also-manga

[crude bronze]

So he is 10 meters tall?

[deep chasm]

yeah

[crude bronze]

1,000 cm?

Sheesh

[lofty fern]

It's Luffy, it that helps

We meet Yorki next chapter? Or would this be too early?

[trim lily]

too early probably

though i’m expecting a timeskip

[lofty fern]

I'm trying to remember his age compared to Brooks

[hazy turret]

She is unique! Even the others have unique designs. But the hair/clothes/faces (sorta) are doing most of the heavy lifting. I’m not saying theyre indistinguishable, just that they all have the same body type. Which is a shame because it can add another element to a characters design

[rose rune]

I find it so funny that whenever I google brulee, I always get surprised by how big her boobs actually are.

[trim lily]

how old is she again

i wanna say like late 50s but that seems wrong

[ashen perch]

Scrolling through the Charlotte family page on wiki right now and yeah, definitely far more than Amazon Lily actually. Oda goes wild with the designs and they ALL stand out, Oda worked hard on them for sure

[rose rune]

43

[lofty fern]

She's not older than Kata himself

[ashen perch]

Definitely not the case in the manga lol

[royal orchid]

younger than I thought

[deep chasm]

aging not doing her well

[hazy turret]

There was fanart the other day of her with a HUGE chest it freaked me out

[rose rune]

yeah, I think toei added some fat

[ashen perch]

I saw it lmao

[royal orchid]

wow yeah that twitter artist was not exaggerating

[tranquil blade]

How has everyone seen this fanart

[trim lily]

big brûlée fans here

[urban lodge]

Today is the most blessed day for twitter fan art I've seen

[trim lily]

is it all candelle

[lofty fern]

Toei took liberties

[royal orchid]

robin art, gunko art, candel art, brook art

just 🤑🤑🤑

[rose rune]

yeah

[lofty fern]

Nah, Imu has some love too, he's pretty hot this week. Brook got some too

[urban lodge]

Idc about Candel because she will be evil but I'm feasting with the others

[deep chasm]

I mean the image is just far

its there in the manga too

[royal orchid]

your mind seems pretty made up on evil candel I tell you

[hasty sable]

she looks too old for 43

[urban lodge]

Yeah

I'm so convinced that it'll be very weird if I'm wrong

[lofty fern]

The face does her no favors

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-one-piece-film-red-one-piece-red-one-piece-movie-one-piece-movie-red-gif-6066654031958274268

[hasty sable]

Branch

[ashen perch]

That's basically how big Oda usually draws them so i guess she definitely is supposed to have them big, Toei does ofc exaggerate the size

[rose rune]

eating sweets all the time does that to a person

[royal orchid]

the nose and long face really don't help

[ashen perch]

I think the only time Oda was truly ridiculous with boob size was Marineford Boa

[trim lily]

eating donuts gave katakuri youth

[tranquil blade]

That's what happens when you rely on Charlotte "Luffy's Whitebeard" Katakuri

[urban lodge]

But I was right about literally everything Gunko related so far so I'll keep the confidence

[hazy turret]

She’s 1980s 43 years old

[hasty sable]

Katakuri is Luff's Don Chinjao

[ashen perch]

Like genuinely stupid, and yknow, there's a story to this too

[royal orchid]

boa all the time actually

[ashen perch]

Oda's own daughter called out Oda on Marineford Boa lol

[trim lily]

she should advise him more

[lofty fern]

I think Viola is pretty bad

[ashen perch]

I don't think so

[urban lodge]

That's mostly Toei again

[royal orchid]

anime viola

[rose rune]

anime viola is insane

[royal orchid]

not manga

[tranquil blade]

Viola was really bad in the anime

[ashen perch]

Viola's pretty normal

[urban lodge]

Toei is the root of all evil

[tranquil blade]

Really REALLY bad in the anime with that

Like Toei was on crack

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/viola-one-piece-anime-gif-20074601

[rose rune]

I mean... still kinda

[royal orchid]

jesus christ

[lofty fern]

Her boobs are as big as her head

[tranquil blade]

Why did they make her forehead bigger

[deep chasm]

yall real optimistic with this candel thing. Give him another chapter to make more panels and angles and she'll have the same body type as everyone else

[ashen perch]

Also actually not true, her usual outfit does make her look regular

[hazy turret]

I got really confused because she would have had to be 4 or 5 years old at the time, didn’t consider that she called him out after the arc had ended

[ashen perch]

Candel has the same body type as everyone else and its fine

[lofty fern]

It's why Shakky is always better

[ashen perch]

I think this is anime induced psychosis

[lofty fern]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-shakky-shakky-one-piece-shakuyaku-shakuyaku-one-piece-gif-3787033729918132758

[deep chasm]

the anime exaggerates it. The manga also consistently has huge chests for all of the women

[royal orchid]

yeah I was anime only until a little while before gear 5

[tranquil blade]

It's because toei is evil

[royal orchid]

maybe I could do a full read of the manga

[ashen perch]

Candel really doesn't look much different from the average hourglass figure bearing character in the series, people have just not paid attention to the manga

[deep chasm]

like this comparison is just showing that. Anime clearly exaggerated it but its not like you could say the chest in the manga is any less than large

[royal orchid]

july is a month break from uni

so

[hazy turret]

At the end of the day, Oda is just a boob man

[lofty fern]

Not all, Oda made one flat chested woman

[tranquil blade]

but remember Egghead...

Something happened to him man

[hazy turret]

Egghead made him venture into the world of Ass men

[tranquil blade]

Oda is such a freak I can't even try to defend it

[ashen perch]

Oh yeah it was from like 2019? I think she'd have been a lot older

[hazy turret]

He needed to learn how he can reel them in to read the manga

[wraith mantle]

As long as Oda doesn’t develop an interest in feet I am good

[tranquil blade]

Son

[ashen perch]

Uh

Too late

[royal orchid]

damn otohime was 36?

[hazy turret]

We don’t know if she’s flat chested, that’s just what that kimono (?) does to them

[lofty fern]

Oh yeah, Two! We got TWO!

[wraith mantle]

Say wallahi

[scenic dirge]

Can I say that as far as Oda color spreads go, this one is kinda mid?

[ashen perch]

Sugar and Goldenweek are both like the same age

[scenic dirge]

Would that be a hot take?

[ashen perch]

So they're 3

[urban lodge]

Nah it's mid

[ashen perch]

No you're right Evan

[hazy turret]

3???

Also sugar doesn’t count

[ashen perch]

There are, typo

[royal orchid]

it's another luffy legs out with random shit around him

[ashen perch]

Ida's not flat right?

[hazy turret]

I didn’t even notice the typo

Nope

Otohime doesn’t count bruh

[tranquil blade]

Uhh I dont think so

[scenic dirge]

also the water splash background takes up most of the spread so it looks very boring

[lofty fern]

Oh yeah, like Hiyori had that outfit that made her look flat

[ashen perch]

I think some of the Charlotte Family members are for sure

[hazy turret]

Otherwise you have to count all the women in wano, and Oda said he drew them flat chested because of their clothes

[hazy turret]

Yup!!

[royal orchid]

ehhhh?

[ashen perch]

Eh I mean

[tranquil blade]

Ida is just like normal proportions

[royal orchid]

I vote no

[ashen perch]

I'd say count

[scenic dirge]

what kind of goonerbrained convo is this 😭

[rose rune]

yeah, that's what I meant by "still kinda"

[lofty fern]

Sugar I don't know if she should count since her body is purposefully stuck as a kid.

[hazy turret]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/onepiece/images/d/d9/Ida_Helping_Rebuild.png/revision/latest?cb=20250629175622

[rose rune]

ma waife

[hazy turret]

No it doesn’t count WTF???

[royal orchid]

I love Ida she's awesome

[tranquil blade]

This is discussing who is the bigger freak between Oda and toei

[ashen perch]

Okay yeah don't count

[wraith mantle]

Robin looking cool

[ashen perch]

Its definitely Toei, Oda's not even half as bad and I stand by that

[scenic dirge]

Can Sanji hurry tf up btw hooooly

[hazy turret]

It’s more than half

[royal orchid]

oda vs toei on who is the best at being japanese

[ashen perch]

I think what makes Toei particularly bad is that on top of the proportions

[scenic dirge]

"what's happening over there?" uhhh children are dying IDIOT???

[hazy turret]

He’s like at least 65-70%

[ashen perch]

They do that weird jiggle physics

Which is ridiculous

[tranquil blade]

Well now we gotta wait 5 chapters to find out

[scenic dirge]

[ashen perch]

Half

[hazy turret]

His obs haki is only sensitive to eligible women

[lofty fern]

You're not going to see him for a while

[royal orchid]

hehehe I remember this chapter, great introduction to her

[lofty fern]

How many women have gotten hurt so far and Sanji hasn't felt them? We should count.

[royal orchid]

slapping the shit out of harald

[lofty fern]

Robin, Gerd, Ripley...

[ashen perch]

Also about that color spread, it feels like Oda was running out of time and did something really minimalistic

[hazy turret]

Ange?

[scenic dirge]

Also Jinbe cracked me tf up this chapter lol

[lofty fern]

Every other mother...

[ashen perch]

I dont hate it, I think the SHs look good as always

But it's definitely super plain

[lofty fern]

It's just whatever

[scenic dirge]

"Yo sorry to interrupt your ptsd episode Brook but we gotta know if you want us to kill this bitch or not ASAP"

[lofty fern]

Basically

[tranquil blade]

Zoro looks a bit odd but I think it's a perspective thing

[hazy turret]

Robin and Brook’s fits were reeeeaaallllyyyyy good this colorspread

[ashen perch]

Just a plain white background for the most part, I'm thinking Oda was struggling with the deadline

[royal orchid]

he straight up talking about murder

[lofty fern]

Not like Jinbe could do anything anyway. Gunko completely fried this entire group

[urban lodge]

Jimbei is so mad that he got embarrassed by her

[tranquil blade]

Jinbe got sonned

[ashen perch]

Blueffys a lot worse though

He can't be blue

[royal orchid]

this is true, it's what I was thinking

[ashen perch]

That's just not right

Why's he blue

[tranquil blade]

Is Blue Luffy stronger than red Luffy

[hazy turret]

I think that makes it stand out a little

[lofty fern]

Teachnically it's war...all's fair in love and war

[royal orchid]

bump for visualization sake
pretty much no background, very simple composition

[hazy turret]

MAKEASPLASH!!

[royal orchid]

the timelapse was very fast too

[urban lodge]

At least we got radioactive blue Luffy on the jump cover

[tranquil blade]

Zoro looks kinda skinny here

[ashen perch]

Robin

[royal orchid]

https://fixupx.com/i/status/2058446670937878727

Pew (@pewpiece)

Oda's sketching process for this week's OnePiece color spread

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[hazy turret]

Cute elephant

It kinda looks like the fuckassdog sticker

[ashen perch]

Oda makes like everyone skinny but people fixate on Usopp smh

[lofty fern]

80s JEM IMU ~~I really need his actual colors before Oda just decides to go with this ~~

[royal orchid]

there were some cool ideas on the sketching process

[ashen perch]

Sanji's a literal stickman in his suit, but you won't see them posting the comparisons...

[royal orchid]

the elephant arm wrestle one lmao

maybe that's what zunesha was doing back then

[ashen perch]

the Usopp hate agenda blinded them on how Oda's style works smh

[hazy turret]

Because he’s covered. Usopp’s arms are out and they go from muscle to stick

[tranquil blade]

Oda probably didnt go with it cause he's already done an arm wrestling color spread

[graceful grove]

vira foreshadowing

[ashen perch]

In the same double spread, Zoro, Luffy and Sanji all have tiny arms too

[royal orchid]

vira is real fuck wb

[scenic dirge]

This Brook flashback is going to be really good

I like it already

[urban lodge]

Already mogs the Rocks flashback

[hazy turret]

Meh idc that much. Stick arms are just easier to draw

[hazy turret]

I love the atmosphere

[tranquil blade]

Not the Rocks flashback

[graceful grove]

shows how much oda nerfed brook

[ashen perch]

Look at Luffy...

[hazy turret]

The island design itself

[hazy turret]

I’m looking at something else

[urban lodge]

Listen it really hurts me to call it that but this mfer was in like 15/20 chapters

[royal orchid]

what's this convo about anyway

[scenic dirge]

Idk why given it's basically his same personality we've already seen but there's something refreshing about seeing him an an actual live person. Before he was subjected to half a century of torment and isolation

He's got a little extra pep in his step y'know?

Very fun character

[graceful grove]

https://tenor.com/view/modern-family-spray-squirt-annoyed-irritated-gif-4445288

[ashen perch]

Oh I agree, Oda just finds it simpler too I'm sure

[ashen perch]

Oh I was talking about Zoro being so skinny on that color spread

[hazy turret]

Also people talk about Luffy going from buff to skinny all the time, especially in wano

[ashen perch]

And was reminded of how Usopp's the only one that people fixate on when it comes to this

[wet condor]

Me in a year and a half

[tranquil blade]

but Shanks is in that flashback....

[ashen perch]

When its just an artstyle thing

[royal orchid]

lmao wait that's true he's east blue zoro

[scenic dirge]

Zoro's only really buff during his shirtless sections of the arc because he's meant to be. I agree tho, it's probably just an effort thing from Oda lol

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-one-piece-zoro-zoro-zoro-one-piece-one-piece-opening-gif-26350846

[scenic dirge]

It's easier to draw a thinner frame with less detail for the average panel

who gives a shit

[wet condor]

P much

[ashen perch]

Oh true lol

[royal orchid]

even on what seems to be a time crunch he still draws the straw hats dripped out on the color spreads

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-winds-and-waves-pombon-fire-starter-pombon-the-puppy-pokemon-winds-and-waves-starters-gif-15440438340220329900

[scenic dirge]

Everyone looked skinnier pre ts tbf

[royal orchid]

when are they gonna show the evos for the 3 of them

[urban lodge]

Haven't they already?

[ruby cape]

yoooloooo

[ashen perch]

It's crazy that he still manages to give em all unique outfits, we must be at like the 400th color spread at this point

[stone terrace]

She ate man

[urban lodge]

I def don't buy that it's just "military attire", it's an intentional artistic choice

[ruby cape]

candelle’s sword is shamrocks now

[dense rapids]

Persephone and Cerberus

[ruby cape]

that’s why candelle spelled backwards is shamrock

[grand flower]

it looks way too similar

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/dis-belief-surprised-oh-gif-10085527

[royal orchid]

didn't find it

[fallen meteor]

i didnt know we could post the new dudes already

[dense rapids]

Brook is based on Orpheus

Who had to use the harp to make Cerberus sleep

[royal orchid]

who's brook's euridice

[dense rapids]

Gunko

[stone terrace]

His left hand

[royal orchid]

hmm no

[ruby cape]

his flesh

[cunning narwhal]

is transponder snails having a silent mode new info? 😭

[dense rapids]

He’s gonna be the one to free Gunko’s soul

Gunko’s mom was the previous user of Cerberus

[fast pagoda]

If anything I think it's meant to show a contrast

[hoary steppe]

Bb ate 3 DF gonna be real

[fast pagoda]

I really dont think her clothing means she's a knight of god though I think its a bit silly

[hazy turret]

I used to think it was so weird that Brook’s irl nationality was austrian but you could say it was because Mozart was Austrian. But now with Esperia, its pretty much settled that that is the reason. This is Salzburg, where Mozart was born.

[dense rapids]

3 devils

[warm sierra]

porque no los dos

[royal orchid]

bro's having an epiphany right now

[hazy turret]

Que?!

[urban lodge]

I would agree if this was any other arc

Something or someone needs to serve as the bridge to connect Shuri to Imu

[dense rapids]

Gunko is nerfed if Cerberus was her mom’s sword

She was meant to inherit it with Brook’s humming style

[hot cairn]

I fw more than the Rocks one already

[grand flower]

i've seen the theory that she was taken by garling to be a wife

oh no

[dense rapids]

Garling is a kid here I think

If he’s around the old gen age

[urban lodge]

Timeline doesn't work

[grand flower]

taken to be a wife and she's garling's mother

[urban lodge]

Oh maybe

[dense rapids]

I can agree with this

Because I think shamrock got Cerberus from her

[grand flower]

yeah i can see that, that'd be cool tbh

is it the same

[dense rapids]

Candelle = Demeter
Gunko = Persephone

Imu = Hades

[dense rapids]

I mean it looks the same

But most OP swords look similar

[cunning narwhal]

idk what this part of the sword is called but it doesn't connect to the same place on the guard

[dense rapids]

Instead of Hades taking Persephone it’ll be Candelle offering her child to the devil

[trim lily]

doesnt that destroy the equivalence completely then

[dense rapids]

Naw

[grand flower]

maybe shamrock's sword ate the fruit and his mother had it too

grandmother

[dense rapids]

I don’t think it’s a fruit

[hasty sable]

Seems a it premature for a character we know nothing about

[grand flower]

it be like that

[lofty fern]

I think if any family is involved, it would be Manmeyer rather than Figarland

[trim lily]

figarlands would be kinda random yeah

[prisma idol]

Maybe the island is the manmayer's original kingdom

[lofty fern]

That was my thought

[trim lily]

the donquixotes used to rule dressrosa right

or am i making that up

[prisma idol]

Correct

[lofty fern]

Either that, or someone from the Manmayer family wanted Candelle. She's basically the Shakky of this tim period

[prisma idol]

All of the 20 used to rule an island in the sea

Which is a fun thought to try and think of which island was ruled by who

That would be a good sbs question

[trim lily]

i’m hoping this won’t be another situation of a cd wanting a wife

[lofty fern]

I have a theory that Shuri may have been used as a replacement for Candelle after Candelle died or was killed

[prisma idol]

Seems like the prevailing theory rn

[lofty fern]

They do it all the time, and it fits the "Everyone wants her" theme Candelle seems to currently have

[trim lily]

yeah but this’ll have been the third time now

i’m hoping it’ll be more for gunko than her

[lofty fern]

It's pretty normal for CDs

[grand flower]

the fact that she took her child with her is interesting. Maybe Shuri's mother chose the CD

[hasty sable]

somehow Imu ended up taking Shuri for himself

[atomic spindle]

That was my first thought
But isn't Gunko already considered a noble, cds are too racist to accept a non-cd chlld

[urban lodge]

They accepted Harald

And York kinda

[trim lily]

given gunko’s closeness to imu i feel like it’d be more to do with her than candelle

[lofty fern]

Considering we see Shuri later in her young adult years, I think it might be that Candelle died early in her life and Shuri was the "new Candelle" that everyone wanted

[hasty sable]

still feel Imu took Shuri as a Lili surrogate

and he's just kind of weird like that

[lofty fern]

That was more of plan though, it wasn't simply just because

[grand flower]

idk

[atomic spindle]

But Shuri is nowhere as useful as them

[trim lily]

we know whatever incident with the father happens when she’s like 20

[grand flower]

im wondering if Reuven kinda ugly because Candelle is a little shallow and will choose the CD life

maybe she willingly left him to live as a CD

[lofty fern]

Candelle might be evil, though I have to see more of her

[grand flower]

Her introduction does have villain framing

[lofty fern]

She also could do that as a simply self-sacrifice, everyone knows they can't say no to a CD

[urban lodge]

My idea is Candelle was a HK or Blade of God and Imu found out about Shuri and her promising strength and ordered Candelle to bring her to him, but ironically Imu killed her to open up space for a new covenant with her daughter

[trim lily]

i’m also hoping she is or was a knight

[hot cairn]

it does right

[lofty fern]

I don't think she would have any need for subtrefuge then. She can just take the girl back to the holy land, no one there could stop her

[trim lily]

though garlic did sort of the same thing

he waited a year instead of just taking the mother

[grand flower]

i know that

[grand flower]

yeah, showing a part of the villain's body like their hand before moving into showing their full frame is a trope Oda does a lot

heroes often get shown full on

[lofty fern]

Also, Shuri doesn't seem all that much stronger, especially without her DF, I don't see any reason for special treatment for her. In fact, I'd say Candelle is definitely stronger and will stay that way

[lofty fern]

I don't think he even knew

He probably forgot about Magnolia the moment he left the island

He wasn't waiting on anything

[dense rapids]

Descendants of Vander Decken

[ionic palm]

whatever happened regarding Shuri, it was definitely after she left for MJ since Brook mentioned that the last time he saw Shuri before the incident was right before she left for the Holy Land.

which I assume is when Imu morphed her into "Gunko"

and the rest is history

[urban lodge]

I think she had to have met Imu already at that point and had the covenant done, because if that's the last time he saw her she departed after killing Reuven

[lofty fern]

Gunko could have also just been her nickname that stuck to the Manmayers. If she turned out to be like her mother, she would literally be "a military girl"

[lofty fern]

I highly doubt she had the covenant at that time.

Also, you have to go to Imu directly to have that level of covenent

He can't do it remotely

And we know he rarely if ever leaves the holy land

[urban lodge]

It's the most likely because she clearly didn't voluntarily kill her father

[ionic palm]

nah, she almost definitely didnt. Brook said he lost contact with Shuri after she departed Esperia for the Holy Land. So his relationship with her didnt sour until then.

[stone terrace]

I believe candelabrum was kidnapped

[lofty fern]

It could be that the king was controlled and she did what Loki had to do. It would mirror the two flashbacks of the same arc

[urban lodge]

I don't think Oda would make it the exact same

[lofty fern]

Also, there is more than one way to control. It could have been someone with say Doffy's fruit

[dense rapids]

She’s undercover like Garling imo

[lofty fern]

I can see it, especially because these are two flashbacks in the same arc. They are meant to have carrying themes and ideas and plot threads

[ionic palm]

eh, that wouldnt really add up. Based on her original/actual personality, she would likely never willingly just go with the WG after committing an atrocity like patricide.

it'll definitely be identical to Harald's situation but the receiving end is leaning towards the child instead of the parent.

[urban lodge]

I agree, I just think it's more interesting and more likely if their places were swapped, she's the one who was controlled and forced to kill her father

[lofty fern]

Garling wasn't undercover. He came to the island just as a rest stop, found out there was cool resources on the island, said "join us". People said "No" and he said "Bet"

All of you are going to die now

[ionic palm]

I should also point out that we were given a flashback panel of her calling out for her father in grief when Gunko suddenly regained part of her original memories.

[lofty fern]

And then found out about the Davy clan somewhere during all that

[ionic palm]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/onepiece/images/a/a2/Gunko_Past_Appearance.png/revision/latest?cb=20250525150622

[lofty fern]

She could if she had no choice. She's in a tiny kingdom from the West Blue, they have no ability to say no to the WG. If a CD wants her, she has no choice

[ionic palm]

this is the panel I was talking about

[dense rapids]

She’s in attire like knights here

[lofty fern]

I find it more interesting if she has to deal with that choice rather than having everything on Imu. Makes her just more complex

[urban lodge]

Candelle tricked her into making a covenant with Imu imo, and then for whatever reason there was a hunting competition in Esperia which she was forced to participate in and either due to the covenant's influence or Imu directly possessing her she killed Reuven

[lofty fern]

Or like the battle convoy like Brook...good call

[dense rapids]

Yes they’re knights?

[lofty fern]

She's probably a swords woman by that point

[lofty fern]

I don't think they're knights, just soldiers

[dense rapids]

56 years ago

[urban lodge]

Yeah

It lines up so well

[urban lodge]

I understand preferring that, I just think everything is pointing towards her being controlled

[dense rapids]

Idk if it would be before or after the reverie tho

Before makes sense

[lofty fern]

I can't see it being a hunting competition. Oda's not going to do that twice in the same arc, plus the way Brook stated it, I can't see it being the total chaos situation that a hunt would have. Brook wouldn't be able to tell who in that mess killed anyone. Its too much going on

[fast pagoda]

I think the knights of god invaded for some reason

[ionic palm]

I did attempt to lay out some of the missing gaps of the timeline with Gunko and Brook's life together based on the fact that the flashback confirmed Brook and Gunko's age gap being 13 years.

-Gunko was 39 at God Valley, 38 years ago
-was 21 when Rocks invaded the Holy Land and killed an Admiral, 56 years ago
-was 25 when Brook initially died at age 38, 52 years ago which was 4 years after the Rocks incident

so whatever happened, was before she hit 21.

[vale heath]

wtf that's not even close to 3 paces

[fast pagoda]

Maybe they just wanted to enslave the musicians for themselves

[lofty fern]

Cool, how old would you say her age was halted at?

I can see 21

[dense rapids]

56 years ago

[lofty fern]

or earlier

[urban lodge]

21 most likely

[dense rapids]

We’re gonna see what happened 56 years ago form Gunko’s pov

Because it connects with what happened to Esperia

[ionic palm]

considering her appearance at 21 and 39 looks almost completely identical, even to the present day at 77, it had to be nearly exactly when she hit age 21.

[lofty fern]

So you think she wasn't made immortal until the year Rocks came to see Imu?

[dense rapids]

Yea

[ionic palm]

yes

[urban lodge]

I think basically everything happened in that same year

Her killing her father and departing for Mariejois and the downfall of Esperia

[dense rapids]

This moment is important

While rocks did come to announce he’s a Davy and kidnap kings

I think the reason he did it is connected to what happened with Esperia

[ionic palm]

Immortality from the Covenants doesnt start until the Depths Covenant

[dense rapids]

Both from the west blue

And if the theory is sound

Vander and Davy

[lofty fern]

He never announced he was a Davy

[dense rapids]

Davy jones fan

[ionic palm]

so at the beginning, Shuri was given a Shallows which is the beginner stage of which she cant disobey Imu if nearby. Depths is when Immortality starts.

[fast pagoda]

Either way, I'm going to continue my Candelle agenda

Yall not ready for HER

[ionic palm]

based on her appearance, she likely didnt get upgraded until she hit age 21. Unclear why she doesnt age tho since all the other Holy Knights clearly aged.

[lofty fern]

I can see anywhere from 18-21, she seems pretty young even compared to our usual 21 year olds

[fast pagoda]

They made sure to mention several times this chapter that she's very strong

[lofty fern]

Even 17 is a possible

How long was Brook with the Rumbar pirates before his death? I'd say at least 4-5 years

[dense rapids]

Garp also joined the marines 56 years ago

[lofty fern]

That would put him at like 33-34...which would fit with Gunko being about 20-21 last he saw her

[ionic palm]

unconfirmed but it was almost definitely at least 4 years based on the timeline

which to estimate when the Shuri incident occurred, Im estimating it was between 56 to 62 years ago

which would make Brook between the ages of 28 and 34

[urban lodge]

I'm thinking 4 years exactly

From 56 to 52 years ago

[dense rapids]

On thriller bark there was the night hunt

Gunko telling the children they’ll die in flames screaming for their parents

[lofty fern]

Though that's assuming that Brook went immediately from Esperia to becoming a pirate

[dense haven]

yea brook will become a holy knight first

[dense rapids]

A hunting game at Esperia won’t be the same level as god valley

It’ll be faster and more efficient

God Valley was an anomaly

That wasn’t supposed to happen

We’re gonna see what happens when pirates don’t interfere

[formal wagon]

ummm

[fast pagoda]

Candelle will neg diff the captain of the knights though

[dense rapids]

Just like how Gunko’s story is a reverse of Loki’s where the child becomes the knight instead of the parent

[dense rapids]

She’s a mole or something

[fast pagoda]

Nah she's a goat

[urban lodge]

My intuition tells me she's evil and my intuition hasn't missed so far on anything Gunko related...

[formal wagon]

my intuition tells me eris is descended from the royal couple

my intuition tells me luffy dies next chapter

my intuition tells me "hi :3"

[urban lodge]

My intuition tells me Mailbox will make a really awesome Brook and Shuri picmix

[formal wagon]

i've done that already

[fast pagoda]

Do it AGAIN picmix boy

New pfp #Imallin

[dense rapids]

Gunko’s shows glimpses of Shuri’s swordsmanship

It’ll only be unleashed when she gets her memories back

[fast pagoda]

Gunko can replace zoro as the swordsman now

[urban lodge]

Shuri will prove Kuina wrong

[dense rapids]

Gunko is a brawler

Shuri is a swordsman

[fast pagoda]

Candel > Harald

[dense haven]

low bar

[fallen meteor]

oda was on demon time drawing this

[stone terrace]

Not the only thing shes showing

[dense rapids]

Gunko onlt uses swordsmanship after she sees Brook

[fast pagoda]

Candelle >>> "Rocks"

[dense rapids]

Shuri is probably the strongest swordsman on Elbaph

[formal wagon]

ummmmmmmmmm

who the hell is candelle

[stone terrace]

Candelabrum

[hot cairn]

did you like the new chapter mailbox

[stone terrace]

Gunkos mom

[formal wagon]

yeah

i decided to just make up my own now so it was really good

[prisma idol]

No

[formal wagon]

l*ffy had a heart attack offscreen in my version of the chapter

[fallen meteor]

it was weird how Lucci just appeared but

[fast pagoda]

Me

[formal wagon]

okay, hi candelle

[prisma idol]

Also 3 personalities

Hmmm

[dense rapids]

Gunko is at 75%

With her memories she’s 100

[prisma idol]

Deh heh heh heh

[prisma idol]

What

[dense rapids]

She isn’t using her actual fighting style

She’s nerfed

[thick mango]

Haha is gunko mentally nerfed

[dense rapids]

Shuri is gonna fight with a sword

[urban lodge]

I mean, probably lol

[thick mango]

I shoulda put mentally nerfed as my bingo free space

[urban lodge]

Considering it's not even her

[dense rapids]

Mental nerfed Gunko wiped all half of a Yonko crew

Full Memory Shuri is the strongest woman in one piece

And probably the fastest

She’s gonna be the master of Brook’s style

[hot cairn]

https://x.com/tanaka_tanaka03/status/2058674568806670833?s=20 @urban lodge

たなか田中 (@tanaka_tanaka03)

X · May 24, 2026, 10:20 PM

[fast pagoda]

Hi ognib mailbox

[formal wagon]

way too fl*pping many

also also also also

also

[urban lodge]

So beautiful

[thick mango]

Well are you comparing to nerfed kizraru or theoretical optimal kizaru

[fast pagoda]

Good theory

[formal wagon]

another indicator that she's blackbeard relateed

[prisma idol]

77 years old

Old woman

[formal wagon]

gunko might be blackbeard's grandma or aunt or something

[urban lodge]

Shush

[formal wagon]

whos shush

[thick mango]

Cook

[hot cairn]

https://x.com/Veno53/status/2058671538941927756?s=20

Veno (@Veno53)

Oda’s instructions to Animators for Mihawk:

"In action scenes, it doesn't matter if the cape's movement is unnatural. Make it move in an impressive, cool way. Whatever you do, don't stick to the ordinary. I want it to be flashy."

X · May 24, 2026, 10:08 PM

[urban lodge]

Maffey is around that age now...

[urban lodge]

Shuri's evil twin

[formal wagon]

interesting

[prisma idol]

Did i say there was anything wrong?

[thick mango]

Oda w rule of cool

[prisma idol]

I was just saying she was old smh smh penny thinking being old is something bad

[ionic palm]

2 of those are fake thankfully :p

but overpowering unfortunately

[formal wagon]

WHAT IS BLACKBEARDS EVIL TWIN CALLED

[flint quiver]

Manga channel is being an opp but everyone needs to go watch episode 1163 rn 🙏

[formal wagon]

lmk

[flint quiver]

That shit is a masterpiece of an episode

[thick maple]

Shuttt upppppppp

[formal wagon]

weird name

does match with gunko's evil twin shush though

[stiff kiln]

Chapter 1183 isngenuinly confusing, maybe its cuz I. Was readinng it in the. Toilet

[formal wagon]

maybe

[prisma idol]

arisu HATES mailbox

FATS

[urban lodge]

Akainu fans infighting

[fast pagoda]

Rainbowbeard

[thick mango]

It would be kinda funny if the rest of the story Amazon lily keeps getting invaded by random factions

[stiff kiln]

What akainu fanns, i dont see none

[formal wagon]

lurking ass mfer what does baby bottle react mean

[thick mango]

Minks then cross guild then Neo Mads etc

[formal wagon]

me

[urban lodge]

Arisu and Mailbox (Ognib)

[formal wagon]

alright

[stiff kiln]

As i said

I see none

[fallen meteor]

i thought i was hallucinating last night when i saw fats in chat

[urban lodge]

Welcome back fats

[brave bear]

the fuck

[thick maple]

Bluko who's the most beautiful disney princess

[ruby moat]

Massive chapter for usopp let’s go

[brave bear]

they made yo ass helper???

im kidding

[urban lodge]

[fallen meteor]

so true

[prisma idol]

LMFAOOOO

[thick maple]

Fats who's the most beautiful disney princess

[stiff kiln]

Im high lowk

[trim lily]

who up getting low

[formal wagon]

no

[fallen meteor]

omg me

[stiff kiln]

Idk man i dont watch a kids show to fucjing rate the characters

[prisma idol]

Hmmmm.....

[brave bear]

until they make a big back princess i can't answer that

[stiff kiln]

So uh

Whos up past 2 rn

[thick maple]

hmm

I think it's between jasmine and pocahontas

[olive sun]

Catching up with the anime

[ruby moat]

Me it’s about to be 8pm

[stiff kiln]

2 am I meant

[ruby moat]

Oh heavens no that’s so late

[stiff kiln]

I have school tmrw btw

[brave bear]

penny. you're doing great

[olive sun]

Did the manga also mention that Hajrudin stayed behind on Elbaf because Loki nearly escaped?

I remember the Giant Warrior Pirates just saying he was "causing a ruckus" lol

[stiff kiln]

God forbids my sleep schedule is beyond cooked

[brave bear]

you deserve it

[ruby moat]

🤯

[wet condor]

fats lives

[stiff kiln]

Are u secretely 2n AI

[brave bear]

unfortunately

[urban lodge]

Thank you

[ruby moat]

No ofc not

[formal wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-shaky-cam-found-footage-chopper-dr-chooper-gif-3249813292836039258

[stiff kiln]

My love has got no money

[ruby moat]

Baby sharey was giving kid bonnet vibes this chapter

[queen minnow]

How old is gunko

[dense rapids]

77

Probably 21 physically

[brave bear]

average anime mf reply to age questions

[hazy turret]

yup he's back

[queen minnow]

Datum

Dayum

[stiff kiln]

Heavenly restriction: make the character flat but be able to draw her half naked from the bottom

[prisma idol]

😭

[queen minnow]

She should be strong

Stronger than zoro

[brave bear]

you know me 2 well

[stiff kiln]

Too far

[thick maple]

@brave bear I'll tell the IRS on you for vomit reacting

[grand flower]

lola and the other one

[queen minnow]

She is though

[tranquil blade]

the other one

[brave bear]

cc @wispy cedar

[fallen meteor]

wait what is her name

lola and

uhh

[urban lodge]

Chiffon

[formal wagon]

chiffon

chiffon

[tranquil blade]

chiffon

[fallen meteor]

chiffon!

i was thinking lala

[formal wagon]

its over

[formal wagon]

chiffon

[stiff kiln]

If sanji could defeat the dream guy then so could zoro, and believinng hesnstronger then sanji, he logically could defeat her

[formal wagon]

i've been saying

[thick maple]

[dense rapids]

Davy genes

[formal wagon]

whats brooks surname

[dense rapids]

We don’t know

[stiff kiln]

AGENDA LIVESSS FOREVER

[fallen meteor]

smith

[queen minnow]

Sanji was holding back cause she’s a girl

[formal wagon]

thats good i like that

[stiff kiln]

Fym the dream guy aint a girl

[formal wagon]

chiffon

[hazy turret]

chiffon?

[grand flower]

so that's wapol, buggy, usopp, teach, reuven, kuzan and rocks who have some kind of core appearance trait with the others

[fallen meteor]

ohhh chiffon, yes
thanks for the answer

[tranquil blade]

chiffon i think it was

[formal wagon]

np

[dense rapids]

I think that’s the Vander and Davy connection

[fallen meteor]

finally someone answers it

[queen minnow]

Still gunko beat gaban so she no diffs zoro

[dense rapids]

One half is Vander

The other is Davy

[formal wagon]

NO NO not true take it back

[stiff kiln]

I wouldnt say beat

[grand flower]

i can see that

[formal wagon]

take that back right now

[dense rapids]

The Vanders

[formal wagon]

vander? like mueller vande?

[urban lodge]

She probably is stronger than Zoro

[formal wagon]

of the vander school

[queen minnow]

Still bro you have to accept it

[stiff kiln]

Zoro beats base gunko aint no debate

[dense rapids]

Wapol never had a last name reveal

[formal wagon]

whos vander

oh decken

[dense rapids]

That might’ve been the true reason Blackbeard went to drum

He ran Wapol out

[urban lodge]

She's very comfortably above the other knights, except probably Shamrock because Oda is evil

[tranquil blade]

Why does he look like that one BM pirate when he's skinny

The mirror lady

[hazy turret]

Isn’t vander a title anyways

[formal wagon]

i recently decided homing was wapol's father.

[queen minnow]

Yes bro she is she has more experience more combat and haki and zoro hasn’t mastered his haki enough

[dense rapids]

Thought you were about to say perspero

[formal wagon]

no i think its like actually father son as far as we know

i hope that oda finally adresses vander deckens 2-8 soon

this is an issue that has been eating and clawing and stabbing and p[unching at the minds of one piece fans since fishman island

[urban lodge]

With our only reference being Vander Decken IX I don't ever want to see any of the others

[hazy turret]

Sorry I meant the word irl

[formal wagon]

oh

[trim lily]

5 chapter flashback dedicated to each

[queen minnow]

Vander looks strong

Like a holy knight

[formal wagon]

im playing a game with a bunch of characters named vander rn so this is tripping me up

[dapper tree]

Zoro wins easy, her arrows have no effect on zoro's sense of direction

[urban lodge]

Or maybe the effect is so overwhelming she no diffs him

[thick mango]

Gunko without imu is just gonna be some civilian lady

[dapper tree]

Naw

She's not strong enough

[urban lodge]

But either way she's a swordsman too and stronger than him

7 year old Shuri one shots Zoro

[dapper tree]

LOL

7 year old Shuri still loses to 7 year old Kunia

[dense haven]

1 minute old loki one shots all kids in the verse

[dense rapids]

Descendants of the Cursed Pirates

[dense haven]

including the captain kid

[dapper tree]

And BM?

And Oden?

[dense haven]

yes

no exceptions

actually wym oden

[urban lodge]

We haven't seen newborn Big Mom, but 1 minute old Loki seems to be at least relative to 5 year old Big Mom

[dense haven]

what feats does kid oden have

[dapper tree]

He killed a bear just like BM did

[dense haven]

loki killed a giant bear

[urban lodge]

Wano bears are ants compared to Elbaf bears

[dapper tree]

Oda loves killing bears as a feat for children

[urban lodge]

It's so funny

[dapper tree]

Wano bears know ryuo

[ashen rose]

2 minutes out of the womb btw

[urban lodge]

I hope he keeps using bears as hype tools for abnormal children

[olive sun]

Did the anime change the colors on all the animals in the Underworld because the team genuinely didn't realize they were all recycled from Strong World or are they trying to fix Oda being a bit of a hack by making em technically different

[dapper tree]

Sabo, Luffy, and Ace struggled to kill a bear together, they were the worst kids

[urban lodge]

True

And that was a normal ass bear

[thick maple]

!rmd 1h grid

[dense haven]

bearscaling

[dense haven]

https://klipy.com/gifs/nikocado-avocado-griddy

[olive sun]

Luffy killed a bear as a child
A bear destroyed his crew on Sabaody

Poetry

[tranquil blade]

Imu slimed out 100 super bears when he was born

[brave bear]

weak shit tbh

[urban lodge]

Ancient kingdom mecha bears

[olive sun]

Shout-out to Kumacy

Miss that guy

[dapper tree]

I looked at my old messages

Sento also killed bears as a kid

[urban lodge]

What does Oda have against these poor animals

[trim lily]

i hope the bear population is doing alright

[tranquil blade]

He was scared of bears as a kid

[dense haven]

when does one stop being scared of bears

[dapper tree]

Bear scaling is real

Us never

Op characters once they become teenagers

[tranquil blade]

*once they hit double digits

[brave bear]

pocket watching

[dapper tree]

BM and Loki killed elbaf bears, Oden killed wano bears, Sento killed bears somewhere, Luffy, Ace, and Sabo had to team up to kill an east blue bear

[dapper tree]

I just remember talking about bears scaling, alright. Lol

[brave bear]

you probably foolishly said bears would win against a tiger or perhaps a hippo

[dense haven]

holy shit its fats

[random hinge]

hippos are fucking insane no way bears could fight them

[brave bear]

^

[random hinge]

tigers would be closer

hippos it’s no contest

[random hinge]

depends on the bear

[echo lake]

Can someone please explain Kuma's ability

I still don't understand it

[dapper tree]

Also nice seeing ya Fats

Been a min

[brave bear]

kuma would lose to a tiger. any thoughts

[trim lily]

repels anything

[echo lake]

Good explanation bro

[trim lily]

it really is just that

[dapper tree]

Bears would beat tiger. But not a hippo. (Well depends on the type of bear and tiger)

[echo lake]

Anything would lose to a tiger

[brave bear]

it's been 9 months

[echo lake]

I still don't understand

[brave bear]

i basically was pregnant and had a baby

[dapper tree]

Seems just like yesterday

[trim lily]

he can repel people, objects, air, nonphysical things

[brave bear]

foolin

[echo lake]

Is it a boy or girl

[dapper tree]

Congrats on Fats Jr

[trim lily]

he repels air so fast it turns into a blast

[brave bear]

bears never beat a tiger. it's not hollywood

you wouldn't get it

[echo lake]

I can repel people too with my stench

[trim lily]

you might be kuma

[echo lake]

What does repel mean bro

[random hinge]

polar bears are huge i could see them winning

[brave bear]

stop being logical

[fallen meteor]

did you know they are not white

[echo lake]

Imagine a polar bear domi Reversi'd

[dapper tree]

The stats don't lie

[trim lily]

their fur is transluscent or something right

[random hinge]

oh yes sir sorry sir

[brave bear]

this is a fool's argument only fools may take part

[fallen meteor]

yes

[dapper tree]

[trim lily]

silly polar bears they should be invisible then

[fallen meteor]

they are wearing transparent clothes

[random hinge]

i’ve been barbecuing all day i’m allowed a little animal powerscaling

[brave bear]

on GOD

the best fucking thing to do after a bbq

animal powerscale

[trim lily]

whats the strongest animal you barbecued

[fallen meteor]

probably a cow

[random hinge]

yaaaarp

steaks soon

[fallen meteor]

have you see them

[brave bear]

mmm

[frail kindle]

I've seen cows, yes

[fallen meteor]

huge motherfuckers

[hazy turret]

This is the part where someone makes a your mom joke

[frail kindle]

pigs can also get big and will fuck shit up

[urban sluice]

welcome back snod, are those clams?

[random hinge]

oysters

where is your wrench

[frail kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-cardy-butthole-checked-your-butthole-gif-22237405

[brave bear]

me viewing glexanda's profile

[random hinge]

it’s true

[brave bear]

me viewing my own profile

[random hinge]

ai leaving is a new one i missed that

[brave bear]

it took like 7 months but. discord finally did it

go peep red's badges

[random hinge]

oh??

[wraith mantle]

Fatsumo what are your thoughts on Imu’s design

[fallen meteor]

why didnt you do it

[random hinge]

my oh my

[brave bear]

idk im gay

[urban sluice]

I left to focus on art and school and stuff

[random hinge]

new era of opcord

[brave bear]

mhm

[random hinge]

have you been well

[brave bear]

sitting here with this funny skull

not really but it's not a thing for here

[random hinge]

mhm

[dapper tree]

I'll powerlevel animals in 3 hours if the subject still matters.

[wraith mantle]

What’s the new era

[brave bear]

you'd lose

[wraith mantle]

Peak

[random hinge]

owner red-chan

[frail kindle]

monke

[brave bear]

ok is that enough signalling

goodbye forever

[wraith mantle]

Oh I don’t see owner role on him

Weird

[frail kindle]

baby come back

you can blame it all on me

[brave bear]

yeah im the big bucky musscular owner im, the top dog

im so strong

[fallen meteor]

it doesnt show owner on Red for me

[hazy turret]

I don’t believe in turning mothers into the butt of a joke

[brave bear]

i hurl fucking footballs across the universe

[wraith mantle]

You are.. the top g?

[fallen meteor]

so wise

[brave bear]

that'll be it

love ya

[fallen meteor]

later fats

[urban sluice]

return to #manga soon (they've gotten way too rowdy and without your influence), peace

[dense rapids]

Someone said Gunko will uses her arrows with combination with her sword

Crazy she basically already did that here

[frigid gulch]

Linbe

[kind island]

did anyone read new chapter

[frigid gulch]

No

[kind island]

u should! i wont spoil

[prisma yacht]

Yeah it was great : D

[fallen meteor]

everyone here, probably

[keen quiver]

Oh return of the king ?

Nice seeing you around

[royal orchid]

apparently owner role doesn't have slow mode bypass

[prisma yacht]

So like did he comeback only to pass off his legacy?

[brave bear]

yo

[prisma yacht]

Gasp

Oh hey poneglyph

[fallen meteor]

its over for you frons

[prisma yacht]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1384215898109247599.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=DORO

[brave bear]

blud

never forget it's just people

we are all just people

[prisma yacht]

Ye ye I'm just playing with you

[fallen meteor]

we are just joshing

[brave bear]

im gettin joshed rn

[fallen meteor]

joshedsumo

[brave bear]

[prisma yacht]

Guys guys there's this fun list going around

https://grids.fun/t/one-piece-arcs-5ym44?list=one-piece-arcs-4dnpg

[fallen meteor]

i'm ngl i opened this and instantly felt way less into the idea of making it

[royal orchid]

truest thing said on this server

[brave bear]

ai mfs

i made a OP database!1!

[dense haven]

@brave bear did you like silksong

[brave bear]

glorious

but yk

i have a sense of sadness watching everything i love getting so mainstream

[thick mango]

Lots of agreement except alabasta having good pacing

[dense haven]

yea normies ruin everything

[brave bear]

they sure do

[distant vine]

I didnt know who to say

[thick mango]

Also idk I'd say reverie has the best lore probably

[distant vine]

But then how would you get to enjoy OP if we gatekept normies?

[royal orchid]

I had fun with hollow knight, maybe I'll give silksong a try in the future

[fallen meteor]

the eternal media cycle of finding something cool and it getting big

[stone terrace]

Hollow knight just wasnt for me but i watch lore vids

[fallen meteor]

i did this with fear and hungering

[royal orchid]

there's something about turn based games that just isn't for me

[brave bear]

my life 😭

[royal orchid]

so true

[brave bear]

picture playing fortnite and undertale on the day they release

and really liking them

[royal orchid]

Undertale got big really fast though no

[distant vine]

https://tenor.com/view/oden-and-whitebeard-annoyed-one-piece-oden-whitebeard-gif-26333879

[brave bear]

shit was damned to blow up

[royal orchid]

a lot of YouTube attention very early on

[brave bear]

undertale i would never get all gatekeep about

it's just something everyone who plays it likes

universal

[royal orchid]

undertale is the reason I speak english in the first place

[wraith mantle]

Is undertale a new game?

[royal orchid]

2016

[honest garden]

Yeah

[prisma yacht]

I can't decide on so many things

[royal orchid]

or 2015?

[stone terrace]

W

Normalize not making games accessible to everyone so that everyone can grow

[royal orchid]

is that a jab at the deltarune translation thing

[honest garden]

Toby 'Hates Mexico' Fox

[stone terrace]

Idk about that

[honest garden]

That shit was so crazy

[stone terrace]

But next pokemon game should be jp only

[prisma yacht]

Lrll

Marin you took indis color

[fallen meteor]

oh

did i

[prisma yacht]

[fallen meteor]

@distant vine let us compare greens

but this is a nice green

god damn it

[prisma yacht]

Glorp green

[royal orchid]

people got signature colors in this server apparently

[distant vine]

Compare greens?

But its the same

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/nice-argument-green-role-green-role-moss-role-goku-roleist-gif-9300355810495299064

[fallen meteor]

its a good green

Indi can i be your green

[prisma idol]

Green is never good

[distant vine]

Sure

[fallen meteor]

lets go

[prisma idol]

Bad color

[fallen meteor]

gasp

[prisma yacht]

Green is a beautiful color

[prisma idol]

[frail kindle]

you're a bad color

[fallen meteor]

what about dark green

[prisma idol]

Thanks

[prisma idol]

Its alright

[royal orchid]

not green enough

[prisma yacht]

Usopp pirates is the best green

[quiet ice]

Now that I’ve read the chapter idk how I feel

Genuinely do not give a flying fuck about this flashback at this point in time

[frail kindle]

you make me sad

[distant vine]

Larper

[royal orchid]

it'll be important for the climax

[distant vine]

Okay I gotta stop saying that all the time

[royal orchid]

trust

[distant vine]

[hazy turret]

You thought the Imu fight is more interesting?

[hot cairn]

holy shit fats

[thick mango]

it had a chance to be, it was ramping up, all that momentum is dead

[olive sun]

Timing is very unprompted but I care infinitely more about Brook than Imu or the Elbaf kids so this is a huge net positive

[hazy turret]

I suppose

[olive sun]

I feel like this one will only be like 4 chapters

It won't be half the year again lol

[hazy turret]

Penny posted a page from drum island where Luffy was inches away from punching wapol and then it jumped into a flashback

[urban lodge]

#also-manga message

[hazy turret]

There it is

[prisma yacht]

But yeah it's wapol not imu

[hazy turret]

That might be pinworthy idk

[prisma yacht]

[olive sun]

Yeah that's one of the best scenes in the series and the whole flashback builds up the weight behind the punch

It's so cathartic

Gunko has almost nothing to do with what's happening with Imu rn

[urban lodge]

Well I won't pin it myself so...

[thick mango]

i guess the one upside is we can finally resolve gunko out of the story and get on to the other hk

[olive sun]

I definitely agree with the sentiment Oda is just putting it in now because he doesn't really have a choice

Elbaf hasn't had a break from action

[fallen meteor]

gunko is the main hk focus of elbaf for me

[wraith mantle]

Gunko’s arc will probably resolve completely in elbaf if her flashback happens now

[fallen meteor]

she's the only one that for sure wont be an enemy (died or turned) after this arc

the others can lose and get omen warped away

[olive sun]

Gunko sucks but I'm fully expecting her to just become an entirely different character once she's over the brainwashing

[upper rose]

I wonder if we’ll have luffy vs imu or hybrid loki vs imu or hybrid loki + luffy vs imu when the flashback ends

[scenic dirge]

i don't exactly know why but yea, I'm quite excited for and interested in thsi flashback. Maybe it's my latent Brook fanism

[olive sun]

Like Komurasaki on steroids

[hot cairn]

I dont mind that we're getting the flashback now tbh

[fallen meteor]

i like flashbacks on new places because oda cant extend the introduction a lot

at some point it has to end

[wraith mantle]

How you feel about that? Do you like that gunko will just turn 180 and be an entirely different character?

[keen quiver]

Its brook so its officially an s tier flashback

[olive sun]

Not really but also I think she's a boring character as is so there's a potential for something I find more interesting there

[hot cairn]

it's Brook Piece

[hot cairn]

so true

[olive sun]

Maybe it would have worked if we haven't seen like every possible angle of Imu mind controlling someone at this point

But im sick of Reversis

[wraith mantle]

Hm idk if I would call her boring

[keen quiver]

Had this been anyone else i would have complained but getting more brook is never a bad thing

[fallen meteor]

this is an 𝄞 tier flashback

[trim lily]

at least we seem to have found a counter to domi reversi that potentially anyone can use

[twilit lodge]

It's only one chapter of Brook's backstory and I'm already highly interested in it.

[keen quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/officer-police-dancing-flute-meme-gif-16584857

[fallen meteor]

kill

[keen quiver]

How this flashback has me moving

[trim lily]

please let imu forget about domi reversi like saturn did his powers

[fallen meteor]

maybe she's actually princess 𝄞huri

[trim lily]

$huri

[olive sun]

Imu is supposed to be an escalation of a lot of things older villains seeded, like Enels unfounded god complex and treating life and death as a game because he was beyond it, and Doflamingo giving an entire country the koolaid and treating human beings like puppets

I get it

But good lord he's so much more literal with both I find him agonizing lol

Ready for him to keel over

[trim lily]

gonna be waiting a hundred chapters or more for that

[thick mango]

yeah i wouldnt hold my breath for imu to be done any time soon

[olive sun]

This is Blackbeards comic

I have faith

[trim lily]

my main gripe is domi reversi so at least that’s hopefully losing the spotlight soon

[royal orchid]

Mu shall show thee more possession related abilities in the future

[olive sun]

When the fights over and he's crawling back to Mary Geoise to restore his body Usopp will walk up to him and finally slay him with Usopp Rubber Band: Model Nika

[hasty sable]

Imu is a huge nerd