I'd normally recommend for sending bandos, but of course having extra stats is always better
people usually get like 0-0-0-1-1-2-4-8-20 kill trips, at some point you get the timing down and get good trip lengths
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Yeah I haven’t not prayed melee yet lol. Seems like definitely will whack me on the 1st and last tile no matter what
coral pivot
he's not whacking everybody else on those tiles so you're probably doing something wrong
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It’s a good method just need to get it click perfect. One thing I have trouble with is when a minion is in the path
coral pivot
I'd recommend practicing the method more 😄
woeful hedge
It’s a good method just need to get it click perfect. One thing I have trouble w...
like you can't click bandos or the tile? if its the tile then that shouldn't be an issue if you just click the furthest tile everytime. if its bandos you can either change the minions left click to 'walk here' with menu entry swapper or just right click attack
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I’m saying sometimes the range minion or mage minion is standing on tile 1. Or the melee minion gets in the way, but I switched him left click walk under
haughty beacon
Just click past it and click to attack bandos when you reach the correct tile
woeful hedge
but yeah this
haughty beacon
I’ve never had this issue at bandos but I can see how it could happen at zammy
Same solution though
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Also another question. I have watched a video or two, but after you reach the altar and click the door , is your next move to shoot bandos(on the correct tile) then click the furthest tile from the altar
woeful hedge
yeah
haughty beacon
Click bandos, click altar, click bandos after moving 3 ticks
Exact same procedure on the other end
Replace altar with door
I always click past the end tile otherwise and manually walk the last 3
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Can you do that every time? What’s the actual purpose of clicking the door
woeful hedge
to red x stall bandos
haughty beacon
If you do it correctly and have bandos highlighted with true tile you’ll see he stops moving and your first shot after the red x you’ll be right next to him on the other side
I like the bandos true tile as it gives me confidence that I’m in cycle as it’s the same positions every time
It’s hard to explain through text but it’s visually clear when you’re doing it correctly after you’ve gotten it a few times
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I like the bandos true tile as it gives me confidence that I’m in cycle as it’s ...
I’ll have to find that true tile setting for bandos I only have it for myself
ember flint
kinda hard to say no to that unfortunately
What does 15/16’d mean? I’ve seen that a few times but don’t quite know what it means
coral pivot
some bosses require you to attack in a 4t, or 4x4=16t, rhythm
with a 5t weapon this means 3 attacks (3x5) plus one tick of waiting to make 16
so you're only dealing 15/16th of your raw dps
verzik p2 is the best example
coral pivot
fang is like +20% over EE bowfa
I guess it gets 15/16ed but that's still ~18% so
also +20% but getting 15/16th makes +12.5%, you don't just lose a 16th of the +20% but also of the first 100%
tame lodge
Fair
Still anything that's >= 10% extra damage just kinda has to be entertained seriously
quiet ore