#GOTR without NPC Contact?

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loud pike
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So I have loosely been following Oziris v4 guide just to have a gameplan out of the early game, and I'm wondering where GOTR fits in with my current plans. I am at a point where the guide recommends buying a whole bunch of gold ore to smelt and turn into bracelets for alching, and so going to the mage bank and buying 5k nats is recommended. At this point I thought banging out some GOTR to get a healthy stack of nats and laws would be useful, but some seem to think getting NPC Contact is almost a necessity for GOTR, so unsure if I should be skilling up for Lunar Diplomacy, keeping on with the Oziris recommendations, or just sending it on GOTR. Skills included here, crafting would be the one I'd need to focus on for Lunar Diplomacy

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hallow hornet
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in no particular order:

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  • runes from gotr arent that great
  • the best gotr method is combination runes which requires 82 magic for magic imbue (lunar spellbook)
  • id not make gold bars into bracelets, its a terrible waste of time
  • this also means you don't need nature runes
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generally speaking im not a fan of oziris v4 at all

onyx gorge
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you dont need npc contact to repair pouches anymore but as bruh said magic imbue is still highly recommended

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can repair at gotr for 25 upfront cost + 1 pearl per complete repair thereafter

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(but lunars still very good)

loud pike
# hallow hornet in no particular order:

Yeah I just don't even have a main so I had little direction, so just went with it. I think I'm getting to the point where I don't need to follow it anymore, but still just feel overwhelmed by options so I just usually do farm runs/birdhouse runs

hallow hornet
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good luck, we have a lot of good resources available if you're curious 😄

loud pike
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Still want to get B gloves and make my way into later game pvm stuff as my main goal

hallow hornet
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it depends a lot on what you mean with 'later game pvm stuff'. Keep in mind ironman mode is meant to be a self sufficient game mode. It will always be better to level everything else alongside improving your combat stats and gear, just so you have access to the best methods for pvm

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if you want to rush into pvm I'd recommend a non-iron account tbh

loud pike
# hallow hornet if you want to rush into pvm I'd recommend a non-iron account tbh

Nah I don't want non-iron, I like earning what I'm gonna get rather than cashscape, but for later game PvM I want to eventually get to barrows/bossing, I don't have any rush there just want to be semi-efficient with my gains on the way there haha. I've been doing mostly afk combat training at ammonites but deciding what I want to do when actively playing is tougher haha. Are those resources like pins in here or just looking through the question forum here

hallow hornet
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#1052266500041478246

loud pike
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oh duh lol

onyx gorge
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very roughly
get to battlestaves> use battlestaves GP for song of the elves, base 70s inc prayer > chin high ranged > bowfa + gauntlet > slayer to 93 all while doing contracts and training herb

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gauntlet will be the first meaningful pvm experience both in the fact that it's a grind and it will kick your ass for a while at the start

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and it sets you up for decent slayer and is great for pvm down the line

rose sage
# loud pike Yeah I just don't even have a main so I had little direction, so just went with ...

farm runs/birdhouse runs are s-tier psychological safety mechanisms if you overwhelmed tbh

and yeah, main xp limiter in my experience has been gp, so bstaves are popular due to their raw gp/hr and relevant xp (crafting/magic), from there itll fund you while doing quests and reqs for sote as hoofi said

some people get tempted to ride the slayer train all the way to 95 since you have afk tasks, and it gives a taste of gp if you do it inefficiently/frugally, but imo better to get money from skilling/cg and dumping those resources into slayer

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my first iron i did the afk slayer tasks and some super poverty methods like ancient macing a combat dummy in POH to get extra prayer to afk in catacombs to save on ranarrs, a few months later I finished Cerb @ 91 slayer with like 500 prayer pots and no idea where to use them since I kept getting more from contracts/pvm, was your typical 99+ megalixir situation

loud pike
onyx gorge
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I'd say so yeah, crafting, magic and gp are all fairly important early and battlestaves give most of that in an efficient manner

loud pike
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@rose sage @onyx gorge @hallow hornet thank you for the help!

low jackal
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Strongly recommend reading bruhsailer, shit is OP

left plank
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Short answer is don't do Oziris and do bruhsailor instead

unborn dawn
onyx gorge
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yeah its good

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you can manually charge them its faster and recommended

unborn dawn
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Good to know. Thanks!

hallow hornet
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not daily btw @unborn dawn just bstaves in general

gentle cloud
unborn dawn
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Where do you start to generate decent amounts of battlestaves? And why not dailies?

gentle cloud
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Well you can do dailies too if you'd like but it's too slow in real-time
It's barely a discount. Around 14 GP saved per staff
Might as well just pay slightly more so that you don't get bottlenecked per day, just spend one day hopping 100 times and buying a ton of staves from the magic guild

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(7k/staff vs 7014/staff)

hallow hornet
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to avoid confusion: you can just buy them in the shop

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also I prefer my own vid to saebae's 😛

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its in the faq

gentle cloud
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Forgot you made one, thanks

unborn dawn
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Ah didn’t know they were shoppable for the same price!

gentle cloud
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Does it show the full process similar to karams btw, BRUH?

hallow hornet
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yes

gentle cloud
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Nice

hallow hornet
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including setting up the gravestone at the pyramid and everything

gentle cloud
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Replace with air orbs if you have access

loud pike
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Figuring out doing some MTA to get my magic level up and crafting up for battlestaves in general

left plank
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Btw gotr without npc contact is really bad. The npc goes through menu options and dialogue with you first, and then she casts the spell. Plus you have to pay, and she's only in the minigame it self. It's fine if you rush it before games but you could be late to the mine if not

left plank
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You can just start at step 1 and do any quests/diaries etc you missed, and then any items it tells you to grab well you can go back for those when it comes up. You have teleports by the sounds of it so it won't be too bad

loud pike
# left plank It's worth it

Yeah I really like the in depth, I’m going through step by step to see what I have done and haven’t, and see where we land

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I really wish I bothered to do some more researching before blackjacking to 88 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

left plank
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Oh well, blackjacking is fast anyway

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Just means you have more gp, can spend less time doing arteglass and more time afk glass making which imo is a win

lone summit
left plank
lone summit
left plank
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Yeh fark that

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@hallow hornet is a big advocate for doing content solo where you can purely because other people cause a lot of time waste due to being bad

hallow hornet
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a lot of people enjoy the methods they're familiar with over faster alternatives

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also fwiw in most situations that solo vs group issue doesn't come up

left plank
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I tried to get my friend to help me with dks so I could get supreme kills on my iron, was 2 hours of trying to tell him not to run into prime range. We got a grand total of 4 kc, most of which was me lol :kekw

lone summit
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@left plank I know, I have been reading these chats here for a time now 😉

hallow hornet
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if you really want DKs kills at low level (for example for the combat achievements) I'd use a solo method yeah

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there's a low level method

left plank
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I figured out how to use my main in the end, but that's for a different thread

gentle cloud
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well there's always the giga aids strat of perfectly prayer flicking everything
in which case it doesn't matter how bad your gear is, just that it'll be slow
I wouldn't do it myself but it's in the realm of "theoretically possible"
but even any previous utility for those ring drops has gone even further towards zero with the introduction of the lightbearer

loud pike
# hallow hornet including setting up the gravestone at the pyramid and everything

Hey two questions: I'm currently 52 crafting and trying to get up to battlestaves, I've already done some seaweed farming so should I use that and mine sandstone and blow glass orbs til I hit 58?
And for the staves themselves: Are you buying them en masse/hopping worlds at once prior to starting the battlestaff grind or are you buying them as you go?

hallow hornet
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id buy soda ash and mine sandstone. Using seaweed is slower if you dont have the lunar super glassmake spell

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on a similar note I'd avoid farming seaweed if you're below 76 farming. It's a lot faster at 76+ with an attas anima plant, and the seaweed is not useful at low level anyway.

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you buy the staves on an as-needed basis, though you can get them ahead of time if you have the starting cash for it

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id go for a combination of questing and glass to level your crafting, though I'd only make as many orbs as needed and move to lantern lenses after

loud pike
# hallow hornet on a similar note I'd avoid farming seaweed if you're below 76 farming. It's a l...

Yeah I had just started before seeing this recommendation so had some banked, didn't know if I should use what I have or save it but waiting for super glassmake makes sense. I have a 1.2m cash stack rn cause I blackjacked to 88, so maybe I'll start loading up on staves as part of my dailies.

And in terms of whats needed for orbs, I'm trying to get aligned onto your guide towards the end of Chapter 1 and seeing what I'm missing, is it that ~1500 orbs that's recommended?

hallow hornet
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its 1600 in ch 1 and another 900 throughout ch 2, though you should have a lot of extra gp from that extra blackjacking

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just dont burn that cash stack 😅

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as an aside a lot of people think staves are a daily but you can just buy them in the shop. The daily saves 14 gp each over buying them, its just convenient to buy more at once without hopping if you're already at the shop

loud pike
gentle cloud
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Yea keeping track of macro stuff is rly difficult honestly lol. Took me multiple months to go through Chapter 2 with BRUH, we revised the drafts quite a few times.